1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast works out with Ed Hockey Lee. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jnsus and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: a room full of heroes, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: What up, boys, Mark is not here. We're on a 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Sessler list streak, now, yeah, that is. That's too. He's 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: not the Cal Ripken of the podcast or the London 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Fletcher if I were to use an NFL player, which 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: would make more sense more because some family matters he's 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: tending to. But we're gonna make it through this. Yeah, 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're surviving. It's raining here in Los Angeles. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: I was. I was, it's the first time since you 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: got here, was right, I've never seen I went to 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: get food before we came in, and I just, you know, 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: walked across to the huddle and there were people huddling underneath, 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: you know, the outdoors, waiting to go across. And they 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: noticed they didn't have a jacket on her umbrella, and 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: they acted like I had just like trapes through like 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: falluja or something during it, like they treat rain out 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: here when I was in Georgia, like if it would snow. 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: It was like major news. People would freak out. Nobody 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: could drive. That's how people in l A treat ring. 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: People here are very weak when it comes to weather 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: like that. Just try to drive in these conditions. People 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: act as if it's you know, of a blizzard have 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: come down upon the grounds. They don't know how to 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: react to it at all. Have you seen a thunderstorm 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: out here yet? Yes, maybe one in three years. It 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot. It's generally nice here, which is 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: why it's not bad to live here. Um, all right, Bellas, 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: we have a big show today, Wednesday show. We're gonna 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: do h We're gonna talk about some of the biggest 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: disappointments player disappointments this season. Uh, Greg and I got 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: a chance to chat with Brian Hartline, the Miami Dolphins 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver in studio. We'll we'll give you that. We're 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna introduce a new series or stick of fork series 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: will get in that. But let's start as we usually 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: do with k Ridge behind the glass, the news, bunkers sex. 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: How you doing boys, well? I feel like I want 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: you getting more excited when your theme music comes in, 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: like a wrestler coming into the ring like, I don't know. 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: I thought Carridge was a little saucy there with her 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: response there her intro today, Yeah, I'm excited. You guys 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: don't see this smile on my face? Picture today? All right, 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: So what's what's going on? What's in the news? Alright, 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: big news day. Despite the Texans recent quarterback rows, Matt 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Shop will remain the starter and we'll be behind the 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: center one Sunday against the Rams. Gary Kubiaks paid him 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: twenty nine million dollars in the front office over the 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: last two years. The last thing they want to do 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: is bench him right now, if you know at all possible. 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: He said it was a very tough decision, so he 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: thought about it up until Wednesday. He was still thinking 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: about it Tuesday. And that just says, you know, if 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: there's another bad interception early against the Rams, I think 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: we see t J. Yates and then I think we 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: see him as a starter. We talked about his uh 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: poor play going back to the end of last year 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: or the Patriots game, and it's either a loss of 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: confidence or a loss of arm strength. I saw a 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: stat this week that was just incredible on play action passes. 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: His average attempt is three point eight yards. Yes, and 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's there. That's the foundation of everything 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: they do right in his I believe previously his average 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: attempt was ten yards on play action passes. That's an 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: incredible change. And it just it has to point to 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: some kind of loss of confidence that he can't put 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: a ball in a tight window, or that he he 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: he can't get the ball down the field. And I 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: think this Gary Kubiak quote during his news conference today 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: spoke volumes it was a tough decision, real tough, but 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it was the best thing for our 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: football team this weekend. You know, I don't that's a 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: little strange to me to you don't have to tell 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: the media everything you just said. That shops still I got. 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: We believe in them. And Steady hemmed in hot about 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: starting the seventh round pick. His stinks, Like I I 78 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: was a little surprised if they're truly it's a confidence problem. 79 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: That's not that's not a booster. It was like, well, 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: I really wanted to start shop. He's been great for us, 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: But have you guys watched him lately? That guy Rob 82 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: and what is it? And by the way, what is 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: the situation that's going on. It's still a little unclear 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: to me. I was upstairs, Greg and West you were downstairs. Uh. 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: There was a report last night that there were irate 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: fans coming to the match shop home. But now Shob 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: has spoke out, and maybe it's not quite how it 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: was originally. Uh told the story, you know, Matt Schob says, 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: there have been people going by his house and taking pictures. 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Somehow his address got out I think through the local 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: paper there and they called the head of security, and 92 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I think that story whether it was Texan security and 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: eventually NFL security, that story eventually mushroomed to this radio 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: report that that got some facts off. I guess people 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: weren't shouting up scenities out of it, That's what Matt 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Schob says. So it kind of set off everyone into 97 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: their moralizing, like how can fans do this? It's like, thanks, 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: we know fans shouldn't go talk to It's like everyone's 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: making the bravest stand against fans being total jerks. Like wow, 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: a great job by everyone. So you're saying, like Wally 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: and the Birdman in the morning, we're wrong in their 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: reports night, it sounds like it but to be honest, 103 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: the story that it's confusing because the NFL had a 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: security talked about it on the record to I and Rappaport, 105 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: and you know, they've looked into it. So it was 106 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: an issue, and I think something got confused along the way. 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: But I think if nothing else, it's gonna help uh 108 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: shob get some fans in Houston. I think they'll support 109 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: him this Sunday. I think they'll show that, hey, we're 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: behind this guy at least initially, and give him a 111 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: big until fifth pick six. Hey, what else is all? Right? 112 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Next up? I kind of want to whisper this one. 113 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder defends Redskins name in a letter to season 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: to get holders. I feel like this can go okay. Yeah, Well, 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: the one thing I will say on this I did 116 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: write the post on the Around the League blog this morning. Snyder, 117 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: who in the past has been very he's been filled 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: with vitriol on the issue. Uh back in May, USA 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: Today asked him uh if if they would ever change 120 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: the name, and his response was never. You can use 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: all caps on that. This time, he wrote a letter 122 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: that he sent to all season ticket holders in which 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: he was very uh reserved. He was very nostalgic about 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: going to the games with his father and how much 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: the team name means to the city. You know, it's 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: basically taking a new pr tact. Now, this would be 127 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the time where I would throw it to Chris Westling, 128 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: but I don't think west is even remotely capable of 129 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: providing a response that won't end with him working for, 130 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Lacrosse National Lacrosse League. I have many 131 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: strong feelings on this issue, but I don't want to 132 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: get my Twitter in box flooded with responses, so I'll 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: pipe down. Yeah, why don't Greg? Should we just move on? 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Shadowy league figures? And he's actually coming into the room. 135 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: He has very long fingernails. What else is in the news? 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: K Rich Alright, we're warming up some leftovers on this one. 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Julio Jones expected to be out for this season, but 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: Falcons will not trade their tight end Tony g Right. 139 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: A little bit of swag, A little bit it does, 140 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: the man doesn't need it. The guy is out of control. 141 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: West The Falcons are done. And not only are they done, 142 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: they missed their Super Bowl window. They are now a rebuilder, 143 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: not a contender. Look at the roster right now, with 144 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: Julio out for the year, Roddy White hobbled, Stephen Jackson injured, 145 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Sean Weatherspen injured, Kroyd Berman out. This is a four 146 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: win roster whoa couldn't have fallen. Apart that that, obviously, 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: Jones is offensive lines a wreck. Wide receiver corps is 148 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: a wreck running back corps. Awful, defense awful. This team 149 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: is not good, are you saying, Jets fan? I can't 150 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: take too much from I'm saying Julio Jones was best 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: player on that team and one of the twenty best 152 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: players in the NFL. The NFL is all about double teams, 153 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: and when you take away the only guy on your 154 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: offense who who demands double teams, it changes everything. This 155 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: would be like the Lions losing Calvin Johnson. I hear you, 156 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: but they've lost four games of the last second. If 157 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: they win three of those, their four and one, and 158 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: we're and we're not saying that their season is done. 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of it just comes down to luck. 160 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I disagree about their window being closed for good because 161 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: their window, to me, is about Matt Ryan and the 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: front office and Julio Jones and Roddy White is still 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna be around and that that was really all that 164 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: made the Falcon special to begin with. I don't think 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: their windows closed for good, but I think Demetro is 166 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: going to have to pull off some magic next year 167 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: in the form of draft picks, in free agent signings, 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: with trades to get this roster back where it needs 169 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: to be. One thing with Gonzalez also, I feel like 170 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: there's a slight disconnect because you see it in all 171 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: the interviews. The only reason he came back was to 172 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. Now he's saying, you know, he 173 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: came out and said that he loves Atlanta, he doesn't 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: want to go in where What did it make sense 175 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: if all he wants to do is win a super Bowl? 176 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: If let's I think the deadlines, that trade deadlines, maybe 177 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: in three weeks or so, if the if, the if, 178 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: if the Falcons could send him to a contender and 179 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: get back a third round pick, why who says no? 180 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: And why should you say no? Why wouldn't Tony want 181 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: to go to a super Bowl team and the Falcons 182 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: in a law season get back a good draft pick. 183 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to go learn a new system in 184 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the season, play with another quarterback who 185 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: isn't going to throw to him when he's got two 186 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: defenders on him. I mean this move your family. I 187 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: mean people forget their people. Well, he never moved his family. 