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Speaker 3: which is being recorded at my own home. There's no excuse.

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Speaker 3: You expect a greater deal of professionalism from me, higher standard,

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Speaker 3: to today's guest. It's Kelly Hudson. Kelly, welcome to I said,

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Speaker 3: no gift.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. Thank you, Richard.

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Speaker 3: I'm bringing an energy here that's maybe not frantic, a

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Speaker 3: For someone acknowledged. Thank you acknowledge my reality for once,

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Speaker 2: Yes, apologetic, frantic, horrified. You're okay, though, It's okay. I

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Speaker 2: Yes. And then also my husband has a grandfather or

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Speaker 3: No, I need to just play against myself because I'm

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Speaker 3: absolutely registered trademark slogan M Yeah. And Terry also this

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00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: is called the title of the piece, is trimming the

443
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: tree trademark. This has also been yes, yes, this person

444
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 3: is has a pack of lawyers.

445
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: That's right, trimming the Nope, No, trimming the tree belongs

446
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: to this puzzle title. You can't talk about trimming the

447
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: tree at home.

448
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: That phrase at home, you're going to get sued by the.

449
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: Regular excuse me for Christmas Eve.

450
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: Parents are being dragged out.

451
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 2: Mommy, Yes, and there it is.

452
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, trimming the tree. That means and this is going

453
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: to show a real ignorance on my part. That means

454
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 3: you're decorating the.

455
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: Tree, I believe. So trimming the tree means you're like

456
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: draping garlands, hanging ornaments, putting lights. I don't know why

457
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: it's called trimming.

458
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: I think the reason that word it's fallen out of

459
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: vogue is because Terry got his legal pause all over it,

460
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: and we've all forgotten what Because we all now associate

461
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: trimming with a trip to super cuts. Yes, you know,

462
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: a little off the top, that sort of thing, And

463
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: so we think, oh, you're cutting the tree, but it's

464
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: actually the popcorn.

465
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: Yes, the popcorn on the string.

466
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: The popcorn on the string is such an invitation for rodents. Yes,

467
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: it was like.

468
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: Got in your home. Weren't already an invitation to rod it?

469
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: I know, I was just swarming with rats and ants.

470
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've never been one to put food on the tree.

471
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 2: I think my mom did hang candy canes.

472
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: Okay, my mom did too, Yeah, which.

473
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: Could get messy. I feel like there were a few

474
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: times where I'd get a candy cane, eat half of it,

475
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: the like unwrapped thing, maybe even put it back in

476
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: the tree.

477
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 3: Your house is as sticky as a bus station, exactly.

478
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: I would say candy canes are a horrible tree decoration

479
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: because they wait, they are constantly slipping off.

480
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: They are that's right. They need like some ridges or

481
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: something to stay put.

482
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: They make no sense as a decoration on a tree.

483
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: What is the deal with a candy cane? Why is

484
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: it a cane?

485
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: Does it have something to do with the Nativity scene?

486
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: Is it like one of the shepherd.

487
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's like, yeah, the shepherd's the the thing

488
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: that you yank the lamb.

489
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: Is performer off the stage with.

490
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, bad performer or a lamb.

491
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like imagining the Nativity scene there's a terrible

492
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: comedian on stage, or like we're about to experience the birth.

493
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 3: Get this guy off. He's gone way over his time. Yes,

494
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: they drag him off the stage and then Christmas is born.

495
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: Yes.

496
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: Do decorate trees now?

497
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I just decorated my first adult tree

498
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: last year.

499
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: Actually, how was that experience?

500
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: This was fine. I got a small tree, I put

501
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: one string of lights, and then I realized our collection

502
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: of ornaments amounts to three ornaments. So I put those

503
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: on and that was it.

504
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: You didn't go buy more?

505
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: I didn't know, not yet. I'm like I try. I

506
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to decorate for Christmas. And then

507
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: I bought a wreath and a tree and I was done.

508
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: And I was like maybe this year, though, that we've

509
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: moved into a bigger house, it really invites a full tree, right.

510
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: You have that space that's begging for it, Yes.

511
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: That window that begs for a tree to be displayed

512
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: in it. So robbers and exactly, we might even decorate

513
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: the outside.

514
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's really going on.

515
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

516
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: My boyfriend is very pro decorating, loves a tree. I

517
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: essentially could just careless. I'm such a joyless person. What

518
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: am I doing?

519
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: Do you like Christmas? Though?

520
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: I think it's nice? Okay, I think I have nice

521
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: memories of it.

522
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you liked Christmas as a kid.

523
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it okay. Yeah. I loved the

524
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: idea of coming good.

525
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: Something happened and everyone can relate to this. But it

526
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: was like, oh Christmas, it brings me no joy suddenly,

527
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't know when that was.

528
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: I was still excited. I feel like when I was

529
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: like eighteen, running home and being like presents, but then like, yeah,

530
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: it slowly faded away, especially as I was like, you know,

531
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: learning about capitalism, of.

532
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: Course, and also being just being like, well, I own

533
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: everything I need, Yes, exactly, I want something, I've purchased it.

534
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I was poor. I knew how much money was

535
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: in my account at all times. Getting a bunch of

536
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: useless shit every year was like what are we doing?

537
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: But truly, having a child is a rediscovery of all

538
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: the things that were fun about.

539
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 3: Being a kid, right, that's having a niece. Forgot about that.

540
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's pretty cool. It's it's exciting. Like

541
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: I just sighted early on that I'm not going to

542
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: go into the full lie of Santa. But I hope

543
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: that no children are hearing this right now.

544
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: But I have a lar. I mean, kindergarteners make up

545
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: about half of the auducts, so good, very careful.

546
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I was just deciding. I was just like,

547
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: it's so weird to lie fully right to just from

548
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: start to finish, be like, and this is what happened next,

549
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: and I know this for a fact. You know, it's

550
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 2: too scary. So basically my plan is I hear Santa's

551
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 2: coming or so I've been told, you know, something like that.

552
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: But that's still lying the court of law. You just

553
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: want to be have your hands clean.

554
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: Enough exactly exactly. He was like, did all these things

555
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: am I stocking are from Santa? And I was like maybe,

556
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: So it's like, no, this is a lie because I

557
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: did put those things in the stock. It's like it's

558
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: so hard.

559
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's got to be a lot of conflict there.

560
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: I have two friends who have made their plan or

561
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: what they do is all of the good gifts come

562
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: from them and then Santa brings like a bag of candy.

563
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: So for them, that's largely about getting the credit.

564
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Because around Santa got a lot of fucking right.

565
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: My parents are getting you know, all of my garbage. Yes,

566
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 3: and then meanwhile I'm you know, idolizing this guy.

567
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: That that was a real wake up call for me,

568
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: is like, what are parents doing giving away credit to

569
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: this fucking loser.

570
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: It's a complete loser. I think we can say it

571
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: at this point. It hundreds of years of taking hard

572
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: working parents credit, eat disgusting, what kind of dragging himself

573
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: around them?

574
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: All?

575
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think that. I mean, this is why

576
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm not having children. The one reason I guess I'm

577
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: now saying I don't want to talk. I don't want

578
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: the conflict of Santa Cloum's.

579
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: It is a conflict. There are many ConfL raising a child.

580
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: I will what's number two?

581
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: Number two? Well, for me, it was God whether or

582
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: not to circumcise my soul.

583
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a huge one.

584
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: That was huge. That's number one.

585
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: Actually circumstance, Now what was that? I mean, we can

586
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: talk about it or not, we can No.

587
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: I did a whole episode of my podcast about it.

588
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: You did what where did you end up?

589
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I ended up And I don't mean to offend anyone here,

590
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: but I ended up realizing that it was u mutilation

591
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: of genital Sure.

592
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: I mean that's not an argument for no reason, right,

593
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: it does seem kind like a random yeah.

594
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've even even just like, you know, it's

595
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: mentioned in the Bible constantly, but and like and it's

596
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: still like my husband, there's so many podcasts in my

597
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: world right now, but my husband has a podcast called

598
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Bible Brother. Oh you have right, Yeah, so they're reading

599
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: the Bible from start to finish. It's like, oh, we're

600
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: finally going to find out what this circumcision thing is,

601
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: Like we'll do some real research, and like it's brought

602
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: up a lot and there's never a reason. It's just

603
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: it's just some silly command. So yeah, there's no clear reason.

604
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: It's something about differentiating yourself. I'm sure it was a

605
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: tribal thing at the time.

606
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: That makes that, like logically historically maybe the most sense

607
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: of where that.

608
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Because there's i mean there's other genital mutilation and other

609
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: tribes around the world, and it's all it's all tribal related,

610
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: it's coming of age or whatever. I realized I'm not

611
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: in that tribe at all. I mean, my husband is

612
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: ninety six percent Jewish Ashkenazi Jewish.

613
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: But he didn't. He was cool with it.

614
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, we had a chat. We had a

615
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: few chats. He was definitely like but and then he

616
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: was like.

617
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, there's another app for that where you

618
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: will wipe your opinions on circumcisions exactly.

619
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: We don't talk, we don't talk.

620
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Avoid communication with your partner on at all costs.

621
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that was the conclusion we came to.

622
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: But I often, I obviously have to remain strictly in

623
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: this camp of everyone. Every parent makes their own decision,

624
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: and I know it's a very hard decision, but ultimately

625
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: I want to leave it up to my kid. We'll

626
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: talk about it when he's like big enough, you know,

627
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: right consenting.

628
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a I mean fascinating adult experience. I imagine

629
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: for someone I can't speak to that. I have a

630
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: friend that just did it, and was it what was

631
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: the what was their feeling?

632
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: He was like, he'd always kind of fetishized it and

633
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: there was no like, I don't think any health need

634
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: for it. But he was like, I'm just always wanted one.

635
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: And he's from the UK, so he was like, I

636
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: just they's so whatever. He liked them, and so he

637
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: got one and he loves it, and I'm like, good

638
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: for you.

639
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: I would you know, the surgery of it all seems yeah.

640
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: You gotta take a little time off and maybe you

641
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: spend a couple days in a wheelchair and you're good.

642
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: You're good. I wonder what Terry Redland thinks of circumcision.

643
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: I think he's probably pro, probably probably pro. I mean,

644
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: I can't speak for Terry. We don't know if he's

645
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: alive or dead, or if it's a he or she.

646
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Is very mysterious. There's a little, very little information about

647
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: Terry popular artist.

648
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: Definitely sounds like a man's doing.

649
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, a trademarking, and it can only be

650
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: a straight man.

651
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: But I will say, this puzzle has been you.

652
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: So you put it together.

653
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: This is yeah, And I know this in this puzzle

654
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: intimately because I've put it together and I've studied every

655
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: inch of it.

656
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: How long did it take you to put together?

657
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing we always get a puzzle

658
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: for like I get together with my family for a

659
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: few days and like an airbnb around Chris Smith, so

660
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: like three to five days. And it was my idea

661
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: to get a puzzle the first time. And everyone was like,

662
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: what are we gonna need with a puzzle?

663
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: You loser?

664
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I brought it and everyone was into

665
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: the puzzle. Everyone was addicted to the puzzle, and I

666
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: knew it, and so we just it's kind of a

667
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: race against time of like before we have to check

668
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: out at the Serbnb, right, and we've only like succeeded

669
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: in putting together like once.

670
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: So and it was it this puzzle, this one we've

671
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: never put together, I thouze.

672
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: We tried, Yeah, we tried.

673
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: How many pieces? Was the first one?

674
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: The first one? Thousand?

675
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

676
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always a thousand?

677
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: Now, am I? A puzzle loser is a thousand? Like,

678
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: oh god, you usually do a thousand.

679
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: Thousand is tough. A thousand is tough. But I feel like,

680
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just my number.

681
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: What was the picture on the original puzzle?

682
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: It was another Christmas scene. Always a Christmas scene. We

683
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: always get a new Christmas scene. We're gonna out eventually.

684
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: I just recently learned, and I'm this is just going

685
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: to be infuriating for the listener because I don't know

686
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: the name. But it's like a There are these unbelievably

687
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: intricate jigsaw puzzles made out of wood pieces.

688
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen those.

689
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: They're beautiful.

690
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: Yes, I borrowed one from a friend and it was

691
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: very fun to put together.

692
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems like a real luxuriate. I wish I

693
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: could remember the name, but I guess you type in

694
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: wooden puzzle pieces or something. It was like Patriot or something.

695
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. Certainly wasn't Buffalo. Apologies to Buffalo. During

696
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 3: the pandemic. We did well. We only did one puzzle,

697
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: but was that a way of passing time during pandemic?

698
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: It was tough because okay, the pandemic was my dream

699
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: At the beginning, I was like, this is exactly what

700
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: I want to be doing. Is nothing in my home?

701
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: But I had a one and a half year old.

702
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: Oh right. Life sucked.

703
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know it was not fun for anyone,

704
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: but it was really bad from start to finish.

705
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: As the pandemic was worse for you.

706
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Yes me, no, I'm I'm it's it was like beautiful.

707
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: You know, we had savings. We were like freaking out.

708
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: You know, obviously we didn't have work for a long

709
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: time and that was scary, but you know we were lucky.

