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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to another

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Speaker 1: week of Talking Cowboys. After a holiday weekend, and after

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys victory over the Redskins on Thursday, this is

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Speaker 1: a victory Monday. That's actually a victory Thursday around here, right,

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Speaker 1: it's actually Thursday at you got your days straight exactly

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Speaker 1: exactly right, because the New Orleans Saints are fast approaching

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Speaker 1: on this Thursday. To follow up Bill Jones's Rob Phillips, Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: how was your weekend? Everybody? Have we not done this

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Speaker 1: for a week. It's been a while, hadn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Whence the last time we did our show, y'all did

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Speaker 1: one Wednesday that I wasn't a part of, right faith,

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Speaker 1: that was the last one. So it's been a week

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Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, yeahs I do miss you know, it's

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Speaker 1: longer because you missed because Beltrey, I try. It's been

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Speaker 1: a full week. It has because I maybe Beltrey retired

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Speaker 1: sports stuff is get involved with our talk here. Huh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So but how about them Cowboys? Yeah, nice victory,

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Speaker 1: really nice victory, you know, and it sets you up

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Speaker 1: for this week. You know, you just this is one

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Speaker 1: of those things. It's you have to find a way now.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're at the point of the season where

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Speaker 1: you know, you just have to find ways to win

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Speaker 1: these games. It's a banged up football team. You're playing

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Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're a complete team. That's just not a

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Speaker 1: that's not a one trick pony, as they say. They've

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Speaker 1: got a pretty good defense too to go along with

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Speaker 1: their offense, so present a lot of different challenges. So

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Speaker 1: that's it's time of year for that. There's no time

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Speaker 1: to patch yourself on the back, is there. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's there's not a ten day break after Thanksgiving. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you're about to face a team that's

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Speaker 1: won ten straight football showing up this week. No, yah, neither,

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Speaker 1: it's Texas Tech right, Nope, they struggled down the stretch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're staying topical. I guess. Yeah, they made a coaching

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Speaker 1: change up in Lubbock. There's uh yeah, there's ways to

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Speaker 1: win these games, and you just got to figure it

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Speaker 1: out and and see, you know this is a good

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Speaker 1: credential check right now. Well, and then you sort things

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Speaker 1: out after Thanksgiving weekend in the in the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: you got the Cowboys and the Redskins at six and five,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles come from a nineteen to three whole

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Speaker 1: yesterday to beat the Giants and they're sitting there at

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Speaker 1: five and six. I mean I saw that score in

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Speaker 1: nineteen to three and I in the first half yesterday. Well,

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Speaker 1: well the Eagles have given up on their season and

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Speaker 1: they came back and win. And then you look at

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Speaker 1: the standings and they're a game out of first place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, come in here, yeah next week exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they've got a Monday night tilt. I beleeve with

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Speaker 1: the Redskins before that, so we'll see how that all plays.

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Speaker 1: But they start bunching up in the NFC, by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, you look at the wild card Seattle Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Both teams you've lost two are both six and five.

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Speaker 1: You've got four teams six and five, one six, four

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Speaker 1: they said on NBC they had some kind of math

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Speaker 1: percent chance to get in now, and Minnesota's got like

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Speaker 1: a seventy three percent chance. I stand that stuff. Who

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Speaker 1: figures this out? Well? And then of course in the

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Speaker 1: game you get stats that say, well, now the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have a seventy three percent chance of winning this game.

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Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought that college station the other

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Speaker 1: night too. I mean me too, me too. Three weeks

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Speaker 1: ago or three games ago, the Cowboys had like an

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Speaker 1: eight percent chance of making the playoffs. Now it's sixty

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Speaker 1: four percent of all analytics? What what? What? What? What

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Speaker 1: are god? Y'all sound like you're from the dark ages?

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Speaker 1: Why would you believe it? But did you believe the

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Speaker 1: eight percent? It's based on math. Yeah, it's based on

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Speaker 1: the other teams that have done it before. Well then

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Speaker 1: these aren't other teams, though, this is this is different? Right, Hiking?

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Speaker 1: How being wrong? Hik Harrison? How is your way? It

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Speaker 1: was wonderful? How ya Okay was trying to in a

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Speaker 1: way make his point that was a big game, big swing.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got some teams fighting to get in the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys again, I think they're still in the same boat

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Speaker 1: they've been in. They need to win their division. Just

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Speaker 1: take care of business. Here, into your home and get

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Speaker 1: Caroline has lost three straight now, but they still have

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Speaker 1: Speaking of these analytics, what was the Aggie's chance of

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Speaker 1: winning that game against LSU went on the fourth and

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Speaker 1: eighteen past play the yard shore of the first down.

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Speaker 1: It's just I think, yeah, you just gave him an opening.

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Speaker 1: You know I had that one ready. Sorry, Brian, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Texas Satan played well in the overtime period they played.

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Speaker 1: They played much better than LSU. Did they really? Did

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Speaker 1: you know that one played better? That was one two

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Speaker 1: point conversion better? One played better one one? What were

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Speaker 1: you waving your golden purple flag for one on here?

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Speaker 1: I just liked things to be honest, okay and act. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there was no got it, there was no accuracy in

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Speaker 1: that game. Okay. It was a great game, and I graduate,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. I was gonna wear my white hat today.

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Speaker 1: That was that was a great game, But if it

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Speaker 1: was a Big twelve game, it was, how come these

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Speaker 1: teams can't play any defense? That's right, That's true, true, true.

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Speaker 1: There was no defense involved there at the very end,

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Speaker 1: for sure. But now speaking of defense, you better be

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Speaker 1: you bet to play defense this week against the team

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Speaker 1: a team and I'm not saying something you folks already

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Speaker 1: don't know out there. This is a team that stretches

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Speaker 1: you horizontally to make plays vertically right, which is they

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Speaker 1: create a ton of space. And the way they they

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Speaker 1: operate their routes, the way they're offensively, this is this

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Speaker 1: play this one right here. They got it. They've got

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Speaker 1: They're running backs run hard, their receivers do a great job,

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Get ready. They stretch, You

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Speaker 1: guys you never heard of. Yeah, they do that. That's

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Speaker 1: has that ever happened? What we saw on Thanksgiving with

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Speaker 1: about you know, Cam Fleming playing the other day for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: performances from people that are unique. Sure, but that that

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Speaker 1: she goes to show you though, the scheme that they

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Speaker 1: They still that quarterback though. Yeah, no I'm saying I'm

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Speaker 1: just him on an island. Like they sacrifice Chaz Green

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Speaker 1: for the coaching staff for that ability to make that

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Speaker 1: it that ultimately makes the call on Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: over on Rogers. You know, they never I mean, Rogers

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Speaker 1: started killing him in the overtime period, and Dave Randa's

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Speaker 1: And he never got to that until it was way

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Speaker 1: I've got to have this guy some help. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him not perform at a level that is acceptable.

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Speaker 1: I need him to have some help. And to Mickey's point,

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Speaker 1: Cam Fleming told us he walked in after warm ups

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Speaker 1: I finally got on this morning. I just want to

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Speaker 1: say the game Thursday was great. I loved it. Dak

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Speaker 1: played the awesome game. I do know that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I heard a lot of rumors last year that Dak

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Speaker 1: would see what Dak was basically without Zeke and everything else,

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Speaker 1: would they If you go back in the nineties, Troy

431
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Speaker 1: wasn't that good either. You know, Emmett set out two

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Speaker 1: games they lost to two games. So it's not just basically,

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Speaker 1: you know, a quarterback can't be good without a running

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Speaker 1: back because you got to have both of them and

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Speaker 1: I think Dak is playing awesome. Thank you well, thank

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Speaker 1: you Sure. How about Dak's performance on Thursday. You can't

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Speaker 1: beat it when you make plays right. She's playing with

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Speaker 1: a lot of confidence right now. Yeah, he is a

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Speaker 1: third down it's been so much better for him. He's

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Speaker 1: actually got guys that get open, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a big help. You look at what happened early

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Speaker 1: in that football game. What do you do go out

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Speaker 1: to Maury Cooper? You know, you throw the ball with

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Speaker 1: a guiding separate and not have to make a bunch

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Speaker 1: of tight window throws. Those are those are Those are

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Speaker 1: the kind you want where just you and the receiver

447
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Speaker 1: are playing pitch and catch, not with some quality defensive

448
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Speaker 1: back hanging on a guy trying to make it a throw,

449
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: you know, two inches here or two inches there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: good for him. He's got a guy can throw the

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Speaker 1: football to first and second down have been a lot better.

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Speaker 1: Zeke's running continues to run really well. That's help. That

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Speaker 1: helps stack out. We keep talking about the down and distance.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge factor. He is playing more confident. I

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Speaker 1: think he just seems more comfortable back there. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a perfect first half by any stretch and they you know,

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Speaker 1: they miss an opportunity in the red zone again and

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here we go again. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a trust factor with a Maury Cooper right off

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Speaker 1: the bat, I think, and it's kind of speaks away.

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Speaker 1: Brian said, he just trusts this guy's going to get

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Speaker 1: open and separate, and he is. And the main thing

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Speaker 1: is his run after catchability. The guy's at home run threat.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if they've had that since Dez was,

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Speaker 1: you know, really in his prime. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: his drops, you know at Oakland where we were talking

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Speaker 1: about when he was doing just what he was doing,

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Speaker 1: taking the football and trying to get north south quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's when you know, there's a couple of concentration ones.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people are like, he drops the ball

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Speaker 1: all the time. No, he drops the ball because he's

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Speaker 1: trying to just run. He's trying to take a twelve

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Speaker 1: yard game and make it a ninety yard game. That's why,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's what football players do. That's what

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Speaker 1: great football players do, and that's what started to get

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Speaker 1: Des in trouble. Yeah, trying to run before he could

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Speaker 1: be catch the ball and his son and oh that's

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Speaker 1: a drop, okay, but let's read into it. What are

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Speaker 1: you what are you doing exactly? You know, he said

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Speaker 1: something interesting Amari did a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy, like he's quiet, but he'll give

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Speaker 1: you some real insight. You know. I just thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting the way he put it. He said, my

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Speaker 1: job as a receiver is to get as open as

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Speaker 1: humanly possible with my routes. So Dak just has to

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Speaker 1: throw it somewhere within the vicinity of my route and

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Speaker 1: I'll go get it. And it was a simple statement,

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Speaker 1: but it really speaks to just how precise he is

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Speaker 1: as a route runner. You know. I think he's very

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Speaker 1: he takes that very seriously. And you see these routes

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Speaker 1: that he's running. Yeah, they're big plays, but he's also

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Speaker 1: putting in himself in a spot where Dak just has

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Speaker 1: to get it. He runs routes I've and I was

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Speaker 1: trying in my head and I wrote about this for

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Speaker 1: or after the post game from the scouts. Scouts, I

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Speaker 1: he does something in his route I have never seen

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Speaker 1: other receivers do, and it's his ability to he can

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Speaker 1: he could drive a guy off, but if he's but

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Speaker 1: if he's going to have to break, he almost turns

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Speaker 1: his not almost, he turns his body sideways to where

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Speaker 1: most guys will have to go and then settle their

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Speaker 1: weight and then plant and go. He could run and

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Speaker 1: turn him self sideways and whichever direction he wants to go,

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Speaker 1: so he opens up to the side he's going to

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Speaker 1: break too, or if he's going to break the route

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Speaker 1: inside or out, he just turns his body that way

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Speaker 1: and instead of having to stop and then break. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can watch him. It's I'll show you

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Speaker 1: guys on tape one day if you want to come

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Speaker 1: and see it. But he'll run and he'll just turn

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Speaker 1: and the defensive back still thinks he's going forward, and

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Speaker 1: then he's right into his break because his hips already

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Speaker 1: opened up to where he could plant and go where

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Speaker 1: he needs to go, and that buys him a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. I mean, that's why he was able, you know.

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Speaker 1: You you look at the what he was able to

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Speaker 1: do against the Redskins, you know, against their cornerbacks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and he's done it a couple of different times. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's a technique thing. You talk about pride and

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Speaker 1: route running and all that. Boy, he's just got really

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Speaker 1: good technique. It helps gives him much more ability to

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Speaker 1: get opened faster than it does like the normal guy

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Speaker 1: that has to run, chop his steps, settle his weight

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Speaker 1: and then plant and go. So if you look out,

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Speaker 1: I forgot which touchdown it was the dB fell down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he didn't fall down because he had bad footing. He

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Speaker 1: fell down just because of what Brian said. His route

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00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: was so good. The dB couldn't turn away. He turned.

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Speaker 1: He had him going out and when he tried to

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Speaker 1: go back in he slipped and fell. It was the route.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the guy falling. He got separation on Josh Norman,

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Speaker 1: which is not easy. Now Josh Norman isn't Carolina Panther

533
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Speaker 1: Josh Norman anymore, but Josh Norman is a guy that

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Speaker 1: usually can stay with and it is really good at

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Speaker 1: reading routes. Murray had him a little had him a

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Speaker 1: little bit playing on his heels, and I think that's where,

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Speaker 1: like I say, I'll show you guys one time if

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Speaker 1: you want to see the way he's kind of able

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Speaker 1: just to open his hips and still maintain speed and

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Speaker 1: then get inside or get outside. Just because of the

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Speaker 1: way his positions his body. You know. That was one

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Speaker 1: of the drills Sanjay had him doing in training camp

543
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Speaker 1: and I was, I was like, what are they doing?

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Speaker 1: Because he was he was trying to teach them how

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Speaker 1: to sink their hips right when they turn, and so

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Speaker 1: he was making them put their hand on the ground right,

547
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Speaker 1: And I go, that's not the way you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: that in the game, is it? And he goes no,

549
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: But he goes the idea is to get them to

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Speaker 1: feel how to sink your hips. And you put your

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Speaker 1: hand on the ground. You have to sink your hips

552
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Speaker 1: when you're gonna make your break. And he doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to put his hand. He understands, Yeah, to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that. It's rare when you have a receiver

555
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: that can run routes at the same speed and never change.

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Speaker 1: Miles Auston Jason Garrett was Miles Austin had that ability

557
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Speaker 1: to run routes at the same speed. If he was

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: running at you, he could run his route at the

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Speaker 1: same speed, make that cut and not have to settle weight.

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Speaker 1: That's where defensive backs understand when they're watching and they're

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Speaker 1: playing you, they see you start to set to sink

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Speaker 1: and once they see sink, then that's the that's their

563
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: queue to drive or to them for them to sink

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Speaker 1: and then go with you. I think you find great

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Speaker 1: running backs are able to do that. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: fast the fast running backs and in fact, yeah, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what's interesting. There was something about Felix Jones

568
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Speaker 1: and that when he made cuts whatever, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then I think he got hurt later, you know, and

570
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: so he busted as an NFL player, but when he

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Speaker 1: came into the league he had that on a break

572
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: where and similar type. Well, what you're talking about, I

573
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: think right now, it's it's it's the way these receivers

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Speaker 1: get separation now and the really good ones have the

575
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Speaker 1: ability to sell where they're going or sell on a

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Speaker 1: different idea and not give you a read. And Josh Norman,

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Norman is one of the best ever played.

578
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: And Amari Cooper had him guessing, you know, guessing, hesitating,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you have mean you get that, you

580
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: get that hesitation, then you get the separation. And he's

581
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of the unwide receiver when it comes to his personality.

582
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Rob's right, he doesn't say a heck of a lot.

583
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: But when he says something you ought to pay attention,

584
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: which made me think which touchdown celebration was more surprising

585
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Speaker 1: because his I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think he

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Speaker 1: had a free throw. Seriously, Well, it wasn't just a

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00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: fine go ahead. It was the Marquelle faults um, which

588
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I feel but yeah, the juggle things. I feel bad

589
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, faults because if you've watched the NBA,

590
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: he's really struggling. He's got like a mental block with

591
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Speaker 1: his jump shot and somebody has told him to just

592
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Speaker 1: juggle it like this to get your mind off your

593
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: form and then just put it up. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's working or not, but my son

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Speaker 1: unique Yea Benes, that was a great celebration that Amara had.

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Speaker 1: And I said, he just shot a free throw? What's that?

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Speaker 1: Was my take? He goes, he was was trolling faults

598
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: what he was doing? And I go, what do you mean?

599
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: He goes, if you ever watched faults shot free throw?

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00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: He goes, he juggles the ball now, and I go, oh,

601
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: that's what that was. We got to watch. I think, yeah, yeah,

602
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: this is this is like a Chuck Nabler kind of thing.

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00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: With this young player for Philly, the sixers, like he's

604
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: been missing them all. He's he's he has this hitch

605
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: in his shot, like he can't. He's almost it's almost

606
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: like he's forgotten. And maybe he got too he's got yips.

607
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, this fult to knowledge it on that. Yeah,

608
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: he took it and stride. It was these free throw shooters,

609
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: it's simple. All you gotta do. You bounced it three times,

610
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: you've been your knees and you shoot. That's it. But

611
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: that's what you could have made a lot of money.

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00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: That's how. That's how former Dallas Chaparral since he pal

613
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: taught me as an eight year old, Well he should

614
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: have got a hold of Shack then that he should have.

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00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I wish I could have got a hold of Shack.

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: I could have been a lot of Lebron, a bad

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00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: free throw shooter. He's okay, he's okay. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: Lebron had some troll. Shack had he would change his

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Speaker 1: his You gotta stay in rhythm, horror, that's what. That's

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: why you dribble three times and then you shoot. You

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Speaker 1: you're in rhythm. It's like a three point shooter. You

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00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be in rhythm to shoot. How strong do

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Speaker 1: you think Zeke is that he picked Dak up. Deck's

624
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: not light. No, by the way, No, he's too forty.

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I kind of wish he wouldn't have picked him up.

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00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that that was That was a That

627
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: was a that was an untime was an important coverage.

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00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: The coverage was not great either though that that. I

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Speaker 1: went back and watched that, and there was a couple

630
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: of guys got out of their lane badly on that play.

631
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: On the way I mean when they they took the

632
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: ball right up the middle and it kind of sucked

633
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: everybody in and then when they bounced it, there was

634
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: nobody on the outside other than you know, Rod Smith

635
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: is not fast enough to to take a you know,

636
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: to take a returner like that. And then luckily Jeff

637
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Heath playing safety did his job. But that's that was

638
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Speaker 1: a bad That was a bad situation. That ball was

639
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: only kicked to the eleven and then I think about

640
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: the penalty, you know, not a good situation. One more

641
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: thing on the Mari celebration, The best part of that

642
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: was the offensive lineman standing on each side like going

643
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: for a rebound and Joe Looney. If that was a

644
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: basketball game, he would have in lane. Oh he was yeah,

645
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: he was bent way. Oh he had his foot over

646
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: the line. But I don't know that was good. They

647
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: don't call that anymore, do they. No, they don't. They don't.

648
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: Pretty good, not as good as the limbo last night

649
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: with Minnesota. That was that. That was good. That might

650
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: take the kid. Okay, we got all these celebrations go on.

651
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota does some good ones. Did they do bob sled

652
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: one time? Did they? Then they were all like they

653
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: were in a bob slid during the Winter Olympics. It

654
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: was pretty Minnesota comes up with some creative ones that

655
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: watch are all with going into the Salvation army kettle.

656
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: If we're gonna do the bob sled and we're gonna

657
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: do the free thrill, we're gonna do all this other

658
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: stuff with an imaginary I have no idea or getting

659
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: twenty one dollars handed to you. Yeah, if you're that's like,

660
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If you're if you're Jason Garrett,

661
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: do you ask that the kettles be removed from the field?

662
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, all you gotta do. You don't have to

663
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: run from the kettle you don't have to remove them

664
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: from the field, but you could put them on the sideline. Yeah,

665
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: so people can run into them. No, so you could

666
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: do it. You go to the Cowboys sideline and then

667
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: you're the can and now you're not. So technically if

668
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: they just moved him around the corner, yeah, then or

669
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: you could keep him. You could keep those prominently displayed

670
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: and get additional ones on the sideline. Well, guess the

671
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys sideline. I why, yeah, no, kiddy, the show is

672
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: a false alarm. So when I was headed to the

673
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: locker room, Jerry was Jerry was leaving, and I said,

674
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you might want to put those

675
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: those kettles up on a stand. Yeah, the players can't

676
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: get to him. And he looked at me, he goes,

677
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: why would I do that? You know? Did you see

678
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: how much attention that drew for the Salvation Army? But

679
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't like the But then but then he prefers

680
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: it going. He goes, as long as it turns out

681
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: the way it did. Yeah, we had a family discussion

682
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: about this, and my daughters and wife were saying, well,

683
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's doing so much good for the Salvation Army.

684
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: You got to keep doing it. I said, no, it's penalty.

685
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: So it is if you have a fifteen yard penalty.

686
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: And I'm all for jumping in the cut. I'm all

687
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: for changing the rule. And what's the make it like

688
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: the Lambeau leap. What's the difference between the two. That's

689
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think you call the league and say, look,

690
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: we're raising X amount of dollars for this wonderful cause. Right,

691
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: just let it go, right, I mean seriously, for a

692
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: month out of the year. How Jason answered it? Finally

693
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: was it the next day when he or no, was

694
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: that game? He said, no, was it was at the

695
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: game and he said yeah. He goes, you know, we're

696
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: gonna have to be careful, and then he goes, and

697
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: then maybe the NFL needs to rethink things exactly. He said, yes, yes,

698
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: he said it. He said. I asked him about it

699
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: on the Jason Garrett Show after the game, and he said,

700
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: you need to start a letter writing campaign to the

701
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: NFL to get this rule change, because what do they

702
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: used to call it the no fun League? Right? And

703
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: so now you got all these cool celebrations, but you

704
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: can't go some goofy whatever, go ahead, but you can't.

705
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: But you but you can't do it in the name

706
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: of charity. That's come on, let's let's just realize what

707
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: we're doing here. You know, jumping a kettle jumping stands

708
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: was the difference. Well, that was grandfathered in, wasn't it.

709
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: And I was there for the first one. The first

710
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: one who didn't it was Leroy Butler. He was He

711
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: got a interception, Reggie White recovered a fumble. He pitched

712
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: at Leroy Butler. Leroy Butler ran at the rest of

713
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: the way. Adamska se La La Raiders nineteen ninety four

714
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: jumped in the stands twenty into nothing first lambo leap, Wow,

715
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: standing right there? Cool? But yeah, it was grandfathered in.

716
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's not really grandfathered in. It's fathered

717
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: in because because now everybody else, everybody else is doing it. Now,

718
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: if you got it stands, you can jump into everybody's

719
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: doing it. And that's not for charity. I just think

720
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: if you're doing a limbo like last night, which was awesome,

721
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: you can jump in a kettle. Give me a brand ex.

722
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like mascot humor. You know,

723
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: It's like if you're if we're gonna get crazy with

724
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, that's not that crazy. Just jumping in

725
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: a kettle for a second. Not a big deal, Not

726
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: a big deal, all right, Tony in Atlanta, You're next

727
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: up on Talking and Cowboys than guys. Good morning, Good morning.

728
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I know everybody's doing well, thank you. So here's my

729
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: my concerned kind of question. Um, the last couple of games,

730
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten up by double digits at Atlanta

731
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: and next thing you know, they roared back and tie

732
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: the game and we had to kick a field goal late.

733
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: And then Washington, you know, we got up double digits

734
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: and you know, they came back and made things a

735
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: little uneasy. Just from what you all are seeing, are

736
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: they is the defense loosening or these offenses just kind

737
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: of turning up the voltage, you know, and we're not adjusting,

738
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, to them. I'm just kind of concerned, you

739
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not thinking we're gonna get

740
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: up by ten on Thursday, but you know, I'm just

741
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of concerned with you know, when they get up,

742
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, double digits, you know that they're not you know,

743
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: putting the foot on the gas and putting these teams away,

744
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: they letting them back in and making things uneasy. Thanks, well,

745
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: they got back in because of the kettle, yeah, and

746
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: not covering the kick properly, right, And that made it

747
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty with eleven forty three left in the

748
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: fourth and then the Cowboys came up with an interception

749
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: on the next Washington possession. Right. So it's a fair question. Actually,

750
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: it took care of six minutes of the clock in

751
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Yeah, yeah, you know, but it is

752
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: a fair question. I always we all do. This is

753
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: stupid for me to say, but we all feel better

754
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: about this defense when they have a double digit lead,

755
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It seems like that's why

756
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: we were so concerned about, you know, missing field goals

757
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and stuff like that. I was sitting there going,

758
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I was telling Nana, go get this

759
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: thing to double digits. They got a chance to win.

760
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: You know, Dallas offensively, like you said, Bill can take

761
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: time off the clock running the football, so you can

762
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: protect a lead a little bit better. They're accustomed to

763
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: play in that way and keep you keep your best

764
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: player involved. Yes, yeah, yeah, But I just think there's

765
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: some teams that you know, hey, I didn't expect to know, No,

766
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz moving to football. That's different than than Colt

767
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: McCoy moving the football. Know, Carson Wentz, I expect him

768
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: to move the football, I really do. I mean, with

769
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: that tight end and receivers they got in the quarterback,

770
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: the way he throws the ball. But you know, I

771
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan as well, Matt Ryan as well, I

772
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: think you're just you know, you're talking about guys that

773
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: are that's their job. I mean, Drew Brees this coming Thursday,

774
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: the flat. I'm sure somebody in Washington, or and Philly

775
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: were going, well, you know, or Atlanta were going, well, god,

776
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: how does Dak Prescott move the ball? I mean, you know,

777
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: they probably didn't see that one coming, but you know,

778
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: good for him. I just think defensively, they they they

779
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: put themselves in the position and make some plays like

780
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Mickey was asking the other day or today, and and

781
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: they just haven't really followed through you know, some of

782
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: the you know, like they needed to, you know, getting

783
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: that key sacked, sack strip something to kind of turn

784
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: the game around, you know, to keep people from driving

785
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: in on them, you know, in a little bit in

786
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when you have a double digit lead,

787
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: you're also playing defense against the clock. Yeah, you don't

788
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: want to give up anything big, keep them in. Well

789
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: that in the Atlantic game, Atlanta game, you didn't have

790
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: enough defensive lineman. That that that hurts you a lot. True,

791
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: that hurts you. I felt like it hurts you a

792
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: lot in that game. How about to run defense in

793
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: this game against the Redskins. Yeah, that's see, that's that's

794
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: what you got to do, because you know, the Redskins

795
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: want to play the same way you do. They want

796
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: to run and play play action and throw the ball

797
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: down the field if they can. But I mean the

798
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: first time around they ran for one hundred thirty Yeah exactly.

799
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Peter said, had very little room to run most of

800
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah that was second time. That's exactly. They

801
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: were actually punishing him. Yeah, well you need to be

802
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: whatever that run defense was needed to bring it yeah

803
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Speaker 1: Did Jack Black have a Black Friday. It was Jack

868
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Black Friday. Yes, so many dad jokes on this show.

869
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: It's incredible. By the way, as your dad ever responded.

870
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: He finally got back to me at like four o'clock. Yester.

871
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: Rob had a tweet your dad with LSU or he's

872
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: an LSU fan with LSU and tweet what did you say? What?

873
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: I texted him at like eleven fifty two PM right

874
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: after the game ended. I just an amazing game. Heard

875
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: back from him at like four thirty the next day.

876
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: Just he just ignored me. He just laid out on

877
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: me for an entire day. Even Brian came in the

878
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: next yesterday morning for practice and was just like, hey,

879
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: congratulations Tip. Some terrible calls, terrible calls, but you know

880
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: you guys, guys are well that's like me my father

881
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: with d A and M, you know, and and he's

882
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: trying to like be all nice to me, and I'm like,

883
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: I've got to go to work. I'll talk to you later.

884
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to deal with that. We have congratulations

885
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: drop first time in eight years, you know, the backhand,

886
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: but hey, I appreciate it, appreciate it might have been

887
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: the first time if that happened to me to tell

888
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: my dad the shutdown. College football brings that out in people.

889
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of passion you have. You

890
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: have a you have a sweat equity. It's lawyers five years,

891
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: eight years, it's money, it's you know, it's where you

892
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: grew up. Can't where did you graduate from? He is trolling.

893
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: He's an Aggie, a pure blood Aggie. Yeah, you went

894
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: to school. Where's your degree from? I had a film

895
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: degree and they don't offer that at A and M.

896
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Where's your film degree from? TCUs? Oh? I see, thank

897
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: you very much. Man. His heart is in college. You

898
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: have to go to the school to be able to

899
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: for them. Just be careful. We all have some songs.

900
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: We play them again. Notre Dame is the king of

901
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: people that are fans that never went there. How about

902
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: that that place? People will remind you Notre Dame there?

903
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: If your name right now, I'm like, you didn't even

904
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: go to school there, You don't even where. If you're Catholic,

905
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: you qualify, you can go, you can root for Holy

906
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Cross is available to My dad didn't like Notre Dame

907
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: right one years. I can't remember who beat him, and

908
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: somebody beat him, and my dad goes to confession on

909
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: Saturday and basically in the confessional booth he gives the

910
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: priest a jab notre dame losing right. Eddie comes out

911
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: and starts telling us about it. My mother's going, oh

912
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: jes making the sign of the cross. And you told

913
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: the priest that my dad goes He's just a man.

914
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm just a man. My name is Fred. So if

915
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: you know where I get my stuff from, it's the Jeans.

916
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: There you go. Here we go. All right, let's go

917
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: to Louisiana. Let's check with Ray Ray. Are you an

918
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: LSU fan? Hello? Ray, Good morning guys. How a y'all?

919
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. Sure, but don't worry about

920
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: getting a call from Louisiana because I'm an American by

921
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: birth but detecting by the grace of God. All right,

922
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: here we go. So I got three things, go on asking,

923
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: I'll hang up. Let's see, I'll talk. As the beginning

924
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: of the year, they said that Jayal Smith was only

925
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: about eighty five percent. I wandered his head at one

926
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: hundred percent yet or we have to look for more

927
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: coming next year. On Joe Looney, with the way he's

928
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: played this year. I think he's on the one year deal.

929
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: He think we'll be able to sign him to keep

930
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: him as a backup or do you think he'll move

931
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: on to another team? And as far as the game

932
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: goes Thursday night, I'm gonna go with what Mickey always says,

933
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: every time you win a game that much closer to

934
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: losing one. I don't think the Saint to play the

935
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: defense as solid as we have, and I think they'll

936
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: lose that game thirty one to twenty four. Okay, you

937
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: got have a good day, thank you? All right? Yeah,

938
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: someone who agrees with Micky, he loves that way. You'll

939
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: have a sale may at the Santis. That's right about

940
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. How close is he to one? I think

941
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the best of Jalen Smith yet. I

942
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: think Jayalen Smith is only going to get better. I

943
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: really do. And this is a complete one eighty from

944
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: where I was three years ago. And to his credit,

945
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I've said it a bunch, but the doctors, the trainers,

946
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about this was the year to kind

947
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: of take a peek at Jalen Smith, and my guy,

948
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith looks a lot better. I think that he's

949
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, you can see the change of direction, you

950
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: can see the lateral mobility, you could see the forward stuff.

951
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: We've always seen that. You've seen the ability to cover,

952
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: You've seen the ability to run, you've seen ability to blitz.

953
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: I just think he's going to get even a better

954
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: feel for how to play defense. And I think that,

955
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's a lot like Layton Vanderish as they're

956
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: both young, and they're both really smart, and they both

957
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: get it. They both understand, Okay, prepare, study, and now

958
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: go perform. And you know he's gonna he's gonna continue

959
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: to grow in his instincts as he's growing in his health. Yeah,

960
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: I think he continues to grow in his instincts, and

961
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: I think that's where you're going to see the best

962
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: of Jalen Smith. I don't know they're gonna need him

963
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: in this game, for sure, Oh for sure. I don't

964
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: know if we talk enough about that. The fact that

965
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: this is his second year, yeah, you know, and he's

966
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: been here three years now, but last year was his

967
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: first time on the field, and just the more he sees,

968
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the more comfortable he's going to be out there. You

969
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: see it with Layton too, just as the more snaps

970
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: he gets, the better he gets. And and yeah, Jalen,

971
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: I think everybody's so focused on his physical recovery last

972
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: year that nobody really talked about just, I don't know,

973
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: getting back into football and reading reading things out there.

974
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's he's growing week to week two thanks

975
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: for Joe Looney. He's under contract next year. Yeah, yeah,

976
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: he would not be a free agent till twenty. I

977
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: think Joe Looney is doing a very good job as

978
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: a backup, and I think that's probably what he is.

979
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: So he's got two thousand nineteen. He's under contract, right, Yeah, Okay,

980
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: so he's not a free agent. You got that on

981
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: there line and you really don't worry about that as much.

982
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: He's not thirty, he's twilight. But see, you know, and

983
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: has anybody heard any whispers about Travis Frederick and next year?

984
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Next year? Next year? I've had people tell because I've

985
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: kind of in my mind, I'm thinking about the draft

986
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: show and what I direction on what we needed. Do

987
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: we need to talk about a center? Do we need?

988
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to add. Someone come up to

989
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: me and say it felt like that, and I'm hopeful

990
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in people's mouth or but this

991
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: guy trust told me. He says there's a really good

992
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: chance to Travis Frederick plays. Because I'm thinking, well, you

993
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: have to look at the center. I gotta find a center.

994
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: I gotta look at somebody. And I don't know how.

995
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that's right, you know what. I

996
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: hope that's right. But to what you're thinking. Was my

997
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: thinking on it was, I've got to have a center

998
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: that would at least challenge Looney, yes, for the backup job, right,

999
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then maybe he's good enough.

1000
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: If indeed, if they get in a in a bind,

1001
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: they can start. I don't think that's wrong to spend

1002
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick center. Yeah. I don't think that's

1003
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: out of the question. They traded for Arringer right before

1004
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: the season started to can he play center for you?

1005
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: Or is he guard? Yeah? Yeah, ok, yeah, he's on

1006
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: I R right now and Redman right now as you're

1007
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: a backup center guard type guy. But I couldn't remember that. Rob.

1008
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: I was like, he's been on our the whole year. Yeah, right,

1009
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: he got hurt the first day was here. Yeah, that's

1010
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: why they brought Yeah, yeah, I think with Travis and

1011
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: by the way, practiced, so he's out of the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1012
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: And by the way, there at least yesterday they were

1013
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: they were numbers wise, not very deep on the offensive line. No,

1014
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: the guys that were playing scout team were also you're

1015
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: starting with the exception of the center and the right tackle.

1016
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, well, they didn't have enough guys to

1017
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: have two lines when they practiced. When we saw Zach

1018
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Is dealing with that knee, and um, we were watching

1019
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: them all work on the grass field. That's good. They

1020
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: were working. What happened to Sulphilo in the game, you

1021
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: got rolled up on Denny ankle. Okay, so and then

1022
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: we'll see what we'll see on Tying. One thing I

1023
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: was gonna say about Travis is I don't I haven't heard.

1024
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they know. They don't know the deadline

1025
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: or timeline for a return. But we were just talking

1026
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: about Jalen. This is a much more serious thing than

1027
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: Jalen's knee. Obviously, this is a this is an autoimmune illness,

1028
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's maybe similar in one respect

1029
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: and that it's a it's kind of a nerve situation

1030
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: and you don't know when, but you're just hoping that,

1031
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, it gets to the point where everything starts

1032
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: firing again, and that's that's where they're at. And it's

1033
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: first off, his quality of life that's the most important.

1034
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, I was just I was surprised with

1035
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: again because I was trying to in my mind thinking, Okay,

1036
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: when we do the start this draft show here in

1037
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: another six weeks or so, do we do we have

1038
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: to start talking about positional like centers. And the guy's like, well,

1039
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, what Mickey said makes a lot of sense.

1040
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: But I mean you're thinking about oh, second round center,

1041
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: third round center. I mean, but you know, I mean,

1042
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: what if I can find somebody that's upgrade for my

1043
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: backup game day a guard center? Maybe Redman is that guy,

1044
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: and maybe is maybe Redman's a guy because yeah, maybe

1045
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: they just you know, they work with Redman and that's

1046
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: the way they go. What about thirty one twenty four?

1047
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: I as good as his defense has been, to think

1048
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: that they're gonna hold them under thirty that would be

1049
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: an amazing accomplishment if they can do that. I mean,

1050
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: this is I think they're thirty seven point two for

1051
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: the season. New Orleans, now, we've we've seen them face

1052
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: the Saints before and it's kind of a similar situation.

1053
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Speaker 1: They went out there in two thousand and nine, they

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Speaker 1: were thirteen to o. They were putting up close to

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Speaker 1: forty points a game, and nobody thought they were going

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Speaker 1: to do that. So you can't say they can't do it.

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be at New Orleans. Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an awfully big challenge, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at a Saints team that has starting a

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Speaker 1: month ago October twenty eighth, at Minnesota, won thirty to

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Speaker 1: twenty against a good Vikings defense. Yeah, against a good

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Speaker 1: Rams defense. It was forty five thirty five. At the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: it was fifty one to fourteen. Against the Eagles it

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Speaker 1: was forty eight to seven, and then against the Falcons

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Speaker 1: thirty one seventeen. So that's how they're playing most recently,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I went back and they watched those

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Speaker 1: Minnesota game. In Minnesota game and then watched the Atlanta game.

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Speaker 1: It's like those teams are driving the ball and are

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Speaker 1: fumbling like in the red zone, right, They're they're just

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what happened to Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. They they're they're driving the football

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Speaker 1: and Julio Jones is like making one of those violent

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Speaker 1: runs through the middle of their defense and all a

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Speaker 1: sudden he tries to jump over somebody gets hit, ball

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Speaker 1: goes flying out and instead of having the ball on

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Speaker 1: the you know, the fourteen yard line, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's New Orleans, ball going the other way and they're

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Speaker 1: trying to score right before half and you're like going,

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Speaker 1: my gosh. And you know, the same thing happened in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: They they create turnovers. I mean, this team, somehow they

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Speaker 1: create turnovers. So you know, there used to be a

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Speaker 1: time where this whole, this New Orleans team was it

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Speaker 1: was all about Drew Brees. It's not that way anymore.

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Speaker 1: Draft picks and yeah, they they've got their Their defense

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Speaker 1: is legitimate. I mean they went out and and adding

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Speaker 1: Eli Apple at corner is was not Yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: That's a great move for them. But you know, I say,

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Speaker 1: if you can hold them, if Dawaski keeps us into

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Speaker 1: a twenty eight point game, Dallas got a great shot

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Speaker 1: at winning for sure, game for sure, and that's not impossible.

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Speaker 1: I think they can move the ball in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I mean from what I've seen, and that as that

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Speaker 1: great philosopher said, the more you win, the closer y

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Speaker 1: are to lose. And what a great philosopher that guy

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Speaker 1: must have been. So you'd be nice to have David

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Speaker 1: Irving back in this game. And I know there's no

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Speaker 1: indication he's close, but I'm just saying a guy makes

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Speaker 1: you say that because he's six seven with long arms,

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Speaker 1: I get it. What made you say that he had

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Speaker 1: nice having David Irving back. I'm just saying it would

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Speaker 1: be nice to get him back for this game to

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Speaker 1: try to collapse the pocket but Jones to take the

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Speaker 1: headset off and just start banging your head on the table,

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Speaker 1: just like that. Of having David Irving back for this game,

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Speaker 1: or two tall Jones tall, at least you might give

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Speaker 1: Ryan Ramchick a little trouble out there to tackle him. Okay, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think I'm just I'm like I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe with Flower Mount, you know, I'm I'm I'm mad

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Speaker 1: because what's frustrating around? Yeah, It's like it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's high ankle sprain, Brian, it takes six to

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Speaker 1: eight weeks high ankle sprain. Hi this Hi that you know? Hi?

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Speaker 1: When when did he get when did he get hurts?

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Speaker 1: That Titans week in practice? So it's been three and

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Speaker 1: a half weeks, so basically a bye week, a good

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Speaker 1: recuperation from on high ankle sprains. Four weeks. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean a good one to see Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington. We're

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Speaker 1: at We're at four weeks now, right, this would be

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Speaker 1: the fifth week. Well he got hurt Tennessee, Aladelphia, Atlanta, Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so after the bye maybe then you got to maybe

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia ran It's like that would be reasonable. I'm just saying, though,

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Speaker 1: is you know the way that when we ask the

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Speaker 1: coach about him, the coach kind of gives you, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah. I mean it's not like I was

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Speaker 1: getting closer. We hope to have him back this, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean our office is overlooking practice field, you know,

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Speaker 1: I see I see I see Austin out there, I

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Speaker 1: see Sean Lee out there, I see Sue Philo out there,

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Speaker 1: I see Smith out there. I see all these guys

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Speaker 1: out there. And we're in Fresco now, so we don't

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Speaker 1: see irving anymore. Yeah, yeah, Joe, drop for that. Go

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Speaker 1: take care of your grandkids, all right. That. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we're leaving the hospital and headed home about noon today.

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what I'll do, or else I'll

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Speaker 1: finish putting up Christmas lights. Are you? Are you? Are

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Speaker 1: you the driver? I think they've got a desciminated drive.

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Speaker 1: Thank god, he's gonna call uber. Yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: let's see it tomorrow. I'm talking boy. This has been

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