WEBVTT - “I’M HOOKING UP WITH MY CO-WORKER”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Yeah, Yeah, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, how's it going dude? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jimmy, Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on, Jimmy? How's life?

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<v Speaker 1>Life is actually pretty cool and a little complicated lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, I'm kicking my dog gack in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all right, man. Why is life? Well? I guess

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<v Speaker 3>we could start with why it's Why is it cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I would be alive still, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two. I'm from Philly, and like, Philly is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy. I'm sure you know because you went to

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<v Speaker 1>Temple mm hm. But I just moved out to like Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm starting to like appreciate like the finer things

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<v Speaker 1>in life. I just like nature and mountains and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of cool and like being alive and like

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<v Speaker 1>having benefits from my job.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you from North Philly?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from West Philly. I got I grow up right

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<v Speaker 1>next to the Man Music Center.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's where the fresh Prince of bel Araa grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to that same high school.

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<v Speaker 3>No, get the fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Overbrook High Is that where did.

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<v Speaker 3>Did Will Smith grow up? In West Philadelphia?

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<v Speaker 1>Like up the hill like a Overbrook area, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fifty ninth Street up that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah wow, Why.

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<v Speaker 1>That's too local. I'm going to get so micro.

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<v Speaker 3>God you get get b b as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Ship.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck was I gonna say?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when did you move to Colorado? Like recently?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, about two years ago, going on two years? Two years,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in October?

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<v Speaker 3>And so is life gooder in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 1>Much much more gooder? The cheese steaks are not more gooder,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything else just about more gooder?

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, why is why is it? Why is life complicated?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm banging my coworker.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're banging your coworker. Yeah, why is that complicated?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I thought about doing it for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>I to be honest, I was mad depressed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>started therapy and like taking meds at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and that's like now reached. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's culminating in this like hyper confidence. The other

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<v Speaker 1>day I was like I'm just go get her number,

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<v Speaker 1>and like we fucked like two days later.

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<v Speaker 3>I ask again, why is this complicated?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I see her like every day and like she

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<v Speaker 1>wants to like suck my dick at work.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>My problem is that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This feels weird to me, like I didn't necessarily expect

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<v Speaker 1>that this was going to happen, like if I I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think it would go as well as it has,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I expected it to be more weird. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for like the other like the other foot to drop.

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<v Speaker 3>If you know what I mean, what do you can ask?

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<v Speaker 3>What you what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I cook?

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<v Speaker 3>So like, yeah, I cook in a kitchen, yes, like

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<v Speaker 3>at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I cook it's in an institution.

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<v Speaker 3>You cook in an institution, Okay, all right, okay, but

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<v Speaker 3>you work in a kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Does she also work in the kitchen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, have you ever done anything with a coworker? Lot?

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<v Speaker 3>No, But I haven't really had co workers in a

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, That's fair. Yeah, I kind of not really

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<v Speaker 1>ever had co workers until I came out here because

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<v Speaker 1>I just used to do a bunch of like random

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<v Speaker 1>odd JANKI shit for money. So now it's like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't supposed to Like I'm still learning like corporate

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, like boleance and how to behave myself.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, well look look, look, look his I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a few things, right, It's like what this

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<v Speaker 3>job that you're at, It's just like it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>a thing that you do. You give a Do you

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<v Speaker 3>care about this job? Like, like do you care about

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<v Speaker 3>it beyond? Like this is just kind of what I

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<v Speaker 3>do for Like do you see like a long term

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<v Speaker 3>I care about this job. I care about being here.

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<v Speaker 3>I care about this being a very comfortable environment for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm planning my eggsit already.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, then have sex with your coworker who gives this shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I guess it was that simple. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I was kind of thinking that myself though, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good time, Like I planning on going

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<v Speaker 1>to school in January to get a certification so I

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<v Speaker 1>can like get the hell out of here in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few months. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, I don't know, I don't I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if I that's but that's kind of how I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like if I'm well, I won't say coworker, but

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<v Speaker 3>like if I'm in any let's say I've had places

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<v Speaker 3>in my life that I returned to frequently and I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to not have sex with anyone, uh, in those

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<v Speaker 3>places that I am at frequently, if these are locations, institutions, whatever, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>that I see myself having like long term relationships with right.

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<v Speaker 3>But if but if I'm like, but if you if

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<v Speaker 3>I were at a job that was like, I'm planning

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<v Speaker 3>my exit from this job actively, then I I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I would, you know, care, because it wouldn't be that,

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<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't feel I mean, even if it does feel

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<v Speaker 3>awkward or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's kind of fun too, like your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Is she having a good time?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so? Okay, everything I think everybody in Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>seems to just be constantly having a good time. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing serious about this. But that's like a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is she as she is? She like hinting that

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<v Speaker 3>she wants, like, uh, more than just to suck your

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<v Speaker 3>dick at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's it's just more variations of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I fear I may have unlocked something that

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<v Speaker 1>I might not be able to control.

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<v Speaker 3>Now in what sense, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that she was going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>this freaky if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean that's fine, But I guess like, is

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<v Speaker 3>she like does she like like she is she like wanting?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she like having sex with you? She wants you

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<v Speaker 3>to be like like eventually become her boyfriend. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think so okay, I don't know this doesn't this sounds

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<v Speaker 3>not that I think you would. You would probably know

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<v Speaker 3>if that was the case. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, so okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't know if this doesn't sound particularly complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's sick. I don't wanna.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna take up too much Marie of time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can go back and listening you can get from.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wait, where where? What are you? What are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to do when you leave the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty much gonna try and get my boss's job

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. Yeah, he runs the department that is the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>the dietary part of the of the institution. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a dort. He's a lot of a dirt Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this guy. I'm always like busting his balls

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling him how much of a fucking loser

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<v Speaker 1>he is and whatever. But I can't complain anymore, really,

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<v Speaker 1>because my plan now was to just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>do it in my own kitchen, run my own kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>the way I want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you think this guy is a dork?

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<v Speaker 1>He he lacks leadership qualities, but he's the leader. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a neo baby like his his wife's has a relative

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<v Speaker 1>or something that got him in the job because they

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<v Speaker 1>work there. Like, he doesn't even have the certification that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go to school for to get, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how you get that position. He's a NEPO baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a packers fan, a bunch more stuff. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just really yeah, he doesn't leave us. Well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>lost the locker room. When are you're coming back to Denver?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'll eventually come back

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<v Speaker 3>to Denver.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I always have a great time in Denver. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>to Denver like five or six times. I think I've

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<v Speaker 3>gone like every single year since twenty nineteen. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>great town, good place. I don't know. When are you

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<v Speaker 3>coming to What do you I don't I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a retort. What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy?

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy, Jimmy. Uh, you seem like an Jimmy. I have

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<v Speaker 3>fun with your life, Jimmy. It's very short, sorry to

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<v Speaker 3>say an existential thing. Good luck, Jimmy, are you hey?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>Lyle yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi hi hi uh hi Sorry, I was not actually

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<v Speaker 4>expecting that the work. I uh, my name is Beuford.

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<v Speaker 3>Beuford. What a name. That's a sick name. I like

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<v Speaker 3>that name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't really see that many people around with the

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<v Speaker 4>name Buford these days, like an ancient times name themes.

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<v Speaker 3>What a what a great name, Beuford? What's going on

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<v Speaker 3>in your life? Buford?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? Stuff, man, stuff, I'm long I've heard I know

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<v Speaker 4>you've heard this probably like a million times, but I've

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<v Speaker 4>been listening to you for about like two years now.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool awesome, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been definitely, uh, a big part of my day

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. I've been listening as much as a

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<v Speaker 4>late Sorry, there's a bunch of seagulls squawking around me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ford, You're you're you're more than al right, you're more

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<v Speaker 3>than all right. Yeah, No, I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Ship Here we.

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<v Speaker 4>Are, Yeah, yeah, we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess what I really wanted to talk about. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm walking to my car right now. I got people

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<v Speaker 4>in my room. I can't really get an eight piece

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<v Speaker 4>out here right now just because.

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<v Speaker 1>People.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I wanted to guess, what's been going on

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<v Speaker 4>in my life? Is I guess a lot of abandonment.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple months back, I was in a relationship for

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<v Speaker 4>about we'll say, like eight months, and I had a

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<v Speaker 4>decent friend group around here. And uh, this is after

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<v Speaker 4>I moved, I moved away from my home and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just been a little rough. But I lost the

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<v Speaker 4>girl and I've lost a lot of those friends. And

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<v Speaker 4>she was the only one who was around, so we

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<v Speaker 4>still kept hanging out. But it seems like, yeah, eventually

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<v Speaker 4>she's got tired of me too, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these last couple of weeks, Yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Something really important coming up. But it's been really hard

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<v Speaker 4>to focus on anything else other than you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>my life, well my life outside of my work.

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<v Speaker 3>What is what is this important thing coming up?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a test. I want to go into too

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<v Speaker 4>much detail, but it's a big test that will impact

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<v Speaker 4>what I do next. Basically if I make a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of money next or not. Uh, if I fail this test,

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<v Speaker 4>I got to basically start from scratch. If I passed

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<v Speaker 4>this test, I got some word stuff that I need

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<v Speaker 4>to do. But you know, I'll be able to move

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<v Speaker 4>forward at least. But there's something that's been looming over

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<v Speaker 4>me for I want to say a year and a

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<v Speaker 4>half now. So yeah, I've been kind of stuck in

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<v Speaker 4>this one place with this test looming over me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>towards the end of you know, the end of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>When I feel like I'm ready to take the test

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<v Speaker 4>and everything, everything just kind of starts, you know, crashing down.

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<v Speaker 4>In my personal.

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<v Speaker 3>Life, can ask how old you are?

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<v Speaker 4>I just turned twenty five?

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<v Speaker 3>Cool? Uh? And why did you Why did you lose

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<v Speaker 3>all your friends?

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<v Speaker 4>It's been going on for a while, but it's either

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<v Speaker 4>they move away or you know, they uh, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say a lot of cases they get into relationships

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<v Speaker 4>and uh yeah, it's like the typical bits like I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I want to hang out with you, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Sydney wants to go get groceries or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that, and that's obviously going to take the entire day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't call you, or I can't I can't like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sit on discord.

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<v Speaker 1>For a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I get it. And you know, when I was

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<v Speaker 4>in the relationship, I was to an extra kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like that, but you know, completely abandoning relationships with people

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<v Speaker 4>that I've known for like five years, like just losing

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<v Speaker 4>them just like, you know, am I the problem? Because

0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.960
<v Speaker 4>it seems like it's always happening to me. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>like whenever I ask or like you know, could bought

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<v Speaker 4>them about it, I'm just like, you know, why aren't

0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.720
<v Speaker 4>we talk as much? They're just like, yeah, you're a

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<v Speaker 4>great guy. You know, I love hanging out with you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just, you know, Tom moves on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, It's kind of a thing of life. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, here's the thing, man, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I relate to a lot of the stuff that you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have my own thoughts about it and and

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<v Speaker 3>I and I really can only approach the situation from

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<v Speaker 3>the way that I like to think about this ship,

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<v Speaker 3>in the way that I've approached it in my own life.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, some people like to talk about I

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<v Speaker 3>was told, you know, can I go on a rant

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<v Speaker 3>you for two seconds?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, please please?

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<v Speaker 3>I Okay. So I've been I've been going back to therapy,

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<v Speaker 3>and my therapist said, so I people might think I'm insane,

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<v Speaker 3>but whatever. My therapist said something to me where she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you got to learn how to be comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>being alone, and that fucking and I know what she

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<v Speaker 3>means when she says that. She means you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be okay with being alone because when you're okay with

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<v Speaker 3>being alone, you are then able to approach your life.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't say this, I inferred this, but when you're

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<v Speaker 3>okay with being alone, you are able to approach your

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<v Speaker 3>life with a greater sense of power than if you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>not okay with being alone. But I hate the notion

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<v Speaker 3>that you're supposed to be okay with being alone, or

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<v Speaker 3>that you're supposed to be happy being alone. I fucking

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<v Speaker 3>hate when people say that. Because human being, we are

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<v Speaker 3>biologically wired to not be okay with being alone. It

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<v Speaker 3>sucks to pretend that it doesn't, or to pretend that

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to be alone and be happy with that

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<v Speaker 3>and be okay with that is ridiculous. It's a ridiculous thing.

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<v Speaker 3>People might disagree with me, but we're biologically wired to

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<v Speaker 3>not be alone. That being said, I understand it's very

0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:09.480
<v Speaker 3>helpful to become comfortable with being alone so that you

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<v Speaker 3>can approach your life with power. And so I take

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<v Speaker 3>those two things and I look at this and I

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<v Speaker 3>look at it very logistically, because that's how I like

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<v Speaker 3>to look at the problems of my life and how I,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, do shit in my life. And I go, Okay,

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:31.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, you really inherently cannot rely on people because

0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:36.680
<v Speaker 3>they exist outside of your control. That's like the stoic thing.

0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:42.320
<v Speaker 3>And now stoicism can also be a certain form of avoidance.

0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.200
<v Speaker 3>And if you lean too heavily into it, and you

0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.000
<v Speaker 3>lean too heavily into that, you close yourself off to others.

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't want to do that. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>open yourself up to others and accept and understand that

0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.479
<v Speaker 3>they might fuck your shit, you know, and accept that

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<v Speaker 3>getting your shit fucked by others because you trusted them

0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.000
<v Speaker 3>is just a part of life. And you feel sad

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.640
<v Speaker 3>and you feel bad about it, but it's just hits

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you and you let it hit you. All that being said,

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I like to look at these things very logistically. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, in my life, when I've felt alone and

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<v Speaker 3>I've felt like I had like friends that were like

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<v Speaker 3>flaky on me or you know, relationships that didn't work

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<v Speaker 3>out or whatnot. I've kind of logistically gone, what can

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<v Speaker 3>I do to put myself in situation like this is

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<v Speaker 3>where you take your power back? Is you go, what

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<v Speaker 3>can I do to put myself in situations where I

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<v Speaker 3>am around people? And how do I empower myself to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to those people and to make those people want

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<v Speaker 3>to be around me and to be the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>person that other people want to be around. And I

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<v Speaker 3>approach this from like a logistical way, So yeah, I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>God no, I was gonna say, because yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>the exact same way when it comes to when it

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:29.040
<v Speaker 4>comes to just telling somebody be comfortable being alone. But

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<v Speaker 4>like the problem is I'm lonely, right, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you get to that point?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And I made attempts to Like where I'm at, its

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 4>kind of like, you know, it has a couple of

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 4>areas where I can just you know, kind of go

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<v Speaker 4>at and you know, it gets me out of the

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<v Speaker 4>room because one my roommate usually in the room, but

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four to seven. But also, yeah, I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to I don't like being in the room by myself. Anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>because now it's just like I'm sitting here and I'm

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.959
<v Speaker 4>thinking about all this stuff that it happened, and like

0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 4>what did I do wrong? Like why did I do this?

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 4>And you know, so I'm going out and trying to,

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, put myself into spaces, but now I'm finding

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 4>out that's like when I get into these spaces, I'm

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 4>still kind of alone because I'm like not really, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I don't know if I'm like scared now

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to anybody just because I've had so many

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 4>what lost relationships, or if like you know, nobody just

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<v Speaker 4>actually wants to speak to me. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I like look weird or you know something

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.440
<v Speaker 4>I think, don't think that's weird that I'm like five

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<v Speaker 4>foot nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>But well you can't, yeah, but you can't go Like

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of a lot of the like uh,

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.920
<v Speaker 3>internal being comfortable, being alone and stuff, as it does

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 3>piss me off, but then a lot of it has

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<v Speaker 3>like such deep truth to it, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 3>parts of it that have deep the parts of it

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 3>that have deep truth to it are the parts that

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<v Speaker 3>are how you perceive yourself. I don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I don't think how you perceive people say how

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 3>you how you perceive yourself as how other people perceive you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's a one to one translation at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's kind of bullshit. But how you perceive

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 3>yourself is like extremely important to how other people like

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 3>perceive you. So if you walk around being like, oh,

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 3>people don't want to be around me, people don't like me,

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.719
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah, all this stuff, even if you are

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.200
<v Speaker 3>five foot nothing, even if you are you know, whatever,

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 3>these things you think you are like, it will not

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 3>help you to have to carry that around. So that's

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 3>an important thing to attack, is like, yeah, that that

0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of negative like self image. Yeah. So and so

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 3>you have this big test coming up, and I think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. I mean, I think that obviously

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.199
<v Speaker 3>it makes a lot of sense that you're very like

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.640
<v Speaker 3>distracted by all of this ship going on in your

0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 3>personal universe, right, but uh, it sounds like the test

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 3>is very important to you, and like, you know, kinda

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 3>get it's it's maybe not forever, but it's okay to

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:47.160
<v Speaker 3>get on your fucking sigma male wolf meme, Uh, grind

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.199
<v Speaker 3>set for a bit and just be like, let me

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 3>fucking hone in on this test and let me, you know,

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 3>get my money up. Yeah, right, because because all these

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.360
<v Speaker 3>things feed into it each other, and money is important

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 3>because when you have money, when you have some money,

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 3>now you're like, Okay, I have some money, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 3>join a fucking you know thing of some kind now,

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 3>and then maybe I'll start going out to these places

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 3>and doing these things that you know cost money to do.