710
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, the puzzle thing was like I would love

711
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: it if that was my reality. And I figured out

712
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: a way to have it away from him, because there's

713
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: no way you do a puzzle around because my biggest

714
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: fear is like losing one of these people.

715
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: So then what's the point of it. Just throw it

716
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: all out, throw it in the drash.

717
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: So I I did it on like the kitchen island

718
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: for like a while, and like I succeeded for a

719
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: little bit.

720
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: And then what happened?

721
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: Then maybe I finished one or two. That was when

722
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: I borrowed a wooden one. That was fun. And then

723
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: but it was just me standing in the kitchen alone.

724
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: It was helping.

725
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: He didn't. He's not into it like the other's or

726
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: like me, Yeah he's not. It was like I want

727
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: to be doing that stuff like at night with friends, right,

728
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: listening to some music. Right, it's having some tea or something.

729
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: It's a nice passive thing you can do with your hands. Yeah,

730
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: actually doing something exciting, right, But meanwhile you were kind

731
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: of this stress nightmare in your kitchen.

732
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, after the child's gone to bed, standing alone in

733
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: the kitchen doing a puzzle, my leg's getting tired.

734
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm okay at doing puzzles. I don't find

735
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: a ton of joy in them, but it is you

736
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: get to the Yeah, put it all together, and it's

737
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: an exciting.

738
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: Face Like it's one of the very few things in

739
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: life that are I'm good at. So like I'll find

740
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: pieces quickly and be like, I'm good at something. This

741
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: is wonderful.

742
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: I wonder where that inate ability comes from, Like, what

743
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: like physical thing do you have that makes you good

744
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: at that? Is your eyesight or what I mean? I

745
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: think that's kind of the only thing that I don't know.

746
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: I think it again, might be some ADHD thing, probably

747
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: some some like part of my brain that's over active

748
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: or undirective that makes it fun and easy.

749
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I can say if I'm

750
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: good or bad.

751
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't enjoy your probably probably.

752
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: Or probably so good that it brings me no choice,

753
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: is just so bad.

754
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: You're speeding through it. Done, done, done, done. The piece

755
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: has gone to place.

756
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I got one of those photos you

757
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: know where you get your it's custom. We got like

758
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: a of our dog and put it together and that

759
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: was very fun.

760
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: Oh a custom puzzle, gotcha, right.

761
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: But I mean, as I'm not a puzzle maker, I

762
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: kind of chose a photo that had just a ton

763
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: of the same color, oh, which made it that's kind

764
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: of a huey pain. Those are so tough, right, whereas

765
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: with like a trimming the tree, for example, we've got

766
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: different textures color.

767
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: I remember this was a fun thing doing this, like

768
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: blanket that's on the back of this sleigh, because you're like, oh,

769
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: the stripes of the blanket, the tree pieces were all together,

770
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: the fences.

771
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you have the bricific fond memories like oh.

772
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: This windows a little different than that one.

773
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: Folk's coming out of the tree. Yeah.

774
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: So which chimney is it though, the little metal one

775
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: or the brick one. Yeah, there's lots of fun, lots

776
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: of fun.

777
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I wonder when my life is going to

778
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: get to a place where I'm putting this together.

779
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the mood to unpack the Christmas buzzle.

780
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: Do you know if all thousand pieces are in here

781
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: or is this some sort of disgusting.

782
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: Trick must be? I hope to god, I hope there's

783
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: no guarantee though, because I just moved.

784
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, and you were kind of loosely throwing

785
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: this around.

786
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, tossing it from person to person.

787
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: And what was the moving experience like for you?

788
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: Oh god, well, I'm pregnant, so like everyone's like, don't

789
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: lift it. The drinking, yeah, but it's tough for me,

790
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: Like I'm lifting some things, probably some things I shouldn't,

791
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: but like, also, okay, so moving day, we hired movers,

792
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: they're moving everything in. I'm like, I gotta start unpacking

793
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: because what I did this time is I got those

794
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: reusable boxes that you can rent. Have you heard of

795
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: Fantastic They're they're plastic and they like latch shut and

796
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: they I got fifty of them, so they like unload

797
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: our house. You pack them up, then you unload them.

798
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: But I had like three days to get them on

799
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: packed before they were gonna be picked up to pay

800
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: for another fucking week. Yeah, So I was like, oh god,

801
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 2: So I was unpacking the kitchen frantically, like the day

802
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: we moved, and something. At some point my body was like,

803
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: if you bend over one more time, you're gonna fucking puke.

804
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: And so my whole body became like a cup of

805
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: puke that if I tipped at it in any direction,

806
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: I would throw.

807
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: This top.

808
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: It was like, it's this top sphincter that becomes under stress.

809
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: Whenever it's like, yeah, there's like uterus pressing against everything.

810
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: So it was just I started to get really nauseous

811
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: and I had to sit perfectly still for a while

812
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: and drink water and you just have to take breaks.

813
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: It's really fucking weird.

814
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: But meanwhile, but you were able to get it done

815
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: in the time span. Yeah, we've got a nice incentive

816
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: to get things out.

817
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like either I found a quick remedy

818
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: that was put the box up on something or be

819
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: sitting down.

820
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: Oh right, there are other ways to get things out

821
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: of a box that has been bending over and over.

822
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, over and over hundreds of times.

823
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's an interesting service. I don't know where.

824
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some horrible ecological thing it's going to

825
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: lead to, but yeah, it does make plastic.

826
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: Is infusing all my belongings now, which is terrible.

827
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: I've got to look into that if I ever move again.

828
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should. I think environmentally it's the right thing

829
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: to do, and it's also just like one less thing

830
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: to worry about, right right, Yeah?

831
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: And are you the sort of person when you go

832
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: on a vacation when you get home, do you unpack

833
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 3: your bag immediately?

834
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. My husband frantically unpacks the second weekend.

835
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm on side, you're.

836
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: Him, You're dan, Yeah, I'm I'm just like, it'll go

837
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: h It's embarrassing, it'll It'll go weeks sometimes and I'm

838
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: like living out of the suitcase fulling clothes out of it,

839
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: being like, well, this is still clean, you know. And

840
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: sometimes some trips are better than others though, where I'm

841
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I all of this is dirty. It's

842
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: going in the hamper. Of course, I need my toiletries,

843
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: so I'm taking those.

844
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: Out right right. I Mean, I think my secret is

845
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: I just accept or I just myself everything in there

846
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: is dirty and it can all just go in the laundry,

847
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: right Yeah. I don't think of it as clean clothing.

848
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: I just think that it all has to go through

849
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: the wall of it, regardless of whether I.

850
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: Suitcase is disgusting or the place you were is discussed.

851
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, I don't think there's any real

852
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: logic to it. I think it's probably some secret trick

853
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: my brain is doing. It's just like laziness. And then

854
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 3: it just becomes another problem that.

855
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: I have to deal with.

856
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: But at least the suitcase gets unpacked.

857
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Right, which is great, good for you.

858
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: But then meanwhile, my boyfriend's suitcase is sitting there for

859
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: at least a week.

860
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, isn't it funny how we're all paired, all

861
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: of us opposites are paired with each other.

862
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: We're all I mean going. Terry knows best, Terry Redland

863
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: the puzzle master. He knows about putting pieces together. He does,

864
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: he would know, he would.

865
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 2: Terry Redland gives a shit about puzzles, and Terry's over

866
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: He's like, I just want my art.

867
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I forget that Terry's a puzzle maker. Buffalo Buffalo

868
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: is the Santa Claus in this scenario. I'm giving all

869
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: the credit to Buffalo. Yeah, Terry's the Santa Claus. I

870
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: suppose so, Terry, my apologies, You're an excellent artist trademark,

871
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: and Buffalo is kind of the puzzle master in the situation.

872
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Buffalo was like, Terry, do you want to

873
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 2: get in on this? We noticed your America's most popular artist.

874
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: We'd love to say that on our backs.

875
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: Who's America's second most popular artist?

876
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: That's what I want to don't know? And is Buffalo

877
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: involved with them?

878
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: Right? I mean maybe my guess Thomas Kincaid was the

879
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: most popular artist. Now did Terry swoops in Thomas Kincaid?

880
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: What is that?

881
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: Basically? Did this exact type of painting? Okay, kind of

882
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 3: a cozy village scene.

883
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking to see if I can find a year

884
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: on here, because I'm just trying. I was in my

885
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: mind just now trying to picture the meeting between Buffalo Terry.

886
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: Redlin sitting in Sorry, welcome to Buffalo. Can we get

887
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: you a water at the end?

888
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, can we get you a bottle of water or

889
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: anything like that? We have tiny waters and or you

890
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: know I'm imagining is it was this a meeting that

891
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: took place in the eighties. It's just how I imagined it.

892
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: I'm imagining this took place in nineteen ninety four.

893
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four, so no Curic yet, there's no Curig copy.

894
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: It's more from a pot.

895
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a pot that's been sitting in the kitchen

896
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: for six hours the Buffalo Puzzle Office, right, and there's

897
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: like a bowl of mints dinner mints or yes thing, yeah,

898
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: which I find revolting.

899
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, disgusting, But at that point in time, people were

900
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: like putting their fingers in the yeah little pillows.

901
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's probably the reality of Terry. And again,

902
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: we don't know if Terry's alive or dead. No one

903
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: will ever know.

904
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: No year listed.

905
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: Harry will live forever, at least through this puzzle.

906
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

907
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 3: I think we should play a game. Okay, let's it's

908
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: been a minute I think since we played the game

909
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: gift Master. So that's what we'll play, gift Master. I

910
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: need a number between one and ten from you. Six. Okay,

911
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating.

912
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

913
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: In the meantime, you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want.

914
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 3: I don't care.

915
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: Sure I would like to promote my podcast.

916
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: This sucks.

917
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: I really didn't want.

918
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: To go and apologize. I'm giving the time.

919
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: I was hoping I could recommend something useful. But I

920
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: do have a podcast that's about sex and it's called

921
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: What Are You Into? And I'm on a hiatus, but

922
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: there are two years worth of episodes on there, and

923
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: I think you guys would like it. If you're curious

924
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: about sex, if you're curious about people that and they're

925
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: things that they're into, I think you'll you'll like this podcast.

926
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: I had a Dominatrix on once. That was fun. I

927
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: had OnlyFans creators. I had, you know, we did a

928
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: whole episode where we just talked about movies from our childhood.

929
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: That turned us on. That's a great I talk about

930
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 2: I think I've talked about being a horny child on

931
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: that podcast so much and it comes up all the

932
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: time that I'm like, it feels pedophilic to talk about

933
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: a horny child, but it was about yourself exactly. I

934
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: was like, and Devin saw what was so hot? I

935
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: wanted to fuck him, and it's like, yeah, but he

936
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: was a child, but I was a child.

937
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: But I mean there's some emotional conflict there.

938
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, what are you into?

939
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 3: Check it out? Go listen to that podcast was easier. Yeah,

940
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's.

941
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: Did I ask you to be on the podcast?

942
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: You that you hinted at it, but I think you

943
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: knew that. I absolutely cannot comfortably talk about sex, at

944
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: least publicly.

945
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't think Langan wanted to.

946
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: Be Langan and I would both just be absolute crumphos.

947
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh I would love to have you both. It would

948
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: delight me so to torture.

949
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: It would be an hour of you talking and us

950
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: doing very curaging day. I mean, I'm not proud of that, yeah,

951
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: but I mean there's just a lot of years of

952
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 3: unpacking total.

953
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: Yes, what's been done to us all, Like sex is

954
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: just shame, territory, ridiculous for everyone.

955
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: Right, I mean maybe maybe I throw myself onto the podcast,

956
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: but I'm not going even now.

957
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I would love that even now. Like I think

958
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: I told uh my sons in preschool and like his

959
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: best friend's mom, I was like, yeah, I have a

960
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: sex podcast. She was like, oh really, and I was like,

961
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is terrible. Like I'm basically a

962
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: porn actor to these people. They're just like fucking crazy.

963
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: And again, nothing wrong with those people exactly, but it's

964
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: all we're just the shame is beaten into us. Yeah, yes,

965
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: real wild people. Was my apologies to everyone. Let's be

966
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're all on the same page

967
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: as we should be more comfortable, but absolutely, But then again,

968
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: it's impossible to be. It's really hard because the Puritans.

969
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: Exactly if the Puritans started our.

970
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: God into this country and made us all feel bad

971
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: about everything forever. Let's play gift Master. Okay, this is

972
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 3: how it works. I'm gonna name three potential gifts, three items,

973
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 3: experience is what have you? And then I'm gonna name

974
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: three celebrities. You can tell me which celebrity.

975
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: This is the game from the episode that I listened to.

976
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: Played listened to Brandon Scott Jones because he's a friend

977
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: of mine and I miss him and I haven't seen

978
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: him in a long time.

979
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: Brandon, you better be listening to this episode.

980
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: It's nice to spend some time with him by your podcast.

981
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: And this is the gaming played.

982
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: And that episode is great if the listener hasn't heard.

983
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: It, especially this game.

984
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: He played it with like a kind of a frightening

985
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: skill level. Yes, but he.

