WEBVTT - Sean Strickland Dominates Fluffy | Should He Get Chimaev Title Shot? | Ryan Garcia Redeems Himself 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:06.600 Revel reveally. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:09.120 Look Attle snow. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:22.200 Jesus, you fit in seamlessly in this weird nkn FN. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:40.400 When your box gets set and yeah, a new intro baby, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.839 Hell yeah, brother, what is it the first time you're 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:44.519 seeing that? 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.360 That's the first time I'm saying it. I was actually 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.959 going to start the show today talk just to kind 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.160 of emulate the Brian Campbell voice over there. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.040 But well, that's cool. We need for that, yeah, man, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.320 for that, they have switched it up. Hello everyone, Hello, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.200 on this twenty third day of February twenty six, Welcome 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.959 to Morning Combat. I am merely one half of your 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.319 very very cold and frozen duo. I joined you from 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.440 the capital of the status of Needles right here in Washington, DC, 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:11.720 joined by a man who's got it much worse than me, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.440 who I think. This is a live stream, as you 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.480 indicated on the pre show, Chuck from Planet Hath. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.000 You know on Star Wars, you know that's what it 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:20.560 feels like. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:20.880 Man. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.319 We have like an eight foot plow drift that like 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.360 by my garage here from previous plows that hadn't even 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.280 gone down a little bit from the previous heavy snowfall. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.480 And there's basically a trench in our driveway from the 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.480 snow now that's completely filled in, it looks like it's 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.080 it's there's no the weird thing about this, man, it's 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.080 like a muted earth right now. There's no cars on 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.319 the road out here. It's it's a completely just quiet wonderland. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.280 But dude, it's still coming down and I think we've 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.560 got about twelve twelve to fourteen inches already. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.120 It's this is a bad one. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.840 Wow. Well, we did not get it that bad in 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.200 terms of the snow at all. I think we got maybe, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.400 you know, three, maybe four inches or something like that. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.560 Most of it didn't stick to the ground because the 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.160 temperature of the earth here at least is still pretty warm. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.280 So I had to kind of like push a little 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.399 bit of like snow cover off the ground. It wasn't 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.520 really even shoveling. It is gonna be cold today, it's 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.280 gonna be cool tomorrow. But we didn't get down off. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.839 You got off lightly this time, Luke, I did. I'd 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.160 be glad man Long Island got smoked, and then Boston 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.880 and then like the the the the the Massachusetts area 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.840 more generally due they got freaking destroyed. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.519 It was like horizontal right like there, I was looking 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.040 at some wind factors over there, like we didn't really 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.600 get that if it happened. It was like early in 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.760 the morning, but I was half expecting snow drifts over 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.960 the windows the way they were talking about it, none 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.880 of that. But dude, it is a heavy snowfall. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.600 Well, nevertheless, we made it. Everyone made it. Everyone the 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.720 show here made it. So we're glad to uh to 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.919 have you here at Chuff. We have a lot to 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.840 get to today. We're going to re reacting, of course, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.720 to the UFC show in Houston, where Sean Strickland got 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.360 certainly one of the very best we'll talk about exactly 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.240 how good it was, but certainly one of the very 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.480 best victories of his career, as well as everything else 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.040 down the line in that card. Plus we'll be talking 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:07.640 of course about Ryan Garcia's pretty big win, pretty easy win, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.640 have to be honest with you, over Mario Barrios, and 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.640 a whole lot more we'll do DMS. I think we're 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.320 gonna do a bit of a game. We got a 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.519 lot to get to before we're going to further. Very quickly, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.280 let's bring in the third member of the show here. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.680 He also got smoked by this. Uh this weather storm 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:23.000 here not. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.520 As bad is Jeff Neil Aoh yeah, but dude, I 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.240 got like a foot and a half. It's bad out there. Also, 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.880 I have a covered front porch, so like I shouldn't, 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.280 I normally don't get any snow on my front porch. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.160 I had to shovel like a foot of snow off 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.320 my front porch just from the wind bringing it up there. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:41.120 But not great out there. Fun card this weekend, though, Boy, yeah. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.080 Are you didn't? Are you supposed to get more snow today? 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.000 It's currently snowing right now. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.400 It's not like heavy snow, but it's snowing right now. I, however, though, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.840 can see pavement on my streets, so they're doing a 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.360 good job plowing right now. I gotta go shovel after this. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.280 It's gonna all right, very good. Uh, let's set the 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.160 table here. If you want to follow us on the socials, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.040 we're pretty much everywhere on the MK universe. You know 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.440 where to catch me. I'm on also pretty much everything 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.040 in the social media universe, and you could find Chuck 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.400 over at Instagram as well as X. Don't forget we 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.680 have great march, which, by the way, this is the 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.240 last week for it. This is it. This is the 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.719 February exclusive, the Army of Darkness. It will be only 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:23.240 available until the end of Saturday, basically during UFC Mexico. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.960 By the way, we'll talk about that in just a second. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.040 And of course you can get the poster as well. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.599 Plus we have the two new evergreen items, the Morning 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.160 Combat graffiti logo and then the MK letters with the 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.720 DC flag design in the background. Very quickly, Chuck, I'm 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.480 sure you saw. I mean, I don't know if there 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.279 will be any change, but there was obviously. How do 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.440 we say this, The Mexican government killed a cartel leader 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.640 and the cartel then lashed out and set ablaze portions 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.279 of Porto Yarta and Guadalajara. Now the event is scheduled 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.479 for Mexico City, and I would have imagine that the 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.840 security potential in Mexico City is still pretty good. I 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.640 don't know what that will mean for them, but something 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:06.360 to keep an eye on. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:06.719 Yeah. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.320 When is that card? That card's coming up Saturday. That's 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.000 this Saturday, Okay, Saturday. Yeah, that's crazy man. Yeah, I've 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.760 been seeing all that footage coming out of port of 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.000 I ardbad, what a crazy thing. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.279 Yeah, we'll see. Also if you want to reach the 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.680 show for dead wrongs, for fans, ubs, or just to 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.839 talk to the producers Morning Combat at gmail dot com. 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.599 I don't know if I'm forgetting anything. I don't believe 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.000 that I am. So if that is out of the way, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.520 let's get this party started topic number one, let's talk 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.279 about it. So in the main event of UFC Houston, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.560 in my opinion, well, first of all, as a matter 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.599 of fact, Sean Strickland scores a third round stoppage over 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.200 Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, and he was a surgeon contender. He 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.560 was writing an eight fight win streak. But this is 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.440 my question. I thought that Sean Strickland barely got touched. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.760 I rewatched the fight, Chuck. I couldn't believe just how 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.640 little in the end, even numerically in my more, but 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.520 just visually watching how little Anthony Hernandez could really ever 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.680 get going. You can't argue that Sean Strickland beating Izzy 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.159 taking his title is anything other than his most important 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.679 and you know, certainly most consequential win of his career. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.120 I don't think this win is as good as that 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.280 win for those reasons. But my question to you, Chuck, 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.760 is this, while it's not his most important victory, was 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.919 this the best performance of Sean Strickland's career. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:35.680 I think it might have been. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.920 And you know, part of that is on Fluffy too, right, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.520 because I didn't feel like at any point that Fluffy 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.480 came to life in that fight. You know, his his 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.960 corner was kind of imploring him basically to go in 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.039 there and put him on his back foot a little 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.680 bit at least follow up the one shots with something more, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.880 and you could see the kind of you know, you're mentioning, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.800 didn't he didn't really, he didn't really hit Strickland. The 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.520 couple times he did. There was a flurry in the 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.880 first round, and it was you know, I remember when 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.880 Imovov fought Strickland. He kind of had some success with 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.640 this too, which was kind of just moving in very 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.960 quickly and surging forward and landing those shots. There were 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.520 a couple of moments like that, but for the most part, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.520 I felt like Fluffy really wasn't there, Like he just 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.960 he let Sean basically get comfortable from range and got sniped, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.840 you know, that whole fight. So if you're looking at 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.000 it strictly from that, like I thought the poise, the 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.160 composure that Sean Strickland showed in a fight where maybe 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.240 his back was a little more against the wall than 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.000 it had been, was certainly there. But it's tough, man, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.520 because like, if you're looking at it, I think that 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.120 that's a good It's relevant to bring up the Izziada 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.760 Sanya fight because we it was kind of out of nowhere. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.360 But at that time there was something like I remember 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.280 kind of going on, you know, writing about this and 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.239 saying like, does he have the kind of mental makeup 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.520 I guess to win a championship and to you know, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.360 to kind of carry that because he was one of 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.960 these guys who, like you wanted to his own self 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.000 loathing and things like this, things that you would never 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.280 think about with other fighters. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.280 Would you have that psychology? This one? 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.400 It just felt like he was so dialed in and 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.320 he just kind of he never was really in danger, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.800 controlled the you know, controlled the fight from as long 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.440 as it lasted, and every time there was blood in 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.360 the water man, he smelled it and he pounced. So 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.640 I thought it was certainly next to Izzy as far 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.040 as his best performances. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.440 Yeah, I mean I need to say this because there's 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.000 two basic points I want to make here. So you 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.400 weren't here for Friday's MK, But on Friday's MK, my 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.560 assessment was I've been waiting for Sean's game, which was 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.680 a little bit more defensively oriented than it was offensively oriented, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.840 and I was waiting for that to kind of turn 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.920 a corner because it was kind of holding him back 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.520 in fights that maybe he should have won. The cannoneer 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.920 one is kind of like the pre eminent example of that. Obviously, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.480 I know he had better wins past it, but I'm 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.600 just saying that kind of it exemplified to me some 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.760 of the problems. And of course he lost twice to DVP, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.440 But before the second loss to DVP, my problem was 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.079 I was kind of waiting for him to turn a corners, like, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.679 all right, you beat Polo Costa kind of barely, are 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.880 we gonna get this thing dialed into a place where 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.720 it's got a little bit more offensive potency? And you know, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.000 you can't just change your style. You have to kind 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.240 of be who you are, But are are there some 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.200 things you can add to it? And after the first 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.920 DDP fight and then that kind of not so great 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.240 but he won, but against Polo Costa wasn't that great, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.760 and then he really looked bad against the DDP in 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.640 the second fight, again with some mitigating circumstances. I kind 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.280 of thought, Okay, no, we're not going to get that. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.600 And then he comes out here in this one and 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.880 I thought he did exactly that. Now, obviously the jab 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.440 was the most important weapon that he did, or sorry, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.240 that he used, but there was more than that. He 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.160 was putting combinations together and he was using I mean, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.920 it is so fucking unbelievable to me. I want to 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:52.360 make this point. Look at how for example, with im, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.319 I'm not putting Sean Strickland on the level of a 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.800 guy like Vulk. I mean, both were champions, but Vulk is, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.120 you know, a higher level kind of champion. However, what 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.400 I'm gonna say is, chuck it. Does it not blow 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.840 your mind the difference between guys and in both the 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.959 Vulcan case and in this case largely on the back foot. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:15.960 How if you are able to to methodically use movement 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.760 and space, you can make guys who are actually pretty 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.280 good pretty dangerous on some pretty hot wind streaks, you 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.800 can make them look absolutely pedestrian. The people who know 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:36.520 how to move surgically, thoughtfully continuously. Dude, they mop up 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.080 their competition, do they not. It's crazy. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.800 Yeah, you know you say the word surgical. That's what 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.880 it was, right, Like he was the way he was 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.959 kind of sniping in this fight. It'll reminded me a 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.040 little bit of remember Macheetah in his day would be 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.040 on that backfoot and like he would kind of be 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.720 that backward leaning posture and like he just kind of punished, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.440 he'd move out of the way. Yeah, it was, it 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.400 was very like it was a little there was some 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.760 shades of that right like where you're you're watching him, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.280 and I fully agree with you. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.080 He is fairly elusive. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:02.319 Man. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.280 You take away like the Perira fight, right like something 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.920 like that where he just gets caught right away. He 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.640 generally doesn't. Sean Strickland is one of those guys who 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.920 avoids big damage on hole and especially if he can 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.199 get into a rhythm. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.480 And I thought that that's what he did here. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.080 And part of it, like we were talking about, man, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.600 this is always such a it's such a funny thing 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.480 because we were talking about who who would be the 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.480 better challenge between these between Fluffy and Strickland to go 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.720 against SHAMAIAV and I was basically making the point that 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.680 the dog the dog, and if you look at Fluffy 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.320 like the dog that's in him and his aggression, that's 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.000 probably the more interesting of the two. But you saw 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.200 it shut down and nullified in this fight, Like it 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.600 was almost like he was second guessing himself by the 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.680 by the late first round, all the way through the 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.719 second about how to even approach it. And a lot 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.680 of that, man, is just what you're saying, because he 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.640 was he was he was getting those lay kicks, the 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.559 jab was finding it was just hitting him. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:58.960 I don't think he knew how to close. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.400 I think he only had like one takedown, uh you 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.280 know the one takedown I think attempt take. They credit 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.040 him with one taking attempt, but I don't even I 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.600 mean it was so he was just shut down. Like 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.680 you're saying when you use the word pedestrian, that's exactly 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.280 how it looked to me. It never looked like Sean 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:16.240 Strickland was in danger. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.679 So that was the one point that I wanted to make, 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.599 was simply that I actually a few points. One the 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.000 weaponization of movement. I just want everyone to pay attention 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.120 in main events the people who can use movement effectively 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.880 against if they're matched up with people who can't, it 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.280 is an enormous advantage. That's one. Two. I thought that, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.559 you know again, DDP lost number one kind of a 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.360 languid performance against Paula. Costa looked even worse than the 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.120 DDP rematch. I was like, Okay, well he's not going 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.120 to turn her corner here. And then he was able 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.679 to look I thought, pretty offensively potent, in part because 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.200 he didn't have huge retreats. He was able to put 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.760 combination punching together that little opportunity knee. Obviously, that closed 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.560 the show, or at least closed the beginning of the 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.120 end of the show, so to speak. That was really 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.000 really nice. But the other thing that I wanted to say, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:01.480 and this is the kind of point I want to 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:07.640 really harp on here. Man, dude, it is amazing to 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:12.200 me watching this happen like all the time now, where 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:17.280 younger guys who are surging through the ranks encounter someone 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.839 who's not necessarily over the hill, but certainly a little 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.040 more senior in the division and they just can't break through. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.000 They just can't break through. I don't know, you know, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.719 usually you can look at a matchup, and I think 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.480 this is large. You know, we look at like the 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.480 total expanse of who wins more fights younger guys or 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.920 older guys. Obviously, on balance it's probably going to be 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:42.960 younger guys, but like the number of memorable situations where 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:47.920 we're watching someone who is younger on a hot streak offensive. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.120 I mean, you can say what you want about Anthony 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:55.120 Hernandez in general Saturday notwithstanding pretty offensively potent, and they 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.920 absolutely look like lesser than they simply cannot break through. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.080 And I don't know how new this phenomenon is, Chuck, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.559 but it feels a little I'm not new, as in like, oh, 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.360 it didn't exist before and now it does. No, but 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.640 it feels like the volume on that was maybe out 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.960 a four, and now it's closer to a six, maybe 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:18.600 even seven, where you're just watching young contenders who you 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.000 think might be all this, might be ready to make 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.760 a breakout moment. No, these old dogs in these various divisions, dude, 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.440 they are proving to be super resilient. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.640 Yeah, man, And I mean we saw that a little 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.120 bit with Diego Lopez, right because he comes in and 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.320 we we identified that he needed to do I know 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.480 this joke, you're crazy, like, you know, cutting the cage 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.440 a little better, like the things he wasn't doing. But 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.360 it's like he comes in there and it's it's like 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.200 he got no education from that first fight. But if 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.840 you just look at the whole thing as a whole, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.080 it felt like he was never going to you know, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.120 kind of out wiley, you know, Volkanovsky, and and just 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.320 every time he made even a little bit of adjustment, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.560 you know, Volkanovsky had something for him. It was like 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.240 he couldn't come up with a plan B. I don't 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.640 know if that's exactly the case, but it felt a 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.240 little like that in this fight because you could almost 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.720 feel and you could hear the corner kind of talking 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.720 to Hernandez and basically say, hey man, you got to 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.360 do these things. If you're not going to do that, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.920 we're not going to win this fight. But you could 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.440 see him in real time trying to figure this out, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.840 and he had no answers for this. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:23.400 You know. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.240 The thing that like you look at guys like Sean 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.760 Strickland a lot of times, we like we think we 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.400 identify his ceiling because we've seen him do this thing. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.800 Like you're saying, he has Some people accuse him as 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.160 being a boring fighter, maybe too defensive, like we were mentioning, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.320 but he's been in twenty four Like it's crazy. He's 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.200 been in twenty four fights. This was his twenty fourth 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.800 UFC fight. The guy has stood in there against so 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.440 many people he trains with, you know, monsters in Vegas. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.600 He has like Eric Nixic, right, like who has been 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.840 working with him. These guys, man, they are so prepared 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:58.040 in general for most of anything that they'll see that 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.560 you and also just like you know, what would you say, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.400 like the urgency of it, right like just kind of 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.560 making sure that you understand the moment and you're taking 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.800 advantage of that. Like, I feel like we underestimate some 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.640 of these guys for just the experience they have, you know. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.720 And I think Stricklands definitely. And I didn't realize I 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:14.880 had to go look at this that he had twenty 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.880 four fights. I would have guessed he had more like fifteen, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.200 fifteen or eighteen fights. I didn't realize he'd been in 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:20.280 the UFC quite that long. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.240 Yeah, No, there's no doubt about it. And again it's 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.720 not like like in the case of so for example, 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.080 I I made the calculation for the UFC through twenty four. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.960 Main event that the young not that I thought, you know, 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.120 the ultimate upside of Geche had obviously been higher than 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.000 the ultimate upside of what we've seen to that point 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.280 than Patty, but Patty was so much younger. I thought 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.200 Gegye was kind of on the down swing, and I 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.320 thought that would have made a difference. No, it didn't. Now, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.160 I did pick Vulk ahead of Diego, but that one 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.640 was like, you know, one guy had such a glaring weakness, right, 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.880 you know what I mean where you're like, uh, Fluffy 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.920 didn't seem to me to be like exactly of that 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.000 way yet Sean. Yeah, I'm not comparing him exactly two Vulk, 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.880 But what I am saying is there was there similar 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.600 ish kind of shades of it where a guy is 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.240 using movement and another guy can't keep up. And really, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.640 here's the story of this fight, too, Chuck. First round 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.080 was you know, reasonably competitive. I thought in the end 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.800 Sean got the better of it, maybe to get the 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.800 ten to nine, but you know, it was, you know, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.520 numerically it was pretty similar in terms of the stat totals, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.840 and again a round for Sean, but fine, no big issue. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.320 Fight gets away from Fluffy in round two. That's a 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.760 very clear Sean Strickland round. And then Fluffy comes out 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.880 in round three and tries to do this bit rather 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.520 because by the way, he did a poor job cutting 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.320 him off. Yeah, that was one thing in real time, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.920 I thought he a lot of guys chuck a lot 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.240 of guys, And I've seen this in Mma Diego Lopez 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.240 the exact same thing. They don't do a good job 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.600 of cage cutting. So what they do to make up 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.040 for it is they try to just play what I 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.520 call hurry up offense. I borrowed the term obviously from 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.919 from basketball. They'll play a bit of a hurry up 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.560 or sorry football, well you can use both. Yeah, but 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.760 what they're trying to do is they're trying to they'll 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.680 just stand a little bit closer and they'll throw a 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.639 little bit more. But it's not strategic. It's almost designed 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.880 to force a mistake by inducing panic or a set 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.240 of quick responses that you know, elicit a mistake in 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.480 the process. Right, You're you're just answering so often you 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.720 can't get it right. But that doesn't work against good 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.959 guys either. Because Sean has a way of just defining 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.920 the terms of the fight, Like, what did that fight 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.440 look like to you? Did it look like a fluffy 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.160 fight or did it a look like a Sean stricklight 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:28.720 look like a Sean Strickling fight from the beginning to 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.879 the end. Let me put this quote up on the 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.440 card on the screen. Rather this was fluffy. After the fight, 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:36.920 you guys might have heard this, he said quote. I 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.000 got sloppy. He got caught with an effing knee up 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.159 the center. It's all right, I'm gonna go back to 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.520 the drawing board and I'm gonna get better. You've seen 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.919 what happened when I lost last time. I made big jumps. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.800 It's just time to get back to work fair enough. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.040 It's the right attitude, and I hope that he does. 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.240 But the point I'm trying to make Chuck is he 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.679 couldn't get anything going in around one, not much. He 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.840 got even less going around two and just decided I'm 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.680 gonna play a hurry up stile of offense and then 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.240 got finished for it. Not not ready for a guy 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:05.960 as skilled as Sean Strickland. Not even close. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.359 It turned out, No, And did you get the feeling 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:09.840 like when he says well, I got caught with that 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.320 body shot. I mean, and it was it was a 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.160 great body shot. But did you get any sense that 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.440 the that the tables could be turning at any point 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.359 in this fight? Like that's always the thing, right, Like 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.639 you just see a guy being outclassed, and so then 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.360 then you see kind of like, okay, at least he had. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.480 I guess when you say it's like something like hurry 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.920 up offense, you know, maybe that's what's required sometimes, because 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.840 there was absolutely no disruption to what he was doing, 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:37.800 and Sean Strickland was just doing what he wanted. I 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.320 think he doubled him. And this is when he's at 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.399 his very best, is when he can kind of double 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.640 you up on strikes and just kind of keep hitting 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.560 you with the jab and keep you at range. And 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.359 like he was able to keep doing that. I give, 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.720 I guess, in some way fluffy credit for saying, like, well, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.560 let's just see if I just go in with with 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.280 a little bit more abandoned, if I might be able 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.760 to disrupt the rhythm of what he's got going on 0:19:58.800 --> 0:19:59.920 and see if something might happen. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.159 But obviously. 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.000 That did not work, because that was like the one 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.480 moment he came forward right like that. That body shot 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.119 was him coming forward and trying to do that, and 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.760 and that was effectively the end of the fight. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.000 It's weird. Fluffy has a pretty good chin, but his 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.160 durability to the body is there's no This is by 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.880 my account at least the fourth fight where he's been 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:22.840 rocked by a body shot. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.880 That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point, Like. 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.800 You're at this point now where yeah, you'll notice there 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.280 was that one exchange in round one where Sean put 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.399 that combination together and got the better of Fluffy in 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.800 a brief moment if Fluffy just smiled and walked into him. Yeah, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:40.440 but but then you get hits to the body and 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.119 then it closes the show. And I think you have 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:43.800 to give Strickling a little bit of credit here. Again, 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.080 I sorted sort of my point out by saying this 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:51.160 at the top, which was for a guy at MMA. 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.480 In boxing you can have a style that's a little 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.160 bit more defensive based and getting really well. I think 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.280 that that is a limit. There's a limit that in 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.040 mma in ways that it's not true in boxing. So 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.800 you need to be more offensive than you are defensive. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.400 And to me, what this fight showed was Strickland still 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.560 has a little bit of some tricks up a sleeve, 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:15.359 where he is still kind of fine tuning the process 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.600 to be able to deliver more offense off of an 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.360 inherently defensive style in ways it honestly, he hasn't really 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.760 done that. I mean, again, this is his to me, 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.640 this is his best stoppage win. This is his best 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.520 stoppage win. For sure, it's his best stoppage win. But 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:32.879 the way in which he looked so languid in the 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.000 last three fights and then looks so potent here, you 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:37.199 have to give him credit, you really do. 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:38.800 Yeah, who was it? I think it might've been. 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:40.879 DC was trying to point out, like, if this version 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.560 of Sean Strickland shows up to the cage, he can 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.120 compete with anybody, including Shamaiev. I mean, I know we're 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:47.399 going to talk about that in a minute, but like 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.560 that is that is a question, right because you're always 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.280 like where's this guy's head? You know a lot of times, 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.440 and even in this particular, in this one, like he 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.760 goes to Houston, what does he do? He makes all 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:00.240 these headlines for all the wrong reasons. He puts a 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.520 very strange kind of vibe to the fight and almost 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.840 like an expectation that you it's gonna be hard to 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.119 live up to. Uh he you know, he kind of 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:11.560 did this with the Easy Fight too, and then he 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.399 goes in there he puts all that aside and just 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.520 like puts on that show that's you know, it's it's 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.080 been very it's adventurous with him in that sense, like 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.000 you just don't know what you're getting from fight to fight. 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.080 And I do believe he's one of those head cases 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.520 that you know, I know we're talking about Ryan Garcia 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:28.960 later on, Like you know, it's like one of those 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.520 guys that you the unpredictability is just that you're not 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.120 sure where his head is, you know what I mean. 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.000 Like when he goes into a fight in this particular one, 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.600 it looked like he was so dialed in that you're like, yeah, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.600 that that version of Sean Strickland would be fun to 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:40.880 contemplate against anybody. 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.400 It's incredible to watch. I kind of want to put 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.119 this topic to bed as we move on, we'll talk 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.359 about the what's next for the division? Well, actually, you 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.840 know what, before we do that, very quickly, I gotta 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.719 I gotta be Okay, So, as I mentioned, I'm making 0:22:56.760 --> 0:23:00.320 these mistakes where I ordinarily you can kind of rely 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.640 on youth to begin to really surge through, and they're 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.439 having a tough time breaking through in MMA. But we 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.160 also got to be careful on the other end, Chuck, 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:13.919 which is again Diego Lopez had like no cage cutting 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:15.399 in the first fight, and they make him fight him 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:20.000 again without a ton of time necessarily to work into that. Now, 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.480 he also looked he didn't put any effort into fixing 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.560 what was wrong, which is a different problem. But the 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.000 point I want to make is if we're going to 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.920 posit that the younger guys, and Fluffy's not super young, 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.600 he's thirty two, and I think Showan thirty five or 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:35.199 something like that, but thirty four maybe, but you know, 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.760 certainly more experienced, and yeah, there longer. If we're going 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.399 to posit that the young guys can't break through, it 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.120 also is kind of going to be true in many 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.359 cases that we have to wait for the younger guys 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.080 to also maybe become kind of old guys themselves or 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.639 at least you know, war horses before we can really 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.199 conclude what their ultimate upside would be. I mean, he 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.120 it might just be Hernandez just needs a little bit 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.800 more time, which is crazy to say at thirty two. Yeah, 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.120 but it really just be the case. I'm not ready 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:04.960 to bury him. Yeah. 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.879 And sometimes it's like when we're talking about a guy 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.480 like Fluffy, it's the fresh blood, not necessarily like the 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.640 young gun, but like a fresh blood who hasn't really 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.360 been in the big fights, and he's like now you're 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:14.359 finally getting to see him in. 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:14.720 The big things. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.840 Because with like Raphael Phazi, for instance, like going against 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.560 Justin Gaichee, I remember, I was like that he's going 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.760 against the guy who's on his way out and this 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.800 guy's on his way up in Physie and they fight 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.720 twice and both times Geichee wins this fight. You almost 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.600 understood physique Like I feel like that that established like 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.320 like his baseline are okay, we understand now that maybe 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.760 he's not cut out for the top. It really was informative. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:41.520 And then when you look at a guy like Ben 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.600 while Saint Denis who like took on you know, uh, 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.720 Dustin Pourier in that fight, and you see him kind 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.479 of falter and all of a sudden gas himself out 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.440 and all of a sudden he's getting beat Like he's 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.880 not the youngest guy, but like he's the fresh face, 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.920 the guy who's coming up. He has way less experience 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.880 and way less fights in the UFC, and you feel 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:00.760 like they hit these markers and you're like, okay, now 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:02.760 we gauge them for real, like we find out can 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.880 is this guy really ready for the upper echelon? 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.040 And that's kind of what we're at with this one man. 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.040 And just like in all those cases I felt, and 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.639 especially the Volkanovsky case, Strickland held court, you know what 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.400 I mean, like, and that's that's one of those things 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:16.880 when you when you see it, you're like, hey, man, 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.040 like you can you can think of what you want 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.240 about a guy like that. But as a fighter, it's 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.560 very validating to kind of show at thirty four years old, 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:24.960 to show up and put on that performance. 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.520 Now, one of my rules is that when a fighter wins, 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.360 you know, it's their turn to say what they want 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.280 to say before the fight. I'm a little bit less 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.520 interested in that, but certainly after the fight, if you win, 0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:38.400 it's your turn to talk. Interestingly enough, they cut his 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.440 mic at the post fight press conference to take a look. 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.840 At this You got Colby like the pretend you know, 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:47.359 the pretend Republican, but like, who's really like entertaining? You 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.240 got Jamaia of the fucking go fucker, Like, who's really 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.320 who's really entertaining in this division? 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:54.000 Nobody? 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.960 So good? 0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:03.000 Oh that's wrap. Anyway, this straight. 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.960 Up cut his mic. That should have done that in 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.520 the here's my reaction to this, which is two things. 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.840 One people were like, oh, no way UFC would do this. 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:15.840 Paramount did this. No chance, Not a chance on earth 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.600 that the UFC gets told to cut a fighter's mic 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.160 by the media partner. If you know anything about the UFC, 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.600 especially the UFC, you know that that is not even 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:31.080 something you could contemplate. Not a chance that's happening. Number one. 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.879 Number two, Chuck, I think that there actually might be 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.600 a little bit more going on here. In other words, 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.800 Dana made comments we'll look at those in just a 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.359 second where he was saying, oh, you know, it's a 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.560 nightmare to deal with, and he blames the media. We'll 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.359 take a look at it just a second. But the 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.159 bigger point is he was going after one of the coaches, 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.760 Jim West, who was the head corner there for Fluffy 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.560 Hernandez and I guess he. I don't follow the personal 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.280 lives of anyone in MMA in any so this was 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.280 news to me that I guess he's dating Aspen Ladder 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.520 or they had at some point in a romantic relationship. 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.199 And then Sean makes an accusations against him, which I'm 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:09.680 not even going to repeat. But the point I'm trying 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.760 to make is it's at least worth considering the UFC 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.680 because it was just before this clip he was doing it, 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.119 then he gets into the Chimaya of part and then 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.840 they cut it. It's at least worth considering that. Maybe 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.439 they cut it a little late, yes, but to protect 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.160 them from him being sued potentially or the UFC from 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.680 being named in a suit for Jim West from Jim Well, 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.240 I'm not saying that Jim West is going to do it. 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.600 I'm saying that might have been preventative on that side, 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.840 rather than Hey, we're just tired of his speech and 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.880 we're going to cut it. What's your read on this situation? 0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.439 Yeah, I mean, I dude, I like, I've talked to 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.080 the UFC back, you know, a long time ago before 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:46.680 he ever got a title shot, and he was being 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.159 you know, he was kind of working his weapon, and 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.240 I'm like, is there hesitation to kind of put him 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.840 in this spot because you have a loose cannon essentially 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.919 on the microphone. Who's going to offend a lot of people? 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.800 And they're like yes. They were basically like, yes, this 0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.960 is a concern of ours. So this isn't something new. 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.959 And you know, do you remember UFC one hundred Brocklesner, Right, 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.200 Like Brocklesner, he comes in, he gets the big victory 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.120 of Frank mar Revenge is the previous loss. He gets 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:12.959 up there and he started So bud Light was their 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.440 connection to the rest of the sporting role. Bud Light 0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:17.399 was the most legitimate thing in the UFC at that 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.760 time other than making it to that Hallmark event. Right, 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.280 and he says, I'm gonna go drink some corps Light 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.199 because bud Light don't pay me. And he says this 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.000 whole spiel, remember this, And it was like, you can 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.960 say anything, you can say anything, but when you start 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.719 going at the moneyman, Dana White had to track him 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.000 down backstage three you know whatever it is, two hundred 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.679 and eighty five three hund pounds man go in his 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.760 face and get in his face and basically yell at 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.600 him like and reprimand him about that. And this was 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.160 a big deal at that time because you know bud 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.080 Light being what is Sean Strickland and the pre Like, 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.160 when Dana's pissed off, he's probably pissed off only at 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.080 the Paramount Plus. Really when he's like Paramount plus and 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.920 he was like, yeah, man, they ruined Halo, and you know, 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.920 he starts going on about fuck fuck them and all 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.640 this stuff, and I'm like, that's the shit that will 0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.080 really piss Dane off is when you go at the moneyman, 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.640 the people, you know, especially this early in the relationship. 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.000 I feel like all the rest of that stuff they 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.200 try to live with, but that's the stuff that really 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:10.680 gets them. 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.240 Can I tell you, I don't believe it actually bothers them. 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.600 They might say that to you, I'm not telling you 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.000 that you're dying, but then they use it promotionally. Then 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.840 Connor does insane stuff like Connor gets it. Connor gets 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.640 found liable for sexual assault in Ireland and their response is, 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.400 why would you even ask me a question about that? 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.840 I know, why would I? Yeah, here's why I would 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.160 ask you about it. I don't know nothing about that 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.280 you know, he just yeah, what is that? 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.240 I don't listen to hip hop? You know, it's like 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.440 what and so you know, it's like and then when 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.600 they when Sean was in Australia, they turned it into 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.560 a thing they wanted to promote, like, oh, come see 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.720 this guy get you know, messed up. They took the 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.720 front page of the Australian media reacting to Sean and 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:54.720 like this. I don't know what the evidence would be 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.240 that they're actually bothered by it. Again, This one, to 0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:01.040 me is interesting because I'm I'm guessing that it's lawsuit related, 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.600 but I don't know that either could be. But I 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.800 just don't actually buy that they're sick of his speech. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.280 I really don't. I'm sorry to tell you that. 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.480 But do you think that like the Paramount, Like, I mean, 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.360 I feel like that's the point. I'm sure paramount is 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:12.560 like what the fuck is this? 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.160 Right? But it's like, dude, y'all paid seven point seven 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.680 billion for this. This was not the first time Strickland 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.920 has done this, you know what I mean. It's like 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:21.240 fucking tons of tape on this. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.080 It's not like and each time it's crazier and crazier, right, 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.560 Like and the Toronto thing. It was like it was 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.400 out of hand. But yeah, you're d you know, blaming uh, 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:30.080 blaming us. 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.400 Yeah, if you if you ask dumb questions. 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.000 I don't think a lot of people expected Strickland to 0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:36.760 look as good as. 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:37.160 He did tonight. 0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:38.720 I know the answer to this. 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.720 But right when you look at Strickland and what comes 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.360 next to him, you know he's calling for a hams 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.560 At fight stuff like that. There's no like what he 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.840 says during media day and things of that that doesn't 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.120 affect your booking of him, right, you're still happy to 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:49.520 put him in. 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.520 Those It's a nightmare at the time. Mean, but you 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:55.240 guys don't help asking him dumb shit. You know, ask 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:59.160 dumb shit, You're gonna get dumb shit. Would you think 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.360 of bad Buddy? Would you think of the Super Bowl? 0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.080 The fuck out of here? You're fucking kidding me. Yeah, 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.840 So when you talk about what Strickland says, you guys 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:08.880 like to push the buttons. 0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.120 Fair enough, chuck your reaction. 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.680 Did the media bring up bad Bunny? I'm asking you, 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:17.920 did they bring up bad Bunny? 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.920 So my understanding is my understanding is some of it 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.200 was brought up that he went into but a lot 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:28.800 of it was also just Sean taking liberties. Yeah, Riz Zone. Yeah, 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.240 it's kind of the point, right, because even in other situations, 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.280 you'll ask him like, hey, here's a standard question about 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.280 blow so and so, and then they'll answer it and 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.000 then just going on a tangent, you know what I mean. 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.760 Yeah, I mean the bottom line is we work in 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.000 the media, and everybody knows how it works. You're going 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.760 to ask questions that get, you know, to provoke a response, 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.760 and especially with a guy like that, you're gonna set 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.080 him up. You're gonna let him trip over himself if 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.920 he needs to, like they're going to do that, and 0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.920 but to reprimand them, like it's like you can't do 0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.960 an equal reprimand on this. It's like the you know, 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.960 you have a guy an independent contract, not employeed, but 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.400 like you have a guy that is representing your company, 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.480 and if you're going to reprimand anybody, it's got to 0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.400 be him, right, Like it's you gotta say, hey, man, 0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.240 tone it down. I know they've had this discussion with 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.920 him in the past, but it's it seems funny because 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.200 it's almost like guys don't ask him question. I mean, 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.800 that's ridiculous, right, Like, don't ask him questions where it 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.480 might be a trigger for him to go off on 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.760 a tangent. That's just that's like, that's like. 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:30.200 It's an impossible state. It's impossible to meet that. It's impossible. 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:30.640 You know. 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.680 It's like, it's not the Meetia's fault that he is 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.080 a loose cannon. I mean, it's just the dude's gonna 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.200 say it anyway. Even if you didn't ask him something 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.720 directly that you know you're trying to get some crazy response, 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.920 he's gonna take it there. He's done it a million times. 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.760 Can I tell you how many times I've talked to 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.360 media members at major outlets who've done interviews with him 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.640 during five weeks. This is like not a new thing 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.400 at all. And then they do the interview and then 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:55.800 they can't use it because he would go off on 0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.800 tangents about muslums or something like that, and they're like, well, 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.200 we can't use it of this. This has happened. I've 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.120 heard this kind of story from people who work in 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.880 major media outlets for years. At this point, it is 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.720 hardly new. But it's not even the point. My point 0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.680 is just this, it's like it's like, Dana, what is 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.440 it that you expect from the class of media that 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.520 you have curried, favored with and or rejected. What is 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.600 it you expect? I mean, I'm not defending all the 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.440 questions that they asked. I think a lot of them 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.520 are stupid and useless and otherwise a waste of time. 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.959 But the ones who don't do that, you guys have 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.600 mutumboed for years at this point like this is just 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.719 what you have left yourself with, you know. And then 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.440 other part too, is it's like, okay, well then if 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.800 you ask other kinds of good questions that are questioning 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.720 of power, they don't like that, you know what I mean, 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.240 It's like, yes, what they just basically look, listen, here's 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.120 the reality. And this is this is to me like 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.080 why partly I stopped going to events, but also definitely 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.200 stop going to press conferences, which is what they want 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.200 the media to do. And a press conference is like 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.960 a perfect example. A press conference does not I mean, 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.959 on occasion, it can. In general, it is not designed 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.400 to have the fans there. And my point is I 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.560 don't even have a problem with the fans being there, 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.640 but it doesn't become a press conference at that point 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.120 it becomes a pep rally and or or you know, 0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.400 some other kind of performative act for the public. And 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.080 if that's what you want to do, I swear to God, 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.239 I have no I have no uh, I have no 0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.640 opposition to that. It's totally fine. But if you want 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.200 the media to interview the fighters, uh in a way 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:31.240 that like generates anything worth a shit of actual interest, uh, 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.719 it has to be one or the other. And what 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.800 they want the media to do is to be performative. 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.680 Who like you ever seen the volleyball You get, like 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.520 what three hits a side. You get one to catch it, 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.759 one to push the ball over, and then one for 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.399 the guys spike three hits the side. What they want 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.040 you to do is be the guy that pushes the 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.160 ball up so then the other guy can come and 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:51.920 smack it. That's what they want. They want you to 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.600 serve as a de facto piece of the ufc PR 0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.719 machine rather than what your job is. And if you 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.880 go either on the frivolous side, hey, hey, shol always 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.360 think about bad money. I admit it is a stupid question, 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:05.440 I certainly. 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.359 Find but you know you're gonna get yeah, yeah, But. 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:08.799 On the other side, if you go even the other 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.680 way where you're challenging power, well then you also get 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.399 you your your job to them is to play a 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:18.080 very very narrow role of helping them advance their interests. 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.439 Anything to the contrary of that they lose their mind. 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.520 Well, they whittle away everything, like you said, and they 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.480 keep what they consider the arm of their own brand, 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.000 right like they they just wanted to kind of stand. 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:31.160 I can remember going to uh, you know, UFC's in 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.479 the one hundreds, you know, like below before UFC one fifty, say, 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.600 and the UFC people would they were very very chummy 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.040 and they would come up and they be, hey, can 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.319 you uh can you ask you know, John Fitch a question? 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.359 Can you because nobody appear right. 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.719 They want you to cut, they want you to participate, 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.239 and I get all that, I get all that, but 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.040 like there's nothing to say that They're not going to 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.600 be like, hey can we uh you know, there's an 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.920 expectation in place at some point to kind of make 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.480 it more of an entertainment thing, right like, so especially 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.680 with the life crowd. So the way it's the vault 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.759 is not surprising as all. I'm trying to say, you 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.080 know and now also when Dana said, dude, do you 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.319 ever see pulp fiction? When with Samuel Jackson's like, if 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.879 my answers frighten you, Vincent, maybe you should cease ask 0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:12.120 and scary questions. 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:12.680 You remember that. 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.239 It's like that some reason I heard that. When he's 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.560 talking about that, I'm like, dude, it's just not the 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.520 way it works. You know, it's not the way it works. 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.720 You have, like you have a guy and it's almost 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.200 he's almost like this momentum like it's almost like a 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.960 comedy where somebody's like they mortify themselves more and more 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:28.200 the more they talk, and they're like, oh my. 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:29.080 God, why am I saying that? 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.640 But he never has that moment of self reflection, or 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.960 if he does, you know, he's he's like he's then 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.319 he's becoming like that try hard type of guy who's 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:39.879 just gonna roll it out as long as far. 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.640 As he can, right, yeah, oh yeah, that's the best 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.319 part is like, you know, the the issue is not 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:48.279 necessarily what Strickland said, but that's someone asked him. It's like, yeah, 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.040 I don't. I don't think that's how personal responsibility works, 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.560 but what do I know? All right? Question Number two, 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.320 let's talk about what might be next for the winner 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.520 and also Hernandez two. To an extent, let's let's focus 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.040 on Strickland. So now that Strickland has that's the Hernandez 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:05.080 and did so with authority, Chuck, the question for you 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.560 is what should the UFC do with the matchmaking for 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.840 the middleweight title. So here's the issue. Now, Sardini Imovov 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:12.880 has won five fights in a row, while Strickland is 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.440 coming off of certainly a very excellent win, but it 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.080 is numerically technically speaking, it's on a one fight win streak. 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.319 It's not even a streak. You gotta win two that 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.960 they wouldn't be a streak. So should UFC not? Will not? Could? 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:31.120 Question is Chuck should should the UFC grant Strickland a 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:31.800 title shot? 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:34.040 The should part? 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.640 Right like, I no, I feel like Imovov has like 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.200 put himself in that position. I know he has the loss, 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.200 and I guess if you wanted to do the strict math, like, 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:43.400 he has that loss, but it did come out of 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:44.759 two hundred and five pounds, right like that was a 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:48.600 different different time, different weight class. Strickland did beat him, 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:49.960 So I guess you could point that out if you're 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.040 trying to justify it, but generally speaking, if you're just 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.040 looking at what's been happening over the last couple of 0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.960 years within the division, Imovov has put himself in that 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.279 position that the problem is that you now have two guys, 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.160 and I guess this isn't really a problem, like you 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.040 have two guys who are competing for the same space. 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.640 The UFC is gonna have to make a decision. But 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:12.000 it's like Sean Strickland's concerns are actually legit on this one, 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.480 and that Shamaiev doesn't really fight all that off and 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.879 he started off fighting a lot, but now that he's 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.839 the champion, I don't get the sense that he wants 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.839 to fight more than like maybe once a year. He's 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.640 got a lot of different Obviously, he had his visa issues. 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.279 Hopefully those are resolved with the what's going on in 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:30.080 our presidency and all that, Like he's got that resolve. 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.200 But you know, he's one of those guys, he's the 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.280 Ramadan thing. He's got a lot of He's frequently injured 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.919 or dealing with something. So to get him in there 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.279 and whoever gets that shot, you know it's going to 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.560 be you better make the most of it, right, Like, 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.120 you better make the most of it. And Imovov has 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.799 put himself in that spot. I'm just like, if you're 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.040 saying the should in the meritocracy sense, he's the guy. 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:52.080 But I don't. 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.680 I know, the UFC doesn't operate, so they don't operate 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.440 off as should right Like we saw that in the 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:57.279 first couple of pay. 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.799 Per views or numbered cards to start the year. 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.320 Here's here's the issue for me. It's like, again on paper, 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:09.320 whose resume. I mean, Sean's got a better resume because 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.120 he was a champion, obviously, But I'm saying in terms 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.920 of okay, we're asking who has put together the requisite 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.360 amount and type of wins in the middleweight division to 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.920 be the most deserving of a title shot. If we're 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.640 asking that question, the answer is only Imovov. But here's 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.000 the problem for me, Chuck, this is the issue. Number one. 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.240 We've kind of talked about the fact that the UFC 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.680 really is looking around the American landscape and they're saying 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.520 to themselves it's a little bearing out here. We got 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.360 to do something to promote some of the interests of 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:40.719 the of the American market to to you know, for 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.120 any number of reasons, and so that's obviously going to 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.960 benefit Sean. The fact number two that they have a 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.480 history together training, beefing with one another. You know whereas 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.799 Imovovin and Hamzad I think are not not suit Well, 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.480 they've been chummy at times, but you know they're not. 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.280 It's certain you're certainly not going to get the heated 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:03.080 rivalry that war with Strickland. Here's the other problem I 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:07.719 have with Imovov. I don't know if I would pick 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.160 either Strickland or Imovov to beat Jamayev. But if I 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.600 had to pick one of them to beat Jamayev, it's 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:19.880 definitely Strickland. Yeah, that is I just don't believe Imovov 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.279 can beat them. And that and the problem with that logic, Chuck. 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.120 And this is the really wetest situation is so sticky 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.640 is that like you got to be as a matchmaker 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.480 and a promoter. Your job is to put on the 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.560 fights that people want to pay money to see. That's 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.880 the job. But you have to honor some level of 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.520 meritocracy to kind of keep the whole thing together. But 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.240 of course you can go outside of that all the time. 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.319 This is a weird situation, Chuck, because they didn't give 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.680 it to Arman curryukin they gave an opportunity to Patty 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.839 and that was outside the meritocratic system. Same thing at 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.239 one five on this one. But if they went with 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.080 the guy who was the most meritocratic, to me, it's 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:03.240 the least suspenseful. How Ever, you can't award title shots 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.960 based on what you think all the time. Anyway, Oh, 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.680 this will just be more fun, Like a champion has 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:13.160 got to defend on some level against the most deserving guy. 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:15.840 So like, don't get me wrong, if they put Strickland 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:17.080 in that fight, I'll be like, well, this is a 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.279 much better fight. At least in theory, it's a much 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.960 better fight. But at the same time, it's like, I 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.400 don't know what. They can't solve both of their problems 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.400 at once. They can't solve a problem of like we 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.640 got to be down the line with the matchmaking, or 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.440 we got to make the fights that are the most compelling. 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.919 This one there, I think in direct contradiction with each other. 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.239 And you know what, if they're going to make em above, 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.719 wouldn't they already be like wouldn't they already kind of 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.920 be making it Like, wouldn't they Like I feel like 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.160 they're waiting to see. Now, maybe it was from a 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:48.640 Fluffy from that perspective of like if Fluffy gets through whatever, 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.080 But when a guy comes through like this, and we 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.840 know the recency bias obviously of the the the UFC 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.839 and the fan base, like if he gets through on 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.560 a fight like this, suddenly you know people are talking 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.399 about you again. This version of Sean Strickland is very 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.920 fun to think about. But I do I think if 0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:06.960 you're looking at straight from like blood feud and I 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:08.719 point this out, and I don't know if it's just 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.640 me like a figment of my imagination, but the Paramount 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.520 Plus thing seems like they're bringing more like it's more cinematic. 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:17.400 It's almost like they're trying to kind of have it. 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.840 Wouldn't go so far as say like the w W storylines, 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.200 but they love these feuds, right, I feel like this 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.160 is what they're embracing. And if you're doing that, then 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.320 the Sean Strickland, I mean, it is fun to think 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.080 if you take out all the hatred and misogyny and 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.000 all that, it's fun to think of him just focusing 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:36.520 on a guy like Shemaiah and you know the levels 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.919 of irritation and disrespect that he would do that. That's 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.120 fun because right now you have a guy who looks 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.960 invincible in that division. So if you put those two 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.040 things together in terms of a hype package, I think 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:48.640 that that would that would be the seller. 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.680 Right, Let's go to our friend Long Island Luke here 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:53.319 for just a second, Long Island Luke, how do you 0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.640 solve this problem? How do you figure out a way 0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.399 what is the right answer to On the one hand, 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.960 one guy is from the traditional ways in which we 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.160 measure eligibility. One guy has got a better case than 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.440 the other. But the guy who's got the worst case 0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.680 has a much better case for a bigger fight and 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:11.359 a better fight. 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.520 As in the end, I kind of disagree with you. 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.360 I don't think it's going to be a better fight 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.400 than I Mavov, like, I think Amavov is kind of underrated. 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.200 I'm not giving either guy a chance against Tamayo. That's 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.200 just the reality. I think Strickland's gonna get his ask kick, 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:27.920 and I think Amavov's gonna get his ass kicked. And 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:29.560 when I say ask kicked, he might just get laid 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.040 on for twenty five minutes. But you know what I mean, 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.640 I don't favor either guy in that, so, like I'm 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.759 of the old belief, give it to Imvov he deserves it. 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.160 Sean doesn't fucking deserve it Off of one win. I 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.359 put a pole in the chat. Who does everyone think 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:46.600 Sean should fight next? It's overwhelmingly Hamzad, But personally I 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.800 think it should be winner of RDR Bohalio get another 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.960 solid win in that, and then that's the right thing. 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.239 I mean. I can't even argue with the logic of it. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:56.799 I just can't chuck, you know what I mean. I 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.840 can't say anything like yes, that probably would make more sense, 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.879 but I disagree with long Island. Like I don't see 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.239 Chimaya of laying on Strickland for twenty five minutes. I 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.480 can see him laying on on on Imovov for twenty 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.120 five minutes. I don't see it that way. 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.680 Because you think Strickland would put up too much of 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.560 a resistance like he would not be or do you 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:17.759 think he would fight a different fight? 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.719 I think he was. What I think is could I 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.680 see a world where he is largely controlled through that 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.759 so that you know he doesn't get enough offense for 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.560 it to really even matter. Sure, but like flat on 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.480 his back, like you saw his DVP. No, I don't. 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.640 I just don't buy that. Whereas Imovov Mavov has been 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.600 taken down a lot, has been held down a lot 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:41.759 like yeah, I don't buy that at all. Let's put 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.319 up some of these. Let's put up you know what, 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.440 Let's talk about this a little bit. Let's talk about 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:51.520 Strickland on On potentially facing im because remember Strickland's gotta 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.000 win over imov right, what if Strickland has to fight 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:58.960 him again for whatever? Here's the question. If if Hamzat's 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.480 not ready, then what they might end up doing is 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:06.720 a rematch between Strickland and Imovov for the interim title. 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:08.959 Strickland kind of talks not so much about the interim 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.480 title per se, but the rematch. 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.040 There's a tweet, an interesting tweet that came out from 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.000 your pal, mister nasadinam evolved. 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.400 He says, my dream bring me the clown for the crown. 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.440 Listen, dude, I've moved past you. You know you uh 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.880 I beat you. Relax, Either you get the belt or 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.080 I get the belt. Once you get the bell, take 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.319 it from you. Once I get the belt, you loose 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:33.600 to me. 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.359 Not that interested in it fair enough. Yeah, but here 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.680 is now Sean talking about training with Hamzad Sedd. 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.239 He tapped you out. That's why you hate it, bro. 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:47.160 I made him quit training witnesses in the audience, Where 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:47.919 where's air again? 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:48.600 I made him quit. 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:52.200 We're doing positional grappling, all right, start on my back, 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.319 and I was like, first round, I let him fucking 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.799 choke me because it's like, like, no one gives a fuck. 0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.160 Let me tell you about this little bitch. I'll tell 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.919 you when I walk into a gym. Do you think 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.160 that I go find the little weakest man. I say, 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.320 let's spar I say no, I go find the biggest, 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.799 baddest motherfucker. I'm like, hey, I want to spar you. 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.680 Every time Chamaia would walk in the gym, he would 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.200 pick the smallest, lowest level pro and say, but oh 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.200 he he, he looks like my opponent. You're beating the 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:20.920 fuck out of it. And this is a true story. 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.480 You guys could back me up my team. Chamaiav's a 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.080 fucking bully and if you notice what he does in 0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:28.880 the division, he just runs and fucking hides. Oh now 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:30.520 I want to go to two oh five and fight 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.719 fucking year. Here's not even the fucking champ. Dude, you 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.880 just run and fucking hide. You did it when you 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:38.120 train with us, and you're doing the fucking division now. 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.200 I don't know if that's true, but that's a lot 0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:43.800 more interesting, yeah than the pitch for Nessardini movel what 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.640 I mean, It's well, yeah, inherently far more interesting to me. 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.080 And this, of course is Chimaia's response, Habibi, calm down. 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.480 I destroyed the guy who beat you twice, American bitch, 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:59.040 which is also true. He also he also was way 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.480 better than the guy that sewn Shirkland went ten rounds 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.920 with and could not defeat. I don't know, like this is. 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:06.560 I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do, Chuck. 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.239 This is why, this is this is my problem, Chruck. 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:14.160 This this is why when in a lesser situation, when 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.200 you have a chance to give a title shot to 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.239 a guy, you should do it, because here you have 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.080 a situation where a guy is very deserving of it, 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:24.200 but the guy who's not as deserving of it is 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:28.160 such an obviously better choice for the fight. But now 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.200 it just doubles down on the mistakes they've been making 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.920 in other divisions to give guys title shots that they 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.600 didn't deserve. So it feels like a little bit of 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.080 continuity there in the end. But you know, I don't 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:39.400 think the fans will care. I really don't know. 0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:43.320 I understand of the three that we're talking about, Shamia, 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.439 Beam of Bov and Strickland, which one do you think 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.520 that the UFC is like we most want to be 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:49.960 in business with, you know. 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.040 What I'm saying, because you get Strickland. 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.239 He moves the needle, but it's like it comes with 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:57.040 such a such a bag of asterisks, right, like you're like, 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.200 oh my god, this guy like he does all these 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.880 things we have hums out, which I think is like 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.640 he carries that mystique that weird what if. But also 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.520 he's he doesn't fight often, you know what I mean. 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.400 Like it's just it feels like it's kind of he 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:11.240 dies on the vine a little bit by the time 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.799 that goes by and then they move off. Who's just 0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.520 really has the you know, he has been very good, 0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:18.040 like that Israel out of son. Youa fight when he 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:19.319 knocked him ot with the right hand or he hit 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.719 him with that right hand should have delivered him. Then 0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.959 man he's had some good fights, but he doesn't really 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:26.920 move the needle in that way, right, and they're they're 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:28.880 kind of trying to move away like that's what Otherwise 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:30.839 Armin Serukin would have had the shot. But like in 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.479 your mind, what's the like it? So out of that three, 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.120 they want to be with Shamaia, right, they want him 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:35.960 to retain no matter what. 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.680 Probably, but I mean do there's there's a problem each 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:43.399 way you look here, it's a problem for the UFC 0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.560 and also an opportunity, but a problem. So as you 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:49.959 unicated Strickland, who is American certainly, you know, I think 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:56.759 among the audience of edge Lord dogs that using the 0:48:56.840 --> 0:49:00.400 last yeah, six or seven years, he certainly is. You know, 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.960 I think they love him. So there's obviously attraction to 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:07.120 the fan base. As you mentioned rivalry with Shamaiev. You know, 0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.279 I think stands a better chance, not not a great chance, 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.719 but a better chance certainly than I Mavov. But you know, 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.840 there's baggage, let's put it that way. Then with the 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.000 Mavov doesn't move the needle at all, would be important 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.799 for the French market, but I don't know exactly how 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.120 important that is in the broader scope of things. And 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.719 then Shamaia Chamaiev has got this electricity around him dot 0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.040 dot dot when he's around, right, I mean, when is 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.279 that gonna be? You know what I mean. So it's 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.360 just a really, really difficult situate. And Strickland is largely 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:35.480 reliable in that way too, in the sense of, you know, 0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:38.719 being ready to go compete. You know, I guess now 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.680 I'll you less of that, But historically anyway, he's been 0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:42.520 pretty good about Like. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.520 I was gonna say that Shamaav would be the guy 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:46.920 to out heal him American bitch. The American part of 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.440 that is hilarious, right, like American bitch. But it's like 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.960 he's not he's not afraid to play the heel. But 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.319 you know, it's funny because Strickland we in a in 0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:57.359 a strict sense of like looking at it, you'd be like, well, 0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.680 he's a pretty good heel himself in terms of like 0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:03.479 just but did you hear them chanting like his name 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.680 in Houston man, I'm in like every time he actually 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.680 gets in there. Remember this happened with Izzieta Sonny too, 0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:08.799 where like all of a suddenly. 0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:11.719 The crowd's rooting for him. It's a confusing situation. 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:11.960 Man. 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:13.960 So if anybody's gonna turn him into a like a 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:17.839 baby face, it might be Shamayah. 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.279 Samaiah would absolutely yeah, especially if you went the you 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.919 know again, not he's not gonna be like the iron chic. 0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.319 But if you went like a right anti immigrant I'm sorry, 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.879 I'm sorry anti yeah American, the scene, man, it could 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:29.799 do a lot of good. All right, before we get 0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:31.799 to topic number three, let's talk about our friends over 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.680 at Draft Kings Sportsbook. 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And I gotta 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:18.920 say I've also the winter here was terrible, but it 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:20.920 was even worse in New York. I'm glad that I 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:22.920 missed the worst of it, but it'll be It'll be 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:24.399 nice to get back, you know what I'm saying. 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.759 Yeah, it's been a minute, But the Acela train, I 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:28.880 think they fixed all the problems. 0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.600 Man, You're gonna be pleasantly surprised when you know, I. 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:37.640 Think I think you'll be surprised. I think there Amtrak 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.080 is doing this bit where they're rolling out all these 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:40.800 new trains. 0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:45.680 Yeah, and I love that, mercilessly go at them on 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:46.279 social media. 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:46.640 I love it. 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.279 Let me just say that I have sources, and this 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:56.560 is I'm not exaggerating. I have sources within the rail industry, 0:52:56.640 --> 0:53:01.799 let's call it. And by chuck, I don't mean pornography, 0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:06.000 all right, the actual yes, Oh fuck off off, My 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.480 joke is good to dad, Get that ready. What I 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:13.680 was gonna say is they tell me my sources that 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:19.000 the new trains break down constantly, perhaps as much or 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.640 even more than the fleet of trains that they were replacing. Now, 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.840 the one big benefit is that your electrical outlet you 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:27.600 don't have to reach across the person next to you 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.359 to plug it in. Each seat has one Okay, that's 0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.439 an upgrade, But the seat itself, the back of the seat, 0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:37.080 it doesn't recline. The bottom of the seat just slides forward, 0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.319 so you'll sit like this, and then the recline is 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.799 just putting your butt forward and now your chin is 0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.440 all Like, I was, like, whose idea was it to 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.600 not recline seats? What the fuck? They reclined seats on 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.880 on Spirit airlines and they don't reply seats. 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.920 That's bad when you're making that comparison, you know. 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.239 Fuck track. How about all right, let's talk about the 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.600 rest of topic number three of that UFC Fight Night 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:04.080 strictly Hernandez main card. We will get to the prelim card. 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.319 I assure you, however, the main card did. To me, 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:11.000 the previm card was dreadful. Beyond words, the main card 0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.120 to me, certainly, the main event delivered, and there were 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.840 some other great highlights along the way. I in general 0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:17.799 did not have much of a problem with the main card. 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:19.759 I think, yeah, Like I said, in general, delivered. So 0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:22.279 let's talk about some of the interesting parts about this. 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.160 So my question to you, Chuck, in this co main event, 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:28.200 I don't know what to say about the career of 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.040 Jeff Neil. He gave a tough fight to Rochmanov, he 0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:33.160 gave a tough fight to Gary. He's given guys a 0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:36.120 lot of tough fights, even in situations where he's lost. 0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.360 And he's been a dynamic puncher certainly through the majority 0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.839 of his career. But now we're talking about back to back, 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:47.800 not just losses, not just stoppage losses, vicious ko losses. 0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:49.759 In fact, I think we've got this one where he 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.920 got the literal snot knocked out of him, just a 0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:57.319 terrible look. You gotta feel bad for the guy. But 0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.120 you know, while a nice win for Meticch, certainly he 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.920 did what Metitch always does. My question is is this 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:04.480 the end of the line for Jeff Neil? What do 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:04.799 you think? 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:08.600 Yeah, man, I think it might be in the sense 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.319 like too, this was a guy who you know, he 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.279 was working as a as a waiter up and I 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:14.640 don't know if he was still doing it. I mean, 0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:16.880 he was doing it for the big portion of his career, 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:18.520 like he just didn't give it up in the Dallas 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.080 area there, and you know, you'd talk to him and 0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:26.120 I felt like he you know, he would admit like 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:28.280 at some point like I'm probably not taking the fighting 0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.279 as seriously as I should have. I'm probably you know, 0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:32.399 partying a little too much. And I know he went 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.319 public with this, So it really came down to, like 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.399 when he starts losing because he'd lost a couple of fights. 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.680 They weren't they weren't vicious knockouts, but like a couple 0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:43.040 of fights he had a nice victory I think against RDA, 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.840 but then that knockout that you're mentioning, and then followed 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.160 by this, you kind of run out of those, you know, 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:50.719 those kind of excuses, I think. 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:54.120 But it's also the shot that floored him. 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:54.319 Man. 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.120 Like sometimes you see a guy get knocked out and 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.040 it's like you, I don't know how to explain it. 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.640 They look so vicious, their brain is just shutting down 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:03.840 at the first, you know, the first feel of that, 0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.560 And I just at some point, man. 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:08.200 You you do want you do worry about a guy 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:08.440 like that. 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.520 I and I think that we've seen kind of I 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.839 don't I don't you tell me too like I there 0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:14.480 was a moment maybe a few years ago where I 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:15.879 was like, well, maybe Jeff new can be a player 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.839 in this division, but I'm not sure what his I'm 0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.359 not sure. I think he's perfectly kind of situated in 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.879 the just below the top ten or like maybe from 0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:28.360 eight to whatever, somewhere in that range, like in that division, 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.600 but like, he never he never struck me as a 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.600 guy who's going to be a title holder, And so 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.480 it was it's just hard, man, because you see a 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.279 guy like that. I remember talking to him a bunch 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.839 of times early on in his career after that Camacho fight, 0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:43.400 especially where he had kicked him, and just thinking like, a. 0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:44.480 What a fun fighter. 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:46.120 But when you see guys getting knocked out like that, 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.120 it's tough, dude, It is tough. That was a bad one, 0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:50.520 and we had a couple of them on this card, 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:51.720 but that one was tough to watch. 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.760 And it was a nice punch from Metich for sure, 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:57.879 but it didn't seem like the kind that would have 0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:58.360 that reaction. 0:56:58.360 --> 0:56:59.840 I mean, I guess yeah, see, he seemed almost a 0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.880 pro like he was like, oh wow, that was it, huh. 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.640 I don't think the power was super crazy, but the 0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:09.640 power was certainly sufficient, obviously. Yeah, it was a lot location. 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.480 It was right in the side of that Yeah, like 0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.400 kind of not quite in the temple, but it's a 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.960 little bit on that sort of softer edge right here. 0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:17.640 He kind of hit him right there, and that was 0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:19.360 enough to close the show. Thirty five, by the way, 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:20.320 will be thirty six in August. 0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:24.000 Right, you remember, you remember when I forget what UFC 0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:25.800 it was, but it was like the one where Franklin 0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:29.160 and Laddell, Ladell's last UFC fight, he breaks his he 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:30.720 breaks his left hand. I think it was right because 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:32.680 he was a south paw and at the end of 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.560 that round he kind of hits him with the right hand, 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.560 and the way Laddell goes out, it's just like his 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:39.600 brain was like, Nope, I'm not dealing with anymore of this. 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:41.520 That's kind of what it reminded me of. And I'm 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:43.720 not saying that he's like been He's definitely not been 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:45.880 to the amount of wars as Laddell, but that's what 0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:47.840 it reminded me of. It's just like the kind of 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.400 punchry you're like, whow, that probably shouldn't have knocked him out, 0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:51.400 you know, it was. 0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:53.440 Like he got remember that scene in the Matrix were 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.920 switching apoc get unplugged. Yes, and they're like not like this, 0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:00.920 Yes exactly they almost It's kind of kind of like 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:05.280 that nice win by eerrosh Metich. Certainly he earned himself 0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.320 a big opportunity, great win. He did what he was 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:09.720 supposed to do. I just wonder about what's next, what's 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.760 left for Jeff Neil we got. 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:14.800 Mentioned by the way, Like, isn't that like all his 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:16.800 victories have been by tk or Ko, like all of 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.800 his I think all eight of his victory It's crazy, man. 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.400 The dude's well, he will live or he will die. 0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:25.440 On that sort, he admits that uh Melki costa dude. 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:29.680 This guy had a tremendous twenty twenty five and becomes 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:31.800 now the first guy to I think, certainly in the 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:35.120 UFC anyway to stop Dan Egay with strikes in his 0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.280 biggest win to date. What exactly his spinning backkick right 0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:40.400 to the sort of jaw slashed face, ma exactly sure 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.120 how far I got up his face, but just tremendous 0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:46.400 and again dealing with pressure really well, chuck your reaction 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:49.400 to this phenomenal run that Melki Costa appears to be. 0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:51.680 On Well we were talking about I don't know his age, 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:54.040 he's how old is he? Like, he's not like, he's 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:55.880 not a super like, he's he's another one of these 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.160 guys who's coming he's young. Yeah, he's young. So it's 0:58:58.160 --> 0:58:59.680 like he's another ones guy's coming up. And this is 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:01.760 one of the instances where the young guy gets by 0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.040 the litmus test of a guy who's kind of a 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:07.240 veteran who's yeah, so he got that's this is what 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:09.000 you kind of want to see, right, Like you get 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.760 a surging prospect or however you want to say, a 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.960 blue chip guy who's coming up and you know he 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:15.640 should maybe be able to make a run at it. 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.160 He gets a guy like Danny Gay and he does 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.320 what he's supposed to do. That that was a beautiful 0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:23.680 that that kick was beautiful, man, And I you know, 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:27.360 it's like it's one of those performances that you what 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.200 is it that you kind of establish yourself right that 0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:31.560 you belong in the conversation. Because Danny Gay has stayed 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.120 up there for a long time. A big portion of 0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:37.440 his career, he was still hovering in that top ten space. 0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.040 So I feel like it's that it's that moment, and 0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:42.240 he shined in it, you know, in the biggest possible way. 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.720 Yeah. I thought he looked absolutely tremendous, throwing a lot 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:47.520 of kicks and then switching it up the way he 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.080 did against a guy like Danny Gay, who again I 0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:51.440 said it was up. I wasn't sure if it was 0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.160 first uh in the UFC or not first ever, first 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.960 person in general, and whether it was crazy Ko or 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.720 submission to stop him. And that guy has fought you 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:03.000 know who who of fighters. Really really incredible work by 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:05.120 Milchi Costa. You gotta love the trajectory he's been on, 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:07.440 and I think now he'll be a ranked fighter going 1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:09.920 forward after this, Chuck, what can you say about Jacobe 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:13.600 Smith gets taken down and then uses what can only 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:17.240 be described as just great timing, yes, but insane athleticism, 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:21.800 and then drills Josiah Harrell into the freaking matt This 1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.720 is what I mean. I want guys who can do exciting, 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:27.960 interesting shit, and Jacoby Smith appears to be very much 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:29.200 one of them. Yeah. 1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:32.840 Man, we were pointing out like all week basically that 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:34.920 Kobe Smith is one of those guys you keep your 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.480 eye on because he's he's got that pedigree, you know, 1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:41.120 the Oklahoma state thing. Trained like obviously like he's one 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:45.360 of DC's guys, but he's just got like some there's 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.120 something about him when you watch him, like, this guy's 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:49.640 really explosive and so far he's been able to do that. 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:51.880 Who's his last fight was that Nico Price? What was 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:53.880 the because he was a huge favorite. 1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:56.040 He was a huge favorite in his last fight, and 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.280 he kind of had to put up with a little 1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:00.000 adversity through that fight. But then he's when he settled in, 1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:01.680 it was like boom, he did the same thing. 1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:03.200 I think he's. 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.880 Definitely one of those guys that we've seen enough tape 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:07.400 on him now where you can kind of you know, 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:10.040 he can handle the expectations a little bit, like which 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.560 is always something you got to watch. He can he 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:14.520 you know, the Vegas odds makers want to like make 1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:17.240 him a big favorite. He can handle that a little bit. 1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:19.520 So I feel like he's kind of not primed for 1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:22.080 whatever his next fight is going to be to h 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:24.400 to really kind of take off, like he's definitely on there. 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:24.600 Man. 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:27.400 That knockout was insane. But what did you think about 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:28.400 the stoppage on this. 1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:33.280 Oh dude, the Stoppers. It was pretty bad, right. I mean, guys, 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:37.320 a welcome to Texas where everything is bigger than Texas. 1:01:37.960 --> 1:01:40.560 True, we used to have this conversation like all the 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:42.160 time when they're in Texas, right, like all the time. 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:43.960 Gohe people don't understand there. There's guys that used to 1:01:44.000 --> 1:01:45.880 be in rotation that are still in rotation on like 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:49.160 regional shows, but UFC has been like just absolutely fucking not. 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:51.640 Steve Malsagatti was one of them. But another guy you 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:53.440 might not know who used to be a main fixture 1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:56.880 in Texas you'll still see him on occasion, John Shorley. 1:01:57.000 --> 1:01:59.160 John Shorley is one of the worst ones I've ever seen, 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:02.360 just absolutely horrendous. Carrie Hatley's not as bad as those guys, 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:05.240 but he's not great. Carrie Hatley does this real half. 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:08.000 I mean, guys, You've got Jacoby Smith in the middle 1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:12.800 of a fist fight, hammer fisting an opponent right there, 1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:15.200 and Carrie Hatley just kind of lightly puts his arm 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:19.080 in to stop, and it's like, yes, should Jacoby Smith 1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:23.000 have stopped? That's true. However, your job is to make 1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:25.760 him stop. And this is why you actually have to 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:27.360 be a little bit physically fit and be able to 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:30.480 move and you know, not just understand the rules and timing, 1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:32.960 but you got to be a little bit physically spry 1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:35.520 to do it because remember in boxing, you got to 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:37.680 be you know, with it as well. But you're everyone's 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:39.720 still standing, so it's a little bit easier to use 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:42.240 your legs to you know, get into places and put 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:44.720 your hands in and whatnot. But on the ground you 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:47.200 have to kind of get in there, right. He does 1:02:47.200 --> 1:02:49.560 a really half ast job of getting in there, so 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:53.200 Smith just kind of keeps going, so then you know, 1:02:53.280 --> 1:02:55.240 Hatley has to push him off. It was reminiscent of 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:58.760 a guy he died, Chuck. It was a UFC fighter 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.520 back in the early I want to say UFC twenty ish. 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:05.960 His name was something like Brian Johnson or Brian Johnston. 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:11.240 Where Big John McCarthy overcorrected on a stoppage. You guys 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:14.160 may not know this. Big John went like diving in 1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:17.320 on a stop I remember this, yeah, and broke Brian 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:20.160 again I can't remember his name, broke his nose and 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.439 was so by the time that guy gets up, there's 1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:25.400 blood spewing everywhere off his face. He was actually bitter 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:27.600 at big John for doing that. Yeah, but I'm like, 1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:31.200 I'll take that over just a guy with brain surgery 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:33.120 getting driven problem too. 1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:36.320 Man, there's the aesthetic. They're showing this whole like package 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:38.520 of like this guy overcame this. They're showing the scar 1:03:38.600 --> 1:03:40.240 on his head, you know, when his head was shaved, 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:42.360 and you're looking at this and you're like, oh, man, 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:45.400 you know there's something about trauma to a brain that's 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:48.680 already had like a problem, right, and then like you 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:51.000 see that he is out. And I would say that 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:54.320 five of those shots at least came after he was 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:56.919 out or it looked like he was definitely out. That's 1:03:56.920 --> 1:03:59.240 a tough aesthetic. But yes, you're right, man, Harley comes 1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:02.400 in there, he just I mean you could see that Smith. Now, 1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:05.560 I saw people actually getting mad at Smith for not 1:04:05.760 --> 1:04:08.120 heating when he felt the referee coming. He still delivered 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:10.640 another shot, but it was so you're right, he came 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:13.680 in there so passively, and you're you're in that moment. 1:04:13.720 --> 1:04:15.720 It's hard to blame the fighter. You know you're supposed 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:16.120 to do that. 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:24.880 Nevertheless, you know, Texas baby Texas. Yeah, I don't know 1:04:24.920 --> 1:04:27.160 what to say about this. So most of the on 1:04:27.400 --> 1:04:30.360 are not most. Let's say, a decent portion of the 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:34.480 online chatter about Sergis Bivoc versus Antie Delia was pretty positive. 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:36.360 Can I just be honest, I didn't. I wasn't super 1:04:36.400 --> 1:04:39.080 opprested of this fight. I didn't really where were you 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:41.360 on this one? No, I was with you the same. 1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:43.360 Maybe maybe it was a little bit because we've been 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:45.160 talking about heavyweights and it was like, oh, here we 1:04:45.200 --> 1:04:47.240 go again, a heavyweight card right in the in the 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:49.480 middle of a of a you know, of a of 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:52.920 a card where it's not at the apex, right, and 1:04:52.960 --> 1:04:55.760 by the standards of what we've watched so far this year, 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:56.800 this was a great fight. 1:04:57.040 --> 1:04:57.240 You know. 1:04:57.280 --> 1:04:59.800 It was like these guys actually were competitive and neither 1:04:59.800 --> 1:05:02.320 one was like gassing out to the point where they 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:05.440 couldn't throw a punch at the end. But it was 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:07.120 just a mediocre fight, you know what I mean. It 1:05:07.160 --> 1:05:09.760 wasn't there was nothing really uh, there was nothing about 1:05:09.760 --> 1:05:12.439 it that really like, you know, there was no moment 1:05:12.480 --> 1:05:13.920 where you're like, oh my god, this guy came back 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:16.360 from that or anything like that. It was it was 1:05:16.440 --> 1:05:18.400 just it was just a typical lightweight fight. But I 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:20.480 think I mean lightweight heavyweight fight. But I think that 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:23.840 somehow maybe we've moved the uh, the expectation line a 1:05:23.840 --> 1:05:25.640 little bit on this because I did see the same 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:28.040 thing I saw people. Maybe it's people who are trying 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:30.920 to overcorrect us for saying that they should just shudder 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:31.520 the damn thing. 1:05:33.400 --> 1:05:33.680 Yeah, I. 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:37.560 Mean seriously, I heard a lot about that. Like everybody's like, oh, 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:40.320 these guys wanted to uh to close down the heavyweight division, 1:05:40.480 --> 1:05:42.400 and so suddenly you get a fight. There's at least 1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:44.280 a little competitive right, Like I feel like people are 1:05:44.320 --> 1:05:45.840 just going over. 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:47.920 You heard people bitter at us for a suggestions. 1:05:47.920 --> 1:05:49.720 I did, Yes, Yes, I heard a couple. 1:05:49.560 --> 1:05:52.400 Of people, but like you don't have to say names, 1:05:52.440 --> 1:05:54.440 but like, I mean, just like you know, I wouldn't 1:05:54.440 --> 1:05:55.960 go so far as the like what you guys were 1:05:55.960 --> 1:05:57.640 talking about, you know, that sort of thing like where 1:05:57.640 --> 1:05:59.920 you shut it up and you just kind of offering. 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.720 So it was all kind of in good conversation. It 1:06:02.760 --> 1:06:05.560 wasn't like they were calling us idiots. But you know, 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:07.240 we took it. I felt like we took it to 1:06:07.360 --> 1:06:09.400 its natural extreme, which is sort of like why did 1:06:09.520 --> 1:06:10.800 was anybody want to watch this? 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:12.480 You know? Why would you want to watch this? 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:15.400 First of all, we didn't actually say the division should 1:06:15.400 --> 1:06:17.320 be eliminated. We're going to say, what's the point of 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:20.600 keeping it around if you're not going to institute fixes 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:23.480 to it? Yes, it's a very different claim. Then I 1:06:23.520 --> 1:06:25.880 don't care if there are fixes. We're done. That's a 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:28.800 completely truth point, you know, to to to go to, 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:30.600 all right. But the other part is Long Island. Luke, 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:32.040 where were you on this fight? Because I think your 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:34.920 pulse is probably going to be closer to maybe what 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:36.680 I saw online. You like this fight? 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:40.520 No, I fucking hated it, But I had reasons that 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:42.880 I hated it, and you know they're betting related. But 1:06:43.000 --> 1:06:45.040 you know, I had the fight to not go the distance, 1:06:45.120 --> 1:06:47.360 and I could just tell, like the minute it started, 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:50.840 I was like, this fight fifteen minutes and the heavyweight 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:52.800 overs are back. All right, guys, you know, no longer 1:06:52.840 --> 1:06:54.480 bet fight does not go to the distance. Always bet 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:55.520 the over on a heavyweight fight. 1:06:55.720 --> 1:06:58.320 Heavyweight this year, this year, man, that was a thing. 1:06:58.200 --> 1:07:00.480 A few years ago, shout out Jed Misheu. He coined 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:03.400 it like heavyweight overs. It was like every heavyweight fight 1:07:03.520 --> 1:07:05.200 was going at least over one and a half, over 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:07.560 two and a half, and then it kind of they're 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:09.640 all get finishes. I feel like heavyweight overs are back. 1:07:09.720 --> 1:07:11.960 So yeah, I just feel like people are starved for 1:07:12.040 --> 1:07:14.360 any kind of decent heavyweight action. And that's what I think. 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:16.040 It was. Not crap. I'm not like looking at this 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:17.720 fight being like, oh it was some kind of disaster. 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:20.000 It was not a disaster or any like that. But like, 1:07:20.160 --> 1:07:21.760 did I think it was a good fight. No, I 1:07:21.760 --> 1:07:22.720 did not think it was a good fight. 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:24.920 And I mean, you know, good for speedback, Like you 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:27.000 get a guy like that, he's been he's kind of 1:07:27.000 --> 1:07:28.800 been a woodwork guy, like in the terms of like 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:30.880 he's not really and he's just been in the heavyweight division. 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:31.720 He's fought a lot of guys. 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:35.360 But you know he's mentioning like his father passing with 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.480 that kind of motivation, and you feel good for a 1:07:37.480 --> 1:07:40.080 guy like that who needed the victory and for morale 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:40.480 and all that. 1:07:41.120 --> 1:07:43.480 But in terms of a fight, it was just a fight. 1:07:44.000 --> 1:07:46.160 Yeah. Well, I'll just say this. I also don't have 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:48.720 much to say about the Michelle Pueda Zachary's fight. 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:50.840 It was perhaps the less set about it, the better. 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:54.040 Yeah, just a fight, all right, let's talk about that. 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:57.080 Preliminary car Jesus Christ, this one was not that great. 1:07:57.120 --> 1:08:01.040 As I mentioned, main event totally delivered a largely delivered anyway, 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:04.439 main card largely delivered some real bright spots. Molchy Costa 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:07.920 looked great, or Metics looked great. Jacoby Smith, you know, 1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:10.880 look great, like a bunch of these guys looked amazing. No, 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:14.440 no no harm, no foul. But that prelim card was 1:08:14.600 --> 1:08:19.160 absolutely atrocious. And here's it. I want to give you 1:08:19.200 --> 1:08:21.040 the floor on this, Chuck, because we kind of discussed 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:24.439 this ahead of time. Now you got to be careful 1:08:24.720 --> 1:08:27.559 because if you see online chatter, particularly on Twitter, that's 1:08:27.640 --> 1:08:29.960 just not real life. There are a lot of people 1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:32.400 who are overly positive about the UFC in a weird way. 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:34.479 There's a lot of people who are overly negative about 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:36.640 the UFC in a way that just doesn't match what 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:39.760 the broader reality speaks to. But if you can say 1:08:39.800 --> 1:08:41.840 anything about the online chatter was that it was pretty 1:08:41.920 --> 1:08:44.360 universally negative, including a lot of fans that I know 1:08:44.360 --> 1:08:46.799 who are very very pro UFC. Even they were likeugh, 1:08:46.840 --> 1:08:49.559 this was not that much. What was your read on 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:54.200 why that preliminary card felt Because on paper, I did 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:56.679 feel like it had potential. I do feel that way 1:08:57.320 --> 1:09:00.840 just just didn't materialize. Why oh man. 1:09:00.920 --> 1:09:03.200 Part of it is, you know, John Anick was on 1:09:03.400 --> 1:09:05.880 like he was on some podcasts a couple of weeks ago, 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:08.040 and he basically said, like, one of the fixes the 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:10.120 UC could do is just reducing the amount of fights 1:09:10.120 --> 1:09:12.200 of car on cards and getting it back to more 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:14.160 in that ten eleven range that we were used to 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:17.519 back in the day. This particular card had fourteen fights. 1:09:17.920 --> 1:09:21.719 There were eight on the prelims, right, and that's a lot. 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:24.320 It feels like a marathon when you start to like 1:09:24.400 --> 1:09:26.680 Long Island just pointed out that heavyweight fight where you 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:28.320 see the first minute you kind of know it's going 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:30.840 the distance. There was way too much of that, man, 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:32.880 There was way too much of like you start a fight, 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:36.599 you can see the process of almost nullification facing off 1:09:36.600 --> 1:09:39.720 with each other, and at that point you start to 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:41.840 be like, this is going the distance. My problem with 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:44.160 it is I kept having this thing where I'm like, 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:45.960 you're watching the fight, you mean to kind of be, 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:48.240 you know, involved, and see what you know, who's doing 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:50.960 what here? And I would just daydream and pretty soon 1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:52.640 I'm like, dude, I don't even know who won tho 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:54.479 last two rounds. I just don't even know. And that's 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:56.320 this is a problem, Like you should like it should 1:09:56.320 --> 1:09:58.920 feel more compelling. That didn't help that Houston looked like 1:09:58.920 --> 1:10:00.519 a very late arriving crowd out there. I don't know 1:10:00.520 --> 1:10:02.760 if you notice that, but like it the building was 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:06.240 dead too. It was just it felt very I don't know, 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:09.280 it felt very like rehearsals or something, and through big 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:12.479 portions of that. But I when you have that many fights, man, 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:16.679 and like the parody of today's fighters and like everything 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:17.759 that's going on, man. 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:20.880 It was just it just doesn't hold attention, you know 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:21.280 what I mean. 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:22.519 Like it was just one of those things you're like, 1:10:22.680 --> 1:10:26.280 there's also this thing, dude, like you see, like if 1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:28.800 you had an annoying friend, like you'd always see him 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:31.120 or whatever, and he starts to tell you whatever, and 1:10:31.200 --> 1:10:33.120 at some point you're like, you know, man, I'm always 1:10:33.160 --> 1:10:35.120 at the bar and I'm always talking to this guy, 1:10:35.120 --> 1:10:37.760 and I'm just sick of it because why do I 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:39.360 want to be Why do I want this in my life? 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:41.280 Like you get that feeling sometimes you're watching like Oday 1:10:41.280 --> 1:10:43.720 Osborne or something, and you're like, I don't why can 1:10:43.800 --> 1:10:44.400 I keep seeing. 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:45.640 You know, I'm not trying to. 1:10:45.600 --> 1:10:47.280 Throw him under the bus specifically, but he's been in 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:49.080 a lot of these fights, and You're like, why do 1:10:49.160 --> 1:10:51.559 I keep having to watch this? You know where you're 1:10:51.560 --> 1:10:55.680 like watching guys that they just aren't like moving, you know, 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:58.320 they're not moving anywhere, but they're just perpetually on a prelim, 1:10:58.439 --> 1:10:58.920 you know what I mean. 1:10:58.920 --> 1:10:59.600 It's just I don't know. 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:01.280 There was a lot going on there, but it wasn't 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:02.519 holding my attention too well. 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:04.920 This is where I come down to. Were there some 1:11:04.920 --> 1:11:07.880 strong performers on this premium card. Sure, we'll talk about 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:10.120 them just a second, but I had It was so 1:11:10.320 --> 1:11:12.479 funny when you said this on the pre show because 1:11:12.600 --> 1:11:14.800 the exact response I have would I'd be watching the 1:11:14.800 --> 1:11:17.560 fights door closed to my office. There's no one in 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:19.559 the room. I'm not being distracted. I mean, my daughter 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:22.599 came in a couple times in different moments, but in general, yeah, 1:11:23.040 --> 1:11:25.640 utterly unimpeded to watch. And then I'd just be kind 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:28.680 of looking at the screen and then before i know it, 1:11:28.680 --> 1:11:31.160 it's like two thirty five in the round and I'm like, dude, 1:11:31.160 --> 1:11:33.240 what the fuck happened in the last minute? Two and 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:36.120 a half minutes. Huh, And I caught myself doing this 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:37.760 over and over again. Now, part of it was the 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:39.920 fights were well matched in a lot of cases. So 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:43.280 for example, like putting Helle Sorano versus rom Is blocking mind, 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:46.439 those are not bad fighters and they give a I 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:48.080 think they gave what they had, but the way it 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:52.000 just kind of worked out couldn't sor Riano didn't have 1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:53.760 to get the win, obviously, but it just couldn't get 1:11:53.920 --> 1:11:57.479 enough going to really be you know, memorable, I think, 1:11:57.560 --> 1:11:59.000 is the way I would put it. It just felt like 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:01.600 a lot of white noise. You know. 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:05.080 I don't know how I mean, it's just things that 1:12:05.120 --> 1:12:07.960 you drift off on like that, or it's just you 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:09.800 got to look at it from UFC standpoint. I think 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:12.120 that that's what they hated about old boxing model, right, 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:14.240 like they just didn't want to have too much. But 1:12:14.360 --> 1:12:16.639 boxing a lot of times will on it's undercards, will 1:12:16.680 --> 1:12:19.479 basically stack it up with mismatches so that you see knockouts, 1:12:19.479 --> 1:12:22.080 you know what I mean? These days, I don't know 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.280 if it's just because if it's matchmaking, or if it's 1:12:24.320 --> 1:12:26.880 just that you've reached a spot where a lot of 1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:30.759 people have similar skill sets, so they kind of offset 1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:33.400 each other. You get this, Seven of the eight fights 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:37.400 go the distance, and none of them were really compelling, 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:38.040 you know what I mean? 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:42.200 All right, there there were a couple of bright spots. 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:44.120 I thought on the premium card, the biggest one to 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:49.280 me would be Joscelyn L. Edwards defeating your Cornole. I'm 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:50.720 not sure I pronounce her name, Please forgive me. 1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:53.880 I think it's Cornoll, Yeah, Cornoll Yeah. 1:12:54.280 --> 1:12:56.680 And you know, and she obviously Matt returns her what 1:12:56.760 --> 1:12:59.280 you can see in the above picture. It injures her 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:02.439 and then she gets the the choke. I will say 1:13:02.479 --> 1:13:04.439 this to you, Chuck. When she first got to the UFC, 1:13:04.479 --> 1:13:06.160 so she's been in the UFC for a little while now. 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:09.679 She got there all the way back in Wow twenty 1:13:09.800 --> 1:13:12.679 twenty one. She fought Janaan Wu and then Carol Hosa 1:13:13.240 --> 1:13:15.040 and then Jessica Rose Clark. She lost two of the 1:13:15.040 --> 1:13:17.240 three of those, and I thought, wow, she looked really terrible. 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:17.720 Yeah. 1:13:17.760 --> 1:13:19.519 I thought they were just trying to sign fighters from 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:21.840 you know, Latin American territories to fill out their roster. 1:13:22.240 --> 1:13:24.920 But dude, she is on a four fight win streak. 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:27.120 She did listen to Eileen Petz back in twenty twenty four. 1:13:27.720 --> 1:13:31.519 Since then, she's beating Tamirez Vidal, Chelsea Chandler, Priscilla Ketchuarra, 1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:33.200 which was a pretty good one. She fished her off, 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:36.040 and then Nora Cornoll as you mentioned all of those 1:13:36.040 --> 1:13:40.160 wins via stoppage. She actually is thirty years old. Now, yeah, dude, 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:41.200 she's she was. 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:42.080 She was impressive. 1:13:42.360 --> 1:13:44.280 I mean, I think she was the only one of 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:46.800 this new like era, of the twenty five thousand dollars 1:13:46.800 --> 1:13:49.519 finish that actually got paid on the premium, so by 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:50.880 default she's going to do that. 1:13:50.880 --> 1:13:54.240 But de man, that slam? How cool was that? 1:13:54.280 --> 1:13:54.479 Man? 1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:56.240 I thought the fight was over off of that. 1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.240 She obviously got the choke a little, you know a 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:02.400 few seconds later, But I agree with you, man, and 1:14:02.479 --> 1:14:04.559 she this was like this was a rematch too, right, 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:06.680 because she was avenging her one of her losses. So 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:09.040 I feel like, yeah, she's definitely one. Was thirty years 1:14:09.080 --> 1:14:12.280 old sometimes and from Panama, I'm not sure. Off the 1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:14.320 top of my head, can you think of who's come 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:17.000 from Panama? Like I can't even think of a single 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:18.320 UFC fighter right this second. 1:14:18.400 --> 1:14:22.719 Well, how about Roberto Duran? Motherfucker? Well, yeah, yeah, Monos 1:14:22.800 --> 1:14:24.840 depa draw. That's right what I'm saying. 1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:26.800 Yeah, well in the UFC, But I mean that's that's 1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:29.040 kind of a boon, Like I like that when you've 1:14:29.080 --> 1:14:32.280 got a new representative and she's flourishing. So she was 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:34.000 one of the lone bright spots for sure on that. 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:37.760 Yeah. And by the way, she lost to Nora back 1:14:37.760 --> 1:14:40.639 in twenty twenty three. Look at the change. Yeah, exchange, 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:42.800 pretty pretty dramatic. You got to be impressed by that. 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:45.000 I also got to give Long Island credit. I didn't 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:47.320 watch Ultimate Fighter, so I wasn't super familiar with her game. 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:50.879 But Carly Judas Judais, however you say her name, Dude, 1:14:50.920 --> 1:14:53.320 she didn't get the finish against Giuliano Miller. But I 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:56.559 didn't hate this fight at all because her striking. She's 1:14:56.600 --> 1:14:59.479 got Long Island come back. She's got a few things 1:14:59.479 --> 1:15:02.639 to and to me, she motions too much rather than 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:04.280 thinking about what she needs to do in a more 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:09.320 slightly reduced way. But dude, her striking looks legit. I 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:10.479 was super impressed by her. 1:15:10.680 --> 1:15:12.760 That was also her first win by decision. All of 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:14.800 her wins had been by knockout before that, and she 1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:17.240 put it on Miller, and she also like looked pretty 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:18.960 bad on the ground in that fight. A few times 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:20.519 I was like, oh shit, Juliana Miller is going to 1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:22.439 finish her. That fight was way better than I thought 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:23.600 it was going to be. I thought it was going 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:25.559 to be a one sided Carle just piecing her up. 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:29.080 Juliana actually made it interesting. But dude, the prelims just 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:31.679 took a die. I rarely say this. I love doing 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:32.240 my watch along. 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:34.120 I was gonna say, you're like a prelim fetishist. 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:37.640 I literally chuck like five fights. I literally said, this 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:40.160 is the worst card, like by far that I like, 1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:42.840 this is so boring. This is the worst card. So yeah, 1:15:42.880 --> 1:15:45.080 it was bad, but if you just watched the main card, 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:50.120 it was actually like besides the Michelle car was actually 1:15:50.640 --> 1:15:51.200 Jordan Levitt. 1:15:51.200 --> 1:15:54.800 By the way, Yady ar del on my timeline. So 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:57.599 he loses, Jordan Levitt wins, he spanks him, which by 1:15:57.600 --> 1:15:59.720 the way, Kutur did to Tito or Tiz at USC 1:15:59.800 --> 1:16:03.120 four four, and then everyone on my timeline was like, 1:16:03.280 --> 1:16:08.599 arrest Isaac and people were tagging the FBI and shit, 1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:12.240 because he looked terrible, not not Levit leve It looks fine. 1:16:12.240 --> 1:16:16.439 But uh, del Vae looked just out of this level. 1:16:16.560 --> 1:16:18.240 And uh, that's. 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:21.200 An incriminate it is though, it's like it's just that 1:16:21.240 --> 1:16:22.479 doesn't make any sense, right. 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:25.760 And then lastly Labos noo Yanni. Uh he got the 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:27.479 winner for Phil Rowe. You know, it was the spirited 1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:29.320 back and forth, but it just one of these fights 1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:33.200 that just didn't capture your attention. Same thing with Alden Korea. 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:37.040 He put in a good effort against Luis Gurule. I'm 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:40.240 not sure what it means, and then I'll be I 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:42.880 don't have to say it. Idris or Idius against Odie 1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:45.200 Osbourne another one of these fights where it's like, what 1:16:45.240 --> 1:16:46.800 happened in that one? I saw it and I can't 1:16:46.800 --> 1:16:50.040 tell you. I know, I know, I know that Ideus 1:16:50.080 --> 1:16:52.120 got the takedown. Other than that, I'm not sure, you know. 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:54.320 And it looked like just generally he was in control 1:16:54.360 --> 1:16:57.120 of that fight. But again, yeah it was I was 1:16:57.280 --> 1:16:58.160 the same way. 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:00.280 In fairness, Carlos Leal tried to put it on Cheti 1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:04.000 Andji Kawani so Leal to me Leal and Edwards with 1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:06.000 the two bright spots sort only that card and Judaice 1:17:06.000 --> 1:17:08.200 looked good, but you know it was you know, you 1:17:08.240 --> 1:17:11.120 couldn't quitet with the hope. All right, that's that part 1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:14.040 of the card. Let's talk about what happened in the 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:16.680 squared circle, so to speak, so over on his own 1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:19.360 in the boxing ring. Well, we weren't sure what we 1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:21.400 were gonna get with Ryan Garcia, but we now we know. 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:24.479 Ryan Garcia returned to what could only be described as 1:17:24.520 --> 1:17:30.240 top form and then easily beat Mario Barrios via unanimous decision. Chuck, 1:17:30.520 --> 1:17:33.679 he dropped him in the first round. He never looked 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:35.559 back from there. Look at some of these highlights here. 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:37.160 This is the first round where he drops him just 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:40.880 right there. This was less than thirty seconds into round 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:42.960 number one. Look at the time on the ring, two 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:46.639 thirty four, he's already down and up and it didn't 1:17:46.640 --> 1:17:49.080 get much better for Barrios from there, to be honest 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:53.200 with you, So with this win, Ryan Garcia finally becomes 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:57.120 a world champion. What would you say this did for 1:17:57.320 --> 1:17:58.880 Ryan Garcia's stock? 1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:01.479 Well, dude, we were like talking about is this do 1:18:01.640 --> 1:18:02.280 or die for him? 1:18:02.320 --> 1:18:02.439 Right? 1:18:02.479 --> 1:18:02.559 Like? 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:04.519 So these are the stakes when you really think about 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:08.000 it like that, You're like, you know, a loss here, 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:10.479 and I think that he loses kind of the thread 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:12.760 or with this vitality thing that we have with this 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:16.679 guy of being that when you know, because he's compelled. Honestly, 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:20.160 he's compelled the boxing audience to pay attention from the beginning, 1:18:20.720 --> 1:18:22.639 just going back to the amateurs, like just what he's 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:25.360 been able to do if he loses this fight, it 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:27.400 was that big, Like maybe he starts to slip off 1:18:27.400 --> 1:18:29.240 and I don't know if you come back. If you do, 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:30.960 it's going to be a long time. But he's still 1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:33.519 a young guy. But you win this fight. And not 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:35.639 just that, but like everybody's like, okay, wait a minute, 1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:36.959 he's realized his potential. 1:18:37.040 --> 1:18:37.400 Where'd that? 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:37.640 Like? 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:40.120 Personally, I was like where was that right hand? When 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:41.599 during the role Romero fight. 1:18:41.479 --> 1:18:43.680 That I was sitting ringside, I was like, all of 1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:45.920 a sudden, he shows up with a with a you know, 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:48.920 with the right hand to go home with a speed 1:18:49.360 --> 1:18:51.880 the speed factor looked like he was like double like 1:18:52.320 --> 1:18:55.080 you know, and fast forward against Brios. It looked like 1:18:55.120 --> 1:18:58.680 he just had every advantage possible and to kind of 1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:00.800 showcase other than putt him ay at some point in 1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:03.519 the fight, probably the best you can look, right, And 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:08.160 if anything that this did, it showed people again, reminded 1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:11.720 people again the magnitude of what Ryan Garcia like at 1:19:11.720 --> 1:19:13.880 that level, because even when the Devin Hainey fight happened, 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:15.479 right like, when that happened, it was like, oh my god, 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:19.760 this guy. Obviously it took on a dark cloud in 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:23.080 the aftermath and before, but the performance itself. Coming out 1:19:23.080 --> 1:19:25.360 of fight night, we were like, oh my god, this dude. 1:19:25.360 --> 1:19:27.320 And it was like he's such a he is such 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:30.280 a star in that sense, people really compelled to pay 1:19:30.320 --> 1:19:32.840 attention to him. We were right back there, man, And 1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:34.439 now all of a sudden, you're set in the stage 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:38.040 for like really big fights. That's a crazy like this 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:40.600 was a crazy swing of fate. If he loses, he 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:43.160 slips off. If he wins, he's got these huge fights 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:45.040 coming up. Big time performance. 1:19:45.080 --> 1:19:48.760 Man. The scores were one eighteen one oh nine, one 1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:52.479 nineteen one eight, and then one twenty one oh seven, 1:19:53.200 --> 1:19:55.360 all for Ryan Garcia. I mean he won all of 1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:58.160 them on one judge of scorecard, all but one on one. 1:19:58.280 --> 1:19:59.760 Yeah, how did you have it? Did you have him 1:19:59.760 --> 1:20:00.519 winning all of them? 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:02.600 I had him winning every single same same not have 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:04.960 a single round from Mario Marios, And I thought it was. Frankly, 1:20:04.960 --> 1:20:07.960 it's ridiculous that some people did. Although I guess, you 1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:09.960 know whatever, it didn't really matter in the end, but 1:20:10.000 --> 1:20:11.680 that was dude. I'm so glad you brought this up 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:13.960 because we were like, well, what's Mario's gonna do with 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:15.519 a guy's got a good left hook. We'll see if 1:20:15.520 --> 1:20:17.920 he can solve that problem. Turned out that was not 1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:21.640 his problem. Turned out that was one problem that he 1:20:21.720 --> 1:20:24.519 had among many problems. And as you rightly indicated, Chuck, 1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:27.360 that right hand showed the stoppach. Sorry, stop it, I'm sorry. 1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:29.200 The dropping one more time, if you can look, is 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:31.400 right hand to the body, right hand over the top. 1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:36.880 It was the right hand all night, round three, rounds, ten, 1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:40.559 over and over again. You get these punctuated moments where 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:44.120 Barrios just couldn't get anything going, and it was because 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:48.280 Ryan finally had diversified offense. The left hook is famous 1:20:48.280 --> 1:20:50.040 we saw in the Devin Haney fight, but there was 1:20:50.080 --> 1:20:52.000 not much of a right hand to speak of in 1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:55.920 that contest. It was everywhere and virtually every round. Again, 1:20:56.040 --> 1:20:58.960 some moments more punctuated than other ones. And this is 1:20:59.000 --> 1:21:00.960 a testament to I think, you know, it's kind of 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:04.120 funny Chuck, but it was a bit of a side story. 1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:08.320 He had left Joe Goosen and then Mario Barrios had 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:11.280 gone to Joe Goosen, and so Joe Goosen a little 1:21:11.320 --> 1:21:13.400 bit here on the line, and I don't know what 1:21:13.479 --> 1:21:15.599 Goosen and Barrios were working on. I actually like Joe. 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:18.439 I met him a few times. He's a real nice 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:23.000 I think, pretty bright guy. But I'm not saying he 1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:26.280 didn't do the right things for Mario Barrios. I'm saying 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:29.639 even if he did Chuck, it didn't land, it didn't take. 1:21:29.760 --> 1:21:33.000 Nothing took. They he survived in there. I mean, he 1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:35.800 wasn't getting dropped every round in that sense, but like 1:21:36.280 --> 1:21:40.720 Brios's offense, maybe got out of first gear a handful 1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:44.200 of times. And even that is staying it, saying it 1:21:45.360 --> 1:21:46.200 a little too nicely. 1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:46.960 This is my point. 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:50.280 I want to say, did Ryan Garcia look really good, Chuck? 1:21:50.280 --> 1:21:53.599 Did he add new weapons? There's simply no denying. On 1:21:53.640 --> 1:21:55.759 the other hand, I do think part of the story 1:21:55.880 --> 1:21:59.160 is we talked about it. Ryan came in off getting 1:21:59.200 --> 1:22:02.040 dropped and loose to Roly Romero and got gifted a 1:22:02.080 --> 1:22:04.760 title shot he shouldn't have got it, and then on 1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:07.519 top of it, Barrios entered this contest off back to 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:12.599 back draws, like no, man, The reality is like Garcia 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:15.080 looked great and he's a world champion, but that has 1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:17.160 to be one of the easiest paths to a world 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:19.280 title I've ever seen in my life. 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:22.880 Yeah, I mean that that's factor. It's always it's always 1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:24.479 like this. But you know, the truth of the matter 1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.720 is we just didn't know. Like even the line reflected this. 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:30.320 Garcia probably should he was like a minus two fifty. 1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:32.000 I'm sure a long on has the exact but he 1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:35.960 was something like that. He was it was if it 1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:38.519 was if everybody kind of knew this going in, it 1:22:38.520 --> 1:22:40.479 should have been like minus one thousand, right, that's the 1:22:40.600 --> 1:22:43.800 kind of fight it was. It just shows that when 1:22:43.920 --> 1:22:45.800 when a guy has dialed in, so it depends on 1:22:45.840 --> 1:22:47.559 which lens you want to look through it. But I'm like, 1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:50.240 I thought that Garcia had something to go in there 1:22:50.240 --> 1:22:52.519 and prove. I thought he proved that. But there was 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:55.120 also this element of we saw that you saw the 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:57.679 Mario Barrios when he's fighting a you know, Pakia forty 1:22:57.680 --> 1:22:59.479 seven year old Pacio and he's just not looking very 1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:01.920 good in that far either he didn't look great in 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:05.080 a couple of his previous fights. So like when you 1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:06.400 look at all of that and you start to put 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:08.880 together like, Okay, well Garcia was leaps and bounds about 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:10.760 this guy. But there's sometimes where you just have to 1:23:10.800 --> 1:23:13.640 see it to fully understand that. I felt like that 1:23:13.760 --> 1:23:16.479 was this moment, so both guys. So Garcia's stock rises, 1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:19.240 but I also think that uh you know that that 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:22.040 uh bars like his his stock plummets a little bit 1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:24.880 because now it looks and I want to say smoking mirrors, 1:23:24.880 --> 1:23:27.160 like dudes put themselves in those positions, but it definitely 1:23:27.200 --> 1:23:30.799 looks like he's maybe shouldn't be a should maybe shouldn't 1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:31.040 have been. 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:31.960 A champion, you know what I mean? 1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:34.480 Yeah, no, not maybe definitely. 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:36.679 Do you think he's is he among? 1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:38.439 Like I know that people this was the like they 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:40.200 always get this sort of thing where it's like that 1:23:40.280 --> 1:23:43.719 dude's the worst champion in history, you know that sort 1:23:43.720 --> 1:23:46.599 of thing, like how far do you go on this line. 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:53.160 For Mario one of the least championship contender guys during 1:23:53.240 --> 1:23:57.920 my professional career? Yeah yeah, yeah, like I can't speak 1:23:57.960 --> 1:24:00.920 all time or anything like that, And there's definitely we 1:24:00.920 --> 1:24:03.200 should be clear, there's definitely been guys who are like 1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:06.880 interim or super or not even super in like a 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:10.240 regular kind of way, like some sanctioning body bullshit ass title. 1:24:10.240 --> 1:24:12.519 But I'm talking like full weight class champ. Yeah, I 1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:15.920 just don't know if I can recall one this easy. 1:24:16.000 --> 1:24:18.760 Yeah, I mean, you know not Yeah, definitely not an 1:24:18.800 --> 1:24:20.519 hour well, that's what I'm saying. 1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:21.400 I guess an hour era. 1:24:21.479 --> 1:24:23.519 I mean, if you go back, there's always those dudes 1:24:23.520 --> 1:24:26.160 who are like the Tony Tuckers who held belts for 1:24:26.320 --> 1:24:28.040 you know what I mean, like in times where you're like, whoa, 1:24:28.120 --> 1:24:29.519 how the hell did that guy end up with a 1:24:29.560 --> 1:24:33.200 belt during that time period and stuff like that. But yeah, 1:24:33.360 --> 1:24:35.639 but I mean it all works out. I just it's 1:24:35.680 --> 1:24:37.960 fun when it happens, because I think he was considered 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:40.280 Ryan Garcia was considered one of the four horsemen of 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:42.439 the of that you know, time and all that, and 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:44.720 all of a sudden he's there finally, right like, I 1:24:44.760 --> 1:24:47.200 feel like he's inserted himself into that space. 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:51.400 Brios look terrible. I just want to point out more fun. Now, 1:24:51.479 --> 1:24:53.559 let's talk about the road ahead. If we can here 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:56.439 for just a second, chuck, So here are the list 1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:58.559 of current welter weight champions. And for folks, you mean, 1:24:58.600 --> 1:25:00.960 I know walter weight in boxing one forty seven. As 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:03.679 you can see up there, you got Ryan Garcia, Roly Romero, 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:06.759 Roley just beat Ryan, and then you've got Lewis Crocker, 1:25:06.800 --> 1:25:10.599 and then you've got Devin Haney. So keep that in mind. 1:25:10.800 --> 1:25:16.559 Now what I want to show is, uh, Ryan, you 1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:18.599 know what, Let's go through this a little bit. Ryan 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:23.200 and Devin. Excuse me, Ryan says Devon. No wait, wait, 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:28.479 what the fuck? Sorry? Shaker and Haney suggest Ryan's on 1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:31.080 PD at this. So, by the way, I looked at 1:25:31.080 --> 1:25:34.439 the replies and Devin Haney's tweets in that particular tweet, 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:39.519 Excuse me, dude, I mean unkind to Devon would be 1:25:40.600 --> 1:25:41.720 let me go back because I want to read it 1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:44.800 to the to the to the audio audience. But let 1:25:44.800 --> 1:25:47.639 me just say the reply. So Devin Haney tweets Ryan 1:25:47.760 --> 1:25:50.040 off that good juice, which, by the way, he's you know, 1:25:50.640 --> 1:25:52.640 I don't know what happened, is the truth, Chuck, But like, 1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:54.920 would I be the least bit surprised if Garcia was 1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:58.800 using again, Hello, the guy is a proven cheater? Uh? 1:25:58.840 --> 1:26:01.680 And then Shaker Stevenson retweets that and then writes our 1:26:01.760 --> 1:26:04.639 quote tweets it anyway, I said that in round one, 1:26:05.479 --> 1:26:07.080 but I just want to point this out. So there's that. 1:26:07.280 --> 1:26:11.080 Then there's the connor Ben tweet. Connor Ben puts this 1:26:11.160 --> 1:26:14.800 out and says, congratulations, Champ, see you later this year. 1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:18.599 Make sure you keep my belt warm. And of course 1:26:18.760 --> 1:26:20.920 a big signing that happened on Friday. We didn't really 1:26:20.960 --> 1:26:22.719 discuss it today because you know, we're sort of focusing 1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:26.800 on MMA more, Chuck, is that you had connor Ben 1:26:27.000 --> 1:26:29.720 going over to zoofa boxing right on a one fight, 1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:34.960 reported one fight fifteen million dollar deal, which no UFC 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:37.360 fighter has ever gotten for a UFC fight. I mean, 1:26:37.400 --> 1:26:41.000 connor got something like that for boxing for a one off, 1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:43.880 but like within the UFC itself, that's absolutely never happened, 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:44.559 not even close. 1:26:45.240 --> 1:26:45.800 And it was this. 1:26:46.000 --> 1:26:48.720 It's connor Ben is not good, Chuck. He's not very good, 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:52.800 but the symbolism of it is obviously significant, right could 1:26:52.800 --> 1:26:55.040 you're taking away one of Eddie's top guys. Yeah, but 1:26:55.120 --> 1:26:57.320 he's not very good. Here's the point I'm trying to make. 1:26:58.160 --> 1:27:00.240 You've got connor Ben who wants a piece of him. 1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:03.000 You got Devin Haney who's out there saying things about him. 1:27:03.160 --> 1:27:06.760 Shagher Stevenson. How do you know this was redemptive for 1:27:06.920 --> 1:27:09.559 Ryan Garcia's career, Chuck, because they all. 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:12.080 Right want a piece and the end that's how you 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:13.920 know how big of a star he really is too. 1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:15.639 Like we've seen this in the UFC a million times. 1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:18.920 When a guy has that juice right like and all 1:27:18.960 --> 1:27:21.080 of a sudden everybody wants a piece of him. That 1:27:21.120 --> 1:27:23.760 means he does business. I mean, that's the great thing 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:26.599 about a Ryan Garcia. And we've seen it a couple 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:28.519 of times where he's kind of swelled up into this, 1:27:30.120 --> 1:27:32.960 you know, into this moment where like he becomes this guy. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:36.880 Now there should be concerns, dude, when he came into 1:27:36.960 --> 1:27:38.960 this fight. You're looking at him like during fight week 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:41.080 and you see what tremendous shape he's in, man, and 1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:44.400 you know that's kind of secondary to his mindset because 1:27:44.439 --> 1:27:46.479 everybody was like, well is he how's he doing? Like 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:48.800 and it you know, we were talking about his hyper 1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:52.920 religious kind of like swing where he's doing this, but 1:27:52.960 --> 1:27:55.880 he seemed more grounded and rooted, so you're focusing more 1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:58.680 on his mental space. But there was something like you're 1:27:58.720 --> 1:28:00.720 looking at his physique, you know, like, Okay, this dude 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:04.360 looks really good heading into this fight. There's gonna be no. 1:28:04.560 --> 1:28:06.720 This is the crossy bear, man Like. It's like when 1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:08.880 you when you get popped and you've busted, You've been 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:11.479 busted for it. That's gonna stay on you forever. That's 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:14.880 a stain on your career. It's just I would be 1:28:15.560 --> 1:28:18.120 I'd be disappointed. People didn't say it. But your hope 1:28:18.240 --> 1:28:21.040 is honestly that there is no kind of aster restaurant us. 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:22.720 There's not any kind of thing that comes out of 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:25.880 this because from a from a boxing perspective, if it's 1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:27.920 a guy who like and I know you like it too, 1:28:28.000 --> 1:28:30.280 man like when you watch boxing boxing asbestos, when you 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:32.680 have stars like this and you're like, you just ran 1:28:32.760 --> 1:28:35.080 down these these potential fights. I want to see them, man, 1:28:35.120 --> 1:28:36.160 I don't want to have I don't want to have 1:28:36.160 --> 1:28:38.719 a guy who's like, oh yeah, he got in trouble again, 1:28:38.880 --> 1:28:40.240 and you know then all of a sudden he has 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:42.840 a checkered career. I'd rather see the big fights, you know. 1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:46.439 Yeah. Here's Ryan's response to Devin. Let's take a look 1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:46.600 at this. 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:47.760 When my Handhels. 1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:50.200 I'll be looking for that opportunity for sure. 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:51.439 And Devin he don't want that. 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:53.400 He's terrified he has PTSD. 1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:58.599 I just want to beat Devin Hayne's ass, bad, dude. 1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:01.120 I don't know what Ryan Garcilla loves more, Chuck, the 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:03.240 limelight or the N word, but he loves them though, 1:29:03.439 --> 1:29:04.120 you know what I'm saying. 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:06.040 I think it's the latter. 1:29:06.080 --> 1:29:09.800 But like when you like when you uh, when when 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:12.640 you look at like Devin Haney's performance, the one at 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:16.040 Times Square against uh was it? Who did he fight there? Ramirez? 1:29:16.160 --> 1:29:18.360 Was that the I'm trying to remember, like he but 1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:20.360 his fight was it did seem like he had that. 1:29:20.800 --> 1:29:22.960 It almost felt like you you're watching these two guys 1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:24.920 in the same room, You're like, why aren't they facing 1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:27.040 especially on a venue like that where you're like, dude, 1:29:27.240 --> 1:29:28.479 they should be having their rematch. 1:29:28.560 --> 1:29:29.080 This is crazy. 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:31.639 So it was like this Blue Balls special almost watching 1:29:31.680 --> 1:29:35.000 both guys walk out for different fights. But he did 1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:37.880 seem like that. It seemed like, you know, it seemed 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:40.760 like he was he was afraid to throw man like. 1:29:40.880 --> 1:29:43.360 It was very strange. So there might be actually something 1:29:43.439 --> 1:29:46.840 to that, But dude, that's one of the big fights. 1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:48.920 If they could make that fight now, I think that's 1:29:48.920 --> 1:29:51.040 a huge fight. Obviously the she could fight is ridiculous, 1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:53.040 but like that fight, the Riy bou Garcia, I think 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:54.760 all of them are big. Even the connor Ben one 1:29:54.840 --> 1:29:56.920 is kind of big. To be honest, we would be 1:29:56.960 --> 1:29:59.200 it'd be super big now too. With the with this 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:01.880 whole ZUFA like all of a sudden, this everything going 1:30:01.920 --> 1:30:03.120 on with that man, that would so. 1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:06.479 To that, to that, to the connor Ben signing by 1:30:06.560 --> 1:30:07.200 ZUFA boxing. 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:11.519 My immediate reaction was, this is going to sit well 1:30:11.600 --> 1:30:13.760 with all of the other zoof like the like all 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:16.360 of the UFC and everybody else within that realm, right 1:30:16.400 --> 1:30:19.320 because we didn't I mean, fifteen million came out like 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:22.200 they just said eight figures right at first, but fifteen 1:30:22.280 --> 1:30:25.439 million is just the is such a seismic golf and 1:30:25.600 --> 1:30:28.760 like when you're also talking about a seven point seven 1:30:28.840 --> 1:30:31.800 billion dollar paramount plus it just seems like there's a 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:34.679 lot of money, you know, be out there being spent, 1:30:34.760 --> 1:30:37.519 but not on the UFC fighters. And so that was 1:30:37.600 --> 1:30:40.200 my first thing is just to go to the defense 1:30:40.320 --> 1:30:41.960 or like to whatever you want to call it, of 1:30:42.000 --> 1:30:45.280 the UFC's perspective of it. But it also kind of 1:30:45.320 --> 1:30:47.240 I mean, there's a lot of contradictions in play, like 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:49.599 from what the way the Dana has handled his own business, 1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:52.680 and you wonder, like obviously with Turkey, like what in 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:57.360 terms of like how this influenced it. And you know, 1:30:58.320 --> 1:31:01.320 if this is just a strategic play, right, if it's 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:03.559 a strategic play to do somewhere to flex, or if 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:07.160 this is an if it's a strictly an Eddie Hearn 1:31:07.360 --> 1:31:09.760 like fuck you type thing. I mean, I think it's 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:12.880 a little bit all of that, but man, it is unprecedented. 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:16.040 I just the UFC, like the ZUFA owned UFC never 1:31:16.120 --> 1:31:19.559 operated this way and honestly, Dana White has never operated 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:22.960 that way. So it's it's telling, right, Like it's telling 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:25.920 in the sense like that they're trying to do something. 1:31:26.040 --> 1:31:27.639 Maybe they're trying to fly in a flight a little 1:31:27.640 --> 1:31:28.639 bit with the boxing realm. 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:32.200 I don't. My view is that these persons are not 1:31:32.320 --> 1:31:35.080 going to last. Now, they may last a little while longer, 1:31:35.560 --> 1:31:37.320 but they've got a shelf life. I think the basic 1:31:37.439 --> 1:31:40.599 idea is, again connor Bend's not very good. He can't 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:43.560 be like he definitely can't beat Devin hamy Or and 1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:46.519 he's sure as hell can't beat shakhor Ryan Garcia. I 1:31:46.560 --> 1:31:48.760 guess we'll have to see. I don't know what that's 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:50.640 gonna happen, but look like, but what I'm trying to 1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:53.200 make is, you know, you're not signing Connor Ben because 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:54.640 he's the best guy in the world. You're signing him 1:31:54.640 --> 1:31:57.120 because it's a symbolic blow to Eddie in a pretty 1:31:57.160 --> 1:31:59.880 substantial way. And it also communicates like we can get 1:32:00.040 --> 1:32:02.240 whoever we want, whenever we want, kind of an attitude, 1:32:02.280 --> 1:32:04.600 you know. But the people thinking like, oh, they're going 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:06.559 to just spend a bunch of money on boxing long term, 1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:09.400 No the fuck, they're not. Everything they're gonna do, like 1:32:09.479 --> 1:32:12.320 the UFC is the model. There's no other place for 1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:14.479 the UFC to conquer than what they've already got. I mean, 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:16.880 you know, some shows can be bigger than others. They're 1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:19.599 going to have bigger, big one off events, sphere, white house, 1:32:19.680 --> 1:32:21.920 you name it. But and I'm not saying this to 1:32:22.000 --> 1:32:23.519 our equivalent, but you get the idea like they'll have 1:32:23.600 --> 1:32:28.320 big events time to time. But that model is everything 1:32:28.400 --> 1:32:30.760 that ZUFA Boxing wants to copy. That's why they want 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:32.599 to change federal legislation. They want to get as close 1:32:32.600 --> 1:32:34.880 to that as possible. They're going to have these big signings, 1:32:34.960 --> 1:32:37.400 you're going to see them, but the goal is going 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:39.639 to eventually be if you want to fight these guys, 1:32:39.760 --> 1:32:41.519 you got to come to us to do it. And 1:32:41.600 --> 1:32:42.800 then what you're going to see is the same thing 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:44.799 that they do. You're going to see like a Contender 1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:47.040 series for boxing. You're going to see where they're gonna 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:49.880 start funneling guys in through that. Contracts are going to get, 1:32:50.000 --> 1:32:52.840 you know, more tightly controlled in terms of how pay goes. 1:32:53.439 --> 1:32:54.960 You know, they're going to other those guys with the 1:32:55.000 --> 1:32:58.400 expensive deals are going to eventually age out, and so 1:32:58.520 --> 1:33:00.479 they will eventually be this process where yeh, some guys 1:33:00.520 --> 1:33:02.080 at the top will mix some good money of course, 1:33:02.600 --> 1:33:05.120 but this idea, I go one fight fifteen million. This 1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:07.680 is a temporary thing, which is why I kind of 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:09.679 understand Connor taking it, to be honest with you, because 1:33:09.680 --> 1:33:12.200 it's like, sure, you're not gonna get a check like 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:13.439 that again, you know what I mean. 1:33:14.439 --> 1:33:14.840 It's hard. 1:33:14.920 --> 1:33:16.800 I mean people were coming after him so hard for 1:33:16.920 --> 1:33:19.080 like Eddie here and standing, you know, standing by him 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:21.240 through the hard parts of his career and kind of 1:33:21.280 --> 1:33:22.680 resurrected hern ate. 1:33:23.600 --> 1:33:26.280 I know, I remember in the middle of Connor benmy like, 1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:28.760 I ate too many fucking eggs and that was how 1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:33.400 I popped positive. And Eddie Hearn's mentions dude, for weeks, 1:33:33.560 --> 1:33:36.680 oh my god, for weeks were just filled with you 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:40.240 fucking low life, cheating, piece of shit, scum fuck you know. 1:33:41.040 --> 1:33:43.360 Yeah, you nailed it. I think it was you who 1:33:43.400 --> 1:33:44.639 put you put out like a tweet. 1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:47.080 You said, this is what it looks like when Dana 1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:50.800 finally gets involved in competenting, like competing, you said something 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:51.519 along these lines. 1:33:51.640 --> 1:33:54.720 Yeah, I said, this is what whiplash watching it. Yeah, yes, 1:33:55.040 --> 1:33:57.439 it's like that. And it's so true. It's so true. 1:33:57.479 --> 1:34:01.640 And don't underestimate when Dana feels like he needs to 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:04.000 make a statement, that's when he'll do something. You know, 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:05.800 like a lot of times I feel like he was 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:08.519 just kind of taking it. You know, even just before this, 1:34:08.640 --> 1:34:10.479 you know, you got Oscar to Lahoya going and doing 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:13.280 one of his clapbacks or whatever his thing is where 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:15.320 he's like going at Dana, and I felt like it 1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:18.120 was just it was just kind of like the you know, 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:19.360 this was like his kind of. 1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:21.000 Answered everybody right in the moment. 1:34:21.120 --> 1:34:23.200 So we'll see I agree with you one hundred percent 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:25.200 though this is that's not sustainable, that's not how they 1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:28.760 do business. So we'll see how it plays out and 1:34:28.880 --> 1:34:30.280 kind of like what they mean this for. 1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:34.160 But there you have it. Those are our top five topics. 1:34:34.200 --> 1:34:36.439 All right, let's switch gears here if we can. Me 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:38.240 and Chuck up been going back and forth, but now 1:34:38.280 --> 1:34:39.880 it's a chance for you guys to ask us questions. 1:34:39.920 --> 1:34:41.599 The way this works is we put up a thread 1:34:42.280 --> 1:34:45.800 every Sunday on ig on Instagram. You can go Morning 1:34:45.880 --> 1:34:50.040 Combat on Instagram, and then we the producers, I should say, 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:52.000 we don't do it, but the producers pick five of 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:54.320 the best or the most interesting, and then we answer them. 1:34:54.360 --> 1:35:02.080 It's time for dms from dogs. That's how I whisper 1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:04.320 in my wife's ear. You know what I'm saying. All right, 1:35:05.960 --> 1:35:07.800 let's go to talk question number one here, all right, 1:35:07.880 --> 1:35:11.320 from Ryan Triple six Banil. It seems like a very 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:13.880 normal human being. All right, When are we gonna get 1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:15.960 a fighter who realizes the way to be a heel 1:35:16.000 --> 1:35:18.680 in the UFC these days and get cheap heat is 1:35:18.760 --> 1:35:25.080 by being an exaggerated woke lib or radical Marxist stereotype, 1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:30.639 a reverse so true, so true, truck. Do you remember 1:35:30.720 --> 1:35:32.439 this guy? And the reason I know this guy is 1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:34.040 because you know, I didn't pay I don't pay attention 1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:35.599 for pro wrestling. I don't hate it anymore, but I don't. 1:35:35.600 --> 1:35:37.880 I don't pay attention, you know. But my producer is 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:39.320 when I was on Serious XAM, they were in my 1:35:39.400 --> 1:35:40.800 ear like, you got to see this guy. You gotta 1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:42.200 see this guy. We got to get him on the show. 1:35:42.600 --> 1:35:47.240 He was an indie pro wrestler who was like super 1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:50.280 pro lib to the point where he would get on 1:35:50.320 --> 1:35:54.240 the mic and be like, you maga losers, you're just jealous. 1:35:54.360 --> 1:36:00.160 You're not as smart and successful as Hillary Clinton. And 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:02.400 they'd be somewhat Alabama and I'd be like, boo, this 1:36:02.520 --> 1:36:04.920 fucking guy, Oh my god. And I asked him if 1:36:04.920 --> 1:36:06.720 he'd ever, like, experienced violence. He told me he'd been 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:09.519 threatened a gazillion times. But you know, it worked. I 1:36:09.520 --> 1:36:10.760 don't know what happened to him, don't if he ever 1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:13.559 went anywhere, but I do agree. I think it would work. 1:36:14.560 --> 1:36:16.640 I know, dude, I had not really thought about this, 1:36:16.760 --> 1:36:19.640 but there's been a couple of times, and I'm not like, 1:36:20.000 --> 1:36:22.560 I'm not some extreme left you know, like the like 1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:24.679 you know what I mean, But like sometimes people accuse 1:36:24.720 --> 1:36:27.040 you being Cuckmanden Hall or whatever because of your like 1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:30.559 some take of what's going on. And if you return 1:36:30.640 --> 1:36:34.000 fire like you lib trd like to them, like and 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:36.040 then that confuses the hell out of them, right, like 1:36:36.040 --> 1:36:38.519 when you use their own language against It's like so, 1:36:38.960 --> 1:36:40.760 but I mean if you just if you think about that, 1:36:42.120 --> 1:36:44.920 that's I mean, especially with the UFC going and doing 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:47.000 a white House card. I mean, dude, that is the 1:36:47.160 --> 1:36:50.280 perfect heal. Like, that's an I had not really thought 1:36:50.320 --> 1:36:52.639 about that directly, but that is that is a great 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:53.160 shout man. 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.439 Do you imagine that you imagine going here and being like, 1:36:55.600 --> 1:37:00.840 I think AOC should be our next resident. Woo oh 1:37:00.920 --> 1:37:02.640 my god, it would be a lot of fun. All right. 1:37:02.720 --> 1:37:06.080 Second question, uh, what do we got here? Okay from 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:09.160 MJ Silverfang, good guy, here he goes. He says, did 1:37:09.240 --> 1:37:12.880 Jileton al Mada fumble the bag by not signing with MVP? 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:17.320 Good question to fight JDS on the Rousey Carano undercard 1:37:17.640 --> 1:37:19.720 or did he just not want to get starts by 1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:21.760 fellow Brazilian in front of millions of people. So if 1:37:21.800 --> 1:37:24.360 you didn't see this, it was reported Jonson I made 1:37:24.360 --> 1:37:26.800 a sign with ACA, which is sort of like a 1:37:27.360 --> 1:37:30.960 Caderov semi aligned promotion, but they do. The interesting part 1:37:31.000 --> 1:37:33.960 is they actually do like it. It is legitimate mma 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:36.360 there like very in certain cases, really legitimate. It's actually 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:39.640 it's a weird kind of contrast. It's got a weird association, 1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:40.960 but at the same time it does a lot of 1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:42.800 good work. Okay, put in that to the side for 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:46.160 just a moment. He signed with them, and it was 1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:50.759 reported that MVP wanted al Mada to fight Junior do Santo. 1:37:50.840 --> 1:37:53.080 So I've seen out there kind of putting out training 1:37:53.200 --> 1:37:55.960 videos and always been looking for a fight, and he's 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:58.519 trying to get a Jake Paul fight, for example, And 1:37:59.000 --> 1:38:01.120 they say he passed it. What do you think, Chuck, 1:38:01.240 --> 1:38:02.920 was it? Did it make sense to pass on it? 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:03.960 If so, why. 1:38:06.600 --> 1:38:07.640 I would feel like I did. 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:09.120 This is all news to me, by the way, But 1:38:09.320 --> 1:38:12.760 like in al Maya's case, I feel like, especially in 1:38:12.880 --> 1:38:15.120 jilting the UFC, who just got rid of you when 1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:17.240 you're eight and three in their promotion, like it would 1:38:17.240 --> 1:38:20.160 have been to go to MVP because that's where that's happening, right, 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:23.599 And that's also going to be just a huge business 1:38:23.720 --> 1:38:26.000 venture because it's going to draw, it's going to prop 1:38:26.080 --> 1:38:27.680 I don't know if it'll break records, but it's going 1:38:27.760 --> 1:38:30.200 to be huge business for Netflix, right. 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:31.280 So I don't know. 1:38:31.400 --> 1:38:33.479 I maybe not in the long term, but in the 1:38:33.520 --> 1:38:36.320 short term. I feel like that and especially JDS, right 1:38:36.360 --> 1:38:39.400 because now you're I think that an old JDS. I mean, 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:41.280 if it Jelton I is going to show up and 1:38:41.320 --> 1:38:42.920 do something that would be maybe a guy that you 1:38:42.960 --> 1:38:43.799 could do that against. 1:38:44.880 --> 1:38:47.120 So yeah, I would say, I guess always had really 1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:50.519 good takedown defense. He did. Even when Caine got him down. 1:38:50.600 --> 1:38:52.040 He was pretty for the most I mean, he would 1:38:52.040 --> 1:38:54.679 get abused on the way up, but he was pretty 1:38:54.680 --> 1:38:57.160 good about resisting the takedown. Shane Carwin couldn't do shit 1:38:57.240 --> 1:38:58.200 to him early for the most part. 1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:00.320 Uh. 1:39:00.600 --> 1:39:03.559 So my thought is this, like I don't I can't 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:05.479 believe I'm saying this. I don't know if it's a 1:39:05.520 --> 1:39:06.920 good matchup for Johnson Almana. 1:39:07.200 --> 1:39:09.120 You know, hmm, how old is JDS. 1:39:09.160 --> 1:39:10.840 He's got to be He's got to go hold there, man, 1:39:11.000 --> 1:39:12.920 So I mean that's and the other one like and 1:39:13.240 --> 1:39:15.240 somebody brought this up to me, They're like, why not 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:17.720 get Caine Velasquez now that he's out, And I was like, 1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:21.120 that's such a crazy that's such a crazy thought, right 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:23.600 because his dude has just been like dealing with this 1:39:23.760 --> 1:39:27.519 prison thing for up until now, and all of a 1:39:27.520 --> 1:39:30.240 sudden you would have, like, imagine how compelling that would 1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:31.400 be if he was in the fight shape and he 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:32.240 was going to come back. 1:39:33.320 --> 1:39:37.120 Juju do Santos just turned forty two. Okay, that's not 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:38.840 too bad. I thought he was a little older than that. 1:39:39.000 --> 1:39:44.560 So yeah, I mean he had the shoulder injury. It 1:39:44.680 --> 1:39:46.760 was his last fight, that was the Eagle FC one. No, 1:39:47.280 --> 1:39:50.120 he had two Game Bread Bare Knuckles. He split decision 1:39:50.160 --> 1:39:52.360 for Brisio in twenty twenty three, and then he had 1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:55.360 one in twenty twenty four where Tko Alan Belcher. He 1:39:55.520 --> 1:39:58.920 won the inaugural Game Bread Bare Knuckle MMA heavyweight championship 1:39:58.960 --> 1:40:01.040 that apparently is not a time title at heavy rotation. 1:40:03.920 --> 1:40:06.040 I mean, I don't It really just comes down to 1:40:06.120 --> 1:40:08.040 what he was being offered. But if he was trying 1:40:08.080 --> 1:40:09.720 to get to a fight where he could look good, 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:12.439 you might say, oh, a forty two year old JDS. 1:40:12.560 --> 1:40:15.559 I gotta be honest. I I'm not so sure. I'm 1:40:15.560 --> 1:40:16.320 actually not so sure. 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:18.439 Yeah, all right, we're saying that my connection is a 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:20.640 little weird. So I'm gonna luke you handled this one. 1:40:20.640 --> 1:40:22.240 I'm gonna click back out and come back in. 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:22.680 All right. 1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:23.120 Sounds good? 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:24.200 All right. 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:29.240 Question number three from John Winklfred out of potential opponents 1:40:29.280 --> 1:40:32.439 for Garcia, Oh, good question. How would you rank in 1:40:32.600 --> 1:40:34.920 terms of difficulty for him? Easy? 1:40:35.000 --> 1:40:35.439 This is easy? 1:40:35.479 --> 1:40:39.880 All right. So the choices are Connor, Ben Shakoor, Liam Paro, 1:40:40.040 --> 1:40:43.479 and Liam Paro and then Hani rematch. I put Liam 1:40:43.479 --> 1:40:45.599 Paro at the bottom of the list. I put Connor 1:40:45.680 --> 1:40:49.200 slightly above that. Actually I'm not sure about that. Maybe 1:40:49.360 --> 1:40:51.120 Connor at the bottom than Liam above that. You could 1:40:51.120 --> 1:40:54.360 maybe replace those two hany next, and then Shakur at 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:57.519 the top. I kind of feel like Shakur is far 1:40:57.600 --> 1:40:59.680 and away the most difficult tests or what do you 1:40:59.760 --> 1:41:05.479 think toughest fight is Shakur? Then Haney and then what Okay, 1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:06.639 see here, let's see. 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:07.200 Uh. 1:41:09.080 --> 1:41:11.120 I agree with you. I think that's in that that's 1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:11.760 in that order. 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:15.040 Yep. And so for that reason, people like, oh the 1:41:15.080 --> 1:41:17.040 Shaqur fight should be next. I just don't think it 1:41:17.080 --> 1:41:19.720 would be next. I mean, maybe maybe they find a 1:41:19.760 --> 1:41:21.160 way to make him next, but I don't think so. 1:41:21.280 --> 1:41:24.439 I think he's gonna take something of an easier fight 1:41:24.600 --> 1:41:27.519 along the way, you know, before we get you forget 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:28.080 something like that. 1:41:29.000 --> 1:41:31.640 Is he gonna end up with the Lewis Crocker like 1:41:31.680 --> 1:41:33.920 things gonna end up with the other one. 1:41:34.000 --> 1:41:36.800 Nobody's mentioned. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's go to the 1:41:36.800 --> 1:41:43.360 next question from Tevik Papa the Hawaiian fucking legend. Best 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:49.599 doctor Ero Schmitic, Anthony Fauci, doctor Dre, doctor j Oh, 1:41:49.880 --> 1:41:53.720 doctor Pepper, or Luke's favorite doctor Angela White. Jack's not 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:55.240 my favorite, but I just like bringing the up because 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:56.800 it's funny. Do you know who Angela white is? 1:41:56.920 --> 1:41:57.080 Chuck? 1:41:57.400 --> 1:41:58.720 I don't she the one who? 1:41:59.640 --> 1:42:01.479 You liar? Yes, you do? 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:03.920 I know you do your pants around your ankles? 1:42:04.880 --> 1:42:05.000 Uh? 1:42:05.760 --> 1:42:11.280 Got a favorite doctor of those? Doctor Dre. 1:42:11.680 --> 1:42:13.800 I was gonna say, like doctor Dre pops out, Doctor 1:42:13.880 --> 1:42:15.880 j was, Doctor j was cool though. 1:42:16.760 --> 1:42:20.200 Doctors between those? So I do love a good doctor Pepper. 1:42:20.240 --> 1:42:22.200 I'll be honest and. 1:42:25.080 --> 1:42:27.720 Occasionally, man, occasionally I try to stay away from it. 1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:29.519 It's just a certain age. You're like, that's no good 1:42:29.560 --> 1:42:32.120 for me, you know, but I do like it every day. 1:42:32.160 --> 1:42:33.679 Look at that? What is that a diet? 1:42:34.240 --> 1:42:37.360 Yeah, zero sugar, root beer, no caffeine. No, I do 1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:39.800 like root beer. I do like root beer. All right, 1:42:39.880 --> 1:42:42.080 I think we got at least maybe two more maybe, uh, 1:42:42.600 --> 1:42:47.439 Declan Beatson. Uh, a witch has come and cursed. MK. 1:42:48.160 --> 1:42:51.439 Both hosts now have to look the same. Does Luke 1:42:51.520 --> 1:42:54.320 shave the beard and put on a hat? Or does 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:59.080 Chuck grow and uh the beard and take off the hat? 1:42:59.479 --> 1:43:03.120 Those rules strictly apply. How is the show moving forward? 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:06.479 I don't think I can grow that kind of beard, man, 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:09.000 Like You've got a nice lush beard there like this. 1:43:09.400 --> 1:43:10.640 I don't know if I can. I could do that 1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:13.000 doesn't grow in as as well. I'm not like a 1:43:13.120 --> 1:43:17.560 wild animal, dude, I don't know. 1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:18.080 How do you? 1:43:18.240 --> 1:43:20.800 How do you what's left on your head? How do 1:43:20.880 --> 1:43:21.280 you trim it? 1:43:21.320 --> 1:43:22.960 Do you just shave like a oh, I just got 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:24.920 like a clippers, you know, and you just take off 1:43:24.960 --> 1:43:26.360 all you know, you just shave the. 1:43:28.000 --> 1:43:30.040 Yeah, it takes like two minutes. 1:43:30.280 --> 1:43:32.280 Long island long island. You get a haircut? How does 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:34.719 it work? What's what's your process. Oh I need a haircut? 1:43:34.840 --> 1:43:37.280 What do you do? I go to the barber and 1:43:37.960 --> 1:43:38.559 you call them. 1:43:38.640 --> 1:43:39.919 Do you do like you make an appointment? 1:43:39.960 --> 1:43:42.280 Yeah, I go walk in. I go walk in because 1:43:42.280 --> 1:43:44.680 I'm a freelance so you know, most people are at 1:43:44.760 --> 1:43:46.720 work nine to five during the week. I just go 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:49.720 on like a Tuesday at eleven am. No one's there, 1:43:49.840 --> 1:43:52.000 you know, and there's I don't I'm not picky. There's 1:43:52.080 --> 1:43:54.280 like one good barber there that everyone likes, and then 1:43:54.320 --> 1:43:56.200 there's like two guys on the side. I'll take the 1:43:56.240 --> 1:43:57.519 guys on the side. I don't give fun. 1:43:58.680 --> 1:44:02.479 That's yeah, it sho it shows. Yeah you I was 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:04.360 gonna say money on yours. 1:44:04.600 --> 1:44:04.640 No. 1:44:04.920 --> 1:44:06.200 I used to spend a bunch of money, and now 1:44:06.240 --> 1:44:08.880 I spend far, far less. I mean it's hard to get. Like, 1:44:08.920 --> 1:44:10.479 I don't know where you would go for a haircut 1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:12.280 in the city for less than fifty bucks. I don't know. 1:44:12.600 --> 1:44:14.320 I just don't even know where that would be. But 1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:15.880 I got one guy who does it for like fifty 1:44:15.920 --> 1:44:17.559 depending on what I get, fifty or sixty. 1:44:18.760 --> 1:44:19.240 But there's a. 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:22.679 Process to it. He puts it up like he doesn't 1:44:22.680 --> 1:44:25.760 allow walkins. And what he does is it it's like 1:44:25.840 --> 1:44:27.960 in my neighborhood. So it's like it's cheap, it's in 1:44:28.040 --> 1:44:29.840 my neighborhood. And I like the guy and I feel 1:44:29.840 --> 1:44:31.360 like it is a good job. So like I just 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:33.880 can't abandon the process. But what he does is he 1:44:34.040 --> 1:44:36.760 just creates He's got all his appointments on an app 1:44:37.320 --> 1:44:40.120 and he opens them all up on Sundays at noon, 1:44:40.840 --> 1:44:42.320 and so you just got to be like one of 1:44:42.360 --> 1:44:45.600 the first people to get it. Otherwise you have to 1:44:45.680 --> 1:44:47.280 go at like a weird time or you just missed 1:44:47.320 --> 1:44:49.960 the whole fucking week. So like, you know, on weeks 1:44:50.000 --> 1:44:51.280 where I needed I'll be like, I'll look at the 1:44:51.320 --> 1:44:52.760 clock and be like to in the afternoon, I'm like, 1:44:52.840 --> 1:44:55.679 oh fuck, and I'll go check and all the appointments 1:44:55.680 --> 1:44:57.960 are all booked up for the week and that demand. 1:44:58.880 --> 1:45:00.640 So then I have to ad yeah, I can't. I 1:45:00.640 --> 1:45:02.800 guess there's not a natural way for me to do it. 1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:04.680 So then I end up having these spots where like 1:45:04.680 --> 1:45:06.280 you could look at this ship hanging off, look at 1:45:06.320 --> 1:45:09.519 this look at dumb I need I need some help, 1:45:09.680 --> 1:45:12.080 you know. There you go, all right, Uh that is 1:45:12.160 --> 1:45:14.680 it for dms from donks. What are we doing? For 1:45:14.760 --> 1:45:15.400 the rest of this part. 1:45:15.479 --> 1:45:18.200 I don't even know we're doing higher or lower Everyone's 1:45:18.240 --> 1:45:20.400 favorite game, guys. I just say every game is everyone's 1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:22.600 favorite game. But I'll give you, guys a scenario. You 1:45:22.720 --> 1:45:33.920 tell me if you're taking the higher or ride LT 1:45:34.320 --> 1:45:37.040 You're up first. You just mentioned earlier we were talking 1:45:37.040 --> 1:45:38.360 about getting rid of heavyweight. 1:45:38.479 --> 1:45:38.799 Earlier. 1:45:38.880 --> 1:45:41.759 You know it's barely hanging on women's bandon weight obviously 1:45:41.880 --> 1:45:44.240 also barely hanging on even though the loan finish on 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:47.200 the dumb in a women's spandom weight fight. But you know, 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:50.799 either way, I feel like there's arguably a few divisions 1:45:50.880 --> 1:45:53.439 you could argue getting rid of. So my question to you, Luke, 1:45:53.560 --> 1:45:55.920 is higher and lower than two and a half the 1:45:56.040 --> 1:45:59.840 amount of UFC divisions that you would abolish right now 1:46:00.040 --> 1:46:00.960 if you were in charge. 1:46:02.880 --> 1:46:05.719 So I'm going to take the under. And the reason 1:46:05.800 --> 1:46:08.479 why is because I believe in being some Okay, I 1:46:08.560 --> 1:46:14.960 mean I don't think getting rid of divisions is a 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:18.400 conservative act. I don't mean politically. I mean like, I'm 1:46:18.479 --> 1:46:21.040 not going over the to a crazy amount. What I'm 1:46:21.080 --> 1:46:24.400 saying is I could see a case for more, but 1:46:24.520 --> 1:46:27.880 I think to start, you just formally officially close forty five. 1:46:27.920 --> 1:46:29.920 I know it's basically closed anyway, but I'm just saying, you've, like, 1:46:30.360 --> 1:46:32.439 make it official, we're done in the forty five business, 1:46:33.400 --> 1:46:35.519 and then you know, I would probably get rid of 1:46:35.560 --> 1:46:37.120 heavyweight too, at least temporarily. 1:46:37.320 --> 1:46:37.479 You know. 1:46:37.800 --> 1:46:39.519 Again, I've seen you see get rid of divisions. I 1:46:39.560 --> 1:46:41.120 saw them get rid of light Way and bring it back, 1:46:41.240 --> 1:46:44.360 like you can bring divisions back. But for the time being, 1:46:44.400 --> 1:46:46.679 I'm not sure what the point is unless they make changes, 1:46:46.760 --> 1:46:48.200 right Unange, so too. 1:46:48.720 --> 1:46:50.280 Chuck, you're taking the under as well? 1:46:50.400 --> 1:46:52.479 Or yeah, I mean the one forty five should have 1:46:52.520 --> 1:46:54.479 been long gun because what are they doing with it? 1:46:54.600 --> 1:46:57.360 But I'm at the exact same the exact same thing. 1:46:57.400 --> 1:46:58.880 I don't know if I would pull the plug on 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:01.960 ultimately pull the plug on heavyweight, but I agree they 1:47:02.080 --> 1:47:03.519 just got to, like, you've got to do something with 1:47:03.600 --> 1:47:05.920 it because right now it's a hopeless wasteland. 1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:10.200 Yeah all right, Chuck, Well over to you, Uh Brandon Morino. 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:12.640 I was headlining UFC Mexico City this weekend, and we 1:47:12.800 --> 1:47:15.320 also just got official word that Josh Van is defending 1:47:15.360 --> 1:47:18.599 his title against Tatsuro Tyra at UFC three twenty seven. 1:47:19.120 --> 1:47:22.280 Moreno obviously just lost to Tyra, but he still hasn't 1:47:22.320 --> 1:47:25.960 fought josh Van Manel, cop Kyoji Hoa, Gucci to name 1:47:25.960 --> 1:47:28.880 a few contenders. So, given how the division could play 1:47:28.920 --> 1:47:31.560 out for the next year or so, my question to 1:47:31.640 --> 1:47:35.519 you is higher or lower than one half? So one 1:47:36.160 --> 1:47:38.840 uh the amount of times Brandon Moreno will fight for 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:45.120 a UFC title for the remainder of his Ooh, that's tough, man, right, 1:47:45.160 --> 1:47:46.400 because a lot of things could happen. 1:47:46.640 --> 1:47:49.160 Didn't say he'd win it, just fight for it. Yeah, yeah, 1:47:49.640 --> 1:47:52.360 I would go over that. He's so good Manlan. He's 1:47:52.439 --> 1:47:54.439 not that old like you feel like he is because 1:47:54.439 --> 1:47:55.920 he's been around for a while, but he's really not 1:47:56.040 --> 1:47:56.360 that old. 1:47:56.439 --> 1:47:57.720 So will I will say over. 1:47:58.920 --> 1:48:01.840 But it's gonna be a bit because I mean, unless 1:48:01.880 --> 1:48:05.479 some circumstances intervene. I just I feel like with Joshuva 1:48:05.520 --> 1:48:08.080 and Pantosia obviously like is going to come back. You 1:48:08.120 --> 1:48:10.439 still have more Gucci, so it's gonna be a minute. 1:48:10.479 --> 1:48:13.760 But he's also you notice he gets a big pop 1:48:13.840 --> 1:48:16.280 man like every time they show him, like he's he's 1:48:16.360 --> 1:48:20.519 really developed into a bigger star than I think people understand. 1:48:20.560 --> 1:48:22.519 But if you're in the building and they show him 1:48:22.600 --> 1:48:23.960 like he gets a big pop. So I feel like 1:48:24.000 --> 1:48:26.200 the UFC likes him. So I'll say, over. 1:48:27.040 --> 1:48:29.519 LT, I'll take the under. 1:48:30.439 --> 1:48:33.559 Yeah, I mean, do you think he loses this weekend? 1:48:33.600 --> 1:48:34.360 He's a big favorite. 1:48:34.560 --> 1:48:38.360 No, I don't think he loses this weekend. Certainly he shouldn't. 1:48:38.520 --> 1:48:41.880 I mean, I think we can all agree there. I 1:48:41.920 --> 1:48:44.560 guess what I would say is dudema. I found it 1:48:44.640 --> 1:48:48.320 to be so weird and so strange where you think guys, 1:48:49.000 --> 1:48:52.040 you know, oh they're they they'll hold serve to to 1:48:52.160 --> 1:48:55.479 borrow from the terminology that the tennis terminology that Chuck 1:48:55.560 --> 1:48:57.559 used earlier, where it's like you know they'll be they'll 1:48:57.600 --> 1:48:59.400 be back there and then they never get back there. 1:48:59.760 --> 1:49:02.080 That's seen it in times that just totally surprised me. 1:49:02.160 --> 1:49:03.240 So I'll say I'll take the under. 1:49:03.560 --> 1:49:06.720 All right, fair enough, lt Uh. We know you're a 1:49:06.800 --> 1:49:10.240 diehard TKO fan. You'll follow the brand regardless. 1:49:10.320 --> 1:49:13.280 Anyway. I'm wearing their clone right now on my ball. 1:49:13.400 --> 1:49:16.559 We're talking power slap, we're talking UFC fragrances, and we're 1:49:16.640 --> 1:49:20.680 especially talking zoofa boxing. So my question to you of 1:49:20.920 --> 1:49:25.320 their twenty four total bouts, higher or lower than five 1:49:25.400 --> 1:49:27.800 and a half the amount of ZUFA boxing fights that 1:49:27.960 --> 1:49:29.480 you've watched live. 1:49:34.680 --> 1:49:37.120 Oh, over the over the If the over unders five 1:49:37.160 --> 1:49:39.840 and a half, it's over. I watched almost the entire 1:49:39.960 --> 1:49:40.880 first card live. 1:49:41.280 --> 1:49:44.519 Wow. Okay, see I knew Chuck too. 1:49:44.760 --> 1:49:46.320 That was hostage there. I had to watch it. 1:49:46.479 --> 1:49:46.599 Now. 1:49:46.680 --> 1:49:50.760 Yeah, I guess my question for Chuck then, is Chuck, 1:49:50.880 --> 1:49:53.280 since that first card in the next two, I'll put 1:49:53.280 --> 1:49:55.000 the over under it like two and a half. Have 1:49:55.120 --> 1:49:56.280 you watched any of those live? 1:49:56.520 --> 1:49:57.360 No, not live? 1:49:57.680 --> 1:49:59.560 I've caught up, Like they had the one card, what 1:49:59.680 --> 1:50:01.600 was it the third card where they had some knockouts 1:50:01.840 --> 1:50:04.120 pretty good one to that uppercut so I saw, like 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:06.080 I went back and watched those, but like, no. 1:50:06.240 --> 1:50:08.760 Not live. Okay, that was the only card that I 1:50:08.880 --> 1:50:11.439 actually caught live. I caught those like three knockouts live. 1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:12.559 But that's all I really want. 1:50:12.640 --> 1:50:15.559 That was their best event so far, I guess for sure. 1:50:16.560 --> 1:50:20.080 Chuck. Jack Hughes Let's Go America scored the ot game 1:50:20.160 --> 1:50:23.760 winner for the USA men's Olympic hockey team yesterday, first 1:50:23.800 --> 1:50:27.640 gold medal in forty six years. Whole tournament was really 1:50:27.680 --> 1:50:29.240 fun to watch. It was great to see our boy 1:50:29.400 --> 1:50:34.120 Chuck Islanders and Avalanche legend brock Nelson. Again, my question 1:50:34.280 --> 1:50:37.360 to you, is higher or lower than three and a 1:50:37.400 --> 1:50:40.679 half the amount of men's Olympic hockey games that you watched? 1:50:43.439 --> 1:50:47.400 It's lower, n did you think would be higher. 1:50:47.439 --> 1:50:49.479 You'd be all over it. Honestly, I thought you'd be into. 1:50:49.560 --> 1:50:50.240 There's like I have a. 1:50:50.240 --> 1:50:52.679 Hard time with the Olympics. Some of it is because 1:50:52.720 --> 1:50:55.719 of the times, Like you know, we got kids. Yeah, 1:50:55.800 --> 1:50:58.800 it's tough. It is tough to like grown kids. Chuck's 1:50:58.840 --> 1:50:59.639 kids are adults. 1:51:02.000 --> 1:51:04.759 But uh but no, man, it was. It was definitely 1:51:04.760 --> 1:51:07.000 I think I want I mean so basically. 1:51:08.240 --> 1:51:08.720 Really one. 1:51:08.880 --> 1:51:10.479 I mean the only one though, if you look at 1:51:10.600 --> 1:51:12.800 just the full way through, it was just the last one. 1:51:12.840 --> 1:51:13.519 So I did watch that. 1:51:14.120 --> 1:51:16.040 That game is epic. I woke up early for it, 1:51:16.200 --> 1:51:17.559 hungover as shit. It was a good time. 1:51:17.680 --> 1:51:18.439 Yeah, that was fun. 1:51:19.320 --> 1:51:23.320 LT We talked about connor Ben getting fifteen million, a 1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:26.599 fight that surely has to upset a lot of UFC fighters, 1:51:26.880 --> 1:51:29.200 but we all know they're all reluctant to speak up. 1:51:29.479 --> 1:51:32.240 They're not gonna be about it in fear of upsetting 1:51:32.320 --> 1:51:35.280 the baby beater in charge. So my question to you 1:51:35.560 --> 1:51:38.720 is higher lower than zero point five the amount of 1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:41.679 UFC fighters that will receive a raise as a result 1:51:41.760 --> 1:51:42.759 of the Connor ben signing. 1:51:44.320 --> 1:51:47.439 Here, what's that scene from The Godfather was? I think 1:51:47.439 --> 1:51:49.920 it was Godfather too, where he was like, my offer 1:51:50.080 --> 1:51:54.200 is nothing. That is yeah, that's that's gonna be Nick 1:51:54.240 --> 1:51:55.600 conn Nick con by the way, deserves a lot of 1:51:55.640 --> 1:51:57.519 credit for the signing, but it's gonna be Nick con 1:51:57.600 --> 1:51:58.960 and Daniel when they're like, well, I want more money. 1:51:59.000 --> 1:52:00.479 I saw what you guys were giving out for Connor, 1:52:00.479 --> 1:52:04.120 and they're gonna be like, right, my offer is nothing, zero, nothing, 1:52:04.840 --> 1:52:05.679 It will do nothing. 1:52:05.479 --> 1:52:06.840 And we'll accept it, thank you. 1:52:07.000 --> 1:52:10.559 They're gonna be like, you know what, ud I think 1:52:10.600 --> 1:52:12.720 they're gonna hook up people they like. And when I 1:52:12.800 --> 1:52:15.400 say hook up, it's gonna be so miniscule in the 1:52:15.680 --> 1:52:17.920 grand scheme. But the fighters are gonna think like they're 1:52:17.920 --> 1:52:19.880 gonna be like, we'll give you an extra fifty K 1:52:20.080 --> 1:52:21.800 next time, and they're gonna be like, fuck, yeah, I'm 1:52:21.800 --> 1:52:23.720 getting an extra fIF like the people they like. I'm 1:52:23.760 --> 1:52:26.240 talking like Patty and Ship, you know, like fighters they 1:52:26.800 --> 1:52:28.479 I mean, the thing is, how would. 1:52:28.240 --> 1:52:32.280 You disentangle that from what you could attribute to the 1:52:32.360 --> 1:52:33.120 paramount money. 1:52:33.760 --> 1:52:36.040 You know what I mean, it's the same thing. 1:52:36.120 --> 1:52:38.680 They probably all got a little bump. I know, like, uh, 1:52:39.200 --> 1:52:42.880 who's a fucking is he's manager, he's all the like 1:52:42.960 --> 1:52:44.000 ausie guys managers. 1:52:44.200 --> 1:52:45.360 Yeah, I know who you're talking about. 1:52:45.400 --> 1:52:47.600 Tim from Simpson he h. 1:52:48.280 --> 1:52:50.400 He mentioned like or one of his fighters mentioned like, 1:52:50.479 --> 1:52:52.360 I got a raise for the paramount thing, and then 1:52:52.360 --> 1:52:54.240 they were like shout out Tim, like I'm sure all 1:52:54.320 --> 1:52:57.120 Tim's fighters got raises there. He's in good stand, you 1:52:57.160 --> 1:53:00.280 know what I mean, Like he's a good man strickly. Yeah, 1:53:00.320 --> 1:53:03.639 well he ain't represented by ten. But I'm just saying, 1:53:03.920 --> 1:53:05.760 I feel like some guys are gonna get hooked up, 1:53:05.760 --> 1:53:07.400 but it's not going to be anything, and they're going 1:53:07.439 --> 1:53:08.559 to think they're getting hooked up. 1:53:09.240 --> 1:53:10.960 I get it from the paramount money. I could see 1:53:10.960 --> 1:53:13.320 it raised certainly from just what Connor Ben got all 1:53:13.439 --> 1:53:14.280 because of Connor Ben. 1:53:14.400 --> 1:53:16.400 No. No, yeah, all right, all right, fair enough. 1:53:16.720 --> 1:53:19.800 They're still beg begging for the bonuses after their fights. Man, 1:53:19.880 --> 1:53:21.599 it's crazy, true, Chuck. 1:53:21.920 --> 1:53:24.639 A storyline this week was Dan Egay changing his nickname 1:53:24.720 --> 1:53:27.040 from fifty k to one hundred grand, and everyone was 1:53:27.080 --> 1:53:29.720 debating which one sounded better. This reminded me of when 1:53:29.760 --> 1:53:31.920 Ilia changed his nickname for a day and then took 1:53:31.960 --> 1:53:35.200 it back. It got me thinking of other iconic nicknames 1:53:35.280 --> 1:53:38.000 in the sport, like the man in the Hat for example, 1:53:38.240 --> 1:53:40.639 and how weird it would be if you just decided 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:44.839 one day you're changing it so higher lower than fifty 1:53:45.080 --> 1:53:47.720 thousand dollars the amount of money it would cost you 1:53:47.840 --> 1:53:51.120 to change your nickname to Chuck fifty k into hall. 1:53:53.760 --> 1:53:56.599 I mean at this point, like I mean, and by 1:53:56.640 --> 1:53:58.599 the way, like at these are named like Luke calls 1:53:58.640 --> 1:54:01.040 me iceman. I mean, it's just these are names bestowed 1:54:01.080 --> 1:54:05.519 on you. It's not like I chose them. The man confused. 1:54:05.760 --> 1:54:08.760 I mean I guess, so you gotta take that money, right, Yeah, 1:54:08.920 --> 1:54:10.640 just take the money right? Like, it's just why not, 1:54:11.080 --> 1:54:13.000 I don't mind being fifty k ending all that's right? 1:54:13.040 --> 1:54:15.680 That works. What's the minimum you would take to be 1:54:15.800 --> 1:54:19.200 called and then the middle of day your nickname becomes that? 1:54:19.280 --> 1:54:22.040 So like I have integrity, fifty k is the line, man, 1:54:22.080 --> 1:54:25.320 I mean, that's where it's at, you know, so fair enough? 1:54:25.640 --> 1:54:27.880 Yeah, LT, how much would it cost you to just 1:54:27.960 --> 1:54:31.280 go buy a nickname other than like something's embarrassing something 1:54:31.360 --> 1:54:37.640 you hate ten bucks next live chat someone we're calling 1:54:37.640 --> 1:54:38.000 them something. 1:54:38.040 --> 1:54:44.880 Yeah, my new name is d Blower. It's actually from. 1:54:46.640 --> 1:54:48.880 Luke. We know you trained in your twenties and thirties, 1:54:48.880 --> 1:54:51.840 which would have arguably been your athletic prime. With the 1:54:51.920 --> 1:54:54.520 state of heavyweight today and how bad some of the 1:54:54.600 --> 1:54:58.720 top fifteen guys have looked, my question to you is 1:54:59.240 --> 1:55:02.640 higher or lower than point five the amount of current 1:55:02.760 --> 1:55:06.480 top ten or sorry, top fifteen heavyweights You could beat 1:55:07.720 --> 1:55:10.400 every one out of ten times in your athletic prime, 1:55:11.280 --> 1:55:12.360 so you just got to beat him once. 1:55:13.080 --> 1:55:15.400 If I was in my prime, yeah, and I fought 1:55:15.440 --> 1:55:18.920 the current roster will through a time machine ten times, 1:55:19.200 --> 1:55:21.280 and I had ten times to fight him. How many 1:55:21.320 --> 1:55:22.200 wins could I get? 1:55:22.880 --> 1:55:25.160 Could you get at least one win if you fought 1:55:25.560 --> 1:55:27.040 every top fifteen heavyweight? 1:55:27.080 --> 1:55:27.160 Right? 1:55:27.280 --> 1:55:29.080 Look at the rankings. I mean the answer is almost 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:34.120 certainly no. But man, I feel like I sparred with 1:55:34.240 --> 1:55:36.040 scarier people in my time than we had with the 1:55:36.120 --> 1:55:37.240 rosters on the roster. 1:55:37.880 --> 1:55:39.120 Who took the fifteen spot. 1:55:39.200 --> 1:55:42.120 Now that Jalaton's up, make park in Volter Walker l 1:55:42.200 --> 1:55:45.120 Ghaziev trade with him, you know, I mean probably not 1:55:45.440 --> 1:55:48.240 probably zero, you know, but I might take a couple 1:55:48.240 --> 1:55:49.160 of rounds here and there. 1:55:49.200 --> 1:55:52.120 I'll tell you that I was hoping you'd be this 1:55:52.240 --> 1:55:54.240 and be like fucking over way over. 1:55:55.400 --> 1:55:59.000 With guys that had I mean, I so fucking I remember, 1:55:59.160 --> 1:56:01.040 Oh my god, the first time I went to like 1:56:01.120 --> 1:56:04.480 a the pro fighter's class and they were doing sparring 1:56:04.560 --> 1:56:06.360 in one of these fucking boxing rings, and there was 1:56:06.400 --> 1:56:08.880 a dude in there who literally before it was my 1:56:09.040 --> 1:56:12.280 turn to go spar him, he viciously chaoed the guy 1:56:12.320 --> 1:56:14.040 in front of me, and I was like, oh, my 1:56:14.280 --> 1:56:17.360 fucking guy. And he didn't make it very far in 1:56:17.440 --> 1:56:19.640 the regional scene at all, Like he kind of I mean, 1:56:19.760 --> 1:56:22.120 it wasn't his primary occupation, but he didn't. He didn't 1:56:22.160 --> 1:56:24.000 like make it very far. So I'm gonna give these 1:56:24.040 --> 1:56:27.160 guys a little bit of respect, but you know, yeah, 1:56:27.440 --> 1:56:28.960 there's been a decline, let's put it that way. 1:56:30.600 --> 1:56:34.400 Chuck. I know your fellow crackhead PZ Carol loves his 1:56:34.640 --> 1:56:36.800 Guinness and you've been known to throw a few. 1:56:37.040 --> 1:56:42.360 Most overrated beer on Earth, by the way. Oahara, all right, 1:56:42.720 --> 1:56:45.160 I pas, I don't even like Okay, just straight up 1:56:45.160 --> 1:56:48.480 don't like him. Guinness I actually like, but people talk 1:56:48.520 --> 1:56:52.720 about guinness, Okay, I like, you know, some angel dipped 1:56:52.720 --> 1:56:54.200 his balls in him and all of a sudden, this 1:56:54.360 --> 1:56:56.800 is what its all right? 1:56:56.840 --> 1:56:59.720 Well, speaking of how many times has PZ dipped his no, 1:56:59.840 --> 1:57:02.800 just uh my question to you, Chuck, is higher or 1:57:02.960 --> 1:57:06.120 lower than eight and a half the average number of 1:57:06.200 --> 1:57:09.560 guinness you consume you personally on a night out with 1:57:09.680 --> 1:57:10.680 PZZ Carol. 1:57:10.880 --> 1:57:11.600 Eight and a half? 1:57:12.720 --> 1:57:14.640 I just feel like he's got to be pounding them 1:57:14.680 --> 1:57:16.800 all night, right, Like I'm thinking, we're we're at we're 1:57:16.800 --> 1:57:16.920 in this. 1:57:17.480 --> 1:57:19.880 This is this So PZZ plus Chuck or. 1:57:19.920 --> 1:57:23.200 Just this is like all right? Maybe like with pt 1:57:23.320 --> 1:57:24.080 how many is pizza? 1:57:24.200 --> 1:57:29.080 And if we're drinking guinness he puts them away like 1:57:29.160 --> 1:57:30.800 eight and a half. That seems like a big number, 1:57:30.880 --> 1:57:35.080 but it would be over I'm sure because he like 1:57:35.200 --> 1:57:37.800 he talks about you know, a dozen of those things 1:57:37.880 --> 1:57:39.280 like he can he can put them away. So I'm 1:57:39.320 --> 1:57:41.120 guessing if you were trying to hang out with him 1:57:41.360 --> 1:57:43.400 and they did something like this last time in New York, 1:57:43.440 --> 1:57:45.320 they did some kind of pub crawl and he went 1:57:45.360 --> 1:57:46.840 over that number. So I'm feeling I feel like if 1:57:46.880 --> 1:57:48.440 you were keeping pace with him, I don't know if 1:57:48.440 --> 1:57:49.840 I could, to be honest, but it. 1:57:49.840 --> 1:57:51.880 Would be over that number, all right, Hell yeah, that's 1:57:51.880 --> 1:57:53.320 what I want to You know what, I gotta say this, 1:57:53.640 --> 1:57:57.800 I fucking love day drinking day. Drinking truly might be 1:57:57.880 --> 1:58:01.080 one of my favorite things, but it's loser behavior for 1:58:01.160 --> 1:58:01.680 the most part. 1:58:02.960 --> 1:58:05.520 On a Sunday, I've engaged in plenty of life. 1:58:06.400 --> 1:58:11.200 Listen, listen. Tailgating is fucking great. Yeah, pub crawling I've 1:58:11.280 --> 1:58:13.240 done a million of them. I had a great time 1:58:13.280 --> 1:58:15.200 every day. I mean, this is this is the contradiction 1:58:15.280 --> 1:58:18.280 of my life. I love those things, but it's dub 1:58:18.520 --> 1:58:20.480 t make no mistake about it. 1:58:20.800 --> 1:58:24.879 True. Luke, you mentioned on your watch along on Saturday 1:58:24.960 --> 1:58:27.480 that you're considering getting rid of some of your tattoos. 1:58:27.680 --> 1:58:28.200 Yes, I am. 1:58:28.480 --> 1:58:31.120 Wow, Okay, we know BC was obsessed with the naval 1:58:31.160 --> 1:58:32.840 tat so naturally I just have to ask, is that 1:58:32.920 --> 1:58:33.880 one of the ones you're considered. 1:58:33.920 --> 1:58:34.920 No, No, it's a different one. 1:58:35.080 --> 1:58:38.680 Okay. My real question, though, is higher or lower than 1:58:39.080 --> 1:58:41.120 two and a half the amount of tattoos you were 1:58:41.160 --> 1:58:42.040 considering getting rid of? 1:58:42.560 --> 1:58:43.800 Higher? Wow? 1:58:44.280 --> 1:58:47.560 How many do you have total? Right now? Good questions? 1:58:47.640 --> 1:58:55.040 Let me think one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. 1:58:55.200 --> 1:58:58.600 I have ten I'm gonna get rid of at least 1:58:58.600 --> 1:59:01.840 a third of thee. I was thinking three, Okay, yeah, 1:59:02.320 --> 1:59:04.040 I've got one on my back. I don't like I've 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:06.080 got one on my chest. I was gonna get this 1:59:06.120 --> 1:59:07.800 one covered up, but now I'm like, I don't know 1:59:07.800 --> 1:59:08.960 if I want to get it covered up. I don't 1:59:08.960 --> 1:59:11.320 know if I want. Dude, I've had like a bit 1:59:11.360 --> 1:59:14.040 of a midlife crisis. I mean, I'm dead fucking serious 1:59:14.040 --> 1:59:18.640 about this where I don't know what I like anymore, 1:59:20.800 --> 1:59:24.600 like and this is like like not even just professionally 1:59:24.760 --> 1:59:27.240 or what, like, do I like the same music? What 1:59:27.440 --> 1:59:28.560 about the foods? 1:59:28.840 --> 1:59:31.400 What I mean, like I've had blood just isn't hitting 1:59:31.480 --> 1:59:35.520 as hard as it used to again, as hard as 1:59:35.560 --> 1:59:37.200 it used to. You know, You're like, do I like 1:59:37.280 --> 1:59:38.080 this music anymore? 1:59:38.320 --> 1:59:38.400 Well? 1:59:38.440 --> 1:59:43.600 I still kind of like that, but even I don't listen. 1:59:43.720 --> 1:59:45.040 Like the thing about that kind of music is you 1:59:45.120 --> 1:59:46.960 just can't listen to it regularly. Like I do like it, 1:59:47.040 --> 1:59:48.320 but I can't listen to it every day. It's just 1:59:48.400 --> 1:59:50.280 too much. But what I mean to say is like 1:59:50.320 --> 1:59:52.040 I've been looking at my tattoos and I'm like I 1:59:52.120 --> 1:59:54.480 don't like these anymore, you know, And so you have 1:59:54.520 --> 1:59:55.840 a choice when that happens, you have a choice. You 1:59:55.840 --> 1:59:57.600 can do nothing and just a guy who cares, which 1:59:57.600 --> 1:59:59.840 a lot of people do too. You can get it removed. 2:00:00.000 --> 2:00:01.720 Three you can get it covered up. And I'm like, well, 2:00:01.760 --> 2:00:04.280 if the issue is I don't like the tattoo, do 2:00:04.400 --> 2:00:07.080 I want to just get littered with more tattoos? No? 2:00:07.200 --> 2:00:09.200 I think I want to erase some of them and 2:00:09.280 --> 2:00:11.520 then keep the ones I like that I've gotten more 2:00:11.520 --> 2:00:13.000 recently and put a little more money into. But dude, 2:00:13.000 --> 2:00:14.560 I got I got a tattoo on my chest here 2:00:14.600 --> 2:00:17.360 I hate and I got it when I was I 2:00:17.440 --> 2:00:20.280 got it when I was nineteen at Red Dragon Tattoo 2:00:20.320 --> 2:00:24.640 in Charlottesville, Virginia. Like, it's like, what the fuck am 2:00:24.640 --> 2:00:25.360 I keeping that around? 2:00:26.920 --> 2:00:29.160 Elsie. My other question to you about tattoos real quick, 2:00:29.240 --> 2:00:31.760 is of the three you're getting rid of, what number 2:00:31.920 --> 2:00:32.800 tattoos were those? 2:00:32.840 --> 2:00:33.840 So you're at ten right now? 2:00:34.000 --> 2:00:37.840 That's a good question. On So that's a good question. 2:00:38.080 --> 2:00:40.920 So the one on my chests would be number the 2:00:40.960 --> 2:00:42.480 second one I ever got, so I was number two. 2:00:43.320 --> 2:00:44.960 The one on my back I'm thinking about getting rid 2:00:44.960 --> 2:00:49.320 of would be either three or four, and then there's 2:00:49.360 --> 2:00:56.800 another one that would be so so two, three, and four. 2:00:56.880 --> 2:00:58.600 I'm not sure exactly the order in which three and 2:00:58.680 --> 2:01:00.800 four go, but it would be the first one and 2:01:00.880 --> 2:01:01.760 it wouldn't be five on. 2:01:02.360 --> 2:01:04.720 Maybe if you were trying to get rid of ones 2:01:04.760 --> 2:01:06.400 you got more later in life, I'd be like, Woa, 2:01:06.400 --> 2:01:06.800 why'd you know? 2:01:07.080 --> 2:01:09.080 No those ones? This this the one I got. I 2:01:09.120 --> 2:01:11.360 will tell you this, I'll show it to you. So 2:01:12.600 --> 2:01:14.520 this one I got of the DC flag, I'm going 2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:16.160 to keep it. But I'm actually I think I'm gonna 2:01:16.160 --> 2:01:19.920 get a recolored I'm gonna get a colored black because 2:01:21.200 --> 2:01:23.680 this was designed to look like a stamp rather than 2:01:23.760 --> 2:01:29.040 an imprint. But the the the coloring that the guy used, 2:01:29.120 --> 2:01:30.880 again I didn't know much about tattooing at the time. 2:01:31.240 --> 2:01:34.240 The coloring the guy used has faded and it's not 2:01:34.400 --> 2:01:38.160 worked as intended. And also it's a different red than 2:01:38.200 --> 2:01:40.360 the red here, than the red here and then the 2:01:40.440 --> 2:01:42.800 red here. So I'm thinking about just making it the 2:01:42.880 --> 2:01:45.360 same color as this one to create a more consistent 2:01:45.400 --> 2:01:48.640 color profile. But I don't I don't have any plans 2:01:48.640 --> 2:01:49.440 of removing that one. 2:01:50.600 --> 2:01:52.680 It's expensive to get a tattoo removed. 2:01:53.720 --> 2:01:56.280 Yes, I'm about to find out. I'm about to find out. 2:01:57.360 --> 2:02:00.240 I'm pretty sure you go for like twenty sessions that 2:02:00.360 --> 2:02:01.440 much and each session is. 2:02:01.440 --> 2:02:03.320 I think it depends on how this this tattoo I 2:02:03.360 --> 2:02:04.880 have here is not very big, and I don't think 2:02:04.920 --> 2:02:06.440 it would take twenty sessions to ring. 2:02:06.840 --> 2:02:08.800 Oh maybe not. Yeah, maybe it depends on the size. 2:02:08.840 --> 2:02:11.360 All right, Uh, Chuck. We once put up a lower 2:02:11.440 --> 2:02:14.680 for you during pregame preview that said from Colorado, but 2:02:14.840 --> 2:02:17.440 doesn't smoke weed, And to this day, I still don't 2:02:17.440 --> 2:02:21.440 even know if that's true. So with how acceptable weed 2:02:21.560 --> 2:02:24.600 is now, it feels inevitable that you would have been 2:02:24.640 --> 2:02:27.160 in a situation where, at least if you didn't have some, 2:02:27.360 --> 2:02:30.600 someone you know had some. So my question to you 2:02:30.880 --> 2:02:34.000 is higher lower than point five the amount of times 2:02:34.040 --> 2:02:36.880 you've consumed cannabis in the last three hundred and sixty 2:02:36.920 --> 2:02:37.400 five days. 2:02:39.680 --> 2:02:42.600 It's under because I haven't done it, but I've done plenty. 2:02:42.280 --> 2:02:47.760 Of life, I said, put them on the spot. 2:02:48.040 --> 2:02:49.720 Yeah, Well, I mean. 2:02:51.280 --> 2:02:53.920 You go to nope, destroy your future opportunities. This is 2:02:53.960 --> 2:02:55.000 what this is show is all about. 2:02:55.120 --> 2:02:57.600 Now, you know, to this day, like if it just 2:02:57.720 --> 2:02:59.600 you know the circles you run in. It's not like 2:02:59.640 --> 2:03:01.640 I mean the people eating the gummies and stuff more 2:03:01.720 --> 2:03:04.520 than than doing that. But at the same time, like 2:03:05.600 --> 2:03:07.640 it's been a while man like, but I'm like, you know, 2:03:08.240 --> 2:03:10.800 but I am from Colorado man, and uh you know. 2:03:11.640 --> 2:03:15.960 Bro that Colorado weed, Colorado man. Yes, you're not fucking 2:03:16.000 --> 2:03:18.920 around out there, No, Ben, do you want to go though? 2:03:19.840 --> 2:03:21.560 Look at a good time with Gloria one time. 2:03:21.720 --> 2:03:25.080 I do recall that. Yeah, I mean that's God damn. 2:03:26.760 --> 2:03:29.600 Uh Eltie. You've mentioned that he sends you a bunch 2:03:29.680 --> 2:03:31.200 and I've seen some of it in our own group 2:03:31.280 --> 2:03:34.520 pat with BC. We know he loves sending conspiracy theories. 2:03:34.800 --> 2:03:36.640 Dude, right, let me let me let me stop there, 2:03:36.680 --> 2:03:41.120 stop there, you might ruin the over under. Listen to 2:03:41.160 --> 2:03:43.920 me for a second. If you're a fan of Brian Campbell, 2:03:44.120 --> 2:03:46.720 you need to engage in a well a digital wellness 2:03:46.840 --> 2:03:51.640 check on this man. My guy this morning is sending 2:03:51.720 --> 2:03:56.960 me conspiracy theories all day, yesterday and today all weekend. 2:03:57.480 --> 2:04:02.840 Brian Campbell, he my guy, loves conspiracies as much as 2:04:02.880 --> 2:04:05.440 he likes straweights. I'm just gonna put it that way, Okay, Oh. 2:04:05.400 --> 2:04:07.120 My God, like that all right. Well, I have a 2:04:07.160 --> 2:04:09.320 feeling I made this over under way too low. But 2:04:09.800 --> 2:04:12.800 my question to you is higher or lower than nineteen 2:04:12.840 --> 2:04:16.640 and a half the amount of conspiracy theory related content 2:04:16.800 --> 2:04:18.919 that Brian Campbell has sent you in the last Dude. 2:04:18.800 --> 2:04:20.760 You should have done nineteen and a half to the 2:04:20.920 --> 2:04:24.560 nineteenth and a half power to even get close to 2:04:24.680 --> 2:04:29.280 the number. This is a gross under lord, what are 2:04:29.320 --> 2:04:29.840 we talking about? 2:04:30.120 --> 2:04:34.600 Triple digits could easily seven days seven day. 2:04:34.520 --> 2:04:38.160 Could easily be yeah, honestly, could easily be like it's 2:04:38.320 --> 2:04:41.280 you whatever you think it is, it's ten x that amount. 2:04:41.640 --> 2:04:43.880 Yeah, And part of that is because his number for 2:04:43.960 --> 2:04:45.520 the marijuana thing is over. 2:04:48.680 --> 2:04:51.520 Also, in fairness to him and Chuck, you'll appreciate this. 2:04:52.160 --> 2:04:53.800 He's right about this because we were we were I 2:04:53.920 --> 2:04:55.920 was talking to I was chatting with him yesterday and 2:04:56.080 --> 2:04:57.600 we were talking and I was like, Dude, this weather 2:04:57.680 --> 2:04:59.840 has fucking this winter has been terrible. This was a 2:05:00.080 --> 2:05:02.840 terrible winter. Because I don't know how you guys feel. 2:05:03.000 --> 2:05:04.680 We had you guys, I think you guys had it 2:05:04.760 --> 2:05:07.160 too this well. I think you'all streets may have been 2:05:07.160 --> 2:05:09.240 cleared better, but we had the snow creek here I've 2:05:09.240 --> 2:05:11.280 been talking about that. Oh yeah, you didn't get much snow, 2:05:11.320 --> 2:05:14.080 but then it instantly froze and just sat in the road. 2:05:14.480 --> 2:05:17.560 I felt more trapped here during the last month than 2:05:17.600 --> 2:05:20.480 I ever felt during the pandemic because most of that time, 2:05:20.960 --> 2:05:23.440 because you remember, the pandemic didn't really kick into high 2:05:23.440 --> 2:05:26.240 gear until like late February March or whatever, so by 2:05:26.280 --> 2:05:28.600 that point you're kind of already outside. And again, I'm 2:05:28.640 --> 2:05:30.400 not saying that the pandemic didn't have a lot of 2:05:30.520 --> 2:05:32.480 like negative effects for people. Of course it did. I'm 2:05:32.480 --> 2:05:34.920 just trying to point out I felt I personally felt 2:05:35.040 --> 2:05:38.560 less constrained by that at that time. I have felt 2:05:38.960 --> 2:05:42.440 like I've got cabin fever to the degree. And was 2:05:42.480 --> 2:05:45.760 also admitting that the cold weather and then everything was 2:05:46.320 --> 2:05:47.960 was not his favorite. Let's plit that way. 2:05:48.080 --> 2:05:51.080 Yeah, it was affecting him. Yes, it's affected me too. 2:05:51.360 --> 2:05:53.960 I'm going crazy bad, dude. Well that's my stucks that 2:05:54.040 --> 2:05:55.760 we just got this storm. I'm like, the snow was 2:05:55.840 --> 2:05:57.880 finally going it was finally warm this week, it was 2:05:57.920 --> 2:05:59.720 starting to go away, and then it just saw about it. 2:06:00.200 --> 2:06:01.400 Dude, on the fuck your head up for sure? 2:06:01.720 --> 2:06:03.600 Yeah, all right, chuck, last one for you more of 2:06:03.640 --> 2:06:05.240 a was already stupid. 2:06:05.440 --> 2:06:05.720 Sorry. 2:06:06.000 --> 2:06:06.120 Uh. 2:06:06.680 --> 2:06:09.200 Headed into twenty twenty six, I thought women's ban and 2:06:09.200 --> 2:06:12.120 Weight had the opportunity. I won't say it was a guarantee, 2:06:12.320 --> 2:06:13.760 but for a bit of a resurgence. You know, we 2:06:13.840 --> 2:06:16.320 had a Manda versus Caleb booked. It seems like, Okay, 2:06:16.440 --> 2:06:19.240 we're gonna see some fun fights here. Possibly then Kayla 2:06:19.280 --> 2:06:21.440 gets the next surgery. A whole division just goes back 2:06:21.480 --> 2:06:24.520 to complete irrelevance. I don't even know if there's more 2:06:24.600 --> 2:06:27.120 than fifteen women's band weight on the roster or if 2:06:27.200 --> 2:06:29.920 the top fifteen is just the fifteen women's band and 2:06:29.960 --> 2:06:33.480 weight that's all through four cards so far in twenty 2:06:33.520 --> 2:06:36.040 twenty six, we have had two women's band and weight 2:06:36.120 --> 2:06:40.120 fights already. So my question to you is including those 2:06:40.200 --> 2:06:42.920 two higher or lower than nine and a half the 2:06:43.000 --> 2:06:45.680 amount of women's ban and weight fights the UFC puts 2:06:45.720 --> 2:06:47.280 on this entire calendar year. 2:06:47.600 --> 2:06:51.160 Wow, you know, I do like the rankings at y'allhoo 2:06:51.240 --> 2:06:52.880 liked that. And what you realize because you. 2:06:52.880 --> 2:06:54.760 Have to kind of write this blurbage to like, oh, 2:06:54.840 --> 2:06:56.800 this is what they're doing, and how many of them 2:06:56.840 --> 2:06:59.920 are just inactive for large periods of time. 2:07:03.080 --> 2:07:04.440 I'd still put it over. 2:07:04.920 --> 2:07:06.600 This would be an interesting to revisit though, because I 2:07:06.640 --> 2:07:09.440 hadn't really thought about I haven't really thought about that, 2:07:09.600 --> 2:07:12.720 but like, you're right, it's not exactly like the cupboards 2:07:12.760 --> 2:07:15.160 are full right now with these women bantam weights. I'd 2:07:15.200 --> 2:07:18.680 still put it over though, just I think that i'd 2:07:18.720 --> 2:07:20.120 have to look up the number. But I feel like 2:07:20.160 --> 2:07:22.320 there's enough. There's enough. Like if they even got like 2:07:23.120 --> 2:07:26.040 one fight apiece, you know type thing, it'd be in 2:07:26.120 --> 2:07:26.520 that range. 2:07:26.680 --> 2:07:28.440 Well, see, that's all right. So we've had two already. 2:07:28.520 --> 2:07:32.240 There is one this weekend, Macy Chasson versus Eileen Perez. 2:07:33.000 --> 2:07:35.600 But I feel like the division's just gonna go stale 2:07:35.680 --> 2:07:37.600 after those fights. Yeah, Like I don't think they're booking 2:07:37.640 --> 2:07:40.360 Joscelyn Edwards versus the winner of that tomorrow. You know, 2:07:41.800 --> 2:07:44.680 I don't know. But either way, women's bandwid in shambles. Guys, 2:07:44.720 --> 2:07:46.280 that was high or lower? I hope you enjoyed it. 2:07:46.920 --> 2:07:49.880 Fun Long Island. 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