1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number one and 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: twenty tay in the show, Dan and I are sharing 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: quick updates on my idaho elk hunt, our most recent 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: offseason scouting results, are plans for the early season and 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: our goals for two thousand sixteen. Okay, welcome to the 9 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by six Gear. Today, 10 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: we're just going to do an episode with me and 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: my trusty co host Dan. It's gonna be kind of 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: short and sweet, but we wanted to get an episode 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: in here before the hunting season really kicked off, at 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: least for me and Dan, where we can talk about 15 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of our final preparations before the season, our goals 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and hopes and dreams for the two thousand and sixteen 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: white Tail season. I don't know a bunch of crap 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: like that, Dan, So does that sound okay to you? 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: It sounds great. I need this. I need this. Good 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: me too. We we haven't well what we've done. Last 21 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: time we chatted was just after I killed by Montana 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Buck and that was I don't know, that was almost 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: two weeks. That was probably two weeks ago. Now, um 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: for the past. Like, I don't even know six podcasts 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: you've put out, I don't know if I've we've been 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: able to connect on many of those. I know there's 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: been a bunch of scheduling issues and stuff. So we 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: were on the Montana one together and then shoot, there's 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: one in between where we weren't there together. But I 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: don't know, A long story short, we we need to 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: catch up, right, We do need to catch up. And 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut you off right there, okay please, And 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: like you know, I consider you a really good friend, Mark, 34 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: but I get extremely jealous when I see you on 35 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: your Instagram and you're up on top of a mountain 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: where I was one year ago. But instead of being 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: on that mountain with you, I'm in a I'm in 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: a cubicle. I'm sorry, Dan, It's all right. I'm a 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: big boy. I can handle it. I know that feeling though, 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that's a shitty it's a crappy feeling. Usually you're the 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: one who goes PG thirteen damn. Oh, And I might 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: get there. I don't blame you. I uh, I gotta 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: tell you though, you know, you texted me like after 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: the first day of the hunt and said something like, 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: let me let me guess it's going bananas, like you 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: were pissed and your figures would be awesome, And that 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: first day it was kind of great. So I was like, oh, man, 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: Dan's gonna be pretty upset. But after that day, you haven't. 49 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: You didn't miss out. It was kind of more of 50 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: the same that you and me had last year, right. Unfortunately, 51 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: are we talking a lot of rain? We had three 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: days of rain Jesus, So it was not quite to 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: the level that you and me had, at least from 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: like a length like you know, with you and me, 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: it was the entire day for like three of those 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: days or four of those days. We had three days, 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: but on every one of those days we at least 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: got some portion of the day where it stopped. So 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: I think the first day was just that we got 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: drenched in the morning, but the afternoon was fine. The 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: second day we got wet morning. Well, we got both times, 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: but there's little breaks or at least we can get 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: out of the tent and we still hunted morning and 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: evening and then the third day was just the morning again. Um, 65 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: but you know how that is. It's just it's just tough. 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Everything is wet. Um. There were no tent failures on 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: this trip, so that was a plus. That's good. That's good. 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Although I gotta admit da And there was lots of 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: fun made at your expense. Okay, you guys talked it 70 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: behind my back all you want, I'm okay with it. 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: It was like like we went to bed and it 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: was raining and soone yelled, Hey, Mark, gonna have to 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: come to the tent with you. Oh goodies. Um. But yeah, 74 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, we we thought that we 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: might be able getting the elk this time, but maybe 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: we were too earlier. Maybe it was just hunting pressure, 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: but they just weren't bugling. Again. The elk that we 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: did end up finding, we're super super high and really 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: far back. They're kind of like we had last year. Um. 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: We you know, we did. My buddy Andy killed the 81 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: cow on the first day, which was awesome, and you 82 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: know after that, there was like four days later we 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: saw a cow and a calf way up on a mountain, 84 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: and then the next day or two days later we 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: ended up seeing a herd of like seven or eight cows, 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: and then a giant bowl. We did see one big 87 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: bowl um way above us on this mountain and we 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: just took off, I don't know how far, end up 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: being a couple of miles or something, and it was 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: all straight uphill um. We chased him and just never 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: catch up. And that was kind of the extent of 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: the elk hunting excitement. But we did see two really 93 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: big bears, which is kind of nice, and a bull 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: moose really yeah, And then on the drive home we 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: saw a wolf and a grizzly bear, like forty yards 96 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: off the road. Oh my god, that's that's awesome. You 97 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: know how excited I was driving through Wyoming and I 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, look an antelope. Hey look an antelope. 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Hey look, and you know, like and you're like, okay, Dan, 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: we get it. There's a thousand antelopes on this road. Okay. 101 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: So what I want to know is do you remember 102 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: that day? It was kind of missing out. The morning 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: was a really good, beautiful morning, and we climbed to 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: the top. You had some pictures taken there on your 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Instagram that I saw. Um. Then that day we saw 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: those all those elk basically the next mountain over. So 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: we went straight down and then we went straight and 108 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: went straight down to the bottom. We ran into two 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: moose and we went straight up to the top up 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: again to try to get on those the the elk 111 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: that we saw, were they in that area? So interestingly, 112 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: that whole area there to the west, they well, there 113 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: may have been elk in there, but we started we 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: started hunting there, like day two check. We decided to 115 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: scolpe that area out, and we did see a cow 116 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: and a calf up there, and on one point we 117 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: heard like two bugles in that direction. But two different 118 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: guys with a bunch of horses and like outfitting camps 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: came riding by a cent and they're gonna set up 120 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: camp over there. It's like these are then they weren't together, 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: so there's two separate camps coming in over there. So 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: we decided to bail on that side and we moved 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: all the way east. So we spent most of the 124 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: rest of our time over to the east. And I 125 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: gotta tell you this, Dan, you might not believe it, 126 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: because we we we felt like we worked pretty hard, 127 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, when you and we were there, But we 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: probably did like three times or more the amount of 129 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: hiking and going up mountains. This time, it was like 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: last year's trip was the most brutal from like just 131 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: dealing with the elements and like that kind of challenge. 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: This year was definitely my most physically challenging hunt. I mean, 133 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: we just I think, you know, it was partly because 134 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: of where the elk were, and then it was partly 135 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: because I think, you know, last year, because it was 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: so wet NonStop, it was just tough to hike. This time, 137 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: we had enough gaps in the rain that the ground 138 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: wasn't all Greece so we could hike. So we just 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: hiked and hiked and hiked and hike and went higher 140 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and higher and higher. And I think also because last year, 141 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: because of the challenges we had finding elk, I kind 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: of wanted to keep pushing farther and higher to try 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: to eventually find him. And we tried. Um, we never 144 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: really did get into too many of them, but I 145 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of have an area of where I think they are. 146 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: It's just like freaking seven eight miles off the road 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: in the deepest, nastiest hell hole you ever you ever 148 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: could find, and it's uh man, I don't know. We 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: when we're up there, we're like, okay, this is great, 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: but if we shoot a bullet's gonna take us like 151 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: three days to get out of here and we might die, 152 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: so right, And that's that's what's so crazy about. You know, 153 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: you look at some of these guys who you know 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: are using outfitters or you know they're on um, you know, 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: private property. For these elk hunts and those guys, you 156 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: really have to have respect for those d i y 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: guys who go in deep and basically just bust their 158 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: ass on public ground and always come out with a 159 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: bull and it's it's never easy and it's always hard 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: for me. I have a lot of respect for those 161 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: guys because my one year of experience with elk hunting 162 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: and the amount that we had to walk. And then 163 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: now you say, because you had better conditions, you saw 164 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: elk and you had to walk twice three times as 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: much as we did. Oh shit, I mean those guys 166 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: are doing it every year. Yeah, the guys can get 167 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: it done on public land on their own. I mean, 168 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: that is it is the most with no horses, that's 169 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: one of the absolute most challenging things out there. It's 170 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: like in the world that I know, right, so right, 171 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: and the guys doing sheep hunts, you know, even higher 172 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: and further. Wow. Yeah, I dream of doing those sheep 173 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: hunts some day. But then I find myself like almost 174 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: killing myself on an elk hunt, and like, how in 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: the world can I handle sheep country? But now you know, 176 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: you know me and you Okay, so we've been on 177 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: an elk hunt together. Now do you remember that that 178 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: mule deer hunt that we wanted to go on before 179 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: we decided to go on the elk hunt, And how 180 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: brutal that that was gonna be. Oh my gosh. I 181 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: keep on thinking of that, and like we would have 182 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: it would have been so tough, right, I still want 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: to do that. We gotta whip ourselves in the shape. 184 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: Dan I know I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna be 185 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a badass by the time September comes 186 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: next year when I go, I bet you will. I'm 187 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: gonna tryst. But there's a lot to there's a lot 188 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: to do in between now and then two dan Um 189 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: that we get to cash in on hopefully here pretty soon. 190 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: So I want to know, I want to know what's 191 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: new with you in the white Tail world, because today, 192 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, I want to get caught up on like 193 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: our white tail stuff because we haven't got to do 194 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: as much. Um so I've got I've got some very 195 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: excited news that I have not shared anywhere yet. Okay, 196 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: I want you to tell it. But do you want 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: to share? Do you want me to go first? Do 198 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: you want to go first? It sounds like your your 199 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: stuff is more important and cooler than what my stuff is. Okay, 200 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: And I want to also do a little fort not 201 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: four play. I want to foreshadowing. Hey, Mark, I'm a 202 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: married man. Come on now, I almost said that I 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: want to foreshadow things a little bit. And I just 204 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: want you to be thinking about the fact that I 205 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: want you to level with us by the end of 206 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: the show on your final like goals and shoot or 207 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: not shoot decision because like earlier summer, you know, we 208 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit and you are all 209 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: in your head not sure what you want to do. 210 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: So I'll get at least want an update on that. 211 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: But before we dive into all that, we need to 212 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: pause briefly to think our partners at sick Gear for 213 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: the support of this podcast, and today we have another 214 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: sick story, and this one comes from Sick of Gear 215 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: employee Kelly Thornton, who came to hunting late in life 216 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: and recently she shared with us the experience of killing 217 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: her first dear. But that first experience, it, uh, it 218 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: was life changing for me, especially being a woman and 219 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: especially being older. Uh it was, but it was positive, 220 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, I, like so many of us, you know, 221 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: just you get the buck fever when you see it 222 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: and you shake and everything just goes to heck in 223 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: a handbasket. You know, nothing connects and it's just crazy. Um, 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: But I did. I took one shot. I ended up 225 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: shooting the deer. Was a gut shot, you know, probably 226 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: not the most pleasant, but it was real and I 227 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: had to learn, you know what that meant. And my husband, uh, 228 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: he taught me about field dressing, so I actually feel 229 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: dressed to my own dear. H. It was. It was 230 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: a neat experience and I had an appreciation for it, 231 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: and I was very thankful and blessed that God had 232 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: provided that animal for me to be able to provide 233 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: to our family. I felt very proud that I had 234 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: gone out, that I had I had taken an animal 235 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,479 Speaker 1: that needed to have been taken, and I did it ethically, 236 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: I you know, respected that animal completely. Um. And I 237 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: started what I finished, or I finished what I started. Um, 238 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, from the moment you placed the shot until 239 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, hiking out with that animal. And so I think, yeah, 240 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: for that, it was very it was very heartwarming. It 241 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: was very spiritual too. I think hunting is a lot 242 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: about you know, coming to terms with your spirit spirit spirituality, 243 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: and uh so, yeah, it was a very spiritual time 244 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: too for my husband and I. Well, I can certainly 245 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: relate to those kinds of feelings, and I bet many 246 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: of you can too. So this was a sick story. 247 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: And if you'd like to learn more about Sick of 248 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Gears technical hunting a Peril, you can visit sit to 249 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: gear dot com. And now let's get back to the show. 250 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: My interesting update. Right, all right, I don't know if 251 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: you probably remember, I don't know if you do, but 252 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: you might remember this buck I've been talking about that 253 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: I called holy Field. Do you remember that? Dear? Remember him? Okay, 254 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: so Michigan, this is the deer that um, excuse me, 255 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I've got the coffee burps over here. Um. Last year 256 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: I saw him many times, at least several times. I 257 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: got tons of tons of daily trail camera pictures of him. 258 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: I passed him in mid October. He was a really 259 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: nice three year old eight pointer last year. But since 260 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: I already killed that buck on opening night here in Michigan, 261 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I said, this is a deer I really want to 262 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: get to next year because he'll be awesome Michigan buck 263 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: for So the last time I got pictures of him, 264 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: her saw him was Christmas Day last year. Now, as 265 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked a couple of times about this 266 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: year about how excited I was hoping he'd come back. 267 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: But you know, last year, he didn't show up in 268 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: my farm until September. So I've been biding my time 269 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: checking cameras. He had not shown up over the summer, 270 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: so I was just hoping, well, one September hits, hopefully 271 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: he'll be here. Well, I got back from my western 272 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: trip and two nights ago, I think it was, I 273 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: was doing some long range scouting and I look out 274 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: in this field. Well, i've got this food plot, you know, 275 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: the disaster food plot that I had this summer that 276 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: got all grown up. Well, I managed to get that 277 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: half of that planet. But right next to that is 278 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: this thick bedding cover. And who do I see pop 279 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: out of that thick bedding cover and stand there but 280 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Holy Field himself back for another year. Awesome. So before 281 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: you go any further, describe what he looks like to 282 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: the listeners. Yeah, so if you live in Iowa or 283 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Kansas or Illinois, you won't be that impressed. But if 284 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: you're like me and live in Michigan or Pennsylvania or 285 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: somewhere like that, you would be. He's he's an awesome 286 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: dear for me. He is a four year old Michigan buck, 287 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: which is really pretty hitless buck for sure, for just 288 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: about anyone the state. Um, he's a shooter for pretty 289 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: much any of the state, almost guaranteed. He's still an 290 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: eight pointer, but he's just a big, heavy eight pointer. 291 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: He might be maybe one five, maybe up to one thirty, 292 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, somewhere around there. That's an awesome eight 293 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: point in my book, and a big body on him 294 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: looks like and just like a perfect clean, wide and 295 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: tall eight point rack and just a super cool dear. 296 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: So I'm pumped about that. And I'm especially excited because 297 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: you know here in these Michigan properties, it's tough to 298 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: get a buck through for multiple years. Like there's so 299 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: many deer that I see his three year olds, I'm like, oh, 300 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, or even two year olds. Man, if he 301 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: gets to next year, be so cool to have a 302 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: buck for another year. Um. But it just does not 303 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: happen that much. You know. I had six Shooter a 304 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: few years ago that stuck around for a few years. 305 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I had another buck called Leaner that made it a 306 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: few years. But other than that, like every time I 307 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: have a nice buck, he's dead before the next year. 308 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: So this is now, this next opportunity I've had, like 309 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: the last five six years here in Michigan to finally 310 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: be after a buck for multiple years. And I think 311 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: this deer is really killable. Um he where Donna say something? Yeah, 312 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: So remind us how much how many acres you're dealing with? 313 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: How many acres do you have control of? So this 314 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: is a nine d acre property, of which fort is 315 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: open crap field, and then forty five is like a 316 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: square of timbery swamp and then kind of kind of 317 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: think like a hockey stick. This property looks like a 318 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: hockey stick. Um. So the long arm of the hockey 319 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: stick is a little finger of timber, and then on 320 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: the end of that is a food plot and a 321 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: bunch of tall grassy brushy bedding cover and stuff. And 322 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: then on the fat part, like the bottom of the 323 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: hockey stick, that's kind of it's bigger than a hockey stick, 324 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: but that becomes a big, fat, kind of rectangle of swamp. 325 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: And then on the inside corner of that hockey stick, 326 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: and then the whole outside the other side of it, 327 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: that's all these big fields. So and then surrounding it 328 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: is a bunch of properties that all get hunted by 329 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of different people. Um. Neighbors on one side 330 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: shoot it's like anything. I talked to them once and 331 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: thought they were going to get on board with not 332 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: shooting anything under two two years old at least, but 333 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're doing that anymore. Um. I've 334 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: got one neighbor that I stay in touch with, a 335 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: really nice guy, and he usually doesn't shoot young deer um. 336 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's kind of open, open game 337 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: on anything. And there's also public land um adjacent to 338 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: it as well that just gets shot up like crazy. Um. 339 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: So just it's a it's a good spot and then 340 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: it's also a tough spot in certain ways. So so 341 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: you're having a four year old buck gets me really 342 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: excited here and um, so here's this, here's the story 343 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: and him and I don't know how interested you are 344 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: in the stand, but hopefully this is interesting. I'm interested. 345 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm interested. So okay, so holy Field. Last year, do 346 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: you remember the just before the opening of last year 347 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: I had this time I came with the podcast I 348 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: told you about how this night I was scouting the 349 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: same area and I saw like three shooters come into 350 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: this one food plot like three days before opening day, 351 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: and like I analyzed, is that situation and one of 352 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: those bucks was the buck we called turd ferguson um. 353 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: And then three days later I shot him in that 354 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: same field. Well, one of the other bucks in that 355 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: field was this buck holy Field. Um. So he's doing 356 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: very similar to the same things he did last year, 357 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: at least based on this one encounter. But last year 358 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: I saw him bedded in the same little spot right 359 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: in between the road and this food plot. It's just 360 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: like tall brushy grass and a few brushy trees. But 361 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen bucks about out there before. 362 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: But he seems to take an hanker into it because 363 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: I saw him come out of there several different times 364 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: last year, and now here he was again this year. Um. 365 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: And he feeds in this front food plot a lot, 366 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: at least he did last year. I got I think 367 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: eight or nine different daylight trail cara pictures of him 368 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: out there, and many other after dark pictures. And then 369 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: I watched him personally three different times out there in person. Um. So, 370 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: of all the bucks I think I've ever had on 371 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: this farm Michigan, I think he's probably the most daylight active. Um. 372 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: So that's a really good thing. And he's in a 373 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: very hontable spot. Now, this isn't the buck that you 374 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: shot low one last year, right, correct? This is not okay? 375 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: This is um that buck? He didn't that buck I 376 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: think is dead because he disappeared off my cameras at 377 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the end of October. This deer did not show up 378 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: the night that I shot turn um. But he showed 379 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: up like two weeks later one night I was hunting 380 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: that same stand and walked underneath me and I watched 381 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: him bump, does around and stuff. Um. And then and 382 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: then from there it was just you know, a few 383 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: late season encounters. I watched him from a long distance 384 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times, lots of pictures. Um. But did 385 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: I tell you about the trail camera analysis I did 386 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of him this summer? Did we talk about that? Uh? 387 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Was it when you were using the dear Lab? Yes? 388 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: I think I think maybe I think I talked about 389 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: that in one of the podcast ads for deer Lab, 390 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure we actually talked about it in person, 391 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: do we? I don't think, I don't. I don't think. 392 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: To me, you mentioned that you you were entering those 393 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: pictures in and you noticed, you know, you were doing 394 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: analysis on his movement. Yeah. Yeah, So so long story 395 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: short in that, right, You know, I upload all the 396 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: pictures I have of of him onto deer Lab, which is, uh, 397 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, an online tool that allows you to upload 398 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: your traildcare and pictures and it does a number of 399 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: different analyzes from that. UM, and started using it. It's 400 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: a it's a neat tool. It's awesome. Yeah, I think, Um, 401 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, deer Lab is a great option. There's several others, 402 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: I think, any you know, anyway you're going about trying 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: to get more details out of the data, you know, 404 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: it's one thing to just get a picture and say, oh, 405 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: cool buck. But I think once you start asking why 406 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: and looking at all the other factors that line up 407 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: with these sightings or pictures, that's when you really started 408 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: covering things. And deer lab is a really great tool 409 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: do that. Um, so I'm interested to hear how things 410 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe you found out by using that too. But um, 411 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: long story short, I threw all these pictures in there, 412 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and I started looking at the data that it started 413 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of aggregating for me, And like the big eye 414 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: opener for me was that he was almost exclusively showing 415 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: up on this food plot during daylight when there was 416 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: south or southwest winds And I never hunt that spot 417 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: with south or southwest winds because it blows right into 418 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: this betting area. So I was like, wow, if that's 419 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: the only time I could get a shot at him 420 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: during daylight, well I'm never going to be there on 421 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: those days. So what I did is it opens your 422 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: eyes to a lot of things, really makes you think about. 423 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: And then it also it's like, well, no, wonder that's 424 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: why he doesn't come out. He knows that he's got 425 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: the wind in his favor, and so that's when he 426 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: comes out during daylight. Um, and I think he's got 427 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: two spots. He's better because I saw him, you know, 428 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: two or three nights ago with a northwest wind, but 429 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: he was better in this other location. So I think 430 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: when he's got a north or northwest wind, he beds 431 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: on this spot, like right next to the food plot, 432 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: between the road and the food plot. And if ever, 433 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: every time I traditionally would go to the stand, I 434 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: would walk right past this little area. So he probably 435 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: sits in there and watches the a TV trail that 436 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: I walk in on, sees me when I go walking 437 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: in and never comes out. I was betting are until 438 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: after dark? Yeah, Or he beds with a south southwest 439 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: wind on the neighbor's property in this brushy area, and 440 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: those are the days that I've never hunted there, and 441 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: so that he comes in and I'm not there. So 442 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: I did two things. Number One, if I've got a 443 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: north northwest wind, I might still try to hunt it. 444 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to do some long range scouting before 445 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: the season and see if he does come out maybe 446 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: now this year with that wind, but beds in the 447 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: front area. If he does, then what I'll do is 448 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: I'll take a really long circular route to get out 449 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: and around um past that bedding year and then in 450 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: the stand, and then if not, I'll focus on just 451 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: the south southwest winds. And what I did. I put 452 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: in a ground blind brushed into this like screen of 453 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: sorghum and Egyptian wit that I planned around this food 454 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: plot that allows me to actually walk a creek to 455 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: the back side of this brushy strip, pop out of 456 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: the creek right into the back of this ground blend 457 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: I rushed in there that's now on the it's on 458 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: the north side of this food plot, so that south 459 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: wind would blow it out over this what will be 460 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: a cut bean field and there won't be anything very 461 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: often out there um, so it's gonna be a good setup. 462 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: I put one of those scrape trees out in the 463 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: food plot that's exactly thirty yards between the tree stand 464 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: that i'd use on a north wind or the ground 465 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: blend that I used in the south wind. Um. And 466 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if if conditions are right on opening 467 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: night or the second night of the season or something, 468 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: I think it could be a really good chance. Man. 469 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm pulling for you. Thank you. I'm pumped. I don't know, 470 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: I get aroused with the chess match just as much 471 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: as you know we're going into a random set and 472 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: seeing a random deer. It's like I just beat your ass, 473 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That is that to me 474 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: is awesome. O. The chess matches everything for me. That's 475 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: that's what. Just absolutely love it. This is my favorite 476 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: part of deer hunting, is like putting all the strategy 477 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: pieces together, or sitting here and talking to you about it, 478 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: or having coffee with a friend and looking at maps 479 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: and saying, well, what do you think about this versus 480 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: that versus this? Um or you know. I was talking 481 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: to Tony Peterson a little bit earlier today, remember him. 482 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: He was on our podcast a while ago talking about 483 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: public land stuff, um, and we were talking about my 484 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Montana hunt and just like how much fun it is 485 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: to go into a completely new area like that, and 486 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: just like you're starting from ground zero and you get 487 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: peace number A on night number one, and the night 488 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: number two you get another piece, and then next day 489 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: and you slowly put pieces together and adjust and make 490 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: a move and a move and a move, and then um, 491 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you get lucky and you get checkmate 492 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: and it's pretty awesome. It's like, yeah, it's like chess 493 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: like war, you know, it's uh it is. It is awesome. 494 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I'm super stoked for the Michigan season 495 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: open here in two weeks, and the Ohio season opens 496 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. And I don't know, man, it's that time 497 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: of year. But I want to talk about your stuff 498 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: before we run out of time, because we're gonna do 499 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: a little shorter episode today, like you know, um, so 500 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we talk about what's going 501 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: on with your left too, Dan, what's doing the white 502 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: tail from oh Man? Uh? Well about my main farm 503 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: down south? So real quick, um put in. You know, 504 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: I started using Deer Lab right, so they have this 505 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: feature where, uh, you got the heat map right for 506 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: the profiles of the different deer and then you can 507 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: like break that down. Well, so my buddy, my buddy 508 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: me and Ryan, you know, I don't know, it's like 509 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: two fourteen when um I gave up my season to 510 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: film the guy who filmed me for like five years, 511 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: my buddy Ryan, right, and he we were chasing that 512 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: giant called No Show Jones, and he had an encounter 513 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: with him and he ended up missing the ended up 514 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: missing the buck, you know, hit his auntler and didn't 515 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: get didn't get an opportunity to kill him, but a deer. Yeah, 516 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: So we're going into this one area and we're looking 517 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: at show camera pictures and we're just like boom southeast wind, 518 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: south wind, southwest wind, southeast wind, bingo southeast wind. So 519 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: this one day we go in there, southeast wind. There 520 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: he is, big buck and the deer are cruising this 521 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: marsh all day long. So so now I know that, right, 522 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: So I start entering in all these pictures into deer 523 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: lab and I'm I'm seeing this this movement along this 524 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: fence line, uh in this marsh for throughout different periods 525 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: of the day, and I'm noticing a trend, right, I'm 526 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: noticing that on south wind southeast winds they're coming up 527 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: this draw where the southeast wind is blowing right up 528 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: this draw. And I and that's when I realized that, Okay, 529 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: if I'm just a little bit east of that and 530 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: my wind is blowing parallel to that draw but not 531 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: going down into it, all these deer are going to 532 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: funnel through there, and that they did exactly that, And 533 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: so now I have tree stands closer to this area 534 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: where I'm where this main this main finger timber is 535 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: button up against this draw, and I cannot wait to 536 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: hunt it on the first north northeast wind. Now, what's 537 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: your game plan? Are you gonna hunt that what time 538 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: of season first time you get that wind? Or are 539 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: you waiting? Nope, I'm gonna wait until um because the 540 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: other cool thing about deer lab is that it gives 541 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: you you know it. It has all the dates there 542 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: for you as well. So I'm guessing somewhere all the 543 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: daylight pictures for this particular fence crossing happened about oh 544 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: the through October. That's when they start getting morning daylight pictures. 545 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: So the first time I get a south southeast wind 546 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: on October, I'm going to be in that stand nice 547 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: I want to I want to make a public service 548 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: announcement right here that both what you and I have 549 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: just done here is we've taken gonna look at past 550 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: year's trail camera pictures, annual patterns, and looking at those 551 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: annual patterns and applying them to our plan for this year. 552 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's one I think for both of us. 553 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like this has been one of the big 554 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: lessons we've been learning over the recent years, learning from 555 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: some of these other guys we talked to. UM. So 556 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: if you're listening right now and you're not thinking about 557 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, if your season had start yet, 558 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: this is that time. Go back, look at those old pictures. 559 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Try to see some of these trends. Whether you just 560 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: look at the pictures yourself, or put them into a 561 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: tool like we've been doing UM, or map it out 562 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: an Excel doc or something, look for those trends and 563 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: figure out you know, because these dear do things for 564 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: a reason, and many times that happens year after year. UM. 565 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Not always, it's not a rule, but UM, I think 566 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: the more I look at it and pay attention to 567 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: it and study it, the more I see these same 568 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: similar types of patterns emerge. So so yeah, man, I 569 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: think I think you're onto something there. Uh And and 570 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that's the same same thing with another piece of the property. 571 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: I got, so long story short, I got my trail 572 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: cameras kind of half of them situated to pinch points, 573 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: finch crossings, more of a travel corridor where I'm gonna 574 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: pick up not necessarily a ton of pictures, but the 575 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: most important pictures So when a shooter is moving through 576 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: this area at what time of year, that's the most important. 577 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Not when it's over a mineral site, not when it's 578 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: over like a bait pile, because that really doesn't help 579 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: me because I can't hunt over those anyway, right, So, 580 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: so that that information doesn't doesn't mean anything to me. 581 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: It's the finch crossings, it's the pinch points. It's getting 582 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: them anywhere from October one to um right before a 583 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: shotgun season, that period of time and those trail camera 584 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: pictures are the most important pieces of data for me now. 585 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: So I've I've made the transition from mineral stations to 586 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: to those pinch points, fence crossings, travel corridors, blah blah 587 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: blah um. Another thing that I did was so last 588 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: at the beginning of last year, late last summer, I 589 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: had access to I gained access to a new farm, 590 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: um and I didn't put any trail camera pictures on 591 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: it because it was late, So I just went out 592 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: and hunted him. So I kind of for and this 593 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: was a piece of property that was closer to where 594 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: I live, like ten fifty minute drive now my buddies farm. 595 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: I told you two shooters, right, to him to deer 596 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: that were close to booner. I ended up missing. I 597 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: ended up missing one. We have to have. I need 598 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: a name for that one. His name is the Bam Bam. Well, okay, 599 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: I meant the farm, but the booner is the Bam Bam, 600 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: the booner that I missed. His name's Bam Bam and 601 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: that was the name give him to him by the 602 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: landowner because he runs trail cameras too. He doesn't hunt, 603 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: He just likes run trail cameras. Right, So I'm up 604 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: there one day, right, he comes through, he comes up 605 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: this draw. I called my buddy, and he's in the 606 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: house and he looks out his window. He sees him, 607 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: and then I said, I'm While I'm on the phone 608 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: with him, I say, clap your hands. So he claps 609 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: his hands. Did you look up? They don't run because 610 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: they're used to people up there, so they slowly start 611 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: making their way back down. He's following the dough and 612 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm and I draw back. Long story short, miss him high. Well. 613 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: I continue to get pictures of him until about the 614 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: shotgun season, and then I lose him. Right, no more 615 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: pictures of this buck at all after that then two 616 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: or earlier this week, I go out sometime last week 617 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: or if I don't even know, I can't even keep 618 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: track of my own asks. I feel like I'm about 619 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: to hear some great news right now. Right, guess who 620 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: shows up on trail camera one, like one mile northwest 621 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: up the same Crieck system on this farm that I 622 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: have access to. Bam bam, bam bam on the different farm, 623 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: the other farm. But it's the same Crieck system, right, 624 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: It's crazy. So these deer are running there, running this 625 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: the same aim exact cricks creeck system, right, and it's 626 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of all downhill. It's a giant pinch point right now, 627 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: it's all it's all you know, it's all downhill. They 628 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: run this, this Crieck system. My buddy's property is like 629 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: the mecca of pinch points, right right down at the 630 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: bottom of where he lives. Now, this other property where 631 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: I got pictures of him, I also pulled out one, two, 632 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: three other shooters and and and that's shooters based off 633 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: age class right, So so bam bam, I got a 634 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: couple of pictures of him, so I know he's alive. 635 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: So I know that mid to late October, I'm not 636 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: going to touch my buddy's property and probably until mid 637 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: to late October. Guess what. Guess who has a food 638 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: plot at my buddies property. This guy. So now after 639 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: the first frost and as the deer start maybe hitting 640 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: that property, I'm gonna run trail cameras until i see 641 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: any type of buck activity on that property. Meanwhile, I'm 642 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: going to be hunting and putting pressure on the property 643 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: to the north of there. So if I do push 644 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: the deer somewhere that there, it's gonna push him south 645 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: down that drainage into my buddy's property. That's nice to 646 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: have those two spots like that where you can, you know, 647 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: you can be in his wheelhouse maybe on property number 648 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: one without being too word because you know, worst case scenario, 649 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: if you happen to bump some deer, they very well 650 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: might move down towards your honey hole. Right, And that's 651 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: the thing, like I'm gonna do early season hunting in 652 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: observation stands over top of this being over top of 653 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: this bean field, and to be I'm gonna be honest 654 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: with you, I might go in there on wrong winds 655 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: just just to bump him south because if I if 656 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I know, if I know that he is in this 657 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: area early October, guess where I know he's gonna be 658 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: in mid October till late October, early November. He's gonna 659 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: be running around, running that same pinch point between all 660 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: these properties on my buddies, on my buddies farm. So pushing, 661 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, putting pressure in one specific area and maybe observing, observing. 662 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Oh hey, I saw him at three yards. Okay, um, 663 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna move in to try to kill him. Okay, 664 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: I didn't kill him, I spooked him. Guess where he's going, 665 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: hopefully right down there to where you'll be. Yep, that's 666 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: that's that's my that's that's a really aggressive tactic. Um. 667 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: So the good thing is is I have shooters up north, 668 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: and I have shooters down on my main farm. Although 669 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: I would like to kill, you know, if if I 670 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: had my choice, I would want to kill a buck 671 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: that I had some kind of history with, like Tupac, 672 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: that that big ten I have that's running around. But 673 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: a shooter is a shooter is a shooter, you know 674 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's the question that we have 675 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: that I want to get to hear. So you've got 676 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: you've got Bam Bam, You've got Tupac who you have 677 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: like forever years of history with. You've got Gordon Bombay 678 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,959 Speaker 1: back this year, right. Uh? And god knows how many 679 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: other great bucks on trail cameras. I can't even keep 680 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 1: straight in my head. All these great bucks are out there, Dan, 681 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: But you haven't got an arrow in one for a 682 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: number of years. And you've talked about how you're feeling 683 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: some pressure. So the season opens up in ten days. 684 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: What's your decision right now? Where are you at on 685 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: the shooter not shoot decisions scale for two thousand and 686 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: sixteen four year old Again, it's a four year old. 687 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a four year old. Um. I 688 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: got one like seven different seven eight different deer that 689 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I have put on a hit list that are at 690 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: the age class of four year old or older, and 691 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: I will pull the bow back on the first four 692 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: year old that walks in front of me. I think 693 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: that sounds like a good plan. Yeah, and Act says 694 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm taking risks this year. I'm walking creect systems, I'm 695 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: buying hip waiters, I'm I'm knocking on different doors to 696 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: try to gain access through. You know, hey, can I 697 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: can I just park my car here, my truck here 698 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: so I can walk the correct into the place that 699 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: I hunt, you know, if I have to get wet, 700 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: if you know, I'm to the point now where I 701 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: figured this farm out enough to where I know that 702 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: I'm I'm fffing things up driving through the farm on 703 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: a morning hunt, I'm pushing everything away from me driving 704 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: my truck back there. To get down there, I have 705 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: to come in through an opposite direction. So then I'm 706 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: relying on the other hunters doing what I'm doing. But 707 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm in between where they're coming in from 708 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: and where they need to go. So you're just waiting 709 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: an ambush, right if like, hopefully that works right? Knock 710 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: on what you know? You can only ever figure so 711 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: much and then you have to kind of leave it 712 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: into fate's hands and hope it all works out that 713 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: way we wanted to. But man, sounds like plans are 714 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: coming together. Well, I don't want to. I'm not gonna 715 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: say it, Dan, Well, I'm not. Well, I don't say 716 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: it because last year you said this is your year, 717 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: and you know you can be you can part of 718 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: being a good hunter is sealing the deal when the 719 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: opportunity meets the hard work, right. So when the you know, 720 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: that is the part that I have to finish. I 721 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: have to put the period at the end of the 722 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: sense I can get in position. And I've been doing 723 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: that for a number of years. But it's you know, 724 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: bad shots. Tupac should have been dead in two thousand 725 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: and thirteen as a four year old. Right now he's 726 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: uh whatever, he's a years old or something. So you know, 727 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: if I can get him now, that would be awesome, 728 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: good story. If I can get any four year old, 729 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I don't care. If