1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: What did you just spare in your face James Trump 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: supporter Mario Vanesca. Oh yeah, oh yeah, baby, Oh I 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: feel refreshed. I didn't know Mario Vadesca was a Trump supporter. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean anybody with a name like that. Mommy, 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm from a Long Island. How come we don't have 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: a segregation anymore? Wow? Girl? The kind of the entire 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: year has been leading up to this. Ever since we 8 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: first got those set photos of Lady Gaga and Adam 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: Driver in the snow. In the snow, we have been 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: waiting to talk about father son House of Gucci, and 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: today we are doing that with the perfect person to 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: talk about, truly perfect a a a Gaga scholar, a 13 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: movie critic, if you will, of which we are not. Yes, 14 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: Hunter Harris is here to talk about House of Gucci 15 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: with us. Also, I will say that, yes, I know, 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: this podcast is about us looking at yesterday's pop culture 17 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and giving it today's takes. But this podcast is also 18 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: about popping your cherry about parts of pop culture that 19 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: you have an experience yet, and none of the three 20 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: of us, Fran Hunter I have seen House of Gucci, 21 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: so we are experiencing it for the first time along 22 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: with all of you. So today we are losing our 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: virginity with Lady Gaga in her sex scene with Adam Driver. Yeah, 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: just about the sex scene just forty five minutes. We're 25 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: going to talk about that sex scene. Rose, But before 26 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: we get to that, we're going to you know, do 27 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: some for play with the news of the week to 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on in pop culture. So, as 29 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: I said, this is like a virgin I'm Rose, damn you, 30 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: and I'm fran Toronto. Let's get into it. The big 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: thing that I've been dealing with for for the past 32 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: week is just a lot of online shopping. It's like 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: become very toxic at this point. I honestly, I I 34 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: thought I was so alone in what is a morbid, 35 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: if not disgusting addiction to shopping. Um from myself. We 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: are together, well, when we started to become friends years ago, 37 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: it really it became quite clear very quickly that you 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: are just as sick in the head as I am. Well, 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a tourist rising and I do like 40 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: to fill like the black pit of emptiness inside me 41 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: with things. I will also say, I mean not to 42 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: blow up our spot, but like, we worked in queer 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: media for a very long time, which is to say, 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: we were extremely underpaid for our jobs for an extremely 45 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: long time and have only ever operated under scarcity mentality. 46 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: So when you and I, for the first time in 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: our lives, have just a little bit of expendable income, 48 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, any Instagram, I become the target 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: demographic for literally any product. Oh my god, I'm so 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: susceptible and like and like sometimes when I like send 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: people things that I want to buy, what I want 52 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: is for them to talk me out of it. Yeah, 53 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: you can't get wrong the wrong girl, because all you're 54 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: gonna do is say, oh, yeah, that's cute, Like why 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: don't you get this too? Why didn't you get this 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: more expensive version of I do? I do sometimes say like, no, 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: that's ugly. No, it's the wrong color, the wrong patterns 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: something I am ethical but fair. Um, But I do 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: feel for the most part, if you text me some 60 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: shopping link, I'm going to tell you to buy it. Yeah, 61 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean. And Black Friday was like very dark this 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: year because Black Friday was the day that Stephen Sondheim 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: died and I was actually at the Mall in in 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Florida when I found out, like walking through Nordstrom looked 65 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: down and gasped when I saw that Stephen Sondheim had 66 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: passed away. I think it's important text for the virgins 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: as well, that like, obviously we're always sad when like 68 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: cultural beham moths like pass away. But Sondheim is specifically 69 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: so one of your people. Oh, like so important to 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: me as a like theater kid who grew up loving 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: musical theater. Um, you know some of my favorite musicals 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: are Stephen Sondheim musicals. Um, I guess, like as sad 73 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: as I've been, it also has been very comforting just 74 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: to see someone pass away, but to know like that 75 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: they lived such a full life at the way that 76 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Stephen Sonheim did, in the way that he contributed to culture. 77 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he is, I do think, without hyperbole, the greatest, 78 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: most prolific queer artist of our lifetime, like we we don't. 79 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: The other thing is like his style of like how 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: he created his own work has influenced like an entire 81 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: genre of musical theater, like an entire yeah, and an 82 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: entire general like multiple generations of creators. He fundamentally changed 83 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the landscape of American musical theater. And you know, when 84 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: we had the hot topic conversation and I couldn't think 85 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: of my favorite Tim Burton movie, it actually really was 86 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd and that was obviously in no small part too, 87 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: like how gorgeous the music is. Yeah, I mean, honestly, 88 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd is. I don't think it's a great movie, 89 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: but I haven't rewatched so, but it's an incredible musical, 90 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: incredible musical. I think I snuck actually took a bunch 91 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: of my cousins and we snuck into the theater to 92 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: go see that. And I think I told my parents 93 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: we were seeing like National Treasure too or something like that. Um, 94 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I love Stephen Sondheim and I am sad that now. 95 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: My my friend Ryan said like that he was sad 96 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: that we'll never get to go to Steven Sonheim's Sex Dungeon, 97 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: which was like rumored to be a thing. Really. Yeah, 98 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: there's been so much TV coming out recently, and I 99 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: was very excited that Gossip Girl came out. It is 100 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: tis the damn season for gossip Girl. Like it was 101 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: just Thanksgiving and one of the only things that I 102 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: have to watch every year on Thanksgiving is the gossip 103 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Girl Thanksgiving episode Blair Waldorf must Pie and I have 104 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: never actually seen the o G Gossip Girl. I think 105 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: I watched the first episode. Um, we obviously will be 106 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: doing an episode of the podcast on the o G 107 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Gossip Girl. Well, my former roommate was in this batch 108 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 1: of episodes. Yeah, my my old roommate and friend, Cole 109 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: doman Um was in the third of the recent drop 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: of episodes. He plays the like demon twink that um 111 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: Aki goes on a date with my God, and he 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: was perfect. This reboot specifically really does champion, if not 113 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: encourage demon twink behavior, and that I think is maybe 114 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: one of like the things that is like most disturbing 115 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: to me about this rebote, even though I can't take 116 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: my eyes off of it. What do you love about 117 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: you know? It's it's gossip Girl, it's the drama, it's 118 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: new the new Oh, the soundtrack and this this current 119 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: crop of episodes definitely have some good needle drops. There 120 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: was a tailor song writer, Bunny as a writer. There's 121 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: an Olivia Roderick. You're your favorite Trader love Trader Um. 122 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I do kind of need at some point for the 123 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: minion of Julian of the Zion and Zion I need 124 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: her to have like her own identity and storyline. These 125 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: characters need once and needs, they need desire. They they 126 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: only exist in proximity to the other characters, and like 127 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: when one of them is a black girl and the 128 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: other is trand and like to have them have like 129 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: no identity, like we don't nothing about them. I totally agree. 130 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: It's very like Flatsam and Jetsam, pain and panic in hercules, 131 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: like the two Crowns, just like the Lackeys, which is 132 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: like which is part of the Gossip Girl legacy. Like 133 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, Blair in the original had minions who I 134 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: think she literally called minions, and they did not really 135 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: have identities and like only existed to serve her. But 136 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: I would hope that in Gossip Girl two point oh, 137 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: like flash off those characters a little. I want to 138 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: know more about their interior lives. I will say that 139 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: in the trailer for the next batch of episodes, Zion 140 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: like was kissing someone, so maybe we'll see character okay. Um. 141 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: I also have to say something that I very much 142 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: so appreciated about this latest drop of episodes was a 143 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: very necessary um cultural critique on uh Santa Con, which 144 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: is the worst thing that New York City does in 145 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: like the history of New York. It is a stain 146 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: on the legacy of New York. I did appreciate that 147 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: because I don't think there's another like TV show that 148 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: has has dealt with Santa Con like that, and how 149 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: horrible it is. Should we describe for people that don't 150 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: know what Santa Con is, like what, like what is it? 151 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: Santa don't we can actually know what it is. Santa 152 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Con is when the inhabitants of murray Hill and Williamsburg 153 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: dress up in Santa Yeah, dress up in Santa alfits 154 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: and do a bar crawl around New York City. If 155 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: they're not in murray Hill, they're fight eye guys. It's 156 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: like very fight eye BROWI It's like cis culture, It's 157 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: heterosexual culture. It's an excuse today drink outside wearing Santa costumes. 158 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: And I have seen with my own eyes Santa's stripping 159 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: on the streets. I've seen many Santa I've seen at 160 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: least to Santa's bar like on the street in like 161 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Lower Manhattan. I have seen some Santa's do disgusting things, 162 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: and I cannot believe that it still exists as a 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: cultural object. I definitely have before, like been on grinder 164 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: ring Santa Con and had someone hit me up and 165 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: it's like, say they were at Santa Con, And I've 166 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: had to have that moment of checking in with myself saying, 167 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: am I about to invite someone in a Santa costume 168 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: over to my apartment and possibly engage in some kind 169 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: of Santa role play? And I never have, And honestly, 170 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of sad that that's an experience I've missed. 171 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: I absolutely would have. I absolutely would have, but I 172 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: would have been it. Maybe one day I will. Yeah, 173 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: who who you know? One day? Who knows? What else 174 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: have you been watching? Recently? I watched UM the Janet doc. 175 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: The so the New York Times did the Brittany doc 176 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: that everyone was talking about this year that you know whatever. 177 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Very I thought it was like an okay documentary, but 178 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: maybe they were like the first to really consolidate all 179 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: of these things that had happened to Brittany and in 180 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: a place where everyone was going to watch it. Um, 181 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: but they did a new one with basically the same 182 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: conceit for Janet Jackson and what happened to her at 183 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: the a Bowl and when Justine Chamberlake exposed her sexually 184 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: assaulted her on stage basically, and then she was like 185 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: beyond the height of her career, a legend, a like 186 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: completely a complete mononym as a pop star, and then 187 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden her career came to a screeching 188 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: halt because of that moment. And you know, I thought 189 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: I was going to go into it being like, oh, 190 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: this is just gonna make me mad all over again, 191 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: but I actually felt it was pretty well reported and 192 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And Jenna Weretham, who does still processing. 193 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: It's like a friend of mine and she was in 194 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: the documentary and she everything she said was so amazing. Um. 195 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: And I also loved that they included women and their 196 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: opinions in this documentary because the Brittany Dock like all 197 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: they had was that evil lawyer and then those like 198 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: two bloggers that were kind of like, I guess, the 199 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: comedic relief of the documentary, and so with this one, 200 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: I felt like they may be honestly solved for that, 201 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: and like the sources were overwhelmingly women, which I appreciated. However, 202 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I really wish that they had angled the story a 203 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: little more on Janet, Like the way that the sources 204 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: were arct was really more about the build up leading 205 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: up to the Super Bowl and how it was already 206 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: an extremely high stakes environment involving the culture wars of 207 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: that era and like religious fanatics basically really really trying 208 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: to crack down on what is on broadcast television. And 209 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: and then you have Janet who is a woman who 210 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: is sexually liberated, and like society doesn't know what to 211 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: do with that, and so obviously there was it was 212 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: an explosive moment, but all in all, I felt like 213 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: satiated that it is a conversation we should continue to 214 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: have about Janet and who she was and like what 215 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: she still can contribute to what we're doing culturally. And 216 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: I really hope that the gays listening to this are 217 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: going to rally around Janet the way we're raillying around Brittany. 218 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Obviously not to conflate the two obviously completely different situations, 219 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: but I would just hope that culturally we understand like 220 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: what Janet has done and continues to do. UM, were 221 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: you a virgin? A Janet stand? I I do like Janet. 222 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: I really like UM. When I was in college, was 223 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: right when Discipline came out that which has feedback on 224 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: it amazing song. Um, did you see that Grimes has 225 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: made her return to social media. Yeah, it's it's it's 226 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, on on the day that we're recording this 227 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: podcast really only in its seminole uh kind of phase, 228 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: but I feel like this is going to be a beat. 229 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: We will continue to reports watch. Yeah, So what did 230 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: she say? Actually didn't Actually she came she came back 231 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: to TikTok and was like talking about how she's traumatized 232 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: from being so in the public spotlight and how she 233 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: now wants to start using her platform to have like 234 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: radically transparent conversations about like wealth distribution. Um, it's such 235 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: a hard and fast turn. Yeah, you know she used 236 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: the word traumatized. Yeah, she did. That sucks and like 237 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure it was traumatizing. Yeah. Yeah, you know, 238 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: like we will truly never understand what it's like to 239 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: be famous on that scale of Um. At the same time, 240 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, as like many people in the comments were saying, 241 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: it's just very hard to have sympathy for her. So 242 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, like we'll see if if she does anything 243 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: more than like stage photos of her reading the Communist Manifesto. 244 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: But I I you know, I remain a Grimes fan. 245 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: I do love her music, and I mean ultimately, like 246 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: this is all promo because she did announce that she 247 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: has a new song coming out. You are kidding, No, 248 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: you're kidding me. Fuck, that's so hard. Well, I think 249 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: now the biggest thing on my mind is now that 250 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: we're past Thanksgiving, it is Christmas. I mean well, I 251 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: mean technically we're in the middle of Hanagah right now. 252 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Hogsa maya to all my my Jewish girls out there. 253 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: But we are fully in Christmas mode. I told you 254 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: about this. Yesterday. I was listening to a Christmas pop 255 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: playlist and the most curse Christmas song I've ever heard 256 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: came on. It's called Stretchy Pants by Carrie Underwood, and 257 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: it's about wanting to wear your stretchy pants during the 258 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: holidays so that you can eat as much as possible. 259 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: And she does say in the song that she doesn't 260 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: want to wear those other bridges a queen of rhymes, 261 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: What does she rhyme bridges with? I don't remember. I 262 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: hope it's bitches or witches. It's not bitches. It's like 263 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: you like expect the word to be bitches. And she says, Bridges, 264 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: you sent me this song, and I think that Megan 265 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: Trainer should send a cease and desist because it is 266 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: a Megan Trainer or you a trainer. They're not called 267 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: according to me, they aren't. So it was just Thanksgiving. 268 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving famously all about family, and I spent my Thanksgiving 269 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: with my family, by which I mean with Lady Gaga, 270 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: because Lady Gaga is my mother, sister, grandmother, wife, daughter, father, father, son. 271 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: House of Gucci. Um. That is the voice of Hunter Harris, 272 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: who we have in the studio today. Writer Um, creator 273 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: of amazing newsletter Hung Up that I read obsessively, honestly 274 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: several times. Letter that's like worth the subscription, honestly, Like 275 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: newsletters are like hard to you know, everyone has a newsletter. 276 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: Newly minted writer on Gossip Girl, Yes, and her historian 277 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: of Gaga's acting career. I mean, you've been on it 278 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: on the beach. I'm happy to have gotten on the 279 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: ground level with the star was born and now listen, 280 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: I can watch a budding actor really take her thrown. 281 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Have you seen the film like multiple times at this 282 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: point or have you only seen it once. I've only 283 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: seen how a Gucci once and that is because it's 284 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: very long and it just came out like four days ago. 285 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: Did you see it in theaters or did you get 286 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: a screener? What was the situation? No, no no, no, I 287 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: saw it in theaters. I saw it like I escaped 288 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: my family on Thanksgiving Day and said, I am leaving 289 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: for an appointment, and I just went to see it 290 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: by myself. I had an appointment with the Lord, and 291 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: so it was me by myself at the Cinemark Tulsa. 292 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: And I, okay, I'm actually so glad you asked, because 293 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: it was pretty incredible. Um so, Like I was the 294 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: first one in the theater, but just embarrassing, sitting in 295 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: the very back row on like the far right corner. 296 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: And um, I like saw people like filing in. It 297 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: was like a bunch of like like couples, like adults, um, 298 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: and every husband was like talking to each other about 299 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: like the football game that was I guess on at 300 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: the same time, and well, listen, they have their religion 301 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: and I have mine. Um, And like these two husbands 302 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: were like, man, I wish I was watching the game 303 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: as their guys, Like yeah, me too. And their wines 304 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: are like like shushing them. Um and it's it's actually 305 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: a cinema theater, not like like not an AMC. So 306 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: I did not get to see the Nicole Kidman like 307 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: heartbreak feels good in a place like this? Is that 308 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: what it is? Some of her best work? I listen. 309 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe she. I think that Nicole Kidman wrote, directed, 310 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: um Ran produced that entire like Cinna Mark or AMC 311 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: doesn't know that that exists. What's your jet? It's her 312 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: like ideal setup. Do you like have snacks? Do you 313 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: like have a do you need to have something that 314 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: you need when you go to the like to see 315 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: a movie? Um, it depends. My favorite movie theater in 316 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: New York is the Battery Park Regal because it's in 317 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: between listen, it's in between a shake shack and a 318 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: bagel place, and I would love to take my little 319 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: snacks and they wouldn't ever care if I smuggle at 320 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: something in I loved the Battery Park Theater that was 321 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: like I mean, it was always empty. There was kind 322 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: of a Whole Foods nearby, so I could grab a 323 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: sandwich and like walking and they never cared and never 324 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: cared r I P because I guess it's doesn't exist anymore. 325 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: Question mark. I'll say Father's Son House of Gucci to 326 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: our fallen soldier. So is that our new punctuation for everything? 