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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to our number two here it's time for

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Speaker 2: the Fantasy Football Focus. Matt, we had a good lineup

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Speaker 2: in our DFS lineup, this seems so long ago, but

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Speaker 2: we did not cash in unfortunately. We had C. J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud in the quarterback position. That was thirty three point

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Speaker 2: eight six points. That was solid and he was only

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Speaker 2: used nine point eight percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: That surprising. Yeah, that's a good matchup against.

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Speaker 2: And you know we got plenty of points at him.

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Speaker 2: That should have been one that was in our favor.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work out. I mean it worked out for us.

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Speaker 3: We got our money's worth out of them. Right.

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Speaker 2: We had Jayla Warren and Nausea Harris. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: an interesting is the running backs. We ended up with

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Speaker 2: eight point two points out of Jalen Warren who was

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Speaker 2: used in fifteen point five percent of lineups. Nause He

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Speaker 2: got us fifteen point nine points. He was only using

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Speaker 2: one point two percent of laps.

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Speaker 3: Again, he's a little bit an underrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not. We're not like getting chalky guys here

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Speaker 2: until we get a little lower here. So we should

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Speaker 2: have been okay. I mean, you get twenty three to

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Speaker 2: twenty four points out of the two running backs.

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Speaker 3: And we did spend a lot of those tis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and thirty almost thirty four points out of

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. We should have been in good shape. Mike

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Speaker 2: Evans again two touchdowns, he had twenty five points, only

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Speaker 2: used eight point five percent ownership, should have been golden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, we're good there, I say, what's wrong with

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Speaker 3: any of these?

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Speaker 2: Tank Dell was fifty eight point one percent ownership. Wow,

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Speaker 2: now he got us seventeen point two points.

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Speaker 3: He started on fire and then Nico was in the

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Speaker 3: second Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I don't think. I don't think Tank

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Speaker 2: Dell had a catch after halftime. He may, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: can tell you that he didn't because he's on my

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Speaker 2: fantasy team and he just sat there at the same point.

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Speaker 2: It's the entire time. Josh downs twenty nine point six

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Speaker 2: percent ownership, so that was a little higher as well.

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Speaker 2: He only got nine point three points. David and Joku

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Speaker 2: six for fifty nine. He had eleven point nine points

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Speaker 2: for a tight end is fine twelve point three percent ownership. No,

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Speaker 2: Jerome Ford had ten point four percent ownership. We only

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Speaker 2: got eleven point nine points out of him. He probably

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Speaker 2: should add more hit nine carries in that game. Coaching

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with the Cleveland coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, considering how you have to play who

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Speaker 3: your quarterback is, and you lost your quarterback in that game.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were down at the end.

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Speaker 2: He had nine carries for sixty five yards. It's not

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Speaker 2: like he wasn't being effective. He got one more carry

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Speaker 2: though he got one more carry than Joe Mixon did.

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixon had sixteen yards. And then the Chiefs defense

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Speaker 2: forty nine point two percent ownership. He got his two points,

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Speaker 2: So that shouldn't have hurt us after the league, after

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Speaker 2: people in the in the thing had the same. You know,

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Speaker 2: Tank Dell had an okay game and the Chiefs only

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Speaker 2: had two points. Those things should not have hurt us.

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Speaker 2: Because of some of the other guys that we had

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Speaker 2: in the lineup. We ended up with one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty five point twenty six points.

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Speaker 3: Not really, or is there some chalky guys that we

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Speaker 3: just didn't have that. Everybody else, well, well.

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Speaker 2: The team ms the team that finished at one forty

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Speaker 2: eight point three, that would that would have gotten us

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Speaker 2: into the money.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts okay, but he was expensive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jonathan Taylor good, he was fifty percent ownership. Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Rashad White forty two point five percent ownership. These were

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Speaker 2: such chalky Every guy on this list was chalk, chalk, chalk.

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Speaker 3: But they all hit. But they all hit, so that

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Speaker 3: all the chalky ones hit and we weren't chocky.

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Speaker 2: Justin Watson was used in forty one point six percent lineups.

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Speaker 2: Now he only got seven point three points, but one

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Speaker 2: of them was a touchdown that should have been in

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Speaker 2: our favorite. He had seven point three three points.

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Speaker 3: Why okay?

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Speaker 2: Uh Tank Dell was in that line up. Josh Downs

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Speaker 2: was in that line So we had two of the

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Speaker 2: same guys in the lineup. Trey McBride at tight end,

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Speaker 2: fifty eight point six percent ownership. He got thirteen points. Well,

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Speaker 2: that wasn't markedly better than what Joku got us.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 2: Uh Isaiah Pacheco was thirty nine point three percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: He was good.

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Speaker 2: He gets twenty five point nine points. And then they

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Speaker 2: had the Chiefs defense.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like anybody of the Cheeps.

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Speaker 2: Even so, really the difference for us was really Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts and Jonathan Like we lost it at the running

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Speaker 2: back better position with Taylor. He had Taylor and White.

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Speaker 2: He got thirty seven points out of those two guys.

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Speaker 2: They were more expensive but far off. But he paid

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Speaker 2: down for Justin Watson because we had Tank Dell and

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Speaker 2: we had Josh Downs in the lineup. But then again

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Speaker 2: we had Evans Evans in the lineup and he had

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Speaker 2: a good game twenty five points.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Watson was cheap and that there's a

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Speaker 3: nice pickup, yeah, but there was. It was just so

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Speaker 3: chalky that, Yeah, that's kind of a weird.

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Speaker 2: The team that won it had two hundred and two

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud at the quarterback, that's what we had. Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 2: at running back. Only point seven percent ownership for Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: that was really low, but he had but Checko Pa

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Speaker 2: Checko seems like it was a good asset. This week,

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Speaker 2: Forshi Rice two point three percent ownership. He had twenty

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Speaker 2: seven point seven points. He went heavy. Michael Pittman twenty

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Speaker 2: three points. Yeah, twenty three point seven points. Nico Collins

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Speaker 2: twenty six point four points. David and Joku another one

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Speaker 2: of our guys, eleven point nine points. My man Greg

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Speaker 2: Dortsch was his flex. He had three for twenty seven

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Speaker 2: and a touchdown, so he had eleven point seven points

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Speaker 2: there and then started the Broncos defense. They got sixteen points.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like our thought process was fine.

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Speaker 2: It was fine. We just needed one more guy to have.

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Speaker 3: The big game, yeah, or a stealer rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 2: A steeler rushing touch another to like more than having

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Speaker 2: a typical Warren day and catching another three passes would

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Speaker 2: have been big too.

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Speaker 3: They didn't.

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Speaker 2: They didn't throw to the backs a lot yesterday.

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Speaker 3: No, they didn't because they won the tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So if we just started Friarmouth, how many

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Speaker 2: we've started Friar Moth like three times this year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Next week.

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Speaker 2: Should have thought that he was cheap too.

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Speaker 3: Last week, Yeah, I think we even brought it up.

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Speaker 2: Brought it up, didn't didn't pull the trigger on it.

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Speaker 2: Knew he was going to have a good game, didn't

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Speaker 2: know he was going to have a career game.

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Speaker 3: No, right, so I don't know. I'm not mad at

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Speaker 3: us for that.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean the thought process was good, but we

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Speaker 2: just missed out on it. Uh. Looking at this week's

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Speaker 2: top performers, Trevor Lawrence three sixty four, just one touchdown though, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that game was interesting. He's been good for Fantasy this year,

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Speaker 2: but not great.

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Speaker 3: No, last couple of games have been better. I know

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Speaker 3: you were mad at Ridley. He did nothing.

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Speaker 2: Ridley had no catches in the target in the first half.

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Speaker 3: It's funny that that game, though, the first half was

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Speaker 3: all Tank, Dell and Kirk and then the second half

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Speaker 3: was all Ridley and Collins. You know, so strange.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Allen had three thirty nine and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I think he had like eighty rushing yards too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was a monster game this week, thirty seven thirty four.

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Speaker 2: That was a shootout that we didn't have anybody in

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Speaker 2: either one of those lineups that heard us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jared Goff had three thirty two and two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: all the way back in Thanksgiving, same thing with Dak

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Speaker 2: Press got three thirty one and four touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of becoming a regular thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Stroud had three oh four and two touchdowns. That was

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Speaker 2: a solid start. Derek Carr three to oh four, no

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Speaker 2: touchdowns in an interception, and.

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Speaker 3: They lost, and they lost. They don't have any of

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Speaker 3: their top three receivers. A Lave went out with a concussion,

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Speaker 3: Shahee got hurt, and Thomas was out.

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Speaker 2: Sam Howe three hundred yards, no touchdowns and an interception.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing when people talk about quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 2: guarantee you if we went back and looked at the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks who have three hundred yard passing games in the

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Speaker 2: NFL all season long, we can go through it week

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Speaker 2: after week after week. Most of the time the guys

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Speaker 2: that throw for three hundred plus yards lose the game.

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Speaker 3: Is a great example. Yeah right, No, fantasy quarterbacks are

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Speaker 3: not the same as real quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And yet I hear people constantly to well, Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: doesn't throw for three hundred yards. Yeah, because you're not

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Speaker 2: losing the game. Or it's not, it's not. They don't

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Speaker 2: get the Steelers don't get into shootouts. They don't design

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Speaker 2: you play a certain way. Your quarterback is not going

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Speaker 2: to have three hundred yards. He could have thrown for

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Speaker 2: three hundred yards yesterday. I mean, there's there's less big

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Speaker 2: plays being allowed, the way defenses are playing, you know

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Speaker 2: that running the balls is becoming more and more important. Absolutely, Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: anybody talking to Mahomes didn't throw for three hundred yards yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He threw for two ninety eight and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: And again Rice blew up and.

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Speaker 2: By the wayside, I saw this or heard this on

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Speaker 2: the on the drive out to Cincinnati. Mahomes against the

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Speaker 2: Raiders career, his career averages more than thirty points per game.

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Speaker 2: It's like thirty It's actually like thirty five points per

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Speaker 2: game against the Raiders. Just eats them alive.

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Speaker 3: And he kills a division. Yeah, the Raiders in particular. Wow.

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Speaker 2: The ninth best passing total in the NFL yesterday was

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickets two hundred and seventy eight yards.

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Speaker 3: I saw this today. He was seventh among all quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in EPA yesterday. Yeah, a really good game.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love was number ten at two sixty eight and

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns. Kyler Murray, so well.

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Speaker 3: Believe in Jordan Love a little bit. The last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks have been impressive.

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Speaker 2: Murray, who will see this week? Two fifty six in

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Speaker 2: a touchdown? I think he had a rushing touchdown too.

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Uh they lost thirty seven to fourteen. He also was

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Speaker 2: sacked four times.

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Speaker 3: No, they've got manhandled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Minshew had a Minshew type day twenty four forty one,

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Speaker 2: two point fifty one, no touchdowns, in an interception.

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Speaker 4: Short throws the downs and Pittman his his numbers aren't

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Speaker 4: all that different touchdown in terms of his eight touchdown

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Speaker 4: passes this season.

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Speaker 2: But I think he has like eight interceptions. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's Kenny Pickett, but he turns.

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Speaker 3: The ball over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, eight and O'Connell to forty eight in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He's played Okay, okay, yeah, I mean if.

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Speaker 2: You're in if you're in a two quarterback league, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you could do worse.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a chance he's their opening their starter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're not. They're not going to finish high

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Speaker 3: They're passing games coming back to earth. Yeah. Like people

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Speaker 3: think that Steels can never score with Miami. Miami's a

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Speaker 3: better offense, yes, but they're not putting sixty on people anymore.

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Speaker 2: And the Jets offered no offensive production whatsoever. Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: the bottom quarterbacks this week.

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Speaker 3: Boyle had to be one of them.

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones was twelve of twenty one for eighty nine

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Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson fourteen to twenty nine for one hundred

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Speaker 3: He got bent or he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson thirteen to twenty two, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: They're protecting him more than people think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's having a better year and he's he's not

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Speaker 3: No, no, I mean that's the same formula.

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Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter thirteen of twenty one for one sixty eight,

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Speaker 3: Much better in real life than fantasy, which has never

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Speaker 2: Bit, right, it's just weird. Did they don't put they're

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Speaker 2: not putting up massive passing numbers.

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Speaker 3: No, And he's not running for one hundred yards a

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Tim Boyle. Tim Oil was twenty seven of

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Speaker 2: thirty eight for one hundred and seventy nine yards, one touchdown,

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Speaker 2: two interceptions, seven sacks and just looked in that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith was sacked six times, Tommy DeVito sacks six times,

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield sack six times. Like there's some.

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Speaker 3: There's some bad stuff going on the.

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Speaker 2: League, right, Absolutely, the quarterback position is a again, if

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Speaker 2: Pikett just can continues to do what he's been doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's don't turn the ball over, don't take a bunch

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Speaker 3: And plays like you did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fine, You'll be okay, you're fine. Looking at

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Speaker 2: the one hundred yard rushers, there were only four, there

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Speaker 2: H Kyron Williams sixteen for one forty three against this

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Speaker 3: He looked great and ripped them apart. They're terrible awful. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: really really bad.

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Speaker 2: Scored to receiving touchdowns too.

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Speaker 3: I think mater about that.

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Speaker 2: You might be right, Christian McCaffrey, haven't. Yeah, nineteen for

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Speaker 2: one fourteen and two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs twenty for one

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Speaker 2: we picked today, right, Yeah, that Reek's good. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Rashad White fifteen for one hundred, how about that? Never

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Speaker 2: does that against Indianapolis, Like Tampa Bay can't run the football.

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Speaker 2: They haven't run the football all year long. They ran

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good to know for coming up here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nause he just missed it. Fifteen for ninety nine

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Speaker 2: in a touchdown. Ramondre Stevenson had twenty one for ninety

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Speaker 3: He wasn't bad. Yeah, their offense is horrendous though.

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Speaker 2: Mostard had twenty for ninety four and two touchdowns. No

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Speaker 2: a chan no, no a chance he got in. The

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Speaker 3: I think I think they were too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor had fifteen for ninety one and two touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: His usage was really encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Yeah, Josh Allen had to nine for eighty one

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Speaker 2: and two scores. DeAndre Swift had fourteen for eighty in

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Speaker 3: He never scores, but boy, he's pretty consistent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they ran the ball. Tony Pollard thirteen for seventy

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Speaker 2: nine and a touchdowns. He worked his way out of

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Speaker 2: the doghouse here.

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Speaker 3: Guess starting to score.

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Speaker 2: The volume still isn't there though. Yeah, Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 3: Dowdell gets a fair amount every week.

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry was eighteen for seventy six and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I thought they'd be even higher.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Montgomery fifteen for seventy one in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing here, if you start looking at it

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Speaker 2: by carries. The most carries any running back in the

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Speaker 3: Really, I hadn't studied it.

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Speaker 2: There were only four runners who got the ball twenty times.

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Speaker 3: Who were the top ones?

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Speaker 2: It was Ramandrie Stevenson with twenty one.

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Speaker 3: It was Stevens, I thought, because he's the only show

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Speaker 2: Jacobs had twenty, but he gets the volume. Mostard had

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Speaker 2: twenty and Travis Aten had twenty, but only for fifty

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Speaker 2: six years. Yeah, Matt McCaffrey just missed it at nineteen.

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Speaker 2: It's just every but he's using two backs now. When

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Speaker 2: you talk about the usage here, anything that's fifteen or

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Speaker 2: above yeah is good. I mean that's all you can

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Speaker 3: NFLA mix it because they aren't using two.

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Speaker 2: Backs at all, and they don't run anybody else not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think volumes what he has going for,

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Speaker 3: but not yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. It's it's just things have flipped so

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Speaker 3: Why mccaffreys so valuable. I mean, because he gets the

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Speaker 2: Leading receivers in the league, there were twelve guys over

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Speaker 2: one hundred receiving yards, led by Pat Fryer Moose was

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Speaker 2: he number one, one hundred and twenty yards nine for

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Pikett was seven in EPA, but quarterbacks friar

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Speaker 3: Mouth was one amongst pass catchers not just tight ends

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Speaker 3: everybody everybody, Tyree Gill, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jaylen Waddell at eight for one fourteen, Chris Alave

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Speaker 2: seven for one fourteen.

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Speaker 3: He was on fire and he missed the whole fourth

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt five for one oh nine. That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I mean, we'll talk about him on

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Speaker 3: the waiver wire obviously, but I mean I'm interested. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna play young guys.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman had ten for one oh seven. H Rashi

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Speaker 2: Rice eight for one oh seven in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: So obviously there's opportunity there. If you watch his routes,

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Speaker 3: they're very simplistic. There are a lot of crossers and things,

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Speaker 3: but who really cares.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if Kelsey's gonna be getting the kind

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Speaker 2: you've gotta have something that you can get somebody you

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Speaker 2: can get the ball to. If that's what it is,

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Speaker 2: so be it.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's I mean it's gonna be him, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if the receivers are most likely to step

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen had fourteen for one oh six.

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Speaker 3: Is he a top five fantasy receiver? I mean it's

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Speaker 3: consistent and he always opened.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be like thirty nine years old.

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Speaker 3: Next day. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith had seven for one oh six in a.

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Speaker 3: Score started a slow but a good game. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Gabe Davis six for one oh five and a score

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Speaker 2: of the key was having somebody in that shootout in

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia point Uh. Nico Collins finished with seven for one

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Speaker 2: oh four in a touchdown. Tyreek had nine for one

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Speaker 2: oh two in a touchdown. It's kind of a ho

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Speaker 2: hum day for him. And then Curtis Samuel nine for

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Speaker 2: one hundred for Washington.

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Speaker 3: He's been pretty decent when he's out there. He's missed

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Speaker 3: some time here and there. They throw the ball a time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, o'man ross Saint Brown just missing at nine for

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Speaker 3: That's a home day for him. Amazing.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Christian Watson five for ninety four in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I think he's coming around, by the way. Him and

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Speaker 2: Kelsey had six for ninety one. I'd like to see

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Speaker 2: that if you Drake London five for ninety one. Khalif

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Speaker 2: Raymond another guy you got to talk about. Five for

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Speaker 2: ninety in that game.

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Speaker 3: He's their slot, the slot in a good offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so keep an eye on that. Calvin Ridley five

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Speaker 2: in the first half. Christian Kirk four for eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Marquise Brown will see him this week six for eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: He's a number one receiver clearly. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they match up Porter on him this week.

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Speaker 3: I wonder. I mean, he's a just let him beat

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't let him get off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: They kind of have every week.

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Speaker 2: Chase four for eighty one.

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Speaker 3: Thirty one of them are off tip ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more than that, because he had thirty one on

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Speaker 2: forty three of his more than half. You had Deebo

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Speaker 2: Samuel seven for seventy nine. I texted you during that game,

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Speaker 2: so we played the wrong forty nine ers wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: although I could score out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jacobi Meyers six for seventy nine in a touchdown. He's

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Speaker 2: been solid, shit real solid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh two two out well, we talked about two two out. Well,

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Speaker 2: he ended up with three for seventy six, so.

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Speaker 3: He's very hit or missed and it was a boom.

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Speaker 2: Diggs had six for seventy four in a score, Devonte

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Speaker 2: Adams five for seventy three, Brandon Cooks four for seventy

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Speaker 2: two in a touchdown. Yeah, that was nice noice quality.

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Speaker 2: Evans had six for seventy and two scores. Karen Williams.

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Speaker 3: Evans is like Allen. It doesn't matter his age.

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Speaker 2: If there were a redraft rate, now, would Karen Williams

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Speaker 3: No? He had sit a round two guys.

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Speaker 2: Six for sixty one and two scores in addition to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yard game.

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Speaker 3: Like the volumes always there with.

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Speaker 2: Him as long as he stays healthy.

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Speaker 3: I mean McVeigh backs produce, Yeah, especially if you get

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Speaker 3: the workload.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a matter of whether they can hold

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Speaker 2: an issue, it is. But yeah, some some interesting stuff there,

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Speaker 2: some different guys getting over one hundred yards led by

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Speaker 2: Pat farm with how many leagues Pat Fararmouth was probably dropped.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it last week. On waiver day, he

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Speaker 2: was available in like fifty percent of leagues because he'd

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Speaker 3: I think that most people dropped him. Getting of the

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Speaker 3: production going on to dir I'm not gonna wait, I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna hold him for four.

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Speaker 2: So he was probably in like two percent of fantasy lineups,

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Speaker 3: Top of all the waiver wire charts. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 3: should be in every league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nine for one, and he had targets. The targets were,

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Speaker 2: you know, double digit targets in that game.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't. I mean, that's probably gonna be his

447
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 3: best fantasy game of the year.

448
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, he might score a couple of touchdowns

449
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: and yeah, that could still happen too, but yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 3: You throw in your starting lineup next week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve given, Yeah, give him what's out there, who's

452
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Speaker 2: hurt and and all the team's on by I mean

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Speaker 2: I had to start Dalton Schultz this week. He had

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Speaker 2: one catch for two yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been good this year too.

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00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 2: And then one in that in that game, put balls

457
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Speaker 2: flying all over the place. The quarterback throws for three

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Speaker 2: hundred yards and he has one catch for two yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: one catch. That's a game war.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: That's brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal. And of course I had

462
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: Andrews and that's that's done. Anyways, that's gonna do. Yeah,

463
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: he's not super exciting.

464
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's like McBride level or or one

465
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Speaker 3: of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Now, Uh, that's gonna do it. For the fantasy Football focus,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to another break. We'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more on the Drive right after this. A lot of Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt we went

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Speaker 2: over that playoff odds and everything, well, the playoff picture

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Speaker 2: as things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah what's ahead of them, and yeah games they have

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Speaker 3: and current seatings and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: So if you look at it now in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: this according to FTN Fantasy's Dvoa rankings. I know people

484
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Speaker 2: put out the what ESPN ESPN predictions have the Steelers

485
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Speaker 2: just seventy three percent chance to make the playoffs. Now

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Speaker 2: DVOA has it at eighty four percent.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I think, well, they're definitely one of the teams

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Speaker 3: that benefited most from a win this week in terms

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Speaker 3: of odds.

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Speaker 2: Going well, not only not only with their win, but

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Speaker 2: who also likes at the Browns Los Houston lost. The

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Speaker 2: Browns lost, Both teams that were just ahead of them

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Speaker 2: in the wild card standings both lost.

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Speaker 3: Then again Bengals kind of got out of the equation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then you had the Bills lose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's huge.

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Speaker 2: So eighty four percent their mean wins is now ten

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Speaker 2: point eight Yeah, ten point eight, so they're seeing eleven

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Speaker 2: wins even Yeah, a two point two percent chance just

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Speaker 2: to be the number one seed in the AFCO. Okay,

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Speaker 2: four point seven percent chance to be the two, six

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Speaker 2: point two percent chance to be the three, four point

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Speaker 2: seven percent chance to be the four. So there's still

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Speaker 2: an opportunity there to win the division, is.

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Speaker 3: What they're saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be the five is twenty five point six

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Speaker 2: percent there.

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Speaker 3: I think they're that seems like they're probably most likely

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Speaker 3: to be that right now.

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Speaker 2: Right to be the six, Yeah, to be the six

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Speaker 2: is twenty four point eight percent. To be the seven

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Speaker 2: is now just fifteen point eight percent. There's a there's

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Speaker 2: a better chance, better chance that they'll be five or

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Speaker 2: six than seven.

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Speaker 3: That's you're saying there's well over fifty percent chance they'll

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Speaker 3: be the first or second wild.

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Speaker 2: Card to win the division. What would you say their

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Speaker 2: chances say, nineteen seventeen point nine percent.

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Speaker 3: Are they older than the Browns?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, the Browns are at nine point four percent.

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Speaker 2: That adds up that leaves in Cincinnati has no chance.

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Speaker 2: They don't have a win in the division this year.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy at the Cincinnati Bengals do not have a

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Speaker 2: win in the eighth like when we started the season.

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Speaker 2: I can remember we were talking about because at that

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Speaker 2: point before the season started, if you remember, well, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers have picked the finish last in the division this year,

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Speaker 2: and we said, okay, what's their division record going to be?

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Speaker 2: They're not going to go winless in the division.

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Speaker 3: No, of course it.

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Speaker 2: Worse somebody like nobody else winss. I can remember we

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Speaker 2: said it were somebody's going to go to and four

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Speaker 2: division up team probably finishes last.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, every team was three and three. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know how the Bengals ge to

536
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Speaker 2: win now in the division unless they beat Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Still, I don't know how. I mean, I think Cleveland

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Speaker 3: could play without a quarterback much better than Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Can.

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Speaker 2: I think so too, Yeah, especially if Cincinnati's going to

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Speaker 2: play like, oh, let's just let's just run our offense,

542
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Speaker 2: like like it's the same quarter but like it's Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to run the ball. Yeah, come on, man.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, seventeen point nine percent chance to win the

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Speaker 2: division for the Steelers. The Ravens are at seventy two

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Speaker 2: point eight percent.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense. Yeah, sixty go ahead's not easy.

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Speaker 2: But sixty six point two percent chance for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: to get a wild.

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Speaker 3: Card, Yeah, that makes sense. I mean you said sixty

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Speaker 3: two percent, sixty six point two sixty six, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's considering the teams ahead of them and where

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Speaker 3: they sit now. It would be an upset if they didn't.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the rest of the AFC, Baltimore

555
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Speaker 2: has the lowest odds to actually win the win this division.

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Speaker 3: I guess Jacksonville's win goes long because.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are right on their yeah, right on their table,

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Speaker 2: and the city has to be at ninety eight point three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like room temperature or human temperature.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami's still pretty strong.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Miami's at ninety three percent chance to win

563
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Speaker 2: the division seems rich, but their lead is they got

564
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Speaker 2: a three game lead in the lost column with six.

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Speaker 3: Games left, like, it's almost impossible.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's chances now theirs across the board. Their mean wins

567
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Speaker 2: right now is eight point six the Bengals and Bills.

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Speaker 2: So many of us picked them to at least win

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Speaker 2: their divisions. So Buffalo's odds to make the playoffs is

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Speaker 2: fourteen percent.

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Speaker 3: Jesus fourteen, they bascously. I think they could have one

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Speaker 3: more loss.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they could still have a one point one percent

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Speaker 2: chance to get the three seed. They have a five

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Speaker 2: point seven percent chance to get one seed or I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: the four seed, a five points point three percent chance

577
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Speaker 2: to be the five seed because all the losses, a

578
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Speaker 2: one point five percent chance to be the sixth seed,

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Speaker 2: and a five point three percent chance to be the

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Speaker 2: seventh seed. They might be higher six point nine percent

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Speaker 2: chance to win the division.

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Speaker 3: The tie breakers are awful.

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Speaker 2: They're just awful. They're not going a seven point one

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Speaker 2: percent chance to be a wild card team.

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought so they're not? I mean, like

586
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Speaker 3: since these is more explainable, understandable, Yeah, you know, less ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You know, right now, if you looks, there's a better

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Speaker 2: chance now that there's three teams out of the AFC

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Speaker 2: South really than the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: How about out of the FC North, there's.

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Speaker 2: Still a better chance that those So now you've got.

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Speaker 3: I mean three from the West isn't happening?

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Speaker 2: No, Well you've got you've got the Baltimore ninety nine

594
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Speaker 2: point two percent. They're going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going.

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Speaker 2: Steelers are at eighty four percent. They're going to make

597
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Wrap your head around that now, folks. Yeah,

598
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Speaker 2: the Steelers are going to make the playoffs. It's just

599
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: going to be a matter of where they're going to

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Speaker 2: be seated at. Things would have to really fall apart

601
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Speaker 2: at this.

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Speaker 3: It would have to be a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Browns are still at seventy four point six percent.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: All right, I mean that implies Browns are going to

606
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Speaker 3: make the playoffs. Wrap your head around it. But it

607
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: doesn't pass the snout.

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Speaker 2: I mean they have to. I think they they would

609
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Speaker 2: limp in as the seven seed at best.

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Speaker 3: In the end, beating the Steelers really helped them.

611
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Speaker 2: It helped them, but now they just gave it back

612
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Speaker 2: by losing to Denver.

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Speaker 3: So, by the way I heard, Garrett is day to day,

614
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: not catastrophic. That's something chefter put out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you look at the AFC South right now,

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville ninety eight point one percent chance to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: they're going to be. Yeah, Houston is now forty nine

618
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Speaker 2: point one percent.

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Speaker 3: I guess that adds up there a coin flip to

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Speaker 3: get in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their mean wins right now is nine point four. Okay, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis's mean wins is nine point two. They have a

623
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Speaker 2: forty five point four percent chance to get in.

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Speaker 3: Pretty close. Yeah, and they're about the same.

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Speaker 2: And remember Houston, Well, Indianapolis also has to win in

626
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Speaker 2: hand against Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yains Houston. Yeah they play again now right, Yeah.

628
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Speaker 2: Looking at the AFC West, you've got Kansas City's mean

629
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Speaker 2: wins of twelve point four. They get a ninety nine

630
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Speaker 2: point five percent chance to make the playoffs. They get

631
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Speaker 2: the best chance of anybody in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Because the division. Yeah, I mean they almost have to

633
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: lose out not to win.

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00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Denver's now twenty five point nine percent. Their type, their

635
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: tie breakers don't look a lot of a lot of

636
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Speaker 2: those early losses were all conference losses.

637
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Speaker 3: They were I didn't know what they did in conference.

638
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: The Chargers are now at seven percent and Vegas is

639
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: at one point five percent.

640
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Speaker 3: Yeah, those two are down.

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00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: So the Browns are still alive, very much alive.

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Speaker 3: In fact, their loss didn't hurt them that bad because

643
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: so many other teams.

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00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: No, it hurt them in terms of what they need

645
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: to do the rest of the way because it's another conference.

646
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: Loss, right, But they were fortunate or Steelers aside Buffalo Houston, Yeah,

647
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: they couldn't. Competitors also lost.

648
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: They couldn't. If one of those teams would have won,

649
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: they'd have been probably differently.

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00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: So right now, looking at the conference records, you get

652
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens at six and three, Kansas City six and one.

653
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: That's over.

654
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacksonville six and two. Miami is six and two,

655
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: but with a three three eleven strength of victory.

656
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Crazy.

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: You got then the Steelers at five and three, Cleveland's

658
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: at five and three, Indianapolis is at five and three,

659
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: Houston's at five and three, Denver is three and four.

660
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: That's where they're.

661
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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

662
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: And then you've got Buffalo at three and five.

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Speaker 3: Five division conference losses. Yeah, and what cinc I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Curious, one and six, one and six.

665
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Speaker 3: And zero and three in the division or own four

666
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: in the division.

667
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: And four in the Division? One and six, No, off.

668
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: Ef they went out. They're not going no. I mean

669
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: they're basically, he can't win.

670
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: He can't win a single tiebreaker against anybody, against anybody

671
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: unless you beat him head the head. And they didn't

672
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: do any of that either.

673
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: What a miserable year for them, just the last year.

674
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: So we were talking about this a little off the air.

675
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Bengals are toast as an organization.

676
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: They got Joe Burrow, they got Jamar Chase. They're gonna

677
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: be good, and they'll have a better pick than they

678
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: have this upcoming year because they're not going to play out.

679
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: They'll pick twelve or thirteen or fourteen or whatever. But

680
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: they're gonna need at least a tackle on the O line.

681
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: At least their tight ends aren't good. Mixing has to

682
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: be replaced. There needs to be something coming up.

683
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: Even if he's not replaced, there has to be something

684
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: there to supplement.

685
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: Him, at least a contingency plan or you know, somebody

686
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: who's somebody.

687
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: Else, somebody who's the guy in waiting that when Mixing

688
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: is done after next year, they can just move him

689
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup.

690
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: So they're playing these other receivers while Higgins is out.

691
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: Maybe one of them can be the three, none of

692
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: them can be the two. No, I don't know. The

693
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: Boyd's back for financial reasons, and I don't think Higgins

694
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: is back.

695
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: And they're gonna take defense defensive tackle, Yes, offense.

696
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: They could.

697
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: They could certainly use an upgraded safety.

698
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: They happy with their safeties probably not? Probably other than

699
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: Dax Hill, are they Probably not. I mean like they're

700
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: in a predicament. They're gonna need some pieces Like the Browns.

701
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: This was their year. Yeah, they push your pushing your

702
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: chips in.

703
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: Because next year they're gonna have to pay Chase.

704
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're good.

705
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Huh, well yeah, you have to, but you have that's

706
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna mean that you're gonna watch the watch some guys

707
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: walk out the door to do that. I don't think

708
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: Higgins is back, No, there's no way.

709
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: I don't think they can franchise them. I don't think

710
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 3: they'll extend them. I don't think he plays the rest

711
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: of the year.

712
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would at this point want

713
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: to Probably not, Yeah, I mean I blame him, pick

714
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: for him, but I wouldn't. Maybe if they don't sign anybody, Yeah,

715
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, but that's still two drafts from now. Yeah, yeah,

716
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: so it's it's you know, they're gonna take a step backwards.

717
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: I would think I would think the Browns will I

718
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: mean just they're fine.

719
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: The Browns are going to take a step back. Yeah,

720
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: because of those find the financials. I mean, Jack Conklin

721
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: is never gonna play for them again.

722
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: No, no, absolutely not. And they're done by Willis.

723
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: Willis isn't gonna They're gonna need a tackle.

724
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: They'll need a leasa tackle. I mean, Jones will probably

725
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: be the starting right.

726
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Tackle they move into the left side.

727
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Who knows. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else

728
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: they have financially. I just know they're up against it.

729
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: They're paying a lot of dudes, and Watson's guaranteed big

730
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: money and they might need a quarterback.

731
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, between Watson, Garrett and Cooper, I want to say,

732
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: I looked this up last huge portion of their cap

733
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: it's more than half. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, more

734
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: than half.

735
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: And they're still paying the guards are expensive.

736
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: And so twenty twenty four, here's here's what expensive, Here's what.

737
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Here's what Houston's or Cleveland's looking at Deshaun Watson with

738
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: a cap hit of sixty.

739
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: Four million and the same as next year for them,

740
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: a year after that for.

741
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: Them A MARII Cooper twenty three point seven to seven million.

742
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's even a cap hit, then what

743
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: they got? I say, then you got nothing?

744
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Right, Denzel ward is twenty three point six million about him?

745
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: Think of their guards are expensive?

746
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: To Garrett is twenty point one million, Chubb is fifteen

747
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: point eight million.

748
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: Poor guy, But I mean you might have to, I mean,

749
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: can't sit around holding his contract.

750
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: Well, did they pick up an option on Jedrick Willis.

751
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: Fifty year option? They did?

752
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, because so he's fourteen point six million, He's not.

753
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: Worthing fourteen percent? Right? That was a real debatable.

754
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: But Tonio's twelve point one. Conklin is twelve twelve.

755
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: Million, he'll be gone.

756
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wyatt Teller is eleven point six. They're paying their

757
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: whole offensive line.

758
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: Is like I bet that Alvin Thomlinson's expensive.

759
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Tomlinson is six point five million.

760
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

761
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: The guys who name I can't pronounce Oker wonk will

762
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: is four point one, so it drops off considerably.

763
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of big dogs.

764
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of big dogs.

765
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: I know that they're not direct.

766
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: They're over the cap, projected over the projected cap for

767
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: next year. Before that, before they do anything, they gotta

768
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: cut guys just to get have enough money to sign

769
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: their draft picks.

770
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: Just for fun. Pull up the Chargers.

771
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: Oh, the Chargers.

772
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: We talk about insane contracts and it's not even necessarily Herbert.

773
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: I mean, Herbert's big and he's getting paid huge, but

774
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: it's like Khalil Mack and Bosa and Allen and Williams.

775
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: At least they're getting production out Khalil Mack, he's been phenomenal.

776
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's been one of the best stories

777
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: of the year. That people aren't talking about them.

778
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean they get they're they're paying Bosa boatload of

779
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: money for nothing, never out there, nothing but like Therwin,

780
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: and I mean James is overrated, overrated. Yes, he doesn't

781
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: do anything. Again, I didn't watch it. I didn't watch

782
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: the game last night and listened to most of it

783
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: on the drive across Ohio. Yeah, he's name mentioned once. Yeah,

784
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: he said he's kind of become a ghost. Khalil Mack

785
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: is thirty eight point five million, so it's grazy. He

786
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: is thirty eight million dollar. Joey Bosa is thirty six

787
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: point six million.

788
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a disaster.

789
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen is thirty four point seven million. Yeah, Mike

790
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Williams is thirty two point four million.

791
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: Why they drag they draft Quinton Johnson, Derwin.

792
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: James nineteen point eight five million.

793
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: You're the worst defense in the league.

794
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's nineteen point three million. Those guys, Corey Linsley's

795
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: fourteen point one. At least he's good.

796
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: They at least dump J. C. Jackson to the Patriots. Yeah,

797
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: don't even play them.

798
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: They are minus. They are forty five million dollars over

799
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: the salary.

800
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: I think their last I mean, I think their worst

801
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: cap space in the league.

802
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can expect that either they're gonna have

803
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: to completely rework some of those contracts or they just

804
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: gonna have to start cutting guys.

805
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: So Bosas of the world. I mean, how do you

806
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: bring back Mac at his age? I mean he's really good. Yeah,

807
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: it's nightmare. Yeah, So Steelers are good.

808
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: That's what you don't want your team to do for us.

809
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: You don't want that to Well, we're going for it

810
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: this year. We're gonna go. They're they're all in this year.

811
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 3: Well, you better hit I mean rams of dat, the

812
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: bucks to dat and they hit, you know, but if

813
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: you don't, you're paying.

814
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: The same time. So, like the Saints were all in,

815
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: they didn't win.

816
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and they're like negative.

817
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: The Browns have been quote unquote all in the last

818
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: three or four years since the Watson trade Yeah and

819
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: haven't done Yeah.

820
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: And they're not close. They're not going to be in

821
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: it this year.

822
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: No, So slow and Steady wins the race.

823
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if we were, if we will do it in

824
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: the off season, if we were to do this with

825
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: the Steelers cap, it's pretty favorable. Yeah, there's okay, it's

826
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: like up that they have to say, you know, I

827
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: mean there's no no one that's huge is on a

828
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: Higgins hit in the market.

829
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Or anything like that, and you just get to continue

830
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: to slowly add pieces to the pie.

831
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: If you had a draft class like this one, Yeah.

832
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, absolutely, we're gonna get to another break. He

833
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

834
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Speaker 2: to the Drive. You're on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

835
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Speaker 2: back to finish up the show right after this this.

836
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

837
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

838
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

839
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson

840
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Speaker 2: and Matt I wanted to ask you here before we

841
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: close out the show, what to you constitutes a good defense?

842
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: Wow?

843
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: Is it?

844
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: Is it?

845
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: Because you'll hear a lot of different things to the

846
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: other number one defense, that's the number one defense. Is

847
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: it yards? Is it points? Is it turnovers?

848
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: Yards? I mean, like so much of Belichick's stint in

849
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: New England was allow a lot of yards, practice like

850
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: crazy for red zone, d tough enough, make big plays,

851
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: and they were really good defenses. Yeah, I don't care

852
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: about yards at all. I think you have to have

853
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: a pass rush without question, which then leads to explosions,

854
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: and it leads to hitting quarterbacks which they don't like,

855
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: and bad things. Yeah, I don't have that answer. I mean,

856
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: I do think yards per play or something like that.

857
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: It's a nice jumping off point. That are the course

858
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: of the year tells you quite a bit. I mean,

859
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: the teams that are high or the bad defenses, the

860
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: teams that are lower the best. But that doesn't mean

861
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: number one is number one. Yeah, Like, I think the

862
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: three best defenses in the league right now are San

863
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: fran Cleveland, and Baltimore. But Cleveland, their home road splits

864
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: are a little concerning. They have some not great games,

865
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: they have some really good games. Baltimore seems pretty consistent.

866
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: There was about a month there where the Niners were

867
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: a bit right before their their.

868
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: By, but which coincided with their offense not producing right.

869
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: They had a down month, and then they trade for

870
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: Chase Young, go to the by, and now they look great.

871
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean they can't fall again. I don't know.

872
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: I'd have to think about that.

873
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: So here are the top five defense or the top

874
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 2: defenses in the league. In terms of scoring. Okay, you

875
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: got San Francisco's now allowing fifteen point five points per game.

876
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: That's number one.

877
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: And remember, if you rewind an hour over the last

878
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: seven games, the Steelers are allowing fifteen.

879
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: Baltimore is at fifteen point six.

880
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: Okay, rush back and neck.

881
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas City is at sixteen point.

882
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Well, I'll probably put them in the top five too,

883
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: Okay about it.

884
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you got Dallas at sixteen point eight.

885
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: I would probably be the other one in the top five.

886
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Number five is the Steelers at eighteen point six.

887
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: Adds up six is Buffalo at eighteen point nine.

888
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: I think that's the worst defense you mentioned.

889
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: Yet Cleveland comes in at nineteen points per game.

890
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: Do they have one or two big ones? I mean,

891
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: this past week wasn't great.

892
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: They've given it. They've had some games. They had the

893
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: game against the Colts where the Colts ran all over them.

894
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: But Denver put thirty up on ur Yeah this week.

895
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: Right, then you have the Saints at twenty point two.

896
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: So there's only what I say, seven defenses allowing less

897
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: than twenty points per game this year, and the Steelers

898
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: are now one of them and have been this is

899
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: this has been ongoing here?

900
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: M hm.

901
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like early in the year, I thought, boy,

902
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: they're down to down consistency against the run isn't great.

903
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: Well that's changed. I mean, like they're hard to run on.

904
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: Pass rush has never really waned. Do I think that

905
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: there's some dudes that can kind of be had in coverage?

906
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta have the time to get the

907
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: ball there.

908
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they haven't played a Murder's row quarterbacks lately.

909
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: But then mink it comes back and all of a sudden,

910
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: it looks like Porter is a star, you know. So

911
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: I think they're definitely a top ten defense. Yeah. I'd

912
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: have them over the Bills. I wouldn't have him over

913
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: most of those names you mentioned, but those are the

914
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: best of the best.

915
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I just think when you when you

916
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: look at I think people get wrapped up in the

917
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: yards too much.

918
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's nuts. I mean allowing yard because

919
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 3: the Steelers aren't great in yardage right there.

920
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're moving up, but they're they're giving up three

921
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four point four yards per game. And

922
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: even like in the end of the staff package that

923
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: the NFL sends out, well, you'll be able to run,

924
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: you know, such and such should have you know, be

925
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: able to run against the Steelers defense. Well not in

926
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: the last month and a half. Nobody's run against them.

927
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: That was all early in this season when they were

928
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: giving up some explosives and you know that kind of stuff.

929
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: They've cut that out and down in and down out.

930
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: They've been a very difficult team to run the ball against.

931
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: They have, So I have one question for you. I

932
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 3: know we only have like two minutes or whatever. Trenton Thompson.

933
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: Is he a keeper? Yes, I think he's the third

934
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: safety maybe for the next couple years.

935
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Older than you think though, Yeah, he's twenty seven years old.

936
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: This is the first time he's gotten a chance to

937
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: really play.

938
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: Though he basically had every snap yesterday.

939
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

940
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying he's the next Jalen Warren

941
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: diamond in the rough star that they paid nothing.

942
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: But he's a diamond on the cheap.

943
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I bet he's a Steeler next year. Oh yeah,

944
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: I mean on the big roster. I think he's a

945
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: varsity player.

946
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's shown it. Yeah, he gets his hands on

947
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: the football, he makes plays.

948
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: I mean that we mentioned him in Latrobe a lot.

949
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: That's maybe that's a draft pick that you don't need

950
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: to use. Now you don't need to. I mean I

951
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: still think you get a draft one. I don't know

952
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: early right right, you know, if you had to line

953
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: up with Minka and Trenton Thompson, okay, and a third

954
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: round pick or a second round back now now we're talking.

955
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: We're talking. Yeah, I think he's that guy too, if

956
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: you are with me or not.

957
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he I think he can play either side too.

958
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 3: I would love to see opening day he's your third

959
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: safety next yeah, you know, I think he can handle that.

960
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think they found something there for sure,

961
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: and the defense is getting better and better and better,

962
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: and you need some of those cheap oh yeah, you know,

963
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: you know guys who are young guys that come in,

964
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: you know, guys like her big yeah, players like that.

965
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: But I exactly so. No, I think Thompson's really interesting

966
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 3: in terms of he's gonna be in the active rosser.

967
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think really, you know, since Benton has

968
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: become a regular and nose tackle, you can't run against him.

969
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: I kind of feel bad for Adams, like, I'm sure.

970
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's not playing He's not played poorly, but

971
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: you got a star there that's gonna do it for

972
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Speaker 2: our show today. So I for my partner Matt Williamson,

973
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Speaker 2: for Brian Lamartine here on site keeping us on the air,

974
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lelly. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio