Speaker 1: Saying in heaven, man, this album represents a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: I feel like, first of all, as a just be
Speaker 1: he from the West Coast, I wanted.
Speaker 2: To go along with it.
Speaker 1: So sonically it went home, it's it's it's it's Westive.
Speaker 2: You got that bounce to it that we fuck you know,
Speaker 2: and it's in that part.
Speaker 1: And then I just was in terms of flows, I
Speaker 1: went crazy and flows on there the ink pin all
Speaker 1: the elements of what made hip hop sold though from
Speaker 1: the beginning stories that then took me under like you
Speaker 1: know what that did to me?
Speaker 2: You know what you did to me as you know
Speaker 2: what you did to me?
Speaker 1: Rare that song was, so you know, it's a lineage
Speaker 1: that we have and a pedigree of standard for classic
Speaker 1: real West Coast c and so I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: those elements to be present in this album in a
Speaker 1: way that is that could be received.
Speaker 2: In the modern way, but that has its origins and
Speaker 2: its roots and classic West Coast production, classic West Coast
Speaker 2: execution in the elements. And that's what I think I
Speaker 2: put that off. I really feel that.
Speaker 3: One what's the thirdest song on that?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what.
Speaker 3: Then good ad won't use.
Speaker 2: If they twenty four hundred, the rest damn.
Speaker 3: What would they say? Twenty four hundred?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one I called twenty four hundred.
Speaker 4: My leigga said, all up, yo, say that's all. Look,
Speaker 4: that's how you got to put your foot in some
Speaker 4: shit you fell in. Luck that all my shit is odd.
Speaker 1: I feel that way, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really feel
Speaker 1: that way. Lock Club, Like twenty four hundred was one
Speaker 1: of them songs. Thats decoration. I think the album should
Speaker 1: be organized in a way where like first songs.
Speaker 2: In hip hop history have been a thing, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm using that muff for the beast what I really
Speaker 3: was making out here. That first verse nice start up
Speaker 3: if you remember it. Yeah, absolutely give me a little
Speaker 3: art of feeling.
Speaker 1: So the first verse on the album, the first eight bars,
Speaker 1: I say, if you doper than me, you say so,
Speaker 1: faith Folk, I'm wearing all black and his bits. It's
Speaker 1: hard to describe the way I survived but was able
Speaker 1: to rise, Like the past don't exists. I'm already McFly
Speaker 1: you in the deliver you're looking for doc after Math
Speaker 1: and this bitch. I was ruthless and facing death row,
Speaker 1: but I beat there like sentence. I'm lit like I'm
Speaker 1: matching his bitch, Like that's the first thing I'll say.
Speaker 1: And it's like they got the execution table, the electric
Speaker 1: chair go off and I die.
Speaker 2: So it's really the Death Row Records logo.
Speaker 1: I'm rapping as if I'm this nigga sitting in his chair,
Speaker 1: and that's what the first eight bars is doing. But
Speaker 1: Marty McFly was looking for doctor help you go back
Speaker 1: to the past in the future, and I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: already McFly looking for doc on some let's go back
Speaker 1: to Ruthless, Let's go back to let's get.
Speaker 2: That deafro energy, let's get that. So I'm looking for
Speaker 2: doc after math.
Speaker 1: And this bitch I was ruthless facing Death Row and
Speaker 1: I beat it like sentence and now I'm litting. I
Speaker 1: can imagine his bitch because the electric chure went one
Speaker 1: in the top of this matches. Oh you feel me,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's Meedy, it's Meedy. Off the bat
Speaker 1: I'm chirping on their established me was just to say
Speaker 1: we're not fucking around. It's gonna be bars.
Speaker 2: This is dope. Miss.
Speaker 1: The first two songs kind of got that aim, and
Speaker 1: then I start cracking on the government and the criminal
Speaker 1: justice system like the next TU song, so I established
Speaker 1: we dope as fucking this is the mission.
Speaker 2: And then I start tripping.
Speaker 3: You know, I had to get that means I got
Speaker 3: the home in the bag with the beat he little
Speaker 3: slider beat up under that later on eight. That's gonna
Speaker 3: be the official remix. You just need.
Speaker 4: You know. I'm sorry for.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 3: While you know you talk about the criminal justice system, man,
Speaker 3: one of the things I wanted to talk to you about.
Speaker 3: And I know you in town and everybody gonna ask
Speaker 3: you about this, but I'm gona take a different angle.
Speaker 3: You pretty much impacted the whole future hip hop. Like
Speaker 3: you said, the President's like the ship the Young Bull
Speaker 3: is going through now because they pretty much sanctioned to jail. There.
Speaker 3: It's space from a rap song.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: They did, they did, and the and the cover. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting that they said, Okay, this is the
Speaker 1: murder weapon on the album cover. But you can't do
Speaker 1: forensics on a picture. So they never found a murder web.
Speaker 1: And the reality is they never found a murder web.
Speaker 1: But they we thirty something years after this incident, thirty
Speaker 1: two years and people still think the murder weapon was
Speaker 1: on the cover or say that to me, and it's
Speaker 1: just one of them things. How can they establish that
Speaker 1: fact if they never found it and they never did
Speaker 1: forensics right. And the other thing is they chopped my
Speaker 1: song up, so the song is called Still Shooting. Actually
Speaker 1: sampled Ultra Violet Dreams by cy Bricil on their ironically,
Speaker 1: I sampled that and I pushed some Isaac Kay's' side
Speaker 1: of there, you know what I mean, And that's that
Speaker 1: first song on Psychoactive, and it's called Still Shooting. The
Speaker 1: intro is called the Murder, but the media started referring
Speaker 1: to the song as the murder and editing my lyrics
Speaker 1: so that they can make it said what they wanted
Speaker 1: to say. The ap picked that up and instead of
Speaker 1: hip hop journalism kicking in is started to pick that
Speaker 1: part and tell a story as me being one of
Speaker 1: they own. They just picked up the apiece story and
Speaker 1: repeated the sensational lize verson of the story.
Speaker 3: So that was really like a weak shut So you
Speaker 3: was doing it like from the beginning because the court
Speaker 3: of public opinion, the more fucker it is. Man.
Speaker 1: And we were at a time in the country where
Speaker 1: you know, we got Mike Tyson with the right case
Speaker 1: that they was trying to get him for. He got
Speaker 1: oj going to trial. It just was a time we
Speaker 1: had just had the riots, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the officers went to trial, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: all of that thing do Rodney King shit. So this
Speaker 1: is a build up. And then Iced Tea with the
Speaker 1: time Warner shit. So we just in a time where
Speaker 1: hip hop was under attack from from the government. Really,
Speaker 1: it's always been to government, even if it wasn't hip hop.
Speaker 1: It's just always been there trying to tear us.
Speaker 2: Up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But in this specific instance, that was the environmental atmosphere
Speaker 1: in the culture, and they was just trying to smack shit.
Speaker 1: And I ended up being somebody that they did that too.
Speaker 4: Critical times man, right and there. Yeah, yeah, all them situations. Uh,
Speaker 4: they would definitely try to hold some ship to kiss
Speaker 4: you then because niggas was depressed and didn't give a
Speaker 4: fuck around then. So it was all kinds of shipped
Speaker 4: that mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It was real cliche that goes what going on? You
Speaker 3: was Opadolph you got the first, so he was one
Speaker 3: of the first ones I had to get the parental
Speaker 3: the scrashle renal.
Speaker 4: That that little sticker on my out. I was the
Speaker 4: first nigga that double sticker. Uh, even though they put
Speaker 4: the parental sticker on there, and they put a sticker
Speaker 4: on there that said whatever I was talking about.
Speaker 2: Was my view and then not the views of Sony music.
Speaker 5: They put a disclaimer on your heir. You a last sidelight.
Speaker 5: You know what was crazy. Niggas was getting banned at
Speaker 5: that time. Ship what was crazy would get the radio
Speaker 5: play videos. Niggas were steamrolling over seeds and ship, so
Speaker 5: they was trying to shut us down and Ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's part of the ear that sending off though, man,
Speaker 3: because I remember, like, because that's when you start getting
Speaker 3: the other people from other cities, Like you had the
Speaker 3: ghettle boys coming up too, and you had cats like
Speaker 3: you know a little bit later on gainsing it. I
Speaker 3: remember when somebody had listened to this, somebody killed somebody
Speaker 3: listening to this niggas music, and stuff happened. They was
Speaker 3: really trying to stick it to people in hip hop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the easy way out.
Speaker 2: Ship. Yeah, that was that was that was fucking on.
Speaker 4: Motherfucker, go to court, you know, little kids and ship
Speaker 4: and something more fucker in Ayowa, some crazy shit. They
Speaker 4: have some stupid shit and gone ship Nigga out. I
Speaker 4: was listening to eight and the Nigga eight said niggas
Speaker 4: hit the back fence and shooting nigga and Woolf de
Speaker 4: Wolf and yeah, yeah, it's so when you get this,
Speaker 4: goar Face said nigga, go do a nigga like that.
Speaker 4: So nigga, that was dumb as fuck. But they actually
Speaker 4: were starting to get that shit crack that of his
Speaker 4: man in jail. But but but that's the's narrative right
Speaker 4: now though, that's crazy as fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what I.
Speaker 1: Said, I remember like if we go back to n
Speaker 1: w A getting that letter from the FBI and UH
Speaker 1: for fuck the police, and then they start tripping on
Speaker 1: Luke so he did a band in the USA, Tipper Gore,
Speaker 1: I think, and that's where the parental advice we.
Speaker 2: Sticking here from. And then we end up with uh.
Speaker 2: After that, they tripped on the.
Speaker 1: Ghetto boys and we ended up getting me saying be
Speaker 1: stopped from that and then y'all got tripped off and
Speaker 1: then it just kept rolling. It just kept rolling, and
Speaker 1: it was lit though. That was the rebellious time for
Speaker 1: hip hop music.
Speaker 2: Where we had you had ex Clan and that ship
Speaker 2: was slapping. It's still slapping.
Speaker 1: My brother today was tripped, and then you had public
Speaker 1: Enemies tripping and that boy was pushing the line.
Speaker 2: Seems was pushing the line. It was man, it was music.
Speaker 2: And now it's just I feel like I would really
Speaker 2: like us to see a return to that well sort
Speaker 2: youngster can start doing it, that'd be beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's starting to get there, it is.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a rebellion going on right now
Speaker 2: where people want that classic shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just people just what's been going on
Speaker 4: basically as far as hip hop conserve, you been a
Speaker 4: negative light shawl on hip hop for the last couple
Speaker 4: of years. A lot of dudes getting killed and't a
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of a lot of scenarios that
Speaker 4: basically don't even fit on criterion. But it started shining
Speaker 4: a heavy negative light. So I know, you know, we
Speaker 4: put out our shit, you know, to talk about where
Speaker 4: we came from and and uh how the impressions of
Speaker 4: growing up in these in these neighborhoods made us put
Speaker 4: these records together. But you know, I think just the
Speaker 4: blatant violence in the hip hop. You know that that
Speaker 4: came from what we're hearing today. You give me motherfuckers
Speaker 4: is like Nigga they described and the murders. Tall Marble
Speaker 4: did the hit Nigga and how we did the hit
Speaker 4: when it hit went down, and a.
Speaker 2: Lot of hip hop has become that because of the youth.
Speaker 4: And not to say we wasn't crazy when we was young,
Speaker 4: you know, and my CMW music to drive by days.
Speaker 4: I was nineteen twenty, you know, Nigga telling me shit, Bigga,
Speaker 4: I'm talking mom, Nigga, we coming through and Nigga the
Speaker 4: hood that took asunder. Niggas struggling, so we about to
Speaker 4: do this, that and the other growing up there. But
Speaker 4: it was never like a It was never like a.
Speaker 2: Man to some she had I'm gonna tell you any
Speaker 2: caucinary tales. Though they got an era where he.
Speaker 1: Had cautionary tales, Cube bad cautioninary tales. It was cautionary tales.
Speaker 1: Slick Rick had cautionary tales. Be crazy a story, but
Speaker 1: you like, damn the moral of that story. There was
Speaker 1: a moral to this right straight up. Minutes has a
Speaker 1: it's a full circle. It has a beginning of middle
Speaker 1: and the end. There's a conclusion to that experience. You said,
Speaker 1: owt Ice Cuban mac ten, there's a conclusion to that shit.
Speaker 2: And said, we did. We stopped at the conclusion.
Speaker 1: It's like ending Scarface where this nigga just up and
Speaker 1: got all the coke right there.
Speaker 2: It's like, nah fout.
Speaker 1: Ten minutes later in the movie, this nigga gets shot
Speaker 1: fifty thousand of pops and dies with a face of
Speaker 1: little cocaine.
Speaker 2: That's how this ends.
Speaker 1: And I feel like the ogs back then was doing that.
Speaker 1: And then somewhere along the lines, the cautionary tales started
Speaker 1: getting left out.
Speaker 3: Boy, you know what started happening. Man, casts really started
Speaker 3: detailing what they are really going on. They really started
Speaker 3: putting lyrics like we just did this and were smoking
Speaker 3: on this MC Dogo peck. It really just started tricking, you.
Speaker 2: Know, exageration or accident too.
Speaker 1: Though the niggas it said that was real and this
Speaker 1: shit that was w w F. It's always been ship
Speaker 1: that was real. That shit that was w w ee
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right, it always was but
Speaker 1: and it was a kamakzi niggas then too. It was
Speaker 1: niggas going kama kaze back then to It's just I
Speaker 1: think it's worse now because the generation I was supposed
Speaker 1: to give the game, we kind of you saw people
Speaker 1: join the idiotcy or the immaturity is the better way?
Speaker 3: Sure, boy, you know what's crazy? Have you ever seen
Speaker 3: the movie Idiocracy? Idiocracy is this movie that was about
Speaker 3: Mike Judge. You've ever seen it. It was by Mike Judge,
Speaker 3: the cat that made me some but ed. And this
Speaker 3: movie maybe came out like fifteen twenty years ago, probably
Speaker 3: even more, but it shows the world. You know Netflix,
Speaker 3: Look that's called over the top TV television. You know,
Speaker 3: everything's on top of each other. The TVs was like
Speaker 3: that and the people this dude got frozen and went
Speaker 3: to the future, woke up like one hundred years later,
Speaker 3: and the America was like in some kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Terry Crews was the present and Eve them tripping and
Speaker 3: the wasn't those plants grow because these dumb motherfuckers was
Speaker 3: watering the grass with gatorading. Gatorade was like the drinking.
Speaker 3: The people was wearing crocs in the movie You Go,
Speaker 3: Double red shoes. People drinking. Now the fox, the drid
Speaker 3: motherfuckers was wearing crocs on there and people was just stupid.
Speaker 3: But it was just like the motherfuckers today. And I said, man,
Speaker 3: how did this motherfucker gets that twenty years ago? Motherfuckers hopey,
Speaker 3: because you know what the top shit is. You know,
Speaker 3: we have these dope discussions. You'll get a few motherfuckers
Speaker 3: that they checked this out. But if it's some niggas
Speaker 3: talking about some bullshit around the corner, cia you little
Speaker 3: hole knowing we dont came in the air to wear
Speaker 3: a bunch of goon on men gossip like little hoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a true statement. That's a true statement.
Speaker 1: I think this carre Hollywood has penetrated the depths of
Speaker 1: hip hopping the way that really is was never allowable,
Speaker 1: and we've allow.
Speaker 2: People to make music that we never really would allow.
Speaker 1: Niggas used to get beat up for if he was
Speaker 1: too close similar to somebody else, the niggas was going
Speaker 1: to want to fight about that. If you made a
Speaker 1: saw too similar to a nigga sol or he was
Speaker 1: too similar to a nigga name, or you tried to
Speaker 1: do something that wasn't hip hop. You know, kr rs
Speaker 1: want beat upp and don and put random niggas abo
Speaker 1: up the stage.
Speaker 2: Like nigga you and welcome it.
Speaker 1: The niggas to be the number one best rivers alive
Speaker 1: right now meaning the type shit this is Millie Vanilli
Speaker 1: would have got away with him right.
Speaker 2: Now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Niggas would have been to make it excuse his own
Speaker 1: He made some really good songs.
Speaker 4: They Hollywood didn't penetrate. Yep, Hollywood penetrated the streets. So
Speaker 4: aspect of.
Speaker 2: It's hard for niggas to be old j anymore.
Speaker 4: Right, You got niggas school or in our age in
Speaker 4: line of who feel like being famous and popularity. It's
Speaker 4: hard than the cold of being just authentic. You're getting me,
Speaker 4: especially if you claim to be one of those dudes.
Speaker 4: It seems like that narrative has left us, like niggas
Speaker 4: have forgotten, like those colds and get me hush and
Speaker 4: don't talk too much, not flossy and a flashy and flamboyant,
Speaker 4: and niggas didn't want to be seen. You can get
Speaker 4: letter and you need said that. It seems like shit,
Speaker 4: you got more uh niggas in the older age group
Speaker 4: who want more celebrity and fame than trying to just
Speaker 4: keep the authenticity of being a nigga who's supposed to
Speaker 4: be a real nigga? Right, how is that look? Is
Speaker 4: that fouled apart? You get me cause niggas, I don't know,
Speaker 4: niggas don't like real niggas today. You know, is it
Speaker 4: fouled the part to be a real nigga? Is is
Speaker 4: it looked upon by you saying that you were from
Speaker 4: the streets and you you know, a bide by a
Speaker 4: certain cold Do they foul the part that shit? Today?
Speaker 3: I don't think if people frowned off the luggers, don't
Speaker 3: think they get them. I don't think they care. Like
Speaker 3: all that stuff. I think, man is out the window.
Speaker 3: Like when you start talking about snitch, how many people
Speaker 3: you don't seen snitch? And they come right back home
Speaker 3: and they back on the streets and doing what they do.
Speaker 3: They're going about their business, and it's like whenever you
Speaker 3: get That's why I always I think, yeah, the scene
Speaker 3: always be quick to tell people. I don't gain but right, right,
Speaker 3: but you got a lot of people who ain't from
Speaker 3: that world. That's comment and that's what people well, you
Speaker 3: got a bunch of people that don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 4: They up there calling.
Speaker 3: People snitches who ain't really snitches and they're doing this.
Speaker 3: So you got a bunch of square people trying to
Speaker 3: play in the h rings that they don't know nothing
Speaker 3: to bo and that.
Speaker 1: Was like they can't be checked because they behind the
Speaker 1: computer strands.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean by.
Speaker 1: The WWF and the WWE commentary because just hip hop
Speaker 1: transition from one to the other, just like the WWF
Speaker 1: be came the w w E.
Speaker 2: We saw that.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things culturally, crazy and gangster
Speaker 1: used to be separated.
Speaker 2: And you got a crazy nigga, that crazy nigga was
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they get dealt with that wasn't allowed to exist,
Speaker 1: and then you gotta you gotta against the nigga that
Speaker 1: wouldn't want that around. Now the crazy niggas is the
Speaker 1: niggas with the jewels, the crazy. When the crazier you are,
Speaker 1: the more they celebrate that. And it's like it wasn't
Speaker 1: ever the niggas that got to run nothing or call
Speaker 1: and make decisions. They got euthanized. And so it's different
Speaker 1: Nowaday and't like that no more. And there's an argument
Speaker 1: that there's superior ways. Now we got more conflict resolution,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, to me, I
Speaker 2: think we.
Speaker 1: Might have failed the generation the fathers were under attack.
Speaker 1: The reason we failed them is because we was getting
Speaker 1: our ass whooped, among the other things, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people was locked away who could have
Speaker 1: had voices. A lot of us ended up being in
Speaker 1: positions if to be servants more so than to be masters,
Speaker 1: meaning that we're in control of the masters of our
Speaker 1: own destinies. So we didn't end up with the power
Speaker 1: structures that we should have by now where to where
Speaker 1: the money that was generated by melanative people within this
Speaker 1: motherfucker industry was put in a way where the control
Speaker 1: and the power and the ability to dictate what occurred
Speaker 1: remained with those of us who were the taste makers
Speaker 1: and the curators. So you end up with people who
Speaker 1: don't really give a fuck about the culture making decisions
Speaker 1: that are impactful to the culture. And now it's about
Speaker 1: pleasing this algorithm more than it's about pleasing the statutes
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do and what we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to do, the tenets of this sacrifice and replaced by
Speaker 1: including some clicks and that's really what.
Speaker 4: It is still as a podcast or just as a
Speaker 4: as a person deals with you know, the podcast world
Speaker 4: and creating content and all that. Why do you think Snitchell.
Speaker 2: Was made.
Speaker 4: Like as like the content like we gottake because that
Speaker 4: was some shit, like even if I don't know, it
Speaker 4: was like was it was like a higgen thing like
Speaker 4: niggas didn't talk about it wasn't spoken with the court
Speaker 4: and somebody got on the stand whatever whatever, or it
Speaker 4: wasn't like all these niggas over here gonna talk about it,
Speaker 4: then we're gonna go tell the hood over there. Then
Speaker 4: we gonna tell the hood over there, then we're gonna
Speaker 4: go tell it. It was like that was like some under
Speaker 4: the tables qualified Why is it? Why is it a rise? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see it was a time that she had
Speaker 3: to be qualified to say somebody was a snitch. You
Speaker 3: just couldn't go because you know, it's some snitch to
Speaker 3: the bush retal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of them, you know, it's a
Speaker 2: lot of them. It's it's real. It's levels to that ship.
Speaker 1: If you you have to be able to present evidences
Speaker 1: in proof, it's the same way, and it's if you're
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna bring a charge against your brother.
Speaker 1: It's the same way in the round table discussions within
Speaker 1: the hood. We still want neighborhood. We was born from
Speaker 1: y'all from Condon. Critics gave birth to my neighborhood. And
Speaker 1: in la seventies early eighties, one was the ones who
Speaker 1: came out there, we are ice culled my summer vacation
Speaker 1: with the result of that migration that happened, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But you have understanding of how we're
Speaker 1: supposed to conduct ourselves. Are out we not and conduct ourselves.
Speaker 1: And so there's ways that you're supposed to go about
Speaker 1: causing a roundtable discussion, and that's supposed to happen amongst
Speaker 1: the people who are directly impacted by that.
Speaker 2: And they got to say, if that person coming from something.
Speaker 1: That clothed, then that's the responsibility of his cloth to
Speaker 1: handle their business. Everybody want everybody to take their phase.
Speaker 1: And now you got the gladiator with to me, it's
Speaker 1: the Colosseum. We are wrong and Caesar is sitting in
Speaker 1: their chairs as Caesar is Mark Zuckerberg, Caesar is the
Speaker 1: niggat it on Spotify.
Speaker 2: Caesar Is and they got.
Speaker 1: These arenas caesar Is, some of these platforms that don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck if we live or die. Some of these,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a locker on on. They want to
Speaker 1: exploit the culture, and they thumbs up or thumbs down.
Speaker 2: Do you kill him or do you not kill him?
Speaker 2: They going blood. They want deafinite destruct them. That's what
Speaker 2: they're paying the seat, and so we haven't all accepted it,
Speaker 2: but we could watch them. We could watch the results
Speaker 2: of that. They want to build you up. Put you
Speaker 2: in the colissene, release a lion on you, watch you
Speaker 2: fight that lion to the dead, see you die, deify you.
Speaker 2: Put you on a T shirt, put you on the
Speaker 2: launch pale, Put you on a motherfucker sticker, Put you
Speaker 2: in a video game.
Speaker 1: Bit your music everywhere and pay your mama zero point
Speaker 1: zero five per stream, fifteen fifteen hundred streets to equal
Speaker 1: one sale.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They want to do us
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's bigger than just even what's going on
Speaker 1: with the artists themselves.
Speaker 2: It's a machine.
Speaker 1: The entire coliseum and the people getting thrown out there,
Speaker 1: motherfuckers who are trying to change their life. So they
Speaker 1: willing to fight the lion. They willing to try and
Speaker 1: do that. But you as a result of that, you
Speaker 1: pop smoke, you're pnb rock. You end up have and
Speaker 1: then you end up being these kids out here that
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 4: The niggas be feeling this day. Responsibility to let you
Speaker 4: know who snicked or not? Is that the responsibility or
Speaker 4: the real nigga today?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I think I think it's the I think everybody got
Speaker 1: to decide what is the best thing for their individual experience.
Speaker 1: I think it's a decision to be made. Dude, Am
Speaker 1: I handling my business in a way that is going
Speaker 1: in the direction that is most beneficial for my family?
Speaker 1: And it's and am I in somebody's business? And I
Speaker 1: don't have no business in their business because this ain't
Speaker 1: my business. There's rules that apply to being in somebody's business,
Speaker 1: just like his rules to apply. If this man did
Speaker 1: do some bits ass it, if he did do that,
Speaker 1: who's responsible for that? Because that's the first thing you
Speaker 1: want to know, because you can't do something to everybody.
Speaker 1: It's consequently with that, so it's like you gotta find
Speaker 1: out what's what And then the good begs the question
Speaker 1: why even this person bitess.
Speaker 3: Lord you see earlier that should be the ring that
Speaker 3: was impacted and his people was responsibility. They gotta have
Speaker 3: nothing to do with you. I was always told you
Speaker 3: just you don't have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's going to service the coliseum. The coliseum
Speaker 1: want to eat them alive and they want them to
Speaker 1: need each other at large.
Speaker 5: Scuse lets meet those clicks, man, Yeah, as long as
Speaker 5: it's them.
Speaker 4: It just puzzles me.
Speaker 2: For a due tool.
Speaker 4: Consider themselves to be a certain way of life, or
Speaker 4: I came from that or that walk or that cold.
Speaker 4: It just puzzles me.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted the.
Speaker 4: Face you get lead the codes of the ship. I elearged,
Speaker 4: it's like forgotten about today because you got dual truth life.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's my business to let you know that
Speaker 4: so and so toll on a nigga twenty years ago,
Speaker 4: or so and so toll on a nigga fifteen years ago,
Speaker 4: or it's my it's my business to let you know that.
Speaker 4: It just puzzles me because I thought that being from
Speaker 4: and you know, it could be wrong because of the
Speaker 4: time and the era of what today is, because of
Speaker 4: what all this shit is you're getting lights came reaction.
Speaker 4: Niggas want to get paid, you're getting the authenticity of being.
Speaker 2: From the streets has been forgotten.
Speaker 4: Becausese.
Speaker 2: I didn't make a check, nigga, you feel me? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't know, Huger.
Speaker 4: Now your followers and get clicks and views, and it
Speaker 4: just puzzles me because there's certain things that you're supposed
Speaker 4: to be able to hold true, especially for a man.
Speaker 4: I just think like niggas just forgotten about that code
Speaker 4: of of what is and what is you know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you fall into that lifestyle of having to create content,
Speaker 4: you get right. I told you that. That ship puzzles me, Like,
Speaker 4: what do you mean ate some content? Nigga? We just
Speaker 4: we just sit up and talk to the homeies in it,
Speaker 4: try to have just conversations about ship. We don't sit
Speaker 4: up and getting a circle on the round table before
Speaker 4: the shows Dart and Gold. So we're gonna come up
Speaker 4: with today. This is hit me, Like creating kind of that,
Speaker 4: like we don't like that ship puzzles me. Man, If.
Speaker 2: Vibing vibing is different and creating content vibing and capturing moments,
Speaker 2: this is a superior thing. And I think that there
Speaker 2: was more authenticity and the culture.
Speaker 1: Back when we were doing that, we were just catching
Speaker 1: VODs and we were spitting about what we was really
Speaker 1: dealing with.
Speaker 2: It's just the longer games.
Speaker 1: Now, it's all the just a reality TV show and
Speaker 1: a person get enough popularity to make them a couple bucks.
Speaker 1: It's a vocational opportunity now to tear somebody down to
Speaker 1: be in somebody else's business. And it just was the
Speaker 1: time and life where I wasn't a permissible then, and
Speaker 1: do everybody everybody comes used to come. And this is
Speaker 1: a problem because motherfuckers is faking where they're from. They
Speaker 1: faking their neighborhoods, They faking that they come from represent
Speaker 1: something like I got a faunidly father from guard Block.
Speaker 1: Here am my baby boys. So we got three generations
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood in this world hoods, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You got motherfuckers that can't tell you a motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Two years older than them from their neighborhood. Huyo, big home.
Speaker 1: You got a twenty five year old nigga telling them
Speaker 1: a point there the nigga is twenty eight, Like, how.
Speaker 2: Long the fuck did y'all exist? Who the fuck is
Speaker 2: it be where you go? Our state.
Speaker 1: We can't even find out where these niggas is from
Speaker 1: because they're not from nothing, and so who can teach
Speaker 1: nothing to nothing?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's just a bunch of
Speaker 2: fake ays, bullshit.
Speaker 1: Are some Hollywood shit, and I mean that's okay, but
Speaker 1: they get carried away with it.
Speaker 2: Some of them. They getting themselves clapped up and chilled
Speaker 2: over the mics. It clicks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it was a lot of shit I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk to you about. So I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: to breathe through it a little bit when you was
Speaker 3: locked up, and then I'm gonna get off the block.
Speaker 3: The up fingers they were. He was releasing albums and sit.
Speaker 2: On the sad. Yeah, I was playing over a phone.
Speaker 2: I don't build board charts.
Speaker 3: Don't build board charts, and I saw that shit that
Speaker 3: tripped me. Y'all said, man, this niggas just walking around
Speaker 3: the streets free. You can't throw them this man or
Speaker 3: NIEE stuff on your jail.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, niggas could and well, the fucking
Speaker 2: see these away.
Speaker 3: I know what is in jail doing it? Man? What
Speaker 3: possession to think that you was gonna be able to
Speaker 3: get away with that stuff. But you didn't get away
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: I was possessed by I lived that shit the same
Speaker 1: way that we're talking about, the same way that kid
Speaker 1: that was in the projects, and I used to crawl
Speaker 1: up my window and go down the stairs and be
Speaker 1: down there with their armies. You know that kid that
Speaker 1: just wanted the hommy to pop his trunk on the
Speaker 1: sixth floor. I remember Tiny form Pj's used to come
Speaker 1: out there to the hood and the donkey call.
Speaker 2: For Pj's, all them niggas wind up for the Grape Street.
Speaker 1: The niggas used to be out there and set and
Speaker 1: we used to fuck with them niggas. So I remember
Speaker 1: niggas had popped the trunk, and you know, the hommies
Speaker 1: from the block. Everybody would be outside and they'd be
Speaker 1: slapping Parliament and nigga just to catch a vibe, and
Speaker 1: the armies is just spitting. It's how the niggas that
Speaker 1: could spit, and it would just be, you know, we
Speaker 1: got the wood raps when you really.
Speaker 2: From the streets, and you really from some shit like.
Speaker 1: We got wood raps and go a nigga then rebroke
Speaker 1: the Gilligan's Eyeland thing, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: Nigga and we got all that type of shit and
Speaker 1: when you have history. So I was vibe and I
Speaker 1: feel like I I lived hip hop. Hip Hop was
Speaker 1: a part of the fabric. It was an attribute of
Speaker 1: my personality and just a part of the fabric of
Speaker 1: who I am as a human being.
Speaker 2: It's being in.
Speaker 1: The house with from Midnight Star, Atlantic Star with you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, playing rock Days, the message rappers delight.
Speaker 2: I lived it.
Speaker 1: Here comes Roun dmc, Here comes LLL, Here comes rock Camp,
Speaker 1: We Toddy T Nigga Battle Ram Nigga, Here comes six
Speaker 1: in the morning, There comes colors like I remember the
Speaker 1: stages of that shit.
Speaker 2: And it's just in my dna.
Speaker 1: So if I couldn't have made them songs, I would
Speaker 1: have wrote them anyway, because that's what that's what I'll do.
Speaker 1: That's like oxygen in me. So I was writing songs
Speaker 1: and then opportunities to record. The motherfuckers can't presenting themselves,
Speaker 1: you know. One of them was because I was dope.
Speaker 1: He was a fan of I was too dope to
Speaker 1: not be doing my thing. Motherfuckers helped me do what
Speaker 1: I needed to do it, so like it was a
Speaker 1: fighting against the government. They follow the son of Sam Lous,
Speaker 1: who don't even beat that. It got struck down by
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: That was big mad. There's no rule.
Speaker 1: There's no rule against possession of possession, possessing itself all
Speaker 1: in heighteen ninety nine, two thousands. There's no rule against
Speaker 1: me having Literally the California Coda Record Regulations hasn't entered
Speaker 1: that rule into this book yet. So I'm reading the
Speaker 1: rules and I could see what's not against the rules too.
Speaker 1: I'm not just looking at what is in the rule book.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at what isn't so okay. If I get
Speaker 1: this that reporter in here, they don't got a rule
Speaker 1: against that.
Speaker 2: So if they find to sit here, they're like, they
Speaker 2: can't write me up for anohing. They can't even fuck
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: That recording all of it.
Speaker 2: I had ally coming to sit in that bitch.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah regularly, yeah said up in the sale busting
Speaker 1: your ship. Yeah, man, For a long time I used
Speaker 1: to get shipped, you know, buy some key boards and
Speaker 1: get them in through the music program. Put a bunch
Speaker 1: of shit that I wanted to get a package delivered
Speaker 1: and had a motherfucker go bring it to that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I used to meet them up.
Speaker 2: Fucker in the middle of nowhere in the wilderness drop
Speaker 2: off a package.
Speaker 3: For you know, that's some cold last shit. I just
Speaker 3: picture you, Nigga and this silvers up there bus. I'm
Speaker 3: like a motherfucker hold up on when you watched for
Speaker 3: the guards to come and shit, you acquired this noise
Speaker 3: that I'm bucking prop this each.
Speaker 1: Thing that Yeah, Catty was doing it between cal Ty
Speaker 1: and trying to get saws done.
Speaker 2: I remember in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: I was doing my thing on Selina's Valley a or
Speaker 1: and uh, I got all my recording equipment on Friday,
Speaker 1: Like I went to breakfast and need these search to sell.
Speaker 1: When I come back to sales, search was wasn't drop up,
Speaker 1: So I got the thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Lock the dog Friday night, I'm all night.
Speaker 2: Portraying counts, just laying, laying, laying, laying, laying.
Speaker 1: They get all night, wake up, do it Saturday as
Speaker 1: soon as go about my regular day on Saturday. Soon
Speaker 1: as they locked that bar at night, I'm recording all
Speaker 1: night between counts.
Speaker 2: Get some sleep, wake up, give it back to him
Speaker 2: on Sunday, ball and.
Speaker 1: I get back to the streets and then it's up,
Speaker 1: you know. We go from there and ended up crashing
Speaker 1: out like so, and then from Friday to Sunday recorded
Speaker 1: the entire Unforgiving album, the entire Vengeance is Mind album,
Speaker 1: and portion of the Initiation album in three days. I
Speaker 1: recorded all that, got it done and got it out
Speaker 1: and went right outside, had gotten the wrecked.
Speaker 2: The niggas just out there fighting like a motherfuckers. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like that was the kind of shit I
Speaker 1: went through, and then them songs ended up being on
Speaker 1: Forgiving and getting the Billboard charts. Some of the shit
Speaker 1: I gave Seaball we number three on the charts, behind me,
Speaker 1: Rod Carey and Bride. Mgnight for Daily Game was my song. Actually,
Speaker 1: me and Colez was rappling.
Speaker 2: He was in it.
Speaker 1: He was in the tank. So I went in this
Speaker 1: tank and I'm banging on the door of spiting that song.
Speaker 1: He spit some songs, but when I spit that of
Speaker 1: a game, he was like, niggas, you gotta give you that.
Speaker 1: He so he started asking me for that in County jail.
Speaker 1: Then we got to Tracy, I gave it to him
Speaker 1: to everything. Tied him every word, oh even the grunt.
Speaker 1: So that was an ex writer song, giving the buck,
Speaker 1: and then that three fifty seven.
Speaker 2: Was my song.
Speaker 1: So I wrote the chorus, I wrote verse one, I
Speaker 1: wrote the second chorus, and I wrote half of verse two,
Speaker 1: and then moved both to the dorms. His cousin't had
Speaker 1: no time. He had a joint suspension. I had a
Speaker 1: one eighty six twenty two, and on one eighty seven
Speaker 1: to eight, and then one two up to two point five.
Speaker 1: So I'm on my way to I'm on my way
Speaker 1: to New Folksoland Couz go to the dorm and he
Speaker 1: finished the rock so you.
Speaker 2: Could kind of hear where what I was doing.
Speaker 1: And then when he shows up in the second half
Speaker 1: of the song, you could hear. With collaboration, we ended
Speaker 1: up writing shit together that I used street life.
Speaker 2: That was bold. Bold. We wrote that chorus for me.
Speaker 2: I had it.
Speaker 1: I was saying that a certain kind of way. He
Speaker 1: was like, it's better like this, and I thought he
Speaker 1: was right. So that's the way I recorded it. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he. I just was writing for Buth.
Speaker 1: I gave him a lot more shit than he gave me,
Speaker 1: just because I had more shit, but like in terms
Speaker 1: of what I was writing on and he put his
Speaker 1: input in, we would rewrite shit and he he left
Speaker 1: with all of that, but he didn't record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both bull listen see bull livesen for real. So
Speaker 3: you said he was like he was out the destroying
Speaker 3: and ship of wreck and shit. Is that you bumping
Speaker 3: the MIC's to see a singing toon?
Speaker 2: I bumped in and said singleton.
Speaker 1: So my mom looked at church and I had I
Speaker 1: had created this little company called twenty four Deep Productions
Speaker 1: because I got the benefit of watching the big armies
Speaker 1: like this nigga do that thing. So I had that
Speaker 1: blue tape. That blue tape mattered to me and so
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this blue tape and IM like that.
Speaker 1: So we we started.
Speaker 2: Me and a hommy person for Flat Dog the music.
Speaker 1: Flat Dog Crip Gang is like like between the cree
Speaker 1: the Glenn Elders in Oak Park and sit right there.
Speaker 1: And so the homy came. He went to our continuation
Speaker 1: school and his mommy used to Byron Hell equipment. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that at the time. We just rapping at
Speaker 1: lunchtime and he was like hey, you really good. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, let's time pull it. Why don't you
Speaker 1: come to the house when we when we finished school
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I'm like, okay, cool. So because at
Speaker 1: the van, we jumped in the van. We all rolled
Speaker 1: to his spot and.
Speaker 2: This nigga got drum machines, records, the walls that just
Speaker 2: covered in crates, shives and crates.
Speaker 1: The zigga got everything, every sample I needed to do
Speaker 1: anything forever. That all this shit, it looked like alchemists.
Speaker 2: Little roam in there.
Speaker 1: He was sixteen, fifteen years old at the time, but
Speaker 1: that's how his mama loved him. She kept him out
Speaker 1: of trouble. Would let us be in there with that music,
Speaker 1: blast them till threefold.
Speaker 2: In the morning.
Speaker 1: Would never say a word because they care more that
Speaker 1: they knew where we was, that they felt that if
Speaker 1: it was loud, and that in nigga have beautiful parents.
Speaker 1: And so we was doing that get the songs done.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting these motherfuckers on consignment. And so my
Speaker 1: mama got my little cover. My cover was drawn by
Speaker 1: brother Lynch because I had really just said my name
Speaker 1: is X right and blah blah blah. I didn't have
Speaker 1: a rap name yet. I was still a little slimmed
Speaker 1: off for twenty fourth Street. They still call me a
Speaker 1: little ray. I wasn't my official name, but I was
Speaker 1: always with the big army, so they you like little
Speaker 1: slim dog over there, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: I Connessant was like busted the line that had X
Speaker 1: Raded in it. People started like X righty just calling
Speaker 1: me x Rader at Lench.
Speaker 2: Was like, Nigga, it can't be r A T D.
Speaker 2: It gotta be r I D E d KS And was.
Speaker 1: Like, you ain't no player on no base shit. You
Speaker 1: against it, nigga, Just that gainst.
Speaker 2: The shit ri I d D.
Speaker 1: So let's drew my first logo and drew my first
Speaker 1: cover and so my mama had that on the keychain,
Speaker 1: went to church and said it saw it. It was
Speaker 1: like you do you know X rayed And she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my son, and he gave her his card and so
Speaker 1: I had to Mamma, give me a card. I'm running
Speaker 1: around all right then no attention to it. We about
Speaker 1: to me and I eating. Some shit happened in the
Speaker 1: south Side, so me and I was about to go
Speaker 1: clap some sit up we get pulled over. This is
Speaker 1: back when if you in the car and you joy ride,
Speaker 1: and you're a joy rider. The nigga that got the
Speaker 1: pistol got a gun charge. The nigga that was driving
Speaker 1: the car got a GT it. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: how because we didn't get to go do it, yet
Speaker 1: it got us on our way to do it. So
Speaker 1: I get the joy ride and I spend a weekend
Speaker 1: in the jail. While I'm in the jail, I run
Speaker 1: into a hommy name a Metaview Blood.
Speaker 2: He was leaning still.
Speaker 1: He wasn't really like all the way over there, but
Speaker 1: he was head that I could see it going there.
Speaker 1: But his name is Miko. You were from the south Side,
Speaker 1: He from twenty third and I love that nigga.
Speaker 2: So this is how I meet me. I have seen
Speaker 2: him fifty million times.
Speaker 1: But I'm in juvenile hall waiting for my mama to
Speaker 1: get me out on Monday, and this nigga is in
Speaker 1: juvenile hall because they said he filed the serial number
Speaker 1: down on his Kuber.
Speaker 2: This nigga got cougar stans malleys. This nigga, young nigga
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: So seeing him, the juvenile alls like, fuck, this nigga
Speaker 1: doing the Juvenile though.
Speaker 2: I thought this nigga was twenty.
Speaker 4: Five thirty years old.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this nigga was in jam.
Speaker 1: They was just a balling young nigga that had a
Speaker 1: vision and a mission. And so he was like, we
Speaker 1: was talking and I was spending some run that niggas
Speaker 1: was like many you you were actualted.
Speaker 2: Cause niggas didn't know it was me. It was because
Speaker 2: it was just a picture. It was a drawing.
Speaker 1: It was no picture of me, like you said, were
Speaker 1: seldom seeing. There's very few pictures from me back then.
Speaker 2: Zero videos and no music videos.
Speaker 1: Until twenty eighteen when I came home. So the first
Speaker 1: music video I ever do a two point five million views,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had never even had
Speaker 1: a music video. And so yeah, so I get out
Speaker 1: of the Juvenile hall, he get out. We go about
Speaker 1: our way and I finally called the nigga Mick and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: you about what you were saying.
Speaker 2: You know, you'd like to want to do some management
Speaker 2: for you, blah blah blah. So me and him link up.
Speaker 1: We roll around and we pulled up on cedric I
Speaker 1: gave him the card he had called him the shit,
Speaker 1: and we pulled up on Cedric and then niggas agreed
Speaker 1: that Meek would fund everything and that Cedric could have
Speaker 1: his business.
Speaker 2: He had the brain powder.
Speaker 1: So Meek was like our herry yo, and Seject was
Speaker 1: like our should not And.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like that. So you had danger.
Speaker 1: All of productions was leat thing, and then Black Arct
Speaker 1: Records they built that was subjects thing. You know, I
Speaker 1: have my little twenty four deep Productions. Then that's where
Speaker 1: Lyunch got the EP name from A couple of years
Speaker 1: later that that was the name of my production company
Speaker 1: that I made up when I was fifteen years old
Speaker 1: as a little rapper.
Speaker 3: People will be even bring the stories up later, y'all,
Speaker 3: y'all take news.
Speaker 1: Hey, So yeah, the niggas built I was the first
Speaker 1: artist ever on Black Market Records. I'll say I'm the
Speaker 1: ll Cool j of Black Marty Records. It was the
Speaker 1: first one they ever released music for. Sacramento had artists
Speaker 1: prior to me, my Big Armies, Triple Threat three. You
Speaker 1: might see the BK, Bruce Knight and the Homy DC Ray.
Speaker 1: They had a group called Triple Direct three and they
Speaker 1: was more on that, you know, early almost techno hip,
Speaker 1: you know, the man Tronics type shit they was doing.
Speaker 2: That's what we was on. Yeah, that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: What would for us on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: It was techno out and it was fun niggas just
Speaker 1: having fun. And so they had that and the a
Speaker 1: cat named I'm a Sorry from Oak Park came out
Speaker 1: and uh, the black Market fucked with him a little
Speaker 1: bit on production, but they wasn't called black Market.
Speaker 2: They had a different name, and so that was they
Speaker 2: were behind it. It's crazy rip, Yeah, it was. I was.
Speaker 1: I was super motivated by am a side his presence
Speaker 1: and seeing him it made me feel like I could
Speaker 1: do it, you know what I mean, And so, uh,
Speaker 1: I started getting cracking.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was influenced by y'all. I was influenced by people
Speaker 1: like cy Percied. I thought Ice Cube was like that
Speaker 1: nigga bro Prime ice Cube with Ice considered Little Wayne
Speaker 1: to be that nigga from from straight out of Compton
Speaker 1: and Easy does it all the way to death Certificate.
Speaker 2: It's like an argument that that's the dopest chunk of
Speaker 2: that top hip hop down there. Everything on what these
Speaker 2: niggas is doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah that death what no, Joe, No, that was.
Speaker 1: Special man, that was he was breaking even chill, that
Speaker 1: will the birth the power uh in dangers.
Speaker 2: Species, the remixing that species. Like that shit that seemed special.
Speaker 2: And then like I said, it took me under.
Speaker 1: And then the whale sample nigga, Well all of that
Speaker 1: shit that oh man, that's the goosebumps nigga. So like
Speaker 1: I'm big on the chronological order of hip hop, history
Speaker 1: matters to me because you could see his influence on people.
Speaker 2: You could see a cycercial influenced cubes influence at WA's Dre's.
Speaker 1: You could go back farther enough to see where this
Speaker 1: shit came from.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people wouldn't like that. They don't
Speaker 2: want to do that. They do that on the East coast,
Speaker 2: they preserve their history.
Speaker 1: Going on the West, we show busy tearing each other down,
Speaker 1: that there's no preservation of our dopeness and our road
Speaker 1: map to show the treaty we go far because I'm
Speaker 1: proud to come from that lineage of what the Homies
Speaker 1: is doing.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of that far.
Speaker 3: That is because of what you said earlier. We don't
Speaker 3: get people. That's really nice with big ship of position. Man,
Speaker 3: it's always people from outside the coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it ain't gonna not no other race of people
Speaker 3: in none mills. But it's like Oparl Wall six. They
Speaker 3: ain't got one black DJ. I don't think it's one
Speaker 3: black show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there was a time where that would have
Speaker 1: been considered unacceptable. All we gotta do is listen to
Speaker 1: a track run on America. Most wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: what time it would have been. Nigga choose on everybody,
Speaker 1: as did Cornelius Nigga that nigga was on the American
Speaker 1: band staying Nigga anybody if they was, if they was
Speaker 1: playing with the culture, diluting the culture, they would get
Speaker 1: called out on it.
Speaker 2: And that stopped.
Speaker 1: Happening because niggas started getting checks, them checks. Niggas sold
Speaker 1: the cultures exact the integrity of the well bad.
Speaker 3: So when you was doing, when you was fucking with
Speaker 3: seeing singing black market ricords, how many ricords does drug
Speaker 3: over shit?
Speaker 2: I dropped, So I didna niggas.
Speaker 1: In black first and then uh with Tantrum from front
Speaker 1: of flats, and then Lynch got involved. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: those recordings became psychoactive, and the Exiousists happened bill Board,
Speaker 1: I forgiven happened bill Board. My nefarious project happened bill Board.
Speaker 1: The seatbull Tillmarcastic drops Billboard. Then that ain't counting twenty
Speaker 1: four deep. It's Season of the Sickness and all that shit,
Speaker 1: because my Exorcist album was actually called Season of the Sickness.
Speaker 1: That was what I was gonna call it, but nobody
Speaker 1: believed that I was gonna be able to do it.
Speaker 1: So I'm working on what would become Season of the Sickness,
Speaker 1: and somewhere over there they decided that that's what Lynch's
Speaker 1: album should be called, but that was actually the name
Speaker 1: of my album that became Exorcists, So I chose the
Speaker 1: name Exiorosists because they utilized Season of the Sickness for
Speaker 1: men's They saw I do Exorsists and all those different
Speaker 1: projects and just kept it moving.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I was obsessed and hitting bill Board and the culture
Speaker 1: paying attention. I didn't get the kind of stories written it.
Speaker 1: I would have liked the kid repeating up what the
Speaker 1: AP wrote, lazy reporting, but uh, it was dope that
Speaker 1: they kept my name alive.
Speaker 2: And you got lunching boat keeping my name alone.
Speaker 3: You know in sensation Liza, like we see earlier. You
Speaker 3: see it was like over lift. You know this dude
Speaker 3: man the rap lyricsy wrapped the bottle murder. He could
Speaker 3: be you know, they pushing that thing. They don't care
Speaker 3: if it's true a bel gift, it's true or false,
Speaker 3: as long as the reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't care. Man. All they want is the
Speaker 2: outcomes that they want.
Speaker 3: So I see it made some bread over there with
Speaker 3: you what you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cedric definitely made some bread. I feel like everybody
Speaker 1: made some bread. Everybody made some bread. What we did
Speaker 1: with it and how we got it, and you know
Speaker 1: what our individual deals work, that's a different question. But
Speaker 1: everybody definitely generated now. You know, I always if I
Speaker 1: told Cedric to send me ten bands, twenty bands like tonight,
Speaker 1: I had that ship by Monday.
Speaker 2: I have it by monday now. Still he just it's been.
Speaker 2: It was different for me with Cedric Singleton, and that's
Speaker 2: why there's no.
Speaker 1: Record that we're saying nothing reckless about him. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that brother didn't know what the fuck he
Speaker 1: was doing. Me didn't know what the fuck he was doing.
Speaker 1: I definitely know what the fuck I was doing. I
Speaker 1: just knew I was dope. I wanted to be dope,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to grow and get better as an MC.
Speaker 1: But like we was winging it, and so I all
Speaker 1: look at that brother like he was being a predatory
Speaker 1: person on us, and shit, I look like he made
Speaker 1: mistakes that cost him money too. He missed money as well.
Speaker 1: But like it wants you know better now we I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need you to do better. And some people feel
Speaker 1: like that in Apple fast enough. But in my case,
Speaker 1: you know, I was a juvenile and I got arrested.
Speaker 1: Cedric came up there, told him he was my father
Speaker 1: and visited me because he was worried they was trying
Speaker 1: to get me the depth in it.
Speaker 2: So this nigga's telling them he's my.
Speaker 1: Father and was coming to see me and make sure
Speaker 1: that my spirit is good and that I asked somebody
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting abused. You know, he would go back.
Speaker 1: I end up in the county jail. Cedric is there.
Speaker 1: I go to the prison. Cedric used to come and
Speaker 1: to visit a row play chess with me four or
Speaker 1: five hours. At the time, I was a seventeen year
Speaker 1: old baby. You know the amount of empathy he had.
Speaker 1: He never let nobody during interviews. He never let nobody
Speaker 1: play with me. He always defended what I was doing.
Speaker 1: And so I happen to just have I happened to
Speaker 1: love this nigga. I love it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He was, let's do That's my pops. I call him Pops.
Speaker 1: He like my J prince and he kind of like
Speaker 1: a J prince to Marsie. It ain't my place to
Speaker 1: speak on Mazi's relationship with Cedric, but I'll say, MASI
Speaker 1: has a relationship with Cedric that has prevented us from
Speaker 1: having issues.
Speaker 2: With each other because.
Speaker 1: That's my pops, and that's that's somebody that that that
Speaker 1: that that assisted Mazi with doing what he was doing too.
Speaker 1: But it would break his heart, you know. He was
Speaker 1: the main line like man, y'all. You know, look at
Speaker 1: my baby boys. Man, you know the same way I'll
Speaker 1: speak of mind. And so I just always kept it.
Speaker 1: I just kept that relationship best doory.
Speaker 3: It was though I had the man got to communion
Speaker 3: say it same because I called you the other day
Speaker 3: and I said, man, guess what, like it was some
Speaker 3: dude Africa I'm just flipping through the thing and it's
Speaker 3: this African channel or whatever, and I'm seeing to do
Speaker 3: the wed here with the biggest man for the biggest
Speaker 3: record label in Africa, Black Market Records, and I'm like
Speaker 3: somebody gonna throw only you know, say a thing's left
Speaker 3: and it's him over there Africa and the saying he
Speaker 3: got cracking big international African artists.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, everything, he got a relationship with the president. Everything.
Speaker 1: We could go to Africa and go to Savari and
Speaker 1: be walking around with the lions inside of a resort.
Speaker 2: And just be chilling. If we could get there, That's
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. We got. We're gonna be having a
Speaker 2: boss player experience. That niggas.
Speaker 1: That niggas, he the the dude over there, one of them.
Speaker 1: He wanted the dudes over there. You tell me all
Speaker 1: the time, man, you he sent me pictures of murals.
Speaker 1: He like you on the wall over here, you with
Speaker 1: that gun to your head is on the walls out
Speaker 1: here in Africa.
Speaker 2: It's like I walk around, it's like it's Tupac on
Speaker 2: the wall.
Speaker 1: And you say, you'll see Chinzick on the wall. You'll
Speaker 1: see Snoop on the wall. He's like you on the
Speaker 1: wall outre or that that's cycle. I take a picture
Speaker 1: on the wall that the.
Speaker 3: So somebody somebody at the show in Africa, senter's a
Speaker 3: picture that but to see if I know they got
Speaker 3: the only eight someone floating on that wall.
Speaker 2: He wax is on the wall.
Speaker 3: I didn't yehe man, you know what. That's dope, man,
Speaker 3: because you know what I always tell people. You do
Speaker 3: have the horror stories from back in the day of
Speaker 3: people doing stuff, but a lot of stuff could be
Speaker 3: contributed to people being young and not knowing how to
Speaker 3: man situation. Man.
Speaker 2: We gotta operate from empathy.
Speaker 1: Man. I was a I was tripping and I was
Speaker 1: I was pushing the line that was damnar I sustainable.
Speaker 1: It was inevitable. I had to I was gonna die
Speaker 1: or go to jail. It was inevitable. That's what that
Speaker 1: behavior does. And that's what it was for me.
Speaker 2: And I was not only one.
Speaker 1: That's what the That's what Tom was in this country.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of conditions that have been driven us
Speaker 1: just have to survive fight and we all got.
Speaker 4: We all felt the pressure of growing up in poverty
Speaker 4: and low income and just trying to survive with where
Speaker 4: we're victims of it, and that's what turned a lot
Speaker 4: of us into them, them vicious street characters, you get me.
Speaker 4: We was influenced by the niggas we saw hitting me.
Speaker 4: Uh Like, you know, they had fucking the motherfuckers in
Speaker 4: your library books and they taught you that bullshiting class
Speaker 4: about who's your heroes, and the motherfucker and the horse
Speaker 4: with the cowboy hat Martin had a dream, and and
Speaker 4: fucking the lady sat in the back of the bus
Speaker 4: refuse rows of porns and all that. They teach you
Speaker 4: that ship. But in reality, motherfucker, it's niggas outside sheeting
Speaker 4: every day, selling drugs and shipping nigga and I'm one up.
Speaker 4: You feel neat, So that trying to teach a nigga
Speaker 4: some other reality of where I'm at, nigga goes, Nigga,
Speaker 4: Look what the funk I'm at you. You can't teach
Speaker 4: me no other reality than what I'm seeing every day.
Speaker 4: So a lot of us young fall mixed them to it,
Speaker 4: and a lot of the niggas don't understand laughing for us,
Speaker 4: was father that's sending the homes and ship, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: it's coming up, so for real.
Speaker 3: So the garden block, the sea boof garden man, you
Speaker 3: got yo, brother lakes, Yo, you don't have that vicious
Speaker 3: crawls with the garden block, yo. Yo. That's presence, y'all
Speaker 3: gotta because it's some youngsters over there getting busy carting toys.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm right there. He's the vicious.
Speaker 3: Bulls.
Speaker 4: Yes, guard a lot, garden block favorous man.
Speaker 1: Let's say it on these names. Man, you said we
Speaker 1: got award gip when there was yeah macintoe. Okay, So
Speaker 1: my big hommy dolty right yere, my big hommy douty
Speaker 1: is we.
Speaker 2: Was one of the first ones outside.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: He's from twenty nar Street. Our area.
Speaker 1: There's a box that guard block sits in that box
Speaker 1: is Medoview Road, Franklin Boulevard, Florin Road, the Freeport Boulevard,
Speaker 1: and that kind of most of everything in that box
Speaker 1: a little bit above Franklin. All of that is considered
Speaker 1: the guards keyways and and Dominus out there. And so
Speaker 1: our particular section we got three streets twenty nur Street,
Speaker 1: twenty fourth Street, and twenty first three and we call
Speaker 1: that nine one follow twenty Gang Garden Block Cribs South.
Speaker 2: Side and now in that. Out of that, Dar Lennias
Speaker 2: has produced uh trick.
Speaker 1: Hit Three Brothers, then myself, the first real international individual
Speaker 1: solo artists and the one that really brought the attention
Speaker 1: to the set. Like Psychoacticus Brother Lynch and see will
Speaker 1: on it. It was so early. Psychoactive was so early.
Speaker 1: Sea Boll's name is Snowman. In the credits, he's it's
Speaker 1: only to say Seaboll, It's say the Homie Snowman.
Speaker 2: And so like my.
Speaker 1: Fucking with a Psycho chorus, that sea bow on their
Speaker 1: Sea Bow on every single bitch chorus talking in the background.
Speaker 2: That's Buck. He was in the studio with us and Sit.
Speaker 1: I remember that Nigga came off from wire I'm at
Speaker 1: the Homie a Seahouse playing around on Percy's Elasi's drummer scene,
Speaker 1: and the Nigga Bo walked through the duk Homie Ac
Speaker 1: and Black from twenty nine Street Bo the dog openisig
Speaker 1: got the blue Khaki sou gone with the Cortes, and
Speaker 1: then Nigga got the Jerry Curl with the lots everywhere,
Speaker 1: and he's just beautiful fresh out. I'm like fifteen because
Speaker 1: it's probably like nineteen or twenty nineteen knocking on twenty
Speaker 1: or something like that, you know, And uh, I just
Speaker 1: remember that it was a dumb bass thing when he
Speaker 1: came home, and so Bo was just running around and
Speaker 1: making music. Marv Matt, She was fucking with people in
Speaker 1: the set like that. Mike mose all of them, he
Speaker 1: was working with them, Rick Rock, Rick Rock had a
Speaker 1: house on twenty nine Street. Yeah, Mike Mosley is the
Speaker 1: nigga and then almost everybody's under them. Studio Tone is
Speaker 1: the one that was really the dude a studio. He
Speaker 1: was doing forty too, wouldn't Yeah, we can't say everybody.
Speaker 1: He was doing forty Ship and he was the big
Speaker 1: hall on theos SO Studio call of forty.
Speaker 2: It was the big house. And all the other niggas
Speaker 2: was following.
Speaker 1: Mike Moseley, Sam Bostick and Rick Rockers all following behind him.
Speaker 1: Young disciples learning their way and getting that dick. But
Speaker 1: that my phone that bounced was coming really out of
Speaker 1: niggas getting the bar what Tall Copon did and then
Speaker 1: Mike Moseley, Sambostik and Rick Rock finding the own way.
Speaker 3: Legendary is production and Sam Bostonias head slips super.
Speaker 1: That shit was coming out of Sacramento and believing everywhere
Speaker 1: else from out the other way around. Studio Tall had
Speaker 1: that sound coming out the bay and that's how I
Speaker 1: was working, but it was different from what what was
Speaker 1: coming out the other direction. And then that nigga Spice
Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing. And then you had
Speaker 1: that nigga Richard Reck Redgy Hitler wasn't Killer, Frank Robson,
Speaker 1: MATC Felix, missus.
Speaker 2: So money made money, your twenty G stats.
Speaker 1: Moses split the c in King, Tuck war Good and
Speaker 1: Jesus is the change of the story just told of my.
Speaker 2: Possey balloom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1: That nigga has to realize this is like I wasn't
Speaker 1: even in the studio yet I got the chance to
Speaker 1: tell rich that. I really was happy that I could
Speaker 1: tell him just like you was what that blue taking
Speaker 1: into us?
Speaker 2: Rocky Niggas Me and Cuz talk about you. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you know, me and him be on the
Speaker 2: foll two three.
Speaker 4: Hours out of time that just got damn mouth was
Speaker 4: ship this nigga.
Speaker 1: We would be talking about you, like where did this nigga?
Speaker 1: Where where you fit in and what you did for
Speaker 1: the culture.
Speaker 3: We put some ship to get putting place, yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: run you know, putting plays together. It's very you know
Speaker 3: very just do. All you gotta do is hit the whole.
Speaker 3: Are just gonna be half stepping tip through into that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: You gotta hit that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Shit he a motherfucker Like, what's that movie my niggas
Speaker 4: shot a nigga when he was going through the hole
Speaker 4: or movie?
Speaker 2: Like everything it's gonna be an old right here.
Speaker 4: It's a move right the way.
Speaker 2: This is the fire, no effort for eight nigga, that's
Speaker 2: eight eight.
Speaker 1: Youre about open the age. Show up, eight voice, show up,
Speaker 1: eight name, show up. It's gonna work because nigga, Come
Speaker 1: on now, ley what everybody else is doing right now?
Speaker 2: Niggas out there that HEAs outside like an m c A.
Speaker 2: You are your brand. It's so powerful right now in
Speaker 2: this area. Like that's an ease.
Speaker 3: It's just what I'm you know what I want to
Speaker 3: ask you, though? Man? Why is sack of malo music's
Speaker 3: so dark?
Speaker 1: I think I gotta I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: was my fut when Psychoactive.
Speaker 2: Came out and the Exorcist came out.
Speaker 1: Then twenty four Deep happened and the season what change
Speaker 1: season that the sickness happened, that role to success, creating limicry.
Speaker 1: Niggas started mimicking what we was doing, and you know,
Speaker 1: they felt like that was the laying and it and
Speaker 1: it was dope. There was a pocket to be in.
Speaker 1: So I came kind of unforgiven. I kind of sped
Speaker 1: the tempo up, and I felt like Lynch all Loaded
Speaker 1: did Lynce, Like Loaded was really Lynch doing Lynce. We
Speaker 1: all kind of had each other. We were a malgamation
Speaker 1: of each other. But when I did unforgiving it, I
Speaker 1: did unforgiven. And well, let's did Loaded. That was Lynch
Speaker 1: doing Lenz. And then Bedo BoA's enemy of a State
Speaker 1: in it and he did that was both doing both.
Speaker 1: So everybody had their own individual approach to the pocket.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that made us dope.
Speaker 1: And then we introduced Luney Coleon on my Exorcist album,
Speaker 1: and then I introduced T Nutty on my Vengeance's Mind album.
Speaker 1: I introduced Belizo in them on my Initiation in my
Speaker 1: City of Kings probably Jack, so like I just been
Speaker 1: you know, putting the armies and positions every chance I got,
Speaker 1: no matter what, because I feel like that's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do.
Speaker 2: And we just dug some of.
Speaker 3: The yeas up there, you know, before we go, I
Speaker 3: gotta asking this man. So you come home and get
Speaker 3: out the stuff. How do you look up with tech men? Oh?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: So like, I got this really bad habit that I
Speaker 1: probably won't be able to break. Man, it's unfortunate then,
Speaker 1: but I like to take brother Lynch's fades.
Speaker 2: That's my brother, you know what I mean. So somebody got.
Speaker 1: An issue with Lynch, It's likely that I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be okay about that.
Speaker 2: And so Lynch and Tech nine bompais a little bit
Speaker 2: over something.
Speaker 1: And there was a song that was circulating and people
Speaker 1: who speculated was about Lynch, and uh, I felt like
Speaker 1: Lynch and TeX's.
Speaker 2: Business was they business? So I didn't want to get
Speaker 2: in that.
Speaker 1: But when the other niggas started charming in and Avid
Speaker 1: pom Pops just sitting pissed me off. So I just
Speaker 1: kind of just was like, like, I don't know all
Speaker 1: these other men, I said, I felt like them too.
Speaker 1: For work They issue out and they deserve that right,
Speaker 1: to do that and being who.
Speaker 2: They are to each other.
Speaker 1: But the rest of you niggas with your pop pops,
Speaker 1: I'm not never fucking the you niggas again. And Tech
Speaker 1: kind of comment them in post like I much respect
Speaker 1: for that. I'm gonna we'll see each other out there.
Speaker 2: Man must love.
Speaker 1: And uh So I had a little hustle going and
Speaker 1: I was able to grab a bag for Lynch and
Speaker 1: I was like, hes, you can go to KC.
Speaker 2: We got this bag that got a chance to get
Speaker 2: me a bag, and'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: So we went out to KC to do a show
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm at Lowe's and my fallster blown up
Speaker 1: from ground. This crip, little crip niggas start calling cuse
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. This nigga wanted to talk to you,
Speaker 1: Like who you Tech, My honey, this nigga you go
Speaker 1: into the barbecue. I was like, what barbecue? After Armies
Speaker 1: having the barbecue? Tech Tech is us and if you coming,
Speaker 1: because if you come, he go pull up. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you got you got these young niggas out here having
Speaker 1: a barbecue, hoping that they excelling.
Speaker 2: Tech about the show up.
Speaker 1: But I don't know is that somewhere take what they
Speaker 1: wanted to be, because it's some probability that like I
Speaker 1: might show up the city, the city the Young Keyway,
Speaker 1: Almays be pulling up if you like.
Speaker 2: Nigga, come on, I'll be with them, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: But they do it. They take me up, they don't
Speaker 1: take me down. So you know, it'll be the young
Speaker 1: Keyway nigga with the cars and a little bit of
Speaker 1: money and he moving around and we doing it like this,
Speaker 1: and he'll bring niggas up with us, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, instead of making me go down. But I'll
Speaker 1: go down there to some brands, into some guts and
Speaker 1: we'll we'll kick it for a minute and dip out.
Speaker 1: But it's always happened in the right way, just enough
Speaker 1: to give us salute, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: me and let's go fun. Finally it bring it's the
Speaker 1: little honey Treds. I trust Trids. That's my little brother.
Speaker 1: I asked for what's up the Trids? Like, man, where're
Speaker 1: you eating at? I'm like, I'll tell you I'm looking
Speaker 1: at these places. He said, all right, I'll say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick this on. Say I'll be there at fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: take and be there at thirty. I'm like, cool, we
Speaker 1: go around the corner. We're doing us. We getting in
Speaker 1: the restaurant and shut our chairs, walked through the dot
Speaker 1: and then balling this nigga tech walk did the dog.
Speaker 1: I face timed Lynch had let them tark briefly Lynch.
Speaker 1: I told Lynch we was going but you know, Lynce
Speaker 1: is gonna do it. Lynch is a Lynch is hit
Speaker 1: his stage where if if, if there ain't a real reason,
Speaker 1: this nigga's not going over nowhere.
Speaker 2: I respect that, Like I'm with these babies now, I'm
Speaker 2: a homebody.
Speaker 1: So I understood it. I'll face tied them though. We
Speaker 1: broke bread, great conversation, take go, dip off to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: We all talked it.
Speaker 1: Then they could walk back up and handed me a
Speaker 1: phone and he was driving so goad. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: would you put you doing Monday? I was like, cause
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be.
Speaker 2: On playing like Saturday or Sunday. I was like, shit,
Speaker 2: I ain't doing nothing Monday. What's happen?
Speaker 1: And he was like, pull up on me, man at
Speaker 1: one o'clock, I want to have a meet with you
Speaker 1: on Monday. I'm like, okay, cool, that's June fourteenth for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. So I got all this weekend to
Speaker 1: do whatever just is all the way hunger out with
Speaker 1: the Chase Keyway homies, my nigga, Teate Diggs, Twelfth Street,
Speaker 1: a few of them. We hung out, ran around the
Speaker 1: city a little bit, uh, and then it come Monday,
Speaker 1: like me and Tech. This Saturday, me and Tech invited
Speaker 1: all of us to Jack Stacks, so we have a
Speaker 1: dinner for like fifteen people. And I get this, nigga,
Speaker 1: let's come on, nigga, and they just pull up and
Speaker 1: they sat down and had a convo, and I was
Speaker 1: the first convo since lanch had really left Strange music.
Speaker 1: Where the two of them sat down and we ate
Speaker 1: some barbecue, broke bread. Lychar Sade came. It was mom, nephew.
Speaker 3: You know young.
Speaker 2: Yates.
Speaker 1: He's a savage beast, this wide eighth dollar sign and
Speaker 1: he and Monster's only collab out. But he came out
Speaker 1: to say he wanted to meet brother Lynchong and x Rady.
Speaker 1: So he came, you know, and I was dope, and
Speaker 1: we broke bread and so Tech came New Vegas, same
Speaker 1: thing kicked it and shit, you know, I got even
Speaker 1: plug at the Aria. It was just a dope ass weekend.
Speaker 1: And then uh he Filely was like, man, man, I
Speaker 1: got this song.
Speaker 2: I want you to hear. He send me the song.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think the song is due. He was like,
Speaker 2: let me hear. He said, do you let me hear
Speaker 2: what you got?
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 1: I was like all right, so I go in there.
Speaker 1: I'll do my thing and turned into still right here
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, we got one.
Speaker 2: We got one. That motherfucker ran up a couple million streams.
Speaker 1: Video did very well, and then uh Tech was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: my partner coming to Vegas. He's like, he got a
Speaker 1: couple of things to do, but that nigga's there to
Speaker 1: see you. He was like, he there to see you, bro,
Speaker 1: He's there to see you. He said, So sit telling
Speaker 1: what you need, telling what you what your vision is,
Speaker 1: and then let me know. And uh, they were gonna move.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'll need you with me.
Speaker 2: I was like cool, and then sure enough, Traff came
Speaker 2: to town.
Speaker 1: He came to my office, he came to my building,
Speaker 1: met with my business partners and uh in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and uh, they discussed.
Speaker 2: Plans to sit like that and then they sent.
Speaker 3: So it was quite bad.
Speaker 2: I think the whole process.
Speaker 1: Took from June to March, from June to Twe won
Speaker 1: in March of twenty two, and then I got my
Speaker 1: chain and got the announcement on the stage at Red Rocks,
Speaker 1: like where Michael Jackson and the Beatles were performed for it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, front.
Speaker 2: Of ten thousand people. That's a little as we're just
Speaker 2: doing all that.
Speaker 3: Them dudes probably got the most impressive set up there.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Strange Landing?
Speaker 2: Actually, Chris, I'm gonna need to do We're gonna have
Speaker 2: to prerect that.
Speaker 3: You gotta go out there and see this.
Speaker 2: I toured Strange.
Speaker 1: I toured the Strange Universe, and we spent four hours
Speaker 1: accessing each level of what is essentially like a college
Speaker 1: campus dedicated to crew music, creation, to contract careers.
Speaker 2: And not even you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's at four hours and we still didn't see
Speaker 1: it all. But it's a car wise. We got our
Speaker 1: car Wise, and then there's Strange Music, which is our headquarters,
Speaker 1: and then you got Strange land We just creative department.
Speaker 1: Did you he got a Strange world, which is where
Speaker 1: the merchants made. And he got Strange Works, which is
Speaker 1: a construction company really, and then you have Strange Box,
Speaker 1: which is like a toy box, and that's where all
Speaker 1: the cars are.
Speaker 2: And if you do it's just a beautiful situation.
Speaker 3: Here's some crazy shit, man, Tech. You know what's funny.
Speaker 3: As I made Chick Willing's uh my boy Marrow, he
Speaker 3: used to work West Records Techlets signed the question and
Speaker 3: Huan Creek was with him, and that's when I first
Speaker 3: heard cycle of Big Soli King. And my boy Mark
Speaker 3: sat at my homeboy Marrio and he was doing some
Speaker 3: work for West, and he kept telling me, Man, because
Speaker 3: you know, I'm ridgingly from the Midwest. He's a teller.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It's a dude from Kansas City. He used to all
Speaker 3: this to ch was Cleveland of Kansas City. And I
Speaker 3: be like, man, Kansas City is Kansas City. Cleveland Cleveland
Speaker 3: leaned on on each other's face like that. But he'll
Speaker 3: let me hear the cycles big Saw. And I was like,
Speaker 3: this dude Lean he is ill man craddy as he
Speaker 3: got flowed right. So he took me to a show.
Speaker 3: When Tech first started a strain and this sow shit grow.
Speaker 3: It was about maybe they had to short the House
Speaker 3: of Blues and was making seventy people there. This is
Speaker 3: like at the beginning. Scared me and the snun Brimer
Speaker 3: was there, and it's like the beginning. But when I
Speaker 3: tell you niggas, they rocked all seventy of them motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: like seventy people in that motherfucker all the things. I
Speaker 3: was like, this dude got something.
Speaker 2: Tell it was the beginning of it.
Speaker 3: And he did the same servant. Next year he came
Speaker 3: out losing. I would go to every show they would
Speaker 3: let me and I kick it with him, Chris calif
Speaker 3: and all of them. It was bigger. It was a
Speaker 3: lot bigger. I was loss full. Next time he came,
Speaker 3: it was too big for the House Blues. He had
Speaker 3: to have the Key Club and this nigga had trial.
Speaker 3: Like when the Key Club hauled like three four thousand
Speaker 3: people up in that motherfucker, it's wall of the wall,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, this nigga really did And I saw
Speaker 3: them gold be in them vans.
Speaker 2: Does that Yeah, Yeah, that nigga still does that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's dot to see it. I love man. You know,
Speaker 2: one of the me and Krooker had this conversation. He
Speaker 2: was like, I love to see a black man, a
Speaker 2: black man landing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It was just the racial was a motherfuckers in tech
Speaker 2: do it like?
Speaker 1: Man, I think it's the toughest fuck that and that
Speaker 1: it was him, you know, And Travis is asad traved
Speaker 1: Off fucking around.
Speaker 2: Travis is one of the smartest motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: And it was hard too because I tell you, I
Speaker 3: knew about tech situation when take got off a strange
Speaker 3: he had a thing with you, not with the homely
Speaker 3: sway in tech, that something going on with them. So
Speaker 3: it was a lot of little stuff that he had
Speaker 3: to go clear up. West was still talking about They
Speaker 3: was all with some money before they typically ain't released
Speaker 3: them yet. So Trav when they cleared all this stuff
Speaker 3: and I saw the play that they ring and trash,
Speaker 3: you could tell he was committed because he kept white
Speaker 3: fucking already in and I saw but you saw a
Speaker 3: bubble though, man, and this suppressive ship out for ever
Speaker 3: seeing in my life.
Speaker 2: That's up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could tell you that the energy is beautiful,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think it's accurate in terms of it being.
Speaker 2: In some of the most impressive shit of myth.
Speaker 1: As somebody who has unfettered access to every level of it,
Speaker 1: I can tell you for sure that it is real.
Speaker 2: It's the capabilities of that machine. It's nice. It's like
Speaker 2: being a quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's like being a player getting drafted to a team
Speaker 1: that's already ready to go, and you're like, oh, I can't.
Speaker 3: Any merchant step over there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my march there.
Speaker 3: He's just amazing you being able to walk up to
Speaker 3: your label and going to this building and they're doing
Speaker 3: all the ship that you got up in your a
Speaker 3: and they just doing it.
Speaker 2: And then you go over there and you.
Speaker 3: See a whole bunch of fings with your wrap on
Speaker 3: it that you're about to go on tour, and you
Speaker 3: go bet hit fifty cities and Mike as ring. Nah,
Speaker 3: It's it's just super crack dog. And I ain't even
Speaker 3: see nothing.
Speaker 1: Like it an entire street. There's just strange logos as
Speaker 1: you drive down. Now, Mom, funny Victoria.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 3: I'll bet you that tripped you out first, specially.
Speaker 2: When I first saw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they tripped me out in a positive way,
Speaker 1: like a kid in the candy store target shit, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what to do with this. And Check told
Speaker 1: me he was like, maigg anything you can imagine child
Speaker 1: Challenge and Challenge team and see, I'll bet you that.
Speaker 2: He watched and I got it was.
Speaker 3: Budget too, ma'am. You ain't got no exac with the video.
Speaker 3: Your videos are like they like, all of them are doing.
Speaker 1: So the video department, don't fuck around about me, man,
Speaker 1: that's the creative department. Strange Land itself is a dope
Speaker 1: place and it's some dope assed dudes in there, and
Speaker 1: they been really good to me.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I got great relationships with the people that are responsible
Speaker 1: for doing the creative work.
Speaker 2: Those are my best relationships. And Stace, you know, the videographer.
Speaker 2: It was my people.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to go on there with Trav Man
Speaker 3: for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's a very really well I used to think I
Speaker 1: was busy. I really believed it, and then I met
Speaker 1: these niggas. I spent like during super Bowl week, which
Speaker 1: is probably a hyper version of it, exaggerated version of it,
Speaker 1: but I spent super Bowl two weeks I think, and
Speaker 1: leading up to the super Bowl with them and that was.
Speaker 1: That was the most exhausting shit ever. Them niggas move,
Speaker 1: them niggas move, also militaristic.
Speaker 2: Bam bam bam bam bam band bam bam. Farms is gain.
Speaker 1: Executive over here in and break the camera guy, and
Speaker 1: we moved and made all that shit happen.
Speaker 2: I remember I sat on the couch and was like,
Speaker 2: damn and I was just like, man, let me just
Speaker 2: chill four a minute. I fall asleep. When I walk
Speaker 2: up this nigga tech is gone from the suite.
Speaker 1: He don't win it did the show with twenty one
Speaker 1: Savage and all of them all this shit, and is
Speaker 1: walking in the room and he was.
Speaker 2: Like, man, I could don't kill me as I just
Speaker 2: couldn't wake you up.
Speaker 1: And I realized, like sitting down and going to sleep
Speaker 1: that fast, I missed all this. I missed all that shit,
Speaker 1: and that's what I was there for. So the lesson
Speaker 1: I learned is ain't no sleeping when when when we
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, you get yourself ready and
Speaker 1: it's fine to whatever tarn Travis said to be downstairs.
Speaker 2: We was downstairs and we moved.
Speaker 1: And then when when that night is done, you gotta
Speaker 1: wash your face, brush your teeth, and go to sleep.
Speaker 1: You gotta and then get up in the morning. If
Speaker 1: there ain't no plan on your phone, tell me to
Speaker 1: catch up on my social nitty them two three hours,
Speaker 1: you weren't to sleep. Now we up again in the morning.
Speaker 1: You do it again the next day. You six hours,
Speaker 1: You got a six and a half hours sleep deficit,
Speaker 1: pass out for forty five minutes, and you just missed
Speaker 1: a great majority of the things we're here to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I learned, like I
Speaker 1: gotta stay with them, run the plays the coach called
Speaker 1: and win the pro If they went to sleep, you
Speaker 1: go to sleep. If they ain't sleep, you ain't. And
Speaker 1: it taught me what busy was and what busy wasn't
Speaker 1: too me. Nigga's busy, they based. They still managed to
Speaker 1: come through like everything that I've ever beat it, both
Speaker 1: of them come through.
Speaker 2: If I call it, I can't talk right now. And
Speaker 2: as for the father, tell me they can't talk. If
Speaker 2: I say I need something done for them, they get
Speaker 2: it done like that.
Speaker 3: And is this s sicking? The third album over?
Speaker 1: This is my second album, But it don't really matter
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna do I'm gonna do all kind of
Speaker 1: shit over there.
Speaker 2: It don't matter the fifty fifth album, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It's out like we pushing.
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta keep push and ship.
Speaker 3: That's so that's hard. Opefully I know you in time
Speaker 3: then you would get a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Hopefully gave you a different experience. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh I anticipated that was on the way here. I
Speaker 1: was like this, some of this other ship has worked.
Speaker 1: It's about to be chilling with our folks. It's a
Speaker 1: different the sad thing with Big Court. You know, gon
Speaker 1: show you I'm Big Court man. This is my god
Speaker 1: right there? What man sucking. I ain't gonnaell them. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be talking about them players at the work
Speaker 1: because out there, you know they'd be here less.
Speaker 4: We're about to do this.
Speaker 3: They're taking me a little hater.
Speaker 2: They're made, Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: They got there, so they doing. They just saw the
Speaker 1: nigga Steels say throw your worlder's play. Niggas will run
Speaker 1: your play. Have that idea like them?
Speaker 2: All right, Gate is a real thig like Spiker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, spiky like a motherfucker. So and make sure I
Speaker 3: got this right man. All this twenty third, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yes, you'll do the drum roll man, Yeah, here it comes, attendant,
Speaker 1: Heaven will be dropping uh off twenty fourth Street. Actually
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth letter alphabet I did twenty four years
Speaker 1: before I knew I was coming on, and they're coming
Speaker 1: on two years later. Uh, twenty four hundred is midnight
Speaker 1: in military time. I got twenty four songs on the album,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what I'm all were pushing that.
Speaker 1: And the Sin in Heaven is about all of the
Speaker 1: different stages than the stakes eerrors that I've made since
Speaker 1: I came along, the right decisions and how it worked out.
Speaker 1: This is the story in my Sin in Heaven, from
Speaker 1: top to bottom, and it's it I feel like in
Speaker 1: the legacy of West Coast hip hop lyrical longs.
Speaker 2: It fits, it fits, it belongs there. It's a slapper
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm proud.
Speaker 1: I hope I do you justice or I hope you
Speaker 1: gonna hear it well, I ain't get it long and
Speaker 1: make your feel like a yeah, it's good, it's good.
Speaker 2: It's good. I did that, man.
Speaker 3: I can't wait the bank man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it slap man.
Speaker 1: I'm happy, you know, coming off all this shit that
Speaker 1: I did with Tech, the Joiner Lucas Conway thing for
Speaker 1: rock Cham to post my shit, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: for our conversation faces with corrupt.
Speaker 2: My niggas ce mob Like. It's just it's a dope
Speaker 2: thing to be able there, to stand up to that level.
Speaker 2: What's required for you to be that double especially now
Speaker 2: everybody ain't still dope. Don't you know if you went
Speaker 2: crazy when you came in on Mass City, don't you
Speaker 2: know what that did to us? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You and you don't get to jail.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 4: Come when that came over. Keep some of that authenticity, man,
Speaker 4: that's all.
Speaker 2: That's the way to do.
Speaker 1: That's how I want people to feel when they able
Speaker 1: to hear this album the way I felt i heard
Speaker 1: it pop up on Mass City.
Speaker 2: I need them to feel it. It's really good.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of it, you know, because you've been probing
Speaker 3: some question ship man man, you just you know what
Speaker 3: you gotta, but you be some shit for rock Him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, out there they are yeah rock Him and
Speaker 1: Method Man, and uh you know it's rock Him and
Speaker 1: Method Man.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, no, that's Roman. You want it?
Speaker 3: What real rep? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would I think I'm like I'm on behalf of
Speaker 1: the West Coast. I gotta so every line. I always
Speaker 1: no lines. First round overall draft pick I was chosen
Speaker 1: a roll with a circle of ominous man call us
Speaker 1: the Old Men, Ozy Osbourne, Bien Heads All Bats, his
Speaker 1: black magic Killer Cipher on a Saturday call.
Speaker 2: Out a black Sabbath. What you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: I been garn shit the fuck up? I really been born.
Speaker 1: Sit up, I've been doing shit. Kids with good respect
Speaker 1: nigga and then gotta respect. I want you all to
Speaker 1: respect it. I want the game to respect it, and
Speaker 1: I want my motherfucking spot right. We're all the loll
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? In w A here we
Speaker 1: tell bow blah blah blah, just most Nigga, ice cube
Speaker 1: X rated Nigga, then deep.
Speaker 3: For brother Lynch. Nigga said to come up and support this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna do it. I've been hostile with my nose.
Speaker 1: Travis o'gwnn is the Bill Belichick at this Independence ship.
Speaker 1: He's the He's the he's the reigning coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: several champions trophies, all of that type of shit and
Speaker 1: techts hit.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and so I'm listening.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the machine that has produced successful championships, and
Speaker 1: to me, I want to run the place that they
Speaker 1: think are the best plays. I don't got time to
Speaker 1: make little homy mistakes. I't got time to do little
Speaker 1: homye shit. So my note game is strong.
Speaker 2: I'm Matrix Neo with the nose Nigga.
Speaker 1: My nose is savage. So as a result of my
Speaker 1: nose being savage, they got to pay me very well
Speaker 1: for my yests. If I'm leaving my babies at home,
Speaker 1: I want to be compensated like I belong in the
Speaker 1: era i'll belong. I want to perform in the area
Speaker 1: that is deserving the one of us. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say no, I don't give a fuck. If I don't
Speaker 1: like your venue, it's out. If I like the bag,
Speaker 1: it's out. If I don't like the beat, it's out
Speaker 1: because I don't got time. I don't have time to
Speaker 1: do it the other way. And it's disrespectful to Iraq Kim,
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful to Tech and Travis. It's disrespectful to Joiner,
Speaker 1: Lucas and Conway to be associated with this energy.
Speaker 2: And then I go do some little Nigga City, Like
Speaker 2: what you up here for?
Speaker 1: There? You can't confuse them. I'm like, we don't Mount
Speaker 1: Olympus they talk about they rush Moores. We don't Mount
Speaker 1: o Leptos. And you can you can go off that
Speaker 1: thing and come back up and.
Speaker 2: It start getting confusing. Do you ball up here? Or
Speaker 2: are you down there?
Speaker 1: And I all want to walk down Mount Olympus knowing
Speaker 1: I want to hang out up there and my throw
Speaker 1: lightning boats.
Speaker 2: At Motherfucker's Nigga seven and just stay up there. So
Speaker 2: that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Lets its Rock Kim's up there, the as up there,
Speaker 1: It's Doctor Dre's up there.
Speaker 2: I like Mount Olympus, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's real ship. So we try to get fit with you.
Speaker 3: Come on, got some ship, Mayle. But you know what,
Speaker 3: we appreciate you coming to sit down with this dull
Speaker 3: and date.
Speaker 2: It's an honor, man.
Speaker 1: I love y'all niggas man, which I love our conversations.
Speaker 1: I love your contribution to the culture. It matters to
Speaker 1: me'll really, my internal Ippop Chad is a very happy
Speaker 1: guy right now.
Speaker 2: The blue Tape, Nigga, was you active? Was you outside
Speaker 2: with the blue tape.
Speaker 3: It's cracky.
Speaker 2: You batter being, you've battered being, and if you was,
Speaker 2: then you know what the blue tape was about. It
Speaker 2: was activated, was the activated one?
Speaker 3: Jill?
Speaker 2: Jill there, I got that.
Speaker 3: Let's take this flick real quick, flish