Speaker 1: Cool Zon Media. This is it could happen here. I'm
Speaker 1: Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by Mia Wong. I am
Speaker 1: reporting from the beautiful and sunny People's Republic of New
Speaker 1: York City, and we are Zoe back. It is Clover
Speaker 1: Dimes Squares on suicide Watch. Zomentum is sweeping the nation.
Speaker 1: Zoramum Donnie has won the Democratic primary for the mayor
Speaker 1: of New York City, beating veterans sexual harasser Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1: It was it was quite a night in New York
Speaker 1: last night. We are recording this Wednesday morning. The final
Speaker 1: ranked vote will be done in about a week, but
Speaker 1: Cuomo has conceded the race to Zoron, who has declared
Speaker 1: a pretty decisive victory.
Speaker 2: It's been very funny. Seeing the dashing and weeping of
Speaker 2: the Quotmo camp has been very funny. New York has
Speaker 2: officially been upgreen from a Tier two to a Tier
Speaker 2: one point five Chinese city. Given give it another decade,
Speaker 2: it'll it will have entered Chinese civilization. The vibes are good.
Speaker 2: The vibes are good well.
Speaker 1: The only difference is that now we will have an
Speaker 1: actually communist government in a city instead of the fake
Speaker 1: state capitalist governments of the Chinese mega.
Speaker 2: City objectively more Communists to one point five Chinese city government.
Speaker 1: An American bogeeli Uh. It was. It was a pretty
Speaker 1: exciting night in New York last night. I and many
Speaker 1: people were not expecting a clear result so soon. I
Speaker 1: think Cuomo conceded around ten to thirty as the vote
Speaker 1: was still coming in, but it was pretty clear that
Speaker 1: Zoron did a like very very impressive, very impressive sweep,
Speaker 1: really solid turnout across the boroughs. Just to like get
Speaker 1: a sense of like where we were at, Like I
Speaker 1: got to announce to of a pretty a pretty large
Speaker 1: room full of trans people at the Metropolitan Bar that
Speaker 1: Cuomo conceded to Zoron, and Zoron has won. And I
Speaker 1: had not felt better in months. It was really invigorating.
Speaker 1: This was like the first like ray of hope in
Speaker 1: a political sense that I've that that it's been like
Speaker 1: so deeply felt nothing ever happens, camp is is is
Speaker 1: finally finally taking it. So jover for nothing ever happens.
Speaker 1: The shear, the sheer like joy and excitement being in
Speaker 1: like a room of like one hundred, one hundred queer people,
Speaker 1: as as as Cuomo gets defeated and Zoron securing the primary.
Speaker 1: It was it was just invigorating. In many ways, this
Speaker 1: feels a lot bigger than even like AOC's win a
Speaker 1: few years ago. And it feels so much more real
Speaker 1: than like the Sanders campaign really ever did, because New
Speaker 1: York is such as like a it's such a condensed,
Speaker 1: concentrated area. Now it has not quite like an inevitability,
Speaker 1: but of a pretty strong certainty of what's going to
Speaker 1: happen come November in the general election.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the thing that's maybe in some
Speaker 2: ways the biggest deal about this is that New York
Speaker 2: was like the capital of the giant sort of right
Speaker 2: wing backlash inside the Democratic Party to twenty twenty Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: Like this is the city that elected Eric Adams in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Right, Like it just straight up a cop is ruled
Speaker 1: for like four years by just like.
Speaker 2: This unhinged corrupt alliance of like fucking real estate developers
Speaker 2: and like unhinged right wing billionaires and the cops who
Speaker 2: ran this really really effective sort of politics of like
Speaker 2: the demonization of unhoused people and like anti immigrant politics
Speaker 2: and the shift right in this in the Neu Democratic
Speaker 2: Party like single handedly shifted the entire country to the right.
Speaker 2: You could literally see where the New York media market
Speaker 2: was in the twenty twenty two elections. You could see
Speaker 2: on them map who was getting the news because it
Speaker 2: was so right wing. And that's just broken, that whole thing,
Speaker 2: Like this place was just like which was like the
Speaker 2: capital of the kind of revolution broke and that whole
Speaker 2: tide like you can it's you know, in the same
Speaker 2: way that like Hunters Thompson talked about how you could
Speaker 2: see like you could see them with the tide of
Speaker 2: the sixties broke standing in Vegas, Like sitting here right now,
Speaker 2: you can see the place where the tide of that
Speaker 2: right wing surge in New York broke. And it was
Speaker 2: last night we saw their high points. Yeah, they couldn't
Speaker 2: elect the fucking sexual predator. That was as far as
Speaker 2: they could go.
Speaker 1: A Cuomo too, Like, like I know some people are
Speaker 1: slightly annoyed about like the outsized influence of the New
Speaker 1: York mayoral election affecting everybody who's like online and cares
Speaker 1: about politics in the United States and even and even abroad.
Speaker 1: But this is like not not only as New York,
Speaker 1: like the biggest city in the country. This is like
Speaker 1: more so a representative battle for the future of the party,
Speaker 1: and like what the future of democratic politics, not just
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party but literally like like democracies and like
Speaker 1: what the future of politics in this country is going
Speaker 1: to be is kind of emblematic over how this race went.
Speaker 1: Are we going to go back to the same old
Speaker 1: establishment dem Party stuff, Clinton's Cuomos, Obama, Biden Harris or
Speaker 1: are we actually going to legitimately chart a new course
Speaker 1: forward to counter this fascist element taking power across the
Speaker 1: country and against nearly all odds, and like thirty million dollars,
Speaker 1: the underdogs actually would and pulled it off really strongly,
Speaker 1: and this really is like the battle for the future
Speaker 1: of the party. Early turnout was massive for this primary.
Speaker 1: In the final three days of early voting, we saw
Speaker 1: like the youngest demographic of voters come out in high
Speaker 1: high numbers. One quarter of early voters were first time
Speaker 1: Democratic primary participants, and young voters between the ages of
Speaker 1: twenty five and thirty four made up the largest share
Speaker 1: of early turnout. And this was all up against the
Speaker 1: entire forces of the Democratic Party establishment coming together in
Speaker 1: the past few months, just specifically to stop Mamdanni from
Speaker 1: taking the primary election. There was twenty five million dollars
Speaker 1: of super pac funding behind Entrew Cuomo, which is the
Speaker 1: largest in New York City mayoral history. This pack was
Speaker 1: backed by Michael Bloomberg, Door Dash, Bill Ackman Trump funder,
Speaker 1: and this pack allowed Cuomo backers to spend three times
Speaker 1: as much money than what Quomo's actual campaign legally can.
Speaker 1: In comparison, Mamdannie's pack had just one point two million
Speaker 1: dollars plus five hundred thousand in anti Cuomo spending from
Speaker 1: the Working Families Party. In an attempt to seal the deal,
Speaker 1: the Cuomo team got the coveted Bill Clinton endorsement, really
Speaker 1: really forming like the toucher's alliance with Cuomo.
Speaker 2: And Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, there's world more sex
Speaker 2: pest for you to endorse.
Speaker 1: It's time for you to endorse Donald Trump. What moral
Speaker 1: job like that? That really was like emblematic of like
Speaker 1: the type of Democratic party that Mamdanie was up against,
Speaker 1: right and the one that working people of New York
Speaker 1: and people around the country we're hoping might finally get
Speaker 1: defeated after it's won one over on Sanders for the
Speaker 1: past like eight years, and last night it finally happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also want to say, like, this is
Speaker 2: not just when we're talking about the sort of political
Speaker 2: apparatus of the Democratic Party being deployed in support of Cuomo.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just like the DoorDash guys like bringing out
Speaker 2: their checkbook. It was like the actual internal political machines
Speaker 2: of a whole bunch of very very important and influential
Speaker 2: local and sort of mid level political officials, through their
Speaker 2: entire political machines behind Cuomo and then got fucking rolled
Speaker 2: in ways that are just absolutely hysterical. Entire political machines
Speaker 2: basically just got annihilated trying to stop this. It was
Speaker 2: It reminds me in a lot of ways of like
Speaker 2: the way that like a bunch of the old machines
Speaker 2: broke in in Chicago with with Brandon Johnson were like
Speaker 2: you wed like Mike Madigan making one last appearance the
Speaker 2: most powerful figure in Illinois politics for thirty years and
Speaker 2: just gets crushed in that election. So this was both
Speaker 2: a money efforts and a were using your political machines
Speaker 2: on the ground to try to do this, and they
Speaker 2: fucking lost.
Speaker 1: And it rules there were photo shopping images of Zoron
Speaker 1: to make him look more brown and Muslim. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were making his beard longer, they were making his skin
Speaker 1: and his hairy darker. Like, they were pulling out all
Speaker 1: the stops and it didn't work.
Speaker 2: It was a Clinton two thousand and eight, like Barack
Speaker 2: Hussein Obama, like burther conspiracy shit. Yeah, like, that's the
Speaker 2: last time I remember this party being this racist, like
Speaker 2: very specifically in these lines.
Speaker 1: And it failed, and it didn't work. It failed. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about some of the actual results and Zorn's campaign
Speaker 1: itself after this break. All Right, we are back. It's
Speaker 1: a beautiful sunny day in New York. It's actually way
Speaker 1: too hot. There's a massive heat wave going through the
Speaker 1: entire East coast. New York has been like one hundred
Speaker 1: degrees the past few days. Thank god, it was one
Speaker 1: hundred degrees on the day of the election. It kept
Speaker 1: all those Cuomo supporters home. We're calling him Mandate of Heaven,
Speaker 1: Mandani good stuff. So let's let's let's talk about the
Speaker 1: actual results so far. So as of as of this morning,
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, we got ninety three percent of the vote
Speaker 1: in on the first rank. Mundanni has forty three point
Speaker 1: five percent versus Cuomo's thirty six point four and zorn
Speaker 1: Ally brad Lander with eleven point three, followed by a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of others. Now, really, as soon as like
Speaker 1: numbers started coming in, like after the early vote, which
Speaker 1: which we expected Woul would lean in favor of Zoran,
Speaker 1: but after more and more results started coming in, Manhattan
Speaker 1: started to looking more and more orange. And that's the
Speaker 1: that's color at the times as using for Zoron. And
Speaker 1: this was the first like sign for me that Zora
Speaker 1: might be having a pretty good night, because people were
Speaker 1: expecting that you know, pretty big chunks of Manhattan and
Speaker 1: certainly like Staten Island in the Bronx would be would
Speaker 1: be going towards Cuomo decisively or at least if this
Speaker 1: if this was going to be Cumba's night, that's what
Speaker 1: we would be seeing. And that's not what happened. The
Speaker 1: northern tip of Staten Island leaning towards Mom Donnie, and
Speaker 1: really most of Manhattan except for the upper west side
Speaker 1: and the upper east side went to Zoron. And that
Speaker 1: is like super super I guess, like surprising, but like
Speaker 1: positive surprise, like surprisingly, this is this is like this
Speaker 1: is great. Yeah, like a really really strong night. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the most interesting trends of this was that
Speaker 2: Mondommy just just absolutely annihilated like every Asian district up
Speaker 2: up fifteen, up fifteen and not Okay, so you would
Speaker 2: kind of expect this in South Asian districts. He went
Speaker 2: into a bunch of what are generally pretty conservative, like
Speaker 2: like Chinese districts and like Queens and shit, and just
Speaker 2: fucking rolled them. Yeah, like in like South Brooklyn, like
Speaker 2: a very very powerful sort of like right wing Chinese
Speaker 2: political machine like went to war against them, just annihilated.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The Asian vote in general had kind of been trending
Speaker 2: right in the last half a decade based on sort
Speaker 2: of like anti immigrant shit, anti homeless shit and all
Speaker 2: of that, just like instantly pivoted.
Speaker 1: Everything's out. The astoria in Queens just just full full
Speaker 1: zor on. Yeah, and like just rolled these districts.
Speaker 2: And I think this is a thing where I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk more about the ice stuff later, but
Speaker 2: I genuinely think part of what we're starting to see
Speaker 2: here is like.
Speaker 1: Brad Lander, who and the MVP brad Lander honestly like
Speaker 1: like a critical part of this who knows to him
Speaker 1: like absolutely, Like we certainly have different opinions on some
Speaker 1: key issues, but he really pulled out the stops to
Speaker 1: make sure that Cuomo does not get in and helped
Speaker 1: Mamdanni defend against some pretty pretty horrific yeah is homophobic attacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, and that alliance I think was actually
Speaker 2: was really really important because it meant that the kind
Speaker 2: of like left flank of the liberals and the progressives
Speaker 2: and sort of social democrats weren't fighting each other, which
Speaker 2: has been what's happening in like fucking every other city. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is that these two factions go to war and then
Speaker 2: like just the fucking sex predators win the election because
Speaker 2: of it, and shere you get a very very important
Speaker 2: strategic alliance that allows a bunch of people to vote
Speaker 2: for Mamdanni who wouldn't have And this, this sort of
Speaker 2: alliance that they've forged here was just like stunningly successful,
Speaker 2: basically like outperformed expectations basically everywhere. I think this is
Speaker 2: also a kind of decisive anti ICE thing because both
Speaker 2: Mamdanni and have been actually straight up on the front
Speaker 2: lines of like anti I stuff. Lander famously got arrested
Speaker 2: for trying to get in the way of a just
Speaker 2: hideously illegal disappearance of one of his constituents and got
Speaker 2: fucking arrested for it. And I think that stuff we're
Speaker 2: seeing the political impacts of everyone being like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: they're trying to deport like every no migration in this country.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Madanni up six points with the Hispanic up five
Speaker 1: with white plus fifteen Asian. Quomo is up eighteen percent
Speaker 1: with the black vote, and Quomo like underperformed there too,
Speaker 1: he did underperform.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One thing that's interesting is the medium income levels. Mamdani
Speaker 1: did better with middle class and high income vote middle
Speaker 1: class up ten, high income up thirteen, whereas Cuomo did
Speaker 1: better up thirteen with lower income, which I mean, this
Speaker 1: is like some classic We see this a lot in
Speaker 1: like national elections, where like people vote against their own interests.
Speaker 1: This is weird. This is like what the Republican Party
Speaker 1: gets so much of their support from. So this is
Speaker 1: also like education bracket difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think some of it also is like
Speaker 2: a lot of the voters who would have voted vandor
Speaker 2: and would not have supported Mamdani, like were given permission
Speaker 2: to back him, and that boosted his vote share.
Speaker 1: A lot, Yes, but like in terms of like why
Speaker 1: lower income is swinging towards Cuomo. Yeah, specifically people making
Speaker 1: under fifty k year swinging more towards Cuomo, even though
Speaker 1: Zoran is running a campaign specifically for those people. That
Speaker 1: is also largely up in the Bronx.
Speaker 2: I will also say, like, the other thing that's very
Speaker 2: weird about the way these are tabulated is because it's
Speaker 2: it's tabulated by area, not by the actual people, yes, correct,
Speaker 2: which means you can get these things where like you
Speaker 2: see this Trump sometimes where like it looks like he's
Speaker 2: doing really well in like.
Speaker 1: A district with like a really with like really low.
Speaker 2: Median income, But what's happening is like every single rich
Speaker 2: person in that district voted and then no one else did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So the numbers are a bit weird when when when
Speaker 2: you're looking at these sort of like priestin counts. Yeah, votes,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's it's been a I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: a it is a constant trend in the bar Oho.
Speaker 2: I guess this is everything that was actually very very
Speaker 2: different from Chicago, where in Chicago it was like basically
Speaker 2: pure income line for Brandon Johnson, the sort of like
Speaker 2: vaguely left person.
Speaker 1: There is like New York is a very like middle
Speaker 1: class city in a lot of ways, Like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people in the middle class bracket, a lot
Speaker 1: of people in the lower class bracket as well, but
Speaker 1: in terms of like like medium income levels, there's like
Speaker 1: a huge, huge number of like middle class voters. Specifically,
Speaker 1: like the vote map for the for the middle income
Speaker 1: is so much bigger. I think it is worth highlighting
Speaker 1: what made Zorn's campaign special, right, Like people are probably
Speaker 1: pretty familiar with like the slick videos, which, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was really good at making videos. He is a great communicator,
Speaker 1: probably his biggest, biggest strength is his ability to be
Speaker 1: like personable and is of just a pretty good public speakers,
Speaker 1: great at communication. His mom's a relatively well known filmmaker,
Speaker 1: and not super surprising that he put he put a
Speaker 1: lot of work into making sure his like online tv
Speaker 1: as were like top notch. One of the more unique
Speaker 1: things that he did is a huge focus on multi
Speaker 1: language outreach, which like, obviously New York is a city
Speaker 1: of like dozens and dozens and dozens of languages, and
Speaker 1: the Quoto campaign did not focus on that, but This
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge focus of Zoron's campaign. Like when
Speaker 1: you signed up for phone banking, you got to go
Speaker 1: through a massive drop down menu of languages to phone banking,
Speaker 1: and Zoron himself was like speaking multiple languages. On the
Speaker 1: campaign trail, he had a huge, huge volunteer ground game.
Speaker 1: It was canvassing door Knox phone banking. My apartment had
Speaker 1: people stop in multiple times in the past week alone.
Speaker 1: The biggest focus of his campaign itself was a focus
Speaker 1: on affordability. I want to Play a ad that started
Speaker 1: running on TV and online about two weeks ago. This
Speaker 1: is one of his less personal ads, right like as
Speaker 1: opposed to his ads where he's like walking around New
Speaker 1: York talking to people, like addressing straight to camera, that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, which is kind of in the staple
Speaker 1: of his campaign. So like this ad is not that
Speaker 1: it is more like a classic political ad, but I
Speaker 1: think it still hits really hard. And like this this
Speaker 1: one like kind of brain wormed itself into my head
Speaker 1: because of how like concise it is, and it hits
Speaker 1: so many things that even because of like the last
Speaker 1: like general election, right like the twenty twenty four presidential
Speaker 1: it reflects the things that a lot of voters are
Speaker 1: concerned about which is affordability, even if that means they
Speaker 1: will vote against their interests and vote in support of
Speaker 1: these like crazy tariffs. But I'm going to play this
Speaker 1: thirty second ad here. There is a myth about this city.
Speaker 3: It's the lie that life has to be hard in
Speaker 3: New York. I believe we can dare tchep for groceries,
Speaker 3: we can raise the minimum wage, we can freeze the
Speaker 3: rent for more than two million tenants and build hundreds
Speaker 3: of thousands of affordable homes. It city government's job to
Speaker 3: deliver that. We are done settling for less. Are you
Speaker 3: ready for.
Speaker 1: A city we can afford? A witness? Right? Do you
Speaker 1: posy rendering licens? So that was the main app that's
Speaker 1: been going across TV the past two weeks. This is
Speaker 1: this is his like final final push, and it addresses
Speaker 1: this like a conception of New York that's definitely been
Speaker 1: in my mind ever since I was a kid. I
Speaker 1: always thought, this is a city you can only live
Speaker 1: in if you're you know, very rich, if you're well off,
Speaker 1: and like, upon visiting here for the first time, I
Speaker 1: just realized how much that isn't true, how much this
Speaker 1: is like actually a working class city. How many people
Speaker 1: keep this massive like concrete machine running who do not
Speaker 1: live in like a Manhattan penthouse. Obviously, and yes it
Speaker 1: can be challenging, but we've like almost abandoned this place
Speaker 1: as like a zone of combat, as like a place
Speaker 1: to actually like build like an affordable, an affordable, stable life.
Speaker 1: And to see a candidate just directly address this is
Speaker 1: so invigorating. He ran on freezing the rent free buses,
Speaker 1: a pilot program for city run grocery stores, free to
Speaker 1: low cost childcare, raising minimum wage, and he didn't cave
Speaker 1: or waiver on controversial issues or apologize or redact for
Speaker 1: past statements. He got really good at deflecting when people
Speaker 1: asked him about like previous statements about how you know,
Speaker 1: the NYPD is terrible. He did really good about moving
Speaker 1: towards talking about how NYPD should not be handling people
Speaker 1: in like mental health crises, how there should be other
Speaker 1: public safety workers who can help people in distress who
Speaker 1: are not the NYPD, and just a very very slick
Speaker 1: job handling some like massive massive amounts of anti woke attacks,
Speaker 1: referencing like the twenty twenty era of politics. Let's go
Speaker 1: on a break and then talk about his acceptance speech
Speaker 1: and the reaction from the National Democrat and Republican parties. Okay,
Speaker 1: we are so back. So the past few months, Democrats
Speaker 1: have been asking this question like, how do we how
Speaker 1: do we reach young voters, how do we reach the
Speaker 1: young white to male vote. We need like a Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan of the left, all these types of crazy things.
Speaker 1: And you had this guy Zorrod who started to get
Speaker 1: massively popular with young people, including young young men, and
Speaker 1: that you saw this entire party mobilized to stop him,
Speaker 1: to suppress any any movement that Zorna was able to make.
Speaker 1: And David Hogg, who is currently also being rat fucked
Speaker 1: by the Democratic National Committee, has been campaigning with zor
Speaker 1: On the past few weeks and he he said a
Speaker 1: few days ago, quote, the same establishment that is spending
Speaker 1: millions to destroy Zoron will say in a few months
Speaker 1: that we need to spend millions on polling and testing
Speaker 1: to win back young people. Open your goddamn eyes. It's free.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's right, this is the solution. The solution
Speaker 1: is staring them in the face, and they were wanting
Speaker 1: to stop it.
Speaker 2: Ye, young people are begging you to co opt them,
Speaker 2: and they won't do it because they know what they
Speaker 2: would rather have Nazis and one percent higher taxes.
Speaker 1: They want to be co opted and like actually fight
Speaker 1: for something, like actually have something to strive for, and
Speaker 1: like that's something that the Democrats have been so resistant
Speaker 1: to the past eight years. Like even even Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: campaign wasn't like fighting for anything, it was to like
Speaker 1: return to normal. Kruml Heris's campaign wasn't really fighting for
Speaker 1: anything either. It was just to stop Donald Trump. And
Speaker 1: this is like this campaign wasn't just about beating Cuomo.
Speaker 1: It was also about like envisioning an actually positive future
Speaker 1: of the city. And I was legitimately surprised that Cuomo
Speaker 1: can seated so early on in his speech he said, quote,
Speaker 1: tonight was not our night, Tonight is his night. He
Speaker 1: deserved it. He won. And from the moves that Quem
Speaker 1: was making, it seems like he's probably not gonna run
Speaker 1: as an independent in the general like he maybe have
Speaker 1: been planning to if it was closer. It does not
Speaker 1: seem to be going that direction. It seems like he's
Speaker 1: kind of realized that his career is finished. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got rolled go back to the suburbs. Motherfucker Ugh Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer called soron Wednesday morning and posted quote, I've known
Speaker 1: Zora Mamdannni since we were together to provide a debt
Speaker 1: relief for thousands of leaguered taxi drivers and fought to
Speaker 1: stop a fract gas plant in a Storia. He ran
Speaker 1: an impressive campaign that connected with New Yorkers about affordability, fairness,
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I spoke with him this morning and I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting together soon. Alkim Jeffries said, congratulations
Speaker 1: is Zar Mumdani on a decisive primary victory. As having
Speaker 1: been Mumdannie ran a strong campaign that relentles focused on
Speaker 1: the economy and bringing down the high cost of living
Speaker 1: in New York City. We spoke this morning and planned
Speaker 1: to meet in central Brooklyn shortly. The top dogs are
Speaker 1: bowing down.
Speaker 2: All these Chuck sub retreats are just straight up please
Speaker 2: don't primary me, because AOC is going to beat him
Speaker 2: by thirty.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get primary like he's done to obliterated. But
Speaker 1: I was expecting slightly more resistance, and it seems like
Speaker 1: parts of the Democrats have like realized that this actually
Speaker 1: is the future of the party now and there's no
Speaker 1: use fighting anymore. This is the way to go. Yes,
Speaker 1: it goes against what all like the consultants are saying
Speaker 1: right to be like, you know, the Democrats went too woke,
Speaker 1: we went too far to the left. We have to
Speaker 1: return to the center. Even though that's what we've been
Speaker 1: doing for the Democratic Party for eight years. This election
Speaker 1: shows how much of that is like a complete bullshit
Speaker 1: lie that no, it's not about going too far left,
Speaker 1: it's about actually wanting to fight for something real. And
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised that these these two top dogs
Speaker 1: are giving in to the zmentum. I think also, and
Speaker 1: this is the thing, like my friends brought up, is
Speaker 1: that like mom.
Speaker 2: Downy like isn't really like AOC no, no, no.
Speaker 1: This is something like very very important for like New
Speaker 1: York politics, which is like he's.
Speaker 2: Not like like obviously politically he is, but like he's
Speaker 2: not a complete outsider to New York politics. All these
Speaker 2: people know him, they know him from like legislative shit right,
Speaker 2: and he has like relationships with them in a way
Speaker 2: that would be very very different if if he was
Speaker 2: like I don't know, just like some like a complete
Speaker 2: outsider who'd been like a protest leader or whatever.
Speaker 1: He has. He has proven himself.
Speaker 2: He has like tense relations but like yeah, but like
Speaker 2: he like these people know him, and that's something that
Speaker 2: can matter a lot in terms of like how these
Speaker 2: reactions play out and in terms of like how desperate
Speaker 2: they are to stop him.
Speaker 1: The Attorney General of New York was making like Obama
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight references, being like this, this was
Speaker 1: the energy in New York last night, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: around for the two thousand and eight residential election. I
Speaker 1: mean I was alive. I just don't remember because I
Speaker 1: was also in Canada. But it did feel pretty exuberant
Speaker 1: last night walking around Brooklyn. And like this absolutely still
Speaker 1: is like a rejection of the Democratic Party establishment. That's
Speaker 1: what these results show. And we have to like claim
Speaker 1: a firm victory now, like hard line with with with
Speaker 1: such a strong fist that like any potential fuckery in
Speaker 1: the future, whether it's from like other Dems or from
Speaker 1: the Republicans like from Trump right, like they're obviously willing
Speaker 1: to arrest the New York City Controller, so like any
Speaker 1: potential fuckery needs to look so much worse. People have
Speaker 1: to close ranks around zoror On like immediately and like
Speaker 1: strengthen him. He needs to be like the face, Like
Speaker 1: if they're going to take this guy down, he needs
Speaker 1: to be like the face of everything. For like the
Speaker 1: next while, we're sort of seeing like slightly smaller sharks,
Speaker 1: like trailing around the wake of the shark. Like you
Speaker 1: were talking about the Democratic co turreying General Leatitia James,
Speaker 1: who gave a really really compelling speech, like I actually
Speaker 1: think she's like a better speaker than any of the
Speaker 1: people involved in this race.
Speaker 2: And she is like she is one hundred percent primary
Speaker 2: in the governor, like not one hundred percent, but like
Speaker 2: probably primary in the governor next year. Like this is
Speaker 2: you know, like people, people are sort of people have
Speaker 2: been flocking around this for a while and I think,
Speaker 2: I don't know this is this is some real doesn't
Speaker 2: take a weatherman to see which way the winds are blowing.
Speaker 2: Shit Like they are, Yeah, they are, they are, they
Speaker 2: are living in fear, they are they are bending the knee,
Speaker 2: they are et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Very funny, And now the Republican Party is going to
Speaker 1: be on the attack. The baton's being passed from establishment
Speaker 1: Dems to the Republicans to try to take down Zoron,
Speaker 1: or at least paint Zoron as this new like radical
Speaker 1: face of the Democratic Party, like like racism levels are
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna reach never before seen heights. It's going
Speaker 1: to be like Post nine to eleven all over again.
Speaker 1: The National Republican Congression Committee is already calling Zoron the
Speaker 1: new face of the Democratic Party, which yeah, he should be.
Speaker 1: That's like fucking bring it if you want, just like
Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air, I would recommend watching some
Speaker 1: financial news from from Wednesday morning. Oh it's so good.
Speaker 2: Hot Commy Summer, Baby, Hot Commy Summer.
Speaker 1: Who I Am? Executions in Central Park are about to begin.
Speaker 2: The Workers Republic is established, the Commonwealth of Labor rules.
Speaker 1: We're waiting for Chairman Madani to make the final call.
Speaker 1: Lists are being made. Only you can ford the Soviets
Speaker 1: seize your workplaces at the time is now. I don't
Speaker 1: want to play a brief click from c NBC. If
Speaker 1: you've seen where what Batman is up against in Gotham
Speaker 1: and what the guy running for mayor is up against,
Speaker 1: that's what it reminds you of. They're taking Wall streeters
Speaker 1: and make him walk out onto the ice in the
Speaker 1: East River as and hope and then they fall through.
Speaker 1: I mean there is a class warfare. That's so what's
Speaker 1: happened here? I think it's a rich type. There's a
Speaker 1: division within the Demo. Whoa, that's right, there is a division.
Speaker 2: Long live the revelation, baby.
Speaker 1: Eat the wretch. There is a division of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Walk them out onto the ice. We're sending him onto
Speaker 1: the ice is all on hand in hand with the
Speaker 1: Bain and Chilly and Murphy are gonna be sending them
Speaker 1: on to the hunts and the spirit of occupy lives.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Bill Ackman Cromo and Trump Backer said quote,
Speaker 1: I was a bit depressed when I woke up this morning,
Speaker 1: but now I'm optimistic. I have a great idea on
Speaker 1: New York City, and I will share it as soon
Speaker 1: as I can. We are looking into legal issues. Good luck,
Speaker 1: good luck, Bill, have fun out there. Oh no, they're good.
Speaker 1: Wait this is they're just gonna do perspers again. Who cares?
Speaker 2: Oh no, bring it, bring it. I will say like
Speaker 2: this this coverage, like I like, people don't understand how
Speaker 2: one Hinges coverage is going to be like in Chicago
Speaker 2: when when when Brandon Johnson won the election, Brandon Johnson
Speaker 2: is like significantly to.
Speaker 1: The right, yeah of mom, Donnie.
Speaker 2: Right when Brandon Johnson won the election, the Chicago press
Speaker 2: went so insane that all of them pretended to be
Speaker 2: pro immigrants. Oh yeah, Like do you understand how unhinged
Speaker 2: the press has to get here, because like like one
Speaker 2: of Johnson thinks that he was like fucking over like
Speaker 2: immigrants here and he was like this immigrant the shelters
Speaker 2: are putting put in where substandard and people are getting sick,
Speaker 2: and like we had the best coverage of immigration issues
Speaker 2: under Biden in the country because specifically that was the
Speaker 2: thing the reason to attack him.
Speaker 1: I'm super curious what The Times is gonna do because
Speaker 1: like they've also pulled out all the stops the past
Speaker 1: the past few weeks to try to to try to
Speaker 1: stop Zoran. It's gonna be unhinged the winds blowing in
Speaker 1: his direction now though, like I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I think that specific class of
Speaker 2: people is just going to hate him until the end.
Speaker 2: Like I think I think, like like David Brooks is
Speaker 2: going to be writing calls about how there are like
Speaker 2: pigrams going on, like on the streets, like Brett Stevens
Speaker 2: is gonna be like I don't know, they're gonna go
Speaker 2: to call it like super Lebanon, Like it's gonna be
Speaker 2: like levels of unhinged no one's ever seen before.
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of the Times, Obama's tree strategist was quoted
Speaker 1: in a New York Times article Wednesday morning, quote, there
Speaker 1: is no doubt that Trump and Republicans will try and
Speaker 1: seize on him as a kind of exemplar of what
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party stands for. The thing is, he seems
Speaker 1: both principled and agile and deft enough to confront those
Speaker 1: sorts of confrontational plays. I do want to read off
Speaker 1: from a Fox News screenshot this morning showcasing Zoron's horrific,
Speaker 1: terrifying communist platform, which includes housing freezing rent, building afford
Speaker 1: level housing, creating city owned grocery stores whoa there are
Speaker 1: free buses, raising the minimum wage to thirty dollars by
Speaker 1: twenty thirty, and LGBTQIA plus protections, expanding and protecting gender
Speaker 1: affirming care citywide, making NYC and lgbtq AI plus sanctuary
Speaker 1: City and Trump proofing NYC to end ice cooperation. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you Fox News for that, for that
Speaker 1: great list of reasons.
Speaker 2: It's so to like Zaran Mamdani, I think I think,
Speaker 2: I think it's actually genuinely really important. She us like
Speaker 2: the only Democratic candidate in fucking ages who actively campaigned
Speaker 2: on like putting more funding in the trans healthcare like
Speaker 2: sixty five million dollars of funding. Yeah, fucking being pro
Speaker 2: trans wins. Being anti trans gets your ass kicked back
Speaker 2: to the suburbs.
Speaker 1: Like fucking Cuomo, eat shit, eat shit. Your Democratic strategists
Speaker 1: fuck off and die. Eat shit.
Speaker 2: You will be the ones in the fucking graves that
Speaker 2: you were digging for us, Like, fuck off, we have
Speaker 2: dun your electoral grapes.
Speaker 1: This is why when I was at this like it's
Speaker 1: open Mike at Metropolitan last night, like the whole room
Speaker 1: just like lit up in cheers, because yeah, like we've
Speaker 1: been we've been dealing with the past like six months.
Speaker 1: This idea that, like trans writes is like the thing
Speaker 1: that's killing democratic politics and fucking know it isn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and quote Quoto, Cuoto ran as a fucking transphobe
Speaker 2: because he is and it didn't work. This is the joint,
Speaker 2: joint feminist transgender victory over the forces of the turf
Speaker 2: sex predator.
Speaker 1: Fuck them to wrap up my stuff here. I do
Speaker 1: want to play one minute from Zorn's acceptance speech, which
Speaker 1: I think uh speaks for itself, and.
Speaker 4: It's where the mayor will use their power to reject
Speaker 4: Donald Trump's fascism to stop mass ice agents from deporting
Speaker 4: our neighbor.
Speaker 5: I to cover an our city as a model for
Speaker 5: the Democratic Party, a party where we fight for working
Speaker 5: people with no apology.
Speaker 4: A life of dignity should not be reserved for a
Speaker 4: fortunate few. It should be one that city government guarantees
Speaker 4: for each and every New Yorker. If this campaign has
Speaker 4: demonstrated anything to the world, it is that our dreams
Speaker 4: can become reality.
Speaker 1: I sure hope this is the model for the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party going forward. Mia, you wanted to close on a
Speaker 1: sad note.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really depressed this entire night because I
Speaker 2: remember feeling a lot like this in like twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because this happened in Chicago. Yeah, well this but
Speaker 1: a version of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like obviously Brandon Johnson was like significantly to
Speaker 2: the right of like everything that's been happening in New York,
Speaker 2: like not not he wasn't like a right winger, but
Speaker 2: he was like you know, like the local DSA had
Speaker 2: conflict with him from other stuff, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: I remember feeling like this, and then one year later,
Speaker 2: like swat teams like deployed by the mayor that he
Speaker 2: claimed he didn't send, were beating up art students outside
Speaker 2: like literally in the middle of downtown for trying to
Speaker 2: have a Palestine encampment. And you know, like my bitter
Speaker 2: cynical personally got rap fucked by the Mayor's office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like cynicism on this is like it's gonna be weird.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of shit that sucks this.
Speaker 1: This guy is like advocated defunding the police and is
Speaker 1: attacked like the NYPPD for years. Yeah, and now he's
Speaker 1: intensively gonna be in charge of it, and he's he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to abolish the NYPD like that that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. No, So there's gonna be a degree
Speaker 1: of like you know, moratl like crisis, Like he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to work against some of the things that he
Speaker 1: stated he believes in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on a structural level, there's there's a really
Speaker 2: significant problem here, which is that like the moment you
Speaker 2: become the leader of a capitalist city, right, it becomes
Speaker 2: your job to keep the economy running. And the problem
Speaker 2: is that like keeping keeping a capitalist economy running means
Speaker 2: you have to your job is now maintaining growth for
Speaker 2: for this economy, right, and maintaining growth through the economy
Speaker 2: means figuring out how how to have corporation continue to
Speaker 2: make more and more money. And that's not compatible with
Speaker 2: being a socialist. And everyone who has ever tried to
Speaker 2: like deal with this crisis, you either like you you
Speaker 2: have two pass It's like one you become a capitalist, right,
Speaker 2: and we see this fucking all over the place, right,
Speaker 2: it's like you know, it's it's it's Barcelona and Camboo
Speaker 2: coming into power, which is like this sort of like
Speaker 2: left wing council kind of like books to Nite thing,
Speaker 2: and then they immediately start like evicting migrants, right or
Speaker 2: two or two you actually do the thing, you do
Speaker 2: the thing you do, you do the actual socialism, and
Speaker 2: we fucking we like you know, this is this is
Speaker 2: the begetting of the end of fascism in a way
Speaker 2: where we see a fundamental change in the structure of
Speaker 2: our economic system, and that can be the outcome of this,
Speaker 2: but we have to build it, not him, like.
Speaker 1: And I think the most he's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: do is provide a bit of a safer zone for
Speaker 1: us to operate in in New York. Yeah. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: going to be introducing more like social democratic like policies,
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna make the city like financially easier to
Speaker 1: live in. Yeah, things will suck less, which is good.
Speaker 1: He is going to to the end of his power
Speaker 1: fight against Trump's efforts to deport your neighbors, and like,
Speaker 1: that is so much better than both what Croma would
Speaker 1: do and Eric Adams, who is actively collaborating with the
Speaker 1: Trump administration. So this man's not going to actually be
Speaker 1: the least algae. He's not actually going to be the
Speaker 1: guy that ushers in the Red Revolution, which is not
Speaker 1: even something I necessarily want. But I think what he
Speaker 1: can do is make this an actually better place to
Speaker 1: live right now. Yeah, and specifically make it a better
Speaker 1: place to live as the national politics in this country
Speaker 1: are controlled by a fascist and a cabinet full of fascists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he can make the largest city in the country
Speaker 1: the rock upon which the tide of fascism breaks. And
Speaker 1: that matters, That does well, That does it for us today,
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