188 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: He's playing well right now because defenses are sending two 189 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: guys to Julio Jones on every play. He didn't do 190 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: anything the first three games. The next two games, the 191 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: Patriots and the Jets stuck two guys on Julio Jones 192 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: and Gonzalez was more open Mike Smith. The Falcons have 193 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: no interest in trading him anyways, because he's the best 194 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: player on their offense right now other than Matt Ryan. 195 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: And they're still trying to win games, not like they're 196 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: just gonna wave the wave, wave the white flag, sorry, 197 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: and and give up on the scene. Don't think anybody 198 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: is giving up a third round pick for this iteration 199 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: of Tony Gonzalez now, I agree. Whatever, guys, Hey, what 200 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: else is in the news? Anything else? Yeah? We do 201 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: have more. The Players of the Week were announced, and 202 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: as a die hard Eagles fan, as all of our 203 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: listeners know, I am very pleased to announce that the 204 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: Sean Jackson was named Player of the Week in the 205 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: NFC and Also, Dan, this is for you the quarterback 206 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: for the New York Jets, Gino Smith, who looked like 207 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: a real quarterback in the NFL one Player of the Week. 208 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Yes he did, and that's the only reason why we're 209 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: doing this Player of the Week thing is just to 210 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: let Dan enjoy the aroma of Gino Smith. Well, I 211 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: want to say this, like Greg and his what We're 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: not overreacting to peace on Tuesday, kind of painted me, 213 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: as you know, the face of the buffoonish fan that 214 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: goes up and down every week. But know what, I 215 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: don't profess myself to be some expert. I am a 216 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Jet fan that goes up and down, and I do 217 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: feel that way. It's been a roller coaster with Gino Smith, 218 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: and I will say this, first of all, he played 219 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: a great game. Sixteen or twenty ninety nine yards, three touchdown, 220 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: some really good passes, and especially that last drive after 221 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: the defense gave away a thirteen point lead, he made 222 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: four nice passes to get them into field goal range. 223 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that he's really hard 224 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: to figure out, but he's made this season for Jets 225 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: fans fun. He's he's really he's reinstilled hope for the franchise. 226 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: And now I'm not saying hope like a Super Bowl 227 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: run hope, but I hope that we're not We're not 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a laughing stock. That we actually could be 229 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: fighting for a playoff spot in December. That's way more 230 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: than I could have asked for. I'm excited. Do you 231 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: want a reason to be even more excited? Yeah, on 232 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: deep throws, throws a fifteen or more yards, Geno Smith 233 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: leads the NFL and completion percentage and it's time for 234 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: the NFL leading completions. Yes, thank you. He's got a 235 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: great arm, and he's great in the two minute drill. 236 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: You almost you saw it at the end of the game, 237 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: and you think they should do that a little more. 238 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: That's what they did at West Virginia. And uh, I'm 239 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: just excited to see you happy. Only one only one 240 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: week after you broke out the M word, Matt, Matt Sims, 241 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: I think you were talking about it was literally it 242 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: was literally one week ago that you said, I don't 243 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do the rest of the season. 244 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can keep him out there 245 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: as the starter. It's like, well, then you were talking 246 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: about bench that speaks to my point, which was, this 247 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: guy has been a roller coaster before Monday. His previous 248 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: game was in Tennessee. He was a train wreck. He 249 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: he turned the ball over four times, he could not 250 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: hit the broadside of a bar, and he was terrible. 251 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: And now you know, eight days later, the guy is 252 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: playing like a pro bowler. I can't figure it out, 253 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: but I'm enjoying it while it's lasting. And uh, you 254 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: know you can't take the sunshine away from me. One 255 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: Craig point on DeShawn Jackson before we move away. I'm 256 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: doing for our Lenovo position ranks. Oh look at that. 257 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: They just got a free plug the past. We should 258 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: charge for that. I am doin wide receivers this week. 259 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: And one of the things that's evident, and Deshan Jackson 260 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: is the perfect example how hard it is to evaluate 261 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: one receiver in a system where he maybe the system 262 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: takes away from what he does best, whereas another system 263 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: might accentuate what he does best. Deshan Jackson's playing better 264 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: this year because of Chip Kelly's offense. And you know, 265 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: you have guys like Dwayne bow who isn't playing well 266 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: at all because Alex Smith refuses to throw downfield and 267 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: outside the numbers, and and maybe he's slower this year too. 268 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: You have Steve Smith who is coming off a bad 269 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: game but looks to me like the same Steve Smith 270 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: is last year. But Cam Newton isn't throwing accurately. Mike 271 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: Shull's offense is hurting him. It's hard to evaluate wide 272 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: receivers without including the system that they're in. Dude, what 273 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: does this have to do with the Jets? Sean Jackson? 274 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, I thought it was and back 275 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: to the Jets. No, no, no, that was he. I 276 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: thought you were going to bring it back to Jeremy 277 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Curley or all the superstars. Clyde Gates, that, Gina Smith 278 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: this somehow whenning there's nothing to say about Clyde gigs 279 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: by the way, and I've been very hard. And Stephen 280 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: Hill he had two nice catches on that last drive. 281 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: So good job, Stephen Hill, Good job by you. Anything 282 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: else care Rich? Okay, all right, let's move on. I 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: don't know if I said it in the intro, but 284 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: we do want to talk about Thursday night football a 285 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. We have the New York Giants, who, 286 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: as everyone that listens to the show knows I have 287 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: picked five weeks in a row to win. I am 288 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: oh and five, which is probably keeping me at of 289 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: first place. Basically, the Giants alone, um, they are going 290 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: to the Chicago Bears to I guess keep their season 291 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: alive is maybe an overstatement, but at least get some respect? 292 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: Is or do we have any reason to think that 293 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna be competitive in prime time on Thursday? 294 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: I have no reason to think that. I believe. Did 295 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: I see that this week that they are the first 296 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: team in NFL history to allow thirty one points in 297 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: five straight games or the first five games of the season. 