00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're our presences. Presence enough. I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. Look, I'm just absolutely late to this podcast. I know you're not aware of that, listener. This is airing whenever and you're listening to it on your little timetable. But I'm I was absolutely ten to fifteen minutes late to this podcast, which is being recorded at my own home. There's no excuse. You expect a greater deal of professionalism from me, higher standard, and I understand that. So I hope you can forgive me. I hope we can release some of the energy of me weaving through traffic on my way home. I mean, and this is maybe three weeks from now, but I was listening to the new Beyonce album and it was had the time of my life, absolutely the time of my life. What are we talking about. We're talking about the podcast. We're getting into it. We have to talk to today's guest. It's Kelly Hudson. Kelly, welcome to I said, no gift. 00:01:46 Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. Thank you, Richard. 00:01:48 Speaker 3: I'm bringing an energy here that's maybe not frantic, a little frantic, and I'm glad you're picking up on that. Sometimes I'll say I feel frantic and people are like, you don't seem frantic. 00:01:57 Speaker 2: Now you seem frantic. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: For someone acknowledged. Thank you acknowledge my reality for once, I feel. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: Yes, apologetic, frantic, horrified. You're okay, though, It's okay. I got here. I was told you were going to come a few minutes late, so I came a. 00:02:16 Speaker 3: Few minutes late. Oh beautiful, just. 00:02:18 Speaker 2: Getting settled in. When you walked in. 00:02:20 Speaker 3: I almost called you on my way to warn you, but then I thought, what is that going to do? 00:02:25 Speaker 2: This? 00:02:25 Speaker 3: What this equation already feels messy, And then for me to be calling emergency. 00:02:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pre doing a pre apology because. 00:02:34 Speaker 3: Then I would have been apologizing again, Yes, I got here, yeah, and it's too much. And now the listener is just listening to me apologize. 00:02:41 Speaker 2: It's kind of fun to be on the other side of someone being frantically late and apologizing. I feel like I'm always that first. 00:02:50 Speaker 3: Are you a late person? 00:02:52 Speaker 2: I'm mostly a late person, yeah, and I hate it, but I can't change it. 00:02:58 Speaker 3: I've heard that about late people. 00:02:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's really hard. And I was diagnosed with ADHD last year, so it makes a little bit more sense now, just like I'm trying, Like, I look at the clock and then like, so, okay. For ADHD people, I'm told that there's two time modes. There's either now and not now. 00:03:18 Speaker 3: Okay, And what does not now mean? 00:03:20 Speaker 2: It means that you're lost in like time and space, like floating in space. 00:03:25 Speaker 3: And I'm just bumping the planets. 00:03:26 Speaker 2: So I'll see what time it is and I'll be like, oh, I must leave the house in ten minutes in order to get there on time. Next thing I know, I'm getting in the car and I look at the clock and it's been twenty minutes. I'm like, what was I doing? Where was I? I thought I had ten minutes worth of things to do on the way to the car. Twenty I guess who knows this? 00:03:47 Speaker 3: This actually kind of sounds familiar to me to my own life, And. 00:03:51 Speaker 2: I can't wait to diagnose you. 00:03:53 Speaker 3: Here we go, I will say and I think the public at large. Nos, I've built my brand on being on time. I'm very punctual. I'm always hare a person to anything, maybe to my detriment really, But more recently I've started noticing some slipping, especially when I'll be like I need to be there in a half hour and then I have I'll map it on my phone. It'll be like twenty minutes away, and then I'll say, well, i've got two to three minutes. I can hang out for a minute, and then suddenly I'm in my car and I'm going to be ten minutes late. 00:04:24 Speaker 2: Is it an LA thing? It might be, because for LA was a huge adjustment for me. Well, New York was too, like, yeah, New York was. I lived there for eight years and then I've lived here I guess nine years now. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: Right, Oh god. 00:04:41 Speaker 2: I'm middle aged now, but I was. Yeah, So it was like a huge adjustment because there's just so much factoring in of travel to get anywhere. And then LA added this whole other thing of like you're at the building, but how do you get in the building. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: Oh, I dealt it with that. Today I had circle of block looking forward and then looking at a map over and over trying to identify building shapes. 00:05:05 Speaker 2: Yes, and like where's the parking if there is any parking? Uh, it's it's crazy. So it's just like there's another ten minutes and you're just like oh no, no, and even oh my god. Just yesterday I was trying to be on a zoom at three o'clock. I pull into the driveway right so the stairs open, my laptop. It's like taking its time, click on the zoom link and then it's like installing a new. 00:05:36 Speaker 3: The new zoom. It was good, it was perfect, like a year and a half ago. Just leave it as is, please, yes. 00:05:42 Speaker 2: And meanwhile I'm getting an email being like I'm waiting for you, and I'm like. 00:05:46 Speaker 3: Who's this cruel person? 00:05:49 Speaker 2: Horrible horrible wench my therapist now, but yeah, it was, it's terrible. Yeah, lateness. 00:05:58 Speaker 3: I think maybe part of it is pandemic, where we all forgot how to travel places or takeet places at a specific timeme is different now right time is our brains have absolutely been warped. No one really knows how to operate in any way anymore. I'm really just making excuses for myself or what happened to day. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: I'm glad we had this conversation, this very. 00:06:20 Speaker 3: Long absolved me of any guilt. Yeah, now I can start blaming others again. And that's where that's kind of my wheelhouse pointing fingers, yes, making people feel less than Yeah, I. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: Had a reason to be embarrassed today too. 00:06:35 Speaker 3: I know you I got here in the middle of my apology. You said I'm pregnant. But you didn't just say I'm pregnant. You said I'm embarrassed I'm. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: Pregnant because I don't. Okay, I know I've seen you since then, have we Probably at a party or something maybe, But the most time we've ever spent together is when I met with you and and directed a short film that you made with my good friend Lang and Kingsley, and I spent you know, a couple of days with you, and I was eight months pregnant. 00:07:11 Speaker 3: You were so unbelievably pregnant. 00:07:13 Speaker 2: And that was like four years ago, exactly now. And then I was getting dressed to come here and I was like, oh, I'm pregnant again. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: It was like you've realized this morning. 00:07:24 Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I was like, he's gonna be shocked. I was like, it's gonna be so weird. I'm so embarrassed. I'm yeah and knocked up, like breeder. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: This is your second child. It is my second child seven months into the pregnancy. Yes, yeah, and it's a girl. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: It's a girl. Yeah? 00:07:43 Speaker 3: And are you This is something that's interesting to me about pregnancies, people not sharing the name until the baby's born. Are you one? 00:07:52 Speaker 2: Well? 00:07:53 Speaker 3: Was there anyone who shares the name before the baby's born? 00:07:55 Speaker 2: Yes? And in fact, it has been me. I think I might draw the line at saying. 00:08:00 Speaker 3: It right right, that's fully under. I'll ask you off because I. 00:08:05 Speaker 2: Really have just been like telling everyone, and I do see the shock in people's eyes. They're like, do you have a name? I'm like yes, and it's this. 00:08:13 Speaker 3: They're like no, one's prepared. 00:08:15 Speaker 2: Yes, They're like, what have you done? Like it seems like weird to them, and I'm like yeah. The thing with Jonah, my first child, was that we had this name picked the whole time and we weren't telling people. And a couple people we told, we were like, we haven't settled, and then it got to the end and we were like, we don't like any other names. 00:08:34 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 00:08:35 Speaker 2: Like, yes, that's his name? 00:08:36 Speaker 3: What are we waiting for me? 00:08:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this time it's the same. It's like we've had this name for years now. 00:08:41 Speaker 3: Honestly, wow, yeah, pre Jonah. 00:08:43 Speaker 2: Pre Jonah, even because we were like ready to have a girl. Then okay he came along. 00:08:49 Speaker 3: Okay, I had to make a last minute decision. 00:08:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was arduous. It was like, holy shit, every boy name is terrible. They're all bad people. I don't know. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: Why Bridger was already taken. That was unfortunately. 00:09:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bridger Bridges rare. 00:09:13 Speaker 3: It's a very rare name. Yeah, very rare. 00:09:15 Speaker 2: Here were you born? Are you an early eighties chime? 00:09:18 Speaker 3: I'm in like mid eighties? Okay, so it's like everyone I know that's well, Actually I don't know any Bridgers, like the Bridges i'm aware of. Are there's some maybe, like one in the world who's much younger than I am, Oh, much younger. Yeah, I don't know any. There are no dinosaurs like an old man, like is it a family man. The only Bridger I know prior to my birth was a mountain man named Jim Bridger, who's I guess my name's sake, but that's last name, last. 00:09:46 Speaker 2: Name, and that's yeah, that's more of a interesting. Your parents are pretty. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: Cool, yeah, very cool, yes, yes, absolutely cool. Yeah, very very hip. Very My other siblings have fairly normal names. Oh really yeah, so Bridger. I don't know what the left turn was. 00:10:09 Speaker 2: I do like that, though. I do like being like, this is the last name of a mountain man, I would like to use it for my son. I like it. 00:10:19 Speaker 3: I do like I feel like last names are a pretty rich territory for first names. Now, definitely, I can't name a single one. But sometimes someone will be like, this is my kid's name, and I'm like, oh, it's a good name name and his maternal grandparents last name or whatever, and it usually works. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. Jonah's middle name is Wolf, which is apparently it's based off of my mother in law's last name, which is Farcas, which is Hungarian for wolf. 00:10:50 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:10:51 Speaker 2: Yes. And then also my husband has a grandfather or a great grandfather named. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: Wolf, so it's not just a wolf, just not like. 00:10:59 Speaker 2: A random la anomal Yeah, no, it's not that. 00:11:05 Speaker 3: No, like naming babies for you, how like, how does that discussion go? 00:11:10 Speaker 2: Oh God, I don't know. It's always I mean, it's like any other big decision we've made where we're like, I don't know, you know. It's it's like we had discussions about getting married which were kind of like I guess, so you know, like so it's not like it's not like I've come to the table with like cards and I'm like this one, this one and this one, and I want you to point to the one. 00:11:34 Speaker 3: You know. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: It's not very well set up. It's just sort of like, yeah, I like this name. What do you think? I don't know? 00:11:43 Speaker 3: And is there any like research done? Is there any googling to make sure there was no like, oh god, terrible. Yeah. 00:11:51 Speaker 2: I didn't do that with Jonah And like people were like, oh, like Jonah Hill, and I was like, no, no, it's not no. 00:12:00 Speaker 3: That would be so crazy if you were like, yeah. 00:12:02 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Joe absolutely after Jonah Hill. 00:12:04 Speaker 3: We're naming the next one Seth broke. 00:12:06 Speaker 2: Yes. My favorite movie was Super Bad, so like my favorite actor. 00:12:09 Speaker 3: Is Jonah Hill. So yeah, do you look at books or anything? 00:12:17 Speaker 2: There was there's like these new little apps that are like dating apps that you and your partner are on together and you're each on your own phone swiping away the names, swiping the names you do and then it sort of adds it to like it's a match. This is also a name your partner picked. So that was how we got to like a short list of names. 00:12:38 Speaker 3: Okay, fascinating it was. 00:12:40 Speaker 2: It was kind of good though, but I think we just bought the light free version, so it was a limited number. 00:12:47 Speaker 3: Of a lot of ads about giving people makeover. 00:12:49 Speaker 2: Yes, so many stupid games where like a king is about to be burnt by love. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: Get him his gold coins, or he dies. 00:12:57 Speaker 2: Or he dies from lava, or like a baby fish like memo, babyfish is about to be burnt by love. Why do they torturing with these games buying them? I don't know. 00:13:10 Speaker 3: I think those are all accident and well. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: And also those games i've heard are not the real gameplay of the game they're advertising for. What is that like they're showing you like a fake version of it. Have you seen those game advertisements that are like a woman and her grandma, and her grandma did something weird, like she her grandma like burnt the house down and then got arrested, and it's all an ad for this game that's like about fixing up rooms in an old house that's burnt down. 00:13:41 Speaker 3: I'm not familiar. I'm it's so hard the second half of that, but the first part that sounds like you're going to sue your grandma or something. 00:13:49 Speaker 2: It's not familiar, and it's none of it. None of the game is like that. And I'm like, it would be cool if there was a game where it's like a mystery and why did my grandma burn the house down? But that's not what it is. It's like you having to play little weird versions of Candy Crush in order to get enough points to make a room look nice. 00:14:06 Speaker 3: Okay, now this is I have a friend who's actually kind of addicted to one of Yes. 00:14:10 Speaker 2: I tried it for a minute because I deleted Candy Crush off my phone, and then I was like, this is the same thing. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: Oh no, but it's like Candy Crush with like a decorating element. So the addiction leads into a purchasing, which leads to a purchase yes, which. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: Is all yes, yes, which I've never actually given any money to these apps. Thank god. 00:14:30 Speaker 3: My friend gate. I think her husband now like for her birthday, gave her. I mean, you don't speak about it in a way that's like is this one? But I think he gave her like one hundred dollars in the Oh how butterfly candies or whatever you're talking about. 00:14:44 Speaker 2: Oh cute, that's a good idea for a present. 00:14:48 Speaker 3: Given to this insidious gaming organization. Yes, essentially just gambling. Yeah. 00:14:54 Speaker 2: I think it was when I realized I'd been playing Candy Crush for ten years that I deleted. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: Was it the anniversary of or was it getting there? 00:15:03 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh shit. And it was the same with Twitter. I deleted Twitter around when I was like, oh my god, ten years, Like I. 00:15:11 Speaker 3: Let this stop sucking my life away. 00:15:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: I've never played Candy Crush to this day. 00:15:16 Speaker 2: Good. 00:15:16 Speaker 3: I don't know how I escaped it. 00:15:17 Speaker 2: It's a certain kind of brain is attracted to it, I think, And it's just it kills us. It really does jes the South and spits us out. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: There was Angry Birds and Candy Crush. Candy Crush seems like I had more legs. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: Yes, Angry Birds was immediately frustrating to me, so I gave it up. 00:15:35 Speaker 3: Right. I feel like I played. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: And there's candy imagery. 00:15:41 Speaker 3: It has that nice alliteration just in the name, just that crunchy sound. Yes, but they never got me. They never will. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: Do you play any games on your phone? 00:15:51 Speaker 3: I don't play any games on my phone. I've been talking probably too much on this podcast about how I've become addicted to Tetris on my PlayStation. Oh gotcha? 00:15:59 Speaker 2: Do you do one of those? I know that they have this on the switch where you play Tetris against a bunch of people. 00:16:05 Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, I have not. That's called like Tetris ninety nine or something that seems too that seems like a lot of chaos. 00:16:12 Speaker 2: I don't like it. And it's so funny because as a kid playing Tetris, I definitely fantasized about playing against people and being very good. 00:16:21 Speaker 3: You know, that was your one life dreams. 00:16:24 Speaker 2: But the second I got in the ring with that, I was like, oh no, no, no, are you just crumple? 00:16:29 Speaker 3: Are you playing against a huge group of people all at once? 00:16:31 Speaker 2: It's like people from all over the world that have all entered the game, and it's terrible. 00:16:37 Speaker 3: The Olympics of Tetris. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: Don't like it. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: No, I need to just play against myself because I'm not good. Yes, be alone and I don't better. Yeah, and that's fine. 00:16:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm a Tetris person too. 00:16:48 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, a friend after I started talking about this on the podcast, messaged me and said that apparently they're and now I'm really going to misremember she told me. But basically that Tetris can help undo trauma. 00:17:04 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, that's obviously just science. But what I just said was not perfect, and. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: I really would like to hear what the deal is with that. 00:17:15 Speaker 3: But to me, Tetris can become very stressful. 00:17:19 Speaker 2: It can, but but I don't think in the way that trauma is stressed. 00:17:23 Speaker 3: Well, unless your trauma's Tetris based, yeah, which then that's a real trick. 00:17:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. It's uh yeah, how could it be Tetris? I guess you could be playing Tetris and something terrible that. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: Grandma burned down the house. 00:17:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind but maybe there's something with how your brain gets into a certain state while you're playing Tetris, and that's how the healing can be. 00:17:43 Speaker 3: Oh maybe like a flow state. 00:17:45 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, where like a doctor's then asking you to think about these things while you're. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: Playing, right, Yeah, that makes kind of. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: Let's make it up instead of learning. 00:17:55 Speaker 3: I refuse to learn I'm I've learned enough and from now on, I'm just going to create my own learning, my little world good and in my world this kind of quasiti fact about Tetris rules supreme. 00:18:07 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:18:09 Speaker 3: Well, Kelly, Well look, I apologize a lot at the beginning of this podcast. I am a lot of sories. But we got past that, and I mean I was sorry in some ways. But I did come rushing into my backyard twenty minutes ago or so and saw you with my producer on alease. Yeah, and you had with you an item. Look, this podcast is called I said no gifts, right, You and I agreed to record this a thousand years ago, and there's been kind of a game of cat and mouse ever since. But I thought that drama was over. Yes, So I was a little surprised when I again come, you know, absolutely concerned for your well being, for on a Lise's well being, the wellbeing of the listener, and the professionalism of the podcast. I'm running into the backyard and I see you with what is obviously there's no dancing around this a bag, A gift bag that says a huge gift. It's enormous. It's probably a foot and a half tall. Yes, and in huge letters Happy birthday. 