1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hi coming in hat, hat, Hat, coming in hat. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: I wondered if you wanted to pull any pins. Kramer, Oh, 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: I just got like nauseous. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Did you? I don't know. Your husband, thanks told me 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: to rub a coin on it, a silver coin. 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: I go, could we use sorry silver drops and shit? 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: That feels more sanitary. So Catherine has a you know 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: what it looks like? Remember the girls in high school 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: or dudes that would or actually this happened when I 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: was pregnant, but when you puke pop. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: The Yeah, I think that's what it is. No, but 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I read after Emmy's friends like 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: discovered it on my eye and he was like, stop 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: doing drugs, mom, you know, being dramatic, But I like, literally, yeah, 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: I looked it up and it could be like a 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I did have, Like I had like a sneeze attack 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: the other day, and that can happen. I don't know. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Otherwise I got nothing. I had no idea. It wasn't 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: even bothering me. But now it is a. 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Little bit Welcome to the forty Sorry, did you put 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: any little drops in? 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: I've done nothing, but I might go try the silver 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: coin that your husband suggested. I mean, I would wash 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: it for that's what she said. I was like, I'm 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: not worried about it, being I could you just use 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: the drops, like the silver drops. 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: I think that's what Maybe we just americanized this strategy. 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: You can send it to me, but I bet his 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: works better, you know, stuff like that always works better. 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: I do think it will just distract you with whatever 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: it gives you next with the dirty money, but that's fine. 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, just send me the drops. We'll see 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: how they. 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 2: Okay, go make sure you get a tetanus shot after earth. 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: I was like that was. 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: You're like right away? Was like, or something clean? How 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: are the. 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: Shots going a great? Yeah? 40 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: You feel good? Yeah, I mean I've had moments. I've 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: definitely had some nauseous moments. And every day is a 42 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: little bit different, more hungry some days not the other. 43 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: But I'm down like ten pounds, oh my gosh, and 44 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: like two and a half weeks, right, I mean, I'm 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: sure a lot of it inflammation, you know, I'm sure 46 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: like water weight and inflammation and stuff that went away. 47 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm sticking to this one. For now. 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: As long as it's working, I won't even up the dosage, right, like, 49 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: as long as I'm losing weight. So and you feel good, Yeah, 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: I feel great again. There have been some moments where 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I kind of feel nauseous, but nothing terrible. 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you're surprised? You feel like any 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: fun benefits. 54 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: It's just to actually feel so like full is actually 55 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: a very weird. It's been a very weird feeling. I 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: don't know that I've just always maybe stopped myself in 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: time to feel that actual fullness. But like it's kind 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: of bizarre in a way, you know, like it's like 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: I have only eaten half of this now. It's definitely 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: more full than you know, probably a lot of people. 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: But I'm just like, how am I? Like this is 62 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: just not like me to actually feel ful right now? 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: But no, it's I mean it's been good. Yeah, there 64 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: is happy. 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: You know, there is like an actual that's a thing 66 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: in people's bodies to not get full. Yeah, people that 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: are missing I don't know if it's the chemical or 68 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: the nerve or whatever it is that allows them to 69 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: know that. 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just really it just last thing was it 71 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: just really gets you to a point where it's like, no, 72 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm good, I don't want to keep eating because this 73 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: tastes good, you know, which there's times you're like, yeah, 74 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: i'm full, I don't want to keep eating, but it 75 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: tastes so good, I'm just going to keep eating that 76 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: somehow goes away. I'm like, yeah, I had a piece 77 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: of pizza last night and I was like that tastes 78 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: really good and it was great. I'm good, I got it. 79 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: I'm done. 80 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm done, you know, and so great. 81 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. 82 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, So you guys. 83 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: I'm just avoiding. 84 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: I know you are. So we've got to I just feel. 85 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: Like last week, I well I just took over. 86 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but see, I've been waiting a whole week for 87 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: you to take over again and tell me. Yeah, we 88 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: had a. 89 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: Couple of pins. 90 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: We do okay, fine, all on pin both of them. 91 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: Maybe I bet we can talk her into it. 92 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: If it's a maybe. Usually Cat and I can get 93 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: you in a day. 94 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 95 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: So one was there was an incident again at the 96 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: baseball and so and I had to leave because Jolie 97 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: had a game at the same time. So I and 98 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: there were different fields. So I stayed for a few 99 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: minutes of Jase's and then had to go and then 100 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: and then went to Jolie's, and there was an incident 101 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: with the same kid, and this time it was Mike 102 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: who yelled. And what happened was is Jace got hit 103 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: with the baseball bat inside the cage, which the boys 104 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: the boys. I'm I'm not gonna call just one out, 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: but like, boys shouldn't be swinging the clubs around or 106 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: the bats around. And he ended up having a fair 107 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: little large bruise on his arm. And so because this 108 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: has happened a few times my and Mike, he's like, hey, 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: I just said, need to tell you what happened, and 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: and uh, I go straight to the ready to fire 111 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: off a text message and just be like, this is 112 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: unacceptable and he shouldn't he should be you know, he 113 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: got a bruise to his face a couple weeks ago, 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: that's because the ball hit him. That's fine for bruises 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: to happen out in the field, it shouldn't be happening 116 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: in the cage by his own teammates. And I obviously 117 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: drafted a text message send it to both of you guys. 118 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: You gave me your edits, and then I edited down 119 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: because I'm like, I'm not going to be on the 120 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: team anymore if you're like you know, because I just 121 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: go I'm not going to. 122 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: Take our ball and go home, but we are. We're 123 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: going to get a little self control in the dugout. 124 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: So I ended up not sending it just at all. 125 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: I kind of wanted. I'm starting to I'm trying to 126 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: not be reactive, and what I've done for the last 127 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: few years is my unsent text messages. I have a 128 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: lot of unsent text messages in my phone, but they're 129 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: helpful for me to just write them out. Sure, so 130 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: I did this with that, and I just didn't know 131 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: if I wanted to say anything. It was also weird 132 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: because she's a friend, like we hang out off the field, 133 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: so I knew if I sent something like this, it's 134 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: going to affect a friendship as well, and so. 135 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: I ended up not sending it. But she mentioned something 136 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: to me at the game. She goes, hey, so did 137 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: you hear what happened? And I was like, I did, 138 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: and if I'm honest, I'm really I was really disappointed 139 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: I didn't hear from you, because if that would have happened, 140 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: like other people reached out to me, and I was 141 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: surprised not to hear from you, and that's what I 142 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: was like, I gotta be honest. It did upset me, 143 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: and she was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. 144 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: And so then we had like a good conversation with it, 145 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: and she kind of said, she's like, I didn't see it, 146 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: and I didn't know the extent of it, and so 147 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: in that moment, it really made me realize that, you know, 148 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: and I thought maybe she was upset because of Mike's reaction, 149 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: because I mean, it was a loud scream, like Alan 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: was there watching it because he stayed and so that 151 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: I could go to Jolie's, and so, you know, I 152 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: thought maybe she was un upset about the reactions. And 153 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: I think it's important. I'm glad I didn't send it 154 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: because I made up that she witnessed the whole thing. 155 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: And that's when it was a really good lesson for 156 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: me because of my quick reaction to send something she 157 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: didn't know the extent of it, you know. So I 158 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: think I still could have sent it and she would 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: have said like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, But 160 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: I was holding on just making up a story that 161 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: actually wasn't true. And I think that was just such 162 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: a good lesson for me, not to realize that we 163 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: do that a lot, where we'll make up what we 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: think happened and then and then make assumptions about other 165 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: people because they didn't reach out or because they didn't 166 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: do X, Y and Z, and then we get even 167 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: more upset when really that's not, like none of those 168 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: stories end up being true. 169 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm the worst at that. I always make up 170 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: stories in my head. It's so hard. I mean, I 171 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: don't even know how to stop that a lot of 172 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the time. But that's awesome that you did and that 173 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: you were able to then talk to her and find 174 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: out what the truth is behind it. 175 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: And I'm glad I did say it bothered me because 176 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: I'm like that no matter what, that was the truth, 177 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: whether you know she did didn't text me or not, like, 178 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: it was still something that I'm glad I was, I said, 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: because I was holding onto it but then realizing everything 180 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: I made up in my mind right was actually not true. 181 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Right, And it's okay to be honest and say, yes, 182 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: this did upset me. Yeah, Like that's what we should 183 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: do as adults. I think that that's you know, I'm 184 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: glad it worked out that way. I had a feeling 185 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: you didn't send it, and I'm proud of you. I 186 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to do it, so you sent 187 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: it probably. Yeah, you know me, I'm bad at that 188 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: stuff really. Oh yeah, I'm reactionary, but that kind of 189 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: kid kids, Oh kids, Yeah. 190 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: That's the kid thing. I don't know that I could especially, yeah, waited. 191 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that I could have waited, but I 192 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: will say so. Amy and I have talked about this, 193 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: the filling in the blanks therapist Amy, because she said 194 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: creative people and especially interesting with your brain because you're 195 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: like a producer movie person in your brain. You have 196 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: a very production oriented mind, which is what I like 197 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: about you and my lighting today. But she says that 198 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: creative people can get more creative when they're filling in 199 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: the blanks, and so sometimes the creativity works against us. Yeah, 200 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: I do this in marriage. Fill in the blanks. Oh 201 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: uh huh gets really creative. So like if I don't 202 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: give any example, well like not so much anymore, mostly 203 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: because I don't even know what day or time it is. 204 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: But for a while there it was really important for 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: me to hear from him pretty often. It's also connective, 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: but there would be like these three hour four hour gaps, 207 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: and you know, like we have a saine in our house, 208 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: like days feel like hours to him and hours feel 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: like days to me on my end, and so he 210 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: I would be like it has been four hour, you know, 211 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: like I make up a store. He must be having 212 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: this lavish dinner or maybe he's you know, like whatever, 213 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: it gets really creative, and that's just not true. Like 214 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: he'll call and be like, hey, I was in you know, 215 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: seventeen interviews and then I went to go use the 216 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: bathroom for the first time today, like you know whatever, 217 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: gracious assumption and what you filled in the blank was 218 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: just dramatic. Or there's you know, a radio, like maybe 219 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: there's somebody out there and he's in some in depth 220 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: conversation and there's probably something, you know, like there's there 221 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: a girl there I don't know, right, Or is X, 222 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: Y and Z more important than me to be talking 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: to me? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Oh you couldn't. You didn't pee, 224 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: You couldn't even just call me when you went to go, 225 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: you know what I. 226 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: Mean, Like like that you couldn't have your phone in 227 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: pee at the same time. Come on, guys, post post 228 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: do your. 229 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 2: Especially if they're number two and then number one business? 230 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. 231 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: So it's almost like we have to like ask ourselves, 232 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: where do you fill in the blank? 233 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can make a case for anything. That's 234 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm really a firm believer of that, specifically in my 235 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: life lately, Like I can make a case one side 236 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: or the other if I wanted to, you could find anything. 237 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: So you have to make your case in the best way. 238 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: What do you do with your reactions? And have you 239 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: gotten better or no? 240 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's only certain people in certain things, you know. 241 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean I definitely if it was someone I didn't know, 242 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: it would be harder for me to do it. If 243 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable with the person, or if I know them, 244 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: I can jump too quick reactions and I regret it. 245 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: I've gotten better with my words. I'm usually always I 246 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: like to think kind but assertive, but there are times 247 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: that I'm like, if I would have just waited and 248 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: not said anything, it would have worked itself out. But 249 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: it's generally usually just kid related and having issues with kids. Yeah, 250 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: but I just I don't. I think I'm so don't 251 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: want to get walked on or don't want to feel 252 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: like I'm being abused in some way that sometimes I 253 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: just like over, I'm like, no, if I don't say anything, 254 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: then they're just going to continue to do this if 255 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't. If I don't do this, then something you know, 256 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: And so I just I make up those things in 257 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: my mind when they probably didn't even realize something was 258 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: going on or didn't know or there wasn't bad intent. 259 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: In my mind, A lot of times there's bad intent, 260 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: whether there is or isn't. 261 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: Is that funny how we always go to the negative. 262 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah with everything, Yeah, but also conditioned sometimes to 263 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: feel that way. In our defense, I feel like if 264 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: you put our three histories together, there's enough. 265 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: There is therapist and the couples. 266 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: There say there's enough data and less projection, So there's 267 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: some there's a point where you start to be able 268 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: to rely on what you know to be true about 269 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: most because of things pan out. Yeah, that's me. 270 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: And I would say to kind of defend your initial 271 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: reaction with the baseball thing, and I understand the other friends, 272 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: there has been prior behavior sure to this, So it 273 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: wasn't just this out of nowhere, someone you don't know, 274 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: someone you haven't seen, kind of maybe not behave in 275 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: the best. They're kids, not coming down on this kid. 276 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: But so there was a reason why it was, like, man, 277 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: it happened again, and now it happened to my kid. Sure, 278 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: So I will defend your initial reaction and you being 279 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: upset to it a little bit too, because you've seen 280 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: that behavior. Yeah, and now it's your kid. Yeah, but 281 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: you didn't like it when it was someone else's kid either. 282 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: We talked about it on here. Sure it bothered you 283 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: when it was someone else's kid. 284 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: I also think you're being polite when you say it 285 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: was a pretty substantial Bruce, like I would have been living. 286 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty big. 287 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you for being able to bad go. 288 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. 289 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: Because in my mind, I'm like, it could have been 290 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: a fracture. That's how bad it was. 291 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: I thought it was not real, especially for how quick bruised. 292 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So in my mind, I'm like, if I would 293 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: have seen that, I would have been texting the person 294 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: being like, I'm so sorry. Is it fractured? Can I 295 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: like meet you up? You know, or like what can 296 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: I help with or so? 297 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: And then also to her defense, obviously she didn't see it. 298 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: She heard about it though, Yeah, So to me, I 299 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: still and I'm just gonna be the one to say it, 300 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: I still think she should have reached out hearing about it. 301 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: Having said that, maybe she is the kind of person 302 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: that just avoids. And that's what I'm also learning. I'm 303 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: the personality I want to talk about it. Come to me, 304 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Let's not avoid But maybe she's 305 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: avoidant behave you know, right personality And she was just 306 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: scared too. 307 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And in her defense, she was even like, oh 308 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: my gosh, you know what I should have you know, 309 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: it's like it was one of those things where it's 310 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: life and busy and shouldn't even like think about it 311 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: that way from not seeing so. 312 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, all and all that went. Well, I'm glad that 313 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: worked up, but I'm really more anxious about the other pets. 314 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: So is this the thing that we talked about on 315 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the phone but you wouldn't tell me? 316 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: Yes? 317 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So, oh, literally two days ago, we're talking about work. 318 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: She's like, so, I've really got something I gotta tell you, 319 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: but I can't tell you I'm like, you literally can't 320 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: do that to me. 321 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: Do I know about this? 322 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Does she know? 323 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Do I not know? 324 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: She knows? Why am I the only one that doesn't know? 325 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: So I'm being I didn't want it. I know this 326 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: is the series, but this is how this is how 327 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: I must feel often when the two let me tell you. 328 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm like, I'm not gonna lie. 329 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: I was like I paused. 