327 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: Father's Son has a Gucci? Like? Does it apply to 328 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: every situation? I say it out of context all the time, 329 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: all the time. I went to Catholic school. It just 330 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: like rolls off the tongue. O. Really, So were you 331 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: having some throwbacks from There's not really a ton of Catholicism, 332 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: I guess in the movie, but there's like a it's implied, 333 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: it's I mined because it's Italian Italian and they are 334 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: you are in a church at some point? Yeah, oh yeah, 335 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: for the wedding scene, yes, yes, And it doesn't that 336 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: fight outside of the church, Yes, it doesn't. Doesn't Mauricio 337 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: say that he wants Gucci to be like a church 338 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: of fashion. Oh yes, the Vatican of fashion. Right, that's 339 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: the moment, which, honestly I loved that line. That was 340 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: on my favorite lines in the movie especially. I think 341 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: it contectualises really well, like how Gucci had entered her 342 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: flop era, Like generally, Yeah, it was like an interesting 343 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: point for like the film in general to come in 344 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: and like I'd be curious to know just like on 345 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: a first impression or even we can start from the 346 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: beginning of the movie, because I feel like I thoroughly 347 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed the first thirty minutes of the movie and like 348 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: them falling in love and like all that stuff, and 349 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: then felt a different way. But like, what were you 350 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: feeling about it? It was just like there's so much 351 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: happening in Like Lady Gaga is so perfect at like 352 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: being this like flour being like in love. That's iff 353 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: I thought I found very compelling and it's like so funny. 354 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: Like to contrast her against Adam Driver, who as an 355 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: actor bass was a character. It was like so much 356 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: more straight lay, so much more serious, and he did 357 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: not seem as playful even their meat cute at that party, 358 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: She's like at home like this disco scene, and he's 359 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: like behind the bar for no reason, question mark. I mean, 360 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he was wearing that bad wig badly. 361 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 1: Um your thoughts on the wig, Okay, I think that 362 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the wig budget on House of Gucci was lower than 363 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: the last tool because the last tool had better whigs. 364 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: I guess probably fewer of them too, but like Adam 365 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: Driver's wigs were not very good in House with Gucci, 366 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: and I was kind of disappointed Gaga's wigs. I mean, 367 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: they were gotgags. You know, whoever is doing the film 368 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: is not doing Gogga's wigs. House of Gaga is doing makeup, wigs, everything, 369 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: which I think really speaks to Patriots yet in this 370 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: world right that she's like sort of um an interloper, 371 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: a new person, like fish out of water, like she 372 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: should feel sort of out of top. And it was 373 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: funny to like kepting like a visual gag for the 374 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: whole movie, that she's just more more dressed than everyone, 375 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Like other people like just wearing clothes, but Gaga is 376 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: like wearing fashion and every single scene, and I that 377 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: was like sort of one of my favorite parts about 378 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: her performance in this What did you think, I mean, 379 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: what were you prepared for it? Going into House of Gucci? 380 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I heard, I was okay. I don't think I heard 381 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: anything like super Pro or super Con. I honestly I 382 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: would like it more, but I did feel like it, 383 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: like the plotting of the movie, like the script itself, 384 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: felt kind of bloated in a way that I thought 385 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: really like undercut its momentum, so a lot of times 386 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, here I go, like sitting through 387 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: like ten boardroom scenes like I really don't care about, 388 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: like I just want to see I just want to 389 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: see more of like Gaga and Salamahai talking about like 390 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: no more spells like we need like Mamahias showed up. 391 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I cackled very it was amazing. I agree, Like I 392 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: think the first like weirdly very much like A Star 393 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: is Born, which I think is a great movie up 394 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: through shallow and then kind of falls apart. Um. I 395 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: think House of Gucci is really great up until kind 396 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: of like the sex scene, the wedding to exqueeze me. Oh, 397 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: the sex scene incredible. That was the moment where I 398 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: was like, this is going to be the best movie ever. 399 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: And then it But but it had been talked up 400 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: so much, like what was it? Um, they were on 401 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: some talk show and someone was saying, this is the 402 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: best sex scene that's been in a film in years, 403 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: and it was that. It was really just like like 404 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that much about the sex scene. I 405 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: just like saw people talking about it, and I was like, 406 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be like wild and not that's gonna 407 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: be good, It's gonna be crazy. And I could not, 408 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: in my wildest dreams have imagined that it was going 409 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: to be just like this, like so much grunting. I 410 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: was like, gotta what with very girls. I will say 411 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: it was the most sex scene that I've ever witnessed, 412 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: and well yeah, well everyone, it was the most of 413 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: many things. It was the most sex scene. It was 414 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: the most looks, it was the most acting. There was 415 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: so much acting happened to varying degrees of success. Yes, 416 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: My like, my biggest takeaway from the entire movie, which 417 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: I think you can see very clearly in that sex 418 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: scene too, is that it's like Adam Driver's in one 419 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: movie and Gaga was like just simply in three other 420 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: different movies and different. Jared Leto isn't Jared Letto is 421 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: on in a movie. He's like in a sketch room. 422 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I think you should leave. That was like I was 423 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: actually surprised that I didn't really mind like the prosthetics 424 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: so much with him, but he just was so like 425 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: cartoonish and I was like, wait, nothing, this person is 426 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: saying can I take seriously or even feels like important 427 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: to any other story and all of his punch lines 428 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: were like it was like, it was very like it 429 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: was very totally off from what everything else that was happening. 430 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: I honestly felt like they could have fully cut Jared 431 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: leto and it would have been a tighter, better movie, 432 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: right because nothing, nothing like regarding him actually held any weight. 433 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: Like all of the al Pacino stuff could have existed 434 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: without that character intact, and it would have been just 435 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: like as compelling of a of an arc there and 436 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: al Pacino was great, incredible listen father's son al Pacino, Um, 437 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: I will always read for my man. To me, like 438 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: there was this very fast transition between what was demure, 439 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm just an accountant, Gaga, I'm just like an innocent 440 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: girl who's kind of weirdly obsessed with this guy, maybe 441 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: for a money reason, to like, I have a mullet 442 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: now and I'm worrying, I have added shoulders and I 443 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: have a bullet, and I care a lot about these 444 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: counterfeit bags. And to me, it was like, I mean, 445 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't say this as a critic, I say this 446 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: as as a faggot. This movie would have done really 447 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: well with a makeover montage. You know what I mean, 448 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: or something that like showed Gaga's kind of like come 449 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: up in or her just like her moral center kind 450 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: of shifting. I think she could have used orange hair. 451 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: She has to be a brunette when she has the accent. 452 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean she said that herself in the contract. It did. 453 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: It did make me think of how there was like 454 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: a story circulating after a Star is Born where she 455 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: was talking about how when the movie ended she had 456 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: to shake off Ali and so then the night that 457 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: she wrapped, she bleached her hair blond again. And I 458 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: was a girl, it's going to fall out to chill, 459 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is, like a Gaga, It's 460 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: in her contract. She has to be Burnett. She has 461 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: to have a gay best friend in every movie. She 462 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: had a gay best friend in this movie for half 463 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: a scene. Did you notice that, Oh, the guy that 464 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: she went to the park just go with ye yeah 465 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: yeah like um. And she also has to, I would 466 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: wager always have a scene with a bathtub, and she 467 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: had to in this movie. Her bathtubs three she had three, right, 468 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: We're right, the one at the very end, yes, resonant 469 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: bathtub scene. I will say this. I was so like, 470 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't ever going to catch on fire, 471 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: Like there were so many candles around. I was like, 472 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: this is like maybe too many, and then I was 473 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: like no that definitely they were added in posts like 474 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: no candles like choked that well on camera. Um, it 475 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: does seem like the kind of movie though, where if 476 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: he had accidentally caught on fire, they would have kept it. Oh, 477 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: for sure there was something. Yeah, you feel like there 478 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: were some moments where that they kept, like when Gaga's 479 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: hat fell off, for like, there were other little moment 480 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: there were a lot of improvisation. Father son House of 481 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: Gucci famously improvised. I guess you know she did go 482 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: to the Bradley Cooper school of acting, where things aren't written, 483 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: they are felt in the moment. I will say, speaking 484 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: of m Bradley Cooper, I kept imagining him watching this 485 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: movie a little makeup wipe in his pocket, just like 486 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: just just go to the screen and just like wipe 487 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: off the makeup. It sounds like like the lipstick. I 488 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: was like, he's having a fit right now watching he was. 489 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: He was watching it thinking, you're so fucking also improvised 490 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: that famously. Yeah, that movie A Star was Born had 491 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: no script. It had it had like vibes and grunts 492 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: and like tequila. Didn't they do that for Yes? Yes? 493 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: And Bronzer. Wasn't that what they did for um Blue 494 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: Valentine sorry to invoke her name. Remember that Ryan Gossling 495 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: Michelle Williams movie. Remember that was almost rated NC seventeen 496 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: because of the sex scene. Yes, I remember it. I 497 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: almost get kicked out of that movie. That was like 498 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: the word because I was seeing it and I think 499 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: it was like umift and so I had like, you know, 500 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: it's like whatever, I take it fort her movie and 501 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: then like running that one, and I think that like 502 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: the theater had like known that, like teens were sneaking 503 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: in this is like you know, also peak rng Gossling. 504 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: That was like such a formative movie for me being 505 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: on Tumblr. Don't think method act in that that didn't 506 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: the director be like Okay, go into this room and 507 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: have a fight or something like that, or yeah, I 508 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: think so, But I don't know the thing about the 509 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: House of Gucci. It's like the improv in this movie 510 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: is just like at a different like vibration than because 511 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: it's just like Gaga as an actress, as Patrizia as 512 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: someone who like has his hair like it was just 513 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: because she is, she is the final word on who 514 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: this woman is, even though this woman is a real person. 515 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: When she said no one was going to tell me 516 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: who patreats Gucci is not even Gucci, I said amen, 517 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: and I said and I said, didn't thank you? And 518 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: I said, thank you. It's just like it's so it's 519 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: actually funny because before I came here, I was like, 520 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, prepping, and I was rereading, um all of 521 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: the stuff that actual Gucci family had said when they 522 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: were shooting it, and like you know, there was like 523 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: paparazzi photos of like how everyone looked and the fact 524 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: that the Guccies, who own none of the company, we're 525 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: going so hard, Like Alpaccino is ugly in this movie, 526 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: and my great great uncle was not ugly. He wasn't 527 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: a handsome Italian man. I was like, first of all, 528 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: how dare you? And second of all, what bullying? Cyber 529 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: bullying Alpacrino. It's like, oh my gosh. And there's like 530 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: they're saying that like Jared Leto, I mean, I don't 531 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: like to acknowledge Jared Little's presence in this movie, but 532 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: that he looked so ugly and that it was like 533 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: an embarrassment to their family. I was like, okay, kind 534 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: of go in. Also, I'm sorry your family is embarrassing, 535 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: like objectively like girl, like this is all embarrassing. That's 536 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: they made a movie about it. Someone who works with 537 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Gucci told me that Patricia actually never wore Gucci. She 538 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: was always in St. Laurent. So the Gucci family I'm 539 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: sure took a fue with that too. There were a 540 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: lot of choices they had made in this film, but 541 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: I wish that they had made more choices about focusing 542 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: on what Gaga was doing, because she was the best part. 543 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: She was like the shining star of the movie. I 544 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: know she should have been lit actually in every shot, 545 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: and like my favorite part of it were her reactions. 546 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: There's one scene that's really stuck with me, and it's 547 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: when she's leaving their ski chalet and he's looking at 548 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the window and she's getting in the car and I'm 549 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: going to turn. She looks back up in the window 550 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: and it's just the camera on her face looking at 551 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: him for like too long. Mascara stayed in her ches truly, 552 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: like does like Gaga's faces and this are so funny 553 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: because she she had like the big expressive eyes and 554 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: there was like looking at you the eyes truly It's 555 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: like if looks could kill, I remember would have been 556 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: dead at like truly twenty minutes and like that was, um, 557 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, she is like very she does have a 558 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 1: very expressive face. Like I think the movie made good 559 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: use of that. In terms of like Gaga performances and 560 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: scenes that stuck out to me. The first one that 561 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: I think of is, um, well, okay, important contexts actually 562 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: to talk about our movie viewing experiences. Um, I saw this. 563 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: There was like an early release on Tuesday before Thanksgiving 564 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: in West Hollywood, and so I went basically, what is 565 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: opening night in West Hollywood? And sigh, but I did, 566 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: And of course I go into this movie and it's 567 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: like just all like just it packed with like the 568 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: kind of whitest like gayest men you've ever seen in 569 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: your life. And so when Nicole Kidman like sat down 570 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: like to do like her thing in my AMC stuff 571 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: rewards like the theater whatever she goes in and one 572 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: of one of the girls is like yes, Nicole, like 573 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: like fully, heckly, what's happened? So this was like the 574 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: ambiance that I'm in, we were people wearing Gucci. That's 575 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: an important question. I didn't see any Gucci. The look 576 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: in Hollywood is like I just left the gym, like 577 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm in Lulu Lemon, Like I that disrespectful. It is disrespectful. 578 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: Are you wearing Gucci when Gucci? Girl? No, I was 579 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: wearing this vintage sweatshirt. I wore Gucci for this record. 580 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: But it's the but you know, it's just a little 581 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: not Anyways, there's a scene where Gaga and Adam Rever 582 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: and her kids are sharing like a Christmas together and 583 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: their mayor just kind of falling apart, and they're exchanging 584 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: gifts and the second Gaga opens the package and she 585 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: pulls out this thing and she says a Bloomingdale gift card. 586 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: The entire theater just like a chorus of like gay gas. 587 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: He might as well have slapped her in the face. 588 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: In the face, honestly, he should wake up and apologize. 589 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: It was one of the most emotionally devastating things I 590 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: had ever seen, And it's because of how God got 591 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: carried that moment, but also because I was in a 592 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: crowd of people that felt the exact same thing. I did. 593 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: I honestly would love a Bloomingdale's gift card as a gift. 594 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Is House of Gucci a Christmas movie? Now? Canonically? Absolutely? 595 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Are we like putting it in the same category as 596 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: the Holiday? And Dr seusays, how the Bridge still Christmas? 597 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: I will yeah, I'll call it a Christmas movie? Will 598 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: you be watching it again? Do you have a desire? Yes? 599 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: Because and this is how I feel about the movie. 600 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: It's like, for how much of it, I really just 601 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: kind of like sat through the parts that hit hit 602 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: so like precisely and pristinely, like the Bloomingdale scene, um, 603 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: other scenes like the scene um like I mean like 604 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: the sex scene, like the bathtub scene. I mean this 605 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: is like random, but I was obsessed with the Anna 606 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: Wintour Andre Leon Tally scene. It is it is like 607 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: actually pure comedy, like like all the tom Ford stuff too, 608 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: was just so like crazy. I was like, what am 609 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: I witnessing right now? Other than like actually like an 610 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: SNL sketch. Um, well that's what the trailer felt like. 611 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 1: I for like the whole lead up to this movie, 612 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: did not think it was a real movie. I thought 613 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: it was annel digital short based on the trailer. UM 614 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: and I can't believe it actually exists. No. Watching it, 615 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot believe it, Like this is 616 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: the accent that we're really getting for an entire movie, 617 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: every fire movie, and everyone talks about Gaga's accent, and 618 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: really it was Adam whose accent was bad, every every accent, everyone, 619 00:35:51,640 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: all of us in this room. Could anyone else have 620 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: played this role? I really don't think so. M M 621 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: a canonically Italian woman? What act what canonically Italian actress? Well, 622 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean this script had gone around for what like 623 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: ten years or something like a lot of a lot 624 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: of actress. Yes, a lot of actresses came in and 625 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: actually should I look it up? So Angelina Jolie and 626 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio were rumored to play Patricia and Maurizio. That's crazy. 627 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: It was going to be missed for and Mrs Smith 628 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: as a period in piece. What would that have been 629 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: a better movie? I think that movie would have been 630 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: so much more about like like the actual palace intrigue 631 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: of like Who's gonna take a ver Gucci? Like much more. 632 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: This is like not to make this comparison like a succession. 633 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: He kind of look at like a volley for Power, 634 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: And I actually liked that, Like the Gaga version of 635 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: this movie was not so much about the belt about 636 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: the volley for power that it was more about like, 637 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, this woman really coming in and shaking up 638 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: this family. Um, And I think that like that was 639 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: I think you kind of saw at least I felt 640 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: like I saw like like the remnants of like a 641 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: different kind of movie in this one where it's like, 642 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, here we go, like talking about business again, 643 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: math again. Although I will say that, um, oh my gosh, 644 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: who's um Jack Huston. I really liked him in this 645 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: as just um, like the advisor, like the second in 646 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: command to who eventually became the CEO. Yes, I mean Trader. 647 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: He related girl Boss his way. This this movie was 648 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 1: guy's like GATECPE girl Boss from different. I didn't think 649 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: like um for Treaty was like a girl boss ahead 650 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: of her time, like to as O N Like where 651 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: did you notice that? Like what what moments are you 652 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: clocking the girl bossiness? Well in the first scene when 653 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: she is like they shouldn't be like selling fakes and 654 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: then another scene when she s our name um, And 655 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: there's one other scene when she is like when she's 656 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: fussing with Adam Driver, like in the Um when he 657 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: when he tells her like I don't want you involved, 658 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: like I don't want you giving me advice anymore, Like 659 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: she is like mine, I'm running the company, You're not 660 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: like the CEO of this business. And she was like 661 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: kind of despondent. I mean that I did feel like 662 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: she actually want to just be a businesswoman and also 663 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: just like kick him out specifically because she was so upset. 664 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: It is like a very like weird cautionary tale about 665 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: how about like um inspiring a man too much, you know, 666 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: like me, she did, and she gave him a taste 667 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: of power and then he realized he he liked it 668 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: after refuting it for so long and like wrestling with 669 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: those car mechanics or whatever. Yeah, and I do see 670 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: what you mean. Like if the movie had been maybe 671 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: more focused on Adam on Adam Driver, um, like it 672 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: would have been maybe a little bit more about that, 673 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: because you see like the glimmerings of that about how 674 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, like around the Anna Wintour scene when he's 675 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: like buying all this ship and you know, really like 676 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: taking control of Gucci, Like there's kind of a different 677 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: movie than the one that Gaga's in. Um, And I 678 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: think like the disconnect is that those two are like 679 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: almost two at odds. Yeah, even like the tom Ford 680 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: stuff where you're seeing like this classic brand be revit 681 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: like you're seeing Adam Driver's plan for a couch like working. 682 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: That's it was interesting, but it kind of did feel 683 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: get detracted from, just like the drama of like this 684 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: crazy marriage in which like they are like trying to 685 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: fight over was ultimately his job, Like I didn't need 686 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: the stuff with the loafer, you know, the lower with 687 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: the gold leaf in the toe, and like as as 688 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: as as as emotional as al Pacino crying was, that 689 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: was really good. When he covered his face, I thought 690 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: immediately also also like trag, when is that going to 691 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: find its way onto your Twitter or into your news letter? 692 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean as soon as possible. Honestly, here we go. 693 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: I buy such a moment. Yeah, it really was. It's 694 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: very like and you're kind of a Pacino scholar. I listen, 695 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: he said, I pretend I do not see it, Like 696 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: whatever is happening in this room, I don't want to 697 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: be a part of it. Um, I would be pissed 698 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: if Adam Driver came in with that wig and was 699 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: like trying to get me out of my own that 700 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: we also, like I don't believe. I guess, I mean, 701 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: this is probably it probably really happened, but it seemed 702 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: weird to me that at that point when Adam Driver 703 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: was like buying you know, like Lamborghinis and stuff, why 704 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: was he riding a bike? Well, I said, because like 705 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: it wasn't that long of a journey. But I do Italian, 706 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: I do want to go back to the scene in 707 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: the boardroom because that was my favorite scenes. Crazily, even 708 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: though I did not like all the business stuff. Um, 709 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: when Adam Driver just like has been in the next 710 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: room the whole time, like his family is like being 711 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: ripped apart, like drag within an edge of their life, 712 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: and he just like pops his head in like Trio 713 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: the whole time. It was very hey, guys, it's very 714 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: um Alyssa Edwards behind the two way mirror and drag 715 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: right all stars to um. I feel like, yeah that 716 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: I like cowardice. Cowardice. Yeah, those were the moments where 717 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: I was like I was like, give me the give 718 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: me the like the mumble car, give me, like say, 719 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: give me something from your character as like kind of 720 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: a I guess a weasel like that was the thing 721 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: to me, is like from Adam Driver specifically. I didn't 722 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: really know how I was supposed to feel about his 723 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: character at at many different moments, And at the beginning 724 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is a like I thought 725 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: they were trying to do the Gaga is the smart 726 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: business one and she is an accountant at you know, 727 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: with her the movie company, and like that's why she's 728 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: so good at this and all the different stuff, and 729 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: he like is this privileged kid who has no idea 730 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: what he's doing. And then they kind of discarded that immediately. 731 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, there were a lot of the things 732 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: that I didn't like about the movie. I was like, 733 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: I wondered if it was because they were trying too 734 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: hard to stick to the true story, which wouldn't make 735 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: sense because they threw away so much of ther they 736 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: did not they could more artistically, and they like wedge 737 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: him in probably because of like his Gucci ambassadorship. I 738 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: feel like, right, yeah, and he was just in an 739 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: entirely different movie than the rest of them. He was 740 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: in that Marvel movie that he's going to be in 741 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: where he's the vampire superhero. I know you don't like 742 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: to technology as presence, but what were the things about 743 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: like his performance that you did not like? Um, I 744 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I thought it like just so cartoonish and 745 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: clownish when it's like Gaga and also Adam Driver and 746 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: also Alpaco and everyone else, like no one was like silly. 747 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: Like he was just so silly that I was like, 748 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: it's actually hard to like square, Like that was like 749 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: the most totally incoherent part of the movie, but like 750 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: he injected into his veins, like it was just so like, 751 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: oh now we have like forty five minutes of like 752 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: fucking comic relief that no one really needs. Sort of 753 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: like the actual material itself was like funny and strange 754 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: and odd enough. I don't need like these like kind 755 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: of silly punchlines every like to end every scene to 756 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: drive home that like this is ultimately all kind of 757 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: like fashion and silly and funny and all that. It 758 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: just felt like really like nailing, like banging me over 759 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: the head with like this intense sort of like not 760 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: symbolism but just like metaphor. I don't know, I just 761 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: was onto that that part of it for me was 762 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: like it when it became a movie that was trying 763 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: to be a film. And I do think those are 764 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: like two very different things. Um, when Jared Letts like 765 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: character has like basically no function other than comedic relief, 766 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like I love that you 767 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: said like no one was silly except for him, because 768 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: I totally agree because Gaga brought camp, sure, but like 769 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't make it silly. She's very intentional, she was 770 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: very grounded in her in her insanity, and he was 771 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: just like on a whole other like, I mean, okay, 772 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: the Anna Wintour was also very silly, yes, but that 773 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: was like a flash of just like you know, true comedy. Um, 774 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: but that's not goofy though, That's like not goofy in 775 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: the same way. And I found everything and it was 776 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: I think I'm not been thinking about it more. It's 777 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: like those that are just hit the same one note 778 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: of goofy nous in a way that I just was 779 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: like kind of off put by, if that makes any sense. 780 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: And it's like he was always like just cartoonishly pagerck 781 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: that I was like, you know, I've had enough of it. 782 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: I've had my fill of this actually, um, and would 783 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: love to just move on to I like the Ski 784 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: Shelley stuff. Oh excuse me, moment of silence for Gaga saying, oh, 785 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: you can escort her out. She kicked that woman, She 786 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: evicted her, her and her prosthetic nose. She said, cut 787 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: the camera's dead as was that a prosthetic? Yeah, because 788 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: that that that actress, that was not that's not what 789 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: she looks like. Okay, it was a bull choice, yeah, 790 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: giving giving her the hug and then get her out 791 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: of here. I will say like that was a moment 792 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: of betrayal that I haven't seen since like The Godfather. 793 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: It was like she kissed her and said get the 794 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: funk out, not even to her face, which is like, 795 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: somehow the worst rudest part of it, that you tell 796 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: someone else to make me leave. Just tell me yourself, 797 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: like I'm right here, and just say it to me. 798 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: And she did just kind of accept it. She knew 799 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: though she knew her time was up. Her entrance into 800 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 1: the film. I mean, I'm with a little jarring. Yeah, okay, 801 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: thank you. I thought maybe it was a me thing 802 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: because I'm really bad at retaining crucial information and films. Um, 803 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 1: but I when she like skied down and they started talking, 804 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: I was like, who is who is this supposed to be? 805 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: I was like, why is she important? Why? Why is 806 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: so much building up to like Adam Driver and her 807 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: cheating or what like. I just didn't see that coming, 808 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: I guess. And there were moments like that where I 809 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: was like, why are why is the screenwriter like really 810 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: just you know, betting that you're gonna know the original 811 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: story and moments like that, but then over explain like, 812 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, things like Gaga forging the signature or whatever, right, 813 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: because that's what I found out, like seeing this movie 814 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: with my mom and then talking about it at Thanksgiving's, Like, 815 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: people who were culturally aware during the time that this 816 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: happened don't really remember it. I was going to ask 817 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: both of you how much if you how much you 818 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: knew going into it and of the murder of the story, 819 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: like if you had, like I don't know redit primers 820 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: and you know nothing. The only thing I knew was 821 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: that Patricia now like walks the streets of Milan with 822 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: a parrot on her shoulder. That was literally, yeah that's 823 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: what she does. Yeah, she's she's been released from prison 824 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: and she lives in Italy and is like known for 825 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: walking around with a parrot on her shoulder. There are 826 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: many photos I'm not Angucci in same around probably that is. 827 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and she gets like a crazy amount of alimony. 828 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh I did read that just today. Yes, it's like 829 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: like almost two million dollars I think a year, and 830 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: also like back paid from whenever she was in prison, right, 831 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: and she didn't receive those payments. Um, that's a lot 832 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: of parents. And I will say, we love divorce. Thank 833 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: God for not airtight prenup um. I also went into 834 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: a cold did you watch stuff? Did you? Because also 835 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: like I really had no idea about this before this 836 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: movie was announced, and I kind of wanted to go 837 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: in that way just because you know, whatever Gaga says 838 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: happened is what I believe happened is rewriting history. She's 839 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: writing history for the first time. Is yeah. I thought 840 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: to me, like moments like the bathtube scene or actually, 841 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: honestly another reason why Jared Letto was never needed. It's 842 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: like the natural comedy of like their meat cutes and 843 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: like that them getting to know each other and like 844 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: the little I mean they loved like a sharp cut 845 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: after like a jokey moment, like a lot of that 846 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: happening in the first three minutes. That to me was 847 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: like I would have watched that. I would have watched 848 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: two hours and thirty eight minutes of that, you know 849 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: what I mean, maybe not as you know, profound, as 850 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: like a financial thriller or whatever. And that was the movie. 851 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: And I also wanted more towards the end of her, 852 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: like post murder, because it felt very weird that it 853 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: was like he gets killed, she's in the bath having 854 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: that like kind of like sorrowful yet almost like orgasmic moment, 855 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: and then it's like two years later and she's in court, 856 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: Like I want to see more of that, Like that 857 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: was the interesting part to me. Um, So it was 858 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: kind of like upsetting that we didn't get more of it. Yeah, 859 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: I in a similar vein. I think I wanted to 860 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: see more of her dealing with a fallout from him 861 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: not being married to her anymore. Like I think we 862 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: only got maybe a couple of beats of her just 863 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: like being enraged that they weren't longer together because she did. 864 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: I think Goda came to this conclusion, and I think 865 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: you kind of get it from the movie too, that 866 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: like she did actually love him, like she loved him, 867 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: but she's also jealous of him, but she also presented 868 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: him and she also you know, thought that he was 869 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: like an idiot and like mismanaged the business all these things. 870 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: But I would have really loved to see a couple 871 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: more scenes of her, like being a single mom, like 872 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: being just pissed about. It escalates so quickly, like all 873 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's leaving him these wild voicemails and 874 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: casting spells against him, and then the where the stakes, 875 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: where of those stakes come from? And then she's like 876 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: getting divorce papers. She's like getting divorce papers at a 877 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: soccer game, it looks like. And then it's like leaving 878 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: all these angry voicemails. And I was like, hmm, interesting 879 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: heightening there. But I did read just today that Um, 880 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: in real life, Rittie went off to a business like 881 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: at a business trip and then just like didn't ever 882 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: come back. I was like, now that is t actually 883 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: break up the marriage, but that is how I will 884 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: end one day, maybe my second marriage. Okay, wait, speaking 885 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: of divorce, though, what song off of thirty was she 886 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: listening to? Oh my god, what's her song? Um? If 887 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: it's not I drink wine, it could have been to 888 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: be loved. Maybe maybe it was one of the angrier 889 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: songs and what do what song do you think it is? 890 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: I would say, can I get it? Can I get it? 891 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: She said? Can I get it? A little bit of 892 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: murder and I get it? Maybe women like me she 893 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: wired those Oh okay, interesting bull She wired three euros 894 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: to that hit man and she put drop the needle on. 895 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: Can I get She brought it in double bag do. 896 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: That scene was one of the highlights of the movie 897 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: to me, And like, I think her face in that 898 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: scene is like so memorable of her sitting at the table. Yes, 899 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: that scene could have been its own movie. Actually, like 900 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: just like the little ways, like the little just like 901 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: um misunderstandings between these assassins and these two women who 902 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: were like I'm actually trying to pay you and you're 903 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: like not letting me and Sma hyak with the like 904 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: hot topic red hair, oh yes, and she's like, this 905 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: is not the number that we agreed upon. Actually, you 906 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: cannot up charge me right now. Selma was incredible, under 907 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: underutilized completely. That's why I was like, if we took 908 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: movies now Colonels and House of Gucci where I wanted 909 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: more Salma Hunter you disagree, Listen, you put some in 910 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: a mud bath and that is money well spent. That 911 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: was incredible. That was so luxurious. That was like finally 912 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of like actually true weirdo luxury in 913 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 1: this movie. And they're talking about spells and also like 914 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: this was like I wanted to see one of the 915 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 1: spells though I could have. I could on for a spell. 916 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that was one of the cut scenes. I could one. 917 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: But it's also funny that it's like the guc Is 918 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: are like very Catholic and like they're very Italian, and 919 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: yet she said, you know toiled toiled boiler. Yeah, I 920 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: feel like when I feel like, I mean, oh, I 921 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 1: forgot to I forgot to say um. After Angelina Jolie 922 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: didn't work out for Patrizia, they then reached out to 923 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: Penelope Cruz and then they talked to Margo Robbie. What 924 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: they are is a version of this movie where Margot 925 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: Robbie plays are you a Robbin Easta? I mmmm? Not 926 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: over Goda, No, no I am. But that would have 927 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: been such a different movie, Like I think it would 928 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: have been almost sadder in a way. I mean, at 929 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: the top of my mind right now is Margot Robbie 930 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: and Titania, which I find like a very tragic performance. 931 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: And and I don't know that I really want Patriotia 932 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: to be like sad in this, Like I kind of 933 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: like that Gaga leaned so much into the rage of 934 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: this woman who again grew up as too close to 935 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: the sun. Absolutely, because you have to understand why she 936 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,720 Speaker 1: is led to having him literally murdered, right she said, Actually, 937 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: it's not enough that you like if you are not 938 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: with me, you know, with an Nie one, and you 939 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: can tell that this is a bad romance. You can 940 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: know that, you know, Gaga did at least google Patrizia, 941 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: because if you google image searcher, every single photo is 942 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: like you which eyes filled with rage. She just looks 943 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: rageful in every single image. You know. It was another 944 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: scene that this was like a very jarring moment for me. 945 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: The scene where they go on the boat and she 946 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: folds her coat up to put it on the floor. 947 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: It was like two, I guess, like give him head. 948 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: It was so weird but beautiful, Okay, I was gonna 949 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: say it was giving me like so um Bridget Jones Diary. 950 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: You know the one scene when like, um, Hugh Grant 951 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: like tips over in the don't really mind me at that, 952 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: But then I also kind of feel like at least 953 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: got has like a stalking fetish, like a little bit 954 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: of a foot fetish. M vibe. Well, I think I 955 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: think it's like fun and funny. Um. There was this 956 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: one intervieweated with Kyle Buchanan for Vulture like four years ago, 957 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 1: I think about All the Money in the World where 958 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: he says like he instructed Michelle Williams in one scene 959 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: to like flirt with I guess it was what Mark 960 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: Wahlberg in that movie to like walk. The line is like, oh, 961 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: walk across the room and like stocking feet. I thought 962 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: that was so funny and like like goofy um. But 963 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: there's another scene in the Last Duel where like someone 964 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: like a characters like wearing like like a woman's wearing stockings, 965 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: and it's like is it flirtesias or is it like 966 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 1: kind of like you know whatever. Um, But that scene 967 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: was like reminding me of that. It's like such a 968 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: weird the emphasis like so on her legs, on her lap, 969 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: on her like pantyhose and I was like, I guess 970 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: really's got just like really thinks this is like I 971 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 1: don't know how women like flirt like with their little 972 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: bare feet, but like not really, I don't know. I 973 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: actually liked this scene. But the moment where she drops 974 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 1: the tickets to New York in the car gives him 975 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: road ahead, that was like so like that was that 976 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 1: was like I was like, oh my god, what is 977 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 1: going on. I had just watched that episode of Curb 978 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: like all about this, and I was like cracking up. Um. 979 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of like comparisons, we also know that you are 980 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: a moonstruck scholar, of which we are also or just 981 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: a moonstruck fisionado. Yes, I will accept that time. I 982 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,919 Speaker 1: did see quite a few moonstruck um parallels in this movie, 983 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 1: starting with both of them. I mean their first scenes 984 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: are them at a typewriter being a bookkeeper or whatever, 985 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: and then also being called by like a construction workers 986 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: like a very like that both happened. They both happened 987 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: in Moonstruck. But like in terms of like these movies 988 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: as a side by side, like I do feel like 989 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: Gaga is like in a lineage of people like Share 990 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: that are doing the pop star to like prestige actress Pipeline. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, 991 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: I would agree. And I also think that like you know, 992 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: the thing, I think the thing that's in common between them, 993 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 1: like not only that the transition from like like singing 994 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: to acting, but it is that like Gaga's taste for 995 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: an actor like pretty eccentric, I feel like like she's 996 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: not doing the Well's an example of this, Like it's 997 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: not like she's not playing a version of herself really 998 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: Like I think the allied character in The Star Is 999 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: Born is like pretty unlike got Gone a lot of ways, 1000 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: like as a pop star. I mean, I'm not a 1001 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: little monster, so correct me if I'm wrong, But they 1002 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: don't make the same type of music. Um, And I 1003 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: think in this it is like a role that doesn't 1004 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: like doesn't rest in her like actual like singing, Like 1005 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: she doesn't sing in this movie. It's not like it's 1006 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: something she's like not resting in her Laurels is what 1007 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And shares like the exact same way as 1008 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: an actress who like really um, who wants to act 1009 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: like doesn't want to just play a version of share 1010 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: in a movie. How do you think this stacks up 1011 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: to Camilla, Cabo and Cinderella do not do not invoke. 1012 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos got what he paid for and that's all 1013 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: that means. Crazy. I didn't I didn't watch how how 1014 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: far did you make it through? Oh? I watched the 1015 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: whole thing. You watched the I watched the whole thing. Yes, me, 1016 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: and like four moms in Florida, yes, Florida and Sean 1017 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: Mendez not even Actually do you think Sean Mendez saw 1018 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: House of Gucci? I can't say. Has he listened to 1019 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: thirty like post first breakup? For sure? It came justin, 1020 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,439 Speaker 1: wasn't it. I feel like I read on or something 1021 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: like he initiated the breakup. I think if you initiated 1022 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: the breakup, you don't need to listen to thirty. Sometimes 1023 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: Camilla listened to thirty? Or does Camilla only listened to 1024 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: her own music? I think music sometimes when you were 1025 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: the breaker up or it can be really hard. But 1026 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it was hard for Yeah, I don't 1027 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: think that was. Like they're still friends unlike Marizo and Patrizia. 1028 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: But maybe oh my god, well one of them is dead. 1029 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: Maybe Camilla will have Sean killed no stop it? Who 1030 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: like selmahiak in this, In this like maybe who's the 1031 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: magical Grifter in Billy Parter, I will say, okay, one 1032 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: to speak one good thing about Jeff Bezos Cinderella. Billy 1033 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: Porter's line reading of you want to go to that 1034 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: ball one of my favorite things this year, I'll say 1035 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: it he was I would have I'm sure I would 1036 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,919 Speaker 1: enjoy his parts of the movie. I feel that one scene. 1037 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,439 Speaker 1: Oh and um, Mini Driver was in that movie, MANI Driver. 1038 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: Mini Driver always comes to serve. She in Phantom of 1039 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: the Opera, which is, I mean, my favorite musical and 1040 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: a terrible movie that I love watching. She is the 1041 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: only person who understands what movies she's in, much like 1042 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga in House of Gucci. Oh that is like evolved. 1043 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: I love what you said about how Share in habits 1044 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: a character because something that between watching Gaga and Gucci 1045 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: and Sharon Moonstruck is like it you can never not 1046 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: see Share, you can never not see Gaga, like your 1047 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 1: brain is like that's gott like you know, but it 1048 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: still is a fully realized character that is distinctly not 1049 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Gaga and distinctly not Share. And sometimes a star power 1050 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: is what makes some of the movie that to me 1051 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: is the big difference between this and A Star is 1052 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Born because okay, yes, the Star is Born as a 1053 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: little monster. I can say like Ali is very different 1054 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 1: from Gaga because like Ali kind of in a way 1055 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: falls into this career where Gaga like the thing that 1056 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: has I mean the thing that has made her like 1057 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: she wants it so badly and she performs so much. 1058 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: And Ali was like not a performer in the same 1059 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: way in her personal life, whereas like Patricia like performed 1060 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: being a Gucci Yeah. But um, in A Star is Born, 1061 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: you never forget that it's Lady Gaga. Um. And she 1062 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: doesn't disappear into the role the way that I think 1063 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: she does to to like some effect in House of Gucci. 1064 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Like I do believe she's playing a fully realized character, 1065 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: maybe not a real person, um, but I don't. I 1066 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: don't feel like it's just Lady Gaga and awake. No, 1067 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: absolutely not. But I do think that like this meta 1068 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: text of like I'm watching Lady Gaga like run around 1069 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Italy and like tell all these men what they are 1070 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: doing wrong. It's like kind of incredible fun the movie 1071 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: really but fun that it's not like the goofys of 1072 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Ajar Letto stuff exactly exactly. I also have to say 1073 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: it feels like maybe missed opportunity for Gaga's dad to 1074 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: not have some like ad placements for Joanne's treacheria. I 1075 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: feel like that have eaten there. No, I wait, what 1076 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 1: was your experience? It's disgusting. It's some of the worst 1077 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Italian food I've ever The meatballs are definitely like rats. 1078 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Was it huge portions? It feels like a huge portions. No, 1079 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: not really and very overpriced. Um, where were there a 1080 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: bunch of like like faggots there? Yeah, my friend Ryan 1081 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: was there. Oh, I mean like other other patrons. I'm 1082 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: sure all the waiters was like, you know, all the 1083 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: waiters were coming off of their like fourth audition of 1084 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: the day. Did come out of the kitchen as Patrizio, 1085 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Mommy have a meatball for you? Wait this rose? Did 1086 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: you really go to Allive Garden after you saw I did? 1087 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I went direct? Oh yeah I did. Um. It was 1088 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 1: like it was like nine thirty pm in Boca Raton, Florida, 1089 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: and Olive Garden was closing at ten and I called 1090 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,479 Speaker 1: to them as we were leaving the theater to see 1091 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: if they would still see us, and they did. That 1092 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: is powerful. What did you have? I had chicken parmesan, yes, 1093 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: salad and breadsticks obviously, and it was Bellicia. It hits 1094 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 1: so so well and it felt like, um, the same 1095 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: the same level of like authenticness as the movie. Yes, yes, 1096 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: like the House of Gucci is the Olive Garden of films, 1097 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: and that is powerful. Have you been a Halive Garden? 1098 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're like, have I been to Olive Garden? 1099 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Why do you think she asked me about it? How 1100 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 1: I've been to Olive Garden? They live there. Do listen 1101 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: you were born there. I will be a hit on me. 1102 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to go to All Garden for New Year's Eve, Like, 1103 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's invite me. It costs like four 1104 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: but unlimited everything all night went out, not nothing, truly. 1105 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: It's like embarrassing. I have checked the website once a 1106 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: month in the past six months, like every once month. 1107 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I get on and I'm like, can I get tickets yet? Nope? 1108 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Okay It's either that or like usher in Vegas, and 1109 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can do that. It's going to 1110 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: be I was also considering a Vegas moment for for 1111 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: New Year's but I was going to go to Katie Perry, 1112 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, Katy cat to Katt we are Katie Ketty, 1113 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I love this about about you. Could Katie have done 1114 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 1: what Gaga did and Husse of Gucci? I know the answer. Okay, 1115 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to say no because Okay, although she is 1116 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: she does act in the Thinking of You video, Sure, yes, 1117 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: if you want to call that acting, yes, I will 1118 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: say this. I think that like Gaga is an actor, 1119 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 1: like she knows how to perform and she improves and 1120 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 1: it works, and it's like something like Father's House with Couti. 1121 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my gosh, like that's so perfect for 1122 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: this character, of this moment, all of the stuff. Yes. 1123 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: Katy Perry, however, is like just out of her mind, 1124 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: like I don't. She doesn't. She didn't interview with the 1125 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal like last week where she was like 1126 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I watched Succession to get business advice and it's like, 1127 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: oh right, okay. Katy Perry is just like crazy, like 1128 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: she's cookie. I love her, and she wouldn't. She would 1129 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 1: take a script and just be like these are like guidelines, 1130 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: like I don't actually need to do this and like that, 1131 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: and we're just like a completely incoherent film like it 1132 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: would have been just she cannot like play a character, 1133 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I think, except for Katy Perry, and that is the 1134 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: only character you should play. What's your favorite Katie Perry song? Um? Okay, 1135 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: this is a deep cut Um there's a chain to 1136 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: the rhythm remix with Yadi, But like I've listened to 1137 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot lately, it's it's like, honestly a very good song. 1138 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: It's a great song. But I think Witness would have 1139 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: been so much better if like Deja Vu Roulette had 1140 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: been the lead single. Oh yes, I just wish the 1141 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: album had actually been more like changed the rhythm. It's 1142 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: a very good album and people sleep on it. I 1143 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: need to give it a close listen. But Katy Perry 1144 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: has big flop energy. Unfortunately. I say this as a 1145 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Katie Cat. I want better for her, you know. I 1146 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: mean it's like her lat like the pre Daisy, she 1147 01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: released like four singles, all different artwork, all promotion. Never 1148 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: really Over is one of the best songs she's ever made. 1149 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: It's just like she doesn't give a fuck, Like that's 1150 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: my really Katy Perry is that she has oh that 1151 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: l A Times interview from I think two years ago. 1152 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: She says, essentially, do I need a number like another 1153 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: number one album? I've rung that bell, honey, and it's 1154 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 1: like the has like the most number one singles of 1155 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: any albums. To Michael Jackson, yes, but the implication that 1156 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Katy Perry has can make number one but now wants 1157 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: to choose to flop is brave, powerful, radical love. It 1158 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: can't get enough. Thank you so much. The girl flopping, 1159 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 1: but you girls so hard you just like start actively 1160 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: flopping and loving it. I love it. Oh, I love 1161 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: that Katie Perry has entered this space. We should maybe 1162 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: do a Katie episode at something. What is your go 1163 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: to order at all of Garden? The chicken parmesan, the 1164 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: chicken part I will call chicken parmesan. Love that you're 1165 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: considering all of Garden for New Year's Eve because Rose 1166 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: and I, I mean, this is very New York versus 1167 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: l A. But we were really wanting to do the 1168 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Margarite de Ville for New Year's Eve. We go, So 1169 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: we go usually go to the movies at Universal City 1170 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Walk and right next to the theater there is a 1171 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffetts Margaritaville. It's a very cursed area. Wait is 1172 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: this that place that has like it's like it's only 1173 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,919 Speaker 1: little village. Yeah, okay, I think I saw Dune there. Yeah, 1174 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 1: that's also where we saw Dune that friends slept through. Um. Wait, 1175 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad that just come around to Doune because I 1176 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: didn't think as I was walking into House of Gucci, 1177 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 1: I would love an Imax House of Gucci like we 1178 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:43,439 Speaker 1: accidentally saw. We imagine House of Gucci and three Yeah, 1179 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I would like No, I would like House of Gucci 1180 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and four d X where the seats shake and they 1181 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: spray you. Dacine. Yeah, well this is definitely shaped daring 1182 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the Saxcine. That's when he was taking her to Pound Town. Um, 1183 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: what do you what do you see next for Gaga 1184 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 1: filmic Lee m hmmm, aside from um entering the m 1185 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 1: c U, Yeah, which is inevitable. I really wish that 1186 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: she was going to be Ursula and the Little Mermaid 1187 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: as she had been. I think that's a very I 1188 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 1: think like a Disney live action adaptation. While they are 1189 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 1: the least of God's worries right now, I will say 1190 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: that I think that she could really succeed in something 1191 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: like that. Would she be not Ursula? I think she 1192 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: would be amazing in Disney, but not La Melissa McCarthy. Okay, 1193 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: so what else do we have? So we've already done 1194 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast, the Little Mermaid. Um, I don't done. 1195 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Okay, I'm a meeting the Beast. Truth. 1196 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:55,720 Speaker 1: I love them. It's like they're obviously um Maleficent. Um? 1197 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: Has there been Maleficent doesn't count? It was a spin off. 1198 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Has there been a good Disney Live action remake? Because 1199 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm actually I think Cinderella is actually 1200 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: very good. It was it was Kate because it was 1201 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: the first of them and so there wasn't this like 1202 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 1: expectation for it. I do think Gaga needs to play 1203 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: a villain. Oh yes, oh maybe the evil queen in 1204 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 1: a snow white. They did Aladdin and Dumbo. I forgot okay, 1205 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 1: Aladdin was that was really bad. I did actually enjoy 1206 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 1: parts of it. I'm ashamed to say, but it was. 1207 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: It was pretty bad. Oh. They did the Jungle Book. 1208 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: I forgot about that about Oh my gosh, imagine if 1209 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 1: she did Cruella, well, I mean we just got it 1210 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: with no if she had done it, maybe and Krella 1211 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 1: to Krella reloaded, Taga will be like her mom, her 1212 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: like tethered Corella her mom because her mom dies in 1213 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: the first one. Maybe she comes back to life. There's 1214 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 1: one thing Gaga is gonna do. It's come back to life, 1215 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 1: and she will come on set in an egg. You 1216 01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean it as we crawl his mom. 1217 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only thing that I would At 1218 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: this point, they're developing a Pinocchio live action right now. 1219 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: And is she going to be a geppetto Italian Italian legend. Well, 1220 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 1: you already know she does great drag and Italian and 1221 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the nose. It'll give her another chance to do the 1222 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: nose exactly exactly. You're so fucking ugly. Stop. I am 1223 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of sad that. I mean, I guess like Adam 1224 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 1: Driver in this movie like really resented his dad, but 1225 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't get a chance to say, 1226 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 1: like you could be left book and death if you 1227 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: fucking tried and like sell his peanut farm or whatever 1228 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: it was a pecan farm in Arizona. But thank you. 1229 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: I can't mean like one more Gaga movie where she 1230 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: like just really like attack someone's father for her, like 1231 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: to make it like a trend like, Lady Gaga does 1232 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 1: not recognize fathers, and that's powerful and amazing. Yeah, well, 1233 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 1: maybe she's like working out some tension with her own father, 1234 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 1: who is the restaurant tour a restaurateur and absolute Trump supporter. 1235 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait really yeah, so I don't know. 1236 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: When she said that she was looking for clues in 1237 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: d C during the inauguration, she was she was looking, 1238 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: she was looking for she was looking for her dad. 1239 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: We have to thank you. We have to talk about 1240 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga in messating the Insurrection, she said, I don't 1241 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: consider myself the person, but I am fair and I 1242 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 1: will find people. She's like her Barbara Walter's wig on 1243 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 1: and she said, I am a woman on the ground. 1244 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the story. I'm gonna get it live 1245 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: from fucking America. In her bulletproof dress, She's like, I've 1246 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 1: seen three seasons of Scandal and I know what I'm 1247 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:07,679 Speaker 1: doing here. Okay, that was like an iconic I'll listen. 1248 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: I'll say it. That quote was better than House of Gucci, 1249 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga saying, yes, The Insurrection was better than any 1250 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:20,799 Speaker 1: movie could ever be. What do you think Patrizia's favorite 1251 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 1: song on the Stars Born soundtrack would be why did 1252 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 1: you do this to me? Because she feels it? Why 1253 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 1: did why did he do this to her? That is 1254 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: I I don't know if like the stakes of Patrizia's 1255 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 1: emotional devastation were felt by me at the end, However, 1256 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: it was definitely the That's how I felt leaving the theater. 1257 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 1: Still like it was to me when I left the theater, 1258 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: the resonant thing was like she really even though she's 1259 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: obviously crazy and an anti hero, like I felt that 1260 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: how was she an anti hero or was she a villain? 1261 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: I think I think structurally she I think she was 1262 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: an anti hero personally because I think that they wouldn't 1263 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 1: have painted such a favorable portrait of her falling in 1264 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 1: love with Adam to me if they didn't want you 1265 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 1: to root for her at least a little bit. And 1266 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: I also feel like when even though um, I don't know, 1267 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: I feel like even though like there wasn't like they 1268 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 1: were part components of it that fell apart that I 1269 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,759 Speaker 1: think we're a fault of the script and not necessarily 1270 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 1: a fault of like Gaga, I still felt like it 1271 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 1: started and ended with a woman in love, and to 1272 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 1: me it was not even though it's her love is 1273 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,799 Speaker 1: corrupted by money and greed and power, which she obviously 1274 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: wanted to it still was about love and another Gaga 1275 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: film that ends with her with her man dead. Yeah, 1276 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 1: well Jackson Mane loves forever. There. We can at least 1277 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 1: determine that in whatever the Gaga's third movie is her 1278 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: she's gonna get in a fight with the dad, her 1279 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: husband's gonna die, she's going to be in a bathtub, 1280 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: and she's going to have a gay best friend. Yes, 1281 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: and I'm putting it out into the universe. Hunter Harris 1282 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: is going to write that movie. I will open final 1283 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 1: drop at this table like please do not test me. 1284 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 1: We will be back next week for a really important 1285 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: episode discussing sex in the city. Absolutely um, we will 1286 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 1: be invoking Samantha Jones, who allegedly is not dead in 1287 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 1: the new series. But you know well, we'll talk more 1288 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: about that next week. In the meantime, if you have 1289 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 1: a piece of pop culture that you love so much 1290 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: that you have to force all of your friends to 1291 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 1: experience it right along with you, you can call us 1292 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: to leave us a message and tell us about it. 1293 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: At three to three pennants. That's three to three seven 1294 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: three six two six to three. You can tweet us, 1295 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: post something on your Instagram story, just tell us what 1296 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: you think about the episode. Oh my god, frand your 1297 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 1: nipples peeking out? Oh my god, oh my god. Well 1298 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 1: if this was on Instagram, they would be taken down. 1299 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 1: You can also leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. 1300 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Um we love reading them there. They are really sweet. 1301 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: I love them. I am your co host Rose Damn 1302 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 1: You and I am fran Toronto. 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