00:19:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's yes. I did bring a bag that has like a cartoonish comic style explosion of the words happy birthday. It's a really big bag. And I'm sorry. It's my turn to apologize. Are we supposed we're supposed to apologie? 00:19:38 Speaker 3: This is kind of the apology hour. 00:19:40 Speaker 2: Invite to apologize. 00:19:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, apology accepted. Should I open it here on the show? 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Yes? I think that's what you're supposed to be doing. 00:19:52 Speaker 4: But yes, okay, I'm gonna lift it up, okay, put it on the old lap, okay, and we're going to reach into this bag. 00:20:16 Speaker 3: It's a very deep. 00:20:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting it all compared to the bag. 00:20:21 Speaker 3: We're getting some little. 00:20:24 Speaker 2: Bit of tissue just to cover it up so you can't see it immediately when you look in the bag. 00:20:28 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet. 00:20:29 Speaker 2: Hm. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm grabbing a skinny or it's it's definitely a box. It's a box. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, just grab Yeah, there you go. I just didn't want it to open. 00:20:37 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:20:39 Speaker 2: I don't know if you celebrate, but it is a one thousand piece Christmas pocle. This is beautiful, isn't it gorgeous? Where did this come? 00:20:49 Speaker 3: Listener? What we're looking at here is a gorgeous Christmas coat. Very I mean the word that comes to mind is cozy. Yes, I mean cozy to a thousand image, kind of kincaid ass image of a Christmas village? Is it Buffalo, New York? There's the word Buffalo. Isn't a puzzle piece? 00:21:09 Speaker 2: I think is the puzzle company Buffalo Games and Puzzles. 00:21:12 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, so okay, but we could assume this is Buffalo, New York. Give it a little more that it's a Teddy red Land Terry Terry Redland just learning to read America's. 00:21:26 Speaker 2: Most popular artist in quotes at the top. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: He's kind of the Danielle Steele of puzzles. I guess so. I think she's like the most popular. Every one of her novels is like, yes, history's best selling novelist or something. So Terry Redland is America's most popular artist, and that's so much a fact that it's been trademarked. Yeah, how do you what is the metric of most popular artists? 00:21:52 Speaker 2: I don't know. I was shocked to read that. I didn't. I didn't like it, never made it, never processed until I ded it again earlier and I was like, oh my god, oh my god. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: Well, I will say one thing about art and artist is you know someone's good when they have a trademark, absolutely registered trademark slogan M Yeah. And Terry also this is called the title of the piece, is trimming the tree trademark. This has also been yes, yes, this person is has a pack of lawyers. 00:22:25 Speaker 2: That's right, trimming the Nope, No, trimming the tree belongs to this puzzle title. You can't talk about trimming the tree at home. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: That phrase at home, you're going to get sued by the. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: Regular excuse me for Christmas Eve. 00:22:41 Speaker 3: Parents are being dragged out. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: Mommy, Yes, and there it is. 00:22:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, trimming the tree. That means and this is going to show a real ignorance on my part. That means you're decorating the. 00:22:55 Speaker 2: Tree, I believe. So trimming the tree means you're like draping garlands, hanging ornaments, putting lights. I don't know why it's called trimming. 00:23:04 Speaker 3: I think the reason that word it's fallen out of vogue is because Terry got his legal pause all over it, and we've all forgotten what Because we all now associate trimming with a trip to super cuts. Yes, you know, a little off the top, that sort of thing, And so we think, oh, you're cutting the tree, but it's actually the popcorn. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: Yes, the popcorn on the string. 00:23:24 Speaker 3: The popcorn on the string is such an invitation for rodents. Yes, it was like. 00:23:28 Speaker 2: Got in your home. Weren't already an invitation to rod it? 00:23:33 Speaker 3: I know, I was just swarming with rats and ants. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've never been one to put food on the tree. I think my mom did hang candy canes. 00:23:45 Speaker 3: Okay, my mom did too, Yeah, which. 00:23:46 Speaker 2: Could get messy. I feel like there were a few times where I'd get a candy cane, eat half of it, the like unwrapped thing, maybe even put it back in the tree. 00:23:57 Speaker 3: Your house is as sticky as a bus station, exactly. I would say candy canes are a horrible tree decoration because they wait, they are constantly slipping off. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: They are that's right. They need like some ridges or something to stay put. 00:24:12 Speaker 3: They make no sense as a decoration on a tree. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: What is the deal with a candy cane? Why is it a cane? 00:24:19 Speaker 3: Does it have something to do with the Nativity scene? Is it like one of the shepherd. 00:24:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's like, yeah, the shepherd's the the thing that you yank the lamb. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: Is performer off the stage with. 00:24:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, bad performer or a lamb. 00:24:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like imagining the Nativity scene there's a terrible comedian on stage, or like we're about to experience the birth. Get this guy off. He's gone way over his time. Yes, they drag him off the stage and then Christmas is born. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:24:48 Speaker 3: Do decorate trees now? 00:24:49 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I just decorated my first adult tree last year. 00:24:54 Speaker 3: Actually, how was that experience? 00:24:56 Speaker 2: This was fine. I got a small tree, I put one string of lights, and then I realized our collection of ornaments amounts to three ornaments. So I put those on and that was it. 00:25:08 Speaker 3: You didn't go buy more? 00:25:09 Speaker 2: I didn't know, not yet. I'm like I try. I was like, I'm going to decorate for Christmas. And then I bought a wreath and a tree and I was done. And I was like maybe this year, though, that we've moved into a bigger house, it really invites a full tree, right. 00:25:24 Speaker 3: You have that space that's begging for it, Yes. 00:25:27 Speaker 2: That window that begs for a tree to be displayed in it. So robbers and exactly, we might even decorate the outside. 00:25:35 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's really going on. 00:25:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: My boyfriend is very pro decorating, loves a tree. I essentially could just careless. I'm such a joyless person. What am I doing? 00:25:49 Speaker 2: Do you like Christmas? Though? 00:25:50 Speaker 3: I think it's nice? Okay, I think I have nice memories of it. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you liked Christmas as a kid. 00:25:57 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it okay. Yeah. I loved the idea of coming good. 00:26:02 Speaker 2: Something happened and everyone can relate to this. But it was like, oh Christmas, it brings me no joy suddenly, and I was like, I don't know when that was. I was still excited. I feel like when I was like eighteen, running home and being like presents, but then like, yeah, it slowly faded away, especially as I was like, you know, learning about capitalism, of. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Course, and also being just being like, well, I own everything I need, Yes, exactly, I want something, I've purchased it. 00:26:34 Speaker 2: Yes, I was poor. I knew how much money was in my account at all times. Getting a bunch of useless shit every year was like what are we doing? But truly, having a child is a rediscovery of all the things that were fun about. 00:26:52 Speaker 3: Being a kid, right, that's having a niece. Forgot about that. 00:26:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's pretty cool. It's it's exciting. Like I just sighted early on that I'm not going to go into the full lie of Santa. But I hope that no children are hearing this right now. 00:27:07 Speaker 3: But I have a lar. I mean, kindergarteners make up about half of the auducts, so good, very careful. 00:27:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I was just deciding. I was just like, it's so weird to lie fully right to just from start to finish, be like, and this is what happened next, and I know this for a fact. You know, it's too scary. So basically my plan is I hear Santa's coming or so I've been told, you know, something like that. 00:27:38 Speaker 3: But that's still lying the court of law. You just want to be have your hands clean. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: Enough exactly exactly. He was like, did all these things am I stocking are from Santa? And I was like maybe, So it's like, no, this is a lie because I did put those things in the stock. It's like it's so hard. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's got to be a lot of conflict there. I have two friends who have made their plan or what they do is all of the good gifts come from them and then Santa brings like a bag of candy. So for them, that's largely about getting the credit. 00:28:14 Speaker 2: Because around Santa got a lot of fucking right. 00:28:19 Speaker 3: My parents are getting you know, all of my garbage. Yes, and then meanwhile I'm you know, idolizing this guy. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: That that was a real wake up call for me, is like, what are parents doing giving away credit to this fucking loser. 00:28:36 Speaker 3: It's a complete loser. I think we can say it at this point. It hundreds of years of taking hard working parents credit, eat disgusting, what kind of dragging himself around them? 00:28:47 Speaker 2: All? 00:28:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think that. I mean, this is why I'm not having children. The one reason I guess I'm now saying I don't want to talk. I don't want the conflict of Santa Cloum's. 00:28:58 Speaker 2: It is a conflict. There are many ConfL raising a child. 00:29:01 Speaker 3: I will what's number two? 00:29:04 Speaker 2: Number two? Well, for me, it was God whether or not to circumcise my soul. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a huge one. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: That was huge. That's number one. 00:29:15 Speaker 3: Actually circumstance, Now what was that? I mean, we can talk about it or not, we can No. 00:29:25 Speaker 2: I did a whole episode of my podcast about it. 00:29:27 Speaker 3: You did what where did you end up? 00:29:29 Speaker 2: I ended up And I don't mean to offend anyone here, but I ended up realizing that it was u mutilation of genital Sure. 00:29:40 Speaker 3: I mean that's not an argument for no reason, right, it does seem kind like a random yeah. 00:29:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've even even just like, you know, it's mentioned in the Bible constantly, but and like and it's still like my husband, there's so many podcasts in my world right now, but my husband has a podcast called Bible Brother. Oh you have right, Yeah, so they're reading the Bible from start to finish. It's like, oh, we're finally going to find out what this circumcision thing is, Like we'll do some real research, and like it's brought up a lot and there's never a reason. It's just it's just some silly command. So yeah, there's no clear reason. It's something about differentiating yourself. I'm sure it was a tribal thing at the time. 00:30:26 Speaker 3: That makes that, like logically historically maybe the most sense of where that. 00:30:31 Speaker 2: Because there's i mean there's other genital mutilation and other tribes around the world, and it's all it's all tribal related, it's coming of age or whatever. I realized I'm not in that tribe at all. I mean, my husband is ninety six percent Jewish Ashkenazi Jewish. 00:30:50 Speaker 3: But he didn't. He was cool with it. 00:30:53 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, we had a chat. We had a few chats. He was definitely like but and then he was like. 00:30:58 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, there's another app for that where you will wipe your opinions on circumcisions exactly. 00:31:04 Speaker 2: We don't talk, we don't talk. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: Avoid communication with your partner on at all costs. 00:31:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that was the conclusion we came to. But I often, I obviously have to remain strictly in this camp of everyone. Every parent makes their own decision, and I know it's a very hard decision, but ultimately I want to leave it up to my kid. We'll talk about it when he's like big enough, you know, right consenting. 00:31:30 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a I mean fascinating adult experience. I imagine for someone I can't speak to that. I have a friend that just did it, and was it what was the what was their feeling? 00:31:41 Speaker 2: He was like, he'd always kind of fetishized it and there was no like, I don't think any health need for it. But he was like, I'm just always wanted one. And he's from the UK, so he was like, I just they's so whatever. He liked them, and so he got one and he loves it, and I'm like, good for you. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: I would you know, the surgery of it all seems yeah. 00:32:09 Speaker 2: You gotta take a little time off and maybe you spend a couple days in a wheelchair and you're good. 00:32:14 Speaker 3: You're good. I wonder what Terry Redland thinks of circumcision. I think he's probably pro, probably probably pro. I mean, I can't speak for Terry. We don't know if he's alive or dead, or if it's a he or she. Is very mysterious. There's a little, very little information about Terry popular artist. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: Definitely sounds like a man's doing. 00:32:33 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, a trademarking, and it can only be a straight man. 00:32:39 Speaker 2: But I will say, this puzzle has been you. 00:32:43 Speaker 3: So you put it together. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: This is yeah, And I know this in this puzzle intimately because I've put it together and I've studied every inch of it. 00:32:50 Speaker 3: How long did it take you to put together? 00:32:52 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing we always get a puzzle for like I get together with my family for a few days and like an airbnb around Chris Smith, so like three to five days. And it was my idea to get a puzzle the first time. And everyone was like, what are we gonna need with a puzzle? 00:33:09 Speaker 3: You loser? 00:33:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I brought it and everyone was into the puzzle. Everyone was addicted to the puzzle, and I knew it, and so we just it's kind of a race against time of like before we have to check out at the Serbnb, right, and we've only like succeeded in putting together like once. 00:33:27 Speaker 3: So and it was it this puzzle, this one we've never put together, I thouze. 00:33:32 Speaker 2: We tried, Yeah, we tried. 00:33:34 Speaker 3: How many pieces? Was the first one? 00:33:36 Speaker 2: The first one? Thousand? 00:33:37 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:33:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always a thousand? 00:33:40 Speaker 3: Now, am I? A puzzle loser is a thousand? Like, oh god, you usually do a thousand. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: Thousand is tough. A thousand is tough. But I feel like, I don't know, it's just my number. 00:33:50 Speaker 3: What was the picture on the original puzzle? 00:33:52 Speaker 2: It was another Christmas scene. Always a Christmas scene. We always get a new Christmas scene. We're gonna out eventually. 00:34:01 Speaker 3: I just recently learned, and I'm this is just going to be infuriating for the listener because I don't know the name. But it's like a There are these unbelievably intricate jigsaw puzzles made out of wood pieces. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen those. 00:34:13 Speaker 3: They're beautiful. 00:34:14 Speaker 2: Yes, I borrowed one from a friend and it was very fun to put together. 00:34:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems like a real luxuriate. I wish I could remember the name, but I guess you type in wooden puzzle pieces or something. It was like Patriot or something. I don't know. Certainly wasn't Buffalo. Apologies to Buffalo. During the pandemic. We did well. We only did one puzzle, but was that a way of passing time during pandemic? 00:34:39 Speaker 2: It was tough because okay, the pandemic was my dream At the beginning, I was like, this is exactly what I want to be doing. Is nothing in my home? But I had a one and a half year old. 00:34:52 Speaker 3: Oh right. Life sucked. 00:34:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know it was not fun for anyone, but it was really bad from start to finish. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: As the pandemic was worse for you. 00:35:06 Speaker 2: Yes me, no, I'm I'm it's it was like beautiful. You know, we had savings. We were like freaking out. You know, obviously we didn't have work for a long time and that was scary, but you know we were lucky. But yeah, the puzzle thing was like I would love it if that was my reality. And I figured out a way to have it away from him, because there's no way you do a puzzle around because my biggest fear is like losing one of these people. 00:35:36 Speaker 3: So then what's the point of it. Just throw it all out, throw it in the drash. 00:35:40 Speaker 2: So I I did it on like the kitchen island for like a while, and like I succeeded for a little bit. 00:35:48 Speaker 3: And then what happened? 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Then maybe I finished one or two. That was when I borrowed a wooden one. That was fun. And then but it was just me standing in the kitchen alone. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: It was helping. 00:36:00 Speaker 2: He didn't. He's not into it like the other's or like me, Yeah he's not. It was like I want to be doing that stuff like at night with friends, right, listening to some music. Right, it's having some tea or something. 00:36:15 Speaker 3: It's a nice passive thing you can do with your hands. Yeah, actually doing something exciting, right, But meanwhile you were kind of this stress nightmare in your kitchen. 00:36:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, after the child's gone to bed, standing alone in the kitchen doing a puzzle, my leg's getting tired. 00:36:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm okay at doing puzzles. I don't find a ton of joy in them, but it is you get to the Yeah, put it all together, and it's an exciting. 00:36:39 Speaker 2: Face Like it's one of the very few things in life that are I'm good at. So like I'll find pieces quickly and be like, I'm good at something. This is wonderful. 00:36:52 Speaker 3: I wonder where that inate ability comes from, Like, what like physical thing do you have that makes you good at that? Is your eyesight or what I mean? I think that's kind of the only thing that I don't know. 00:37:03 Speaker 2: I think it again, might be some ADHD thing, probably some some like part of my brain that's over active or undirective that makes it fun and easy. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I can say if I'm good or bad. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't enjoy your probably probably. 00:37:21 Speaker 3: Or probably so good that it brings me no choice, is just so bad. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: You're speeding through it. Done, done, done, done. The piece has gone to place. 00:37:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I got one of those photos you know where you get your it's custom. We got like a of our dog and put it together and that was very fun. 00:37:41 Speaker 2: Oh a custom puzzle, gotcha, right. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: But I mean, as I'm not a puzzle maker, I kind of chose a photo that had just a ton of the same color, oh, which made it that's kind of a huey pain. Those are so tough, right, whereas with like a trimming the tree, for example, we've got different textures color. 00:38:00 Speaker 2: I remember this was a fun thing doing this, like blanket that's on the back of this sleigh, because you're like, oh, the stripes of the blanket, the tree pieces were all together, the fences. 00:38:11 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you have the bricific fond memories like oh. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: This windows a little different than that one. 00:38:17 Speaker 3: Folk's coming out of the tree. Yeah. 00:38:19 Speaker 2: So which chimney is it though, the little metal one or the brick one. Yeah, there's lots of fun, lots of fun. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I wonder when my life is going to get to a place where I'm putting this together. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the mood to unpack the Christmas buzzle. 00:38:35 Speaker 3: Do you know if all thousand pieces are in here or is this some sort of disgusting. 00:38:38 Speaker 2: Trick must be? I hope to god, I hope there's no guarantee though, because I just moved. 00:38:45 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, and you were kind of loosely throwing this around. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, tossing it from person to person. 00:38:52 Speaker 3: And what was the moving experience like for you? 00:38:55 Speaker 2: Oh god, well, I'm pregnant, so like everyone's like, don't lift it. The drinking, yeah, but it's tough for me, Like I'm lifting some things, probably some things I shouldn't, but like, also, okay, so moving day, we hired movers, they're moving everything in. I'm like, I gotta start unpacking because what I did this time is I got those reusable boxes that you can rent. Have you heard of Fantastic They're they're plastic and they like latch shut and they I got fifty of them, so they like unload our house. You pack them up, then you unload them. But I had like three days to get them on packed before they were gonna be picked up to pay for another fucking week. Yeah, So I was like, oh god, So I was unpacking the kitchen frantically, like the day we moved, and something. At some point my body was like, if you bend over one more time, you're gonna fucking puke. And so my whole body became like a cup of puke that if I tipped at it in any direction, I would throw. 00:40:10 Speaker 3: This top. 00:40:11 Speaker 2: It was like, it's this top sphincter that becomes under stress. Whenever it's like, yeah, there's like uterus pressing against everything. So it was just I started to get really nauseous and I had to sit perfectly still for a while and drink water and you just have to take breaks. It's really fucking weird. 00:40:31 Speaker 3: But meanwhile, but you were able to get it done in the time span. Yeah, we've got a nice incentive to get things out. 00:40:37 Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like either I found a quick remedy that was put the box up on something or be sitting down. 00:40:45 Speaker 3: Oh right, there are other ways to get things out of a box that has been bending over and over. 00:40:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, over and over hundreds of times. 00:40:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's an interesting service. I don't know where. I'm sure there's some horrible ecological thing it's going to lead to, but yeah, it does make plastic. 00:41:01 Speaker 2: Is infusing all my belongings now, which is terrible. 00:41:05 Speaker 3: I've got to look into that if I ever move again. 00:41:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should. I think environmentally it's the right thing to do, and it's also just like one less thing to worry about, right right, Yeah? 00:41:14 Speaker 3: And are you the sort of person when you go on a vacation when you get home, do you unpack your bag immediately? 00:41:19 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. My husband frantically unpacks the second weekend. 00:41:23 Speaker 3: I'm on side, you're. 00:41:25 Speaker 2: Him, You're dan, Yeah, I'm I'm just like, it'll go h It's embarrassing, it'll It'll go weeks sometimes and I'm like living out of the suitcase fulling clothes out of it, being like, well, this is still clean, you know. And sometimes some trips are better than others though, where I'm just like, oh, I all of this is dirty. It's going in the hamper. Of course, I need my toiletries, so I'm taking those. 00:41:55 Speaker 3: Out right right. I Mean, I think my secret is I just accept or I just myself everything in there is dirty and it can all just go in the laundry, right Yeah. I don't think of it as clean clothing. I just think that it all has to go through the wall of it, regardless of whether I. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: Suitcase is disgusting or the place you were is discussed. 00:42:12 Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, I don't think there's any real logic to it. I think it's probably some secret trick my brain is doing. It's just like laziness. And then it just becomes another problem that. 00:42:22 Speaker 2: I have to deal with. 00:42:23 Speaker 3: But at least the suitcase gets unpacked. 00:42:25 Speaker 2: Right, which is great, good for you. 00:42:27 Speaker 3: But then meanwhile, my boyfriend's suitcase is sitting there for at least a week. 00:42:31 Speaker 2: And yeah, isn't it funny how we're all paired, all of us opposites are paired with each other. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: We're all I mean going. Terry knows best, Terry Redland the puzzle master. He knows about putting pieces together. He does, he would know, he would. 00:42:48 Speaker 2: Terry Redland gives a shit about puzzles, and Terry's over He's like, I just want my art. 00:42:56 Speaker 3: Oh, I forget that Terry's a puzzle maker. Buffalo Buffalo is the Santa Claus in this scenario. I'm giving all the credit to Buffalo. Yeah, Terry's the Santa Claus. I suppose so, Terry, my apologies, You're an excellent artist trademark, and Buffalo is kind of the puzzle master in the situation. 00:43:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Buffalo was like, Terry, do you want to get in on this? We noticed your America's most popular artist. We'd love to say that on our backs. 00:43:27 Speaker 3: Who's America's second most popular artist? 00:43:29 Speaker 2: That's what I want to don't know? And is Buffalo involved with them? 00:43:33 Speaker 3: Right? I mean maybe my guess Thomas Kincaid was the most popular artist. Now did Terry swoops in Thomas Kincaid? 00:43:41 Speaker 2: What is that? 00:43:43 Speaker 3: Basically? Did this exact type of painting? Okay, kind of a cozy village scene. 00:43:49 Speaker 2: I'm looking to see if I can find a year on here, because I'm just trying. I was in my mind just now trying to picture the meeting between Buffalo Terry. 00:43:59 Speaker 3: Redlin sitting in Sorry, welcome to Buffalo. Can we get you a water at the end? 00:44:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, can we get you a bottle of water or anything like that? We have tiny waters and or you know I'm imagining is it was this a meeting that took place in the eighties. It's just how I imagined it. 00:44:15 Speaker 3: I'm imagining this took place in nineteen ninety four. 00:44:18 Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four, so no Curic yet, there's no Curig copy. It's more from a pot. 00:44:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a pot that's been sitting in the kitchen for six hours the Buffalo Puzzle Office, right, and there's like a bowl of mints dinner mints or yes thing, yeah, which I find revolting. 00:44:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, disgusting, But at that point in time, people were like putting their fingers in the yeah little pillows. 00:44:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's probably the reality of Terry. And again, we don't know if Terry's alive or dead. No one will ever know. 00:44:50 Speaker 2: No year listed. 00:44:51 Speaker 3: Harry will live forever, at least through this puzzle. 00:44:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:44:54 Speaker 3: I think we should play a game. Okay, let's it's been a minute I think since we played the game gift Master. So that's what we'll play, gift Master. I need a number between one and ten from you. Six. Okay, I have to do some light calculating. 00:45:07 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:45:08 Speaker 3: In the meantime, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. I don't care. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: Sure I would like to promote my podcast. 00:45:19 Speaker 3: This sucks. 00:45:19 Speaker 2: I really didn't want. 00:45:20 Speaker 3: To go and apologize. I'm giving the time. 00:45:22 Speaker 2: I was hoping I could recommend something useful. But I do have a podcast that's about sex and it's called What Are You Into? And I'm on a hiatus, but there are two years worth of episodes on there, and I think you guys would like it. If you're curious about sex, if you're curious about people that and they're things that they're into, I think you'll you'll like this podcast. I had a Dominatrix on once. That was fun. I had OnlyFans creators. I had, you know, we did a whole episode where we just talked about movies from our childhood. That turned us on. That's a great I talk about I think I've talked about being a horny child on that podcast so much and it comes up all the time that I'm like, it feels pedophilic to talk about a horny child, but it was about yourself exactly. I was like, and Devin saw what was so hot? I wanted to fuck him, and it's like, yeah, but he was a child, but I was a child. 00:46:27 Speaker 3: But I mean there's some emotional conflict there. 00:46:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, what are you into? 00:46:35 Speaker 3: Check it out? Go listen to that podcast was easier. Yeah, I mean it's. 00:46:39 Speaker 2: Did I ask you to be on the podcast? 00:46:41 Speaker 3: You that you hinted at it, but I think you knew that. I absolutely cannot comfortably talk about sex, at least publicly. 00:46:49 Speaker 2: I don't think Langan wanted to. 00:46:50 Speaker 3: Be Langan and I would both just be absolute crumphos. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: Oh I would love to have you both. It would delight me so to torture. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: It would be an hour of you talking and us doing very curaging day. I mean, I'm not proud of that, yeah, but I mean there's just a lot of years of unpacking total. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: Yes, what's been done to us all, Like sex is just shame, territory, ridiculous for everyone. 00:47:21 Speaker 3: Right, I mean maybe maybe I throw myself onto the podcast, but I'm not going even now. 00:47:26 Speaker 2: Yes, I would love that even now. Like I think I told uh my sons in preschool and like his best friend's mom, I was like, yeah, I have a sex podcast. She was like, oh really, and I was like, oh my god, this is terrible. Like I'm basically a porn actor to these people. They're just like fucking crazy. 00:47:49 Speaker 3: And again, nothing wrong with those people exactly, but it's all we're just the shame is beaten into us. Yeah, yes, real wild people. Was my apologies to everyone. Let's be I mean, I think we're all on the same page as we should be more comfortable, but absolutely, But then again, it's impossible to be. It's really hard because the Puritans. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Exactly if the Puritans started our. 00:48:14 Speaker 3: God into this country and made us all feel bad about everything forever. Let's play gift Master. Okay, this is how it works. I'm gonna name three potential gifts, three items, experience is what have you? And then I'm gonna name three celebrities. You can tell me which celebrity. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: This is the game from the episode that I listened to. Played listened to Brandon Scott Jones because he's a friend of mine and I miss him and I haven't seen him in a long time. 00:48:38 Speaker 3: Brandon, you better be listening to this episode. 00:48:40 Speaker 2: It's nice to spend some time with him by your podcast. And this is the gaming played. 00:48:44 Speaker 3: And that episode is great if the listener hasn't heard. 00:48:46 Speaker 2: It, especially this game. 00:48:49 Speaker 3: He played it with like a kind of a frightening skill level. Yes, but he. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: Thought about everything so quickly and so well, yeah. 00:48:58 Speaker 3: Well, let's see how you do. The three gifts are Number one, a gorgeous quilt, so just a beautiful quilt to picture that in your mind. Number two mind control. This person will be able to control minds and they'll be able to it for good or ill. Yes, you know. Number three is Avatar on DVD. So first something that you might find right, not the new one. This is two thousand and nine's Avatar on DVD. 00:49:26 Speaker 2: Mind control and a beautiful quilt. 00:49:28 Speaker 3: Okay, and you'll be giving them to the following people will scroll the dark okay. The three celebrities today are musician Beck. I think he's actually officially left scientology. Oh really clear to go. 00:49:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was something about like it was his wife the whole time or something. 00:49:46 Speaker 3: I think his dad was a scientologist, so I think he was one. He was raised in scientific what have you. But I think he's kind of and I don't want to speak for Beck disavowed the religion. 00:49:56 Speaker 2: Oh good. 00:49:57 Speaker 3: Number two Idris Elba we all love. There's also a DJ. I believe really pretty sure at least Moonlight is a DJ okay or was he just in a movie about being a DJ? 00:50:09 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know him speaking for. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: These celebrities in a huge way, ah, but speaking And now here's a why was this in the dock in the first place. The third celebrity is octomom. Oh my god, we haven't thought about Octomom in a while. No, is she alive or dead? 00:50:25 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like Octomom came up and recently in conversation, you're kidding, someone at like some party was like, oh, my dad worked as a something at the hospital that Octomom was at or something like he was a nurse sine maternity ward or something, and they were like, oh shit. 00:50:44 Speaker 3: This is the Octomom renaissance. 00:50:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, Octasong, he yourselva back and Octomom. So, we've got a beautiful quilt mind control? And what was the third one? 00:50:55 Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, correction, A gorgeous quilt. A gorgeous So I think there's something difference between a beautiful quilt and a gorgeous quilt to me, is different than a beautiful quill. 00:51:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, these just fell right. 00:51:08 Speaker 3: Oh. I'm very excited to hear. 00:51:10 Speaker 2: This because the second I heard that Beck had disavowed scientology, I thought about giving him mind control. But this is only hearsay and we have not confirmed this. I was like, Beck would be good to control arm. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: I would allow him to control my mind. 00:51:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like. 00:51:27 Speaker 3: He's still got pretty good taste for being on the scene this week. 00:51:29 Speaker 2: I might have to have a conversation beforehand. 00:51:32 Speaker 3: Right, like, this is the power I'm giving. Yeah, can you be trusted? Yes, yes, You're not going to suddenly be teaming up with the Miscavie. 00:51:40 Speaker 2: What from me, though? 00:51:42 Speaker 3: What? 00:51:43 Speaker 2: What would he want me to do or why? I don't see Beck as someone who wants power. 00:51:50 Speaker 3: He's kind of always leaning back and ready to accept things. I don't see him as kind of a puppeteer. 00:51:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Beck definitely accompanied me through beautiful and cripplingly depressing times in my life. I feel like Sea Change came out when I was in college and Olympia Washington. It was I feel like it was the winter when it came out, but I was. I was definitely listening to it a lot to winter, and the winter in Olympia, Washington is something. 00:52:18 Speaker 3: Else, folks. It is. 00:52:21 Speaker 2: Long, long, long, dark winter of the soul. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: You want some kind of sad folk music? 00:52:27 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:52:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Beck accompanied me through those things. I would love to cover him in a gorgeous quilt because he has been my gorgeous quilt. Yeah. 00:52:38 Speaker 3: Wait, so were you giving him the quilt or the mind control the quilt? 00:52:41 Speaker 2: The quilt okay, because honestly, I don't trust him with control. 00:52:46 Speaker 3: I don't see I associate Beck with his album Midnight Vultures, Oh, which is fund Oh. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny, it's sexy. 00:52:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's truly everything you could want from an oun. 00:52:57 Speaker 2: It's really good. I would listen to that a lot in high school, and I remember at the time being like, this is so cool. 00:53:06 Speaker 3: In Glendale that I've been to, which I mean for me is Glendale is. 00:53:12 Speaker 2: Yes, sego ticket. Those things were pointed out to me within the last year. I didn't realize that he had mentioned those things that are within my vicinity. 00:53:21 Speaker 3: That song DEBRAA is truly an all time favor. 00:53:23 Speaker 2: It's so good, so disrespectful but in the best. Yes, because like my main problem, Oh god, I shouldn't say this publicly. My if anyone is like, do you like hip hop or rap? And I'll say I have not been able to get into it because of the baseline sexism that has existed in so much of the genre, and a lot of disrespective women and all this stuff. But I and of course I've evolved from there. There's plenty of hip hop and rapt exactly, but that's is so gross but and misogynistic, but so funny and like aware of itself. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like obviously a weirdo going to Glendale. 00:54:08 Speaker 2: It's a character, yes, exactly, it's a character who wants to fuck this woman and her sister. 00:54:13 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, Deborah and her sister. I believe her name was Jenny. 00:54:18 Speaker 2: I believe that's right. Okay, great, Yeah, so beautiful gorgeous. 00:54:24 Speaker 3: Blanket, right, quilt quilt? 00:54:26 Speaker 2: I would hope it's handmade. 00:54:28 Speaker 3: A gorgeous quilt can only be handled. And you're not buying that a mason. 00:54:31 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 00:54:32 Speaker 3: You can get a decent quilt at any store made by machine. Sounds terrible, Right, My sister makes quilts and every one of them gorgeous, gorgeous. Yeah, okay, so Beck is getting it and he kind of is a quilter himself. Let's be honest with this music, Yes, honestly kind of stitching things together. 00:54:49 Speaker 2: The one that goes with that one, the most out of the. 00:54:51 Speaker 3: Three, makes perfect sense. 00:54:52 Speaker 2: And I don't want to pass judgment on Octimom, but I don't know about any cool things about. 00:55:01 Speaker 3: Her other than she released eight children, she held, she carried. 00:55:06 Speaker 2: I have immense respect for her like physical abilities. It's almost like athletes who I really have no connection to. Sadly, like, I'm just like, good job. I don't know what else to say. 00:55:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, Octomom, why do I associate her with kind of trash. 00:55:27 Speaker 2: Because it must have been there must have been something going on at the time, or it was just started like shitty sex culture being like, well, she's a whore. There's eight of them. 00:55:40 Speaker 3: I hope misunders people did not know how eight babies come. Yes, I imagine it's because like that time period I'm imagined. I think she was late aughts. It was like peak reality trash TV, and like everyone had a horrible I'm not speaking for Octomom. I should not have brought her up. This is her renaissance and now we're already trashing her again. She probably tried to, yes, she did right away. 00:56:13 Speaker 2: That like doing porn or doing Playboy is wonderful. Yes, But when I was a younger person, that kind of thing was like well immediate, like yeah, that was like that's permission to trash this person. But like, man, I I can't give her mind control. 00:56:37 Speaker 3: I mean, I will say mother of eight could probably use mind control. Yeah, she's got I mean, those kids are probably well. 00:56:44 Speaker 2: That's true, and she's not using it like me. 00:56:48 Speaker 3: Again, that's the trick with mind control. 00:56:50 Speaker 2: And that's the trick with these people that I don't know, eat your sel but either. But okay, we'll get to him in a second, but we have to give out Optimom the Avatar DVD. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it just it's just like a sat question. This is to that gorgeous quilled is to beck As Avatar DVD is. 00:57:15 Speaker 3: Too, ya Avatar? She is kind of that's like the exact period. I'm thinking, Yeah, it was around that time. It's kind of her era. That's when she was kind of reigning supreme. 00:57:27 Speaker 2: If I had to guess when that happened, I would guess yeah, late two thousand's right. So that's done. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: She's got her DVDs. You can put it on and all eight kids are mesmerized for four hours. 00:57:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's maybe she'll learn something from it. 00:57:43 Speaker 3: It has some kind of vague message about taking care of the planet. 00:57:48 Speaker 2: The planet, Yeah, and sex using tails. 00:57:52 Speaker 3: That were they tails or were they ponytails? 00:57:57 Speaker 2: I don't think they were attached to their heads, but I don't remember exactly. I just saw the trailer for Avatar two. 00:58:07 Speaker 3: Oh, I have not seen the trailer, magical. Are you looking forward to it? 00:58:12 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, okay, So I haven't been in the movies much in the last four years, honestly. I didn't go to the movie for some reason after Jonah was born and then the pandemic happened. So the first movie I saw in theaters was this recent The Batman. Oh sure, and I was like, blown away, you know, so good, the perfect film. I don't know if I would think that if I saw it, HBO mass but it was amazing in theaters. And then I just took Jonah and my son to Minions Too, of course. 00:58:42 Speaker 3: Real shift of tone. 00:58:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've been to a lot of kids movies lately, because what else are you going to do on a hot Sunday afternoon. And they did the Avatar too trailer at the beginning, and I was like, oo. 00:58:57 Speaker 3: Beautiful. You're like someone who had not seen movies six months. 00:59:00 Speaker 2: Ago, exactly, and I'm like, I'm impressed, Sigourney. We were not present in the trailers. 00:59:05 Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding. The only thing that would draw me. 00:59:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the guy that's in it. He's only in his avatar character. 00:59:11 Speaker 3: Now, oh facts. I mean, I don't remember how the movie ended up felt. I feel like people. 00:59:16 Speaker 2: Get trapped into that body for good or something. 00:59:18 Speaker 3: I just remember people like taking a nap on a tree. I don't know if that was in the middle of the if that it was even part of the movie. I remember that kind of a Grandmother Willow type president. 00:59:28 Speaker 2: Seeing his tiny limp body carried by an app like a big. 00:59:33 Speaker 3: Human body being carried by yes. 00:59:35 Speaker 2: Cat, yeah and yeah, I don't remember. 00:59:38 Speaker 3: And this was that guy who's kind of gonna be famous and then never really was. Yes, I don't remember. I remember his name. 00:59:46 Speaker 2: It really that whole movie reminds me so much of Pocahontas. Like I watched Pocahontas again recently, and I was like, oh my god, this is terrible. It's like the same shit with the complete with the tree that talks, you know. 00:59:58 Speaker 3: Like James Cameron just took Pocahontas interesting kind of. I never saw Pocahontas. I think I was just at the age I was like not really watching or going to theaters to see Disney movies anymore or something. 01:00:10 Speaker 2: Not it was. I watched it last time I was pregnant, and I sobbed and I was like also horrified. I was just like, this sucks. That should never have been made. I hate this so much. It's disgusting. But also it's like, well, part of this rings true to what happened, and that side is also terrible. 01:00:31 Speaker 3: Like but then it kind of I assume falls in love with the blonde guy. 01:00:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he leaves her behind though or something in the movie. I think so. 01:00:40 Speaker 3: I don't think he takes her to this With the reality of it, I think so. I don't know what the reality reality talking about here. The reality is way worse. 01:00:47 Speaker 2: Much more rape and disease. 01:00:49 Speaker 3: Right, reality, there was no like fun raccoon no, no, obviously, no talking free No. Yeah was that the name of the raccoon? 01:00:57 Speaker 2: And no, that was the guy that she rejected. 01:00:59 Speaker 3: Okay, did the raccoon have a name, darling? 01:01:03 Speaker 2: He must have. Okay, so let's move on. 01:01:06 Speaker 3: I got so far off. That was as long as Avatot mind control. 01:01:12 Speaker 2: Then I mean it goes to Idris, mostly because because of I guess it's hard to explain, but he is. 01:01:25 Speaker 3: Hot, he's so how is that hard to I mean, he's one of the hottest people alive. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: But why should a hot person get Because yes, I did watch Luther. I loved Luther. It made me trust that actor as a person, which is not a good idea. Whenever you meet well, I don't want to be mean, but a lot of actors it's like, wow, your personality is nothing, there's nothing there there. Yeah, if you're a blank canvas, you're a very good actor, right, you. 01:01:54 Speaker 3: Do your job very well. Yeah, it's the reason a surgeon is not a soccer player. 01:01:58 Speaker 2: Right, But I still want to give him my control. 01:02:01 Speaker 3: I trust, so I do. I feel like there's a he's a good guy. 01:02:05 Speaker 2: I haven't heard a drop of bad. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: Unbelievably good looking, so hot, it could be given to uglier people, So why not give it to Adris? 01:02:14 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you should have it because that's all I can come up is because he's hot. 01:02:19 Speaker 3: He was in Cats. I do trust him, right, I absolutely like one of the. 01:02:25 Speaker 2: Least despicable characters in that movie Cats. 01:02:27 Speaker 3: Right, right, right? I mean, I I remember very little about the film. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: I mean too, I just remember. No, it's what's facing experience, not Dakota Johnson what's that woman's name? 01:02:39 Speaker 3: You're asking the wrong person. I do not know celebrity names that female comedian, Oh, Rebel Wilson. Will I remember Rebel Wilson. I forgot that she was in the Yeah, she was real disorienting experience. That was kind of the goal I felt. 01:02:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, going into that movie, I was felt defensive because I spent my childhood loving the soundtrack so much, and everyone's like, this is crazy. I'm like, but yeah, didn't you see it though when we all saw it when it was the most popular musical. 01:03:09 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a bonkers thing. It is. 01:03:12 Speaker 2: It is, and it's so funny to see it presented to people like it's a new thing in a bad movie, and everyone's like. 01:03:19 Speaker 3: Wow, did you enjoy the movie at all? 01:03:23 Speaker 2: No, I really didn't. I was annoyed the whole time. A lot of being annoyed. 01:03:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is that was excellently played. That's essentially what I would have done too. I feel like you really nailed each one of those really lined up, And uh, I think it's time now for I Said no emails, the final okay segment of the podcast people write into I said no gifts at Gmail dot com desperate begging, I will say, sometimes pathetic. You know, these people are just clawing for answers. 01:03:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no one else in their life. I got no turn. 01:03:57 Speaker 3: To, absolutely no one, and I have so many social issue social problems they've got going to parties or getting gifts or giving gifts, and so I swoop in, always kind of generous, and I drag the guests in to help answer a question too. 01:04:14 Speaker 2: I love giving advice. 01:04:15 Speaker 3: Okay, then let's give some advice. Let me. I've done something to my Google docs where it now just does not whatever's happened. Something's been zoomed or zoomed out or something, and it looks disorienting. So bear with me while I read. Okay, this says, hello, Bridger and guest. I am requesting help figuring out what to do for my boyfriend's birthday. I am turning thirty in October, and my boyfriend is planning a trip to NYC for me. My boyfriend turned thirty last year. However, the timing was soon before we had to he had we we had to take a professional exam. M interesting. Hopefully that's explained, because I'm confused. We had to take a professional exam, so he wanted to focus on studying and didn't want me to plan anything. Now this year, he keeps asking what I will do for his birthday since he's been doing a trip for mine and I didn't plan anything like that for him last year. We have neither the time nor the funds to also do a trip for him this year, and we don't know too many people in the city we currently live in, so it would be difficult to plan a party. Please help. And that's from just the initials h B so, hbh. 01:05:24 Speaker 2: B oh's their boyfriend big time? 01:05:27 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's hear it. 01:05:29 Speaker 2: Well, like their boyfriend is planning this big trip. Okay, and then they did nothing for their boyfriend the year before. I don't hear any remorse. Oh. 01:05:40 Speaker 3: Maybe their love language is neglect, I guess. 01:05:42 Speaker 4: So. 01:05:43 Speaker 3: I mean, so this is where I'm coming from. I'm reading an email where this boyfriend has planned a trip and saying I'm giving you this gift. Look what I'm doing for you. 01:05:51 Speaker 2: Yes, and then you gave me nothing last year. 01:05:53 Speaker 3: Not only that, but then immediately saying I deserve a gift of equal or lesser, equal or greater value right soon. Maybe the only thing we know these two have apparently done together is some sort of exam. We don't know what it is. We don't know what they've gone on. One of them may have failed. We don't know where the tension is as far as that goes. But in my opinion, this boyfriend, you don't give a gift and say what are you Yeah? No, no, no, no. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: I agree, I absolutely agree. I don't play that at all. I don't play that. I don't say what are you getting from me? It's kind of on you what you're gonna do for you? 01:06:35 Speaker 3: Yes, that's like you show each other love and difference. 01:06:39 Speaker 2: And yes, exactly. It depends on whether you're good at giving gifts, whether it's your love language to give or get gifts. I in my relationship, it's a lot of me being like, I don't know, and my husband giving me something cool that I wasn't expecting. The ultimate it works. 01:06:57 Speaker 3: Out, But that's a hard thing to do. 01:06:59 Speaker 2: It's a very hard thing to do. But I usually plan my party or trip or whatever. I never put that on someone. 01:07:06 Speaker 3: That's so sweet of you, and you get it exactly what you want. 01:07:09 Speaker 2: My own, Yeah, I'm like it sweet of me? It is sweet of myself to myself. 01:07:14 Speaker 3: To kind of just not expect anyone to do anything for me. Yeah, it is a little sad, though. It's a little sad. 01:07:21 Speaker 2: I think I've planned my own baby shower. Okay, this is getting dark sad. Yeah, but it is like, yeah, I want to do what I want to do. And I'm like, right, we're all going to Palm Springs if you can splurge on your portion of the Airbnb grade. But if not a problem. 01:07:40 Speaker 3: So with HB. And now that we're talking about the trips and everything and the professional exam, I'm now wondering. The one exception I'll make here is if that professional exam was for them to become travel agents. Yeah, and so maybe they're both qualified to plan trips. 01:07:54 Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like, what trip are you planning? Right, because yeah, we would assume that they know how to plan a trip using not that much money, because. 01:08:05 Speaker 3: Right, they get into the database where they're cutting corners and planning outings and the boyfriend's doing all of this. 01:08:12 Speaker 2: And they don't know anyone in their town. 01:08:14 Speaker 3: They don't know anyone, so they're also deeply unpopular. That's another thing to remember about these. 01:08:20 Speaker 2: Friends they have no one. I mean, is your boyfriend going to be happy with being like, I'm taking you out to dinner? 01:08:31 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's an impossible situation. The only other option if this man is demanding a trip, have to do a trip. 01:08:38 Speaker 2: Yes, it seems like he's indirectly demanding a trip. 01:08:41 Speaker 3: And the I mean this is kind of like a they're really playing with fire financially here. 01:08:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolute what this could ruin. 01:08:48 Speaker 3: There's no end to the trips. 01:08:49 Speaker 2: This could ruin them both two trips a year. How close together are the birthdays? So it sounds like they're very do everything together apart going to New York together. And they're thirty, Yeah, they're thirty thirty well one of them's thirty. 01:09:05 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we don't know the age of h B. HB could be anywhere between eighteen and ninety nine exactly. Don't get married after one hundred, I've I'm very much on record about that. That's true. That's those are your golden years and you want to just. 01:09:21 Speaker 2: Free to get married after your ninety nine Did you know that? 01:09:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you need to be loose and free. Your hundreds are meant to be kind of a fun experimental. 01:09:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, a single dying time. 01:09:34 Speaker 3: It's a dying so HB obviously, I mean, I think the only advice we can say is get on the travel agent yea dot com. 01:09:44 Speaker 2: Or your own personal website, right, just hb's travel dot com, dot world, yes, dot world, dot gov. 01:09:55 Speaker 3: And you start typing in cities. What city though? I think something different than New York, something a little more so. 01:10:01 Speaker 2: They're going to New York for that expensive expensive How can we cut corners? Where can we go? 01:10:05 Speaker 3: Right? What's a cheap vacation? Same city? 01:10:07 Speaker 2: You could go to Grand Rapids written. I don't know why that. 01:10:12 Speaker 3: Comes from taking you to Grand rap. 01:10:14 Speaker 2: I don't mean to be rude, but. 01:10:17 Speaker 3: Peep where you could have a nice, affordable vacation. There's probably some there's something to do in it. 01:10:23 Speaker 2: It must be a water feature in Grand. 01:10:25 Speaker 3: Rapp certainly, they've got so much snow it's melting image like a white rivers everywhere. Yeah, fall into a river if you're not careful. 01:10:34 Speaker 2: Yeah for yeah, whitewater rafting tour in Grand rapt Is Grapes. 01:10:41 Speaker 3: Well, we got there. I mean you basically got there. You should be the travel agent, Yeah, I should. 01:10:46 Speaker 2: I should be taking exams, professional exams. 01:10:50 Speaker 3: With your husband boyfriend. I guess uh okay, so HB, you've gotten the perfect advice. Whitewater raft through Grand Rapids. Obviously winter, it's probably gonna take place in the deep winter. It's gonna be freezing cold. 01:11:07 Speaker 2: So yeah, you'll be able to find a hotel. Yeah, there's no one. No one's going to be there. 01:11:12 Speaker 3: No one will be there, just you and the tour guide. Off season, yeah, per fut rate. 01:11:18 Speaker 2: I love going places off season, especially somewhere like Grand rep Yeah. Have you ever been to like Palm Springs in the dead of summer? 01:11:26 Speaker 3: I have, when it's about one hundred and twenty degrees. 01:11:28 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred and fifteen. And you're like, but it was. 01:11:30 Speaker 3: Cheap that the eight Almost every restaurant is closed. 01:11:35 Speaker 2: No one's outdoors. It's like being on a hunted crew, only swim after. 01:11:41 Speaker 3: I know that. Feeling very well, I actually don't mind it. 01:11:43 Speaker 2: I don't either. 01:11:43 Speaker 3: If you can, if you can game the system and just except that you're going to be sweltering, yeah, and put an on and off sunscreen. 01:11:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go outside barefoot. You'll be fine. Yeah. 01:11:51 Speaker 3: It's a little sneak peak of what we'll all be dealing with in ten to fifteen years. Training exactly. It's training, it's absolutely training. Well, I think we answered so perfectly. We don't have to answer another question. I don't think HB is off to grand rapids. 01:12:05 Speaker 2: Taken care of in the perfect relationship, with the perfect vacations and the best birthdays. 01:12:11 Speaker 3: Oh and I am now saying we have we don't have the time or funds to do a trip for him this year, but we gave a discount. 01:12:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, we did. 01:12:18 Speaker 3: It's you, I mean, HB, you have to accept your spend some money. Yeah, just we're not getting away with a free gift. 01:12:24 Speaker 2: What else is there other than spending money? I just can't think of anything else. 01:12:33 Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean you're I mean, you're speaking this boyfriend's language. 01:12:38 Speaker 2: Yes, that's his language is trips. Look what so you're going on a trip. 01:12:45 Speaker 3: Enjoy those vacations, HB and Kelly. I now have kind of my own little trip to old fashioned Buffalo through this puzzle. I mean, we're very clear that this is not Buffalo. But I'm going to edge and but this is Buffalo. When right after Thanksgiving rolls around night of Thanksgiving, I'm going to crack open Terry's piece of art. 01:13:09 Speaker 2: That's right before you go to the Black Friday sales. 01:13:13 Speaker 3: Right in line in my tents outside of Cole's. Yes, I break out a puzzle and they it'll probably take over. I'll miss the sales, yeah, but I'll be so cozy. Good. I've had a wonderful time with you here, and this has been this has been wonderful. Actually, I'm not gonna apologize it can I've got to. I've got to hit the brakes. I apologize. It's enough. 01:13:35 Speaker 2: Over, we did it. 01:13:37 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. 01:13:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for making me not feel as embarrassed about being pregnant. 01:13:43 Speaker 3: Listener, you have nothing to be embarrassed about. You should be proud. You've been listening to the podcast. You've had the time of your life, and now go take that information in the world. Tell somebody of what a wonderful time you had. This is uh to swipe a phrase from Terry Redland America's most popular podcast. Let's make it America's most popular podcast. Go bother your coworker about it and tell them what a cozy time you had. Or don't do whatever you want with your day and we'll talk again soon. I love you goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley. The theme song, of course, could only come from Miracle Worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? Invit? 01:14:42 Speaker 2: Did you hear. 01:14:45 Speaker 3: Fun a man? 01:14:46 Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? But you're a guess, Tom. You gotta come to me empty And I said, no good, it's your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbe me