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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to another
Speaker 1: week of Talking Cowboys. After a holiday weekend, and after
Speaker 1: a Cowboys victory over the Redskins on Thursday, this is
Speaker 1: a victory Monday. That's actually a victory Thursday around here, right,
Speaker 1: it's actually Thursday at you got your days straight exactly
Speaker 1: exactly right, because the New Orleans Saints are fast approaching
Speaker 1: on this Thursday. To follow up Bill Jones's Rob Phillips, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: how was your weekend? Everybody? Have we not done this
Speaker 1: for a week. It's been a while, hadn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Whence the last time we did our show, y'all did
Speaker 1: one Wednesday that I wasn't a part of, right faith,
Speaker 1: that was the last one. So it's been a week
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, yeahs I do miss you know, it's
Speaker 1: longer because you missed because Beltrey, I try. It's been
Speaker 1: a full week. It has because I maybe Beltrey retired
Speaker 1: sports stuff is get involved with our talk here. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So but how about them Cowboys? Yeah, nice victory,
Speaker 1: really nice victory, you know, and it sets you up
Speaker 1: for this week. You know, you just this is one
Speaker 1: of those things. It's you have to find a way now.
Speaker 1: You know, we're at the point of the season where
Speaker 1: you know, you just have to find ways to win
Speaker 1: these games. It's a banged up football team. You're playing
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: You know, they're a complete team. That's just not a
Speaker 1: that's not a one trick pony, as they say. They've
Speaker 1: got a pretty good defense too to go along with
Speaker 1: their offense, so present a lot of different challenges. So
Speaker 1: that's it's time of year for that. There's no time
Speaker 1: to patch yourself on the back, is there. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's not a ten day break after Thanksgiving. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, you're about to face a team that's
Speaker 1: won ten straight football showing up this week. No, yah, neither,
Speaker 1: it's Texas Tech right, Nope, they struggled down the stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're staying topical. I guess. Yeah, they made a coaching
Speaker 1: change up in Lubbock. There's uh yeah, there's ways to
Speaker 1: win these games, and you just got to figure it
Speaker 1: out and and see, you know this is a good
Speaker 1: credential check right now. Well, and then you sort things
Speaker 1: out after Thanksgiving weekend in the in the NFC East,
Speaker 1: you got the Cowboys and the Redskins at six and five,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles come from a nineteen to three whole
Speaker 1: yesterday to beat the Giants and they're sitting there at
Speaker 1: five and six. I mean I saw that score in
Speaker 1: nineteen to three and I in the first half yesterday. Well,
Speaker 1: well the Eagles have given up on their season and
Speaker 1: they came back and win. And then you look at
Speaker 1: the standings and they're a game out of first place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, come in here, yeah next week exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they've got a Monday night tilt. I beleeve with
Speaker 1: the Redskins before that, so we'll see how that all plays.
Speaker 1: But they start bunching up in the NFC, by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, you look at the wild card Seattle Carolina.
Speaker 1: Both teams you've lost two are both six and five.
Speaker 1: You've got four teams six and five, one six, four
Speaker 1: and one and one five and six. That game last
Speaker 1: night was huge, obviously for wildcard purposes. And I think
Speaker 1: they said on NBC they had some kind of math
Speaker 1: that said if the Packers losing, they've got a two
Speaker 1: percent chance to get in now, and Minnesota's got like
Speaker 1: a seventy three percent chance. I stand that stuff. Who
Speaker 1: figures this out? Well? And then of course in the
Speaker 1: game you get stats that say, well, now the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a seventy three percent chance of winning this game.
Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought that college station the other
Speaker 1: night too. I mean me too, me too. Three weeks
Speaker 1: ago or three games ago, the Cowboys had like an
Speaker 1: eight percent chance of making the playoffs. Now it's sixty
Speaker 1: four percent of all analytics? What what? What? What? What
Speaker 1: are god? Y'all sound like you're from the dark ages?
Speaker 1: Why would you believe it? But did you believe the
Speaker 1: eight percent? It's based on math. Yeah, it's based on
Speaker 1: the other teams that have done it before. Well then
Speaker 1: these aren't other teams, though, this is this is different? Right, Hiking?
Speaker 1: How being wrong? Hik Harrison? How is your way? It
Speaker 1: was wonderful? How ya Okay was trying to in a
Speaker 1: way make his point that was a big game, big swing.
Speaker 1: Now you've got some teams fighting to get in the
Speaker 1: Cowboys again, I think they're still in the same boat
Speaker 1: they've been in. They need to win their division. Just
Speaker 1: take care of business. Here, into your home and get
Speaker 1: your home game, and don't worry about because Carolina is
Speaker 1: Caroline has lost three straight now, but they still have
Speaker 1: a win over you. I mean think Seattle has a
Speaker 1: win over you, so so still take care of business.
Speaker 1: Speaking of these analytics, what was the Aggie's chance of
Speaker 1: winning that game against LSU went on the fourth and
Speaker 1: eighteen past play the yard shore of the first down.
Speaker 1: It's just I think, yeah, you just gave him an opening.
Speaker 1: You know I had that one ready. Sorry, Brian, Sorry,
Speaker 1: Texas Satan played well in the overtime period they played.
Speaker 1: They played much better than LSU. Did they really? Did
Speaker 1: you know that one played better? That was one two
Speaker 1: point conversion better? One played better one one? What were
Speaker 1: you waving your golden purple flag for one on here?
Speaker 1: I just liked things to be honest, okay and act. Okay,
Speaker 1: there was no got it, there was no accuracy in
Speaker 1: that game. Okay. It was a great game, and I graduate,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I was gonna wear my white hat today.
Speaker 1: That was that was a great game, But if it
Speaker 1: was a Big twelve game, it was, how come these
Speaker 1: teams can't play any defense? That's right, That's true, true, true.
Speaker 1: There was no defense involved there at the very end,
Speaker 1: for sure. But now speaking of defense, you better be
Speaker 1: you bet to play defense this week against the team
Speaker 1: coming in here. Idea, the team that's this is this
Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting because I don't think they've seen
Speaker 1: a team and I'm not saying something you folks already
Speaker 1: don't know out there. This is a team that stretches
Speaker 1: you horizontally to make plays vertically right, which is they
Speaker 1: create a ton of space. And the way they they
Speaker 1: operate their routes, the way they're offensively, this is this
Speaker 1: is one of the best offensive lines that I've seen
Speaker 1: of the games. I mean, I mean, I'm telling a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of games of watching offensive lines
Speaker 1: play this one right here. They got it. They've got
Speaker 1: this thing figured out, and they they're never on the ground.
Speaker 1: They're running backs run hard, their receivers do a great job,
Speaker 1: they have tight ends to get involved, and they got
Speaker 1: a quarterback that knows how to get them the ball.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Get ready. They stretch, You
Speaker 1: stretch horizontally to play against your vertically. Be ready for
Speaker 1: that game and they give you and you got a
Speaker 1: quarterback who gets every at the ball. Yeah, exactly, even
Speaker 1: guys you never heard of. Yeah, they do that. That's
Speaker 1: has that ever happened? What we saw on Thanksgiving with
Speaker 1: their game four undrafted free agents with four touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the win over Atlanta. I mean, when you're your role
Speaker 1: and when that's happening, you know, there's there you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at what Philadelphia want a game yesterday
Speaker 1: playing with a bunch of banged up secondary guys too,
Speaker 1: I mean there's sometimes you just have to play with
Speaker 1: these guys and they and it works out well. Think
Speaker 1: about you know, Cam Fleming playing the other day for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we haven't always been very positive about Cam Fleming
Speaker 1: and his you know, and like oh geez, and and
Speaker 1: you know, really during warm ups they can by the
Speaker 1: way you're playing today, oh wow, okay, yeah, sure, I'm
Speaker 1: in there, you know, and you've got two guys on
Speaker 1: that left side. So yeah, you get sometimes you get
Speaker 1: performances from people that are unique. Sure, but that that
Speaker 1: she goes to show you though, the scheme that they
Speaker 1: have the ability to have to plug players into their
Speaker 1: scheme and the way that allows the quarterback to execute
Speaker 1: the scheme that they have their in New Orleans. You
Speaker 1: don't want just don't want to play too long with
Speaker 1: those guys, because then the next team sees what they
Speaker 1: can and can't do. They get exposed, and they get exposed.
Speaker 1: They still that quarterback though. Yeah, no I'm saying I'm
Speaker 1: referencing Cam Fleming. Oh I'm sorry, I'm referring Xavier cia Filo,
Speaker 1: who you know, would look like the first game, it
Speaker 1: was really good the second game. So now you gotta
Speaker 1: beat on what Cam Fleming can do and can't do,
Speaker 1: and how the Cowboys were trying to cover them up
Speaker 1: with no question tight end over there, uh brown uh
Speaker 1: kind of motioning over there, and you know it wasn't
Speaker 1: just him on an island. Like they sacrifice Chaz Green
Speaker 1: right at Golden Point, Gold, Gold, gold Star and cookie
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff for that ability to make that
Speaker 1: adjustment and not allow somebody that game, because it could
Speaker 1: have been very difficult for them. You know, if you
Speaker 1: talk about Preston Smith and you talk about Ryan Carrigan
Speaker 1: over there, and maybe you get a Jonathan Allen come
Speaker 1: walking out there a little bit. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: worry about those things. Fill the novice in on who
Speaker 1: makes the call on something like that from an offensive
Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, As far as given help to a left tackle,
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, they didn't concert There was not a
Speaker 1: lot of practice time last week, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: been like going back to Atlanta last year. Who is
Speaker 1: it that ultimately makes the call on Okay, we got
Speaker 1: to give this guy help over here. I think the
Speaker 1: offensive corner does. I think the offensive corners, if he's
Speaker 1: calling the game, he has to tell the offensive line coaches, Hey,
Speaker 1: I still want to get to this, and then the
Speaker 1: offensive line coach then has to remind him, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you get to that, I'm gonna have to have help
Speaker 1: for that guy if you expect him to block lay
Speaker 1: one on one is how much on the fly during
Speaker 1: the course of a game does that conversation go on that, Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to get help over there, And then I
Speaker 1: think it's with your own Yeah, I think it's with
Speaker 1: your own I see, And I don't mean to harken
Speaker 1: back to the LSU A and m game. But A
Speaker 1: and M LSU was way too late of getting Greedy Williams,
Speaker 1: one of the best corners in the league and college football,
Speaker 1: over on Rogers. You know, they never I mean, Rogers
Speaker 1: started killing him in the overtime period, and Dave Randa's
Speaker 1: adjustment should have been, Okay, I'm playing a twenty five
Speaker 1: yard field. I've got to get my best player on
Speaker 1: their best player right now and try and stop this.
Speaker 1: And he never got to that until it was way
Speaker 1: too late in the game. And I think coaches are
Speaker 1: like that that you don't want to wait too late.
Speaker 1: You're gonna think, Hey, if we're going with this guy,
Speaker 1: I've got to have this guy some help. I can't.
Speaker 1: I've seen him not perform at a level that is acceptable.
Speaker 1: I need him to have some help. And to Mickey's point,
Speaker 1: give credit for them making that adjustment somewhat on the fly,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't like last year in Atlanta with Chazz
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, they they thought Tyrn was
Speaker 1: starting that football game, no question. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Cam Fleming told us he walked in after warm ups
Speaker 1: and they said, you're up today, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that you know, and they made, They made a
Speaker 1: schematic adjustment. They weren't going to do that with Hyrn
Speaker 1: if he was good to go, I mean, they would
Speaker 1: let him take his guy. Yeah. So the big takeaway
Speaker 1: from the Redskins game as far as what was since
Speaker 1: we haven't had an opportunity to talk about that game yet,
Speaker 1: what was it that impressed you the most about what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did in that game? I think that the
Speaker 1: way that they went they gave up the four sacks
Speaker 1: early in the game and in the half, and then
Speaker 1: came back and didn't give up any I think that
Speaker 1: was a really big key in this game, and it
Speaker 1: looked like it was there could potentially be some problems
Speaker 1: in the second half, but you know, the defense did
Speaker 1: a great job given the offense some opportunity with some
Speaker 1: turnovers and things. I really do like what I saw
Speaker 1: from again, the left side of that offensive line. It
Speaker 1: wasn't pretty over there, but at least they got things
Speaker 1: done against a very difficult defensive line, difficult, difficult defensive front,
Speaker 1: and you got what you needed at a zeke running
Speaker 1: the football. And you know, again, Amari Cooper, what do
Speaker 1: you need to say about that? They raised the hurricane
Speaker 1: flag with Amari Cooper. It was like, the touchdowns were great,
Speaker 1: but it's the warning going forward you want to blitz,
Speaker 1: you better get there. You want to you know, stuff
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage to stop the run. You better
Speaker 1: have a corner that can stand up for however many
Speaker 1: plays you got to play man to man against Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper because if you make a mistake, he might go
Speaker 1: ninety yards on you. And so I think that it
Speaker 1: was the thing that Sanjay Lal talked about. He said,
Speaker 1: I don't know how productive he'll be, but his presence
Speaker 1: will mean a lot. Well, I think his presence will
Speaker 1: mean even more now that you've seen the production. It's
Speaker 1: helped out Zeke a lot. There's no question about it.
Speaker 1: Just his presence for the running game. To me, the
Speaker 1: thing that stood out is they had three players in
Speaker 1: the game, all pro, Pro Bowl type level that just
Speaker 1: took over the game. Zeke took over the game, Amar
Speaker 1: took over the game. DeMarcus Lawrence continues to have such
Speaker 1: a huge impact what they do defensively, not just rushing
Speaker 1: the passer. He's just relentless back there. And I thought
Speaker 1: those three guys played at that type of level and
Speaker 1: kind of mitigated. Like what Brian said, the strength of
Speaker 1: that Washington team is their defensive front, and they kept
Speaker 1: a minute for a while. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the talent took over for Dallas in that game. That
Speaker 1: was really impressive. And I thought that the mental toughness
Speaker 1: of the team for the third straight game after they
Speaker 1: lacked mental toughness in the Tennessee game. Remember, in the
Speaker 1: third quarter of that game was tight game, and then
Speaker 1: Tennessee just kept on, kept on, kept tight, and Tennessee
Speaker 1: wins the game. And the Cowboys, I mean, it almost
Speaker 1: looked like they were done for the season at the
Speaker 1: end of that day. And for the third straight week,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a game in the third quarter where
Speaker 1: it was either tied or they were behind. In this case,
Speaker 1: they were behind thirteen to ten. And that's when they
Speaker 1: kept pressing and they took over the game. And at
Speaker 1: winning time, they made the plays they needed to make
Speaker 1: to take control of the game. Absolutely, I think Rob
Speaker 1: was I think Rob hit the nail on the head
Speaker 1: with the thing with Lawrence too. You look at the play.
Speaker 1: I mean, here they are they try and chop him
Speaker 1: down at the edge. It was a second time they've
Speaker 1: tried to run that play and he was up to
Speaker 1: the task the second time and him not to be
Speaker 1: cut down in that situation with the ball going to
Speaker 1: the outside and make the play he did. And that's
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about turnovers, so and you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are getting their hands on turnovers. I mean
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we've kind of unfortunately
Speaker 1: though with you know, with with the Woods. You know,
Speaker 1: I wish you would have just been a little bit
Speaker 1: more aggressive inside to get that to get that one.
Speaker 1: But you know, least they're getting their hands on footballs,
Speaker 1: and I think that's you know, Woozier, that was a
Speaker 1: tough chance to off the tip ball of vander esh
Speaker 1: But again, least they're getting their hands on footballs to
Speaker 1: try and create some turnovers. It's, uh, you hope it's
Speaker 1: the start of a trend if you're Dallas, right, because
Speaker 1: I think in this game more than anyone. I think
Speaker 1: you kind of spoke to it in the Atlantic game,
Speaker 1: but this one's at another level. Yeah, you got to
Speaker 1: create extra possessions. It's like it's like it's like arena football.
Speaker 1: The team that's got the most possessions and can get
Speaker 1: one or two stops is gonna probably win this football
Speaker 1: game Thursday. So can you give Dak the ball one
Speaker 1: or two more times? It's probably you're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to do that in this game. You just gotta make plays. Well,
Speaker 1: that too, right, that too. I mean defensively. Offensively, you
Speaker 1: can have up the greatest schemes in the world, but
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll guarantee you they didn't scheme a ninety yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass right now. You gotta make plays in this league.
Speaker 1: You can't just keep grinding and going eighty yards and
Speaker 1: fifteen plays. Sometimes you just gotta make a big play.
Speaker 1: And that's why you have great players or good players.
Speaker 1: They got to make those plays along the line. And
Speaker 1: if you don't have anybody who's gonna do that, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get beat. So they made plays because the longer
Speaker 1: you have the ball and the longer you're trying to
Speaker 1: drive something bad's gonna happen. There's more of a chance
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, they odds go up. Gotta make a play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what happened over the weekend for you guys? Anything big?
Speaker 1: We worked on Friday and Sunday, so there was no
Speaker 1: weekend Saturday. We had Saturday at college football Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. We did nothing else big happened for anybody.
Speaker 1: I became a grandfather for the third time. There Where
Speaker 1: he's going with this, I was thinking none of us.
Speaker 1: Jane Mars Griffith third graduation on the get a little
Speaker 1: camera right there. I'm not sure, but anyway, born on
Speaker 1: Saturday at four eighteen. I've got sons now PM. We
Speaker 1: got a call on Saturday morning that she was going,
Speaker 1: my daughter, Jessica was going into labor. Spent all day
Speaker 1: on Saturday at the hospital and he arrived at four eighteen. Congrats. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I mean, this the miracle of childbirth. But you did
Speaker 1: that cause you to miss football? Or I got home
Speaker 1: in time to watch seventy four to seventy two, the
Speaker 1: seven overtimes on Saturday night basically, and Friday night was
Speaker 1: your big night to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: fifty nine fifty six. I thought we're gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: another big twelve title game birth. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: different kind of birth. Yeah, let's right, it'll go a
Speaker 1: little bigger news than that. That was yep, yep. So
Speaker 1: we're trying to get him ready in time to go
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Speaker 1: them Bill. At that time, Bill's watching the birth of
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Speaker 1: good right now? I just wanted to say, basically, I
Speaker 1: watched your show. I've been a Cowboys fan ever since
Speaker 1: I was seven. I'm fifty five now, and what's your
Speaker 1: show religiously or watch the break religiously. I've always been
Speaker 1: trying to get on but never get on, But now
Speaker 1: I finally got on this morning. I just want to
Speaker 1: say the game Thursday was great. I loved it. Dak
Speaker 1: played the awesome game. I do know that. You know,
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of rumors last year that Dak
Speaker 1: would see what Dak was basically without Zeke and everything else,
Speaker 1: would they If you go back in the nineties, Troy
Speaker 1: wasn't that good either. You know, Emmett set out two
Speaker 1: games they lost to two games. So it's not just basically,
Speaker 1: you know, a quarterback can't be good without a running
Speaker 1: back because you got to have both of them and
Speaker 1: I think Dak is playing awesome. Thank you well, thank
Speaker 1: you Sure. How about Dak's performance on Thursday. You can't
Speaker 1: beat it when you make plays right. She's playing with
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence right now. Yeah, he is a
Speaker 1: third down it's been so much better for him. He's
Speaker 1: actually got guys that get open, you know. I think
Speaker 1: that's a big help. You look at what happened early
Speaker 1: in that football game. What do you do go out
Speaker 1: to Maury Cooper? You know, you throw the ball with
Speaker 1: a guiding separate and not have to make a bunch
Speaker 1: of tight window throws. Those are those are Those are
Speaker 1: the kind you want where just you and the receiver
Speaker 1: are playing pitch and catch, not with some quality defensive
Speaker 1: back hanging on a guy trying to make it a throw,
Speaker 1: you know, two inches here or two inches there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: good for him. He's got a guy can throw the
Speaker 1: football to first and second down have been a lot better.
Speaker 1: Zeke's running continues to run really well. That's help. That
Speaker 1: helps stack out. We keep talking about the down and distance.
Speaker 1: That's a huge factor. He is playing more confident. I
Speaker 1: think he just seems more comfortable back there. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a perfect first half by any stretch and they you know,
Speaker 1: they miss an opportunity in the red zone again and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here we go again. But I think
Speaker 1: there's a trust factor with a Maury Cooper right off
Speaker 1: the bat, I think, and it's kind of speaks away.
Speaker 1: Brian said, he just trusts this guy's going to get
Speaker 1: open and separate, and he is. And the main thing
Speaker 1: is his run after catchability. The guy's at home run threat.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they've had that since Dez was,
Speaker 1: you know, really in his prime. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: his drops, you know at Oakland where we were talking
Speaker 1: about when he was doing just what he was doing,
Speaker 1: taking the football and trying to get north south quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you know, there's a couple of concentration ones.
Speaker 1: But you know, people are like, he drops the ball
Speaker 1: all the time. No, he drops the ball because he's
Speaker 1: trying to just run. He's trying to take a twelve
Speaker 1: yard game and make it a ninety yard game. That's why,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what football players do. That's what
Speaker 1: great football players do, and that's what started to get
Speaker 1: Des in trouble. Yeah, trying to run before he could
Speaker 1: be catch the ball and his son and oh that's
Speaker 1: a drop, okay, but let's read into it. What are
Speaker 1: you what are you doing exactly? You know, he said
Speaker 1: something interesting Amari did a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy, like he's quiet, but he'll give
Speaker 1: you some real insight. You know. I just thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting the way he put it. He said, my
Speaker 1: job as a receiver is to get as open as
Speaker 1: humanly possible with my routes. So Dak just has to
Speaker 1: throw it somewhere within the vicinity of my route and
Speaker 1: I'll go get it. And it was a simple statement,
Speaker 1: but it really speaks to just how precise he is
Speaker 1: as a route runner. You know. I think he's very
Speaker 1: he takes that very seriously. And you see these routes
Speaker 1: that he's running. Yeah, they're big plays, but he's also
Speaker 1: putting in himself in a spot where Dak just has
Speaker 1: to get it. He runs routes I've and I was
Speaker 1: trying in my head and I wrote about this for
Speaker 1: or after the post game from the scouts. Scouts, I
Speaker 1: he does something in his route I have never seen
Speaker 1: other receivers do, and it's his ability to he can
Speaker 1: he could drive a guy off, but if he's but
Speaker 1: if he's going to have to break, he almost turns
Speaker 1: his not almost, he turns his body sideways to where
Speaker 1: most guys will have to go and then settle their
Speaker 1: weight and then plant and go. He could run and
Speaker 1: turn him self sideways and whichever direction he wants to go,
Speaker 1: so he opens up to the side he's going to
Speaker 1: break too, or if he's going to break the route
Speaker 1: inside or out, he just turns his body that way
Speaker 1: and instead of having to stop and then break. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you can watch him. It's I'll show you
Speaker 1: guys on tape one day if you want to come
Speaker 1: and see it. But he'll run and he'll just turn
Speaker 1: and the defensive back still thinks he's going forward, and
Speaker 1: then he's right into his break because his hips already
Speaker 1: opened up to where he could plant and go where
Speaker 1: he needs to go, and that buys him a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I mean, that's why he was able, you know.
Speaker 1: You you look at the what he was able to
Speaker 1: do against the Redskins, you know, against their cornerbacks. I mean,
Speaker 1: and he's done it a couple of different times. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a technique thing. You talk about pride and
Speaker 1: route running and all that. Boy, he's just got really
Speaker 1: good technique. It helps gives him much more ability to
Speaker 1: get opened faster than it does like the normal guy
Speaker 1: that has to run, chop his steps, settle his weight
Speaker 1: and then plant and go. So if you look out,
Speaker 1: I forgot which touchdown it was the dB fell down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't fall down because he had bad footing. He
Speaker 1: fell down just because of what Brian said. His route
Speaker 1: was so good. The dB couldn't turn away. He turned.
Speaker 1: He had him going out and when he tried to
Speaker 1: go back in he slipped and fell. It was the route.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the guy falling. He got separation on Josh Norman,
Speaker 1: which is not easy. Now Josh Norman isn't Carolina Panther
Speaker 1: Josh Norman anymore, but Josh Norman is a guy that
Speaker 1: usually can stay with and it is really good at
Speaker 1: reading routes. Murray had him a little had him a
Speaker 1: little bit playing on his heels, and I think that's where,
Speaker 1: like I say, I'll show you guys one time if
Speaker 1: you want to see the way he's kind of able
Speaker 1: just to open his hips and still maintain speed and
Speaker 1: then get inside or get outside. Just because of the
Speaker 1: way his positions his body. You know. That was one
Speaker 1: of the drills Sanjay had him doing in training camp
Speaker 1: and I was, I was like, what are they doing?
Speaker 1: Because he was he was trying to teach them how
Speaker 1: to sink their hips right when they turn, and so
Speaker 1: he was making them put their hand on the ground right,
Speaker 1: And I go, that's not the way you're gonna do
Speaker 1: that in the game, is it? And he goes no,
Speaker 1: But he goes the idea is to get them to
Speaker 1: feel how to sink your hips. And you put your
Speaker 1: hand on the ground. You have to sink your hips
Speaker 1: when you're gonna make your break. And he doesn't need
Speaker 1: to put his hand. He understands, Yeah, to be able
Speaker 1: to do that. It's rare when you have a receiver
Speaker 1: that can run routes at the same speed and never change.
Speaker 1: Miles Auston Jason Garrett was Miles Austin had that ability
Speaker 1: to run routes at the same speed. If he was
Speaker 1: running at you, he could run his route at the
Speaker 1: same speed, make that cut and not have to settle weight.
Speaker 1: That's where defensive backs understand when they're watching and they're
Speaker 1: playing you, they see you start to set to sink
Speaker 1: and once they see sink, then that's the that's their
Speaker 1: queue to drive or to them for them to sink
Speaker 1: and then go with you. I think you find great
Speaker 1: running backs are able to do that. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: fast the fast running backs and in fact, yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting. There was something about Felix Jones
Speaker 1: and that when he made cuts whatever, you know, and
Speaker 1: then I think he got hurt later, you know, and
Speaker 1: so he busted as an NFL player, but when he
Speaker 1: came into the league he had that on a break
Speaker 1: where and similar type. Well, what you're talking about, I
Speaker 1: think right now, it's it's it's the way these receivers
Speaker 1: get separation now and the really good ones have the
Speaker 1: ability to sell where they're going or sell on a
Speaker 1: different idea and not give you a read. And Josh Norman,
Speaker 1: I think Josh Norman is one of the best ever played.
Speaker 1: And Amari Cooper had him guessing, you know, guessing, hesitating,
Speaker 1: and that's what you have mean you get that, you
Speaker 1: get that hesitation, then you get the separation. And he's
Speaker 1: kind of the unwide receiver when it comes to his personality.
Speaker 1: Rob's right, he doesn't say a heck of a lot.
Speaker 1: But when he says something you ought to pay attention,
Speaker 1: which made me think which touchdown celebration was more surprising
Speaker 1: because his I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think he
Speaker 1: had a free throw. Seriously, Well, it wasn't just a
Speaker 1: fine go ahead. It was the Marquelle faults um, which
Speaker 1: I feel but yeah, the juggle things. I feel bad
Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, faults because if you've watched the NBA,
Speaker 1: he's really struggling. He's got like a mental block with
Speaker 1: his jump shot and somebody has told him to just
Speaker 1: juggle it like this to get your mind off your
Speaker 1: form and then just put it up. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's working or not, but my son
Speaker 1: unique Yea Benes, that was a great celebration that Amara had.
Speaker 1: And I said, he just shot a free throw? What's that?
Speaker 1: Was my take? He goes, he was was trolling faults
Speaker 1: what he was doing? And I go, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: He goes, if you ever watched faults shot free throw?
Speaker 1: He goes, he juggles the ball now, and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what that was. We got to watch. I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is like a Chuck Nabler kind of thing.
Speaker 1: With this young player for Philly, the sixers, like he's
Speaker 1: been missing them all. He's he's he has this hitch
Speaker 1: in his shot, like he can't. He's almost it's almost
Speaker 1: like he's forgotten. And maybe he got too he's got yips.
Speaker 1: But anyway, this fult to knowledge it on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he took it and stride. It was these free throw shooters,
Speaker 1: it's simple. All you gotta do. You bounced it three times,
Speaker 1: you've been your knees and you shoot. That's it. But
Speaker 1: that's what you could have made a lot of money.
Speaker 1: That's how. That's how former Dallas Chaparral since he pal
Speaker 1: taught me as an eight year old, Well he should
Speaker 1: have got a hold of Shack then that he should have.
Speaker 1: I wish I could have got a hold of Shack.
Speaker 1: I could have been a lot of Lebron, a bad
Speaker 1: free throw shooter. He's okay, he's okay. For some reason,
Speaker 1: Lebron had some troll. Shack had he would change his
Speaker 1: his You gotta stay in rhythm, horror, that's what. That's
Speaker 1: why you dribble three times and then you shoot. You
Speaker 1: you're in rhythm. It's like a three point shooter. You
Speaker 1: you gotta be in rhythm to shoot. How strong do
Speaker 1: you think Zeke is that he picked Dak up. Deck's
Speaker 1: not light. No, by the way, No, he's too forty.
Speaker 1: I kind of wish he wouldn't have picked him up.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that was That was a That
Speaker 1: was a that was an untime was an important coverage.
Speaker 1: The coverage was not great either though that that. I
Speaker 1: went back and watched that, and there was a couple
Speaker 1: of guys got out of their lane badly on that play.
Speaker 1: On the way I mean when they they took the
Speaker 1: ball right up the middle and it kind of sucked
Speaker 1: everybody in and then when they bounced it, there was
Speaker 1: nobody on the outside other than you know, Rod Smith
Speaker 1: is not fast enough to to take a you know,
Speaker 1: to take a returner like that. And then luckily Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath playing safety did his job. But that's that was
Speaker 1: a bad That was a bad situation. That ball was
Speaker 1: only kicked to the eleven and then I think about
Speaker 1: the penalty, you know, not a good situation. One more
Speaker 1: thing on the Mari celebration, The best part of that
Speaker 1: was the offensive lineman standing on each side like going
Speaker 1: for a rebound and Joe Looney. If that was a
Speaker 1: basketball game, he would have in lane. Oh he was yeah,
Speaker 1: he was bent way. Oh he had his foot over
Speaker 1: the line. But I don't know that was good. They
Speaker 1: don't call that anymore, do they. No, they don't. They don't.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, not as good as the limbo last night
Speaker 1: with Minnesota. That was that. That was good. That might
Speaker 1: take the kid. Okay, we got all these celebrations go on.
Speaker 1: Minnesota does some good ones. Did they do bob sled
Speaker 1: one time? Did they? Then they were all like they
Speaker 1: were in a bob slid during the Winter Olympics. It
Speaker 1: was pretty Minnesota comes up with some creative ones that
Speaker 1: watch are all with going into the Salvation army kettle.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna do the bob sled and we're gonna
Speaker 1: do the free thrill, we're gonna do all this other
Speaker 1: stuff with an imaginary I have no idea or getting
Speaker 1: twenty one dollars handed to you. Yeah, if you're that's like,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If you're if you're Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: do you ask that the kettles be removed from the field?
Speaker 1: You know, all you gotta do. You don't have to
Speaker 1: run from the kettle you don't have to remove them
Speaker 1: from the field, but you could put them on the sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so people can run into them. No, so you could
Speaker 1: do it. You go to the Cowboys sideline and then
Speaker 1: you're the can and now you're not. So technically if
Speaker 1: they just moved him around the corner, yeah, then or
Speaker 1: you could keep him. You could keep those prominently displayed
Speaker 1: and get additional ones on the sideline. Well, guess the
Speaker 1: Cowboys sideline. I why, yeah, no, kiddy, the show is
Speaker 1: a false alarm. So when I was headed to the
Speaker 1: locker room, Jerry was Jerry was leaving, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you might want to put those
Speaker 1: those kettles up on a stand. Yeah, the players can't
Speaker 1: get to him. And he looked at me, he goes,
Speaker 1: why would I do that? You know? Did you see
Speaker 1: how much attention that drew for the Salvation Army? But
Speaker 1: I don't like the But then but then he prefers
Speaker 1: it going. He goes, as long as it turns out
Speaker 1: the way it did. Yeah, we had a family discussion
Speaker 1: about this, and my daughters and wife were saying, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's doing so much good for the Salvation Army.
Speaker 1: You got to keep doing it. I said, no, it's penalty.
Speaker 1: So it is if you have a fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 1: And I'm all for jumping in the cut. I'm all
Speaker 1: for changing the rule. And what's the make it like
Speaker 1: the Lambeau leap. What's the difference between the two. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think you call the league and say, look,
Speaker 1: we're raising X amount of dollars for this wonderful cause. Right,
Speaker 1: just let it go, right, I mean seriously, for a
Speaker 1: month out of the year. How Jason answered it? Finally
Speaker 1: was it the next day when he or no, was
Speaker 1: that game? He said, no, was it was at the
Speaker 1: game and he said yeah. He goes, you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be careful, and then he goes, and
Speaker 1: then maybe the NFL needs to rethink things exactly. He said, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he said it. He said. I asked him about it
Speaker 1: on the Jason Garrett Show after the game, and he said,
Speaker 1: you need to start a letter writing campaign to the
Speaker 1: NFL to get this rule change, because what do they
Speaker 1: used to call it the no fun League? Right? And
Speaker 1: so now you got all these cool celebrations, but you
Speaker 1: can't go some goofy whatever, go ahead, but you can't.
Speaker 1: But you but you can't do it in the name
Speaker 1: of charity. That's come on, let's let's just realize what
Speaker 1: we're doing here. You know, jumping a kettle jumping stands
Speaker 1: was the difference. Well, that was grandfathered in, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: And I was there for the first one. The first
Speaker 1: one who didn't it was Leroy Butler. He was He
Speaker 1: got a interception, Reggie White recovered a fumble. He pitched
Speaker 1: at Leroy Butler. Leroy Butler ran at the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. Adamska se La La Raiders nineteen ninety four
Speaker 1: jumped in the stands twenty into nothing first lambo leap, Wow,
Speaker 1: standing right there? Cool? But yeah, it was grandfathered in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's not really grandfathered in. It's fathered
Speaker 1: in because because now everybody else, everybody else is doing it. Now,
Speaker 1: if you got it stands, you can jump into everybody's
Speaker 1: doing it. And that's not for charity. I just think
Speaker 1: if you're doing a limbo like last night, which was awesome,
Speaker 1: you can jump in a kettle. Give me a brand ex.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like mascot humor. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like if you're if we're gonna get crazy with
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, that's not that crazy. Just jumping in
Speaker 1: a kettle for a second. Not a big deal, Not
Speaker 1: a big deal, all right, Tony in Atlanta, You're next
Speaker 1: up on Talking and Cowboys than guys. Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 1: I know everybody's doing well, thank you. So here's my
Speaker 1: my concerned kind of question. Um, the last couple of games,
Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten up by double digits at Atlanta
Speaker 1: and next thing you know, they roared back and tie
Speaker 1: the game and we had to kick a field goal late.
Speaker 1: And then Washington, you know, we got up double digits
Speaker 1: and you know, they came back and made things a
Speaker 1: little uneasy. Just from what you all are seeing, are
Speaker 1: they is the defense loosening or these offenses just kind
Speaker 1: of turning up the voltage, you know, and we're not adjusting,
Speaker 1: you know, to them. I'm just kind of concerned, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not thinking we're gonna get
Speaker 1: up by ten on Thursday, but you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of concerned with you know, when they get up,
Speaker 1: you know, double digits, you know that they're not you know,
Speaker 1: putting the foot on the gas and putting these teams away,
Speaker 1: they letting them back in and making things uneasy. Thanks, well,
Speaker 1: they got back in because of the kettle, yeah, and
Speaker 1: not covering the kick properly, right, And that made it
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty with eleven forty three left in the
Speaker 1: fourth and then the Cowboys came up with an interception
Speaker 1: on the next Washington possession. Right. So it's a fair question. Actually,
Speaker 1: it took care of six minutes of the clock in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Yeah, yeah, you know, but it is
Speaker 1: a fair question. I always we all do. This is
Speaker 1: stupid for me to say, but we all feel better
Speaker 1: about this defense when they have a double digit lead,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It seems like that's why
Speaker 1: we were so concerned about, you know, missing field goals
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and stuff like that. I was sitting there going,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I was telling Nana, go get this
Speaker 1: thing to double digits. They got a chance to win.
Speaker 1: You know, Dallas offensively, like you said, Bill can take
Speaker 1: time off the clock running the football, so you can
Speaker 1: protect a lead a little bit better. They're accustomed to
Speaker 1: play in that way and keep you keep your best
Speaker 1: player involved. Yes, yeah, yeah, But I just think there's
Speaker 1: some teams that you know, hey, I didn't expect to know, No,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz moving to football. That's different than than Colt
Speaker 1: McCoy moving the football. Know, Carson Wentz, I expect him
Speaker 1: to move the football, I really do. I mean, with
Speaker 1: that tight end and receivers they got in the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the way he throws the ball. But you know, I
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan as well, Matt Ryan as well, I
Speaker 1: think you're just you know, you're talking about guys that
Speaker 1: are that's their job. I mean, Drew Brees this coming Thursday,
Speaker 1: the flat. I'm sure somebody in Washington, or and Philly
Speaker 1: were going, well, you know, or Atlanta were going, well, god,
Speaker 1: how does Dak Prescott move the ball? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they probably didn't see that one coming, but you know,
Speaker 1: good for him. I just think defensively, they they they
Speaker 1: put themselves in the position and make some plays like
Speaker 1: Mickey was asking the other day or today, and and
Speaker 1: they just haven't really followed through you know, some of
Speaker 1: the you know, like they needed to, you know, getting
Speaker 1: that key sacked, sack strip something to kind of turn
Speaker 1: the game around, you know, to keep people from driving
Speaker 1: in on them, you know, in a little bit in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when you have a double digit lead,
Speaker 1: you're also playing defense against the clock. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: want to give up anything big, keep them in. Well
Speaker 1: that in the Atlantic game, Atlanta game, you didn't have
Speaker 1: enough defensive lineman. That that that hurts you a lot. True,
Speaker 1: that hurts you. I felt like it hurts you a
Speaker 1: lot in that game. How about to run defense in
Speaker 1: this game against the Redskins. Yeah, that's see, that's that's
Speaker 1: what you got to do, because you know, the Redskins
Speaker 1: want to play the same way you do. They want
Speaker 1: to run and play play action and throw the ball
Speaker 1: down the field if they can. But I mean the
Speaker 1: first time around they ran for one hundred thirty Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Peter said, had very little room to run most of
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah that was second time. That's exactly. They
Speaker 1: were actually punishing him. Yeah, well you need to be
Speaker 1: whatever that run defense was needed to bring it yeah
Speaker 1: this week, Yeah, bring it with you whatever, different cat,
Speaker 1: a couple of different cats. Yeah. Yeah, all right, we
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Speaker 1: with d A and M, you know, and and he's
Speaker 1: trying to like be all nice to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've got to go to work. I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to deal with that. We have congratulations
Speaker 1: drop first time in eight years, you know, the backhand,
Speaker 1: but hey, I appreciate it, appreciate it might have been
Speaker 1: the first time if that happened to me to tell
Speaker 1: my dad the shutdown. College football brings that out in people.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of passion you have. You
Speaker 1: have a you have a sweat equity. It's lawyers five years,
Speaker 1: eight years, it's money, it's you know, it's where you
Speaker 1: grew up. Can't where did you graduate from? He is trolling.
Speaker 1: He's an Aggie, a pure blood Aggie. Yeah, you went
Speaker 1: to school. Where's your degree from? I had a film
Speaker 1: degree and they don't offer that at A and M.
Speaker 1: Where's your film degree from? TCUs? Oh? I see, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Man. His heart is in college. You
Speaker 1: have to go to the school to be able to
Speaker 1: for them. Just be careful. We all have some songs.
Speaker 1: We play them again. Notre Dame is the king of
Speaker 1: people that are fans that never went there. How about
Speaker 1: that that place? People will remind you Notre Dame there?
Speaker 1: If your name right now, I'm like, you didn't even
Speaker 1: go to school there, You don't even where. If you're Catholic,
Speaker 1: you qualify, you can go, you can root for Holy
Speaker 1: Cross is available to My dad didn't like Notre Dame
Speaker 1: right one years. I can't remember who beat him, and
Speaker 1: somebody beat him, and my dad goes to confession on
Speaker 1: Saturday and basically in the confessional booth he gives the
Speaker 1: priest a jab notre dame losing right. Eddie comes out
Speaker 1: and starts telling us about it. My mother's going, oh
Speaker 1: jes making the sign of the cross. And you told
Speaker 1: the priest that my dad goes He's just a man.
Speaker 1: I'm just a man. My name is Fred. So if
Speaker 1: you know where I get my stuff from, it's the Jeans.
Speaker 1: There you go. Here we go. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to Louisiana. Let's check with Ray Ray. Are you an
Speaker 1: LSU fan? Hello? Ray, Good morning guys. How a y'all?
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. Sure, but don't worry about
Speaker 1: getting a call from Louisiana because I'm an American by
Speaker 1: birth but detecting by the grace of God. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go. So I got three things, go on asking,
Speaker 1: I'll hang up. Let's see, I'll talk. As the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, they said that Jayal Smith was only
Speaker 1: about eighty five percent. I wandered his head at one
Speaker 1: hundred percent yet or we have to look for more
Speaker 1: coming next year. On Joe Looney, with the way he's
Speaker 1: played this year. I think he's on the one year deal.
Speaker 1: He think we'll be able to sign him to keep
Speaker 1: him as a backup or do you think he'll move
Speaker 1: on to another team? And as far as the game
Speaker 1: goes Thursday night, I'm gonna go with what Mickey always says,
Speaker 1: every time you win a game that much closer to
Speaker 1: losing one. I don't think the Saint to play the
Speaker 1: defense as solid as we have, and I think they'll
Speaker 1: lose that game thirty one to twenty four. Okay, you
Speaker 1: got have a good day, thank you? All right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone who agrees with Micky, he loves that way. You'll
Speaker 1: have a sale may at the Santis. That's right about
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. How close is he to one? I think
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the best of Jalen Smith yet. I
Speaker 1: think Jayalen Smith is only going to get better. I
Speaker 1: really do. And this is a complete one eighty from
Speaker 1: where I was three years ago. And to his credit,
Speaker 1: I've said it a bunch, but the doctors, the trainers,
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about this was the year to kind
Speaker 1: of take a peek at Jalen Smith, and my guy,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith looks a lot better. I think that he's
Speaker 1: you know, you can see the change of direction, you
Speaker 1: can see the lateral mobility, you could see the forward stuff.
Speaker 1: We've always seen that. You've seen the ability to cover,
Speaker 1: You've seen the ability to run, you've seen ability to blitz.
Speaker 1: I just think he's going to get even a better
Speaker 1: feel for how to play defense. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a lot like Layton Vanderish as they're
Speaker 1: both young, and they're both really smart, and they both
Speaker 1: get it. They both understand, Okay, prepare, study, and now
Speaker 1: go perform. And you know he's gonna he's gonna continue
Speaker 1: to grow in his instincts as he's growing in his health. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he continues to grow in his instincts, and
Speaker 1: I think that's where you're going to see the best
Speaker 1: of Jalen Smith. I don't know they're gonna need him
Speaker 1: in this game, for sure, Oh for sure. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we talk enough about that. The fact that
Speaker 1: this is his second year, yeah, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: been here three years now, but last year was his
Speaker 1: first time on the field, and just the more he sees,
Speaker 1: the more comfortable he's going to be out there. You
Speaker 1: see it with Layton too, just as the more snaps
Speaker 1: he gets, the better he gets. And and yeah, Jalen,
Speaker 1: I think everybody's so focused on his physical recovery last
Speaker 1: year that nobody really talked about just, I don't know,
Speaker 1: getting back into football and reading reading things out there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's growing week to week two thanks
Speaker 1: for Joe Looney. He's under contract next year. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he would not be a free agent till twenty. I
Speaker 1: think Joe Looney is doing a very good job as
Speaker 1: a backup, and I think that's probably what he is.
Speaker 1: So he's got two thousand nineteen. He's under contract, right, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's not a free agent. You got that on
Speaker 1: there line and you really don't worry about that as much.
Speaker 1: He's not thirty, he's twilight. But see, you know, and
Speaker 1: has anybody heard any whispers about Travis Frederick and next year?
Speaker 1: Next year? Next year? I've had people tell because I've
Speaker 1: kind of in my mind, I'm thinking about the draft
Speaker 1: show and what I direction on what we needed. Do
Speaker 1: we need to talk about a center? Do we need?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to add. Someone come up to
Speaker 1: me and say it felt like that, and I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in people's mouth or but this
Speaker 1: guy trust told me. He says there's a really good
Speaker 1: chance to Travis Frederick plays. Because I'm thinking, well, you
Speaker 1: have to look at the center. I gotta find a center.
Speaker 1: I gotta look at somebody. And I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that's right, you know what. I
Speaker 1: hope that's right. But to what you're thinking. Was my
Speaker 1: thinking on it was, I've got to have a center
Speaker 1: that would at least challenge Looney, yes, for the backup job, right,
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then maybe he's good enough.
Speaker 1: If indeed, if they get in a in a bind,
Speaker 1: they can start. I don't think that's wrong to spend
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick center. Yeah. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: out of the question. They traded for Arringer right before
Speaker 1: the season started to can he play center for you?
Speaker 1: Or is he guard? Yeah? Yeah, ok, yeah, he's on
Speaker 1: I R right now and Redman right now as you're
Speaker 1: a backup center guard type guy. But I couldn't remember that. Rob.
Speaker 1: I was like, he's been on our the whole year. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: he got hurt the first day was here. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why they brought Yeah, yeah, I think with Travis and
Speaker 1: by the way, practiced, so he's out of the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, there at least yesterday they were
Speaker 1: they were numbers wise, not very deep on the offensive line. No,
Speaker 1: the guys that were playing scout team were also you're
Speaker 1: starting with the exception of the center and the right tackle.
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, well, they didn't have enough guys to
Speaker 1: have two lines when they practiced. When we saw Zach
Speaker 1: Is dealing with that knee, and um, we were watching
Speaker 1: them all work on the grass field. That's good. They
Speaker 1: were working. What happened to Sulphilo in the game, you
Speaker 1: got rolled up on Denny ankle. Okay, so and then
Speaker 1: we'll see what we'll see on Tying. One thing I
Speaker 1: was gonna say about Travis is I don't I haven't heard.
Speaker 1: I don't think they know. They don't know the deadline
Speaker 1: or timeline for a return. But we were just talking
Speaker 1: about Jalen. This is a much more serious thing than
Speaker 1: Jalen's knee. Obviously, this is a this is an autoimmune illness,
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's maybe similar in one respect
Speaker 1: and that it's a it's kind of a nerve situation
Speaker 1: and you don't know when, but you're just hoping that,
Speaker 1: you know, it gets to the point where everything starts
Speaker 1: firing again, and that's that's where they're at. And it's
Speaker 1: first off, his quality of life that's the most important.
Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, I was just I was surprised with
Speaker 1: again because I was trying to in my mind thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: when we do the start this draft show here in
Speaker 1: another six weeks or so, do we do we have
Speaker 1: to start talking about positional like centers. And the guy's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, what Mickey said makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: But I mean you're thinking about oh, second round center,
Speaker 1: third round center. I mean, but you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: what if I can find somebody that's upgrade for my
Speaker 1: backup game day a guard center? Maybe Redman is that guy,
Speaker 1: and maybe is maybe Redman's a guy because yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: they just you know, they work with Redman and that's
Speaker 1: the way they go. What about thirty one twenty four?
Speaker 1: I as good as his defense has been, to think
Speaker 1: that they're gonna hold them under thirty that would be
Speaker 1: an amazing accomplishment if they can do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is I think they're thirty seven point two for
Speaker 1: the season. New Orleans, now, we've we've seen them face
Speaker 1: the Saints before and it's kind of a similar situation.
Speaker 1: They went out there in two thousand and nine, they
Speaker 1: were thirteen to o. They were putting up close to
Speaker 1: forty points a game, and nobody thought they were going
Speaker 1: to do that. So you can't say they can't do it.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be at New Orleans. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an awfully big challenge, there's no question about that.
Speaker 1: You're looking at a Saints team that has starting a
Speaker 1: month ago October twenty eighth, at Minnesota, won thirty to
Speaker 1: twenty against a good Vikings defense. Yeah, against a good
Speaker 1: Rams defense. It was forty five thirty five. At the Bengals,
Speaker 1: it was fifty one to fourteen. Against the Eagles it
Speaker 1: was forty eight to seven, and then against the Falcons
Speaker 1: thirty one seventeen. So that's how they're playing most recently,
Speaker 1: you know. And I went back and they watched those
Speaker 1: Minnesota game. In Minnesota game and then watched the Atlanta game.
Speaker 1: It's like those teams are driving the ball and are
Speaker 1: fumbling like in the red zone, right, They're they're just
Speaker 1: you know, that's what happened to Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. They they're they're driving the football
Speaker 1: and Julio Jones is like making one of those violent
Speaker 1: runs through the middle of their defense and all a
Speaker 1: sudden he tries to jump over somebody gets hit, ball
Speaker 1: goes flying out and instead of having the ball on
Speaker 1: the you know, the fourteen yard line, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's New Orleans, ball going the other way and they're
Speaker 1: trying to score right before half and you're like going,
Speaker 1: my gosh. And you know, the same thing happened in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: They they create turnovers. I mean, this team, somehow they
Speaker 1: create turnovers. So you know, there used to be a
Speaker 1: time where this whole, this New Orleans team was it
Speaker 1: was all about Drew Brees. It's not that way anymore.
Speaker 1: Draft picks and yeah, they they've got their Their defense
Speaker 1: is legitimate. I mean they went out and and adding
Speaker 1: Eli Apple at corner is was not Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: That's a great move for them. But you know, I say,
Speaker 1: if you can hold them, if Dawaski keeps us into
Speaker 1: a twenty eight point game, Dallas got a great shot
Speaker 1: at winning for sure, game for sure, and that's not impossible.
Speaker 1: I think they can move the ball in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I mean from what I've seen, and that as that
Speaker 1: great philosopher said, the more you win, the closer y
Speaker 1: are to lose. And what a great philosopher that guy
Speaker 1: must have been. So you'd be nice to have David
Speaker 1: Irving back in this game. And I know there's no
Speaker 1: indication he's close, but I'm just saying a guy makes
Speaker 1: you say that because he's six seven with long arms,
Speaker 1: I get it. What made you say that he had
Speaker 1: nice having David Irving back. I'm just saying it would
Speaker 1: be nice to get him back for this game to
Speaker 1: try to collapse the pocket but Jones to take the
Speaker 1: headset off and just start banging your head on the table,
Speaker 1: just like that. Of having David Irving back for this game,
Speaker 1: or two tall Jones tall, at least you might give
Speaker 1: Ryan Ramchick a little trouble out there to tackle him. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think I'm just I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: Joe with Flower Mount, you know, I'm I'm I'm mad
Speaker 1: because what's frustrating around? Yeah, It's like it's like you know,
Speaker 1: and it's high ankle sprain, Brian, it takes six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks high ankle sprain. Hi this Hi that you know? Hi?
Speaker 1: When when did he get when did he get hurts?
Speaker 1: That Titans week in practice? So it's been three and
Speaker 1: a half weeks, so basically a bye week, a good
Speaker 1: recuperation from on high ankle sprains. Four weeks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean a good one to see Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington. We're
Speaker 1: at We're at four weeks now, right, this would be
Speaker 1: the fifth week. Well he got hurt Tennessee, Aladelphia, Atlanta, Washington. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so after the bye maybe then you got to maybe
Speaker 1: Philadelphia ran It's like that would be reasonable. I'm just saying, though,
Speaker 1: is you know the way that when we ask the
Speaker 1: coach about him, the coach kind of gives you, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah. I mean it's not like I was
Speaker 1: getting closer. We hope to have him back this, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean our office is overlooking practice field, you know,
Speaker 1: I see I see I see Austin out there, I
Speaker 1: see Sean Lee out there, I see Sue Philo out there,
Speaker 1: I see Smith out there. I see all these guys
Speaker 1: out there. And we're in Fresco now, so we don't
Speaker 1: see irving anymore. Yeah, yeah, Joe, drop for that. Go
Speaker 1: take care of your grandkids, all right. That. In fact,
Speaker 1: we're leaving the hospital and headed home about noon today.
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what I'll do, or else I'll
Speaker 1: finish putting up Christmas lights. Are you? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you the driver? I think they've got a desciminated drive.
Speaker 1: Thank god, he's gonna call uber. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 1: let's see it tomorrow. I'm talking boy. This has been
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