1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Amy here, appreciate y'all listening to our Bobby 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Bones Show podcast. I want to recommend Real Quick, a 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: show from my podcast network that I think you'll like. Now. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: I host a podcast with registered dietitian Lisa Hame called Outweigh, 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: and the whole premise is to break the stigma and 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: expose the truth about disordered eating. We expose the gray 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: area of eating disorders, the subclinical tendencies that many people 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: partake in but they fail to get help for. Having 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: overcome our own struggles with disordered eating, Lisa and I 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: share our personal experiences as well as stories from real 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: people who found their food freedom, and then we also 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: have conversations with experts who share their guidance. Our tagline 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: is a life without disordered eating. Outweighs Everything. It's a 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: really great podcast. I'm biased, but I really do think 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: that you'll like it, especially this episode I'm about to share. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: Go subscribe and listen on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: to podcast. Now here's an abolwey him Amy, That's Lisa, 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and We're just two girls that want to have a 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: conversation with you. Dear sixteen year old Andrea Hey, gorgeous, 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Dear younger Lauren. Each episode is stories from people I 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: would deprive myself by myself obsessively because I was eating healthy. 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't understand that I had a problem with food. 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Losing my period scared me the most. My story starts 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: when I was around seven. That's when I started to 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: hate my body. Body image is like our inner picture 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: of our outer self. Healthy behaviors play a much bigger 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: role at all health than the actual number on the scales. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Internal dialogue can be so powerful and often it's super 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: negative and critical in a way that we wouldn't talk 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: to other people that would care about. When you start 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: to share your story, that gives other people the courage 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: to share theirs. I know you would be proud now 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of how far you have come in your relationship to food, exercise, 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 1: and to yourself. I felt freedom, I've gained relationships. I've 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: found my true sense of self worth. There's one thing 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I need you to take away from this. You're going 37 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: to okay, okay. I'm smiling ear to ear as we 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: start this because Lisa and I are here. I'm Amy. 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: In case you're new, well is this is a brand 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: new podcast, but sort or not. And then Lisa is 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Lisa Engage. You're new, but we are beyond excited to 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: say that Outweigh is now its own podcast. So Outweigh 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: started as a four part series, and my other podcasts 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: that I do called Four Things with Amy Brown, and 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Lisa has been a guest on their multiple times. Then 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: we co hosted Outway together, and well, wouldn't you know, 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: now we've got our own podcast, So there's going to 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: be a new episode every Saturday that you have to 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: look forward to. We were originally planning on doing season two, 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: and then the feedback we received and just a couple 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: of other amazing things that all came together and happened 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: allowed us to produce this podcast. And now, yeah, we're 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: going to be giving you content on Saturdays, which will 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: include either just Lisa and I talking about something that 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: hopefully will be couraging and inspiring and help you not 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: feel alone with whatever you're going through when it comes 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: to food or exercise or whatever it is. And then 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: we'll also have guests on and sometimes I might be 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: just interviewing the guest, sometimes Lisa maybe the only one 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: with the guest, or sometimes will be together. We're really 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: a team. This is a passion project of ours and 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: we're just going to do whatever we have to do 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: to make it happen. Yeah, I mean, I'm also ear 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: to ear right now. And it has been so cool 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: to learn and meet the Outweigh fam on Instagram, because 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: there's no person that listened to one episode of Outweigh 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: like you were either have no idea what Outweigh is 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: or you were in it to win it with our 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: four jam packed with information episodes, so that is what 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: propelled us back here for what we thought would be 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: season two, but what we plan to be an ongoing 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: weekly resource for you to continue to learn that a 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: life without in eating disorder or disordered eating outweighs everything else. 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: So welcome back you guys. That's the tagline, A life 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: without disordered eating outweighs everything, and we truly believe that. 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: But just know that we're two girls on the journey 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: with you, and I think even for this first episode, 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: we kind of wanted to get into that and even 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: some of my story and where I was when we 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: recorded this in March of twenty twenty. I'm depending on 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: when you're listening to this now, that's when we recorded 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: outweigh for the Four Things podcast and then it aired 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: in April, and I was fresh off of my Fitness Pal, 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: like literally probably right before we recorded, and I almost 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: used the recording as a Okay, I'm about to start 86 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: co hosting a special series on disordered eating. And I 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: didn't realize that using my fitness Pal was a disordered behavior. 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was helping me because I no longer 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: was binging and I no longer was purging, So why 90 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: is it that big of a deal that I was 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: having the tool that was helped giving me structure to 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: my day? But what I didn't realize is how into 93 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: it I was and how dependent I was on it, 94 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: and how I would spend twenty minutes trying to enter 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: in the waffle that I made from scratch. There was 96 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: four servings and I only ate one, So really, was 97 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: that an eighth of an egg or a whole egg? 98 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: Or how much? You know? Because my fitness Pal is 99 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: very detailed, and my friend and I were on a 100 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: walk the other day talking about it and she said, oh, yeah, 101 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: I used to enter in the sprinkle of salt that 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: I would have because she was tracking her sodium. And 103 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I get it if you have certain things going on 104 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: with your body where you may need to actually track 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: your sodium. That's not what we're saying. We're speaking to 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: people like myself who were doing it just to control 107 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: every single little thing that went in my body so 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: that I did not exceed X amount of protein an 109 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: X amount of calories for the day. But what it 110 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: was doing is it was such a mind suck like 111 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: it was sucking and an energy suck like. It was 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: taking up so much space in my mind. It was 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: taking up so much time in my day, and Outweigh 114 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: helped me get rid of it. But it didn't just 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: happen like that. And I think Lisa and you can 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: speak to this too. We would encourage you, if you 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: haven't listened to that first four part series to go 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: back and do it, or if you have listened to 119 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: it and things didn't just boom change right away for you. 120 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Everyone is on their own journey and it is going 121 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: to take time, and it's going to take work. And 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: if you slide into different patterns that you later realize 123 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: aren't healthy for you, that's okay. I was all over 124 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the place, but it was part of my journey to 125 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: get me to where I am today. Yeah, And if 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: you're listening and you're like, why is my fitness pell 127 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: bat or why is it considered disordered or calorie counting? Essentially, 128 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: why it's classified under that category of disordered is because 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: you are not allowing your body to lead. You are 130 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: living with external rules about what, how much, and maybe 131 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: even when to eat. So whenever we are silencing the 132 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: body's desires and holding onto these external crutches in terms 133 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: of quantity and so forth, that is where things can 134 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: get a little bit messy. Now, perhaps not everybody who 135 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: uses my fitness path falls in the disordered eating category, 136 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: but given Amy's history and you know, I certainly buy 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the let me actually say this, this might be kind 138 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: of interesting for you guys. When I was in grad school, 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: we were taught to use my fitness pal to help 140 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: people make informed choices. So, like, take a moment to 141 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of let that seep in as to how normalized 142 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: this behavior is. I didn't go to grad school to 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: learn how to enable people to be disordered with food. 144 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: I went to grad school to learn about nutrition and 145 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: how to empower people. But so many of the behaviors 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: that we've been partaking in have been normalized for a 147 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: long time, so much so that my education continued to 148 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: drill it in me that humans can't be trusted around food. 149 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: Therefore they need to be meticulous with their counting and 150 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: tracking if they want to blah blah blah. And so 151 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: I think that it's only when you realize that the 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: body is magnificent in helping guide us into what, how much, etc. 153 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: Does that really shift and you realize how kind of 154 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: silly the things we do are, not because they're silly themselves, 155 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: but because, like Amy, like you said, like your life 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: was just eaten up by figuring out how to get 157 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: one eighth of an egg into the my Fitness Pal. 158 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: And what that does is it keeps you small, It 159 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: occupies your brain. It takes away from you know, being 160 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: the best mom to Stevenston ins to Shara. Maybe I'm 161 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: just using that as an example. I know for me, 162 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: it took away from being a present girlfriend at the 163 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: time or a friend to anybody else, because I was 164 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: kind of just obsessed with whatever was going on in 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: my world and nothing else mattered other than figuring out 166 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: how much I ate that day, because that was my 167 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: perceived sense of control and all. Second, what you said 168 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Lisad not doesn't mean if you're listening to this right now, 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: and if you're getting defensive of your use of whatever 170 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: tool it is that you use, I would take a 171 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: second to do some reflection on what role does it 172 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: play in your life? Maybe you have an okay relationship 173 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: with that. I did not so, and that was something 174 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: I thought I did, and I thought because I wasn't 175 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: partaking in other disordered habits or eating disordered behaviors that 176 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: I had done in the past, it was fine. And 177 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: so for me. It took a while for it to 178 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: show up as a problem for me, and then letting 179 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: go of it was extremely difficult. And that's when I 180 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: knew how much power it had on me. Was the 181 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: weeks after I had let it go, how I would 182 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: still lay in bed at night or wake up in 183 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: the morning freaking out about how was I going to 184 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: know what I was supposed to eat? And I would text, Lisa, 185 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: are you sure I can't just enter something in today, 186 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: because it would really help me know, because I'm only 187 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: supposed to have this much protein or I need to 188 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: have I need to have this much protein, more protein 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: than I've ever consumed in my life. But I wanted 190 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: to make sure I was lifting weights and that I 191 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: was going to look a certain way. But it helps 192 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: you let go of all of that, and I had 193 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: to let go with Yeah, I'm not going to be 194 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: as tight as I was because of this, but that's okay. 195 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: I would rather have softness and more brain space and 196 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: more time for things in life that matter than have 197 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: whatever I was after. You know, we're all about tools 198 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: and helping you use tools. And I just heard three 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: words you said that I think we can all flag 200 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: as check in with our self. Words like not necessarily 201 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: there no no three you're catching them yourself, but for 202 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: the listener and even for myself, like it's we need 203 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: to always be checking in with ourselves, never getting too comfortable, 204 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: and always saying, oh, what's that about? What's that about? 205 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: What's really underlying that? So the three words that you 206 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: said our need like I need to be doing that 207 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: or a certain way, I need to look a certain way, 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: or I'm supposed to be doing like these are just 209 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: words that we made up and they don't exist. So 210 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: whenever we say, oh, I need to do this or 211 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: to look a certain way, or I'm supposed to be 212 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: eating this, like let's all outweigh fam Like, let's flag 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: those words and use them not to say, you know, 214 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: hit your wrist and say shame on you. That's that's 215 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: not the approach that I ever take with any sort 216 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: of self work, but rather let that light bulb go 217 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: off as to something inside is really desperate for a 218 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: sense of control, and peel that back and say why 219 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: why do I feel like I need this pretend fake control, 220 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: because that's that's what it is. It's not actual control. 221 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: Because you know, Amy, when you were on my fitness 222 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Pal and you're again trying to calculate that egg like 223 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: that sounds like captivity, not control. Right, I would say 224 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: I wasn't as shackled as I was with my other habits, 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: but I had moved maybe to just for a visual 226 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: like shackles on both my hands and both my legs 227 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: for so long. Maybe I just had moved to maybe 228 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: the shackles were off my feet, but I still had 229 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: one hand shack that's really powerful actually, and the behaviors 230 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: themselves are not as dangerous or harmful. Right. You know, 231 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: we know that Amy had a history of purging and 232 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: some other things, and I think that I see this 233 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: a lot By the way, people who have had eating 234 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: disorders like anorexia or bulimia find I'm gonna put in 235 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: quotes here freedom and please if you're in this stage 236 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: like know that that is a beautiful place to be 237 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: as long as we continue to grow. They find quote 238 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: unquote freedom when they find a diet plan that gives 239 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: that one shackle, you know, because then they're eating. Right, 240 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: you were eating with the macro tracking, but you were 241 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: mentally consumed by it, but you were eating and you 242 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: weren't purging, and so in the absence of purging, right, like, 243 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: are you fine? And that's the question to really ask, 244 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Am I fine now that I'm not doing this obvious 245 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, dangerous for my health, mental well being, behavior, 246 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: And it's okay to take off one shackle at a 247 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: time as long as you continue to acknowledge that there 248 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: is one shackle and each day you put work into 249 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: unlock that a little bit. Does that make a little sense, 250 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: It totally does. I think our goal with since this 251 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: is are intro to this new podcast is when you 252 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: listen to this, hopefully you'll find the encouragement to remove 253 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: the shackle. Now, not every episode will relate to you, 254 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: not every guest may relate to you, but I encourage 255 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: you to listen to as much as possible or find 256 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: other similar things. You can listen to, books, you can read, 257 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Instagram accounts you can follow that are going to be 258 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: a constant reel of this conversations. When you're following other accounts, 259 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: or reading other books, or maybe even following a diet 260 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: plan that are feeding you opposing information, You're going to 261 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: feel stuck. And I'm not saying Lisa and I are 262 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: the end all be all you need to listen to 263 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: every episode of this podcast, not at all, but I'm 264 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: saying we hope to be a safe space where you 265 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: won't feel triggered. We're trying to be very mindful of that. 266 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: And also, just with that said, some episodes or all 267 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: of them, maybe a trigger warning. I mean, Lisa, you 268 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: can probably speak to that a little bit more, and 269 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: I want you to. I think what's a little bit 270 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: different than us versus a eating disorder recovery podcast is 271 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: that we want people to tell their stories so that 272 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: somebody who thinks that they're alone in this situation can 273 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: find some hope. So we're one hundred percent going to 274 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: put trigger warnings on but we're not going to filter 275 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: people from telling their stories. That being said, you know, 276 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: the show notes will be a place where we tell 277 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: you what the episode is about, as well as put 278 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: important content warnings on. But I know that from you all, 279 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: we have had amazing feedback as to what you want, 280 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and the guests that we have lined up so far 281 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: feed into that, from how to feed your child and 282 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: develop children and kids that have healthy relationships to food, 283 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: to going through pregnancy and changing bodies too. I actually 284 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: don't look like you, Lisa and Amy and I have 285 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: an eating disorder or disordered eating. Can you have people 286 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: on that tell that side that eating disorders don't just 287 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: live in you know, traditionally thin bodies. From everything that 288 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: you've told us, we are taking back and turning it 289 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: into a guest or an expert, and we hope to 290 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: continue to hear from you as to what you want 291 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: to hear. So I do want to let you know 292 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: we have a new email address and it's hello at 293 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Outweigh podcast dot com, and that can be the place 294 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: where you let us know what's going on, who you 295 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: want to hear from, what type of guests. And we're 296 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: doing this for the Outwegh Family, and so it's dependent 297 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: on your needs completely. I would say too, sending those 298 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: types of emails are wonderful. But if you want to 299 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: send in your story or you feel like you're ready 300 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: to share your story with the Outweigh family, we have 301 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: an opportunity to give you that. Now, that doesn't mean 302 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: every single email we get is going to be featured 303 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast, just to make that clear. But you know, 304 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe you're ready to share your story and maybe it 305 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: ends up being here, or maybe it ends up being 306 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: in your circle of friends or you have in your 307 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: nook of the world. How can you make a difference 308 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: with your story? And we want to hear from you 309 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: because I think there's power in everyday people having a 310 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: voice and sharing what they've been through and then people 311 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: hearing everyday people and be like, oh yeah, Like Lisa said, 312 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: we don't want you to feel alone. And so there's 313 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: all kinds of people going through this. We plan on 314 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: having diverse guests and Lisa just speak to privilege quickly 315 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: to where you and I are coming from. That it's 316 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: not lost on us, and we just want to make 317 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: sure everybody feels included here. Yeah, I mean I think 318 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: you're referring to just like our thin bodies and our 319 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: thin privilege. Despite what we've gone through with eating disorders 320 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: and disordered eating, we still live and occupy bodies that 321 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: are very socially accepted. And we don't just want to 322 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: have guests on that look like us. We want to 323 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: have guests on that look like everybody who lives in 324 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: I'll just say our country or this world, this planet, 325 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: because the more we hear about the human experience, the 326 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: less alone we feel, the more we can help each other, 327 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: and the more we can stop to no longer normalize 328 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: so many behaviors that have been normalized in the pursuit 329 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: of looking one way. There's no one way to look. 330 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: There's no one way to be healthy. And it's so 331 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: important that everybody finds their own empowerment and strength from within. 332 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: And I'll say society has told us that there is 333 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: one way to look, and I have fallen captive to that. 334 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: And especially depending on maybe what you do for a living, 335 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: or who you surround yourselves with, or pressures you have 336 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: on you, they can come from all different places the pressure. 337 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: But society as a whole says, and it's said for 338 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: years and years and years, this is what you should 339 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: try to look like. And that's what we want to 340 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: undo here as well. We want to be part of 341 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: that conversation of no, actually, you don't have to look 342 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: like that, and whoever's telling you you should, let's start 343 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: silencing that. And it's hard because again, when it's society 344 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: telling you that, I go back to I think I 345 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: even mentioned this that way, but I always hear Demi 346 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: Lavado in my head talking about her pressure from her. 347 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: She's in a world and I'm not even the biggest 348 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: Dimmi Lavado fan, but this is such a go to 349 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: for me. It just hit me when one day she said, 350 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, why am I killing myself at the gym 351 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: three times a day? She's going to the gym three 352 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: times a day and doing other unhealthy habits all to 353 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: be an a leotard on stage, to look a certain way, 354 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: because that is what society or her world was saying, 355 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: to look like this pop star. This is how pop 356 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: stars look like and you should be in this tiny 357 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: lid tart. And it's like, no, who says that? And 358 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: then if she wants to be in a lidchart and 359 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: she doesn't look like x y Z pop stars who 360 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: cares that's her body. All of our bodies are built 361 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: so differently, and that's what we need to I love this. 362 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Normalize has been a new word for me in twenty twenty, 363 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: and we need to normalize that It's okay we all 364 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: look different. That bodies change, right, Like so many people 365 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: are kind of stuck on going back to their high 366 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: school wade, or their college wade, or their early twenties 367 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: or even their early thirties, depending you know. I know, 368 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: we get all types of listeners here. And the best 369 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: way to continue to be healthy, to support our bodies 370 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: and give them what they need is to recognize that 371 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: body shapes and sizes change over time over the life cycle, 372 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: especially as women whose bodies you know, go through different 373 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: things in order to carry life, and again, in order 374 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: to continue to nourish them and show up for them 375 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: and give them what we need, we need to understand 376 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: that they do fluctuate and they're not static. And Amy, 377 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: you said something that I thought was really beautiful, just 378 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: about like your body being softer a few moments ago. Yes, So, 379 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: I struggle with mental health. It's always an ongoing fight. 380 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: It's been a good couple of years for sure, and 381 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for that. But for whatever reason, mornings 382 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: are really tough for me. I just wake up and 383 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: I even if it's the best day, like we're about 384 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: to record and I have so many amazing things planned, 385 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I just struggle. I struggle to get out of bed. 386 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: And what I've been doing these last few days, and 387 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: this was actually a follower recommended that I do. This 388 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: is she said. She puts her hand on her chest, 389 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: on her heart and says, I love you, I love you, 390 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: I love you, and she says it softens her. And 391 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: so I've been putting my right hand on my heart 392 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: and my left hand on my belly and noticing that 393 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: my belly feels softer, and that the first thing that 394 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't do when I wake up in the morning 395 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: is run to the mirror to check if my exercise 396 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: regiment is working hard enough and my abs are there, 397 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: and you know, pulling out whatever is there, as I 398 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: did in my early twenties. It's been a really nice 399 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: way to wake up really softly and send a little 400 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: message to myself. So I encourage everybody to lean into 401 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the places of their body that they think are so 402 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: quote unquote awful or unlovable, whether it's your legs, your arms, 403 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: your neck, your belly, and place your hands there and 404 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: send some of your own love inward, even even big, big, big, 405 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: even here if it feels forced right now and it 406 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: feels uncomfortable. So I just wanted to share that little 407 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: tip off anybody else struggles or is just looking for 408 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: a nice way to get out of bed in the morning. Awesome. 409 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a great place to leave people with 410 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: our first episode and just kind of what you can 411 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: expect from this podcast. And thank you Lisa for sharing that. 412 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, it may seem forced at first, 413 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: but it could evolve into something that your body really 414 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: appreciates and your mind and will just become second nature. 415 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: We all need to be loving all the parts all 416 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: the time, and I think that we know that our 417 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: mind is so powerful and when that becomes your mantra 418 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: of I love you arms, I love you legs. Thank 419 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: you for giving me the ability to walk and move 420 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: when I need to, and thank you stomach for carrying 421 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: my two children. Thank you arms for allowing me to 422 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: hug people when there's not coronavirus. Okay, well, thank you 423 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: stomach for helping me digest food and arms for helping 424 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: me grab a pencil, and you know, even the most 425 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: basic of things our bodies do for us. And I 426 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: think when we love ourselves, so we don't that's not 427 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: the end goal. The end goal is we love others. 428 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: We're able to open our hearts to others when we're 429 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: more able to open our hearts to ourselves, and that 430 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: enriches life. I'm not going to say it's the ticket 431 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: to happiness, because you know, happiness, what is happiness, But 432 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: our lives can be enriched by small interactions with ourselves 433 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: and others, and those little bits of life improvements are 434 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: what make living worth it awesome. Well, thank you listeners 435 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: for joining us. If you're here for episode one, you're 436 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: probably already part of the Autway fam. If you are 437 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: brand new, welcome, and Lisa shared with you our email. 438 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: We would love to hear from you hello at Outweigh 439 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: podcast dot com. So we look forward to this journey, 440 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: this podcast and seeing wherever it takes us. See you 441 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: guys soon,