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.239
<v Speaker 3>But now now you have kind of a little bit

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.919
<v Speaker 3>of a foundation for you to like kind of start

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:28.360
<v Speaker 3>like ideal idea. In an ideal world, you're not knocking

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<v Speaker 3>on people's doors constantly to get them to want to

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 3>be around you. You're just strategically building a life where

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 3>you are naturally around people. And that's that to me,

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:44.199
<v Speaker 3>that's the best way to do it. And it's and

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 3>it's hard, but it's very but it's possible if you're

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 3>intentional about it. I believe, where do you live, not

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 3>like your address, but like what part of the town, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>part of America?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so right now, I'm in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>Well part of do you live like a city or

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<v Speaker 3>do you live.

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<v Speaker 4>In like, yeah, Cincinnati, Ohio?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Okay, this ship, this ship happening in Cincinnati, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm, yeah, it's uh yeah, Cincinnati. Uh what was it?

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<v Speaker 4>But right now I'm in uh sorry, right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in Cali.

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I live in Cincinnati.

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 4>All this stuff is happening in Cincinnati, but I'm in

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Cali for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is that where you're like from?

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I have family out here.

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, Yeah, when's when's your big when's your

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 3>big test?

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<v Speaker 4>My big test is Monday, oh ship. Yeah, so it's

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 4>pretty soon. But the thing is, I feel fine for

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 4>the test and I feel like confident about it that

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I had like a practice one a couple of months back,

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, I didn't do too well, but after, you know,

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 4>after grinding a little bit, I feel like I'm more

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 4>prepared for it. So we'll see how it goes this

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 4>next time. But and you know, if things don't work out,

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 4>it is.

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 2>What it is.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, I'm just I think I'm more ready

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 4>to just kind of be done with this part of

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 4>my life because I feel like I've been preparing for

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 4>this forever and it's been kind of keeping me from

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 4>addressing things and you know, kind of like getting into

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 4>anything new because I've been mainly focused on just trying

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 4>to do this.

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yes, yeah, you.

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 4>Pass or fail is going to be some sort of

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 4>a relief to where it feels like I'm going to

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 4>at least get back to a normal life and start

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 4>doing something different.

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I like that, and I felt that way about things

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 3>in my life constantly all the time. So and yeah,

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 3>it's on Monday, so I mean, yeah, you'll you'll probably

0:25:55.119 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 3>feel some kind of like reset after the fact. Anyway, Right,

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 3>there's this concept that I'm thinking about a lot of

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 3>like you know, I mean, there's no word for it,

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 3>but you know, I mean, people do this whole thing

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 3>where they're like once X, once X happens, then why

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 3>will happen? Or after why, I'll feel z or after

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like after this, I'll finally

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 3>feel this and that and the other thing. And sometimes

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 3>and that's I've lived a lot in my life like that.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes you are correct. People say, like you you know,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 3>there might be some fucking Instagram meme or a thing

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>that says you're always waiting to live your life, but

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it actually is true. Sometimes it is actually true that. Yeah,

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it is true that once you're over certain things,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 3>your life is different. What is what is pretty much

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>never true is that you live a life without any problems,

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 3>but you might objectively be living life with less intense

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 3>like I do believe in uh, there being a there

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 3>of some kind in some sense as to like how

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 3>we're like narratively structuring our lives. But you're still gonna

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 3>have problems.

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not like you're gonna burst into ethereal light after

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 3>this test is over. You still have to be in

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 3>your stupid human body and you still have to live

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 3>with your stupid human brain and all those things. But

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I say, sprint to the finish on the test,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I think I think it's cool. I

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>think it's I think it's good. But yeah, again, I

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 3>would just figure out how to kind of naturally build

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 3>your life that you're around people, and I would try

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>to be smart about it. And it's never been it's

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>never been easier to do that than now. And I

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 3>don't know what this test is for, what the job

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 3>is for. I you know, you don't have to tell

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 3>me if I guess it. But maybe it's like an

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 3>l stats thing or a fucking med thing or whatever.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Let's say it's a mad thing. But let's just say

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 4>it's a mad thing.

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, Well that's as far.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>As I'll go.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 4>I just don't want to I don't want to expose

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 4>myself out.

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 3>That's okay, that's okay, all right. Yeah, I mean you'll

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 3>take the test. It sounds like you're well prepared for it.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>I hope you do well. I hope you get this job.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 3>I hope you make this money that you need to

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 3>do these things. But yeah, I just would spend as

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 3>little time kind of dwelling on these things as possible

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 3>and as most most time, like being very strategic about

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 3>how you can build your life to be around other people.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 3>But by the way, it fucking sucks, you know, like

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>like the grief is the grief of like a breakup

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>or of like friends that you thought would be in

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 3>your life. Yeah, not being there's good. I like to

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>blend there's you know, I'm very interested in like blending

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 3>the two ideas, the like competing ideas. There's because there's

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 3>a very there's a like parts of my brain that

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>are like you know, the emotional ethereal ones that are

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>like you need to feel your feelings and you need

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 3>to you know, uh, feel your grief, and you need

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>to be comfortable with being alone, and you need to

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>this and and I think there's there's a ton of

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>validity to those things. But but also I want to

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 3>match them up with like, okay, but you also need

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 3>like logistically can empirically figure out and move you know,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>a pawns around a board to be like okay, But

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 3>how do I then fix these problems? Because I I

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>go to sometimes I go to therapy, and I like,

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's all about the feelings part of it.

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 3>And I just hate that because I think you need

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a little you need half of that, and then you

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 3>need a half of like okay, but what the fuck

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 3>are we gonna you know, do Yeah, anyway, sorry, there's

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 3>a whole rant.

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 4>But oh no, no, you're good, You're good. Yeah. I

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 4>actually was talking to somebody like a couple of weeks back,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 4>bringing up like the thing with grief. I never really

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 4>saw grieving with like actual relationships. I always just related

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 4>it to like, you know, death or you know, maybe

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 4>like I don't know, losing a friend or something like that.

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>But I never really thought of it as like a

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 4>grieving over a relationship because I think I definitely that

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 4>that also has impacted me a little bit too, because

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 4>around the time of that practice test is when things ended.

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I kept prolonging the relationship. But now

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 4>she's like completely gone. She's like in a totally different

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 4>place now, And yeah, it's been suck on my mind

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 4>because I feel like I did a lot and I

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 4>don't really understand as to why like things ended, especially

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 4>since she still wanted to be friends and just yeah,

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know why it had to end.

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 3>There was a lady in the in the previous podcast

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 3>where she was talking about how she got divorced, and

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 3>she was like she opened it up with being like,

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>you can do everything right and still uh get fucked.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, No, that's not that's not really comforting.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I think what was that The lady who

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 4>I think it was, she said her husband was like

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 4>doing cocaine or something like that.

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, that was fair.

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I remember that.

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, can do everything right but still get fucked.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 3>But also again it's like you, I just you see

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 3>you sound and I don't know if I don't want

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>to put words in your mouth, but you sound like

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 3>you have like a bad self image.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 4>You you'd be right, you'd be right. And why I

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 4>don't know I've based it off because.

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:23.959
<v Speaker 3>I know I did.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 4>There was a time I didn't feel like this. I

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 4>didn't feel like this, and I want to say it

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 4>was like early into high school. You know, I didn't

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 4>give it, Damn. I was just you know, I go home,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 4>I played pucking Super Mario my family, and I would

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 4>give a crap. Uss. I think it was around the

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 4>time when I started, like, you know, being forced to

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>get into like more social situations where it's like, you know,

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 4>my dad's over here forcing me to get a job,

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I started making friends and it's like,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>oh wow, I like this feeling of like actually hanging

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>out with people outside. You know, well, I'm gonna go

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 4>hang out with these dudes every day. And I think

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 4>it was like once I saw that they started getting

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 4>into relationships and that you know, they were moving on

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 4>with their lives and that I was, you know, kind

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 4>of still just working. Yeah, why do you think that?

