1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: First of all, it's great to see everybody. Great to 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: be back here after our COVID experiences and as uh 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: uh absolutely impact that it made in all of our 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: lives and our ability to meet and see each other 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: face to face just feels like a homecoming of sorts. 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: But we're I've got Mike here. From his perspective, he's 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: been in all the meetings of you know where he's 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: been motored to the combine uh and of course Stephen 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: has been in all the meetings. And that's what we're doing. 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: We're getting ready for Thursday and excited about it and 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: excited about being with you guys and working through the 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: next few days and building our adding to the Dallas 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys team. So any questions far away Jerry and Mike 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: before we before we focus on the drafts. If you 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: hadn't had a chance to ask you about this, can 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: you just can you comment on Calvin Joseph and it 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: is involvement in this murder case and any any action 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: you may or may not take with Calvin will be 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: strictly dependent on anything that the any charges that are 20 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: followed against them, or would you consider doing something aside 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: from any charge of the Macca. I get all the 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: information directly. I hear directly from our counsel or Cowboy 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: counsel would here directly from anything from the league. It's 24 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: as you know, it's under investigation. UH. I don't know 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: any more than what I've seen you write or seen written. UH. 26 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: And it's certainly pending. But I have no information and 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: anyway that affects his status during this time of the year. 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: We're in our early season workout time and he's very 29 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: active and involved in getting ready for the coming season 30 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: and the anything that would alter that or in the 31 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: hands of any decision making that would regard the authorities 32 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: are the league, of which I've gotten no information on 33 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: that period. Just nothing, nothing that I can comment on. 34 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: And I certainly don't have any opinion. I don't know 35 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: any of the details. Coach, and you had any interaction 36 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: with Kelvin regarding the situation. My conversations with Calvin was 37 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: more about the focus of you know, what we're doing 38 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: here in the offseason, and he's been here throughout the 39 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: month of March and has been a full participant here 40 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks. Does that situation affect draft 41 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: preparation of what you may or may not have thought 42 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: about the need of cornerbacks. No, why not just because 43 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I said so? Did you ask me? Highla's guys? Okay, 44 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: in mind just life cycle that would would you consider 45 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: any sort of action outside of what the um, what 46 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: the authorities would do, just based on the situation at all? 47 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I think, just as Jerry's already uh stated, we were 48 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: just watching the process and that's all we that's all 49 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: we really have to comment on right now. Jerry talked 50 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: last week about the appetite for possibly trade. Are you 51 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: talking about that specifically in the first round of a 52 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: second generally? Uh? And that is purely a product. If 53 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the phone's not ringing, that's me calling. And so the 54 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: bottom line is you don't know what might be coming. 55 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: It is always the case that it's got to be 56 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: coming towards you, as opposed to you going to get it. 57 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: To put it in its right context, when I said 58 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: we might consider trading up, it would be madness to 59 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: not consider anything. As we mentally prepare for the draft, 60 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and tradings can be a big part of things. We've 61 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: had busy times in drafts and slower times in drafts. 62 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: But I think the question was that I answered at 63 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: the time, which I'm not being defensive at all, is 64 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: would you consider it specifically? With that, it's more of 65 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: an answer I would not not consider anything. As we're 66 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: sitting here getting ready for the draft, even when you 67 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: look at your guys forward, what can potentially be either 68 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: at twenty four just how do you feel about the 69 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: options that can potentially be there. Oh, I think we're 70 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: have some great opportunities. I think, uh, you know, it's 71 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: impossible to project, but I will say this about the draft. 72 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: I think it's very middle of the draft heavy, you know, 73 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: the third through the fifth round, you know, first and 74 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: second a little more then than we're used to. But 75 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: I still think we're gonna have a great opportunity to 76 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: really improve our football team, whether it's at the twenty 77 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: fourth pick. If we decide to make a move to 78 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: go up, then you know, there's some players that you 79 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: know would fit that category that you might be intrigued by, 80 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, then there's always the the option 81 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: that if four or five guys are sitting there that 82 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: you really think a lot of, then it's not impossible. 83 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, we might move down a little bit. But 84 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: in general, I think We're gonna have a great opportunity 85 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: to improve our football team in a big way throughout 86 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: the draft. As you know, we have nine picks, and 87 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: I just think it's a great opportunity for us to 88 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: get better. You prepare for a lot more scenarios when 89 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: you're sitting in twenty four verses, say where you are 90 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: last year just because you have to. Yeah, absolutely, I 91 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: mean you just, uh, you got all these teams in 92 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: front of you, and you're not sure what they're going 93 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: to do and how they have these players evaluated. I think, 94 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, as you've seen, I think in you know, 95 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: people reporting and they have obviously I'm sure great people 96 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: they talk to, and all the other organizations. It's a 97 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: mixed back in terms of who might do what and 98 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: who might take what. So you really do have to 99 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: go through a lot of options. We've already started that 100 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: extensively with Jerry and Mike will and myself, and I 101 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: think you do have to get prepared like that, and 102 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: then certainly you have to see what you're going to 103 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: be giving up. You know what that takes you really 104 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: deep putting you go, you know, twenty four picks into 105 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: the second round. You know, in terms of what you 106 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: might be given up to move that pick up. So 107 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: there is a lot of work, a lot of work 108 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: left to be done. But you know, at the end 109 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: of the day, I think the players are there that 110 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: can really improve our team. So many teams in the 111 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: league right now, teams the kind of change their approach 112 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: to go more all in the big trading seat. For 113 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: the wine receivers who ran specifically like to keep rid 114 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: of their earlier draft picks. Does that change your philosophy 115 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and your guys philosophy and how you build your team 116 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: at all, when other so many other teams seem to 117 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: be kind of shooting tool or aggressing the hall of approation. 118 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think everybody's situation is different, and we 119 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: have to look at our situation in terms of our 120 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: players and where we have our resources committed. I think 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: there's always going to be opportunities out there that you 122 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: have a chance maybe to stretch and really improve your 123 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: team if you think it's the right piece. At the 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: same time, you know, as you know, we believe strongly 125 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: that you build through the draft at your foundation. But 126 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: then when you have an opportunity, you know that sticks 127 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: out and you can improve your team, then you certainly 128 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: look at it, but you know, everybody's going to continue 129 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: to look at different ways to go about it. Obviously 130 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the Rams one in the Super Bowl had a different 131 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: approach in terms of how you know, they valued their 132 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: picks versus uh, the players they brought in there. And 133 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's uh, you know, one 134 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: right way to do this. I think there's a lot 135 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: of ways to go about it. And UH certainly will continue, 136 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, to massage things internally and we'll make decisions. 137 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I think it's unique 138 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: about our organization, you know, hav Injury as the owner 139 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: and the general manager, that we can make quick decisions 140 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and can make hard decisions quickly, and so I think 141 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: that gives us an advantage in terms of if we 142 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: decide to do something you know, that's on the aggressive, 143 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: real aggressive side, then we can do it. Each of 144 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: you address how you see these strengths of positional strengths 145 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: of this draft aligning with your perceived needs. Well, I think, 146 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: like anything, you just you trust the process. You know, 147 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: we're going through the process of ranking the board horizontally 148 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: and vertically, and and you know, and from that you 149 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: know you have you know, our view of our our 150 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: needs may be different than yours. But I think at 151 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I know from my perspective 152 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: the quality in the depth of the class is important 153 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: to stock it against these with these first two classes. 154 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: So um, you know this is this is an opportunity 155 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: for for us to obviously improve um with these new 156 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: guys coming in here, but to get in here and 157 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: talk about specific positions. I mean, obviously, if Jerry wants 158 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: to get into that's fine. I just think the quality 159 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: of the class and how they fit into our locker 160 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: room is really the overall view from my perspective. Sheet there, 161 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: you said, the phones are ringing, but you're calling. Have 162 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: you been making any calls this geek? I hadn't heard 163 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the same country song I've honey, when that phone's not ringing, 164 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: that's me call it as it's all. But seriously, we 165 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: always chum always, and you do that. I do it 166 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: away from the draft. You're always talking about possibilities or things. 167 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: There's nothing dangerous about thinking crazy things. Of what's dangerous 168 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: is of obviously when you get out of making a decision. 169 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: So without getting philosophical, we should think out of the box. 170 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: We should be contrarians. That doesn't mean that that has 171 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: to be that on that particular decision, but it's a 172 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: part of thinking unconventionally, and so you got to see 173 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: which way it's, which way the thing is going. We 174 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: had no idea Michael Parsons would be there last year 175 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: when we started that draft. We all had our own corners, 176 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: and the bad thing would have been not been flexible 177 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: and to have not been willing to do something that 178 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: you really hadn't gone to bed the night before thinking 179 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: you'd hoped it would go that way. So again, I 180 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: think flexibility, we have it here. The way to be 181 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: ready for it is to literally be prepared. And if 182 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: you had been a flower on the wall this morning 183 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: listening to our conversations, you would have heard some pretty 184 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: interesting scenarios about what if this, what if this happened? 185 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: And it's a product of having everybody on the same 186 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: page regarding our weaknesses and our strengths on our team, 187 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: or philosophically, if we had wish how we would like 188 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: to go defensively and what that player might do for 189 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: us to complement what a Parson's or a Lawrence might do. 190 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: So again, I know that this always comes down to 191 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: pretty subjective type explanation. But it is subjective, and the 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: very players themselves are subjective, and we have to bet 193 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: and project a lot of things that don't necessarily fall 194 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: right as they get beyond here into their careers. So 195 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: just understanding that only God knows really most of the 196 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: time about some of the critical parts of the decision 197 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: I think is important. You can milk toast things to death, 198 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and you can be right right down the middle if 199 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: you're perfect. The NFL is designed to win half few 200 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: games and lose half few games. It's a five hundred league, 201 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: and so you have to get out of bounds or 202 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: you have to get close to the boundaries from time 203 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: to time to sway that positively at all in my view. 204 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: So we will, as you will know if you think 205 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: about it, we will be unconventional. If we think it 206 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: will help our team. We don't go in there just 207 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: the idea of going the other way at all. So 208 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I would emphasize the best way to prepare for that 209 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: is to keep communicating. We have constant communicating, I have 210 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: and we have communicated since the day we walked through 211 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: the door with the Dallas Cowboys and I've never not 212 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: included the coach. Mike came from an organization and he 213 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: speak for himself that didn't include the coach as much, 214 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: and these processes of personnel, and they had a lot 215 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: of success in that manner. We do. We want that 216 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: process in there. And so if you were sitting in 217 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: that room, you would hear some of the key people, 218 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: the scouts, and you would think they were going to 219 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: make the pick. And we encourage that, and we argue 220 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: with that, and we talk about that, and that's important 221 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: not only to hear it, but that's important to get 222 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: that input. They might have some information that you should consider. 223 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: So our process is an inclusive one. We've said it. 224 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk in this business about who 225 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: makes the call, who actually makes the call? Okay, Taco 226 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: with Steven's call, Parson, Parson, Parson is my car. That's 227 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: not that funny to me. How many how would you've 228 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: been asking, excuse you, if you have how many first 229 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: round fixed in his dreft do we have on our board? 230 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Yet we're gonna be somewhere between what fourteen and sixteen 231 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. That a normal number, So it's lower 232 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: than normal. Stephen this is kind of the way. Is 233 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: it always rest available overdee or does that dynamic change 234 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: or later in the first round versus white when you 235 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: were seventeen a couple of years ago or ten last year. Well, 236 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I think if the grades are in there very similar, 237 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: then you pick what your need is. I think if 238 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: there's a big disparity, you don't go jump a half 239 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: around down to scratch an edge if you will. I mean, 240 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I think if they're in there close and the grades 241 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: are really close, then you know a couple of points 242 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: here there, then you know, I think you certainly would 243 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: take a look at you know your need over your 244 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: over the best grade just pure best grade with only 245 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen first round picks, is that on your 246 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: board at twenty four that open itself up to more 247 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: WI move down to the move up probably you're looking 248 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: at I think it just depends. Not everybody's gonna have 249 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: the same number the same guys in their picks, and 250 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: they may have more, they may have less first round picks. 