1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 3: Everybody? 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck with you? Buck? 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: How are you doing? Man? 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Hey? Go on? Man? Coming up on the weekend. It's 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: been a great football week Got another look football weekend. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: This should have some very interesting and compelling games. And DJ, 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: we've reached a point of the season, must win week, 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: so we must win games. Yeah, we're gonna have it. Yeah. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Those oh and three stats are not great, man, When 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: you start oh and three, not a lot of love there. 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: So oh and two starts Since nineteen ninety twenty five 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: or sorry, thirty five of the two hundred and eighty 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: eight teams to start oh and two made the playoffs. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: That's twelve point two percent after an oh and two start. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Say it is a chance, Yeah, you got a shot there. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Last year the Broncos, Ravens, and Rams all pulled it off. 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Only four of one hundred and sixty five teams to 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: start oh and three, however, I've made the playoffs. That 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: is two point four percent. And no team has ever 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl after starting oh and three? 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: Oh Buck, have you. 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: Been on any any teams you remember where it started 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: out kind of rough and you're just sitting here going like, 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: oh gosh, we might just lost the whole season in 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: the first two three games. 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: No, not not that. Ruugh the most dire situation that 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: I've been in. Uh in Jacksonville we were three and six, 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: and but we ended up nine and seven. So I 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: turned it around. Look at the glass at pool. Hey, 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: we always can do it, no matter what, we can 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: turn this thing around. So that's what some of the 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: fans need to do. We can turn this thing around. 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: give you some I'm gonna give you the teams here, 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: the oh and two teams, and I'm going to tell 38 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: you who we should be most excited or confident about 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: that the rebound is going to take place here. So 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to list them off here. We've got Houston, 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: We've got Kansas City, We've got Tennessee. We've got the 42 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: New York Jets. We have the Cleveland Browns and the 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. That's in the AFC. So let's start first 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: of all there. Then we'll go to the NFC. So Houston, 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Tennessee, the Jets, Cleveland, Miami. Let's uh, let's start. 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Let's go with the let's go with a little let's 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: go with the percentage. So I want you to give 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: me your confidence percentage that this thing can get turned around, 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: and we'll start with the Houston Texans. Uh, seventy five percent. 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: I believe they Oh, oh you're confident then huh Yeah. 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: I think the division plays to this strep even though 52 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 2: in an APIs rent out to two and zero, there's 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: a sense that they can come back to the pack. 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: Jacksonville that won and won Tennessee, you're the text. You 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: won a division the last two years. You kind of 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: know what it is. You have all those games ahead 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: of you, so you can make up ground. This defense 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: still has the pieces to be lights out and if physicality, 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: the toughness, and the Demico Ryans factor gives them a 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: chance on offense, whether or not they become the explosive 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: outfit and Demiko Rians may just have to go like 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: they just don't lose the game. We can be going 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: defense to win it. That's why I'm confident the division 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: and their defense gives them a chance to get back 65 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: on trick. Yeah. 66 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the only thing about the division is 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I think that INDI is better than we thought they 68 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: were going to be, So that doesn't look so great. 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: I would love to give you this answer after this 70 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: week when they play your Jacksonville Jaguars, to see what 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: that looks like. But in their defense, they've played two 72 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: good teams, two playoff teams, the Rams and the Bucks. 73 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: They've been in both these games all the way down 74 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: to the end. So that should give you confidence. You know, 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I'll double up. I'll go seventy five with you, just 76 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of here in the argument. Here in the case, 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: I love the defense so much that being said, the 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: twenty five percent doubt is based one hundred percent on 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line. For me, I'm not worried about c. J. 80 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Stroud as much as I'm worried about that offensive line. 81 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a scary deal. They haven't been 82 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: good upfront, they've been inconsistent, and the scheme hasn't quite 83 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: messed with the quarterback. Those things didn't come play. But 84 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: until that happens, I'm telling man, if you just don't 85 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: give it away, we get hangs. Because think about it, 86 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: they didn't play great against Tampa. They're right there. I 87 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: mean the two games they lost, they've been there because 88 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: the defense is solid, all right. 89 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: This is the one I think people are probably the 90 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: most surprised by the Kansas City Chiefs sitting here and 91 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: going too. 92 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: Uh, let's go sixty percent. And the sixty percent is 93 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: a bit of a stretch just due to the championship pedigree. 94 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: It's the pedigree and Pat Mahomes to the two piece. 95 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: They've been in this situation. They understand how to get 96 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: to the winter Circle. If they're close, they'll find a 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: way to get in. If they're close, they have Pat 98 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: Mahomes who can put on the cape and figure out 99 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: a way to wield them in. Outside of that, there 100 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: are a lot of questions. Offencially, they don't have enough playmakers. 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: They haven't been able to create it. The backfield is pedestrian. 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: We talked about all the alliteration, a lot of PE's 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: and some of those PE's don't go in their way. 104 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: They need to find a way to run the ball 105 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: so they can find a way to create those big plays. 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: Haven't been able to do it. And then Spags is 107 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: a great defensive coordinator, but they are more of a 108 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: selective stop team more so than a shut them down team, 109 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: and when your offense is an explosive, it's hard to 110 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: rely on the defense. That's likely. 111 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to panic here. I mean I 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: don't think they've played well e they're missing those receivers. 113 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: That's a big part of the problem here. My concern 114 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: is almost more with who they're playing versus who they are. 115 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the schedule's tough. They've got Detroit coming up, 116 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: They've got Baltimore coming up inside the division. You still 117 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: got to get Denver twice, Vegas twice or you know, 118 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: Vegas is gonna be competitive, competitive, You've got a road 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: trip to Buffalo. All of a sudden, Indie looks like 120 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: that's not not a cakewalk. The Cowboys are going to 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: score points. You've got Houston, I mean, not an easy run, man. 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: And you're starting out a little cold here this this 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: next two weeks. And somehow they if they could, somehow, 124 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, win at the Giants this week, which is 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: very doable. Then you come back, you get the Ravens 126 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: at home. That's the that to me is the barometer there. 127 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: If you could, if you they could win their next 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: two games, we got I know, the Ravens are outstanding, 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: but that is in Kansas City. If they can somehow 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: win that game, now you're two and two. I think 131 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: they're fine, but I think there's a very real chance 132 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: they're looking at being a one in three team, and 133 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: that creates some doubts. So I'm gonna I'm gonna again, 134 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna echo your sixty and say that's 135 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: a fair number. I think you got to go better 136 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: than fifty percent with the quarterback and the head coach. 137 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: But Buck, they don't have a running back that excites me. 138 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: They can't get the ball vertically down the field at all, 139 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: and I know that's part of the receiver issue. And defensively, 140 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that there is dominant is. I think 141 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: they look tired. They've played a lot of football over 142 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: the last five years. 143 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: But DJ, this is one from the Good Book where 144 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: we're talking about faith. We're talking about thing's unseen. We're 145 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: hoping for things that we haven't seen from them. This 146 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: is what it is. We haven't seen it, but we're 147 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: faithful that the quarterback, the pedigree gives them a chance. 148 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: But there's not a lot of tangible evidence that would 149 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: tell through two weeks get it. 150 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Turned if you if you divorced yourself from the helmet 151 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: and the uniform and just saw I'm just evaluating that 152 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: football team. Not great, No, there's not a lot, but 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna stick with it. All right, we can go 154 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: faster through the rest of these here, Tennessee. Give me 155 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: a number on them. I'm at that's who they are. 156 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: That's that's a ten chance of them running it around. 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. It was from zero to 158 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: ten for me. They're not good enough team. They got 159 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: a young quarterback, they're just not ready. It's not many 160 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: young guys, man, DK. Let's get him rolling. Let's get 161 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: these young whiteouts in the mix. Let's just turn Let's 162 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: just go all young. The problem that you have, coach, 163 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: are the coach and the personnel people on the same 164 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: timeline when it comes to getting it. That's what makes 165 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: it hard, because if we're on the same timeline, DJ, 166 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: then we can go all day on playing the young 167 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: guys in let's progress over the season to get ready 168 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six. I think it's long rage playing. 