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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my partner in crime,

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Speaker 1: West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. The first four practices of two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen Packers training camp are in the books. Two

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Speaker 1: practices in helmets and shorts, then one in shoulder pads,

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Speaker 1: and then one on Sunday in full pads. On Monday,

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Speaker 1: the players taking a day off before they return to

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Speaker 1: the practice field on Tuesday. But first time there's a

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Speaker 1: new head coach and new sheriff in town, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: running the show since two thousand and six. Your general

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Speaker 1: observations of just what these practices are like, Tempo and

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Speaker 1: efficiency is the number two things, and I hope i'd

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Speaker 1: instill one of those from you in terms of opening

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Speaker 1: up this topic. Tempo from the standpoint of not only

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Speaker 1: how they move in and out of the drills, Mike,

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Speaker 1: but even within the drills. The one that really stands

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Speaker 1: out to me. It's a really small walk through. It's

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Speaker 1: only about two minutes long, but it's where they have

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Speaker 1: the first, second and third team offenses. Basically just run

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Speaker 1: go routes and the offensive line finishes to the end

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Speaker 1: zone with the receivers. Never seen anything quite like that before.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's commonplace in the NFL. I haven't seen it

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay. The other element is the fact that

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Speaker 1: all of these practices have pretty much wrapped up in

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Speaker 1: the range between an hour and fifty minutes and two

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Speaker 1: hours and eleven minutes. And Matt Lafleur was asked about

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Speaker 1: this after practice concluded on Sunday, and the question was,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there going to be a two hour

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Speaker 1: and thirty minute practice in your two hour and forty

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Speaker 1: Sometimes will see those as you get into the padded work,

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Speaker 1: And he really basically said no. He believes that they

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Speaker 1: can get in the work that they need to get

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Speaker 1: in in that window of time. He likes their evening walkthroughs.

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Speaker 1: He believes that helps reinforce some of the concepts. And

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Speaker 1: if you really think about it, Mike, those walkthroughs that

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Speaker 1: we often saw with Mike McCarthy's practices, I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches use them. It's like a twenty minute

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Speaker 1: period at the beginning. Well, they're just going to do

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Speaker 1: that later on during the day, So I just think

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Speaker 1: they've been really efficient with their time and also the

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Speaker 1: tempo in and out of drills has been really impressive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that stood out to me in

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Speaker 1: terms of some things that are different from the way

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Speaker 1: things were run before. It speaks to some of the

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Speaker 1: conditioning that's built in, like you were mentioning, and it

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Speaker 1: goes along with the efficiency as well. There are times,

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Speaker 1: whether it's seven on seven or the full team eleven

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Speaker 1: on eleven work where they're split up on two halves

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Speaker 1: of the field, So you have two quarterbacks and two

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Speaker 1: sets of offenses that are running stuff on one end,

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Speaker 1: and then the other two quarterbacks and the other guys

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Speaker 1: on the other end, which is really a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: for guys like Tim Boyle and Manny Wilkins, your your

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Speaker 1: third and fourth quarterbacks at this point to get so

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Speaker 1: many more snaps than they would in a normal situation.

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Speaker 1: And similar to that we've seen now since the pads

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Speaker 1: have gone on, the offensive lineman and the pass rushers

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Speaker 1: doing the one on one pass rush pass blocking drill. Well,

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Speaker 1: every time two guys square off, they go too snaps

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Speaker 1: whether it's two guys further down the depth chair, they

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Speaker 1: go too snaps in a row, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: interesting from the standpoint of one conditioning, but also we've

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Speaker 1: seen it as we've watched the drill that whoever wins

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Speaker 1: and then wins the second one, and it's a It's

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Speaker 1: one of those things I think that almost simulates a

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Speaker 1: real game better in that you know, you get beat

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Speaker 1: on a snap, you gotta come right back the next snap.

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Speaker 1: You're facing that same guy again, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: And uh So that's been interesting because it is very

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Speaker 1: different from what we've seen before. The one thing I

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Speaker 1: it's very rare that a guy is going to go

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Speaker 1: i'man who is going up against Rashaan Gary in practice

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Speaker 1: handily beat him on the first rep. They go back,

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Speaker 1: seven undrafted rookie, I believe out of Virginia Tech he

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Speaker 1: I believe that was the only quote unquote loss that

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Speaker 1: So um, I really like it. I think it's really smart.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times in the past two

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Speaker 1: would be eight, nine, ten reps later, going back to

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Speaker 1: a really nice adjustment that they've made. Yeah, it plays

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Speaker 1: into the tempo of everything that you were talking about

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Speaker 1: earlier as well. Okay, everybody always wants to know when

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Speaker 1: the first few practices are in the books, even before

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Speaker 1: the first practice is over, who's catching your eye, who's

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Speaker 1: you know who looks good out there? All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: preface this by saying it's been only four practices, only

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Speaker 1: two of them in pads. There are seven more practices

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Speaker 1: before the first preseason game, and then there are four

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Speaker 1: preseason games that are going to obviously decide this roster

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Speaker 1: and select this fifty three man roster heading into Week one.

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Speaker 1: But all that as a caveat Let's just bounce back

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Speaker 1: and forth a little bit here, starting with the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: Who's caught your eye Jake Kumro and the reason I

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Speaker 1: want to use him is the number one example. Mike.

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Speaker 1: I had this epiphany after practice on Sunday, and it

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Speaker 1: was trying to think back to last year in any

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Speaker 1: specific instance where Jake Kumro just did not have a

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Speaker 1: good practice, where he dropped passes, he just didn't run

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Speaker 1: the right routes, there was a miscommunication, and honest to goodness, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't come up with anything. Maybe you could,

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Speaker 1: but the guy. The word consistent is thrown around so much,

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Speaker 1: so much that it's such a cliche, But with Jake Kumro,

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Speaker 1: it is truly a fact. The guy in and out

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Speaker 1: day after day, play after play is exactly where he

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Speaker 1: wants to be. You hear Aaron Rodgers go and he

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Speaker 1: and he talks time and time again at his locker

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that is accountable. He's someone that people

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Speaker 1: why Jake Kumro was not a one hit wonder. This

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Speaker 1: is why he didn't just have a couple of good

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Speaker 1: practices last summer and then fade into oblivion. This guy

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Speaker 1: made himself a part of the conversation. He made the roster,

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Speaker 1: he made plays late last season, and once again, despite

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Speaker 1: a wide open field, that receiver, he's again putting himself

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Speaker 1: in a position and not only make this team, but

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Speaker 1: find a role in the offense. Yeah, well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the guy who's also at that same position.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start by mentioning a couple of

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Speaker 1: who I've seen put together a string of practices. You

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Speaker 1: Jamon Moore, thought he had a really really good practice

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Deshaun Kaiser. I thought he might have had

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Speaker 1: his best day in a Green Bay Packers uniform on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I thought Jason Spriggs. He filled in on a day

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Speaker 1: build on another practice. So there are guys who have

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Speaker 1: definitely flashed and guys that certainly I'm excited to see

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Speaker 1: perhaps if they can build on those. But the guy

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about, who's that receiver just like

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Speaker 1: your guy Kumarro, And that's Trevor Davis. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I bring him up. We talked about him through ot ys.

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Speaker 1: to injury. The three draft picks came in at the position,

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Speaker 1: and those were the guys we were talking about all

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Speaker 1: the time. Trevor Davis on Sunday West, I quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: and eleven on eleven consistently would have had one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest plays of camp, except the ball was overthrown. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that you're just seeing it from the spring.

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Speaker 1: He's starting to build on everything. There's there's a progression

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Speaker 1: where he stands in that aspect. But with regards to

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's offense, we've seen these jet sweeps, whether you're

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Speaker 1: it's really really super early here, and there's a long

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Speaker 1: way to go, but he's, in my opinion, he's making

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Speaker 1: a pretty strong first impression. And one thing that you

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Speaker 1: can definitely say unequivocally without putting out the caveat that

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Speaker 1: it's early in camp is ninety man roster for the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. You could make a very good argument

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Speaker 1: pound for pound, Trevor Davis is one of the best athletes,

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Speaker 1: one of the most physically talented guys on this entire roster.

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Speaker 1: When you look at his vertical, when you look at

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Speaker 1: his forty he does things that not a lot of

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Speaker 1: human beings on this earth can do. The key for

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Speaker 1: him has been trying to show that he's more than

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Speaker 1: just a returner. He's more than just what he showed

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Speaker 1: on kickoffs and punts in two thousand seventeen. He wants

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Speaker 1: think he's done a really good job to this point

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Speaker 1: of the summer of reinserting his name in that conversation,

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Speaker 1: because all summer long, at least all spring, we were

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Speaker 1: so geared towards saying Geron wo Allison, the three young receivers,

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Speaker 1: Jake Cumrow. A lot of times, Trevor Davis was that

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Speaker 1: back on the tip of people's tongues, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's played really well to this point. I also just

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Speaker 1: want to mention one thing about Kaiser, because you pointed out,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned in you're correct in this, he's had

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Speaker 1: some of his best practices he's had in the Packers uniform.

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Speaker 1: I think Friday and as you mentioned Saturday, for sure,

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Speaker 1: If you look at the plays he made in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: why Nathaniel Hackett and his history wanted him to come

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Speaker 1: guys that have big home run power out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: In addition to Carson, so I have imagined that Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams is dealing with the hamstring. But those guys

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Speaker 1: look at just how many running backs are going to

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Speaker 1: another running back at that position. You're going to keep

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Speaker 1: the more halfback types do you keep it? As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: different skill sets, different physical attributes with these guys. So

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Speaker 1: be fun to watch. And I've been trying to tell people.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to say this since May. The fullback

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make any guarantees with the roster, but

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Speaker 1: Danny Vitali is playing as many snaps right now and

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Speaker 1: team periods as I've seen from many fullback going back

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Speaker 1: to John. I mean, he is just it has been

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Speaker 1: an emphasis. There's so much ie form stuff, there's so

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Speaker 1: much twenty one personnel. This guy has made the most

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Speaker 1: intriguing to watch how that whole thing develops. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: with that, we will call it a wrap on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscript. Would be sure to follow all

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