986
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: Thought about everything so quickly and so well, yeah.

987
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: Well, let's see how you do. The three gifts are

988
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: Number one, a gorgeous quilt, so just a beautiful quilt

989
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 3: to picture that in your mind. Number two mind control.

990
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: This person will be able to control minds and they'll

991
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: be able to it for good or ill. Yes, you know.

992
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 3: Number three is Avatar on DVD. So first something that

993
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: you might find right, not the new one. This is

994
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine's Avatar on DVD.

995
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: Mind control and a beautiful quilt.

996
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: Okay, and you'll be giving them to the following people

997
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 3: will scroll the dark okay. The three celebrities today are

998
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: musician Beck. I think he's actually officially left scientology. Oh

999
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: really clear to go.

1000
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was something about like it was his wife

1001
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: the whole time or something.

1002
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: I think his dad was a scientologist, so I think

1003
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: he was one. He was raised in scientific what have you.

1004
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: But I think he's kind of and I don't want

1005
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: to speak for Beck disavowed the religion.

1006
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh good.

1007
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: Number two Idris Elba we all love. There's also a DJ.

1008
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: I believe really pretty sure at least Moonlight is a

1009
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: DJ okay or was he just in a movie about

1010
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: being a DJ?

1011
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know him speaking for.

1012
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: These celebrities in a huge way, ah, but speaking And

1013
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: now here's a why was this in the dock in

1014
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: the first place. The third celebrity is octomom. Oh my god,

1015
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: we haven't thought about Octomom in a while. No, is

1016
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: she alive or dead?

1017
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like Octomom came up and

1018
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: recently in conversation, you're kidding, someone at like some party

1019
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: was like, oh, my dad worked as a something at

1020
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: the hospital that Octomom was at or something like he

1021
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: was a nurse sine maternity ward or something, and they

1022
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: were like, oh shit.

1023
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: This is the Octomom renaissance.

1024
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Octasong, he yourselva back and Octomom. So, we've got

1025
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: a beautiful quilt mind control? And what was the third one?

1026
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, correction, A gorgeous quilt. A gorgeous

1027
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: So I think there's something difference between a beautiful quilt

1028
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: and a gorgeous quilt to me, is different than a

1029
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: beautiful quill.

1030
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, these just fell right.

1031
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: Oh. I'm very excited to hear.

1032
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: This because the second I heard that Beck had disavowed scientology,

1033
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: I thought about giving him mind control. But this is

1034
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: only hearsay and we have not confirmed this. I was like,

1035
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 2: Beck would be good to control arm.

1036
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: I would allow him to control my mind.

1037
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like.

1038
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: He's still got pretty good taste for being on the

1039
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: scene this week.

1040
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: I might have to have a conversation beforehand.

1041
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: Right, like, this is the power I'm giving. Yeah, can

1042
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 3: you be trusted? Yes, yes, You're not going to suddenly

1043
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: be teaming up with the Miscavie.

1044
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: What from me, though?

1045
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: What?

1046
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: What would he want me to do or why? I

1047
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 2: don't see Beck as someone who wants power.

1048
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: He's kind of always leaning back and ready to accept things.

1049
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't see him as kind of a puppeteer.

1050
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Beck definitely accompanied me through beautiful and cripplingly

1051
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: depressing times in my life. I feel like Sea Change

1052
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: came out when I was in college and Olympia Washington.

1053
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: It was I feel like it was the winter when

1054
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: it came out, but I was. I was definitely listening

1055
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: to it a lot to winter, and the winter in Olympia,

1056
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: Washington is something.

1057
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 3: Else, folks. It is.

1058
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: Long, long, long, dark winter of the soul.

1059
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: You want some kind of sad folk music?

1060
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1061
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Beck accompanied me through those things. I would

1062
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: love to cover him in a gorgeous quilt because he

1063
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: has been my gorgeous quilt. Yeah.

1064
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: Wait, so were you giving him the quilt or the

1065
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: mind control the quilt?

1066
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: The quilt okay, because honestly, I don't trust him with control.

1067
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't see I associate Beck with his album Midnight Vultures, Oh,

1068
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 3: which is fund Oh.

1069
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny, it's sexy.

1070
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's truly everything you could want from an oun.

1071
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: It's really good. I would listen to that a lot

1072
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: in high school, and I remember at the time being like,

1073
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: this is so cool.

1074
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: In Glendale that I've been to, which I mean for

1075
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: me is Glendale is.

1076
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: Yes, sego ticket. Those things were pointed out to me

1077
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: within the last year. I didn't realize that he had

1078
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: mentioned those things that are within my vicinity.

1079
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: That song DEBRAA is truly an all time favor.

1080
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: It's so good, so disrespectful but in the best. Yes,

1081
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: because like my main problem, Oh god, I shouldn't say

1082
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: this publicly. My if anyone is like, do you like

1083
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: hip hop or rap? And I'll say I have not

1084
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: been able to get into it because of the baseline

1085
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: sexism that has existed in so much of the genre,

1086
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: and a lot of disrespective women and all this stuff.

1087
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: But I and of course I've evolved from there. There's

1088
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: plenty of hip hop and rapt exactly, but that's is

1089
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: so gross but and misogynistic, but so funny and like

1090
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: aware of itself.

1091
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like obviously a weirdo going to Glendale.

1092
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: It's a character, yes, exactly, it's a character who wants

1093
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: to fuck this woman and her sister.

1094
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, Deborah and her sister. I believe her name

1095
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: was Jenny.

1096
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: I believe that's right. Okay, great, Yeah, so beautiful gorgeous.

1097
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 3: Blanket, right, quilt quilt?

1098
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: I would hope it's handmade.

1099
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: A gorgeous quilt can only be handled. And you're not

1100
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: buying that a mason.

1101
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

1102
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: You can get a decent quilt at any store made

1103
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 3: by machine. Sounds terrible, Right, My sister makes quilts and

1104
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: every one of them gorgeous, gorgeous. Yeah, okay, so Beck

1105
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 3: is getting it and he kind of is a quilter himself.

1106
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: Let's be honest with this music, Yes, honestly kind of

1107
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: stitching things together.

1108
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: The one that goes with that one, the most out

1109
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: of the.

1110
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: Three, makes perfect sense.

1111
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: And I don't want to pass judgment on Octimom, but

1112
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: I don't know about any cool things about.

1113
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: Her other than she released eight children, she held, she carried.

1114
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: I have immense respect for her like physical abilities. It's

1115
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: almost like athletes who I really have no connection to. Sadly, like,

1116
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm just like, good job. I don't know what else

1117
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: to say.

1118
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Octomom, why do I associate her with kind of trash.

1119
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Because it must have been there must have been something

1120
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: going on at the time, or it was just started

1121
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: like shitty sex culture being like, well, she's a whore.

1122
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: There's eight of them.

1123
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: I hope misunders people did not know how eight babies come. Yes,

1124
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: I imagine it's because like that time period I'm imagined.

1125
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: I think she was late aughts. It was like peak

1126
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: reality trash TV, and like everyone had a horrible I'm

1127
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: not speaking for Octomom. I should not have brought her up.

1128
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 3: This is her renaissance and now we're already trashing her again.

1129
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 3: She probably tried to, yes, she did right away.

1130
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: That like doing porn or doing Playboy is wonderful. Yes,

1131
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: But when I was a younger person, that kind of

1132
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: thing was like well immediate, like yeah, that was like

1133
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: that's permission to trash this person. But like, man, I

1134
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: I can't give her mind control.

1135
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say mother of eight could probably

1136
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 3: use mind control. Yeah, she's got I mean, those kids

1137
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 3: are probably well.

1138
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: That's true, and she's not using it like me.

1139
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: Again, that's the trick with mind control.

1140
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: And that's the trick with these people that I don't know,

1141
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: eat your sel but either. But okay, we'll get to

1142
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: him in a second, but we have to give out

1143
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: Optimom the Avatar DVD. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it just

1144
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 2: it's just like a sat question. This is to that

1145
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: gorgeous quilled is to beck As Avatar DVD is.

1146
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: Too, ya Avatar? She is kind of that's like the

1147
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: exact period. I'm thinking, Yeah, it was around that time.

1148
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: It's kind of her era. That's when she was kind

1149
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: of reigning supreme.

1150
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: If I had to guess when that happened, I would

1151
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: guess yeah, late two thousand's right. So that's done.

1152
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: She's got her DVDs. You can put it on and

1153
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: all eight kids are mesmerized for four hours.

1154
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's maybe she'll learn something from it.

1155
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: It has some kind of vague message about taking care

1156
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: of the planet.

1157
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: The planet, Yeah, and sex using tails.

1158
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: That were they tails or were they ponytails?

1159
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they were attached to their heads, but

1160
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly. I just saw the trailer for

1161
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: Avatar two.

1162
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I have not seen the trailer, magical. Are you

1163
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: looking forward to it?

1164
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, okay, So I haven't been in

1165
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: the movies much in the last four years, honestly. I

1166
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: didn't go to the movie for some reason after Jonah

1167
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 2: was born and then the pandemic happened. So the first

1168
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: movie I saw in theaters was this recent The Batman.

1169
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh sure, and I was like, blown away, you know,

1170
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: so good, the perfect film. I don't know if I

1171
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: would think that if I saw it, HBO mass but

1172
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: it was amazing in theaters. And then I just took

1173
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: Jonah and my son to Minions Too, of course.

1174
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: Real shift of tone.

1175
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've been to a lot of kids movies lately,

1176
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: because what else are you going to do on a

1177
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: hot Sunday afternoon. And they did the Avatar too trailer

1178
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: at the beginning, and I was like, oo.

1179
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 3: Beautiful. You're like someone who had not seen movies six months.

1180
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: Ago, exactly, and I'm like, I'm impressed, Sigourney. We were

1181
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: not present in the trailers.

1182
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding. The only thing that would draw me.

1183
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the guy that's in it. He's

1184
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: only in his avatar character.

1185
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: Now, oh facts. I mean, I don't remember how the

1186
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: movie ended up felt. I feel like people.

1187
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: Get trapped into that body for good or something.

1188
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: I just remember people like taking a nap on a tree.

1189
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was in the middle of

1190
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: the if that it was even part of the movie.

1191
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: I remember that kind of a Grandmother Willow type president.

1192
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: Seeing his tiny limp body carried by an app like

1193
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: a big.

1194
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: Human body being carried by yes.

1195
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: Cat, yeah and yeah, I don't remember.

1196
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: And this was that guy who's kind of gonna be

1197
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: famous and then never really was. Yes, I don't remember.

1198
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: I remember his name.

1199
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: It really that whole movie reminds me so much of Pocahontas.

1200
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: Like I watched Pocahontas again recently, and I was like,

1201
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is terrible. It's like the same

1202
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: shit with the complete with the tree that talks, you know.

1203
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: Like James Cameron just took Pocahontas interesting kind of. I

1204
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: never saw Pocahontas. I think I was just at the

1205
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: age I was like not really watching or going to

1206
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: theaters to see Disney movies anymore or something.

1207
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: Not it was. I watched it last time I was pregnant,

1208
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: and I sobbed and I was like also horrified. I

1209
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: was just like, this sucks. That should never have been made.

1210
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: I hate this so much. It's disgusting. But also it's like, well,

1211
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: part of this rings true to what happened, and that

1212
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: side is also terrible.

1213
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: Like but then it kind of I assume falls in

1214
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: love with the blonde guy.

1215
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he leaves her behind though or something

1216
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: in the movie. I think so.

1217
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he takes her to this With the

1218
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: reality of it, I think so. I don't know what

1219
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: the reality reality talking about here. The reality is way worse.

1220
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Much more rape and disease.

1221
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: Right, reality, there was no like fun raccoon no, no, obviously,

1222
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: no talking free No. Yeah was that the name of

1223
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 3: the raccoon?

1224
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: And no, that was the guy that she rejected.

1225
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: Okay, did the raccoon have a name, darling?

1226
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: He must have. Okay, so let's move on.

1227
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: I got so far off. That was as long as

1228
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: Avatot mind control.

1229
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: Then I mean it goes to Idris, mostly because because

1230
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: of I guess it's hard to explain, but he is.

1231
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: Hot, he's so how is that hard to I mean,

1232
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: he's one of the hottest people alive.

1233
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: But why should a hot person get Because yes, I

1234
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: did watch Luther. I loved Luther. It made me trust

1235
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: that actor as a person, which is not a good idea.

1236
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: Whenever you meet well, I don't want to be mean,

1237
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: but a lot of actors it's like, wow, your personality

1238
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: is nothing, there's nothing there there. Yeah, if you're a

1239
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: blank canvas, you're a very good actor, right, you.

1240
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: Do your job very well. Yeah, it's the reason a

1241
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 3: surgeon is not a soccer player.

1242
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: Right, But I still want to give him my control.

1243
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: I trust, so I do. I feel like there's a

1244
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: he's a good guy.

1245
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: I haven't heard a drop of bad.

1246
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 3: Unbelievably good looking, so hot, it could be given to

1247
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: uglier people, So why not give it to Adris?

1248
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you should have it because that's all

1249
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: I can come up is because he's hot.

