WEBVTT - #417 Packers Unscripted: Early impressions 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:20.840 Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.160 I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my partner in crime, 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.520 West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.960 at lambeau Field West. The first four practices of two 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.840 thousand nineteen Packers training camp are in the books. Two 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.120 practices in helmets and shorts, then one in shoulder pads, 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.839 and then one on Sunday in full pads. On Monday, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.320 the players taking a day off before they return to 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.000 the practice field on Tuesday. But first time there's a 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.360 new head coach and new sheriff in town, so to speak, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.400 running the show since two thousand and six. Your general 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.160 observations of just what these practices are like, Tempo and 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.880 efficiency is the number two things, and I hope i'd 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.240 instill one of those from you in terms of opening 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.080 up this topic. Tempo from the standpoint of not only 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.800 how they move in and out of the drills, Mike, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.040 but even within the drills. The one that really stands 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.000 out to me. It's a really small walk through. It's 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.360 only about two minutes long, but it's where they have 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.119 the first, second and third team offenses. Basically just run 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.440 go routes and the offensive line finishes to the end 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.560 zone with the receivers. Never seen anything quite like that before. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.080 Maybe that's commonplace in the NFL. I haven't seen it 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.920 in Green Bay. The other element is the fact that 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.080 all of these practices have pretty much wrapped up in 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.920 the range between an hour and fifty minutes and two 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.440 hours and eleven minutes. And Matt Lafleur was asked about 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.640 this after practice concluded on Sunday, and the question was, 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.080 I mean, is there going to be a two hour 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.040 and thirty minute practice in your two hour and forty 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.640 Sometimes will see those as you get into the padded work, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.800 And he really basically said no. He believes that they 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.400 can get in the work that they need to get 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.760 in in that window of time. He likes their evening walkthroughs. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.000 He believes that helps reinforce some of the concepts. And 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.320 if you really think about it, Mike, those walkthroughs that 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.480 we often saw with Mike McCarthy's practices, I know a 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.720 lot of coaches use them. It's like a twenty minute 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.440 period at the beginning. Well, they're just going to do 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.639 that later on during the day, So I just think 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.440 they've been really efficient with their time and also the 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.959 tempo in and out of drills has been really impressive. Yeah, 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.640 I think the thing that stood out to me in 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.480 terms of some things that are different from the way 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.440 things were run before. It speaks to some of the 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.000 conditioning that's built in, like you were mentioning, and it 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.520 goes along with the efficiency as well. There are times, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.840 whether it's seven on seven or the full team eleven 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.760 on eleven work where they're split up on two halves 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.840 of the field, So you have two quarterbacks and two 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.560 sets of offenses that are running stuff on one end, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.560 and then the other two quarterbacks and the other guys 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.240 on the other end, which is really a great opportunity 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.119 for guys like Tim Boyle and Manny Wilkins, your your 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.720 third and fourth quarterbacks at this point to get so 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.920 many more snaps than they would in a normal situation. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.239 And similar to that we've seen now since the pads 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.359 have gone on, the offensive lineman and the pass rushers 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.400 doing the one on one pass rush pass blocking drill. Well, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.680 every time two guys square off, they go too snaps 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.440 in a row. You know, whether it's Kenny Clark against 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.600 Corey Linsley, you know two guys who are starters, or 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.880 whether it's two guys further down the depth chair, they 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.760 go too snaps in a row, and I think that's 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:27.680 interesting from the standpoint of one conditioning, but also we've 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.959 seen it as we've watched the drill that whoever wins 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.239 the first rep, usually that guy then makes the adjustment 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.920 and then wins the second one, and it's a It's 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.200 one of those things I think that almost simulates a 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.960 real game better in that you know, you get beat 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.040 on a snap, you gotta come right back the next snap. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.360 You're facing that same guy again, what are you gonna do? 