169 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: If that's what we're gonna do, we'll see if they're 170 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: on the same page. 171 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a Hey, we need to play 172 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: the young guys. Let's get these guys up and running, 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: like well, hey, well, do I have assurances I'm gonna 174 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: be back. No, But I'm just telling you it's in 175 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: your interest to play the young guys. Like I can't. 176 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: I can't make any promises, but let's let's evaluate the 177 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: young part of our roster. 178 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: The Jets. 179 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: I'll go maybe a little bit higher there because I 180 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: think the defense, you know, can can still be better 181 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: than they've been, and you know, the run game and 182 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: we'll see the adjustment fields back healthy. I'm gonna put 183 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: them at a twenty. 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: Buck yeahy twenty five percent. Look, man, they are talented. 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I know they've kind of been the team 186 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: where we're talking about the talent for so long, but 187 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: they're talented enough to do it. Is Ken Aaron Glynn 188 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: find a way to put it together. They need the 189 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: run a game to be a big part of it 190 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: because the running game will compliment them in terms of 191 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: how they want to play on defense. 192 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: But until we get the running game up and going, 193 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's reasonable Cleveland. I'll go ten. 194 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm I think ten's as low as I'm not not too. 195 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna go zero. Yeah, that's fair. 196 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: The quarterback, man, the quarterback, the quarterbacks? 197 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: When are you turning? When are you turning that over 198 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: to Dylan Gabriel? 199 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: Man? Now, I mean, like to me, they should have 200 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: played the young guys from the jump, like, who would 201 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: we fooling put the young guys in? Let's see what 202 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: it is like. Man, those guys know they don't have 203 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: a reasonable chance. And I like Joe Flacco, but DJ, 204 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: everybody that's forty years old is not meant to play 205 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: the position. And if you can't protect themselves, you can't move. 206 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: Man in today's game, you're limited. He's a sitting duck 207 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: in the pocket. They need to flip it over. Maybe 208 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: they can't catch a spark. If I would do it, 209 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: but it's not gonna happen to put one of those 210 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 2: junk guys in. 211 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: So my uh, if I was it was my office 212 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: in there, buck, this is a I would be like 213 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: an elementary school teacher. If I was sitting there in 214 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: the GM job, I would have somebody render a huge 215 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: bus and I would have and put all these little 216 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: seats on the bus and I go, I go. Guys 217 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: like philosophica. This year, this is the twenty twenty six 218 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns bus. We're going to find out who these 219 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: little we have little images everybody who gets to be 220 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: on that bus next year. That's our goal is to 221 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: figure out who's on that bus for next year and 222 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: starting places. 223 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly what's a little player? 224 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: Hey, these old guy not not going to be on 225 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: next year's bus, So why are we playing him. Let's 226 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: play the guys who have a chance to be on 227 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: this group going forward for the next time. That we're 228 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: a good football team. So I think that's that's pretty 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: easy to understand. Miami not confident there, Buck, I'll go 230 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: eight percent. I don't know, I don't I don't love 231 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: what's going on. Their offensive line is very good. It's 232 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: just the whole thing's stale. 233 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: It man, it is so crazy. A team that was 234 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: celebrated for their opfensive ingenuity, their creativity, the explosiveness, all 235 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: that this team doesn't have a chance. That they're gone. 236 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: I think they've not only lost confident, it's in themselves. 237 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: You have the point where you're hoping the head coach 238 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: can answer some of the problems that are coming up. 239 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: But look, Man, I just don't know where they go 240 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: from here. DJ, like they can talk about a new 241 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: culture in those things, but it just doesn't look right. 242 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: And when it doesn't look right, it just it tends 243 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: not to turn around. So we'll see. They're talented. I 244 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: just know if they can get to turn around. Done. 245 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get over to the NFC. The over 246 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: teams on the NFC side, we go to that list. Here, 247 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: we've got Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, and the Giants. I 248 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: think there's more optimism and hope with some of these 249 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: AFC teams versus some of these NFC teams. 250 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that said, the reality kind of hits 251 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: us really hard in the NFC in terms of how 252 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: ball we have to go. Let's start with Carolina Panthers. 253 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: I saw them up close and personal, DJ. They've done 254 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: a really good job of trying to put together the 255 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: pieces in the off season. Far behind the people in 256 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: the division, the top teams in the division. When I 257 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: think about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and even the Atlanta 258 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,239 Speaker 2: Falcons when I look at them, just just a noticeable 259 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: difference talent and all of that. They can close to get. 260 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: But I don't think they can get in the mix. 261 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: I'll give them a fifteen to twenty percent chance. 262 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to eight percent on that one. I 263 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: just don't think they have enough firepower. Man, I don't 264 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: think they have enough firepower. But in some ways, this 265 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: year will be a success if Bryce Young leans one 266 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: way or the other, like if he see mentally got 267 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: to know that he's going to figure it out or 268 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: he's not, and then you can move on. But I 269 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: think that's going to be how this season is determined 270 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: to be a success or not. The New Orleans Saints, 271 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of us had high expectations there. 272 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think they've actually been 273 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: more competitive than I thought they would be. 274 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: I would say that too. I would say the Spencer 275 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: Ratler situation has been a bit of a surprise to me, 276 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: the way that they've been able to compete. They got 277 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 2: a bunch of prideful veterans that are helping them to 278 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: stay uploat. Look, I don't think they're serious contender, but 279 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: I think they're competitive. I think Kevin Moore can look 280 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: at his team. If they get the six seven wins, 281 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: I would think they would be a success. 282 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: For him as his first year first year coach. Well, 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: I mean they're going to be going four. They're at 284 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: Seattle next and then they're at Buffalo, so they're going 285 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: to start out on four. And then then you get 286 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: the Giants in New England Chicago like they've got a chance 287 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: to try and you know, get some wings in there. 288 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, get some ones in there. 289 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: But I'm not I mean, I'll go with that ten percent, 290 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: but they're not going to be a playoff team Chicago. 291 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: I think to me, I thought it was better offensively, 292 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: at least with with Caleb second week versus the first week. 293 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: He went back through all that stuff. He played on schedule, 294 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: within the structure. I thought the first half, even early 295 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: into the second half, you saw him make some nice rows. 296 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: I thought he got hit a little bit after that, 297 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: I thought there were some bodies around his feet and 298 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: then you start seeing the ball spray around a little bit. 299 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: So I only tackles are very good for all to 300 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: talk about them fixing their interior and the tackles are 301 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: not good. 302 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: So there's still issues there. 303 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: But I do believe in Ben Johnson, and I do 304 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: believe Caleb's going to get better as we go through 305 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: and they have. They have enough talent on defense to 306 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: be better than what they showed against Detroit. So I 307 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: might put them of the NFC. They're the They're the 308 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: top contender of these zero to two teams. For me, 309 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: I'll put them at like thirty percent that they can 310 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: get this thing right. 311 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,239 Speaker 2: I think so, and I think what has happened. Unfortunately 312 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: for the Bears, they had ridiculous expectations coming into the season. 313 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Some of that is what Ben Johnson did in Detroit 314 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: and believe believing that he could take the magic wand 315 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: sprinkle the pixie dust over the Bears and they were 316 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: going to be like the version of the Detroit lines 317 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: and that's just not true. But I believe in the 318 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: second half of the season, when their confidence comes together, 319 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: when they begin to believe and trust in all the systems, 320 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: this can be a team that plays much better down 321 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: the stretch. Is a reasonable thing, that can be a 322 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: very competitieam, they're talented enough to be competitive. 323 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this next team is uh. 324 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I feel like has figured out one of our themes 325 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: and one of our mottos here on the show, which is, 326 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: as a team, it's okay to be bad. It's okay 327 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: to be boring. You can't be bad and boring. And 328 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: the Giant's actually been kind of fun. It's kind of 329 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: fun to watch them against the Dallas Cowboys. So they've 330 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: eliminated the boring part of it. 331 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: That's good. I mean, that's that's that's a big part 332 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: of the equation. At least entertain I go there for 333 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: three three and a half hours. I want to be entertained, 334 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: see some scoring, see the ball flyer around the yard, 335 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: look at the league neighbors, you know, have some things 336 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: on individual accomplishments that we can go make my fantasy 337 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: team look good. 338 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: All of those things work, but that division, those teams 339 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: forget about. Yeah you go, we go five percent on 340 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I go five, I go five. I'm 341 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: them t Look, I think they've got some good front 342 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: players on the defensive line. And then I am excited. 343 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: I know, rush through for darn near five hundred yards 344 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: last week, but I am excited for Jackson Darnead. Look, 345 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: let's be exciting. Let's let's be an exciting team. And 346 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: I am excited to see at least the second half 347 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: of the season. We're going to see, you know, Malik 348 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: neighbors out there with Jackson Dart and that's gonna be 349 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of fun to watch. They got to get the 350 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: left tackle back man they miss him, Andrew Thomas. Get 351 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: him back and healthy and rocking and rolling. So we'll 352 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: see what happens with the New York Giants. So there's 353 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: your zher and two teams. Let's take a quick break, 354 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll look at some of these two 355 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: and oh teams that we were believing it or maybe 356 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: we have some questions about right after this. All right, buck, 357 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: let's rip through these two and oh teams and I'll 358 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: just ask you for one of each. So I'll give 359 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: you the two and O team, the one you're most 360 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: confident in, and then the one that you're you're questioning here. 361 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: So if we go to the AFC, you got the Colts, 362 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Bills, the Bengals. 363 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Hard to believe those are the those are the only 364 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: four undefeated teams, and obviously the Bengals with the Joe 365 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: Burrow situation, the Colts on the Daniel Jones Indiana Jones 366 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: ride that they're having a lot of fun on. And 367 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: then you've got I think the Bills and the Chargers 368 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't be as much of a surprise as maybe those 369 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: other two considering the circumstances with Burrow. 370 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't. I'm gonna go with your team. I'm 371 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: gonna go with the Chargers in terms of what I 372 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: believe in and the ones that look their contentents when 373 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: I look at them. DJ it is it is a 374 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: slow death that Jim Harbo has always orchestrated for every 375 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: team that he's ever coached USD, Stanford Niners, Michigan Charge. 376 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: It is this death match where they almost put you 377 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: in the sleeper hole right and you're flopping the arm 378 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: up and you're waiting for the other team to go 379 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: to sleep, and it twenty to nine went over the Raiders. Look, man, 380 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: that score looks one way, but it's almost like they 381 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: had Pete Carroll just choked up, and you're just waiting, 382 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: like Pete, how long? How long before we put you out? 383 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: That's what the just do. And the fact that they've 384 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: kind of found some explosives. Gwyn Johnson, you have lat 385 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: McConkie Keenan Allen, the explosive of us in the passing attack, 386 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: and we know they're gonna finally get the running game right, 387 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: they're there, But I'm gonna tell you I don't believe 388 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: it because of the defense. The defense doesn't let the 389 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: ball flower the head. They match routes well, they play 390 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: zone defense, they can do it rushing for dropping seven. 391 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: It's just a well ballance team. And that's why I 392 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: believe they're going. Yeah, and they know who they are. 393 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: And the longer you have the leadership in place, when 394 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: you have clear direction, know who you are and what 395 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: you are, the better they're going to get a great example. 396 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: So Khalil Mack gets hurt, who do they bring in? 397 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: They brought in Cleveland Ferrell. So why him? 398 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: Because if you look at the Baltimore teams that Joe 399 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: Hortiz was around, if you look at the teams that 400 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh has always coached, their edge guys are physical 401 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: edge setters. 402 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: You look at the charters. 403 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Now you've got Khalil Mack on Bud Dupree is a 404 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: bullying on one's to is a bully on the other side. 405 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: And now you bring in Cleveland Ferrell. So they're not 406 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: looking for little fastballs to throw off the edge. They're 407 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: looking for power edge setting guys who are gonna collapse 408 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: a pocket a little bit as a rusher, but you're 409 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna set a firm edge in the run game because 410 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: now we can play with those safeties in the parking 411 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: lot because we don't have soft edges. You're not going 412 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: to get to us that way. So they know exactly 413 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: what they're doing, who they are, and what they're about. 414 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: And I played FIFA man many many years ago, but 415 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: I played with my boys when they were young, and 416 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: I got started to get into it, and I remember 417 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: seeing the like you do the different defensive stuff, and 418 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: it was like park the Bus I think was the 419 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: name of it, which was they just like you to 420 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: pull your whole defense pulls back und so you're you just, yeah, 421 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: protecting the goal. 422 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: We played possession, Yeah, a possession. We're gonna hold that's 423 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: what we're doing. We're gonna hold on to it. It's 424 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: gonna frustrate you. These games are going to be twenty 425 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: to nine, they're gonna be like man, but I just 426 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: feel like we did. But it just is the slow Yeah, 427 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: that's why I say it's the sleeper hole. Is we 428 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: lock you up? Yep, you know that's just what it is. 429 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: I mean, no, yeah, so I'm look, I don't think that. 430 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills are going anywhere, you know, 431 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: coming off of a game on we just saw them 432 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins here, so they're an undefeated team. So 433 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: you get the Bills the Chargers. I'm a little bit 434 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: you know how about this. This is the question between 435 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: the Colts and the Bengals. Considering you've got Browning and 436 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I know that all the other star power 437 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: they've got on Cincinnati, but I think I have to 438 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: lean towards Indianapolis being more confident. 439 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: They're way more confident in Indianapolis. And the reason why 440 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm more confident is this is finally Chris Ballad being 441 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: able to put it together. We have talked about the 442 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: last two years. We talked about their drafting process and 443 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: how they've gone and got all the freaks, all the 444 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: explosive athletes. May not be refined as players, but they're 445 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: going to developed it well. Now on offense, you have 446 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: someone that you can trust to get the ball to 447 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: those guys. And DJ. As much as we talk about 448 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: the NFL and the schemes x's and o's versus Jimmy 449 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: and Joes, and I have more explosive athletes. I get 450 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: the ball to them a bunch of times. At some point, 451 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: my explosive players are gonna make place. I eat Jonathan Taylor, downs, 452 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, all those guys they do. Then defensively, lou 453 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: and Aromo being able to take all these dynamic, explosive 454 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: guys and put them together in a defense that is man. 455 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: It's like a chameleon. There's so many different things that 456 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: you see. To me, they're built the right way, which 457 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: is why as much as I would love to discount 458 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: them as a due to my affiliation with the Jags. Yeah, 459 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous that they're back. Yeah. 460 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: No, I think you direct to be a little nervous there. 461 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: Let's get over to the NFC. We look at the 462 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: teams here. I want you to give me one team 463 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: that you are all in on. Another team. Maybe you 464 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: have some concerns about the two and O teams Packers, Niners, Eagles, Bucks, Cardinals, Rams. 465 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: Those are your undefeated teams in the NFC. Who are 466 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: you most confident in those undefeated teams? 467 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Go, Pack Go. I'm confident in the Packers all the way. 468 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm even digging out my old T shirts from 469 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: my time there. They are They're built to last man 470 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: and it's funny Michael Parson's going there. The impact his 471 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: arrival has had on their defense has been really eye opening. 472 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: The fact that he has been able to put other 473 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: guys in favorable matchups for Sean Gary, you see Lucas Vans, 474 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: you see Eddrin Cooper, what their presence upfront has done 475 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: for the back end in Jeff Affley's defense. All of that, 476 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: the confidence that they have when it comes to closing 477 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: out games because this defense is relentless, plays at a 478 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: high effort. They can get after and then offensively said this, 479 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: this team can operate with two straws during the drink, 480 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: have the ability to let Josh Jacobs stir to drink 481 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: with the running game, or they can lean into Jordan Love. 482 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: As these receivers get comfortable. To me, they have more 483 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: pass to victory. They look to other teams in the 484 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: league because I think they can get it done offenousively defensively, 485 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: they can do it running, passing, whatever it is. They 486 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: have a bunch of ways to get to the winner circle. 487 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess I wouldn't just lean towards the 488 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: team that won the Super Bowl last year with Philly, 489 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's where we're headed as a collision 490 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: course between those two teams. That's what it feels like 491 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: at this point in time through a couple of weeks. 492 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: But with Philly, I think that little audio clip said 493 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: everything last week. Yeah, of like you're going to brag 494 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: about yards we have with the set and the other 495 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: like we're just about winning games, man, Like we won 496 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: the game. 497 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: Whatever we got to do to win the game, we're 498 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: gonna win the game. 499 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: And that, to me is that's dangerous when you get 500 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't play well and I don't think 501 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: they did really at all in that game offensively, they 502 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: won a game and they find a way to do it. 503 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: And guess what, when it starts clicking, they're gonna start 504 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: blowing people out. But in the meantime, they just find 505 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: a way to get it done and win ball games. 506 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: That to me is a that's a sign of a 507 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: team that's mature. 508 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: What's scary about the Philadelphia Eagles is that so the 509 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: same things that you talk about with Jim Harbard and stuff, 510 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: and how they've kind of figured out who they are 511 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: to me when I look at the Eagles, I look 512 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: at the vintage New England Patriots, not in terms of 513 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: stylistically but in terms of them understanding and mastering the 514 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 2: art of winning. Mastering the art of winning is what 515 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: do we need to do today to win the game, 516 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 2: And having a bunch of players was selfless enough to 517 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: be able to do that. So that video exchange that 518 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: you talk about with Jalen and Chris Jones, when the 519 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: quarterback is on board, hey man, I could care less 520 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: about my numbers. I'm about winning. Well, what does that mean? 521 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: He's not arguing with the court and he's like, hey man, 522 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: we need to a couple more passes this, and that 523 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: they've seemingly got everyone on board that the only thing 524 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: that matters for us is winning. And when they've paid 525 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: everybody and people aren't playing for contracts, it allows you 526 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: to get more of that. They're scary because they figured 527 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: that out, and as a young team figured out early 528 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: it had you have an opportunity to have a dynastic 529 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: run where you're always in the conversation as the last 530 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: team standing. 531 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: I have no doubt. 532 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: All right, how about a team that you're worried about? 533 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: There of those undefeated teams. Uh, it's Packers, Niners, Eagles, Bucks, Cardinals, Rams. 534 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: So between the Niners, the Bucks, Cardinals, Rams, who would 535 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: you say, you're not necessarily buying the two and oh start. 536 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: So here's the funny thing, DJ, I really like all 537 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: those teams that have gotten out to the fast starts. 538 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: The team that I point out that's a little different 539 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: than the others, I would say the Cardinals. And the 540 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: only reason I would point out the Cardinals is because 541 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: the unknown, like, they're not the two teams that they 542 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: should have beaten. And the unknown part is is they 543 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: take Can they take their game up a notch when 544 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: it's time to step into the ring with the heavyweights 545 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: and calla Murray in particular, take his game, uts take 546 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: take his game up to the point where he can 547 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: be the guy that leads his team in a shootout 548 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: within us about the quarterback knocking off the other quarterback. 549 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: That is the only reason why I can't fully endorse 550 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: him as the team. I won't say that he's the weekly, 551 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: but he's the biggest question and he'd be the difference 552 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: maker when we get to those gotta have it moments 553 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: in games. 554 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say the Niners, just because the 555 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: injury bug just seems to always strike these guys, man, 556 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: just for where some of their key players are in 557 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: their career or the track record just staying healthy is. 558 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: It's legitimately a concern of mine. So that's why I 559 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: would say of these teams, the Niners would concern me 560 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: the most. So there you have it, Buck, there's kind 561 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: of the look at the teams that are off to 562 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: the hot and not so hot starts what we think 563 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: about their future here as we go forward, and really 564 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: looking forward to a great slate of games this weekend. 565 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: If I was going to give you one game, I'm 566 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: looking four two over any other, I would say Rams 567 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Eagles that that is going to be a physical fight. 568 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what that looks like. And 569 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: then of course we get to Monday Night Lions Ravens. 570 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good one as well. That is 571 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: always a good one. Those two teams square off. Man, 572 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: It's been some fun games to watch. 573 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a good slate of games, cowed slate man, 574 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: just so so. 575 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: But we will be back next week on a Monday 576 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: with Baldi where we can go and break down everything 577 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: that we've seen on the weekend. Until then, hope you 578 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: guys have a great weekend yourself. We'll see it back 579 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: here on. Move the sticks