1250
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: He was in Cats. I do trust him, right, I

1251
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: absolutely like one of the.

1252
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: Least despicable characters in that movie Cats.

1253
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 3: Right, right, right? I mean, I I remember very little

1254
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: about the film.

1255
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean too, I just remember. No, it's what's facing experience,

1256
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: not Dakota Johnson what's that woman's name?

1257
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: You're asking the wrong person. I do not know celebrity

1258
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: names that female comedian, Oh, Rebel Wilson. Will I remember

1259
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: Rebel Wilson. I forgot that she was in the Yeah,

1260
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: she was real disorienting experience. That was kind of the

1261
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: goal I felt.

1262
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, going into that movie, I was felt defensive because

1263
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: I spent my childhood loving the soundtrack so much, and

1264
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: everyone's like, this is crazy. I'm like, but yeah, didn't

1265
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: you see it though when we all saw it when

1266
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: it was the most popular musical.

1267
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a bonkers thing. It is.

1268
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: It is, and it's so funny to see it presented

1269
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: to people like it's a new thing in a bad movie,

1270
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: and everyone's like.

1271
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 3: Wow, did you enjoy the movie at all?

1272
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: No, I really didn't. I was annoyed the whole time.

1273
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: A lot of being annoyed.

1274
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is that was excellently played. That's essentially

1275
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: what I would have done too. I feel like you

1276
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: really nailed each one of those really lined up, And uh,

1277
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: I think it's time now for I Said no emails,

1278
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: the final okay segment of the podcast people write into

1279
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: I said no gifts at Gmail dot com desperate begging,

1280
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 3: I will say, sometimes pathetic. You know, these people are

1281
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: just clawing for answers.

1282
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no one else in their life. I

1283
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: got no turn.

1284
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: To, absolutely no one, and I have so many social

1285
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: issue social problems they've got going to parties or getting

1286
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 3: gifts or giving gifts, and so I swoop in, always

1287
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: kind of generous, and I drag the guests in to

1288
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: help answer a question too.

1289
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: I love giving advice.

1290
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 3: Okay, then let's give some advice. Let me. I've done

1291
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 3: something to my Google docs where it now just does

1292
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: not whatever's happened. Something's been zoomed or zoomed out or something,

1293
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: and it looks disorienting. So bear with me while I read. Okay,

1294
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: this says, hello, Bridger and guest. I am requesting help

1295
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: figuring out what to do for my boyfriend's birthday. I

1296
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: am turning thirty in October, and my boyfriend is planning

1297
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: a trip to NYC for me. My boyfriend turned thirty

1298
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 3: last year. However, the timing was soon before we had

1299
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 3: to he had we we had to take a professional exam.

1300
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 3: M interesting. Hopefully that's explained, because I'm confused. We had

1301
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: to take a professional exam, so he wanted to focus

1302
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: on studying and didn't want me to plan anything. Now

1303
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: this year, he keeps asking what I will do for

1304
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: his birthday since he's been doing a trip for mine

1305
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: and I didn't plan anything like that for him last year.

1306
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: We have neither the time nor the funds to also

1307
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: do a trip for him this year, and we don't

1308
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: know too many people in the city we currently live in,

1309
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: so it would be difficult to plan a party. Please help.

1310
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: And that's from just the initials h B so, hbh.

1311
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Speaker 2: B oh's their boyfriend big time?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's hear it.

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01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: Well, like their boyfriend is planning this big trip. Okay,

1314
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: and then they did nothing for their boyfriend the year before.

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01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't hear any remorse. Oh.

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01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: Maybe their love language is neglect, I guess.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so this is where I'm coming from. I'm

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: reading an email where this boyfriend has planned a trip

1320
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 3: and saying I'm giving you this gift. Look what I'm

1321
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: doing for you.

1322
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: Yes, and then you gave me nothing last year.

1323
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 3: Not only that, but then immediately saying I deserve a

1324
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: gift of equal or lesser, equal or greater value right soon.

1325
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: Maybe the only thing we know these two have apparently

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01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: done together is some sort of exam. We don't know

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: what it is. We don't know what they've gone on.

1328
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: One of them may have failed. We don't know where

1329
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 3: the tension is as far as that goes. But in

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: my opinion, this boyfriend, you don't give a gift and

1331
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: say what are you Yeah? No, no, no, no.

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: I agree, I absolutely agree. I don't play that at all.

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't play that. I don't say what are you

1334
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: getting from me? It's kind of on you what you're

1335
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: gonna do for you?

1336
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: Yes, that's like you show each other love and difference.

1337
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: And yes, exactly. It depends on whether you're good at

1338
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: giving gifts, whether it's your love language to give or

1339
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: get gifts. I in my relationship, it's a lot of

1340
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: me being like, I don't know, and my husband giving

1341
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: me something cool that I wasn't expecting. The ultimate it works.

1342
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: Out, But that's a hard thing to do.

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: It's a very hard thing to do. But I usually

1344
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: plan my party or trip or whatever. I never put

1345
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: that on someone.

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01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 3: That's so sweet of you, and you get it exactly

1347
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: what you want.

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: My own, Yeah, I'm like it sweet of me? It

1349
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: is sweet of myself to myself.

1350
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: To kind of just not expect anyone to do anything

1351
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, it is a little sad, though. It's

1352
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: a little sad.

1353
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: I think I've planned my own baby shower. Okay, this

1354
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: is getting dark sad. Yeah, but it is like, yeah,

1355
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: I want to do what I want to do. And

1356
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, right, we're all going to Palm Springs if

1357
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: you can splurge on your portion of the Airbnb grade.

1358
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: But if not a problem.

1359
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: So with HB. And now that we're talking about the

1360
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: trips and everything and the professional exam, I'm now wondering.

1361
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: The one exception I'll make here is if that professional

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: exam was for them to become travel agents. Yeah, and

1363
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: so maybe they're both qualified to plan trips.

1364
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like, what trip are you planning? Right,

1365
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: because yeah, we would assume that they know how to

1366
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: plan a trip using not that much money, because.

1367
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: Right, they get into the database where they're cutting corners

1368
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 3: and planning outings and the boyfriend's doing all of this.

1369
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 2: And they don't know anyone in their town.

1370
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: They don't know anyone, so they're also deeply unpopular. That's

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 3: another thing to remember about these.

1372
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: Friends they have no one. I mean, is your boyfriend

1373
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: going to be happy with being like, I'm taking you

1374
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: out to dinner?

1375
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's an impossible situation. The only other

1376
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 3: option if this man is demanding a trip, have to

1377
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 3: do a trip.

1378
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it seems like he's indirectly demanding a trip.

1379
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: And the I mean this is kind of like a

1380
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 3: they're really playing with fire financially here.

1381
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolute what this could ruin.

1382
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 3: There's no end to the trips.

1383
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: This could ruin them both two trips a year. How

1384
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 2: close together are the birthdays? So it sounds like they're

1385
01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: very do everything together apart going to New York together.

1386
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: And they're thirty, Yeah, they're thirty thirty well one of

1387
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: them's thirty.

1388
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we don't know the age of h B.

1389
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: HB could be anywhere between eighteen and ninety nine exactly.

1390
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 3: Don't get married after one hundred, I've I'm very much

1391
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: on record about that. That's true. That's those are your

1392
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 3: golden years and you want to just.

1393
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: Free to get married after your ninety nine Did you

1394
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: know that?

1395
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you need to be loose and free. Your

1396
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: hundreds are meant to be kind of a fun experimental.

1397
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, a single dying time.

1398
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: It's a dying so HB obviously, I mean, I think

1399
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 3: the only advice we can say is get on the

1400
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: travel agent yea dot com.

1401
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Or your own personal website, right, just hb's travel dot com,

1402
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: dot world, yes, dot world, dot gov.

1403
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 3: And you start typing in cities. What city though? I

1404
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: think something different than New York, something a little more so.

1405
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: They're going to New York for that expensive expensive How

1406
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: can we cut corners? Where can we go?

1407
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 3: Right? What's a cheap vacation? Same city?

1408
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: You could go to Grand Rapids written. I don't know

1409
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: why that.

1410
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: Comes from taking you to Grand rap.

1411
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be rude, but.

1412
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 3: Peep where you could have a nice, affordable vacation. There's

1413
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: probably some there's something to do in it.

1414
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: It must be a water feature in Grand.

1415
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: Rapp certainly, they've got so much snow it's melting image

1416
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: like a white rivers everywhere. Yeah, fall into a river

1417
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 3: if you're not careful.

1418
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah for yeah, whitewater rafting tour in Grand rapt Is Grapes.

1419
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: Well, we got there. I mean you basically got there.

1420
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 3: You should be the travel agent, Yeah, I should.

1421
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: I should be taking exams, professional exams.

1422
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: With your husband boyfriend. I guess uh okay, so HB,

1423
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 3: you've gotten the perfect advice. Whitewater raft through Grand Rapids.

1424
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: Obviously winter, it's probably gonna take place in the deep winter.

1425
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be freezing cold.

1426
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, you'll be able to find a hotel. Yeah,

1427
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: there's no one. No one's going to be there.

1428
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: No one will be there, just you and the tour guide.

1429
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: Off season, yeah, per fut rate.

1430
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: I love going places off season, especially somewhere like Grand

1431
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 2: rep Yeah. Have you ever been to like Palm Springs

1432
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 2: in the dead of summer?

1433
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: I have, when it's about one hundred and twenty degrees.

1434
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred and fifteen. And you're like, but it was.

1435
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 3: Cheap that the eight Almost every restaurant is closed.

1436
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: No one's outdoors. It's like being on a hunted crew,

1437
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: only swim after.

1438
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 3: I know that. Feeling very well, I actually don't mind it.

1439
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't either.

1440
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 3: If you can, if you can game the system and

1441
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 3: just except that you're going to be sweltering, yeah, and

1442
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,440
Speaker 3: put an on and off sunscreen.

1443
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go outside barefoot. You'll be fine. Yeah.

1444
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: It's a little sneak peak of what we'll all be

1445
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: dealing with in ten to fifteen years. Training exactly. It's training,

1446
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 3: it's absolutely training. Well, I think we answered so perfectly.

1447
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 3: We don't have to answer another question. I don't think

1448
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,560
Speaker 3: HB is off to grand rapids.

1449
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: Taken care of in the perfect relationship, with the perfect

1450
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,520
Speaker 2: vacations and the best birthdays.

1451
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 3: Oh and I am now saying we have we don't

1452
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: have the time or funds to do a trip for

1453
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,919
Speaker 3: him this year, but we gave a discount.

1454
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, we did.

1455
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 3: It's you, I mean, HB, you have to accept your

1456
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 3: spend some money. Yeah, just we're not getting away with

1457
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: a free gift.

1458
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: What else is there other than spending money? I just

1459
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 2: can't think of anything else.

1460
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean you're I mean, you're speaking this boyfriend's language.

1461
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: Yes, that's his language is trips. Look what so you're

1462
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 2: going on a trip.

1463
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 3: Enjoy those vacations, HB and Kelly. I now have kind

1464
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 3: of my own little trip to old fashioned Buffalo through

1465
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: this puzzle. I mean, we're very clear that this is

1466
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: not Buffalo. But I'm going to edge and but this

1467
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: is Buffalo. When right after Thanksgiving rolls around night of Thanksgiving,

1468
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 3: I'm going to crack open Terry's piece of art.

1469
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: That's right before you go to the Black Friday sales.

1470
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 3: Right in line in my tents outside of Cole's. Yes,

1471
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: I break out a puzzle and they it'll probably take over.

1472
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: I'll miss the sales, yeah, but I'll be so cozy. Good.

1473
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: I've had a wonderful time with you here, and this

1474
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: has been this has been wonderful. Actually, I'm not gonna

1475
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: apologize it can I've got to. I've got to hit

1476
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: the brakes. I apologize. It's enough.

1477
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Over, we did it.

1478
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for being here.

1479
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for making me not feel as embarrassed about

1480
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:41,919
Speaker 2: being pregnant.

1481
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: Listener, you have nothing to be embarrassed about. You should

1482
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 3: be proud. You've been listening to the podcast. You've had

1483
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 3: the time of your life, and now go take that

1484
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 3: information in the world. Tell somebody of what a wonderful

1485
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: time you had. This is uh to swipe a phrase

1486
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: from Terry Redland America's most popular podcast. Let's make it

1487
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: America's most popular podcast. Go bother your coworker about it

1488
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 3: and tell them what a cozy time you had. Or

1489
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 3: don't do whatever you want with your day and we'll

1490
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: talk again soon. I love you goodbye, I said, No

1491
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our

1492
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: dear friend Analise Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley.

1493
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,879
Speaker 3: The theme song, of course, could only come from Miracle

1494
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: Worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram.

1495
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: At I said no gifts, I don't want to hear

1496
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of

1497
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 3: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want

1498
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: to see pictures of the gifts? Invit?

1499
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 2: Did you hear.

1500
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: Fun a man?

1501
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? But you're a guess, Tom. You gotta

1502
01:14:54,680 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: come to me empty And I said, no good, it's

1503
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

1504
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbe me