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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland.

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Speaker 2: The after Party.

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Speaker 1: Who Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode little thing we'd

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Speaker 1: like to call the after Party. This is the show

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Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party. The bridge

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Speaker 1: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to

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Speaker 1: the other, the backyard, dig into the dirt. On this episode,

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Speaker 1: we are talking about the past episode of Disgraceland on

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Speaker 1: the Mamas and the Papas Mama Cass Elliott, and specifically

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Speaker 1: Charles Manson. We're also discussing dying on stage literally cover

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Speaker 1: songs that are better than You originals Alfred Hitchcock, Martin Scorsese,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen, and as usual, a whole.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get into listener calls, texts and emails,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Cass Elliott or Mama Cass Elliott,

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Speaker 1: her friends aka Hollywood's den mother was the subject of

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Speaker 1: More on that later, but rather because of Cass Elliott's

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Speaker 1: because of an anecdote I read in the book Chaos

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Speaker 1: our last bonus episode. O'Neill got to this story about

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Speaker 1: When I did track it down, it was not cheap. Now,

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Speaker 1: So a little more digging into Mama Cass's life, and

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Speaker 1: bing Crosby's Christmas Classics. You can't miss with that record,

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Speaker 1: Ella Fitzgerald's Swinging Christmas. I'll reveal more of my Christmas

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Speaker 1: the lookout for great Christmas music, so send me your recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Send them through at Disgrace lam Pod to all the

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Speaker 1: the next bonus episode, but for right now, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: episodes right after this all Right discos. This brings another

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Speaker 1: bonus episode of Disgrace Slam to an end. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening. Next up, Part two on the Mamas and

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Speaker 1: the papas Mama Cass Elliott and the thorough Disruption of

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Speaker 1: the Helter Skelter Motive via Tom O'Neil. Thank you Tom.

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Speaker 1: So you guys have a safe rest of your week,

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