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.720 And uh So that's been interesting because it is very 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.680 different from what we've seen before. The one thing I 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.320 really liked about that adjustment, too, is in a game, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.040 it's very rare that a guy is going to go 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.640 in for one snap, rush as hard as he can 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.440 into the offensive linemen, then come off of the field. Um, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.680 there's a lot of physical, physical exertion that goes into 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.400 that play, and in some ways, I think that's always 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.120 been something that's been somewhat artificial. Everybody understands the drill 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.640 is slanted towards the defense, but I think that tilts 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.000 the favor even more in its favor. But this way 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.840 of doing it, you look a guy like Josh and 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.960 i'man who is going up against Rashaan Gary in practice 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.800 on Sunday. Gary put a great move on him, pretty 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.279 handily beat him on the first rep. They go back, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.119 they run it back and nine and the six ft 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.279 seven undrafted rookie, I believe out of Virginia Tech he 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.640 ends up making the adjustment, is able to stop Gary. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.280 I believe that was the only quote unquote loss that 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.760 Gary had in that drill. Otherwise he was really dominant. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.680 So um, I really like it. I think it's really smart. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.080 I think a lot of times in the past two 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.960 guys would go up against each other again, but it 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.279 would be eight, nine, ten reps later, going back to 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.080 back like that. I just think there's a real simulation 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.120 of an actual game feel. And I think that's been 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.440 a really nice adjustment that they've made. Yeah, it plays 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.039 into the tempo of everything that you were talking about 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:05.160 earlier as well. Okay, everybody always wants to know when 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.640 the first few practices are in the books, even before 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.159 the first practice is over, who's catching your eye, who's 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.200 you know who looks good out there? All right, Well, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.679 preface this by saying it's been only four practices, only 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.160 two of them in pads. There are seven more practices 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.040 before the first preseason game, and then there are four 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.680 preseason games that are going to obviously decide this roster 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.960 and select this fifty three man roster heading into Week one. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.480 But all that as a caveat Let's just bounce back 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.400 and forth a little bit here, starting with the offensive side. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.680 Who's caught your eye Jake Kumro and the reason I 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.800 want to use him is the number one example. Mike. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.120 I had this epiphany after practice on Sunday, and it 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.440 was trying to think back to last year in any 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.240 specific instance where Jake Kumro just did not have a 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.880 good practice, where he dropped passes, he just didn't run 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.599 the right routes, there was a miscommunication, and honest to goodness, Mike, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.360 I just couldn't come up with anything. Maybe you could, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.520 but the guy. The word consistent is thrown around so much, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.760 so much that it's such a cliche, But with Jake Kumro, 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.040 it is truly a fact. The guy in and out 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.960 day after day, play after play is exactly where he 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.279 wants to be. You hear Aaron Rodgers go and he 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.200 and he talks time and time again at his locker 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.880 about you know, this guy does all the right things. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.720 He's a guy that is accountable. He's someone that people 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.640 should look up to. And you're seeing why. This is 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.880 why Jake Kumro was not a one hit wonder. This 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.360 is why he didn't just have a couple of good 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.200 practices last summer and then fade into oblivion. This guy 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.880 made himself a part of the conversation. He made the roster, 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.000 he made plays late last season, and once again, despite 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.640 a wide open field, that receiver, he's again putting himself 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.599 in a position and not only make this team, but 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.160 find a role in the offense. Yeah, well, I'm gonna 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.400 go with the guy who's also at that same position. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.919 But I want to start by mentioning a couple of 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.640 other guys because, and this is the thing. The guy 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.479 I'm going to talk about in a minute is someone 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.200 who I've seen put together a string of practices. You 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.920 might say, there are some guys who have really caught 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.280 my eye in the first few days. One of them, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.120 Jamon Moore, thought he had a really really good practice 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.960 on Saturday. Deshaun Kaiser. I thought he might have had 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.640 his best day in a Green Bay Packers uniform on Saturday. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.440 I thought Jason Spriggs. He filled in on a day 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.720 when Brian Bulaga took a veteran rest day, he filled 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.880 in as the number one right tackle. Thought he played 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.520 pretty well, performed pretty well that day. But then he 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.520 comes back the next day and has a minor injury 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.320 to his raps is and doesn't have that opportunity to 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.160 build on another practice. So there are guys who have 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.920 definitely flashed and guys that certainly I'm excited to see 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.760 perhaps if they can build on those. But the guy 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.080 I'm going to talk about, who's that receiver just like 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.920 your guy Kumarro, And that's Trevor Davis. And the reason 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.400 I bring him up. We talked about him through ot ys. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.800 He definitely was showing up on the field and O 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.760 T A S and he was kind of the forgotten 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.080 guy with his season last year really being lost due 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.440 to injury. The three draft picks came in at the position, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.280 and those were the guys we were talking about all 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.040 the time. Trevor Davis on Sunday West, I quite frankly, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.320 for the bulk of the practice, whether you're talking the 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.000 one on ones with the receivers and the dbs or 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.280 in the team periods eleven on eleven, no matter which 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.400 quarterback was taken the snaps, I thought Trevor Davis might 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.360 have been the best player on the field that particular day. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.640 He was. He made a catch on the sideline, you know, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.840 toe tapping his feet, a really tough play. In the 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.880 one on ones, he was just flat out getting open 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.800 and eleven on eleven consistently would have had one of 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.600 the biggest plays of camp, except the ball was overthrown. Unfortunately. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.840 He's a guy that you're just seeing it from the spring. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.960 He's starting to build on everything. There's there's a progression 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.240 going on. He's healthy, which of course he's thankful for, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.959 and we know what he can do in the return game, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.760 and we'll see when the preseason games roll around exactly 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:08.000 where he stands in that aspect. But with regards to 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.559 Matt Lafleur's offense, we've seen these jet sweeps, whether you're 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.640 handing it off to the wide receiver or just doing 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.480 the jet sweep action to set up something else. Trevor 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.960 Davis has lined up in the slot, he's lined up 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.200 out wide. If he can keep this up, there's a 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.319 place for him and his speed and his skill set 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.600 in this offense. Now, again, I preface that by saying 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.040 it's really really super early here, and there's a long 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.680 way to go, but he's, in my opinion, he's making 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.959 a pretty strong first impression. And one thing that you 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.960 can definitely say unequivocally without putting out the caveat that 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.439 it's early in camp is ninety man roster for the 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.440 Green Bay Packers. You could make a very good argument 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.280 pound for pound, Trevor Davis is one of the best athletes, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.079 one of the most physically talented guys on this entire roster. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.160 When you look at his vertical, when you look at 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.559 his forty he does things that not a lot of 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.680 human beings on this earth can do. The key for 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.679 him has been trying to show that he's more than 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.079 just a returner. He's more than just what he showed 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.440 on kickoffs and punts in two thousand seventeen. He wants 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.200 to be a part of this offense. And I just 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.920 think he's done a really good job to this point 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.320 of the summer of reinserting his name in that conversation, 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.680 because all summer long, at least all spring, we were 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:25.720 so geared towards saying Geron wo Allison, the three young receivers, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.760 Jake Cumrow. A lot of times, Trevor Davis was that 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.680 forgotten name in that equation. I think he's putting himself 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.960 back on the tip of people's tongues, and I think 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.400 he's played really well to this point. I also just 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.800 want to mention one thing about Kaiser, because you pointed out, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.720 as you mentioned in you're correct in this, he's had 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.440 some of his best practices he's had in the Packers uniform. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.000 I think Friday and as you mentioned Saturday, for sure, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.560 this is a guy he's gonna say all the right things. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.880 He's going to say that the time in Cleveland and 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.800 the snaps he took our things are going to make 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.080 him a better quarterback in the long run. I still 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.800 debate that just based on how that season went for 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.680 the Browns, and I think when you look at the 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.040 history of quarterbacks that have been thrown into bad situations 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.320 right away, it's not easy to bounce back from. I 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.120 think what Kaiser has done a good job of is 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.640 taking those experiences, taking what happened in his intermediate spurts 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.520 last year, putting that in his rear view, and focusing 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.360 on the future, focusing on the fact that he is 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.280 a twenty three year old quarterback, the fact that in 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:24.920 a lot of years this would be where he would 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.080 maybe start coming out to be a guy that would 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.640 finally start seeing regular season reps. He's had an uphill 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.320 climb to the NFL just because of the situation he 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.520 was placed in. But now he's been able to work 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.319 with Aaron Rodgers and listening to him speak at his 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:42.319 locker on Sunday, the unwavering confidence that he has right now, 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.839 that is a skill, that's a talent, and that's something 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.520 that I think if he can make this thing go, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.199 if he can make a career out of this, is 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.200 going to serve him in the long run. That's that's 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.720 the byproduct of it. Yeah, he's another guy who needs 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.599 who needs to build and continue to show the progress 