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Speaker 1: Welcome In Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. It

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Speaker 1: was an incredible performance from jd Vance last night that

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Speaker 1: I think is going to have significant momentum for the

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Speaker 1: Trump Vance ticket as we roll into October. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that I think many people have wanted for

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Speaker 1: some time is for there to be an articulate version

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Speaker 1: of the Trump argument and Trump gets to In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I think Bucks two the right place on many, if

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Speaker 1: not most, issues facing the country today. But he is

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Speaker 1: a bull in a china shop getting there, breaking all

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Speaker 1: sorts of things in the process. And if you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at much of the media attacks on Trump,

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Speaker 1: it's actually for the process, not the end result. And

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Speaker 1: what stood out to me last night, We're going to

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Speaker 1: play a lot of cuts for you, and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: to hear all of Buck's take on this as well,

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Speaker 1: But what stood out to me last night was jd

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Speaker 1: Vance was incredibly articulate at making arguments both for himself

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Speaker 1: and for Trump when they tried to attack him based

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Speaker 1: on what Trump had said, and Tim Walls, I just

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's not up for this job. And I

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Speaker 1: thought as the debate went on, it probably was becoming

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Speaker 1: clearer and clearer to so many people out there that

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Speaker 1: had been sold a false bill of goods about what

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Speaker 1: jd Vance was. They tried to attack him as weird,

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Speaker 1: and I can only imagine the cognitive dissonance associated with

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Speaker 1: that as you watched this forty year old father of

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Speaker 1: three look completely calm, normal, steadfast, talented as he dissected

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Speaker 1: arguments and buck. To me, the ultimate big takeaway from

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Speaker 1: the VP debate at its most foundational level is it's

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Speaker 1: the most important choice that you make as president once

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Speaker 1: you're the nominee, and it tells us a lot about you.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Trump picked jd Vance, who is a brilliant,

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Speaker 1: stellar communicator and advocate, and Kamala Harris picked Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: who was a doddering, buffoonish liar who actually only got picked,

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Speaker 1: I think because Josh Shapiro happens to be Jewish, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to get into that, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to become a larger criticism on the

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Speaker 1: left of Kala. But Kamala picked a boone. Trump picked

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Speaker 1: a stud and last night that ultimately reflected well on Trump,

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Speaker 1: and I thought poorly on Kamala. What was your kind

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Speaker 1: of big picture takeaway from last night.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a better debate performance on the

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Speaker 2: Merits on a presidential or vice presidential stage in my

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Speaker 2: memory than what I saw from JD Vance last night. Now,

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Speaker 2: Trump has had some incredibly effective debate performances. Obviously, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's campaign ended after one. Trump beating all of the

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Speaker 2: Republicans in the twenty sixteen primary was a sight to see.

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Speaker 2: But I think we all should be honest. Trump's version

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Speaker 2: of winning the debate is a little different from what

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Speaker 2: you would think of if you had been on like

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Douglas or policy debate team in high school.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Trump is good with the one liners and the jokes

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Speaker 2: and the performance, and that's not the same kind of

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Speaker 2: thing that you saw on display last night. Look, I

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Speaker 2: thought it was a really respectful and substantive debate. I

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Speaker 2: thought that there was a nice level of decorum and

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Speaker 2: decency showed by both candidates. I think JD put on

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Speaker 2: a clinic on the Merits for how to disassemble your

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Speaker 2: opponent's arguments, stay on message, speak with clarity and eloquence

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Speaker 2: so he gets an A plus.

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Speaker 1: Walls from me was better than I thought he would

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Speaker 1: be Oh he was okay. He was a little better

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Speaker 2: Now that this is always about what are your expectations, right,

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Speaker 2: I thought that he would go in there where there's oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, a fancy J. D.

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Speaker 1: Waltz with his Yale degree. He didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do the mud slinging kind of idiot talking

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Speaker 2: points that I had expected. Look, he got he got

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Speaker 2: nailed on the China visit issue, which was just bizarre

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Speaker 2: the way that he handled that. But I guess he

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to say, look, I just lied, and you

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Speaker 2: guys called me the lie. There were there were a

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Speaker 2: range of areas where I think he did really poorly.

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Speaker 2: The only place where I think he managed to sound

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Speaker 2: like somebody who knows anything about anything was on healthcare.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I thought that he handled Look, he's

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Speaker 2: lucky he's in the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you asked the governor of North the

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Speaker 2: about oil, they're gonna know oil. Minnesota is a big

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Speaker 2: healthcare state, so it was a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: sweet spot for him. The thing that I thought was

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Speaker 2: most impressive for JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's this thing that people say after debates,

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Speaker 2: and people said it after the ABC News debate, Clay,

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Speaker 2: if you're complaining about the refs, you're losing, actually not

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Speaker 2: always true, Yeah, because the refs were terrible, as in,

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Speaker 2: the moderators were absolute partisan garbage, and JD. Vance still

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Speaker 2: handily won the debate. It was three on one and

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Speaker 2: he smoked all three. I mean, some of the all

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Speaker 2: the framing of the questions meant to help, meant to

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Speaker 2: help Walls. The way they fact checked or you know,

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Speaker 2: they kind of corrected or whatever they want to call it,

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Speaker 2: JD and not Walls couldn't have been more obvious. Whenever

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Speaker 2: it was time to ask a follow up of Walls,

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Speaker 2: it was, what do.

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Speaker 1: You want to add to that?

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Speaker 2: They're big tim you know, I mean they might as

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Speaker 2: well have been giving him a shoulder rub on the screen.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to go because I think this

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Speaker 2: is so important Clay. After the ABC News to beate,

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Speaker 2: people were, oh, you're complaining about Muir, it's because you lost.

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Speaker 2: Trump didn't look at the numbers, didn't lose that debate

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Speaker 2: by public opinion. And beyond that, the moderator was garbage.

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Speaker 2: The moderators in this were garbage. Brennan and whatever the

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Speaker 2: other lady's name, odn O'Donnell. They were clearly partisan hacks,

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Speaker 2: and JD Vance smoked them. So just remember that the

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Speaker 2: next time someone's like, if you're complaining about the refs, no,

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Speaker 2: it is possible to have terrible refs and win the game.

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Speaker 1: And JD did, And what he did was what I

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Speaker 1: wish Trump had done, because let's play that clip. I

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Speaker 1: think it's so important. Trump never directly confronted David Muir

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Speaker 1: constantly trying to fact check him when they tried, and

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Speaker 1: I only remember buck one time where they tried, and

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Speaker 1: was so devastating JD. Vance's response to them, which eliminated

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Speaker 1: that he understood the issue so much better than they did,

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Speaker 1: and also demonstrated just how much of partisan hacks they

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Speaker 1: thought that was the moment where he took complete control

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Speaker 1: of the debate. Let's play that for people out there.

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Speaker 1: It's the one thing I wish Trump had been willing

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Speaker 1: to do during his debate against Kamala Harris because I

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Speaker 1: think it would have brought into the open for more

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Speaker 1: people just how rigged and biased it was. But listen

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Speaker 1: to that from last night.

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Speaker 4: Just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have

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Speaker 4: a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status

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Speaker 4: temporary protective maura.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, senator.

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Speaker 4: We have so much to get to, Margaret.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to the economy. Thanks Margaret.

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Speaker 3: The rules were that you got in a fact check,

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Speaker 3: and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important

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Speaker 3: to say what's actually going on.

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Speaker 1: So there's an application called.

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Speaker 3: The CBP one app where you can go on as

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Speaker 3: an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole

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Speaker 3: and be granted legal status at the wave of a

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris open border Wand that is not a person

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Speaker 3: coming in applying for a green cart and waiting for

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Speaker 3: ten years. Thank you, Senator of a legal immigration Margaret bye.

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Speaker 4: Thank you senator for describing the legal product. Have so

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Speaker 4: much ticket to the Senator, go sell the book.

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Speaker 5: Since nineteen ninety, thank you, gentlemen, the app has not

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Speaker 5: been on the books.

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.

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Speaker 2: There was no reasons. Yes, I agree, you know no

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Speaker 2: reason immute is Mike there? That was just sort of

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Speaker 2: spiteful garbage from these moderators. First of all, listen to

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Speaker 2: the the by the facts and by the by the reality.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like he listens to the Clay and buckshow

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Speaker 2: and immigration. I'll be honest with you talking about this

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Speaker 2: AVP one app talking about and this is what I

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Speaker 2: try to say to people, and I get frustrated. We

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Speaker 2: discussed this here a lot on the show. Whatever you

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Speaker 2: think the problem with a legal immigration is, it's actually

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Speaker 2: worse because Biden Harris have abused laws to bring in

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Speaker 2: even more people through what is essentially an emergency immigration

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Speaker 2: process of if you don't take me, I'm gonna die.

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Speaker 2: If you don't take me, I'm gonna be tortured. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's supposed to be like for an actual emergency, not

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Speaker 2: ten million or five million or however many millions of

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Speaker 2: people have come into the country. That's what they've allowed

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Speaker 2: to happen. It's critical. So I thought Clay that exchange

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Speaker 2: was important on the merits right, on the actual substance

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Speaker 2: of the policy, but also to not let them get

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Speaker 2: away with that I mean to do this little you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was sitting watching this with I did

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Speaker 1: that's like a mom treats the kids, where you just

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Speaker 1: like Pete's kind of a allusion. Clay Well, his wife

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Speaker 1: was there, Who's fantastic, And she was saying, and she

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Speaker 1: It does remind me of what a parent does to

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was impossible to ignore from that

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Speaker 1: point forward once he directly confronted them, first of all,

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Speaker 1: how much smarter he is than they are. Let's be clear,

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Speaker 1: you can rip jd Vance for opinions you disagree with

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Speaker 1: him on. But the reason I thought that he would

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Speaker 1: win is I think there was a massive IQ differential

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Speaker 1: between jd Vance and Tim Walls. I think Tim Walls

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Speaker 1: is not a very smart man. I think jd Vance

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Speaker 1: are really smart. Did he come across as as likable though?

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Speaker 3: To you?

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Speaker 1: Would you say, or more likeable than you anticipated. Walls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was where I compare him to Kamala That's

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Speaker 2: what I mean. If you look at those two, Tim

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Speaker 2: Wallas is far more affable than Kamala Harris in terms of.

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Speaker 1: One thing I was thinking Buck was if we hadn't

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Speaker 1: gotten Biden dropping out, can you imagine what jad Vance

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Speaker 1: would have done to Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's the only part of last night that was

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Speaker 2: disappointing for me. It would have been almost worth it

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Speaker 2: just to have that whole situation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been an a visceration. The

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Speaker 1: other thing I'll say, and we need to kind of

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Speaker 1: dive into this more. I also think this is why

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Speaker 1: I know people get mad when people sit for these

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Speaker 1: antagonistic interviews, but iron sharpens iron. Jd Vance was ready

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Speaker 1: for them to hit him with the most biased, the

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Speaker 1: most unfair, the most rigged questions because he has been

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Speaker 1: sitting for these interviews. He was prepared. He didn't need

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Speaker 1: Walls when he got one actually confrontational question, crumbled because

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Speaker 1: they've tried to hide him and and actually, you do

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Speaker 1: a disservice to your candidate when you don't allow them

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking

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Speaker 1: that he's bad with grammar. Now he says he's a knucklehead.

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Speaker 1: Another way to say that would be he's lied multiple

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Speaker 1: times about his past.

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Speaker 2: There were some major areas of weakness that I think

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Speaker 2: the Democrat ticket, both Walls and Harris got away with

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Speaker 2: last night because of the moderators were if you were

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Speaker 2: if you were watching that debate and you didn't know

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Speaker 2: what was going on, like if you just were, you know,

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Speaker 2: dropped in from another country or another time period, would

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Speaker 2: you even know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have

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Speaker 2: been running this country in the White House for the

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Speaker 2: last four years. I mean, think of the amount of

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Speaker 2: time been on Trump and what Trump did, which is

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Speaker 2: interesting because JD. Vance wasn't on that ticket. Jad Vance

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Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't with Trump. That was over four, you know,

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Speaker 2: going on four years ago.

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Speaker 1: Now JD. Vance wasn't even in politics buck when all

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Speaker 1: of that happened in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: But you see what I mean, they forced by the

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Speaker 2: way they set up the questions and the way that

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Speaker 2: they brought up topics and everything else. They tried to

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Speaker 2: make it a referendum on Trump's first term while protecting

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Speaker 2: the Democrat on the stage, Walls from having to speak

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Speaker 2: about how it hasn't been a good four years okay,

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Speaker 2: worst order ever, the thing that drives me insane is

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Speaker 2: I need in neon lights if there's another debate, Trump

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Speaker 2: or vance whatever. Ten million okay, ten million in four years,

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Speaker 2: mostly illegally, some of them getting cheap. By the way,

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Speaker 2: temporary protected status is like it's supposed to be renewed

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Speaker 2: every six months, okay, and the second and it's not renewed,

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Speaker 2: then you're deportable.

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Speaker 1: So this idea like.

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Speaker 2: They're here legally, they're they're here legally right now, They're

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Speaker 2: gonna be here illegally really soon. And of course Democrats

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Speaker 2: aren't gonna want to enforce that or deport them either.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole game. But Clay, I just feel like.

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Speaker 2: If if Biden and Kamala Harris had had a good

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Speaker 2: four years, that would be a dominant component of you know, JD.

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Speaker 2: Van I mean, sorry, Tim Walls will be up there

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Speaker 2: saying I'm going to continue the you know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: finish the job. I'm gonna continue the trajectory I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: rack up more wins. You didn't even know who was

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Speaker 2: president last night? Did they even mention Biden? And why

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Speaker 2: hasn't anyone asked in a debate Kamala or Walls about

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Speaker 2: the enormous fraud perpetrated on the American people of Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden has dementia and Kamala knew it for a long

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Speaker 2: time and lied about it.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, there are two other things that I

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Speaker 1: think if you're gonna have Tim Walls on the stage

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Speaker 1: as much as I think him lying about Tianaman Square

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Speaker 1: and putting him on the spot is is valid. Fuck.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't asked anything about the BLM riots in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: that he allowed to occur. And he wasn't asked anything

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Speaker 1: at all about his COVID lockdowns, which were among the

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Speaker 1: most draconian of any state in the country. Wouldn't you think,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to assess whether this guy deserves to

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Speaker 1: be a heartbeat away from the presidency, that the two

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Speaker 1: most consequential decisions he's made in his political career not

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Speaker 1: calling in the state National Guard to protect Minneapolis from

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Speaker 1: being burned down, the fact that his wife bragged about

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Speaker 1: leaving the windows open and allowing the refuge of burning

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis to waft in so she could smell it in

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Speaker 1: some sort of strange white guilt reference, and then not

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Speaker 1: asking Tim Walls, hey coach, in retrospect, do you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about football all the time? Do you regret shutting

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Speaker 1: down every high school athletic event in the fall of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty and not allowing kids to play sports to

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Speaker 1: make them wear masks? Is there any part, given all

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Speaker 1: the failures of Minnesota public school kids all the time

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Speaker 1: that you kept them out of classroom, any regret about

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Speaker 1: how you handle those Those are consequential questions. Again, going

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Speaker 1: to what you said, you and I would probably get

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Speaker 1: ripped because people would be angry that we didn't go

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Speaker 1: after the Democrats. But I think that the fair job

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Speaker 1: is to ask broad questions based on the decisions that

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Speaker 1: politicians have made and make them have to answer for them.

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Speaker 1: That's what you should do as a moderator to both sides.

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Speaker 1: As a second question, First of all, there's a hurricane

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Speaker 1: relief effort right now that goes to the heart of

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Speaker 1: the competency or lack thereof, of this federal government to

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Speaker 1: make the question about climate change is maniacal, It is lunacy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and this is a This is just climate change. As

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Speaker 1: I've said so many times, religious religious belief for people

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Speaker 1: who think they're too smart for religion. Particularly climate change

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Speaker 1: is for people who don't have any material concerns in

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Speaker 1: their day to day as in, it's like the hobby

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Speaker 1: of the elites to pretend to be concerned about this

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Speaker 1: because it's a way of really virtue signaling and social signaling.

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Speaker 1: Point being clay inexcusable to have a second, what is

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Speaker 1: the answer supposed to be climate change is real according

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Speaker 1: to the scientists.

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Speaker 2: What is even anyone going to say of any interest,

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Speaker 2: we're going to try to bring down global climate one

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Speaker 2: degree celsius over the next fifty years. I mean, go

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Speaker 2: blank yourself, man, Like I was, like, you've got to

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Speaker 2: be kidding me. All cares.

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Speaker 1: Also, just if you want to argue climate change, and look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to minimize the impact of Hurricane Helen

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Speaker 1: right now on many different communities. No hurricanes happen and

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Speaker 1: have always happened. There has nothing to do with it. Correct.

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Speaker 1: And also this is one of the least active hurricane

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Speaker 1: seasons that we have ever seen. They predicted that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be one of the most active sighting

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Speaker 1: of course climate change, but historically we are right now

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Speaker 1: in the midst of one of the least active hurricane

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Speaker 1: seasons that we have ever seen in modern United States history.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that you would cite the one hurricane

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Speaker 1: basically that has made landfall this year as evidence of

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Speaker 1: climate change. There are a lot of people out there

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Speaker 1: who have lived a long time that have seen an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of hurricanes, and buck the data reflects that

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Speaker 1: actually in Florida some of the most devastating hurricanes to

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Speaker 1: ever come through. I believe we're in the nineteen forties

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Speaker 1: like that was actually the decade where Florida got slammed. Now,

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Speaker 1: there was far less people living in Florida then, But

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Speaker 1: the data doesn't even support that her hurricanes are occurring

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Speaker 1: more frequently because of climate change.

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Speaker 2: The the climate change catastrophists are wrong always and about everything,

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Speaker 2: and then they just change. It's just it's just like

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Speaker 2: some you know, fraudulent, fake profit preacher going town to

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Speaker 2: town clin you know, taking the coins out of the

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Speaker 2: hands of old ladies by promising to heal them and

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Speaker 2: then just moving to the next town. It's a scam.

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Speaker 2: It's a scam, and that they would start with that

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Speaker 2: as the second question. I mean, how about you know

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Speaker 2: how are federal resources being allocated? How about you know

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Speaker 2: the response and whether there were preparations made and what

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Speaker 2: you no. Instead it turns into the it's always a

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Speaker 2: lecture about climate change with these lunatics. And honestly, I

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Speaker 2: feel the same way about people care about climate change

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Speaker 2: as I do about the mask folks now, which and

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Speaker 2: a half for a long time, which is it's not

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Speaker 2: like live and let live. You're annoying and you're wrong

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Speaker 2: and what you're doing needs to stop.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But you know, also, by the way, it's super polite claim, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we can't politics, we can't politicize any tragedy. Right, every

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Speaker 1: time there is any climate disaster, and climate disasters have

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Speaker 1: been occurring throughout the history of the United States and

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Speaker 1: long before the United States was here, and yet every

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Speaker 1: time there's a hurricane, or there is a tornado, or

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Speaker 1: there is some sort of flooding, they immediately cite. Now

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Speaker 1: it's within the opening paragraph buck of every New York

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Speaker 1: Times article I read that, oh, this is a function

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Speaker 1: of climate change. It really is unbelievable how often that

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Speaker 1: that's part of this is. And I know you'll know,

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Speaker 1: and there's so many issues.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get into some of the other stuff here too,

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Speaker 2: But Clay, we should talk about the January sixth because

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Speaker 2: that's what the left is hanging their hat on. Is

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Speaker 2: that's where Tim Wallas won the debate. It's like he

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Speaker 2: didn't and it didn't. But I don't think anybody cares

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Speaker 2: about January sixth anymore.

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Speaker 1: And this one, I'm gonna telling you what the talking

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Speaker 1: points Morning Joe was on this run. That's what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we could we could, we could address that in

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Speaker 1: a second.

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Speaker 2: I just think when when you see this and you

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Speaker 2: hear people say this part of it is, I would

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Speaker 2: want to ask those two moderators of them neither. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 2: they spend all their time in the makeup chair and

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Speaker 2: preparing to read the lines. They're basically actresses. Same thing

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Speaker 2: with David Weird brother. This isn't a sexist thing like

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Speaker 2: the newsreaders on these big networks. Can they do a

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Speaker 1: So they shall telepropters away, they would be completely unable

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Speaker 2: I believe that this is also such a difference in

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