330 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Because I was like because she was like, I can't 331 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: tell y'all. So here's and I did it well, So 332 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: I made sure I didn't. Yesterday, the day that it 333 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: was happening, I said, I texted her. I was like, 334 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm struggling and I want to tell you, but I 335 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: do want to save it for the podcast because I 336 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: don't even know if I want to talk about it 337 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: and so and she had texted back, and you said 338 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: podcasts aside, like if this is something, yeah, I was like, 339 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: if you need like a real friendship moment, this doesn't 340 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: need to be for air, like I want to be there. 341 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: And I also know you don't love talking on the 342 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: phone too, And I. 343 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: Know I feel bad. No I should have reacted that way. 344 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: Well, No, she doesn't usually text me that though, like 345 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: if you're texting me that it is something that's pretty 346 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: like it's not like detrimental, but like, just I can 347 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: tell that it matters a lot because she won't say 348 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: that to me after. That's why I was like, I 349 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: want to just check in. 350 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 351 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then even when we got on the phone, 352 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: I was still just like, no, I don't think I 353 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: want to talk about it. 354 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: But I was. 355 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: I actually think I might have called you and you 356 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: didn't answer. Did I FaceTime you and you didn't answer? 357 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Was there face time? I was like, a FaceTime? 358 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Do you That happens a lot. Yeah, Well, I don't 359 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: like face times. I'm sorry, love the face and I 360 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: don't look at my missed facetimes like if I haven't 361 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: missed when, I don't like go and look at him. 362 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: So I'm so sorry. Having said that, I'm really anxious 363 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: to find out. So what's going on? 364 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: So I I met Mike's girlfriend? 365 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Oh wait, is this a new one? I love the cricket? 366 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Is this a new one? 367 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: This is a new one? 368 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I know any one. Well, I guess that's 369 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the part of. 370 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: So. 371 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I when we had the talk in the office, 372 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: So I knew he had a girlfriend, and and what 373 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: I basically said was, you know, before she meets the kids, 374 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: I'd like to because obviously I know this one's a 375 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: serious one, so I'd like to I'd like to meet 376 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: her before. 377 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: The kids do. Uh. 378 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: And just as I did respect for Mike and Allen, 379 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: so uh. And I was leading up to it, so 380 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: she had come into town because she doesn't live here yet, 381 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: and I we were, you know, going to meet and 382 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 3: I was so nervous, which I didn't know how to 383 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: like work through my feelings of it because it's such 384 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: a weird thing, like I am and this is like 385 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: the wildest part of it all is like I am 386 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: married with a new baby, and yet it's still hard. 387 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: And I was trying to like understand what piece of 388 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: it is hard because it's just like not a natural 389 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: thing to be going to go meet someone that is 390 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 3: about to be around my kids a lot, and I 391 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: haven't had experience with. 392 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: That sure at all. Right, were you going, let me 393 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: just set the stage. Were you going to meet just her? 394 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: So that was what was important to me, was for 395 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: it to just be her and I yeah, okay, And 396 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: so yeah, so that that happened and you know, just 397 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: out of respect and privacy, I'm not gonna kind of 398 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: I'm not going to explain all of it, but it 399 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: did strike a because at the end of the day, 400 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't matter if because it doesn't it 401 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: doesn't really matter truly what I think, as long as 402 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: she is good around the kids, and. 403 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: That's that's that's the most important thing. 404 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: I just wanted to kind of get to know her 405 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: and be comfortable and knowing that she's, you know, going 406 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: to be around the kids and stuff. So the end 407 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: of the day, you know, I look forward to having 408 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: more conversations with her in time. But it did make 409 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: me think of so aside from that, so that conversation 410 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: is now, you know, that's I don't want to go. 411 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to dive more into that because you know, 412 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: I want to keep that thing private. Sure, but it 413 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: made me think of a really interesting post chat idea. 414 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: Would you want a Kristen or a Catherine around your kids? 415 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: Oh so if you are divorced. 416 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I feel like this is going to be this is 417 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: why three way friendships don't work, because. 418 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: I think it's so interesting because it's like for me, 419 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: I and this is like, oh, the most wild thing ever. 420 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: But you know, we can't pick our dream person for 421 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: other partner, right right, so like we have to accept 422 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: who they bring into our kids. But it just kind 423 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: of made me think because I'm like, man, what a 424 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 3: what a dream world to be able to like I 425 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: wish there was a show where you could like hand 426 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: select you know, the person for your for for your 427 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: ex husband. 428 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: Trying with the kids. 429 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: But I just was like, man, this is a good 430 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: a good question for the key question for It's like, 431 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: you know, because there's all types of different people, you know, 432 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: and it's like, so would you want a Christian or 433 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: would you want a cat? Because like you know, you're 434 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: I think you were like, how do I say this? 435 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Like I would want to Kristen, I'll just say that 436 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: you would want I would want you absolutely, But I 437 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: can't think I would want to. 438 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: But I think I would want to Catherine. 439 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that, but we couldn't have two of me. 440 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: So I pick a Christian. So I picked me because 441 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: of default? 442 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: Why would you pick Kristin? 443 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: Now? I would? 444 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: I mean I think I feel sweaty. I don't know 445 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: why for asking me and you this question is very 446 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: different than asking someone completely like for me, like you're 447 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: always going to want something that you're not. 448 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: I feel like a little bit you know, that's interesting. 449 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 2: I think that might be the question for her. I 450 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: think this is why it's coming up for her because 451 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: she doesn't know if she wants someone that's like her 452 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: or not like her? Is that true? I'm talking about 453 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: her like she's not right right? 454 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I feel like for me, I would like them 455 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: to have like a more Yes. I think me and 456 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: you have enough in common that it would be great 457 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: because we still have our foundation, we still have like 458 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: our belief system, we still have all that. But you 459 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: might react differently to things, and those are the things 460 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: that could help you know them having a different like 461 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: viewpoint of that as kids, like not just seeing me 462 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: as a mom and how I react to different things, 463 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: but how you react to different things, Like I think 464 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: that could be cool. 465 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: I would marry you, Kat, you're just a cat. I 466 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: won't want to well, because I just always wonder it's 467 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: like if do you want someone that I mean is 468 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: And this isn't like trying to personalities here, but like 469 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, you're more touchy and like huggy, and it's 470 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: like I don't know if I you know, if I'm 471 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: threatened by that, you know what I mean? So true, 472 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: it's like what I feel threatened if the if the 473 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: other person was. And again this all goes back to 474 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: I just want the kids to feel loved, right, But 475 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm also speaking from it is going to be hard 476 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: to have another woman around my kids because I'm not 477 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: used to that. So and that's something where I didn't 478 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: I stayed so long. Like now I'm at a place 479 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: and you know, Kat, you've been on this journey with 480 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: me longer. But why I want I told you one 481 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: of the main reasons when it happened. And she's like, 482 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna leave right, And I'm like, my daughter is 483 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: four months old, like no, like, and I was like 484 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: she is because I'm like, if he was to be 485 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: with someone then there she might call them mom, and 486 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: she like it is like this is my daughter, my child. 487 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: But now it's like they're going. 488 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: To get the emotion, what those emotions and that like 489 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm mom. If anything, this person is going to be 490 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: just an added awesome bonus of love and fun and whatever. 491 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: But I do think there's different personality types that I'm 492 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: just kind of it started to make me think like, huh, 493 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: like what would I what would I have wanted or 494 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: what what? 495 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Or what? 496 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: You know, what what would be good or what would 497 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: make me feel? I don't know, it's just something interesting. 498 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: You a question, Cramer, go for it. 499 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: What is something she would do that would make you 500 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: maybe feel insecure? Oh? Nothing, nothing? Okay, if I'm being 501 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: totally honest, Yeah, yeah, Like I know now I think 502 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: I might be insecure if someone was way over the 503 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: top fun. 504 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it would be fun insecure for sure. 505 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Like I would when you said a fun whatever, I 506 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh, oh well, they better not be having 507 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: too much on because. 508 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Because I know now I'm secure enough in my Like 509 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: I know I'm secure enough in the mom like I 510 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: mom that, Like I would make forward to him having 511 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: someone around the kids because I there's a piece of 512 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: me that's like, great, she's going to help cook awesome 513 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: meals for them, and great she's going to have help 514 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: them you know, maybe not be on the video games 515 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: all the time. Like I make up that like having 516 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: a woman presence around the kids more at Mike's house 517 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 3: will help with getting them out more and being more active, 518 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: you know. So I like I I welcome and that's 519 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: why I told her. I was like, I welcome having 520 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: you know, a female presence around my kids there, you know. Uh, 521 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: and we are so different that I think it works 522 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: where they're going to get things from, you know. Like again, 523 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: I'm always mom, so it's sure sure, like well, nobody 524 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: can do. I hope she has fun. I hope she's 525 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: fun with you know what I mean, Like, I hope 526 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: for that that would be great. 527 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: But I don't think. 528 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm older obviously, and you know, so 529 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm very secure and are you older than her? Oh yeah, 530 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: but like and I'm like not insecure about that, like 531 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: I I love being my age and yeah, yeah, the 532 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: steadiness of my age. I think I even sometimes get 533 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: this feeling. I don't know if it's maybe it is insecurity, 534 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: but I get it in my own marriage because my 535 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: husband's the fun one, right because I'm there all the 536 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: time and I'm legend will say Mama is the say 537 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: your prayers and your thank yous and whatever, and so 538 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm like sometimes I do get that feeling, like but 539 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: I'm fun too, Like someone has to be the structure, 540 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: you know, well, and I think that's the piece where like, yeah, 541 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 3: because the end of the day, right, if I'm not 542 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 3: on something or filming, it's only seven to eight days there. 543 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: So it's like let them. 544 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: Let them, let that be the house where they have 545 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, the fun too, because it's like there is 546 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 3: fun here. 547 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're going to get more of the or 548 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: the harder you know, responsibilities and day to day here. 549 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would make me so insecure? I already know 550 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: would be. 551 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean think about like you and Nick 552 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 3: were heading towards divorce, so like what would what kind 553 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: of woman? 554 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what would make me so insecure? Because this 555 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: already makes me insecure with some of my kids friends 556 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: parents giving like them giving advice because we talk about everything, right, 557 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: we talk about all the things, you know, I give 558 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: them the advice that they ask it. But if they 559 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: were to listen to that other mother stepmother for advice, 560 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't agree with it, but they went with 561 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: that advice, that would kill me, That would just destroy me. 562 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: But I said, but why don't you listen to me? 563 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: Like what you know? That would tap into some kind 564 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: of insecurity that I would not Like. 565 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely have these little pieces of me like 566 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: even as you're talking and thinking about things that like 567 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: are like triggering if you will, where I'm just like. 568 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: Well, I would love to do that if I didn't 569 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: have to. 570 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 571 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so easy for her to say it 572 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: could be it could be great, could be bad. I 573 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I know I. 574 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: Don't speak too highly often of Michael, but I actually 575 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: feel I do feel excited for him to have this 576 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: in his life. Yeah, because I think he'll I think 577 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: it'll be good for him and for your kids. But yeah, 578 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be good. 579 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think at the end of the day, 580 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: you know again, I know, having the kids here and 581 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: primarily having them and I just any addition, I mean, 582 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: just like look what Alan's done. I mean, granted he's 583 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: with them more than their dad, but Alan has brought 584 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: so much, like he's the way that he is helping 585 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: raise Jase to be such a manner's kid. I mean, 586 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, he's teaching him to hold the doors open. 587 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: I mean there's there's aspects that you know that so 588 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: many beautiful things that Alan has helped helping ingrain in 589 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: the kids. And you know they'll and I look forward to, 590 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 3: you know, having again the woman presence over there, you know, 591 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: if they continued on and as long as the kids 592 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: are happy, that's literally it. I can get along with anyone. 593 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: And I want that relationship to be great, you know. 594 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: Uh so I do look forward to to, you know, 595 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: to having more conversations and stuff like that for the 596 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: sake of everybody. 597 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: So, were you like struggling with it, nervous about it 598 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: just before meeting her or after? 599 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: It was definitely before, just because again and thats like, 600 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: why am I upset? You know, I'm like, I'm married 601 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: with a child, Like I shouldn't be upset about this. 602 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 3: I think it's just it's still it's my kids, you know, 603 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: And it's yeah, and what if I don't like her 604 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: and what if you know, just all the things it's 605 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: like to have another woman around. And again, I feel 606 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: it sounds so hypocritical of me to say that because 607 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm married with. 608 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: Another but you hadn't gone through it yet. 609 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is to have another woman around your 610 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: kids is is a very hard pill to swallow, Like 611 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: she will have memories with my kids at the beach 612 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: that I don't to have and that I was stolen 613 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 3: and that it's that's that's there's a sting of that. 614 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Again. 615 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 3: I don't want to be on that want the beach 616 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: shrip with him, of course, but it's memories that like 617 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: I I have no like I'm not getting and then 618 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: she's going to get some. But again I have to 619 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: Then I keep going back to my kids and what 620 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: is best for the kids. What's best for the kids 621 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: is to have a female presence at Mike's house that 622 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: will keep a clean house, that will feed them helpful 623 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: like nice, good foods, you know, So I welcome that. 624 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it don't be too hard on yourself, like attaching 625 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: a judgment to a feeling either, because it's I think 626 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: it's all very fair and normal. 627 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so did you felt better after you 628 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: met with her? Did you seem very like good? Right now? 629 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: So as I'm trying to figure out where the shifts. 630 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: I have, there's I have. 631 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: Working throughout Again, I am doing my part to make 632 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: it be a good relationship. And it's sweet. Mike sees 633 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: it too. He text me is like, thank you for 634 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: the effort you're putting in, and I just I hope 635 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: that is reciprocated. So yeah, well good, yeah, So again, 636 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: well you know we'll see about that. And but yeah, 637 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: that so that that that band aid's been pulled off 638 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: because it's been it's been a couple of years now 639 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: that I mean, I've I've kind of met a girlfriend 640 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: through FaceTime, but nothing like this. So but it's just 641 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: it's hard, you know. And and but now I'm I'm 642 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: good because I I just want what's best for the kids. Yeah, 643 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: and I have to think of what the positives are 644 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: with that. 645 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Sure, well good, I'm proud of you. 646 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: I'd love any advice though from anybody out there. Ladies, 647 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: let's whine about it. Who's got one. 648 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Kind of thought? Your pins were going to be the 649 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: wine about it? 650 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: No, I have no wine with meeting girlfriends and bruised arms. No, 651 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: it's all less it's all lesson and growth. So that 652 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: I actually have one. Oh, there we go, and she goes, 653 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: I am going to go thirty thousand feet as not 654 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: to throw anyone under the bus. Oh don't we love those? 655 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: But people that don't sustain a real relationship but love 656 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: to hijack social media. 657 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: People that don't sustain a real relationship but love to 658 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: hijack social media. So are we talking about a. 659 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: I won't get specific. I realize that, but are we 660 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: talking about a like a married couple that actually isn't 661 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: in love but yet? So what are we talking about 662 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: like a friend of yours? Come down to fifteen thousand? Yeah, 663 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: I fifteen Friday thousand. I don't understand. 664 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, you can make up all these things in our brain. 665 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: I am not filling in so many things. Okay, So 666 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: I think what's tricky is like we'll say friends, Okay, 667 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: we had in a two week number one? 668 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: Yes, huge, gosh amazing. I don't know in two weeks congrats. 669 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just sorry, I've kind of been heading 670 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: so secret. 671 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: This is about you just kidding. 672 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, we have all Like that's the thing, Like 673 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: I just don't take offense to anything because like life 674 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: is so crazy and wild for all of us that 675 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's great. In our family. We haven't even 676 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: celebrated that. I don't get to see my husband. So 677 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: maybe that's why I didn't know. It was because I 678 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: didn't see it on your socials. And for me, it's 679 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: like I go off of yeah I didn't. I don't 680 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: read media base anymore. My days of reading media base 681 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: are long gone. Yeah, so we Okay, So I did 682 00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: post a social I means it's not about anyone in 683 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: this room. It's not about okay, so this is okay, 684 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: So it's a friend right, so I post we are 685 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: you guys would also agree. You ladies will agree with 686 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: me that people do come out of the woodwork during 687 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: these celebratory times, and rightfully so right like, people are 688 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: like this is incredible and I'm so happy for you, 689 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: Like it's so great to see people say, yeah. 690 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I love that. 691 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: There's people I don't do well with personality types that 692 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: try to hijack things and make it about them. I'm 693 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: not even making the number one about me, and I'm 694 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: actually on the label this time. I'm just really proud 695 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: of my husband. Yeah, but I have really witnessed it. 696 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: There's a few different ones and not even just my people, 697 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: but I've witnessed how they've tried to tie themselves in 698 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: on social media. 699 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: And you're like, we're not friends and not even texting 700 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: to say right, they're just ben on social media, wild 701 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: and very like big. 702 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: And grandstandy on social media, and I'm like, where is 703 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: this coming from? 704 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 705 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: Really not my favorite thing. And I and I also 706 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: try really hard to go like, what is it about 707 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: that that makes me like what's triggering? You know? Well, 708 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: don't you think it's the person's wanting attention? Yeah? 709 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: I would say it's like when someone dies and they're 710 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 3: like they were my best friend and I'm like, you 711 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: didn't even talk to them in school, you know, right, 712 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 3: they want that piece of attention. Yeah, Or the people 713 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: that like announce the death before the family members even do. 714 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: It's like that kind of huh yeah, Like it's not 715 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 3: it's I don't know. I just I will say though, 716 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: I grew up with a dad who made a lot 717 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: about him all the time, and so I think that 718 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: is part of my like allergy to it. 719 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: Like give me an EpiPen. This is like disgusting to me, 720 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: and I so I have to go like is that me? 721 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: Or is that this situation? And I just don't love it? 722 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: So that's my whine about it. I just get really annoyed. 723 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, you haven't even texted me to say the 724 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: things that you're now just making such a public declaration 725 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: and trying to tie in and like there was this 726 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: pretending to know everything about our daily life and I'm like, hello, like. 727 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: Like you just want to post like something in return, 728 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: so everybody knows, like. 729 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: Right that you're associated with this, Okay, we got it. 730 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: I think people want to be associated with fame of 731 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: things or uh yeah, acknowledge. 732 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: That with them, right, you know. 733 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: And it's honestly, I mean, it's been like five years 734 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: since we've had one, so I'm like, where has everybody 735 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: been out? 736 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's say I get that. I wouldn't like 737 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: that either. Yeah. 738 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: It's really quite frustrating and it just feels disingenuous. And 739 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm so that is just so like hurts my whole 740 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: being that I'm like, and then I'm the one who 741 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: would normally say something, yeah, did you I didn't. I'm 742 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: working on being slow to speak, work on that too. 743 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: Sacred pauses as I've heard, Oh I just gowing, do 744 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: we need to pause? Just asking for a friend? 745 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: I will say, A lot does sort itself out. 746 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: A lot does sort it A lot does yeah, and 747 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: also light Cramer. A lot of times I write what 748 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: I'd want to write, but there is something like, Okay, 749 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: if I did post that, what good does. 750 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: That do well in that situation? 751 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: Like? 752 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: But does it y'all have really friends anyway? And it's 753 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: not going to do any good that makes sense, So 754 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: I'll make my wine about it. Do y'all watch that 755 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: video that I sent. Y'all, you were probably already podcasting earlier. 756 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't looked at my text. You're fine. I 757 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: came across this video apparently this is Yeah, guys, I'm 758 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: really not offended. 759 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: I want you to so you know, we've been dealing 760 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: with like middle school drama, like friend drama or whatever. 761 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: But side note, this video popped up on my thing 762 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: today and I'll just explain it. It basically is this 763 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: teacher in this high school classroom and she is losing 764 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: her mind at her students, like literally hitting her hand 765 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: against the thing because these students have bullied another kid, okay, 766 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: and she is literally yelling at them. She was like, 767 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: you know, in their face, like this is what is 768 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: wrong with Like if you do not treat people like this, 769 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: if you do not apologize, get the fuck out of 770 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: my classroom. I mean, losing her mind. The teacher yes, 771 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: because croom, because because they bullied this boy. And it's 772 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: this big boy too. He has his head down, he's 773 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: crying and she is literally no he was already I'm 774 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: assuming he was already just because they were I don't 775 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: know exactly what they did. She literally says, she goes, 776 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: there are people out there killing themselves because the thing 777 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: that you just did to him or whatever. At the end, 778 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize this because I saw it two 779 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: different places. But at the very end, you realize that 780 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: he had had a maga hat on and they were 781 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: bullying him for political reasons. I didn't even know that though, 782 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: I didn't know that until. My whole point for this 783 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: is too, my whole point, My whole point. My whole 784 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: point is a lot of things. First of all, bullying 785 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: is very much on my mind. I'm not saying my 786 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: daughter's being bullied, but it's very much on my mind 787 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: now age yeah, and which yeah, and it's you know, 788 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: and I got a lot of responses from people I 789 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 1: know who are like, I've gotten my kids out of 790 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: the high school year kids are at because of bullying 791 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: and nobody taking care of it, and so it just 792 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: but my thing is is it's a controversial video. And 793 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask y'all because it's like she was 794 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: not sugarcoating it. 795 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: Can I ask what grade? 796 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean? They looked like they were probably tenth eleventh. 797 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: Grade, then old because I'm sorry for me. I'm just 798 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,959 Speaker 2: if this was like an elementary class, okay, oh well yeah, 799 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: like dropping even though I'm sure their parents have dropped 800 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: an F bomb or time or two. Maybe maybe not, 801 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: but in eleventh grade, absolutely, I would say, as long 802 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: as any physical stuff, it's absolutely not. But like if 803 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 2: she is saying get the fuck absolutely, if you're bullying, 804 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: someone's like, I can so on hundred percent, and you're 805 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: in that grade, because I think that's the only way 806 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: those kids may be able to hear it. 807 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. If not, yeah, because one girl, actually you can 808 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: hear from the back says, well, he shouldn't have worn 809 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: the hat. And she goes get out of my classroom 810 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: because she had just said, y'all all apologize. I guess 811 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: the whole class did something to this kid, y'all all 812 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: apologize right now, or get the f out of my classroom. 813 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: And then this kid from the back was like, well 814 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have worn the hat, and he was like, 815 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: she was like, get out of my classroom right now. 816 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: But I mean she is like hitting this, she's ash. 817 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: I mean, she is passionate. You know. It's just been 818 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: very interesting to see a lot of controversy around it, 819 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: and a lot of people who were like, absolutely, that's 820 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: what we need. We need people standing up. It does 821 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: not matter what hat he was wearing, does not matter. 822 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: If it was political, it doesn't matter. If it was racial, 823 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whatever it was. It was bullying. 824 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. 825 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 3: If it involves bullying, I think a reaction like that 826 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 3: at that age with those kids is fine. Obviously no 827 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: physicality attached to it. Yeah, if there is. If it 828 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 3: wasn't a bullying situation and someone just did you know, 829 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 3: then then I'd be like, no, that's a little. 830 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: Too right, right for sure. But and I sent it 831 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: to some of my friends. 832 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: And I was, what is Yeah, what is everyone saying? 833 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, everyone I've been getting so 834 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: far has just been like yes, absolutely, like we need 835 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: more of this, you know. But it just really had 836 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: me thinking because I had a very a smaller scale 837 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: situation where I'll just tell the story. There was a 838 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: friend in Emmy's friend group, not one of her great friends, 839 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: but a guy friend in her friend group who I 840 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: had seen on social media, actually through Emmy's phone that 841 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: he had said to another person but on social media, 842 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: basically telling them he needed to go kill himself. He's 843 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, called him gay, called him all these just 844 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things, right, And I was like, this 845 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: behavior is absolutely unacceptable. Now it wasn't towards emmy, it 846 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, whatever. But I told her how I 847 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: felt about it and how I didn't want her spending 848 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: time with him, but to see the parents that I know, 849 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: well that kid told him to go kill himself. The 850 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: way people defend the behavior has my mind blown. 851 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: Okay, right, like the hat, like like yeah, like them saying, well, 852 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: he wore the hat. 853 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: He wore the hat, So at what point do we 854 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: just go, Okay, we're gonna let him get away with 855 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: it because that kid told him to do it. First. 856 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: Now that kid needs consequences, but so does that kid. 857 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: They all have to be reinforced and as adults as 858 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: a whole. I'm saying, people are making excuses for them. 859 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: I mean, good friends of mine are making excuses for 860 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: this kid. And I'm like, I'm my mind is blown, 861 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: Like in what world is that ever? Okay? 862 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 2: Well I even mentioned and this is not we don't 863 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 2: want to go backwards, but like part of my reaction 864 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: to the story that Janna shared earlier about the kid 865 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: hitting the other kid, I said, what happens is these 866 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: are just all muscles in their learning. So at a 867 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: little age, if no one's correcting that and we're tiptoeing 868 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 2: and maybe that's how this person is, yes, then they 869 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: are just reinforcing and building muscle or behavior that's not 870 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: acceptable and not safe more than anything, and then they 871 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 2: never learn. And if parents aren't going to do that, 872 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: like I do, think that's why they say it takes 873 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 2: a village to raise a child, and not that we 874 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: need to be parenting everyone's but like, at some point 875 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 2: this is not except the behavior. 876 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're raising a society of you know, and like 877 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: in my what this mom friend group, it's you know 878 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: that I sent it to. One person was like, kids 879 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: can be assholes, but bullying is another thing. And I said, yeah, 880 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: but assholes unchecked become bullies. That's right, And that's my problem. 881 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: And so I have gotten flack for this before for 882 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 2: saying that I'm not a super super into like gentle parenting, 883 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: because I feel like we create a society of kids 884 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: that are able to talk their way out of things 885 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 2: and their own behaviors. And I'm not saying spank your child. 886 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like consequences. This isn't like, yeah, okay, 887 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 2: let's have a tea party, because I want to talk 888 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: about like at some point that's just unacceptable. Yeah, And 889 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 2: we have a responsibility to raise people for society and 890 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 2: honestly people. 891 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: I want that for that kid. 892 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: Same. 893 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: I want that mom to say you cannot do this 894 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: and there is a consequence for it. And I don't 895 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: think that kid wants to be that kid. 896 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: I have a really I defend kids in like the 897 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 2: opposite inside outweigh where I'm like, there's something else going 898 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: on there, like what is here to talk about? Yeah, 899 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: because a kid that wants to say that, there's something 900 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: deeper there. 901 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: Anyways, Well, and I tried talking to the other kid 902 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: that was accused, who it was said to, who was 903 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: accused of saying it. First, I actually sat down with 904 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: him in my home and I had a conversation with 905 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: him and I talked to him. He said he couldn't 906 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: talk to his parents. He couldn't, you know. And I 907 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: tried to give him advice. Well, he's hurting, and he 908 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: took that a lot. He said things that I said 909 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: and twisted and all that and said, I need we 910 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: need to distance ourselves from this situation because I was 911 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: trying to help and he kind of twisted it because 912 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: there's just you know, drama. But again, it just it 913 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: makes me sad for all of them because it's not 914 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: that I'm saying that this kid is a bad kid. 915 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: It just the behavior has to be checked or it's 916 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: going to get worse. And then what's going to happen 917 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: to this kid when he does it to Because I'll 918 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: tell you what, had he posted that towards my child, 919 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been forgiveness, let me be very clear, 920 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: and that that I you know, and he doesn't speak 921 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: to my child anymore, like at all. He doesn't speak 922 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: to her. She's afraid that he you know, she's afraid 923 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 1: to leave the group. She's afraid him and others will 924 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: bully her. But I dare him to post something like 925 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: that to my own kid, because there's no way I 926 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: would not be aware that that was happening, and then 927 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: I would not take do something to take care of it. 928 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: And that's he Eventually he's going to do it to 929 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: the wrong person and he is going to have constant quinces, 930 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: and it's going to be much bigger than it would 931 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: be if somebody would just handle it. Now, I just. 932 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: Don't understand how we got here. I mean, think the 933 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: same thing. Just think back. I really truly didn't know 934 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 3: what suicide was until I couldn't even tell you. But like, 935 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: and I couldn't imagine telling another human to kill themselves. 936 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: And these middle schoolers are telling other kids to do that. 937 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just like, I don't think they realize 938 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 3: the words and the weight that they're actually I don't 939 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 3: think they understand it. And the problem is is now 940 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 3: these kids are actually doing it, and like, can you 941 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: imagine having that ripple effect on your life that you 942 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 3: were the one to say that to someone, Because again, 943 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: like you said, I don't think they mean to say this, 944 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 3: and I don't know if they know the weight that 945 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: goes on too. 946 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: That exactly that is what I talked to that boy about. 947 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't understand what you're saying, what that 948 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: does to people, And it's it's I don't I mean, 949 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: I think social media is a lot of it, but 950 00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know how we got to this point. 951 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 3: It was so interesting, This is like not, this is 952 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 3: on the smallest smallest, smallest, smallest tenius of scales. But 953 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 3: I something we had. I had a a night just 954 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 3: with Jolie, and Mike wanted to do a night just 955 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 3: with Jace, so we like to just kind of trade 956 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 3: off sometimes and like have our own private time or whatever. 957 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 3: And in the morning, yes, it was a lot quieter 958 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 3: because Jace's you know, he's loud or whatever. And when 959 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 3: we were all together back this morning, Jolie is like, Jace, 960 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 3: it was so much quieter when you weren't here, and 961 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 3: I go, hey, babe, Like I was like stop. I 962 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: pulled her aside and she's like what it wasn't me 963 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 3: And I go, but what you're telling him, He's now 964 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 3: going to believe that he's loud. 965 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: And Jace isn't loud. It's just a fun, loving boy. 966 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: But I think these kids start telling these kids, and 967 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: then they start believing what these other kids are and like, 968 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 2: that's okay, that's not you're not the like. 969 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: But it's so true. It starts off so small, yeah, 970 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: and it's so innocent. It truly is. But again, that's 971 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: why I say unchecked behavior. 972 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean an assholes, unchecked become bullies, like what, 973 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: yeah a quote from Kat Yeah, and that's that's so true. 974 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: It's just so y'all need to go watch that video. 975 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna post it again when this podcast airs, because 976 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: it is like I'm getting so many responsible I mean, 977 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: I think she's been I mean, it's it's wonder fire. 978 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: I know it's just for the language. 979 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: You so not. 980 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 3: I know, the all female Blue Origin flight is getting 981 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 3: a lot of heat and reaction. Slubs are speaking out 982 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 3: questioning what the point of the flight to space was 983 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 3: and how is this billion dollar spend justified? So Olivia 984 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: Wilde slams it. You know who else? I mean, there 985 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 3: was there was a few people that I saw. Amy 986 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 3: Schumer had said a comment about it, Olivia Munn had 987 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: made a comment about how you know, and I don't 988 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 3: know one of one of those three people were basically 989 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 3: or also Emily Redaitowski she also said it. One of 990 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 3: those girls had mentioned too, like you know, people can't 991 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: even buy eggs yet were doing this. I don't I 992 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 3: gotta say, I don't have a real thought to it. 993 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 3: I just know there's no way in hell I hate flying, 994 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 3: so there's no way my ass has ever gone to 995 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 3: space like ever, like, I don't want to see it. 996 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to sky. I don't want to jump 997 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 3: out of a plane. 998 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 999 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to see the world from up there. 1000 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. 1001 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 3: I don't want to have that feeling. I know we're 1002 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 3: I know we're on a very we're small in such 1003 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 3: a big world. I do that piece I felt when 1004 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 3: I went to Ireland and stood by the cliffs of Moware, 1005 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 3: you know, like I've had those moments and for me, 1006 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 3: like you're not gonna I would never, But I don't 1007 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 3: really have much of a thought. So I'm curious what 1008 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 3: you girls think about it. 1009 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 2: Kabi, I don't when you go to space, Okay, no, 1010 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 2: not going to space. 1011 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: My husband would love to go to space. So this 1012 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: is actually. 1013 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 2: I saw this headline and I was like, how do 1014 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 2: I So I'm just going to be honest because there's 1015 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 2: no way for me to frame it that would probably 1016 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: be pleasing to everyone. So Preston was all in watching 1017 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 2: this footage, all in. I mean, this is his dream. 1018 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean I watched it too because I thought it 1019 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 3: was kind of cool to see the rockets go up. 1020 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 3: I made him shut it off October Skygirl. 1021 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: I made him shut it off really yep, talk to me, 1022 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 2: because I said, these are not women that went to 1023 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: school for this. These are not people that have degrees 1024 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 2: and have spent their whole lives careers and financial stability 1025 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 2: learning about space. They are just women that are privileged 1026 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 2: enough to go up, tap space and come down. I 1027 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: think that's lovely for them that they get to live 1028 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: their dream, if that is their dream. I know Gail 1029 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: is very passionate about space. It seems this is her dream. 1030 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: Oprah was even quoted to say she didn't want to 1031 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 2: hear about Gail not going, and so that's why Gail went. 1032 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 2: Sounds like a quote that we would say that one 1033 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 2: about Yeah, Like I just don't even want to hear 1034 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 2: about it to just go. Yeah. I just struggle with 1035 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: how much publicity it gets because there's actual astronauts, women 1036 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: astronauts like I struggle, and so I'm trying to be 1037 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 2: not as like feisty about it, but for it just 1038 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: rubbed me the wrong way, like I was like, got it? 1039 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm trying to like, I don't know. 1040 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: Why I got passionate. 1041 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: Very rarely do I get passionate about like a current 1042 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 2: event made him turn it off. I'd made him turn 1043 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to listen to that anymore. 1044 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: Like this is ridiculous. Rich people just went to space 1045 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: and tapped them, do you know? Like they were there 1046 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: for ten seconds, they floated and they came back down. 1047 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 2: An experience of a lifetime. I'm certain for people that 1048 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 2: that matters to of course, But like all the publicity, 1049 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 2: I don't. 1050 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 1: Even know what was happening. If it tells you anything. 1051 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: Do follow the Wendy's account, Wendy's Twitter account. It's really fun. 1052 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 2: Katie Barry went to space and then Wendy said, can 1053 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: they keep her? 1054 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: There's been a lot around Katie because. 1055 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm curious because I know you go more political on things, so. 1056 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't have a strong I agree with everything you said, 1057 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: though I'm like, wait, why are we doing this? I 1058 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: immediately start to think about and I don't know her name. 1059 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: I apologize. I don't really pay attention to a lot 1060 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: of space stuff. Space is not interesting to me. I 1061 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: don't know what I believe. I just I don't really 1062 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: touch a lot of space stuff. I'll be honest. You could, though, 1063 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: for the right amount of money, that does bother me. 1064 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: What is the woman's name who was just stuck in 1065 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: space for ten months? 1066 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a whole thing. 1067 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: My mind just goes to her. Yeah, I'm sure this 1068 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: woman is like, is this a joke? I just got 1069 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: stuck in space for ten months? And like, but this 1070 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: is the publicity off of this, and like, I don't know. Again, 1071 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't have a strong opinion. 1072 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 2: I did see the creams Sunita, Sunny Williams. 1073 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, yes, yes, So my mind kind of 1074 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: went to her, like she's probably like, oh man, so 1075 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: easy for them to go up and touch it. And 1076 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: I get stuck there for ten months. And I'm an astronaut, 1077 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: you know. 1078 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 3: When I just started a Devil's advocate a little bit, please, 1079 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 3: I think, And again I am. I don't know much 1080 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 3: about space. Nasah what Elon Musk. I think he's involved 1081 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 3: in some of this. I'm not really sure, but I 1082 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 3: always okay, I obey, okay, Besis one of the rich dudes. 1083 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 1: It all comes to the body. 1084 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do believe there's a piece of it that 1085 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 3: might be bringing some kind of awareness because I think 1086 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 3: there should be a presence in space. I want to 1087 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 3: think that that's there's a reason that we should have 1088 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 3: some seeing what's out there and resources. 1089 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 2: And I don't know, like. 1090 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 3: I think two have like, yes, it seems a little 1091 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 3: wild and out there, and like why and yes to 1092 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 3: your point, this poor sunny woman, So I hear all that, 1093 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 3: But I'm also like, is the is the development of 1094 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: doing something like this? Yes, doing the rides up to 1095 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 3: space seems a little bit out there, but maybe there's 1096 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 3: a piece in there that they'll use it for good 1097 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 3: reason and for good purposes, for the use of maybe 1098 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 3: finding other resources out there. 1099 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: So it sounds like I will agree with you. It 1100 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: sounds like whatever the company was or whatever they're trying 1101 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: to raise, correct me, I'm wrong, awareness for making Earth 1102 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: a better place and taking our waste to space. Did 1103 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: y'all read this? There's something about that, But I just. 1104 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 3: That's maybe the positive spin on it, right, which is 1105 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 3: why they're needing this money of these rich people to 1106 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 3: go up there to maybe go do something. 1107 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: So I do think that that is some of the intent. 1108 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: For sure. I think it became, for whatever reason, a 1109 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: huge publicity, not stunt, but a huge pr thing that 1110 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: just didn't sit well with a lot of people, and 1111 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: I think that that's fair. I think both things can 1112 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: be fair. Do I think that we need to be 1113 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: spending all the money to do like a quick No, 1114 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,479 Speaker 1: but di Bezos pay for all of it. I don't 1115 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: even know, like who paid for it, I don't I 1116 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: don't know. 1117 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 3: I want to believe there was a good reason for 1118 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 3: what they're doing and why they're doing things, like, for example, 1119 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 3: people hate on zoos. This is a terrible example, but. 1120 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 2: I get. 1121 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of conservation things. There's a lot 1122 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 3: of rescue people that the certain animals that would have 1123 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 3: been far gone extinct at this moment, but they're you know, 1124 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 3: creating in breeding and all those things to then put 1125 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 3: back out into the wild. So I do think for 1126 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 3: those types of reasons, I always kind of go, Okay, 1127 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 3: what is the full circle? I'll support this, Yeah, And 1128 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 3: then because there is a full circle, they're not just 1129 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 3: ringling brothers, you know, some elephants. So I just wish 1130 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 3: maybe I was trying to have this moment like although 1131 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 3: I missed the elephants and I went to the Ring 1132 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: of the Brothers, I'm just saying, no. 1133 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: Way, that's just got I do. And I'm trying to 1134 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 2: be like, I don't know why it fired me up. 1135 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: I think I just was like, this doesn't like you know, 1136 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 2: like present was like these women went to space and 1137 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 2: I so we quickly went on like a tur day 1138 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: female astronaut at our house, and I was like, these 1139 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 2: are women that have spent like you know, I think 1140 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 2: maybe if they had integrated some of those female astronauts 1141 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 2: and like you know, maybe and maybe they did on 1142 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 2: the backs. I don't know. I honestly didn't watch enough 1143 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 2: of it to you can probably speak about it. But 1144 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 2: I just thought, man, this is it's not showing. It's 1145 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: you know, like somebody was like, oh, if we went 1146 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 2: to space and we dream you can go to space, 1147 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 2: you can go to space, and I'm like, well, you 1148 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,399 Speaker 2: sure can, but let's use you. We're saying. 1149 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 3: And one of the questions was for the amount of 1150 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 3: money it costs in the time, like you know, basically, 1151 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 3: how much would you go to space? 1152 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: How much would you pay? I wouldn't pay. I would pay. 1153 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 3: Your would never like if some almost like here's a 1154 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 3: free trip to space. My anxiety, Oh my god, I 1155 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 3: can't handle. 1156 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: After they just got stuck in space. 1157 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 2: Guys, I can't even stand on a chair without getting 1158 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 2: sweaty hands. There's no way I'm going to space. 1159 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't I feel white. 1160 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 3: Lotus lou Would Amy lou Would says recent crying photos 1161 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 3: were unrelated to esen all controversy. 1162 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 2: Did you guys see the skit? 1163 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 3: I didn't, Oh, I watched it on me, but I 1164 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 3: will say, you know, they were making fun of it 1165 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 3: was a very political sketch. 1166 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 2: It was hilarious. 1167 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was so funny, and I agree with 1168 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 3: her up until they made fun of her appearance. The 1169 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 3: one of the actors as it had a fake set 1170 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 3: of teeth and it was obviously showing she's got a 1171 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 3: bit of an overbite and fake teeth. And so what 1172 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 3: she said was I did find the SNL thing mean 1173 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 3: and unfunny. You know, She's like, there must be a clever, 1174 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: more nuanced, less cheap way, and I agree with that. 1175 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 3: With that beat, it's like there could have been a 1176 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 3: way that you could They could have done that with 1177 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 3: so much more class, Like okay, yeah, poke fund at 1178 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 3: a girl's appearance. 1179 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: Real clever guys, Yeah, no, back to bullying. This is RCT, 1180 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: that's what this is. Yeah, we are making it too like, yes, 1181 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: people are sensitive now it's like both like we are 1182 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: very sensitive to things, but also so not sensitive and 1183 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: just attacking people's looks is bullying. That's not nice. 1184 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 3: Like it's like, you know, I go back to a 1185 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 3: Kardashian episode, but she's like when she got called essentially 1186 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 3: a whoror on the Tom Bradie Race roast, She's like, guys, 1187 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 3: be more creative, Like why are I now just saying like, yeah, 1188 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 3: I think they're just people are just becoming cheap with 1189 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 3: their yeah low shot, Yeah sure, or like that's not funny, 1190 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 3: None of that's funny. Hi, I would love if you 1191 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: could talk about how you got your pink back after babies? 1192 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 2: Guys, what's your bink? Oh? 1193 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: That's something. 1194 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, let's keep reading it. Unfortunately it took me getting 1195 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 2: divorced to do so, and I now have some friends 1196 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: going through right now. They have tiny babies and are 1197 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: feeling the mental pressure that comes with it. I want 1198 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: them to know they aren't alone, but my example isn't 1199 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 2: very helpful. When did you start feeling like yourself again? 1200 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 2: Did you mourn the old jew? How did you get 1201 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 2: your pink back? That's cute, and I'm really cute. I 1202 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 2: feel like that should be. I was thinking like on 1203 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 2: my like boobs or something like. I went. I was like, 1204 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 2: why don't know that it turned anything on bank? But 1205 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: I didn't chicken. 1206 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: So what's the question? I think it's O. 1207 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 2: My dearest reader, great question. 1208 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 3: But did you mourn the old? So when did you 1209 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 3: start feeling it yourself again? Did you more in the 1210 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 3: old old you? How did you get your pink back? 1211 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 3: I would say it took me about a year. It 1212 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 3: took me about a year to get my hormones. I 1213 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 3: feel leveled ish out. I ah, I gos, that's really 1214 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 3: hard because I don't think I'll ever get back what 1215 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 3: I was then. 1216 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 2: Like I'm on year nine. 1217 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: I'll let you know when it comes out. 1218 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1219 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of embracing the changing of me now. 1220 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 3: So it's like I even look at, you know, my 1221 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: non botox face, that's been a year. Uh you know, 1222 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 3: I've looked in the mirror. I'm like, goh, these wrinkles 1223 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: and my my smile lines, and I really definitely notice it. 1224 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 3: But I'm really just trying to embrace this. I am 1225 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 3: forty one, and I want to age gracefully, and I 1226 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 3: know my hormones are changing and I am a young 1227 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 3: mom or I'm an older mom. I mean, and I 1228 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 3: have got young kids, and I'm doing the best that 1229 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 3: I can with doing my blood work and taking the 1230 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 3: supplements and taking care of myself and using the sauna 1231 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 3: and going for runs and walks and all those things. 1232 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 3: And I'm just embracing because I don't want the old 1233 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 3: me back. I didn't like old me. I like new 1234 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 3: me because I'm evolving. So I think if you change 1235 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 3: the mindset to that, it's like I will never get 1236 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 3: her back. I don't know if I'll ever get her 1237 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 3: energy back, but I can try with new things and 1238 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 3: like the saunas and runnings and working, you know, and 1239 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 3: having a positive attitude of mind blah blah. But like, 1240 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 3: I think it's reframing because I don't think I'm ever 1241 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 3: going to get the old face back. I'm not going 1242 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 3: to get the old body, and I don't want to 1243 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 3: chase something that I don't really want back anyways, because 1244 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 3: I like, I'm embracing the newness even though I pick 1245 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 3: it sometimes apart, but I'm trying not to. 1246 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 2: Does that make sense you guys? Yeah? 1247 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay. 1248 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 2: I also think it's good to maybe know what you 1249 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: need as a new mom. Like I think sometimes just 1250 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 2: getting dressed is so good for us that we forget. 1251 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 2: I know I didn't want to do that, but it 1252 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 2: so like there's that overview, which is the best version 1253 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 2: of you is now. It's incredible and deeper and richer 1254 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 2: than anything you could ever imagine. And it's okay if 1255 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 2: you miss hot food, So maybe whatever you need. Like 1256 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I know, there was even a time in this postpartum 1257 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: where I thought, I just want dinner. I want hot 1258 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 2: dinner and a server and even just that. And then 1259 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 2: there was other days where I didn't want to go 1260 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 2: out past six. I wanted to hold them and be 1261 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: with them, and like that's okay too. And so it's 1262 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 2: just like kind of going like really asking yourself, maybe 1263 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 2: what you need, because sometimes I need to feel like 1264 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 2: a girlfriend, So getting dressed and going to dinner and 1265 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 2: having just a minute to not have to share your 1266 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 2: food or you know, there's just so much any little 1267 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 2: daily things too that I think we don't check in 1268 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 2: with on ourselves. 1269 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't even think it has to be 1270 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 3: about a new mom. I think it's just as we 1271 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 3: everybody as we age, as we go through different phases 1272 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 3: of maybe PERI metabause or this, that and the other. 1273 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 2: It's just not chasing a version that we should embrace 1274 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 2: the version we are now. 1275 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well we're always evolving, yeah, or we should be yeah, 1276 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, so, I don't even know if that 1277 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: applies to the getting your pink back, you know whatever, pink, But. 1278 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 3: Your pink didn't really leave you. It's just you know, 1279 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 3: changes a little. It just yeah, the colors change. Eat 1280 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 3: a carrot and you'll turn orange. 1281 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: And sorry, we're not helping's you never get it back, 1282 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: is what she's read. No, but she's heard throughout it's not. 1283 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 3: It's not that you don't get it back, but do 1284 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 3: you want, like, get the pieces that you want back. 1285 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 3: So the pieces that you want back maybe is your 1286 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 3: energy or it's some of your time. Prioritize, like you said, 1287 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 3: those pieces that you want, and then take the new 1288 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 3: and go forward with it, you know. So it's like, 1289 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 3: grab the things that you miss, bring it to your 1290 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 3: now pink self, you know, and then and then embrace 1291 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 3: what is you know, what is new, what is healed, 1292 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 3: what has evolved? 1293 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well and it does say, as I looked it 1294 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: up a little bit more finding your identity. So that 1295 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: is finding what that new identity is. I did struggle, 1296 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: and that can be hard for moms for sure. Yeah, 1297 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: but I think, like you said, the little things get 1298 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 1: yourself dressed at first, Yeah, get up and go out 1299 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 1: figure out this new you and what makes you happy 1300 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and you know. So, I think that just the baby. 1301 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Steps up unintended, but yeah, tiny, All right, ladies, See 1302 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 2: you next week. By