1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: This is Cowboy Sam and this is Eh John. And 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: we've last showed. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: In some amazing stories for y'all the Okay Storytime podcasts. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: But before that, we got to wrangle a quick little 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: tune minute out break from those bucking sponsors. We bucking 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: love so much they paid us the bucks to help 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: this show stay alive. My girlfriend cheated on me with 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: our friend. Oh that's not yeah, not good at all. 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: This is hard. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: We've been together for nearly eight years. We built a 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: life together. So there's so much to this. But basically, 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: I twenty seven mail did that thing that everyone in 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: a relationship should be wary of. I looked through my 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: girlfriend's twenty five female phone and I found messages upon 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: messages from a mutual friend who lived out of state, 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: now that were concerning. Initially, I was gonna leave right 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: then and there, but I wanted to. 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Try to talk to her. You know, when you see 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: messages that you just don't want to see on the phone. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Yea. 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: Of cheating, got a yeah, it's a it's a it's 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: a knife to the heart. I gave her almost three 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: chances to own up to it. By the way, this 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: comes from throwaway and if you want to submit your 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r slash Okay story time 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: still brought it so the first time I was really 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: vague and just asked if there was someone else, She 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: flat out denied it. I thought I was prepared for 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: her to deny, but turns out I wasn't. Then the 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: other times I got more and more pointed. Finally she 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: admitted that the guy had messaged her and flirted with her. 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: But we knew he was that way, and while she 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: didn't tell him to f off, she wasn't into it. 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: Now. 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: I didn't see any messages from her at the beginning 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: that showed she was exactly complicit in it. So while 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: I didn't believe her, I tried to give her a chance, 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: try to tell her, you know, tell me what's the truth. 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: Tell me the truth, Tell me the truth. No p 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: gives her too many chances. He's like, I'll give you 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: a chance. 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: She lies and lies. 43 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: I know it's stupid, but we've been together for so 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: long and we built the life together. But then I 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: dug again, no man is a little gopher. And there 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: it was, all of it, and worse, he took the 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: time to insult me. To him that is sucky. That's rough, 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: that's freaky's rough. 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 3: Talk about you behind your back, Yeah. 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: That's also a high. Ali, I love you, I miss you. 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: That hurts so affing much. 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: That hurts. 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: I know my faults, and I know that I could 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: have worked on this relationship, but I really tried. 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: Every day. 56 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: I tried, But for her to tell someone else things 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: about me like that, I can't help but feel broken. 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: So right now I'm waiting for her to wake up 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: and leave for work. Then I'm packing what I can 60 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: and heading to a friend's place. And I don't know. 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: I spent eight years on this relationship and I'm going 62 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: to walk away from it. I wrote a note out 63 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: on my phone that I'm going to write up for 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: her after she leaves. It says everything I can think 65 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: to say. I mold over what to say, NonStop, what satisfyingly. 66 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell her how she did this, to 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: know that and remember that, and that if at any 68 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: point she thinks we can become okay, that no, she 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: ft this up and it hurts so much. 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna make sure she knows. 71 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, she can never forget this betrayal. 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm scared. 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm lost and so much, so I don't want to 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: have to do this, but I have to, and I 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: know ultimately it's going to get better. But also I 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: f all of this, and that is where first part ends. 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: We got an edit one, we got an edit two, 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: we got lots of. 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: Edit Yeah, I mean, there's no coming back from this. 80 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: What do we think about OP kind of like leaving 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: in the night, you know, like like not not confronting 82 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: right away, but basically saying like, hey, I'm I'm leaving. 83 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I personally am a fan of having a 84 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: conversation as long as you don't feel unsafe and being like, 85 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: hey you did this, so we're done. 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about the leave in the night. 87 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: Then I personally I am more a fan of like 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: front stuff. 89 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: Unless you think they're gonna get better. Destroy that again. 90 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Another point is that OP has been given her like 91 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: definitely he is in the right for leaving in general, 92 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: Like that's a separate point, just like you know, I 93 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: think straight up conversation usually. 94 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: Best agreed, agreed. 95 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: But we got an edit one, so she's up now 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: and getting ready to work. He tried to kiss me 97 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: and apologize about tossing and turning all night, and she 98 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: knew it kept me up. 99 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: I seem to. 100 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: Getting a lot of pushback on the letter when she leaves. 101 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to pack and I'll mull it over it again. 102 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: But I'll say this. If I decide to write it 103 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: and it ends up being a mistake, so be it. 104 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: It felt nice to at least draft it out on 105 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: my phone. Made things more real so I can convince 106 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: myself that I have to leave. 107 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: So he hasn't. 108 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: He hasn't left yet. Yeah, she's there still like sleeping together. 109 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh dang. Yeah, he drafted the letter, but he hasn't 110 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: given it. 111 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: To Oh dang, I thought he left. 112 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: He wrote the letter, hasn't, hasn't yet, like actually said 113 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: he he's doing with Abraham Lincoln. 114 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, now write the letter seven years ago you cheated 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: on me with my friends. 116 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: Edit two eight thirty am. She just left her work. 117 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: I'm going to shower and truthfully let out a nice cry, 118 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: then pack my stuff. Lots of people are saying just 119 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: straight ghost her, and lots are saying a short and 120 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: to the point note instead of a letter. I'm going 121 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: to contemplate that in the shower, she kept saying I 122 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: love you, and I was reluctant to say it back. 123 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: She said it three times and I kind of grumbled 124 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: it out once. I'm certain once she reaches work they'll 125 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: text me about that. I'm not going to respond to 126 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: her while she's at work. She won't be home until 127 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: probably eight tonight. I just realized I should time stanti edits. 128 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. Edit three, eight fifty four. I'm 129 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: packing up now. Kat seemed to know something is up 130 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: because they won't leave me alone. Honestly breaks my heart. 131 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: I've been molling the letter over. I reread it a 132 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: few times, and I've decided on a short note, just 133 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: laying out that I know and I'm leaving, essentially something 134 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: like I left. I know about you and him insert 135 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: what I read and saw. I'm so utterly disappointed in you. 136 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: I won't be answering my phone, and I wish you 137 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: not to contact me. At some point we'll get together 138 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: to discuss logistics. I think that's okay. 139 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad letter. 140 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: It's okay. 141 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that if the second best thing, if 142 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: you're not going to have a conversation is the letter, 143 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: because you get out all the feelings and stuff. But 144 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: I still think a conversation. 145 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think you can do a 146 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: letter to have a conversation. 147 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: Sure, I think that's true. I think I think that's 148 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: like saying, like sending a text saying let's have it, 149 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: let's talk about this. 150 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 151 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 152 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I also feel like when you live together too, H 153 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: see this, this isn't I feel like this is an 154 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: issue in this is like when you live together, it's 155 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: hard to have that conversation. Have space and have your 156 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: own space absolutely, you know, so I feel like having 157 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: a place you can stay. 158 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: But I think like saying, like, hey, I want to talk. 159 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: I want to have this conversation. I cannot be staying here, 160 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: like maybe even putting that in a letter. I can't 161 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: stay here right now. I want to have a conversation 162 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: with you to actually talk about all of this. Doesn't 163 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: mean we're getting back together, but I can't be here 164 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: to have it. Yeah, I agree, but I think that 165 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: a letter does not negate the need for a conversation. 166 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: Also, I'm reading everyone's comments. If I didn't reply, I'm 167 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: sorry to the people that have commented about going through 168 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: something similar. I am so sorry you're going through this 169 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: as well. I don't know what you'll be able to 170 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: glean from my situation, but I hope something here in 171 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: all of this helps y'all as well. Edit four nine 172 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: five am. I'm pretty much packed with what I can 173 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: get out right now. Obviously there's a lot more. I'm 174 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: writing the note and then leaving. I'll need to find 175 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: food after I drop off what I have. This may 176 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: be the last update, since he won't be off till 177 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: later tonight, but I'll respond to y'all when I can. 178 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: Gives me something to do. At at five ten forty 179 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: two am, I'm at my friend's place. He's giving me 180 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: the lay of the land. People have been talking about 181 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: taking the cats currently, that's not an option. Friend has 182 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: three and a dog. My cats are spoiled and hate 183 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: anyone that isn't her and I I'm not worried she'd 184 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: do anything to them. If anything, she's gonna want them 185 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: around if she does get upset now that she deserves that, 186 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: but it is what it is. Thank you everyone for 187 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: the kind words and advice. I'll respond to some of 188 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: you again here soon. Someone asked me about my work. 189 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: I work in an equine care with horses sick. It's 190 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: actually really cool. I love my job. 191 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: Like Morty's mom. 192 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Yes, like Morty's mom, and I love being there. 193 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: So once I start going back in a few days, 194 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: it'll be a really good distraction. 195 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: It's great you can be with the horses instead of 196 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: your cheating girlfriend. Yay. 197 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: Also, my friend reminded me she's going out of town 198 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: next week for a week, so I'll have the place 199 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: to myself. I don't know if that's a good thing 200 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: or a bad thing, but hey, she'll have someone to 201 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: watch your animals. 202 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: While she's gone, So there's that. I know. 203 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: I have a lot of figuring out to do, but 204 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: I literally just left. Oh, and someone else mentioned they 205 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: hope I find things to do to make myself happy. 206 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: I had plans before all of this to go to 207 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: the usual brewery with some friends tomorrow. Initially I was 208 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: going to call some of them and tell them what's 209 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: going on and that I need space. But thinking about 210 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: it more, it actually sounds like the perfect distraction and at. 211 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: Six really specific times. 212 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're where we are. We are getting the minute 213 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: by minute update. 214 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: Just read that sentence, got food bond me, I love 215 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: and my thigh if anyone was serious, So good, good, Wait, 216 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: those are like the Vietnamese French. 217 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Like the sandwiches. Yeah yeah, it's like, oh, oh my goodness. 218 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: I love them on me. 219 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: And talk to a couple of friends. So I'm sorry 220 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: I haven't been replying. It's going to take a while 221 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: to go through all the messages and comments. But what 222 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: I've seen so far, I want to say, for the 223 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: umpteenth time, thank you. I'm ready. I'm ready for the uh, 224 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: for the shoe to drop. I wanted to figure like 225 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: I want her to. 226 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be like wait, where are you? 227 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: Where are you? 228 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: Sweedy? Where are you? Where are you? 229 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: And it's seven to fifteen. This is my last update. 230 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: Apparently I used a word that all right folks like 231 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: to use, but it was used to describe me. 232 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: So whatever. 233 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to go through all the comments, but 234 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: I saw some people had questions. I'll do my best 235 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: to address the friend is well a friend. I don't 236 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: know what else to say on that. There's nothing there. 237 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: A guy and a girl can be friends and that's it. 238 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: If this is weird for you guys, then I'm sorry. 239 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if this is going to 240 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: be a straight move in. I'm still figuring things out. 241 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: Some people have said I'm no better than her in 242 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: eight years and not being married was also a bad sign, 243 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: et cetera. 244 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Well, I guess so. Also he's only twenty seven. 245 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so like I feel like that's honestly normal for 246 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: a younger relationship. 247 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, eight years and not married, but they 248 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: started when they were in nineteen. 249 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 250 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: Well, like, clearly this relationship isn't working out. Look what 251 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: it led to. If that's my fault or her fault 252 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: or our fault or whatever, it is the situation I'm in, 253 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: and on the note of what it led to, and 254 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: as far as I know, she hasn't actually cheated. I 255 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: e f'd him. They message flirtatious things, calling each other hot, sexy, 256 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: and there's some pictures but not nudes. But the recent 257 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 2: thing I've found, and I'll talk on the going through 258 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: the phone thing next was messages about wanting to f 259 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: each other straight up, that they missed a chance because 260 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: of me, but that this for me is the kicker. 