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Speaker 1: and welcome into an instant reaction on a Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: So listen, we could break down the Packers and the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles O line completely dominated the football game. There

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Speaker 1: was a reason they were about a touchdown favorite. And

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has banged up. I suggested a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, it's time to shut him down. They're now

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Speaker 1: four and eight. You know, there are a couple of

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Speaker 1: games behind other teams, like the Giants or the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks still have to play the Rams twice, so Green

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Speaker 1: Bass playoff hopes are done, completely done. And I think

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Speaker 1: the story of the game, at least from a Green

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Speaker 1: Bay perspective, was Jordan Love. So Jordan Love is the

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Aaron Rodgers had declined for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, slightly marginal decline erosion, and so

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Speaker 1: they drafted Jordan Love, and of course, Aaron Rodgers inspired

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Speaker 1: I remember making calls on Jordan Low with a couple

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Speaker 1: He was a little loose with his mechanics. And the

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Speaker 1: second thing, he was immature. He just wasn't ready to

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Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback. He was like twenty one year

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Speaker 1: old kid, right. So now he's twenty four. His birthdays

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Speaker 1: five in the middle of a season. We all watched

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Speaker 1: I thought he was significantly more confident and comfortable than

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Speaker 1: So the learning curve, you know, it's pretty intense when

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Speaker 1: you go from college of the NFL, but extra time,

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Speaker 1: especially when you go from Utah State to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's different. Bama, it's different, you know, Oklahoma, Texas Power

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Speaker 1: For most of my life, almost all of it, the

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Speaker 1: people say, Colin, you like this team or that team.

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Speaker 1: and I said, timeout, time out. Timeout. It takes longer

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Speaker 1: kind of rooting for the Raiders. Speaking of Sean Peyton,

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Speaker 1: It feels like the only way the Chargers can win

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Speaker 1: Despite the fact Mike Williams wasn't available, their Pro Bowl

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