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.400 and then when you get to that preseason game, you 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.640 take it to another level. You you take what you've 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.160 done on the practice field and show it in another 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.640 way in an even more efficient, more explosive type of way, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.880 and I think he's going to have that opportunity. And 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.760 he's always had a big arm that The one thing 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.520 that's been nice to see is some of those long 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.679 throws this summer he's been able to make. Now he's 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.120 still there's still some accuracy the issues there. He needs 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.520 to obviously keep working on that, but he's put some 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.079 balls on a dime this year, uh fifty sixty yards out, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:26.800 and that's what you want to see from a quarterback 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.360 with his type of arm strength. Alright, switching gears to 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.320 the defensive side of the ball. Who's caught your eye, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.480 Sean Gary, I mean it's the easiest question. You asked 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.439 me on offense. Who was the guy who caught me? 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.400 I almost said Rashawn Gary. I mean, that's how quickly 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.520 I wanted to get that guy's name out of my mouth. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.240 I mean this guy and trust me, as you said, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.280 it's four practices. In no disrespect to Dayton Jones, he 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.880 looked really good his first few practices in Green Bay. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.400 But the thing that is different about Gary is that 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.640 he looked good in the offseason program when he was 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.560 coming off the edge very little contact. You saw the 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.680 explosive first step. But man, oh man, what he's doing 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.400 in some of these one on one drills. He's at 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.720 a three technique position. I mean, this kid has a 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.560 lot of powers. Six ft five, two seventy seven pounds. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.200 I asked him about this over the weekend, the fact 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.960 that he was able to cut his body fat from 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.280 down to ten basically since he got drafted from Green Bay, 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.600 and that was after he's putting everything that he has 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.839 into it, going into the draft and making himself as 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.800 marketable as possible. The potential you know teams this guy 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.640 right now, the position that he's in. I'm not guaranteeing 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.040 he's gonna have ten sacks. I'm not guaranteeing, you know, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.160 anything with him. I don't want to put that out there. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.560 But in terms of draft picks, first round picks that 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.720 I've covered here in six seven, eight years now, he's 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.680 had as impressive as a start when you factor in 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.920 his off season program. Is anybody that I've seen come 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.680 through green back? Yeah, you go to practice, you stand 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.199 there on the sideline and you can't help but notice 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.600 the guy. I mean, and and that's that's not just 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.000 because of his size, but it's because if you're watching, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.720 you see something happen and you're like, oh, who is that? 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.440 Oh yeah, it's number fifty two. I mean he just 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.240 he stands out on a regular basis out there on 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.120 the practice field. I think he's off to a tremendous start. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.679 There's no question about very violent hands too. Yeah. I 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.199 mean it's incredible with the amount quicknesses he has, the 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.640 amount of power he generates. Kid has all the tools. Man. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.680 He's a powerful He's a powerful, powerful young man. There's 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.960 no doubt about it. The guy I'm going to mention 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.600 on the defensive side of the ball is a guy 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.240 that we didn't see throughout the spring and the fact 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.520 that he has been out there from day one in 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.880 training camp and I think getting his feet back under 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.600 him and doing what he should. I think you already 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.920 know who I'm gonna say, and it's Kevin King, number twenty. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.800 He's been with the ones, he's been with the first 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.600 string as a starting cornerback. He and jayro Alexander. We 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.040 talked about them as the pair that really need to 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.240 stay healthy and be on the field. I think for 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.960 this Mike Petton defense in year two to be at 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.760 its best. I you know, I'm not saying there are 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.520 pacific plays that have jumped off the page at me 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.320 that Kevin King has made. But he's walked out there 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.040 and performed thus far in training camp as though he 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.120 didn't miss a bunch of time, and as though he 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.240 hasn't had these injury issues that have forced him to 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.800 miss unfortunately a lot of games in his first two 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.560 seasons in the NFL. I just want to point it out. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.160 I think he's off to a good start. I'm sure, 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.200 I'm sure Mike Petton is happy about that. And if 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.920 the Packers can keep this guy healthy along with Jayar Alexander, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.520 those two guys at cornerback, you really really like that 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.680 young tandem. Yeah. One thing, The Packers yearbook is now 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.400 on stands now there in the public. Get out to 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.760 your local bookstore and pick that up or buy it 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.440 on Packers pro shop dot com. Yeah, but there's a 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.240 story that you wrote on him and Alexander, and I 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.080 think it's a very salient thing to point out. Is 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.040 that to me, that story told at all in terms 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.000 of what these two guys want to do to push 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.240 each other and if everything, if all the stars aligned, 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.600 just how special that tandem could be for this team. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.880 That being said, the Packers had a very big plan 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.320 for King this offseason. They wanted to take it easy 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.080 with him. They didn't want to have any more setbacks 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.640 with the soft tissue injuries. They got him to training 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.440 camp healthy, and the fact that he's been able to 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.160 reinsert himself into those team periods I think has been 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.280 really important. I'll be curious to see how they handle 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.880 him with preseason and things of that nature, because he 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.360 still is a very young guy. I think he's still 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.960 only twenty three or twenty four years old, so those 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.160 are obviously reps that would benefit him. At the same time, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:35.720 you want to be cognizant of it to get to 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.880 the regular season because they are fail they are still 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.840 very young at that position. Despite Truman Williams being in 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.440 the conversation as well, but just as far as King 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.200 is concerned, he's put behind some of those injury things. 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.160 He does look kind of bigger to me a little bit, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.840 especially in the arms. I just think that he's a 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.680 guy that we talked so much about Jaire Alexander and 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.920 for obvious reasons kids extremely talented, but Kevin King has 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.960 had real nice bright spots as well. So if they 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.800 can get both of those guys going get the two 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.320 number one cornerbacks as I think they're gonna start calling themselves. Um, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.359 that's something the Packers haven't had in years. They just 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.119 haven't had two stable guys at those outside positions that 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.800 you can move around a little bit if you need to. Man, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.240 probably since going back to Sam Shields and went Tremont 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.520 Williams was in his prime. Yeah, yeah, I think I 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.639 would agree with that. Packers will have three practices this 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.280 upcoming week at rain Field Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday all at 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:35.080 ten fifteen, then Family Night on Friday night inside lambeau Field. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.760 As we go into uh, I guess you call it 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.000 week two of training camp or however you want to 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.280 phrase it. What are you going to have your eye on? 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.800 What are you gonna be watching for? Anything specific? I 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.520 want to see how the guys continue to battle with 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.840 the pads on. I mean, because we've only they went 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.199 half pads. I know Matt Lafloor still feels like that 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.840 was a fully padded section session. But this is the 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.840 big time of the year where you can start getting 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:01.439 those back to back pad. This is the only time 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.359 the year that stuff happens because once you get in 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.160 the regular season, you only get pads once a week. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.200 So seeing how guys respond to that, how they react 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:09.879 to that, how they get their bodies back in shape, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.720 it was funny. I'm gonna write about this later this week, 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.280 but I was talking with Cole Madison about just how 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.360 weird it was putting on pads for the first time 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.840 since the Senior Bowl in two thousand and eighteen, and 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.679 you know, he said, it just it takes a minute 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.480 to just get those on and kind of get that 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:28.280 first pop and feel that feeling again. But it's an 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.880 exciting time for them. And also the other thing I'm 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.879 very intrigued to watch as this thing develops is, you know, 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.880 if they can get Darnell Savage back on the field. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.600 He's been out for four days with the wisdom to 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.280 um you know deal uh Raven Green has been getting 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.440 some really valuable reps there in his place. But the Packers, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.560 the tandem is Adrian Amos in Darnell Savage. They were 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.440 building up some chemistry throughout the offseason program. If Savage 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.120 can get out there sooner than later, I think it'd 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.040 be cool to see how that develops. Even more Yeah, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:55.560 that was the guy I was going to mention is 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.720 Savage because taking nothing away from Raven Green, he has 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.679 stepped in as the other safety with Adrian Amos with 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.520 the number one defense while Savage has been out. But 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.640 I think everybody's interested to see what Savage is going 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.560 to do, and you'd like to see him get a 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.760 handful of practices under his belt before that first preseason 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.639 game when you're really trying to get some things to 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.680 come together. So we'll definitely be watching for number twenty six. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.640 The other thing I think we need to mention here 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.800 and I'm gonna need your help on one of the names, 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.600