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Speaker 1: Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClean smith. For

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Speaker 1: the weeks in between episodes, we look at the stories that,

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Speaker 1: In last week's episode, Shores of the Unknown, we ventured

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Speaker 1: The bizarre episode at Broadhaven School seemed to set off

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Speaker 1: history of the British UFO experience. Incredibly, this wasn't by

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven. For that, we need to travel four

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Speaker 1: old dentist Luccia Marquess was buying food at the local

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Speaker 1: Walking towards the shoreline, she found a large group of people,

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Speaker 1: if they were signaling to each other. Both incidences took

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Speaker 1: Back in blem Carlos Mendez pulls in a photographer and

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Speaker 1: that they meant no harm. Next, Hollander offered his arm

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