261 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: He apparently wants to make a This is where that 262 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: word was used of me? 263 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: What oh the fault right word or whatever? 264 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh to make a blank of me? Probably see you, 265 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: he apparently wants to make a cuck of my. 266 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what that was supposed to say. 267 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: I think it's couck and she seemed into it. They 268 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: wanted to have spicy sleep and have me know they yet, 269 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: which is why I don't think they have yet. On 270 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: the going through the phone thing, I know it was dumb. 271 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: I know what I did. I don't advocate, but it 272 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: is how I found out about all of this. I 273 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: just had suspicions that something was going on with someone, 274 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: so it did that for me. Would I tell the 275 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: next person to go through their partner's phone, I don't know. 276 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Probably not. I tell them if they find something, it'll hurt, 277 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: because this effing hurts, and if they don't, then they 278 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: breach the trust and privacy of their scenepan oother for nothing, 279 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: and that in itself is a weird situation. I don't know, folks, 280 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: that's not help anyone. Should I elaborate more and we 281 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: have an update eleven days later? But what do we 282 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: think about like this situation? Like, yes, it isn't like 283 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: they didn't f but I mean, I feel like they 284 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: might as well have. 285 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: I think they emotionally cheated at at least, and it 286 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: doesn't really matter if they physically did or not. But yeah, 287 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: I think I think at the end of the day, 288 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: still I'm still not you know, supportive of people looking 289 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: through other people's phones. No, no, you found out, you 290 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: know you did it. The relationship is already gonna end. 291 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: You found the proof that you needed. 292 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, going through your partner's phone, you know it damages 293 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: the trust. It's not I don't think it cannot be 294 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: come back from in the same way that maybe like cheating. 295 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: I just think it usually is a signed that your 296 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: relationships already. 297 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Going downhill, or like you need, you know, a therapy, counseling, 298 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: you need, you needed a lot a long conversations. Something 299 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: I think this relationship is is over. I think op 300 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: knows that. I think Opie's really hurt about it. You 301 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: can see in all these updates he's like he's like giving. 302 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: The internet, what do we do? 303 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: What to do? 304 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, like not stop. 305 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: I think op needs to stay strong in ensuring that 306 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: there's separation here. 307 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, But we. 308 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Got an update eleven days later. So we had our 309 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: talk last night. I got back and she tried to 310 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: crack a couple of jokes like things were normal. I 311 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: started off and told her that I loved her and 312 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: I had for nearly eight years we were together, but 313 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: this is something I can't forget or forgive. I told 314 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: her I knew everything that they said between them, and 315 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: it disgusted me that it hurt deeply and that she 316 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: did that now. I told her I didn't believe I'd 317 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: be okay because of this for a long time. 318 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: That's half true. 319 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: This will, of course take plenty of healing, but I 320 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: know I'll be okay now. For her side, she has 321 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: a side, stay strong, Stay You've. 322 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 3: Given her multiple chances to tell the truth, and she 323 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: has never once told the truth, so I don't imagine 324 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: that we'll get much of the truth here. 325 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: She told me that none of this had to do 326 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: with me. None of it was my fault. 327 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: She's lying. 328 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: It was all her, her mistake, her ef up. She 329 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: had been feeling unhappy just about life for a while. 330 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: She felt stuck in life and aimless. Then this guy 331 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: and next friend came along, gave her attention and it 332 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: distracted her from how unhappy she was with how her 333 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: life was. But then it started to progress to a 334 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: point where she didn't know what to do none of 335 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: what she said she meant to him. She said it 336 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: because she knew he wanted to hear it. That it 337 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: almost didn't seem real to her. It almost felt like 338 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: a game. I told her it was real to me, 339 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: that she still said those things, that she can't take 340 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: that back or undo it. She told me she never 341 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: intended to hurt me. That that's been the hardest thing 342 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: for her because she knew I treated her better than 343 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: anyone else will that I'm the only person who had 344 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: and will put up with her bs. She told me 345 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: I really did treat her better than she deserved. This 346 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: relationship is officially over, though I know there's probably more 347 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: I wish I could have said, But my real takeaway 348 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: is that I cannot let go of it. I need 349 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: to move on and start to live a new chapter. 350 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Of my life. 351 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: I haven't told her this yet. I'm going to on Monday, 352 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: but I have an opportunity on a new place with 353 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: a coworker that's good. I feel like op is like 354 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: moving on, moving out. 355 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: I also think that was the conversation. Yeah, I think 356 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: that allowed them to both kind of move on from this, 357 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: because that's which is why I think that conversations are helpful. 358 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: And you know, as crappy as it is to cheat 359 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: on someone, I feel like her response to it is 360 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: like as good of a one that you could hope. 361 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I messed up, I really. 362 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: Mess It wasn't anything to do with you. It was 363 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: I was in a bad place in my life and 364 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have acted on that and I did. And 365 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: I yeah, I think. 366 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: That honestly, I'm gonna I don't know if we've had 367 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: this good of reaction, this is this is a world 368 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: class response to effing up from cheating. 369 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: I agree. Doesn't mean at all that YEA not absolved, evolved, 370 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: but I do think it shows like a level of maturity. 371 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: I still think they should break up, and they are 372 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: and I think that's great. And you know, maybe she's 373 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: not saying complete truths. Maybe she is trying to absolve herself. 374 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think that is. It sounds 375 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: like immature, it. 376 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Sounds but sure. 377 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean, someone said, let's see Chibi Lee says she's 378 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: planning to do this anyway, while she's trying to keep 379 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: the relationship so she can fill her twisted fantasies of 380 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: like cucking this guy. 381 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that I mean. 382 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: Literally anything as possible. I just say like it seems like, Oh, 383 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: he got what he needed out of this conversation. That's 384 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: what That's what I think. 385 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: Their roommate leaves in a few months, so that gives 386 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: me time to save and get some of my life 387 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: back in order. I have a lot of work ahead 388 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: of me, a lot of things to figure out. As 389 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: plenty of people have pointed out, this will be the 390 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: first time in a long time that I'll be financially 391 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: impersonally independent. 392 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: I'll only have me to worry about. That's something that'll 393 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: take some work that. 394 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to welcome the challenge and spend as much 395 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: time as I can trying to be who I am 396 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: more than ever, I always want to say, from the 397 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: bottom of my heart, sincerely, thank you everyone that took 398 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: the time to read and respond in the last post. 399 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: This has been and will continue to be one of 400 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: the hardest things I've gone through, but you guys have 401 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: been so amazingly gracious with your advice. I will always 402 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: remember this and the kindness of random strangers on this 403 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: silly little website. By the way, there's another relevant update 404 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: and update too. Pooh boy, But how do you feel 405 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: about where op is landing? I think good, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 406 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: I feel like honestly mature response from both of them. 407 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Frak the Pug trut out Frank the Pug haven't seen 408 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: you a second. 409 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: That's just because you haven't misen That's true. 410 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: That's just because I haven't been there. But it's nice 411 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: to see you. She's such a bad liar. If you're 412 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: feeling lonely or sad in your relationship, you talk to 413 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: your signing of another. You don't plot to humiliate the 414 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: guy you love. 415 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: I completely agree, completely agree. 416 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: But I do think that her. 417 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm literally only like I don't care about it, Like 418 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: I do care about all of her actions in the 419 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm just not talking about any of her actions. 420 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, like if. 421 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 3: Unexcusable, I just think, like her what she said. What 422 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: Like out of all of the cheater responses that we've heard, 423 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: they're usually like, well are you do this? Sort of 424 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: like but it's blamey. 425 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 426 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: It did feel like I was transported into her body 427 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 2: having done the things that I had just done, and 428 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: I was trying to be the best possible person going forward, 429 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: knowing that I had just done all those things. 430 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: I would say what she said. 431 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, but again, it 432 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that she is absolved of anything. 433 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: No, she's not absolved, all right. Update two? First things First, 434 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: I'm sick. Oh no, going to the doctor Monday. I 435 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: think I have an ulcer in my stomach. Not sure, 436 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: probably from all the stress. 437 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably so. 438 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: I've been dealing with that, but as far as everything else. 439 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: Moving into my new place in about a week. Talk 440 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: with the X on and off. Wouldn't say things are friendly, 441 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: but we're being civil. There's nothing really for us to 442 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: talk about anymore. So it's been like once a week 443 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: something random. We had lunch a couple of weeks ago 444 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: and she opened up a lot. She has a lot 445 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: of growing to do. I do, of course as well, 446 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: and she's not doing anything. 447 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: With that guy. 448 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: Just wants to focus on herself and bettering herself. Until 449 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: this past week. Being too sick to go out, I've 450 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: been hanging out with friends and goofing. 451 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Off. 452 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: Tried to brave a small concert the other day but 453 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: almost threw up while I was there. I've been meaning 454 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: to make an update, and I'm sorry I haven't folks, 455 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: things are all right. I've got things going for me. 456 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: I've been basically focusing on that budgeting, making various a 457 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: list of things I need and things I want to do. 458 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm getting two paid vacations this year and just generally 459 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: figuring out my life. 460 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: And that is where the story. 461 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: Here you go, and I watched to figure out your life, 462 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: and I'm I'm glad for you. Yeah, and I'm happy 463 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: you're doing it. Good luck to you. But folks, that 464 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: was the end of that story. 465 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: I feel like, honestly, both people, after being like she 466 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: was terrible, I feel like both of them grew a 467 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: little bit from this. 468 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: I agree. 469 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is which is what you want to see? 470 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: What you want to want to see. 471 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: We're in a bad situation. 472 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: It was, and it was a bad situation. Elena says, 473 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: Sam was so precious as a boyfriend. 474 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Oem G. 475 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam, your ogi host here, bring you back 476 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: to the stories. But here's three minutes bads from our sponsor. 477 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: My boyfriend hated that I live with my brother. What okay, 478 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: hey there, I'm wondering what you all think about this situation. Well, 479 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: I could probably offer you some good advice. 480 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Sophie and I live together and we are brothers. 481 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: Sister and I used to have a boyfriend. Some backstory. 482 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: Growing up, my brother twenty male and I twenty three female, 483 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: would fight a lot. Oh, these are nothing like us, 484 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: tell on each other all the time, a little bit 485 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: like us, et cetera. This changed when I went away 486 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: to college thirty minutes away, though I lived there. I 487 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 3: guess being apart from each other, plus him being in 488 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: high school and growing up and as a result having 489 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: more things in common with me, made us be friendlier 490 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: during the time we did get to spend together. He 491 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: then came to the same college, was a freshman while 492 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: I was a senior, but we were in school together 493 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: a little longer since I stayed in extra semester. During 494 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 3: this time, he became one of my closer college friends, 495 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: as we'd hang out a lot, both had people over 496 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: to my apartment for parties, gained some of each other's friends, 497 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: so we ended up with a lot of mutual friends. 498 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: This sounds just like you guys. 499 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot of mutual friends. 500 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: They just did in college. By the way, this comes 501 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: from want to be awake and if you want to 502 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: submit your own stories go to the r slash Okay, 503 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: storytime subured it. Oh. For my senior year of college, 504 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: I got an apartment with my then boyfriend. He moved 505 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 3: out last August, so my brother moved in last May, 506 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: so there was a bit of overlap. I'm so concerned 507 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: about the amount of people that are spamming in the chat. 508 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: We're going to break the chot. This worked out well 509 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: because it took some of the financial burden off of 510 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: my ex, who I was still dating at the time. 511 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: He just moved for a new job, and my brother, 512 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: who was very concerned about costs and picking the cheaper option, 513 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 3: would be paying less living off campus than on campus. 514 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: Flash forward to the end of summer. I ended up 515 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: with a new boyfriend twenty one mail and he ends 516 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: up moving in his house. Wasn't an ideal living situation. 517 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: My brother and boyfriend got along at first, but they 518 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: ended up hating living with each other. They'rey different personalities. 519 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: I wonder what whatever. 520 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 3: My brother is getting a new apartment in May so 521 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 3: it won't be an issue anymore. My main issue now 522 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: All along, my boyfriend has commented on how weird it 523 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: is that I live with my brother. 524 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Shut your mouth shut your mouth. You can live with 525 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: with your sister and it's fine. 526 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: You can live with your shiplin forever. 527 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: Forever and ever forever. 528 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Get a compound with your shipland. 529 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Play together, different houses. 530 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: But all connected by the shame patio. 531 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: Shut your mouth. 532 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: It blew me away that he thought this. I mean, 533 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: I lived with him for eighteen years. 534 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: That's a while. 535 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this was living with him alone. Now. My 536 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: parents obviously thought it was great that their children could 537 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: live together and look out for each other. Other people 538 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: I talked to told me it was cool that I 539 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: got to live with him at college. My boyfriend insists 540 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: that they were just saying that, because what else are 541 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 3: they gonna say. They're not going to call it weird 542 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: to your face. I dare anyone. I dare anyone to 543 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: call it weird to my face. Bite you, I dare 544 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: you one quote? Was I mean, you even share a 545 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: bathroom with him. I'm dairy to call it weird to 546 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: my face. 547 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Sophia and I do share a bathroom, and it's the 548 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: most wholesome thing ever, except when she takes a ten 549 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: hour oat bath. 550 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: I had to take an old meal bath. I had hide. 551 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: They do this to each other. 552 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: Hey, I need to get in there right now. I 553 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: gotta go. 554 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm planning to leave. Hey, I gotta get in there 555 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: right now. 556 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: I got plans Right now, I gotta go. 557 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: You're always in there whenever I need to go. 558 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: You're always in there when I need to go. 559 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: That's true. 560 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: Well, yes, as did I at home when we both 561 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: live with my parents. That's also true for us. We 562 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: had a Jack and Jel bathrooms. Jack and Jill bathroom 563 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: is when we have two, that's true. But I'm pretty 564 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: sure it's when you have connected. 565 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Well it's not connected. 566 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really don't get why this is strange. He 567 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: also says that he mentioned to other people that I 568 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: live with my brother and supposedly they thought that was 569 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: really weird. And it isn't like, oh, that's weird, but 570 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: whatever he thinks it's really weird. I feel like my 571 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: opinion that it's completely not weird is totally crazy because 572 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 3: he is so passionate about his side and I'm just like, 573 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: what are you serious, dude? 574 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: Get off what you say about my brother. 575 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Brother. 576 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: If you put your paws on my brother, those are 577 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: the laws. 578 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: But that I say say so. 579 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 3: Anyway, So I want other people's opinions. 580 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: At it, she says before before we go to the edit. 581 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your what's your opinion? Shut his mouth? 582 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: That boyfriend should shut his dumb mouth. Not weird to 583 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: live with your sister. I want to swear someone who 584 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: lives with their sister and they're so cool. 585 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: Bleep me right now, ready, kids, close your ears, give 586 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: you a moment you can shy your bout. I think 587 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: I got it, dude, this guy's crazy. This guy's crazy. 588 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: What do you mean it's weird? Why is it weird? 589 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: Why does he think it's weird? Give me one reason 590 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: that's not like, that's not going to make you sound 591 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: like a creep. Give me one good reason why I 592 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: shouldn't clock you. 593 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, clock and sakya pick you up and drop you. 594 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: There's an edit, he says. Everyone you talk to he 595 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: says it's weird. I say redd, it doesn't. He refuses 596 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: to tell me who says it's weird, because it's just him? 597 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: Why why tell me? 598 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: Why tell me? 599 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: Wan? 600 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: I never want to hear you say I don't want 601 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: you to live with your brother that way. 602 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: Which is my main problem with this? Right now resolved? 603 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I've never seen a resolve. 604 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: Resolved, resolved, we have we have done it. Okay, we 605 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: got to read it, Coop. 606 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: The unfortunate thing is that things eat me up until 607 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: I address them. So I was texting him about all 608 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: of this, but we both got home from work disgusted. 609 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: A lot of things were said, but we've resolved this 610 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: issue and are moving on. He even told me everyone 611 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: who agreed with him, except for one person who apparently 612 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: asked that he didn't tell me. So that's not an 613 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 3: issue anymore either. Thanks for your input. This is not over, 614 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: This is not resolved, and there are relevanconmics. We're not 615 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: even halfway today. 616 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: There is a brother boyfriend rivalry. There's an Alman blood 617 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: over love. 618 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: Dude, if my if I had a partner, who ever 619 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 3: said who was like, it's kind of weird that you 620 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: live with your brother, I I would I'd break up 621 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: with him on the spot. 622 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: And then and then I'd set my brother on him. 623 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I said get him, Sam. 624 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Get him, and I'd wear my face mask too. 625 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 626 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: So they couldn't. 627 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: They couldn't put you in the nose. They ain't gonna get. 628 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: You, change gonna get me. I'll just yeat him with 629 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: my little face mask. 630 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 3: Skin the Sun says. I think he's making up that 631 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: other people think it's weird. Hope. He says, he said, 632 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: like six people said it's weird. Oh my gosh, six people. 