1 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: I relate so deeply to the Kim and Kry situation 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: on a cellular level, and watching this video of them 3 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: cry out for help and fight really took me down 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: to the sticks. Because as adults we push away experiences 5 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: we had as children. It's just our survival mechanism. We 6 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: just we brush it off. We think it didn't happen. 7 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: It's the only thing we knew. We can sometimes just 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: say that we didn't have a great childhood, or an 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: ideal childhood or a functional childhood. But it's just like 10 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: an anecdotal thing. But you really don't remember or even 11 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: know what it felt like, because it's just something you 12 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: can describe. It's not something you can feel now because 13 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: you've pushed it down and because you're not a child. 14 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: And so I watch Kim and Croy in desperation. Imagine 15 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: people who cared so deeply about what other people think. Financially, 16 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: the cars, the stuff, the chanel bags, the show, the show, 17 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: the show. We'll get into that, but that to be 18 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: able to be on camera, awsome hidden camera, or not 19 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: even be in front of your neighbors, just like be 20 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: out there in the open with police at your house 21 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: and someone calling the police and actually talking to the 22 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: police because you feel like they're the only ones who 23 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: can help you. That means you are close to rock bottom. 24 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: And I lived in that house. I know that there's 25 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: been discussion about finances and gambling and foreclosures and mortgages 26 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: and fronting and stunting. It's a fact. And I know 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: that I was the kid in that house. I was 28 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: at the kid in the house where in the neighborhood 29 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: things were smashing, glass was smashing. There was one time 30 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: that my mother took every single framed beautiful glass and 31 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: I don't mean like eight x ten like a giant, 32 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: like giant poster size horse winter circle pictures that my 33 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: stepfather won that were all over the house and smashed 34 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: them all. I remember watching suicide attempts. I remember knife fights. 35 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: I remember my mother being beaten with the phone and 36 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: dragged down the hall. And I remember hearing the word 37 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: see the sea word that my stepfather was calling her 38 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: that because she had been out to Studio fifty four 39 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: till all hours of the night, I wasted and got 40 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: into a car accident. He would lock her out. She 41 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: would punch the glass to get in, bleeding everywhere, and 42 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: I remember he would come in and say everything to 43 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: me about her, like everything she was to me, you know. 44 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: And I remember hiding in the closet. I remember lighting paper. 45 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: I remember lighting fire, like not that I wanted to 46 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: set the house on fire, but I remember lighting paper 47 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: and then blowing it out, lighting paper and then blowing 48 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: it out, like watching the flame get a little bigger. 49 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: I could have set the house on fire. I was 50 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: a child, and I remember eating off of a card table. 51 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: We had a parakeet and we had a cat. We 52 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: ate off of a card table. Fifty three Greenway Terrace 53 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: and Forest Hills. The house cost one hundred thousand dollars. 54 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I kept trying to ask, like how much one hundred 55 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars was, Like, it's one hundred thousand dollars. And 56 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: I remember having different cars, Mercedes, Jaguar, all of it, 57 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and then I remember having none of it. I remember 58 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: my stepfather coming in and asking me to break open 59 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: my piggy bank to pay back bookies, football bookies. I 60 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: remember calling the cops and them coming and us being 61 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: at the hospital and be looking at me, looking myself 62 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: and the ads for like little apartments and begging why 63 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: we can leave them? Why we couldn't find an apartment. 64 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: And I remember, I remember all of it. I remember 65 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: going to that groom's house, my father, my stepfather's groom, 66 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: his horse groom who worked for me, a young guy 67 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: in his twenties, and his mother, Pat Wilson, and she 68 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: and her husband. She her husband used to was a 69 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: raging irish alcoholic. I don't remember. I remember there being 70 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: an abusive household too, and I remember someone in that 71 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: house being violated in that house. Let's just leave it 72 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: at that. These I know that I didn't realize we 73 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: couldn't leave because of money. Money, money, money, money, money, money, money. 74 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Money makes the world go go round. And it's why 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: Kim and Croy probably are staying together in some way. 76 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: They probably love each other, they probably hate each other. 77 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: They probably look at each other and their mirrors of 78 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: each other. They reflect all their mistakes. They're the only 79 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: ones who know how much a fraud it's all been. 80 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: And I bring up the show because that's what The 81 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: Housewives is. It's a place where you have to show 82 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: everybody else how rich you are, how much money you have, 83 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: how many air meaz bags you have, how many letters 84 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you can fit on your body, how many logos you 85 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: can wear. I'm not saying this is a situation with 86 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: p K and Dori. I'm just saying so many people 87 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: have said there have been financial issues. I'm not saying 88 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: that was the situation with Alex and Simon. I'm saying 89 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: that they were going to Kevali and went into foreclosure. 90 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's the situation with Charat, but 91 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: she felt like she had to build some palace to 92 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: prove something to somebody. I'm not saying that Nini is 93 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: or isn't a rich bitch, but she came on the 94 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: show as a woman who was just like a normal 95 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: married woman and felt the need that she had to 96 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: prove that she was rich bitch. It goes on and 97 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: on and on in every single city. Everybody has to 98 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: prove how much money they have, and then you find out, oh, 99 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: they're not really a housewife. They're being helicoptered in to 100 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: prove they're a housewife. Oh they don't really own their house, 101 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: they rent their house. Or oh that person in Salt 102 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: Lake City, jen Shaw who's stealing to look rich with 103 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: logos everywhere, but they're all fake. Oh that's not really 104 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: her house. Every season she rents a new house. First 105 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: season I was on with Chill. They had money. It's 106 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: some money. Bobby rented a yellow Lamborghini to film. Everybody 107 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: has to appear rich and it's a pressure cooker because 108 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: they can't sustain it. They can't sustain it. And I 109 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: know how much money people have that were on the 110 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New York. It wasn't a lot compared 111 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: to what people think. It's not a lot on Beverly Hills. 112 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: It's a lot, but it's not what you think it 113 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: is because everything is designed to show you how rich 114 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: people are. Was Erica that rich? Was Erica that rich? 115 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I knew she was, and I knew her husband owed money. 116 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Everybody has to prove it. That's what 117 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: that show is about. And they don't hire people that 118 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: don't look rich. You don't have to be rich, you 119 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: just have to look rich. They would never hire someone 120 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: in a studio apartment like mine. Now, that's not what 121 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: the brand is, and they would say she doesn't have 122 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: enough money. She doesn't like she has enough money when casting. 123 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: That's what it is, and that, I bet you is 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: a lot of the pressure here because we hear about 125 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: all the bags that him selling, all the money that 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: these two were trying to prove that they had, and 127 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: now we hear about gambling debts. There are children in 128 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: that house, and they probably can't afford to break up, 129 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: and somebody's going to have to just be a grown 130 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: up out of the two of them and take their 131 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: kids and themselves out of that misery. People want to 132 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: blame Kim, people want to blame everyone. They're both in there, 133 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: and their children are going to be the product of 134 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: their unresolved issues. All the issues that their children have 135 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: in the future that they're talking to their therapists about 136 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: are going to be a result of being in that house. 137 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: So somebody has to get out of there. Somebody wants 138 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: to stay in my house, in my guest room, in 139 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: my guest house, no problem. But somebody's got to get 140 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: the hell out of there and find a small, tiny 141 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: place to stay with no heirs and no show and 142 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: no go. And they have to call this fight now 143 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: because this is irresponsible, it's unhealthy, it's bad for their children, 144 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: they're doing damage, it's bad for themselves. Somebody has got 145 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: to call this fight. It's time someone has to get 146 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: out of this house, get a studio apartment that is 147 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars a month and take those kids into 148 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: a calm environment. Living in a nice, big house is 149 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: not worth this, and it's doing damage. It's enough now