it's a 730 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: hund four year old, it's getting an arrow at it. 731 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: If it's inside you know my shooting range, well, I 732 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: won't say it's your year. I'm just gonna say you're 733 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: do and you deserve it. And I got my fingers 734 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: crossed for you. Hey, take that back. Nobody here's and 735 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: here's my opinion. Nobody deserves anything. You have to work 736 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: for it. Nobody deserves You know, there's guys out there 737 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: who have hunted hard, just like me, out in public, ground, 738 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: out in you know, that are doing the same thing 739 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: that me and you are doing, and they've struck out 740 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: several years and they're getting frustrated and and there one 741 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: you know they're going to do. It's your year, You're 742 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: do You know you deserve it, You don't deserve it. 743 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta work. This is like we said, 744 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: this is a chess match, man, this is this is 745 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to take an animal's life, and that life, 746 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: that animal knows it, and he is trying to avoid you, 747 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: and you have to beat him at his own game. Sorry, 748 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: that's me. That's me like getting fired up. I won't 749 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: argue with you on that. Sorry, I got really fired 750 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: up there. All I will say is that I believe 751 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: in you. That's all I'll say that. I believe in you. 752 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: You put in the work, and I'm excited to see 753 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: how these coming weeks come, come out, steps out for you. 754 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm stoked about that. That's ten days away 755 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: and four days from now, I go down to Ohio 756 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: for opening weekend. And I don't have his high hopes 757 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: for that. It's gonna be like high eighties, super hot. 758 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go down there for two quick days. 759 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: Check cameras observation stands in the evening and um, and 760 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: then we probably won't go back till like late October 761 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: or November. We're gonna leave it alone. So this is 762 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: just like kind of intel visit really fast and quick 763 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and then um, you know, like every year, I'll kind 764 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: of watch the weather and see if something really gives 765 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: me a reason to go down there. But this season 766 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: is upon us. Man, um, all right, real quick before 767 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: we go. It sounds like, for you a successful season, 768 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, I know we always talked about the success 769 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: is different than killing a deer, etcetera, etcetera. But let's 770 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: just focus on actually killing part of hunting. Sounds like, 771 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 1: for you, kill a four year old buck and you 772 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: are happy camper. Yeah. Amen, Alright, My goal for the 773 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: season is to kill holy Field in Michigan and then 774 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: a four year four year old in Ohio. If I 775 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: can do one of those two things, I'd love to 776 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: do both. But if either one of those come together, 777 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: that's that's a super exciting, awesome season as far as 778 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. On top of the fact that I was 779 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: able to pull off my goal in Montana, so what 780 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: real quick, real quick, and I know we gotta go. 781 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: I'll make this fast So my wife had a conversation 782 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: with me the other day, and in this conversation, she 783 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: expressed interest in me killing more does so we could 784 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: have more meat to take to the processor for deer 785 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: sticks and dear jerky that she likes. Heck, so now 786 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: with her wanting these things, she's it's like, yeah, I 787 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: don't care go out and hunt. I just want you to, 788 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, take a deer of the processor 789 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: and make some jerky because I really like it. So 790 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: my wife is now a little bit like in tune 791 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: with what I'm trying to get at, and that's the 792 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: first for me. I'm really excited about it. So, like 793 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: the first two three weeks of October, I have three 794 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: dough tags in two different counties, and I am going 795 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: to kill my goals to try to kill three does. 796 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: And I don't give a shit if I have one 797 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: pounds of deer sticks in my freezer. I'm gonna I'm 798 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: getting deer sticks from my wife this year. That's awesome, dude, 799 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: I love it. But I want to tell you one thing. 800 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: You've got to stretch those dough tags over the whole 801 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: season so that even in the middle of November you 802 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: can be telling her, well, honey, I have to hunt 803 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: all day for the next ten days because I get 804 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: to get those deer sticks for you. So states She 805 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: also says to me, so you know, I told her 806 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: I got three dough tags, and she says, yeah, so 807 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: you can, you know, so you can get some beer 808 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: sticks this year. I'm like yeah, And she's like, I 809 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: also want you to kill a big buck this year, 810 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: and and I didn't even know what to say. I 811 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: was just like, yes, yes, yes, I will. Did a tear? 812 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: Did a tear come running out of your eye at 813 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: that point? No, because I know that about four days 814 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: into the November rut, she's gonna be want my ass back. 815 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: Hold We'll enjoy the dream now, I guess right? Right? Amen? 816 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: Alright dude, Well, with that, we're gonna to shut this 817 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: one down a little bit early, but thank you all 818 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: for joining us. Stay for these quick updates, and stay 819 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: tuned for a lot more in the coming days and weeks. 820 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: We've got some great episodes lined up for you, both 821 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: on this podcast and Wild Podcast, and I'm also publishing 822 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: new journal entries on the blog after every hunt, so 823 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: be sure to check those out. And we'll have video 824 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: of my Montana Hunt up on YouTube here shortly too, 825 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: so be sure to keep your eyes appeeled for for 826 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: all sorts of interesting stuff on those lines. And finally, 827 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: we need to thank our partners who helped make this 828 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: podcast possible, So thank you too, sit A, gear, Redneck, 829 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: Blinds Hunter, a Maps, Yetti, Ozonics, Carbon Express, may Even Optics, 830 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: and the White Tail Institute of North America. And with 831 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: all that said, thank you all for joining us today. 832 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: Good luck with your upcoming hunts, and stay wired to Hunt.