633 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: How many people think it's weird in this chat? 634 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? None, yeah, yeah, yeah, better be none. 635 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll throw you out, We will ban you. 636 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 3: From from the chat. Babe. I held a survey and 637 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: like a million people think it's weird. What well, we 638 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: just saw a poll about Sam's mustache. But I really 639 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: think he's making it up. I think it's a little 640 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: weird that he thinks it's weird. Hope, he says. He's 641 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: saying there are people I know, so he doesn't want 642 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: to tell me who. I asked if it's to protect 643 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: me or them, and he said them. I told him 644 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: about this post, and he said, people who browse Reddit 645 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: are also like weirdos and not like normal people in society. 646 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Get out of here, fight me. 647 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: This will be Sam right here. Yeah. 648 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: If you try to fight him, yeah, Like. 649 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: You have to have a few screws missing to be 650 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: a redditor and like the content and maintain his position. 651 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: You're about to have a few screws missing. Buddy, Dizzy 652 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: Moose is your boyfriend. 653 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: He's jealous of your brother right now? Yeah, you're messing 654 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: with my click. 655 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: You're messing with the You want the bear, you get the. 656 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: The bear pause. 657 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: If you want the If you want the whole bear, 658 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: you get that bear and more. Yeah, you get mama 659 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: bear and baby bear bears. 660 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: You get all. You get all. 661 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: You can't bear that many bears, you get on when 662 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: the bear bears. Three bears is a crowd, and that 663 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: crowd doesn't like you. 664 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: Zizzey Moose says, your boyfriend is jealous of your brother. 665 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: Did you hear me? Your boyfriend is jealous of your brother. 666 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: He doesn't see your brother as well your brother. He 667 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: sees your brother as a man a rival. Is why 668 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: he's making up people out of thin air who supposedly 669 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: insist this is weird. That is why you don't know 670 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: anyone else who thinks it's weird. That is why he's 671 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: even got an excuse for why people are supposedly lying 672 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: to you about it not being weird, because he's jealous, 673 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: because he's suspicious of your. 674 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Brother, your brother weirdo. 675 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: Mentally healthy people do not see a partner's siblings as rivals. 676 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: But your boyfriend does. That should tell you something. It 677 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: should tell you that it's time to find a new boyfriend, 678 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: one who isn't imagining some sordid, terrible relationship between you 679 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: and your brother. Opie says, well, here's the thing he did. 680 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: Used to be jealous and thought that our relationship itself 681 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: was weird. My brother can be physical, but all non 682 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: spicily playful, pushing sort of things, not really caring about 683 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: grabbing my arm, hand on shoulder, stuff like that. And 684 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: what's wrong with that? 685 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: What? What's the brother and sister can't hug? 686 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: He says, you, kiaja, what is the world coming to? 687 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: This is literally our relationship. It makes me angry that 688 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: he's commenting on it. It makes me angry. 689 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: We're throwing this boy out. 690 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: Out out of here. My boyfriend thought that was really 691 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: a thing weird. Well he still does. Did no one 692 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: hung you? Were you not hugged? Not? Boohoo? Go cry 693 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: in a hole? I said cry to be clear, and 694 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: really thought there was a spicy related element to it. 695 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: There isn't. 696 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy. You're I'm so watching too much Game of Thrones. 697 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: Also, I also want to say, like if he thought 698 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: that you and your brother had anything spicy going on 699 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: at all. 700 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: I still wanted to. 701 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: Date, still wanted to date you. 702 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: That's weird. 703 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: It's weird. That's weird. 704 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: That's weird. If that truly was what he thought, boyfriend's 705 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: a weirdo crazy hinta. 706 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: You can watch these days, man. He would get angry 707 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: jealous if I even talked to my brother laughed at 708 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: his jokes anything. Oh my god, this had been better. 709 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: But I think it's more just that he isn't vocalizing 710 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: it as much, which I really appreciate. 711 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: What do you mean, dude, this is a red flag. 712 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: You should this giant red flag. Oh my god. But 713 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: like recently, he was somewhere, so my brother and I 714 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: were just home and I got a chance to really 715 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: have a conversation with my brother for a change. My 716 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: boyfriend came home and asked if we talked. I told 717 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: him we did, and he said he was glad to 718 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: hear that we had a chance to. But then later 719 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: that night we ended up drinking a bit and he said, 720 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: oh good, I have to admit I really want to 721 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: know what you two were talking about. You swears it's 722 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: just an objective living with your brother is a weird 723 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: thing now though, and that it doesn't have anything to 724 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: do with his jealousy. I'm not breaking up with him. 725 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: Why not. It's honestly not a huge issue. Yes, it is. 726 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Is he's trying to control you. 727 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: Thinks you're having spicy stuff with your brother. With your brother, 728 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: that's disgusting. 729 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: He's a weirdo. 730 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: He's a freaking a weirdo. 731 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a freaky weirdo. Let's you cry in a hole? 732 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: Yes, more of something that I wanted to get other's 733 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: opinions on because we have such drastically different views and 734 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: are both so firm in them. We hadn't been arguing 735 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: about this or anything. I literally just recently thought posting 736 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: on Reddit would be a good idea to get an 737 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: unbiased view. He's great in most other ways, and the 738 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: good outweighs any disagreements we have. By far. I think 739 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: he's certainly mentally healthy. He's just got a strange view 740 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: on this. 741 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: Specifically, this is weird. 742 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: This is so weird, And in fact, he puts up 743 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: with a lot of crap on my end too, So 744 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: I give him that. Stop giving him things. What crap 745 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: does he put up? Oh? You forgot to put the 746 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: dishes in the dishwasher. 747 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: He puts up with the crap, you know, like live 748 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: with my brother. 749 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, oh, and he puts up with me, 750 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: like living with my brothers though you know he's an angel. 751 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: This is weird. This is weird. I feel like this 752 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: is a red flag. I feel flag. 753 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: Him getting trying to distance you from someone here you're 754 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: really close with is maybe just the tip of the 755 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: iceberg of the kind of isolation that he's trying to 756 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: get you to. 757 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: And like the thing is like, if this was just 758 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: your friend that you were living with, probably would do 759 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: the same thing, but could go even further, could convince 760 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: you that this is not okay. But because it's your brother, 761 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: that's enough of of like obviously. 762 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: And like he's not gonna let you have any male friendships. 763 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: If he's this it's crazy about your brother. Imagine what 764 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: he would be like if you had any kind of 765 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: male friend or like he leads your parents. 766 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: He's like, dude, your dad, Yeah, you're doing that's so weird. Disgusting, yeah, 767 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of gross. 768 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, and also your daddy, you know, like when 769 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 3: he has a kid, Like, like I feel like there 770 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: are sometimes like really weird dads, where like I can't 771 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 3: I can't take care of my bait, like my female baby. 772 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: That's like weird, Like that's like a thing. The thing, 773 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: it's a thing, and I feel like that's his energy. 774 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I I I feel like op is downplaying 775 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: a I think this is a small manifestation of a 776 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: large problem. 777 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: I think it's a glaring problem. 778 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: But like it's it's kind of like you have a 779 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: building that's like like like. 780 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: Laying a little bit to the side. 781 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like a tiny little bit, doesn't look that bad, 782 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: but the foundation is rotten and it's about to fall. 783 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: Like that's what it is. It's like it's like a 784 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: small thing on the surface. It's like, oh, he just 785 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 2: doesn't like my boyfriend a little jealous. But I think 786 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: that is again tip of the iceberg, and there's so 787 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: much just weirdness below the surface. I think if you 788 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: don't have like conversations without it, or if you don't 789 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: just get past it, it's got to be difficult that 790 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: to have this guy Yea in your life and have 791 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: any kind of male relationship. 792 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: I agree. And also, but the thing is like I 793 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: also think that she keeps saying, yeah, we had conversations 794 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 3: and he's agreed to like, you know, you just stop 795 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: mentioning blah blah blah. He's still thinking it, and I 796 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 3: think the fact that he's still thinking it is disgusting. 797 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, this is this is wild. This is wild. Sam. 798 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories, but here's 799 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: three of it's bads from our sponsors. 800 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: Five years later, pretty much, I made that post about 801 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 3: my boyfriend thinking it was very whoa five years later, 802 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 3: years later, Oh, oh my. 803 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: God, we might Yeah, what would you think? Broken up 804 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: or not? 805 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 3: I hope they're broken up. 806 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: I think they should be broken up. 807 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: Pretty much. I made that post about my boyfriend thinking 808 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: it was very weird that I live with my brother 809 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: at a point where my boyfriend and I have been 810 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 3: dating for a few months shy of a year. If 811 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: that was after a few months, I'd be like, get up. 812 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: One month after I made that post, my brother ended 813 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 3: up moving out anyway, and my boyfriend and I moved 814 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: to another apartment, all planned and just a matter of 815 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: the lease ending. So the situation has mostly resolved itself. However, 816 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: let me tell you only crap. I wish I would 817 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 3: have taken the advice given to me in this post. 818 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. 819 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: And I cringe reading through this five year old post 820 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: because a lot of the comments were so true and 821 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: I should have just left. I put up with this 822 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: crap for a total of four years before he broke 823 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: up with me for good. We actually broke up about 824 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: ten to twelve different times that lasted anywhere from a 825 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: few hours to a couple of weeks. 826 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Ten to twelve times. I thought I was bad. Ugh, 827 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: what breaking out with someone twice? 828 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: Oh, that's true, you did. Yeah. I think it was 829 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: more than twice, because I remember it was. It was 830 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: at a point this is Sam's ex. It was at 831 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: a point where Mom would call me and say, can 832 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 3: you like call Sam, you know, he's really upset about 833 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: the breakup, And I was like, they're back together. 834 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I think it was twice. 835 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: I didn't. I couldn't even keep up. 836 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: It was three it was three times? It well, it 837 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: was it was three times, but it was yeah, but 838 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 2: it was one final time. 839 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: The entire time, he was definitely jealous of my brother 840 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 3: pretty much. He ended up admitting that my brother was 841 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: a guy who commanded a room. People always looking to 842 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: him like he's sort of a leader in his friend 843 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: group and making people laugh. Wait wait wait, wait uh, 844 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: who do they call the group leader and the friend 845 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: groups group leader yet to ask the group leader for 846 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: permission to go to the bathroom. Oh yeah, wait, what 847 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 3: was the dark humor? 848 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I think it was it was Okay. 849 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 3: That was the type of person my now ex boyfriend 850 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 3: wanted to be, so he hated that my brother was that. 851 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 3: In fits of rage, even in a completely unrelated argument, 852 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: he would randomly be like, oh but you fed your 853 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: brother so much crap coming from him. But I think 854 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: that the combination of he and I in a relationship 855 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: together was just incredibly toxic. It made it so hard 856 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 3: for me to be able to think about things rationally. 857 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: If anyone said that to me, they're gone, They're gone. Disgusting. 858 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: That's literally disgusting. If someone ever. 859 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: Said stayed with him for so long after getting all this, 860 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: after hearing that, I mean, I'm glad, I'm glad that 861 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: she's finally out of it, but man, like, well, I 862 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: think we saw this. 863 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: We saw this in the first post. 864 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: For she was like, oh no, no, no, you guys 865 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: don't get it. We talked, he agreed, blah blah blah. 866 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 3: He never he never dropped that line of thinking. You know, 867 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 3: there was a comment in my original post about someone 868 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: wishing I could see the situation from the outside, and 869 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: looking back at the post, I feel like I finally 870 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: am and it's just cringeworthy. Someone had a messaged me 871 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: a list of signs of a harmful relationship, and looking back, 872 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: he definitely checks off most of those. I had said 873 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: that he rarely lies to me, but in retrospect, our 874 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: relationship was full of lies, some major ones that I 875 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: recall from before I made that post, So I'm not 876 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: sure if I was lying to myself then or what. 877 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left to this story. 878 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: Do you have any final thoughts? 879 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we called it in the beginning. 880 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm glad that ope the end of this relationship, but geez, Louise, Yeah. 881 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: I'm sorry if anyone's if anyone thinks that you ever 882 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: your relationship with your sibling is weird, unless it is weird, 883 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 3: some people have weird relationship with those Yeah. 884 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people have weird relationship. This isn't normal. 885 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: Affection is weird, like giving people hugs and living with 886 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: their sibling is not weird. 887 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: It's actually super sick. 888 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 3: It's actually so cool. 889 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: It's so cool. 890 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: And they're jealous. 891 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're jealous. Sophie and I watched Rick and Mortar 892 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: the other day. It was awesome. 893 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: But I think at the end of the day, I'm 894 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: glad you got either in a be aware of those signs. 895 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm in a much better place now and have a 896 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: new boyfriend for about two years. Does he like your brother? 897 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: I think the takeaway here and why I wanted to 898 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 3: post an update is for people perhaps in a similar situation, 899 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: regardless of what it might be about, to consider if 900 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 3: your esso is absolutely ridiculous when it comes to something, 901 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: don't expect it to be okay just because you can 902 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: maybe avoid that topic in the future. It's possible that 903 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 3: it will still come up. And it's very likely that 904 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: this isn't a red flag to ignore just because it's 905 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: easy to ignore. It's still a raging red flag and 906 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 3: adds a lot of implications for your relationship in the future. 907 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 3: Relevant comments Vital to Life says, hope your ex didn't 908 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: do anything to damage your relationship with your brother. It 909 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 3: sounds like you're both people who care immensely about each other, 910 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 3: and I hope you're still close. Hope, he says, nope, 911 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: but probably because my brother was understanding and realized how 912 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: manipulative he was. At one point, my ex forced me 913 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: to ask him to move out in a it's either 914 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: him or me type of move, and I did, but 915 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: my brother didn't exactly have anywhere to go mid semester. 916 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: I think this is Monday. That was that whole situation. 917 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: I apologize to my brother about that later and explained 918 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: to him, and he said it was all good. What 919 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: bothered him the most was that we never hung out anymore. 920 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 3: Now is the brother doing. He's good as well. Was 921 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 3: very forgiving of the situation and pretty much saw through 922 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 3: everything and always knew how crappy the guy was, so 923 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: he was honestly relieve when we broke up. Yeah. Yeah, 924 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: but folks, that's the end of that story. 925 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 2: Before we wrap up the episode, I wanted to lead 926 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: some comments from a previous episode. So on the video 927 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 2: my wife is obsessed with her friend and I want 928 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: a divorce. It was posted on July twenty third. Most 929 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: of the comments are related to the first story, so 930 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 2: here's a short TLDR. A man's wife harassed her former 931 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 2: best friend Laura for a year, using fake LinkedIn profiles, 932 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: sending diffamatory messages to Laura's coworkers and husband, claiming she 933 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: was a substance user and cheater. Yeah, I remember this story, Dan, 934 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: she was. Yeah, it was crazy. She was like ridiculously 935 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: obsessed with this person. She even crashed Laura's baby shower. 936 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: Laura successfully sued, forcing the couple to empty their savings 937 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: money that will take four to five years to re build. 938 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 2: And also, the husband was completely blameless in this story. 939 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: The harassment stemmed from jealousy after seeing Laura had lost 940 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 2: weight and appeared successful. The husband considers divorce as his 941 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: wife shows no genuine remorse and resists therapy. If you're 942 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 2: curious you know the full story, you should go watch 943 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: the full video. But let's read some comments from y'all. 944 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: From Rosetta Allan, being a horrid bully is not a 945 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: mental illness. Using mental illness as a term for these 946 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: things honestly just hurts people suffering mental illness. She chose 947 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 2: her actions, It's because she had postpartum and so like 948 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: some of it was blamed on it. I do think 949 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: still like there still might have been a little seed 950 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: of her actions that was from mental illness, and she 951 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: needs help, But I do not think that is a 952 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: full reason for her actions. Nine Tailed Fox seventy nine 953 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 2: says Opie definitely needs a divorce, but he needs to 954 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: be careful. If his wife could try to destroy someone's 955 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: life for a year just because she was being a 956 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 2: petty wench, what will she do to the man who 957 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: divorced her. OPI needs to go to a lawyer and 958 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: make sure everyone knows what she did so she can't 959 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 2: do it to him either before he divorces. Maybe get 960 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: a restraining order. Also, he needs therapy to understand how 961 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: he missed all of the red flags. Yeah, no, I 962 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 2: completely I completely agree with this. I think something Sophie 963 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: and I often say is like be forthright when you're 964 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: ending a relationship unless you're in danger. And I feel like, honestly, 965 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: OPI could have been in danger. Wenda lov One said 966 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: I had a friendship like this. She was beyond toxic, 967 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: so I had to talk and ended the friendship. That's 968 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: when the harassment started, CPS calls, in letters to my 969 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: parents and in laws, accusing me and my husband of 970 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 2: being addicts, and neglectful and even starving our kids. 971 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we read a story like that too. 972 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I had to go through the entire thing 973 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: of clearing her names, tests, doctor visits, and visits from 974 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: CPS to prove our innocence. It was very traumatic. She 975 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: had the nerve to admit it and said I should 976 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 2: have been more mature than cut off the friendship, me 977 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: being immature. One roll, okay, Jane. I told her not 978 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: to forget what I knew about her over our friendship 979 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 2: and to stoop before I match your energy, but instead 980 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 2: with the truth, basically saying like I can use all 981 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: this against you, all this this BS that you put 982 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: me through. It went quiet after that, thankful it did, 983 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: But I always did consider how more she would have 984 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: escalated it if she didn't have so many skeletons in 985 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 2: her closet. People like this are very scary because there's 986 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: no line they won't cross. Jess Smith says, petty revenge 987 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: my mom and I do against her sisters, my aunts. 988 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: Every summer we find a tomato that looks like a 989 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: butt and go doorbell ditch it on their doorsteps. My 990 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 2: one aunt started it, so we decided the next year 991 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 2: to go get revenge. This is the time type of 992 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 2: revenge level we need. Nobody gets hurt. It is cheap 993 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: and everyone laughs and sp zix Mey says OMG Dakota 994 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 2: pulling out the baby picks for a little feeling reset 995 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: love it no need to over trigger ourselves. 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