298 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: That's a little surprise, actually, I think it was since 299 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: the Chicago Cardinals or something like that. But yes, they've 300 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: been cons that hasn't existed in six is something we 301 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: talked about the NFL like it's so unpredictable week to week. 302 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: But the Giants have been one of the most consistent 303 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: teams in the league. I mean, they have done the 304 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: same thing every week. That the way that they implode 305 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: in the late third quarter and fourth quarter each week 306 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Yeah, I don't I can't imagine. And now 307 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: they don't have David Wilson. I don't know how much 308 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: of a big loss that is, but you know, whenever 309 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: you see it is actually a big loss, because especially 310 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: when you see headlines like I saw on Twitter yesterday 311 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Brandon Jacob's ready for a much bigger role, it's it's 312 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: almost it's amazing to think, are they talking about his midsection? 313 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: It's amazing to think what is happening here? We are, 314 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: We are witnessing a complete dumpster fire for the Giants. 315 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: And and I still I'm gonna finally pick against him 316 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: this week, and I planned to do it a lot 317 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, but it's always subject to change, 318 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: of course, But uh, you know, it's I don't know. 319 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm just amazed by it. I never saw this coming, this, 320 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: this wipe out of the season. What does this season 321 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: say about Jerry Reese and Thomas Dimitroff, who are considered 322 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: two of the best general managers in football, They now 323 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: have two of the worst rosters in football. I think 324 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: the Giants much more so because they've been outscored by 325 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: a hundred points this season. The Falcons have gotten some 326 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: bad breaks and a ton of injuries. The Giants are 327 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: pretty much I mean They've had injuries on the offensive line, 328 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: but I don't think they've been decimated as a team. 329 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: So I think it says a lot more about Reese 330 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: because that defense, everything about the team is awful, right, 331 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: I agree, But I mean, I I think Jerry Reese 332 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: is a good general manager. I think de Mitrov is 333 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: a good general manager. I'm just wondering. I don't think 334 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: one season, one offseason doesn't say these guys can't do 335 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: it anymore. We're all picking the Bears. I it sounds like, yeah, 336 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: of course. I mean the Giants can't complete routine plays. 337 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: You know. Eli Manning has had three intentional groundings last week. 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Eli Manning was part was a big part 339 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: of the problem last week. He's just throwing balls up there. 340 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: I think he's getting more aggressive. He's starting to have 341 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: that Philip Rivers syndrome where where he sees the rushers 342 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: coming before they're even there. I mean, he is a 343 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: big part of the problem. And I guess the one 344 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: other one question I have is, let's say this ends 345 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: in a complete flame out two and fourteen, three and thirteen, 346 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: who's held accountable? Is it just gonna be a situation 347 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: where the coordinators get wiped out or do you have 348 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: GM unresty of coach unrest Eli assume is safe, but 349 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: you know what, what what would come now? I was 350 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: operating under the assumption that this was Coughlin's last year, 351 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: But I guess I think Coughlin walks away after this 352 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: and they'll never fire him. So even if he didn't 353 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: want to walk away, that's how it will be painted publicly. 354 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: But if this doesn't turn around, I think he walks 355 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: away and they get a new coach. Okay, let's move on. UM. 356 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: We had a post on the Around the League blog yesterday. 357 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: I wrote it, so I'm very proud of it. But 358 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: it was the ten biggest disappointments UH in the season's 359 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: first quarter. UM. I will just quickly run down my list, 360 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: and then I was just curious West and Greg your 361 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: thoughts on it. Maybe someone that's not on the list 362 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: that should have been, or someone who didn't deserve to 363 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: be here. I have David Wilson and the Giants, Andy 364 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: Dalton of the Bengals, C. J. Spiller or the Bills, 365 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: J PP of the Giants, Tavon Austin of the Rams, 366 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: Mo Claiborne of the Cowboys, Cam Newton and the Panthers, 367 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Courtland Finnegan of the Rams, London Fletcher of the Redskins, 368 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: and Eric Fisher, the number one pick of the Kansas 369 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Thoughts, I think that's a great list. Uh, 370 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: you help me make it. I'm glad j p P 371 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: was on there. I mean he's he's been right up there. 372 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: I saw Brent Sellick Black and JPP about twenty yards 373 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: down the field last week. I'm thinking, is this guy? 374 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Is he even trying well? And as I wrote in 375 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: the post, be aware of the professional athlete coming off 376 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: back surgery because you never know what that means, and 377 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: usually it really messes with their whole system, in their 378 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: whole world. It has to be. This situation here doesn't 379 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: fill me with hope that Gronkowski will make a big 380 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: impact right away. Wait, so you helped with the list. 381 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know that that no teamwork. It's supposed to 382 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: be around the league. This was a week ago. I 383 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: forgot about. Yeah. I asked West I was looking for 384 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: a few defensive players, and he brought up as an 385 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: example London Fletcher, who's actually it's funny Pro Football Focus, 386 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: who you know a lot of people put a lot 387 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: of stock into their ratings. He's ranked forty nine out 388 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: of fifty three or four inside linebackers. Courtland Fittigan is 389 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: ranked the worst cornerback in the league right now. Now 390 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: he's injured, But I mean, these are guys that have 391 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: been known as performers and they've just dropped off the table. 392 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: You know, you could make this top ten list solely 393 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: running backs. And this kind of goes into the fantasy 394 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: situation too. You've got Maurice Jones, Drew Ray, Rice, Trent Richardson, 395 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: David Wilson, Chris Johnson, Doug Martin, all averaging less than 396 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: three and a half yards per carry. You've got Steven 397 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: ridd In a timeshare averaging less than four yards per carry. 398 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: C J. Spiller. They're not using him the way Chan 399 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: Gailey did and he's not playing as well. And then 400 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: you've got the Saints running backs who aren't running for 401 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: anything right now. And I guess the one I would 402 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: concentrate on as Trent Richardson, who you've had some fun 403 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 1: at his his expense. Uh My Twitter page has had 404 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: a lot of fun at his expense. And I went 405 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: back and I didn't watch all of his Week three 406 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: and four carries. But I watched everything he did against 407 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and we talked about how they brought him 408 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: into run power. They can't do that there every time 409 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: they use a fullback in front of him. I think 410 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: his average was under a yard per carry. When they 411 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: spread the field, he averaged almost five yards per carry. 412 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: They can't run power behind that offensive line right now 413 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: because there's no holes. Well, they were facing Brandon Mebane 414 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: and Red Bryant. Very good defense he did. I will 415 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: say he had a pretty signature run at the end 416 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: of that game to kind of put the game away. 417 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: Broke some tackles. It was a third and six something 418 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: like that, so I thought, well, maybe there's something to 419 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: build off. Then again, right after that, I think you 420 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: have three straight one yard runs or something. Right, I 421 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to rethink. I know they want 422 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: to play defense and power running, they might have to 423 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: rethink that, especially with their best player being a quarterback. 424 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: What does it say about the league, um that all 425 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: these top running backs are struggling. I would almost think, 426 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: just from a common sense perspective, if this is now 427 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: a passing league as they say, and guys are throwing 428 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: the ball over the field. That would create an easier 429 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: task for these high level running backs, but instead it's 430 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: the opposite. There's gotta be something tying this together. I 431 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I wish I was smart. 432 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: I wish I was smart enough to tell you seen 433 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: a lot of bad offensive blind play this year. You're 434 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: no longer the cliff. I don't want to. I don't 435 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: want to do wild speculation on something I'm ignorant. I 436 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: have a stat for you. Thirty at this point last year, 437 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: thirty yard games from running backs. This year eighteen yard games. 438 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: So I mean that's that's pretty dramatic. Well I think, um, 439 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: I do have a theory. They're only talking about thirty 440 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: six seconds. I like it. We talked about um. I 441 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks ago, about all 442 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: of the great young defensive tackles in the NFL. Right now, 443 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of ferocious front sevens, and maybe 444 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: teams are devoting more draft picks to their front sevens 445 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: than they are to their safeties and cornerbacks. Well, here's 446 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: another thing. Passing is easier than running. It always has been, 447 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: it always will be. I mean, that's why people talk 448 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: about you gotta run the ball, but it's it's at 449 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: no point in NFL history has running the ball ever 450 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: been more effective than passing the ball. On a per 451 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: play basis, it's always easier. And now that you can 452 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: spread the field and really get horizontal and the rules 453 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: all favor the offense, it's just even more dramatic. Here's 454 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: another stab out of the theory. So everybody spends their 455 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: off season working on the past because they know it's 456 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: a pass heavy league now and nobody really puts his 457 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: much time into running plays and getting the running game orchestra. 458 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: We've gotta get Chris B. Brown on this, Yes we do. Uh, Greg, 459 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: I didn't hear yours. What was your disappointment. I'm gonna 460 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: go with Colin Kaepernick because I don't necessarily think he's 461 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: played the worst of everyone I could come up with, 462 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: But personally, after what I was thinking his season was 463 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: going to be like after Week one of the season, 464 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: to think four weeks later, I'm kind of wondering, are 465 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: the forty niner is going to be able to throw 466 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: the ball at all this year? This is the guy 467 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: we talked about with unlimited ceiling and the reality is 468 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: he has not thrown the ball well for a month, 469 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: and that it's a it's a team, it's a function 470 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: to the whole team. But he hasn't either, He's missed throws. 471 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: It's almost like he wasn't ready to really run that often. 472 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised. I'm I'm more surprised and disappointed about 473 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: him than any of the other young guys. The disappointment 474 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: to me with him is that they've turned him into 475 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: Alex Smith right exactly exactly. It's the whole thing, the 476 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: whole passing game. I guess I could throw into this 477 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: mix Gregg Roman and just the whole forty passing at 478 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: that they've decided he's not ready to be what he 479 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: was at the end of last year. With with the 480 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: way the surrounding town is now. You know, it's funny. 481 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: Also is that Sunday night game, which was obviously an 482 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: easy win for the Niners against Texans, But before his 483 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: garbage time touchdown past Vernon Davis, he had thrown for 484 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: about sixty yards and three and a half quarters that 485 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: even Alex Smith was thrown for one. You know what 486 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and this is that's pretty weird. Another stat 487 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: from our research department. He only completed six passing in 488 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: that game. That's the most for a winning quarterback that 489 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: stayed in the whole game. Since let's try to guess. 490 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I bet you can guess it. Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, 491 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, I think he had two completions in the 492 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: win that went over the Chiefs that year. But that's 493 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: that's the kind of company. Their offense and passing attack 494 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: is keeping the eighty yards passing into game stuff like that. 495 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Al Right, we have a special guest in the studio. 496 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: He is wide se Miami Dolphins new contract and putting 497 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: up his best numbers ever wide receiver Brian Heartline. What's up, guys? 498 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: Whoa producing Miami Dolphins? There is what you get when 499 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: you come into our podcast Beating Heart here, That don't 500 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: we get the k Rich what's with the beating heart? Heartline? 501 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: Beating Heart Dolphins in the back. Absolutely, yeah, I didn't 502 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 1: even know that was coming. The dolphin sounded like a 503 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: five year old boy. It was. Actually that's how the 504 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: NFL rolls. That's yeah, that's kind of dangerous area. Yeah, 505 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: what's up Brian? Hey man, it's having a great time 506 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: out in l A. You were here early. Yeah, first 507 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: time out to five thirty in the morning, your week off? 508 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Why things we do for the NFL? Man, Well, you 509 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: were on NFL a m That's why we're it's not 510 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning. All our listening here. Now, 511 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: how did that go for you? It was awesome as 512 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: a blast, we had fun td uh we were doing 513 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: some shooting around with um Candice and uh a blast. 514 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: I think I still want we can go back and 515 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: check the tapes. I think I'm pretty sure we're still one. 516 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: The score tracker wasn't right, but that will be a 517 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: gentleman about it. That was It was quite a battle. 518 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: I believe Candice went triple digits. Not she, I thought, 519 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: I thought so. Maybe I was wrong, Greg. I'm on 520 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: a first name basis with Candice Parker. We are very 521 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: close friends, all right, Brian. So the first thing I 522 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about. You know, the Dolphins started 523 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: out three and oh, now you're three and two. We 524 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: have Dolphins fans in the office, including our colleague Cansome Hank, 525 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: who I believe you spoke to with the Dave damage 526 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: like football program is it is it fair to start 527 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: being nervous if you're a Dolphins fan that this is 528 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: same old Dolphins. Oh, that's expected. I think that uh 529 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: here we've had we've had a rough a decade or 530 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: so I think of of Dolphins football, and that's understandable. 531 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: We are realistic on where the pass has been, but 532 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: we're also realistic. This is a whole new team, even 533 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: from last year. We probably have every bit of price. 534 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: Sixty percent of our teams probably new and uh um, 535 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're embracing that this is a whole new, 536 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: whole new era, whole new coaching staff. We're going about 537 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: things in a different way. And uh, we did give 538 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: some games away. We're still trying to find out identity. 539 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: I think a little bit. We're trying to get the 540 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: running game going and really I'm just speaking offensively. Uh 541 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, there are some things that uh, we want 542 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: to get better at. There's things that we're doing well 543 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: we want to continue to do better at. But it's 544 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: good that the week six for us was our by 545 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: because this gives you a chance to do a little 546 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: self evaluation and really get ready to hung hunger down 547 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: for the next eleven games. So it can be a 548 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: blessing disguise. Like every game is close. Yeah, uh you 549 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: know that's yes, it is. And I hope we can 550 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: get out of that. That uh, that routine. Um, you know, 551 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: we're proud of that though. We're gonna make every game 552 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the fourth quarter. We're gonna pride ourselves 553 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: on that, and we're gonna finish games better than we 554 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: have in the past. Uh so of late, I should say, 555 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: and uh, but we take care of the football when 556 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: we number one, take care of our quarterback number two, 557 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: and we're hard team to beat. One thing I was 558 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: curious about, you know, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, r G three. 559 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: These are all quarterbacks that they came into the league 560 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: last year. They're seeing as the new guard, the future, 561 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: your quarterback, Ryan Tannehill. While there are people that are 562 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: big defenders, including my colleague Gregg, who is basically a 563 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: fanboy almost let's be fair. I thought he was right 564 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: there with those other guys. How come Tannehill doesn't get 565 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: mentioned with those guys when those conversations happen. People we 566 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: have a fascination or fixation with instant gratification, and that's 567 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: what we've grown to be accustomed to. I feel like 568 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of offenses. And I'm very passionate about 569 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: how I feel about certain things, but this is one 570 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: of them. I think that you know, people see instant 571 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: change or or the read option or you know, things 572 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: that are quick fixes that help people win football games, 573 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: and uh, and they come in inebriated by it. They 574 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: love them. They think they're the God, the savior, and 575 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: and people need to understand that everything happens for a 576 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: reason and that if these players that God forbid, they 577 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: do an excellent job and they stay at the pace 578 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: they're at when they were their rookie year, they will 579 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: break every record known to man. So that's not gonna happen. 580 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's guys that take different paths. So you know, 581 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: you you listed off a handful of guys, you probably 582 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: could pick two or three that more than likely will 583 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: begin to decline throughout their career. And there'll be something 584 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: you did not mention that are becoming to incline, whether 585 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: it be like and unfortunately guy's getting hurt. You see 586 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Brian Horrier trying to emerge and then he got hurt, 587 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: or you see you know you're Geno Smiths. You see 588 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: your e J Man. So you have guys that are 589 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: there that aren't you know, quote unquote name guys either 590 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: are still earning their right but that's how they become 591 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: so good guys that come so easy to them sometimes 592 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: not saying always sometimes then you're starting to decline around them, 593 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: so around them and themselves. So and I don't think 594 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Ryan's one of those guys. I can't wait to see 595 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: what Ryan is at the end of this year, let 596 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: alone in two or three years. And uh, you know, 597 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. He works hard, he to be great. 598 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: So at the NY time you've got that kind of combination. Uh, 599 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: it can be uh pretty encouraging. What does seem like 600 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: he's improving this year? What do you see different out 601 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: of him and the offense in general? Now in year 602 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: two under Mike Sherman, you know, he's just he's able 603 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: to be more of himself because as a rookie, you 604 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: get so you're worried about stepping on toes. Used to 605 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: get so worried about uh you know, you really want 606 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: to voice your opinion, but you don't have that foundation yet. 607 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: And he understood that. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, 608 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that he didn't feel as comfortable. 609 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: I seeking, you know, telling eight year vet to you know, 610 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: to get his stuff together, you know kind of thing 611 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: so or alignment or whatnot. So he was really just 612 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: worried about his game. At this point. He's got such 613 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: a handle I think on the offense and what we're 614 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. And really he's had it since college too, 615 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: that he's able to reach out and really try to 616 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: help other people, you know, help their craft or what 617 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: he kind of wants from people. And hey, I know 618 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: we have a twelve yeard hook. If we have this, 619 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, expectaball here. So it's growing. It takes time 620 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: and uh, and again he can be himself and at 621 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: times people get out of line. He's able to kind 622 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: of shoot people out and that and that's needed, Uh, 623 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: if you want to have success in this league. Last 624 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: thing for you, how has Fantasy football and Twitter changed 625 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: your relationship with fans? It stresses their relationship, I you 626 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: know what. And it's so it's so humbling too because uh, yeah, 627 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: we bring up oh the fans think, oh it's the 628 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: same old Dolphins. Right. So we had a couple of losses. 629 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: I get immediately I'm like, oh, well, I'm off social 630 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: media for about a week or two. That's my initial thought, 631 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: let alone fantasy football. So but then again, and then 632 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I got on Twitter, and I was amazed and astonished 633 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: and really, uh, you know, humbled by how great the 634 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: Dolphins fans have banned lately. You still always have your 635 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: names here, you still always see them, which is fine. 636 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: But the amount of support we have from the Dolphins fans, 637 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: either throughout the country of the world, especially in South Florida, 638 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: has exponentially grown. So, you know, credit to them. They're 639 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: doing a great job. They're filling our stadium, they're getting 640 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: a loud and we love that. We were We know 641 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: it helps us, it chooses us up and uh, but yeah, 642 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: it does stress the relationship. Either times where I win 643 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: games and I'm like, gosh, I had what I probably 644 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't get on social media and we just won the game, 645 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm like gosh. So you know, I understand it. It It 646 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: gives them, uh purpose, It makes every game so enjoyable. 647 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: When you're losing, it's like, oh, we're losing. Hopefully you 648 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: know they're gonna throw for fourgner yards and my guys 649 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: can get some touchdowns and it makes it worthwhile. So 650 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: it's changing the NFL, but it does put it out 651 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: of stress from the player or athlete to fan relationship. 652 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: All right, Brian, thanks, I know you're very busy. You're 653 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: going through the Culver City car wash. Good luck the 654 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: rest of the season. Stay healthy and appreciate alright. So 655 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: we have a new segment. It is the it's a 656 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: kind of a new old segment the stick of fork 657 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: in Him series, which we ran last year on around 658 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: the league. That was a Greg Rosenthal uh invention where 659 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: we greg why don't you explain what is the stick 660 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: of fork in series? Well, we're it's just when we 661 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: decide that a team has no chance to make the playoffs, 662 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: that we're saying in their season is over. They're playing 663 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: for next year. It's obviously not mathematically eliminated, but we 664 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: try to be careful. We're not We're not gonna get 665 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: any wrong this year. It's supposed to be a hundred 666 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: percent success rate. We famously, uh World famously got the 667 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: Redskins wrong last year. But no one's gonna remember that. 668 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: You don't have to tell peoples. Society needs to know. 669 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: But the point of the matter is that's it. That 670 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: was kind of like we were getting our feet wet. 671 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Now we will roll forward from here until eternity never 672 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: get one wrong. And so let's start with our first 673 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: entry to the Stick of Fork series two thirteen. Kay Rich, 674 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: here lies the two thousand thirteen Jacksonville Jaguars who passed 675 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: away peacefully on October six after an extended trip to 676 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: the Gabbard Zone and Louis Flowers. The family suggests memorial 677 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: contributions be made to the Gus Bradley Self Esteem Fund. Guys, 678 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: this is the uh. I don't know why I know this. 679 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: This is the first team since the Giants to lose 680 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: all five of their first five games by at least 681 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: ten points. They have they have never been in a 682 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: game this year. If you love random, probably useless stats 683 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: that will not impress your girlfriend, this has been the 684 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: podcast for you today. Hey, which is why I do 685 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: not have a girlfriend. What what can you say about 686 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars? Listen, they have We're not exactly going out 687 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: on a limb here, Yeah, this is obviously they're going 688 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: to get tougher as as the year goes along. Frankly, 689 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: we should have stuck a fourth in them in week three, 690 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: but we forgot to start this until now. So that 691 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: explains why. Uh, they don't have a quarterback. They don't 692 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: have many playmakers. They have some parts on defense, but 693 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: really not much there either. I don't think what parts 694 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: do they have. I'm just trying to give him some. 695 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give him something. I mean they have. 696 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: They used to have a nice set of book and tackles, 697 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: but now Eugene Monroe's in Baltimore and Luke Jokels on 698 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: i R. This is potentially one of the worst teams 699 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: in football history. The only reason for me to follow 700 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: this team the rest of the year is to see 701 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: if Maurice Jones, Drew and Paul poz Lusni and Marcedes 702 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: Lewis and even Ouch Niwan Nary get traded David David 703 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Caldwell has said he's not actively shopping these guys, which 704 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: is code for if you call me, you can have 705 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: him for the right price, because I want draft picks. 706 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: What what's good about the Jaguars, I mean looking to 707 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: next year, what can they feel like this is something, 708 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: even if it's small, to build on. I can only 709 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: think of one thing. Justin Blackman and Cecil Shorts are 710 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: two good receivers. That's something Jonathan Cyprian might be okay, 711 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: might be okay, I'd be pretty good. I would say 712 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: the one maybe good thing is in seven years, when 713 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: we have the Shod Khan of football life, he could 714 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: point to this season as the year it all changed. 715 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: Seven years for football, they'll have four rings by that time, 716 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: they're three years with only two good players on their team, 717 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: will be four time Super Bowl champions in seven years, 718 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: that's all you had, and this will be seen as 719 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: the rock bottom moment where you know you go. Let's 720 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: let's say they win one game. I would think they'll 721 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: probably win one, but at this raid, who knows, and 722 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of they need to get out 723 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: of this Gabbard zone for good and maybe they get 724 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: a good if they get Teddy Bridgewater or another quarterback 725 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: that turns out to be really good. We've seen it 726 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: a million times. We saw it with the Cults. Things 727 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: can turn around quickly. We saw it with the Lions. 728 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: But that Lions team wasn't nearly as bad as this 729 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars team I think you know projects to be because 730 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: it's rare to have a team that's the worst in 731 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: the league on offense and might just be the worst 732 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: in the league on defense. To do to match those 733 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: two up together just creates a lot of excitement in Jacksonville. 734 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: The Fines. They have back to back number one overall 735 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: draft picks and hit on two very valuable players. You 736 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: don't have an and Dominican Sioux come out every year 737 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: at number one overall. And we can't really get into 738 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: too much in the way of details when it comes 739 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, but Vegas doesn't have a lot of 740 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: faith that the Jaguars will get out of the get 741 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: off the Chnaid against the Denver Broncos on Sunday. What 742 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: is this Vegas you speak of? So what do we think? 743 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: Do we think they win? What's your win total for them? Now? 744 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: It was probably around three or four to start at 745 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: the year two or three. I don't know. I had 746 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: them at three. Personally, I think they'll squeeze out one, 747 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: but that could be generous. I'm going zero. Oh my god. Look, 748 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: you don't deserve for us to guess that you're gonna 749 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: have a win when you when you say every week 750 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: to Blaing Gabbert's our quarterback, you're not even trying. Josh 751 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: Freeman's out there. You don't want him. You're punning the season. 752 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: We see through that. I don't want to give you 753 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: a win. I instinct this to say, too, because just 754 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: almost every team falls into two wins. But this is 755 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: one of those uniquely awful teams, and I think so 756 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: it smells like a one in fifteen team. They'll find 757 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: a way to beat Ryan Fitzpatrick in the type something 758 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: will have. All you need to do is have one 759 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: Chad Henny turned back the clock game and you got 760 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: your victory. But they they see back the clock to 761 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: win two thousand twelve. I guess you know he had. 762 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: He had, he had his moments in Miami. Sorry, Jaguars, 763 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: it's over for you. We've made the decision. You might 764 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: as well not even show up anymore because your season. 765 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: So we forgot one other asset. They have a third 766 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: round punter on their team. He's a good one too. 767 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: They passed up Russell Wilson for him. That was not smart. Uh, well, 768 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: next week we'll we'll add another team. Uh to the 769 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: stick of working him series. You don't want it to 770 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: be your team, So you better win this weekend. And 771 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: that is it for the podcast today. Uh. We'll be 772 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: back Friday. We'll talk about the Thursday night football game. 773 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: We'll look forward to the rest of the week. Sixth 774 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: action Daniel Deremiah actually non Friday. Yeah, sticks we move. 775 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: The sticks will be here. I will not be here. 776 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: I will be flying back to New York. I have 777 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: some family business myself. I leave it in your capable hands. Fellas. 778 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: He has more football knowledge, and he actually has more. 779 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: He might even have me beat and saved by the 780 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: bell knowledge, which that's what I'm really upset about. He's 781 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: a renaissance. He is. Thanks to Brian Hardline for coming 782 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: into the studio. This is Dan hands As signing off 783 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: for the Mailman, the Boss, Cambridge behind the glass and 784 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: of course Lyle the Insured until frid