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, God, go ahead, why do you so? I mean,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess like, in this moment, why do you feel

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 3>like you have bad like self image. I think.

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a comparison thing. It's it's definitely a

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 4>comparison thing, because yeah, I compare myself a lot to

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 4>other people, like you know, in my class, Like you know,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 4>walking around on campus, you see all these people you know,

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 4>with like a much of like four or five groups

0:33:55.240 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 4>of friends or you know, with girlfriends, and like, I'm

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 4>over here walking by myself over here now kind of

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 4>wishing I could talk to somebody. Yeah, you know, even

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 4>when I've given the opportunity, sometimes I just I get afraid,

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, cause I just don't really want to have

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 4>to be in that situation where it's like I made

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 4>a friend and now they're gone after like you know,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 4>two or three months. It's like I really got close

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 4>to this person and now they just leave my life

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 4>and I did all this stuff.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>What for.

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 3>The I mean, first of all, by the way, I know,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 3>you're comparing yourself to other people, but you're very much

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 3>not alone. This is like, honestly, probably, this is honestly

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 3>probably You're you're twenty five, so are we we're gen Z.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 4>Right, I think, yeah, yeah, gen Z.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I think I think this is a strong problem of

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 3>our generation in general, so you're not like you're not alone,

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Like you're like this idea that everybody else is out

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>at being amazing and you're the only one dealing with

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 3>this is not true?

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I remember being in college. I remember being in college

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 3>and anytime I was like in my dorm room, like

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 3>on a Friday night, I would always think I would

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 3>always feel like a loser, you know, if I was like, uh,

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, like not doing something. And then like I remember,

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, you see, I would walk around the dorm

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 3>and like you'd see a few other people who are

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 3>also in the dorm or like doing homework or some shit,

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and you you you realize that like, uh, not everyone.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 3>You realize that where you're uh looking is not a

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>sample size that's reflective of the entire population of the earth, right.

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, I get.

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I know I'm not the only person who like feels

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 4>that way. It's just always in the environment. And I

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 4>know it's like even then, like, I know, there's probably

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.919
<v Speaker 4>another person who's walking around that maybe feels that way.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 4>I guess maybe I'm just not focused on them.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 3>It could be, yeah, but but but I don't even

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't even I don't even think you should be

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 3>focused on anyone but your yourself in this sense, and

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 3>like what you want and what you and what you

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>what you want is to is you want community, you

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 3>want friends, and you want a girlfriend. And the way

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I think to get those things.

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Is to.

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 3>It's probably some it's probably some combination of a developing

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 3>a better like image of yourself and then but that's

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>that's its own can of worms to be opened. But

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 3>that's like one of the pillars. And then B is

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 3>like logistically going like, okay, where is a place that

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I can go to regularly once, two, three times a

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 3>week where it's not like because you know, when like

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 3>you fucking like meet someone and like you like, certain

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 3>friendships require active effort for you to see each other

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 3>right and develop a thing. And that's uh. I always

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 3>feel like that fails five times out of ten or

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 3>six or seven because it just requires too much active effort.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Whereas if you're in a thing or you've created a

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 3>thing where you're just all you have to do is

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 3>show up and people are there and you just keep

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>showing up and everyone just kind of naturally gathers. Like

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 3>that's what real community is. It's rarer and rarer to

0:37:54.960 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>find it, but it exists out there for those willing

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:05.879
<v Speaker 3>to go find it and willing to like uh find out,

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 3>or or for those willing to create it. So it exists.

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, that's my advice is I think that

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna approach your friendships from a point of like,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, oh, maybe I meet someone and like we

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 3>regularly schedule a hangout once a week or so, they

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 3>it just it's just like hard, whereas like the easiest

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 3>thing to do, the easy way, easier way to approach

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 3>it is like, Okay, what are spaces I can regularly

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 3>show up to? Because when I'm regularly showing up to

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 3>those places, these things occur naturally as opposed to requiring

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>like this this effort. I mean, I look, man, I

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I you know, for a while, I mean I do,

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't. I don't have coworkers, you know,

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that I like see every day, you know, I work,

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, I do this podcast, I work from home.

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 3>I do my own little weird side, you know, I

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 3>do my little projects, and like, you know, I'm kind

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 3>of you know, uh, and and that was that was

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 3>really hard for me for a while. And then I

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I joined, like, I joined a coworking space that I

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 3>go to and now I like I show up at

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 3>this place like almost every day to like sit and

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 3>do my you know, my make my videos and do

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 3>these things. And and as a result of doing that,

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 3>I've like met a lot of people and made a

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 3>lot of friends very naturally, you know, and it's been great.

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 3>It's been like a huge life change and to find

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 3>an environment like that, And so I think everyone needs

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 3>some kind of environment like that where they that allows

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 3>for the serendipity and the natural connection of you know,

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 3>meeting with people and you and it's it's available and

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 3>it's a a a it's if you live in a

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 3>major city of some kind, it's available to you and

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 3>be if it's not, you can make it. So I

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know what you I don't know what you like.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you're what you like outside of

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 3>taking tests, I do well.

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 4>I love Nintendo games. I know you've talked about Super

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 4>Smash Bros.

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>A lot. I used to go to.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Smash It's pretty often. Oh yeah, music, Yeah, I've gotten

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 4>into writing, and you know, I want to get into

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 4>like kind of making my own music. Eventually at some

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 4>point like learning how to like play the piano or

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 4>something like that. Or yeah, maybe go to a bar,

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 4>pull out of harmonica and start spit it or something

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's my Okay, I'm going to end our conversation

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 3>by like I don't usually do this, but here's my

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 3>like concrete actual advice capital A. This is capital A advice. Okay,

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 3>if I were you this, how would structure my life?

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 3>As I would? First of all, I would I would

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>after you get on the off the phone with me,

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 3>I would spend the next forty eight hours studying as

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 3>hard as you can for this test and truly surrendering

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 3>to not think about anything else. And then you take

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 3>this test. And then when you I don't know if

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna stay in California, if you're gonna go back

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 3>to Cincinnati. But if you go back to Cincinnati, you

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 3>fucking go on meetup dot com or you go on

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Facebook or your search and you find a writer's group

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 3>or a fucking smash tournament or a jam session. And

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 3>if you and you go and you just show up

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 3>to that once a week and and I think I

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 3>already really did this on the podcast before but whatever,

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 3>you you show up and the first uh time, second time,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 3>third time, maybe fourth, fifth, sixth time you show up,

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna feel super weird and alienated from everyone, Like

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna you're gonna go in, but you're gonna go

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 3>in understanding and accept that that's how you're going to

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 3>feel the first four or five six times you show up.

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 3>But you still go because eventually you'll, like it's supposed

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>to feel that way when you first show up, but

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 3>then eventually you acclimate yourself and if none of those

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 3>things exist, you start your own. So that's what I

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 3>would suggest that you do, because I think you'll unlock

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 3>a new little kind of pathway that you didn't really

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 3>because you want to find this community and then you

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to just be like a background character

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 3>in it. You want to find a way to add

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 3>value to it. So if it's like a writing group,

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, fucking you know, give, give, raise your hand

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 3>when they're asking for the crits, or or give or

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 3>or give or share the work or just do something

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 3>to kind of you know, force yourself to be seen.

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's that's my advice.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 4>That's that's really good advice that's actually really in the place.

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I hope you take it. Let me know if you do.

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 3>It would make me very happy to hear that you

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 3>took it and it worked out well for you. So

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>good luck. What's your name again, Beauford? How did I

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 3>forget that? Buford is a good name?

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, le This means a lot. I actually did

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 4>not think I was gonna get on the phone with

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 4>you like ever in my life.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>So thank you.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Thank you of course, man. I appreciate you sharing your

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 3>your your time and your vulnerability with us. Is there

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 3>anything else you want to say to the people of

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 3>the computer before we go.

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Just everyone have an amazing day, and I don't know,

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 4>eat a bag of chips.

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Eat your favorite chip or something beautiful. Hey, take care

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 3>of you for good luck.

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, le bye.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Those Buford Beufford is a good guy. Uh, this is

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 3>this is totally a I know, I know that that's

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 3>a topic that is like we've covered a lot on

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 3>this show. Yeah, I think everyone feels that way. I've

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 3>felt that way significantly throughout my life, you know, not

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 3>just and throughout different epochs of my life, you know,

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 3>throughout sometimes in college, sometimes as like an adult, sometimes uh,

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, and so I don't know. I think I've

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>like kind of uh figured out ways to ways to

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 3>do that, and I think people have like a kind

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 3>of wrong approach to it that's very based on like

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to meet a person and we're going to

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 3>meet for lunch once a week or something. It's just

0:44:50.400 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 3>too it's not natural, I guess in that way. Okay, Hello, Hi, Kjoe. Hi,

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 3>what's your name. I'm Jess, Jess. What's up, Jess? Have

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 3>we uh, have we ever spoken before?

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 5>We never have. I called in a bunch of times,

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 5>but this is the first time.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh, wonderful, wonderful. Well, what's up, Jess. What's going on

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 3>with you?

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm just thrilled to be on the phone with you.

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm just.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm here on this. I'm in southern California and I've

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 5>been dying to talk to you forever, hanging out with

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 5>my boyfriend. He's heard me call into your show a

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 5>bunch of times.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 3>M hm, Well, Louie, let me ask you this. I

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 3>guess to start off our conversation, was there anything in

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 3>particular that you wanted to call in to talk about.

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 3>It's okay if not, no, I don't.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't think, so get into whatever what you got

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 5>going on today?

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh? What do I got going on today? I don't know.

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I could blab about myself, but I'm I don't. I

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 3>don't have a lot about myself to blab, to be honest,

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 3>right now, I mean, I mean, look, you know you

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 3>uh you said you've called into the show multiple times

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 3>and you listen to the show and you've heard people,

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 3>uh you know, start to just talk about their lives

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 3>and what's going on. And have you ever at any

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 3>point during that thought about what you might want to

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 3>talk about were you to be on the show.

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I sure have. I think I thought about because

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.919
<v Speaker 5>I know it's we're on this whole existential kick.

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to be. We don't have to be.

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm letting you know, we don't have to be. We

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 3>don't have to be. We can be, we can be,

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 3>we also can be, just letting you know. Anyway, go ahead.

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I don't I don't think I really want to be.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 5>But what I've thought about through all of these all

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 5>of these like deep things, is just also to talk

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 5>about like the beauty of life, because you know, we

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 5>can talk about all these like deep things about like

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 5>what does it mean? And I thought about maybe what

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 5>it all means is just to be able to see

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 5>like the sun rise and like to feel the beauty

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 5>of it, and like maybe none of it means anything.

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm actually to be honest, I'm actually over

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 3>my existential kick, which is it feels great. I love it.

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:43.479
<v Speaker 3>I I normal life is nice. I hate I don't.

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I hate thinking about uh so well, I get existential

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 3>thinking about how many people there are in the world.

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:55.359
<v Speaker 3>That makes me existential. But I'm over it. It led

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 3>to nothing. That's the craziest part is that, I mean

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 3>I got definitely like I get to make some stuff

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 3>out of it, and I got some good conversations out

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 3>of it, and I think.

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 4>That maybe that's the point.

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's I don't know if there

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 3>was ever a point, but it was. That's a nice

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 3>it was. That was a nice aftershock to it is that,

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 3>uh you know, it was nice nice. You know, I

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:27.399
<v Speaker 3>felt something deeply and that's nice to do. But uh,

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't care, you know, I don't care anymore.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, I walk into a store and I

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 3>buy a bottle of soda and I walk out, and

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I think about like my actual life. You know, I'm

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 3>not I'm I'm not thinking about existential stuff anymore. I'm

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 3>just kind of, like, you know, trying to live. I mean,

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I kind of think about exsistential I mean, do you

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 3>do you think about existential stuff? You know what?

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 5>I've thought about existential stuff forever, like since I was

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 5>like fifteen, and then I ended up at the point

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 5>that maybe maybe I'll never figure it out, but then you.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Will. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm interrupting you. I'm terrible

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 3>at doing this now. But you you, you never will

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 3>figure it out. That's the whole point, is there.

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 3>You know that's fucking what's his face? All the philosophers

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 3>and science people they never figured it out. So exactly,

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry I interrupted you. I shouldn't interrupted you. What

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 3>were we saying?

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 5>But I think we can like think all day about,

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, whatever life means, but.

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 2>End of day we.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 5>Still end up like with these beautiful little interactions that

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 5>we have at the store or over the phone, are

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, with our parents, our boyfriend's grandma or fucking

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 5>who knows, But it's all just as beautiful. We just

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 5>gotta find the point in that, and I think that's

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 5>what i've sometimes.

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometimes, Yeah, No, No, I don't think everything is

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 3>uh beautiful and amazing all the time. Sorry you call

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 3>with Jess your name, your name is Jess. I'm just sorry.

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I I always show up to this thing as I am,

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.280
<v Speaker 3>which if that is upsetting to people, I I that's fine,

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't. I don't think everything is beautiful

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 3>all the time, but they I don't think it should be,

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, like, uh, sometimes it's okay for like things

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 3>to just be normal, Like going to the d m

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 3>V isn't beautiful, And it's sometimes beautiful and amazing. But

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I think if you're if you're feeling I think if

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you're feeling that really powerfully, if you're like, oh, look

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 3>at these people and wow, this is psychedelic, I don't. Yeah,

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I can do that sometimes, but you don't want to

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 3>do that all the time because that's too it's just

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 3>too much, you know, at least for me, it feels too.

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 3>It feels too much.

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Isn't there isn't there power in the mundane? Like isn't

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 5>there something nice? Like even if it's not like, oh man,

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 5>this is like so beautiful. But I mean at least, like,

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 5>can you find beauty in the little things in life?

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You can. I mean sure, yeah, you can find

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 3>beauty and everything. But I sometimes, uh, sometimes it's okay

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 3>to just go you know, sometimes it's okay to just

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 3>go to the bank. If you got to go to

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:32.799
<v Speaker 3>the bank, you know, I.

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 5>Mean hell yeah. But this that's finding like the beauty

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 5>and the little things is what has cured my existentialism.

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:45.479
<v Speaker 3>I think, good, good, I'm good. I'm glad that that

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.359
<v Speaker 3>that that's been good. Good for you?

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, Well what have solved the such existentialism for you?

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:03.959
<v Speaker 3>The the march of time forward? And I mean also

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I have like just uh, I mean I don't know, Vexus,

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's been solved, but you know, yeah,

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 3>just a march forward of time and uh you know,

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 3>yeah time.

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.840
<v Speaker 5>Just knowing that it's all gonna happen no matter what.

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 5>That's what's pushing forward.

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know if there isn't it, well

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:40.879
<v Speaker 3>like it's all going to happen. But what But what's

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 3>what's your life like, Jess, what do you got going

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 3>on in your in your regular life?

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, my regular life. Well, I'm unemployed, which maybe that

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 5>helps all of this. But I live with my amazing

0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 5>partner of almost eight years. I'm twenty six now, so

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 5>we've been together since I'm eighteen, and we live like

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 5>coastal southern California, and yeah, he works. I stay at home.

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 5>I just do some like dinners. Maybe I'm like the

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:19.239
<v Speaker 5>bottomized but.

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Have a good time.

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Why do you, well, why do you say you're lo

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 3>bottomized girl?

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 5>Because I'm just like a you know, stay at home girlfriend.

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm almost eight years.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean do you do you? I mean, do

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 3>you like life?

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 5>I love life?

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 3>That's great. Why do you say you're Why do you

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 3>think you're lo bottomized?

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Then?

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I don't know a girl, because I'm a girlfriend

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 5>of eight years, so maybe I should be married?

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Question mark, do you want to be married.

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<v Speaker 5>So bad?

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<v Speaker 1>So bad? Loyle?

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<v Speaker 3>Then then what's stopping you from getting married?

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:09.359
<v Speaker 5>Well, my boyfriend's listening to the stream, so that's that's

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 5>the reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean, what's the What is the difference between

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 3>what you got going on right now and being married?

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because you lived together and you, I

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 3>mean you already have a life together.

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 5>And by the state of California. We're what is this like, not.

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Legally married, but domestic partnership.

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 5>Domestic partnership, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>We go mm hmm, yeah, I don't know.

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 5>It's just something there. I don't know. I could never

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 5>figure it out what exactly that is.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>What do I think about whether or not you should

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<v Speaker 3>get married?

0:54:58.160 --> 0:54:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>That and then what do you think it is that

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 5>little like itch in my brain that tells me, well,

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:05.439
<v Speaker 5>I know you're a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well this isn't What do I think is the

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 3>little itch in your brain that tells you, that tells

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<v Speaker 3>you what?

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<v Speaker 5>Do they want to be married so badly?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do I think you want to I don't. I

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know if I can answer why I think you

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.359
<v Speaker 3>want to get married? Why do you think you want

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 3>to get married? Why do you why do you think

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<v Speaker 3>you want to get married?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, because I want a big wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, who's what Your boyfriend's in the other room

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 3>watching the stream? Yeah, well why should tell him you

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:43.760
<v Speaker 3>want to get married?

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:45.840
<v Speaker 5>I told you?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we're just saving up money. It's exceptive here in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh what to have a big ass wedding, Not a big.

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 5>Ass you know, do something, but to have a wedding. Yeah,

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 5>M it's expensive, You're just in California. Just in general, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A legitimate reason. I mean yeah, I uh, it sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like you want. I mean you can want, you have,

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 3>you can have a little party.

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I can tell yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, It'll happen in time. I'm at peace

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:31.280
<v Speaker 5>with that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Jess, Jess, let me ask you this, is there

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.919
<v Speaker 3>any uh is there anything else that you really want?

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I want to give you whatever you really wanted out

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 3>of this conversation before we go. I want to make

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 3>sure I gave you whatever you really wanted out of

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 3>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>M what thin I want out of this? Let's see, No,

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<v Speaker 5>Because I think I have called into the show a

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 5>bunch of times, like looking at a sunset kind of

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:05.320
<v Speaker 5>thinking about like or as sunrise, I mean, thinking about

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 5>like how beautiful things are, and like I've come to

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 5>the point where I've accepted but maybe nothing means nothing,

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.240
<v Speaker 5>all of this not maybe all of this means nothing,

0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 5>And like I've accepted that, and I've here, I've heard

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:28.920
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people kind of like lament about like Okay.

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 2>What does this mean?

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 5>And where are we going? And like maybe what is this?

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 5>Like maybe like pot, maybe what I'm thinking is like

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 5>nihilism and that maybe all of this maybe it means

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 5>nothing but to enjoy like a sunset or the birds chirping,

0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 5>or like watching your dog play around. So I guess

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 5>I wanted your take on that, but I think you've

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 5>he's kind of giving me that, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, well, why do you want my take on that?

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 3>That's your own epiphany? That's a very pretty that what

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 3>you're talking you want you want you're asking my take

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 3>on your personal.

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because yeah, because I've heard like a lot of

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 5>people's takes on this.

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 3>My well, truthfully, just my take on what you just

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 3>said is that you uh arrived at your own personal

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 3>uh journey.

0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 3>My take is is of nothing to you your Do

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 3>you think your your go ahead?

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that everyone's this this feeling that like

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 5>you and many of these other colors? Do you think

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 5>where a lot of these people are at? Is it

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 5>all like a personal journey and everyone has to reach

0:58:58.880 --> 0:58:59.920
<v Speaker 5>their own epiphany?

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if everyone, Yeah, I think so, I think, yeah,

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 3>everyone kind of reaches their own epiphany and you know,

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 3>your God and your whatever, uh, the the champion of

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 3>your own universe. So yeah, I mean, who gives a

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 3>fuck what I think about you know, your personal ephany,

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 3>it's your personal epiphany, you know what I mean. Like,

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 3>if that's how you feel about the world and that

0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 3>makes you feel good and that feels aligned with you,

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 3>then that's that's. Uh, that's that's that's that's you. And

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I know you're about to say something nice to me,

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 3>but I I okay, sorry, okay, then please then please

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 3>please tell me, Please tell me the thing, like, wow.

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:57.200
<v Speaker 5>I've been on your journey of this existentialism and so

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 5>like I don't I don't know how much a funk

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:04.800
<v Speaker 5>I give about anyone else, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 5>thought it'd be nice to hear your how you've reached

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<v Speaker 5>like the end, not end, but like kind of a

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<v Speaker 5>conclusion to this existentialism.

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<v Speaker 3>I have I have I haven't. I haven't reached a

1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 3>conclusion to this existentialism. I'll reach a conclusion when I die.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean I'm like, I'm not, I'm not you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not yeah, I'm not like, uh, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in a little bit of dread. I I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's good.

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<v Speaker 5>There's beauty in it. That means you're alive.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, man, I don't I don't know. I don't know, Jess,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I guess, I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>But it fucking sucks, but you're in it, so like

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.920
<v Speaker 5>there's something good. At least you get to be live

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<v Speaker 5>and doing it and then you find beauty and the

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<v Speaker 5>people you talk to, like out in the street or

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Some Well when I said sometimes, I mean some when

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<v Speaker 3>I said sometimes, I mean sometimes sometimes I just pick

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<v Speaker 3>my nose and eat it and it's not beautiful and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just you know, it's no, it's not even a hell. Yeah,

1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:20.440
<v Speaker 3>it's just I just it's just what it what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But you like it. I don't even know if I

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 3>like it. I attribute nothing to it. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just the day and so like to you know, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>today is just what like you know, that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>mean sometimes you know that's why.

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<v Speaker 5>Why why isn't it always a hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I mean I picked my nose and eat it too,

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<v Speaker 5>And then and.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's and if it's a hell yeah for you,

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<v Speaker 3>then it's all hell yeah for you. Well listen, jet

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, go.

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<v Speaker 5>Ahead, No, no, I was just gonna say, hell, you

1:01:57.040 --> 1:02:01.040
<v Speaker 5>had a notice picking and eating it. I guess whatever

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:02.400
<v Speaker 5>your fucking thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>Well listen, Jess, Is there anything else you want to

1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:12.120
<v Speaker 3>say to the people of the computer before we go there?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure is it? But thanks for talking.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a going jest.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye bye, you take care?

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<v Speaker 1>Bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, what's that man?

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<v Speaker 1>You doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good man? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all right?

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<v Speaker 3>How's life?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's been tough the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>You said it's been good. No, it's been tough, tough

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<v Speaker 3>t u f F Yes, sir, Wait no, t t

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<v Speaker 3>no t u f F is the good, tough, the bad,

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<v Speaker 3>toughest o U g H Yes, sir, it's been tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Why has it been tough?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so A year and a half ago, I broke

1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:09.480
<v Speaker 2>my neck and uh I was quite aprillegiate now and

1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:16.280
<v Speaker 2>uh just the the recovery has been been a struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, ironically, much like your previous caller, I don't

1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:33.200
<v Speaker 2>know for some reason, all my friends left me. I

1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:37.200
<v Speaker 2>had I had one friend who would visit me in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital out of all my friends. Uh, you know,

1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:45.360
<v Speaker 2>my parents passed away a few years ago, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have family or you know, immediate family. I do

1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.600
<v Speaker 2>have cousins, aunts and uncles, but none of them can

1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:57.120
<v Speaker 2>die to visit me in the hospital. So yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been hearing and just over and all by myself. Uh, Lyle,

1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate your streams. They do get me through

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<v Speaker 2>the day whenever you do streams, So thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but uh, yeah, just want want to let all

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<v Speaker 2>the other listeners know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess just try to plan as many good seeds

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<v Speaker 2>as you can. Try to have a lot of good friends,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But I guess don't expect he just depend

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<v Speaker 2>on yourself. Yeah, hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Well kind of like I was saying to uh our

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<v Speaker 3>boy Beuford earlier. Uh, it's hard. This is a hard

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<v Speaker 3>like the stoicism and that you can only depend on

1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:04.200
<v Speaker 3>yourself thing is Uh, it's actually it's actually been a

1:05:04.200 --> 1:05:06.800
<v Speaker 3>core value of mine, I think for a while in

1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:09.959
<v Speaker 3>my life and recently as I've gotten older, I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>come to reevaluate it, because I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a it's a it's a belief that I

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<v Speaker 3>I poking prad at a little bit because it's somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>avoidant in a bad way, but it's also it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those things that you believe and you

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<v Speaker 3>hold close because you don't want to get hurt, and

1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:42.040
<v Speaker 3>it protects you from getting hurt, but it also uh

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<v Speaker 3>closes you off. I mean, that's what every song is about,

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<v Speaker 3>is it not? Every song is about like I won't

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<v Speaker 3>I won't let you in because you'll hurt me. What's song?

1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:56.760
<v Speaker 3>What's that's what That's what I got a feeling by

1:05:56.760 --> 1:06:03.160
<v Speaker 3>the Black Eyed Peas is about. I think that's deff.

1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:06.720
<v Speaker 3>That's what the Pledge of Allegiance is about. That's what

1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:15.000
<v Speaker 3>that's what the Simpsons theme is about. But anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of again, it's one of those beliefs that I

1:06:17.120 --> 1:06:19.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of poking product and uh, I think it has

1:06:19.720 --> 1:06:25.680
<v Speaker 3>its time and place that's valuable, and then when it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>But hmm, what is your name? I'm sorry I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>your name.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanley.

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<v Speaker 3>Stanley, how long have you been in the hospital?

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<v Speaker 2>For so, I was in the hospital for two months

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<v Speaker 2>and then I've been not been discharged for what would

1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:54.120
<v Speaker 2>discharge stance h mid to lie. I've been discharged since

1:06:54.240 --> 1:07:01.960
<v Speaker 2>last July. I've been able to walk walk pretty okay

1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:05.200
<v Speaker 2>now when you know, a little wobbly, but.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just pushing through, you know. Yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>so thankful that I'm able to recover from this as

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<v Speaker 2>much as possible. You know, I've met a wonderful bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of wonderful uh friends while I was at the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>and so many of them have it so much worse

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<v Speaker 2>than I do. So whenever I'm having a bad day,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just I just remember my friends from

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital and just you know, just just try to

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<v Speaker 2>have a good day. But yeah, you know, every every

1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:49.000
<v Speaker 2>day has the challenges.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how we so, how is like physical therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>Going?

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<v Speaker 2>Physical physical therapy was great? You know, if any of

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners are peet or ots man, y'all are true

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<v Speaker 2>true angels. Because physical therapists and occupational therapists like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for them to have so much patience and also teach

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<v Speaker 2>just have such a great attitude, you know, that really

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<v Speaker 2>helps us to want to be there and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give it our all and just you know, keep you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keep pushing through and keep going. Every day for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us, that hour of work two that we're

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<v Speaker 2>at PT, that's all the social interaction we get, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So so that's that's another thing with therapists, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, they're doing the physical stuff, but honestly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're also like therapists truly. So again, if any of

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners are pets and ots, you know, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you able to, like do you have like a

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<v Speaker 3>recovery timeline of some sort. Do they give you a

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<v Speaker 3>timeline of you know, when they think you'll be able

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of be a little bit more mobile.

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<v Speaker 2>So they say everybody is different, but I feel I

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<v Speaker 2>feel pretty al right being able to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>myself now. It's just you know, I'm still will be

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<v Speaker 2>weak in the hands and you know up her body.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, when I'm walking, my balance is an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I try to keep a good attitude

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<v Speaker 2>and just try to do things. You know, in mine,

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<v Speaker 2>I try to tell myself to just do things without

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that I'm you know, I'm injured, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>try to move, Just try to move normally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or like you know, think like don't think that I'm injured.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just do the task. So that kind of helps,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's interesting, Like uh like wait, that's so

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<v Speaker 3>interesting that almost that it's actually kind of funny to

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<v Speaker 3>hear you say that, because that almost like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to Buford about about the whole like

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<v Speaker 3>uh self, like like the uh self image is a

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<v Speaker 3>reflection of how other people see you type ship. It's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of funny that. It's kind of funny that that

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<v Speaker 3>they that works on like a mental sense, but it

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<v Speaker 3>also works on like a physical sense, like the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the they were telling you like just fucking believe

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<v Speaker 3>that you're not injured and you just aren't. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy, right, Yeah, you had the minus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a powerful tool, as they say, so yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, uh, I also have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little dog, you know. She helps keep my spirits up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh cute, what kind of what kind of dog?

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<v Speaker 2>So she's a Wiener Jack Russell mixed. She'll be ten

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<v Speaker 2>this oh yeah, in a couple of weeks. She'll be

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<v Speaker 2>ten on October first, m M yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm. What do you do day to day in

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital, do you or no, you've been discharged, so

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<v Speaker 3>are you are you working or are you going to school?

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<v Speaker 2>So right now I'm just trying to heal as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I can. I'm looking to maybe start putting out

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<v Speaker 2>applications again beginning next year, you know, with my hands

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<v Speaker 2>still being kind of weeded, and also I can't move

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<v Speaker 2>them like how I would like to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>move them. My right hand's pretty okay, but my left ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not so much a claw, but I can't I

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<v Speaker 2>can't lay my hands flat, so it would be really

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<v Speaker 2>it's really difficult for me to type. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, typing is one really important thing in

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<v Speaker 2>the job, uh for jobs. So yeah, but we'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm hmmm mm hmmmm. What else? Uh? What else

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<v Speaker 3>have you been doing to bide your time?

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<v Speaker 2>I try to go hiking a little bit. But other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, you know, I just sleep. I try to

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<v Speaker 2>do you know, little tasks here and there around the house,

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<v Speaker 2>like doing the laundry, trying to fold the clothes, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to cook a little bit here and there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just clean up the house a little bit y. But

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's a lot of sleeping, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's pretty much therapy.

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<v Speaker 3>What do they what do they tell you in therapy?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they tell you anything helpful?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we just talk about lives. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about the game, We'll just Yeah, whenever I

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<v Speaker 2>have questions about my health and about my recovery, again,

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<v Speaker 2>their answer is always, you know, we don't know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's different, so you know, I just I just go

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<v Speaker 2>along with it. Do the do the exercises?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they give you any pain killers?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm so fortunate that I never had any pain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got so lucky with that. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>because my nerves are so messed up now because below

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<v Speaker 2>my below my you know, my waist, I lost all sensation.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so, so I can imagine that that really sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>especially before trying to pass the time by. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, there's no pain, but they do have

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<v Speaker 2>me on a whole bunch of muscle relaxers.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>What are your plans or hopes for the future and

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<v Speaker 3>in general.

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<v Speaker 2>The great question kick, Well, I hope I'll able to

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<v Speaker 2>uh at the lower body strength to go hiking again.

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<v Speaker 2>Before my injury, I was out hiking every day. So

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I can be out there again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>road tripping, uh, just traveling and yeah, being able to

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<v Speaker 2>find you know, just a decent job, you know, nothing crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I felt so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a bull edged sword, I guess, But

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<v Speaker 2>in this sense, I was so happy that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>married and had kids because, you know, me getting sucked

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<v Speaker 2>up like this. I mean, could you imagine, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not able to support my wife and kids because

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<v Speaker 2>because of my accident, you know. Yeah, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, but at the same time, not having a

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<v Speaker 2>wife and kids, you know, I'm so alone, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't have so much to help me with

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<v Speaker 2>this recovery. So again, it's a double edged sword.

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<v Speaker 3>But is that something you you are hopeful for for

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<v Speaker 3>the future.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm I'm such a realist, you know, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's going to be hard for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's no there's no girl out there thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let me let me go and find a quadriplegic right

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<v Speaker 2>to spend the rest of my life with right, So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I totally get that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, dude, I will hold on. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>let me say that there are you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you ever, I don't know if you ever

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<v Speaker 3>have been on the dating apps, but there are other

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<v Speaker 3>women in wheelchairs on the dating apps for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That could be kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not wrong. While but yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it happens, it happens, you know, I would I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to be married someday. But I'm not uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>being single. Okay. Like I said, I do have my dog,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not completely alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mm hmm. How about you? Lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you dating? What's up with you? Me?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm crazy, man, I'm uh I go, I go to

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<v Speaker 3>the park and uh I'll see I'll see someone beautiful,

1:17:25.960 --> 1:17:28.599
<v Speaker 3>and I'll be like and I'll walk away, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be like, I'm gonna I'm gonna go eat a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'll do. Uh what about me? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have dreams and wants and desires and uh frustrations

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<v Speaker 3>about my dreams and wants and desires that coexist with

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<v Speaker 3>UH optimism. So my frustration and my optimism co exists

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<v Speaker 3>in a bit of a beautiful harmony with each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and they drive me forward to uh uh not die,

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<v Speaker 3>not want to die, and to you know, keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a weird it's a it's a it's a like

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<v Speaker 3>a yin and yang. The optimism and frustration that I

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<v Speaker 3>feel is like a like a little ball that uh

1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:25.559
<v Speaker 3>drives the car of my existence forward. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>hope hopefully, you know, uh and they you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>I've I've had periods of my life with that were

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<v Speaker 3>about ninety five percent frustration slash apathy and five percent optimism,

1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:44.520
<v Speaker 3>and then times that have been ninety five percent optimism

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<v Speaker 3>and five percent frustration. And they're both there. Both of

1:18:48.120 --> 1:18:52.799
<v Speaker 3>those things are are as as you know, as a realist,

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<v Speaker 3>both of those things are dangerous. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be you don't want to be too apathetic and frustrated,

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<v Speaker 3>but you don't want to be uh uh blindly optimistic

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<v Speaker 3>to the fact that you'll never experience anything bad ever again.

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<v Speaker 3>So right, yeah, I don't know, that's that's that's I

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<v Speaker 3>guess my answer of what's going on with me?

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<v Speaker 1>All?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you play video games?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I used to be my accident, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my hand. Yeah, yeah, but but uh yeah, yeah I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching a lot of Netflix and yeah yeah HBO,

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<v Speaker 2>Max Peacock. I just been running through a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>shows that I've also already watched.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you said, I mean, I know you're like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dealing with like loneliness in general, Like, do

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<v Speaker 3>you you know I think that Yeah. Normally, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's best to like go out in person to like

1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:03.280
<v Speaker 3>meet people hang out with people. But if you can't

1:20:03.360 --> 1:20:06.920
<v Speaker 3>do that, I mean, there is a lot of great

1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:11.720
<v Speaker 3>communities on discord and Reddit and Twitch that you can

1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:14.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, be a part of. I mean, look, there's

1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:17.320
<v Speaker 3>people hanging out of my Twitch chat right now. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you do you take advantage of any of that?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not.

1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Mm, yeah, you should consider it, you know. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't have the means to, you know, leave

1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:31.960
<v Speaker 3>your house right now. I think it's a good thing

1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:33.600
<v Speaker 3>to look into. But it's also nice because, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>once you're feeling better and more mobile. I mean, I

1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:38.800
<v Speaker 3>know a lot of people I have friends who you know,

1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:40.800
<v Speaker 3>have met and you know, people who listen to this

1:20:40.800 --> 1:20:44.839
<v Speaker 3>podcast I'm sure who have met people in like Reddit

1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:49.280
<v Speaker 3>or discord or Twitch and uh, you know, or like

1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:53.599
<v Speaker 3>online means and have then actually, you know, through those

1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:58.519
<v Speaker 3>online means, gone on to create like genuine you know,

1:20:58.640 --> 1:21:01.880
<v Speaker 3>friendships that exist on the computer. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think if you're like, I guess all

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<v Speaker 3>this is to say, and I appreciate you sharing you know,

1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:13.800
<v Speaker 3>your your vulnerability and your story. And I'm also thinking

1:21:13.840 --> 1:21:18.280
<v Speaker 3>about your situation from like a logistical standpoint, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that if you if you do feel frustrated and

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like you're spinning your fucking wheels, like being

1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:28.200
<v Speaker 3>at home and you know, not having anything, not not

1:21:28.280 --> 1:21:30.760
<v Speaker 3>having anyone at home and then not being able to

1:21:30.840 --> 1:21:34.080
<v Speaker 3>go out, it fucking sucks. And I think if you're

1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:36.240
<v Speaker 3>spinning your and I would just say, like, I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you're spinning your wheels over that, and you're like, okay,

1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:42.799
<v Speaker 3>I need like a just some sort of like outlet

1:21:42.920 --> 1:21:45.759
<v Speaker 3>to feel like I'm not spinning my fucking hamster wheels

1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:51.080
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like trying to do something because I think

1:21:51.080 --> 1:21:54.200
<v Speaker 3>that's that's kind of what settles the brain ultimately, is

1:21:54.200 --> 1:21:56.040
<v Speaker 3>when it feels like it's not spinning its wheels and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like we're actually fucking trying to do something about how,

1:21:59.840 --> 1:22:05.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, the bad shit we're feeling. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a terrible idea to, you know, give a shot

1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:12.880
<v Speaker 3>to joining like you know, a Reddit or a Twitch

1:22:13.000 --> 1:22:17.240
<v Speaker 3>or a discord community. You know, even if there was

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<v Speaker 3>like a video game that you used to play, right, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like what's a video game you used to

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<v Speaker 3>be really into, like nbh ok NBA two K? I

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<v Speaker 3>mean great, you could you could go into you could

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<v Speaker 3>go into like a two K Discord and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, what's up. My name is uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>uh Jonathan for twenty. That's the username I came up

1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:47.479
<v Speaker 3>with for you and and I and I. You know

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<v Speaker 3>I I used to play a lot of two K,

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<v Speaker 3>but then I got into this accident blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just here because I love talking about the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah. Someone be like, oh, hey was that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, It's it's worth giving a shot. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're if you're spinning your wheel and you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to someone, yeah, totally what is your not

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan for twenty?

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<v Speaker 2>Name again Stanley?

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<v Speaker 3>Stanley. There used to be a What the fuck was

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<v Speaker 3>that show on the Disney Channel where there was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy named Stanley who like hung out with animals? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>I do not.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna look that up after this phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, again, man, thanks thanks for sharing. I hope that.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess just before we go, like, is there anything

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<v Speaker 3>else that you wanted to talk about, or any other

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know shit you wanted to talk through,

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<v Speaker 3>or any other way that like this this phone call

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<v Speaker 3>could be helpful to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean to anyone listening now or you know

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<v Speaker 2>Winness is up on YouTube or whatever, you know, anyone

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<v Speaker 2>going through anything similar or going through a dark spot,

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<v Speaker 2>just just know you come through it. Because when I

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<v Speaker 2>was discharged from the hospital just two months after my accident,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was back home and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I was alone, and man, I fell into a deep

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<v Speaker 2>depression and you know, you know, dealing with with suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know I was. I was, I was battling

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<v Speaker 2>suicide there because you know, I mean, I was still

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<v Speaker 2>you know, learning to walk again. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't know how much my body would heal back, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, you know, just battling the mental battle as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, it would just be so easy to

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<v Speaker 2>just to just pull that trigger. But after about maybe

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<v Speaker 2>about a month, maybe two months, and I started to

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<v Speaker 2>feel better, you know, you know, I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>started you know, outpatient therapy, and again, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>therapists were wonderful, did a great job, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, it just took it a day at

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<v Speaker 2>a time right now, and then, yeah, the past several

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<v Speaker 2>months have been have been great. And yeah, so to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone listening, just you know, just take a day ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time, and you know it will get better. It

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<v Speaker 2>really will get better.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you sharing that sentiment, man, and I hope

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<v Speaker 3>things go better with you. I hope that you're able

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<v Speaker 3>to find some sense of community and some sense of

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<v Speaker 3>like a good path forward for yourself. And I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>you sharing your your optimism with the class.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Gek, take.

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<v Speaker 3>Care of Stanley. Good luck. Yes, sir, that was a

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<v Speaker 3>nice guy, Stanley.

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<v Speaker 1>Ship.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck was I going to say? Uh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was that was nice? I mean, yeah, I've had.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had yes times where I felt uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think one of the nice things I

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<v Speaker 3>thought about recently is that I've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>also times where you know, I felt uh uh suicidal

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<v Speaker 3>or insane, and to then look back and be like, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>life actually feels kind of normal and chill. Now. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know that would like when I was

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that way, I didn't even know it would be

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<v Speaker 3>possible to not feel that way in the future. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, something to that, something to stand optimistic. Wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the name of this fucking cartoon Disney Channel? Stanley Stanley. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just called Stanley. Okay, all right, I'm not crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Stanley and it's about this guy Stanley who

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<v Speaker 3>he hangs out with animals. I thought it was like

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<v Speaker 3>riding a dinosaur or some shit, or he's like a

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<v Speaker 3>pet tiger. Okay, okay, I'm not crazy. This existed. Hello, folks,

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<v Speaker 6>We started a delivering pizzas and a pretty shady part

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<v Speaker 6>of a nearby city. Didn't make it two months through

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<v Speaker 6>that until some guys actually tried to kill me.

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<v Speaker 3>While you were delivering pizzas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd call my girlfriend back and I'm just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you okay? I was like, I just got stabbed.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I have nothing else to say. They goes on the

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<v Speaker 3>line taking your phone calls every night, Then goes, I

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<v Speaker 3>was teaching you aloud in the memory of life is

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<v Speaker 3>not an expert