251 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the art of competition right here, and 252 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: everybody's trying to put their board up the way they 253 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: see it. We put our board up the way we 254 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: see it, and that might have you looking at moving 255 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: up even more so than moving down. If one of 256 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: your guys you have in the first round are sitting 257 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: there and you think, hey, that may be worth it 258 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: to go get one. The flip side of that, if 259 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: you're if they're gone and you're looking at four or 260 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: five guys you value similarly at twenty four there, then 261 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: you might, you know, you might think about moving down. 262 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: Or if there's just one left and you're up and 263 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: it happened to go your way, then you pick away. 264 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: In you're saying you had like few were the first 265 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: round grades, but Mike and Steve didn't. Both you say 266 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: that overall you have more players graded with draft praise, 267 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and you normally do absolutely. I think, you know, with 268 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: the super seniors, you know where they got a red 269 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: shirt year, in a COVID year, and I mean we're 270 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: looking at some players that have been in college and 271 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: playing football for six years, and so you do see that. 272 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: I will say I do think the drafts more heavily waited, 273 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, toward the middle of the draft than it 274 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: is you know, toward the top. But I do think 275 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: there's more players that have draftable grades than we've ever 276 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: had any players of draftable grades? How does that change 277 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the approach to the undrafted signing period after the on 278 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: Saturday night? And then especially if you keep in mind 279 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: that you guys don't have a seven dront page, like 280 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: what's that going to? What that? What would that process 281 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: be left? I think it remains to be seen. I 282 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: mean who's who's left and where we have them? And 283 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we have no one left on our board. 284 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: I mean that's happened rarely, but you know you have 285 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: just a couple and then sometimes you've had a lot more. 286 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: We'll just have to see how this pans out, and 287 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: you know how the rest of the league thinks of 288 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: the players that we have on our board versus what's 289 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: been taken through the draft. Where do you think it's 290 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: important to be the draft process and what are the 291 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: ways that your draft process involvement has been different this 292 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: year previously in your career. Um, I would say, uh, 293 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, Number one, I think anytime you know, the 294 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: personnel and coaching can be together, you know, you know, 295 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: whether it's training camp and having them part of your meetings. Uh, 296 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, because you know we all want the same thing, 297 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's about getting the you know, the 298 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: best player as possible. And fit is a big part 299 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: of a lot of our conversations. We talked a lot 300 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: today about fit with the coordinators in there, so um 301 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: so I think it's it's like anything, it makes us 302 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: stronger as a group. The decision making processes tighter. Uh. 303 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: This is year three, So I mean year one we 304 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: were you know, we were virtual. Last year was was 305 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: more realistic. And this is really the first you know, 306 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: full year that we've had as a staff. You know, 307 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: our scouts are in house, and so this has been 308 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: a this this has clearly been the best process of 309 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: my time here because the interaction, whether it's on a road, 310 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, going get getting out and seeing seeing these 311 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: players at the pro days, and also interacting with your 312 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: scouts on the road, so just so much more collaboration, interaction, 313 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: and I think with that it definitely improves your decision 314 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: making process, even when you're looking at what you guys 315 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: have done and not done in free agency, and the 316 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: offensive line is if you look at that as a 317 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: must early on to find guys that come in and 318 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: stay one starts part of your thoughts on Zion Johnson 319 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: and Kennyan Greene. Yeah, I'm not gonna we won't get 320 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: it evaluating any of the players in here, But I 321 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: will say this, I mean, we're free agency is not over. 322 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's different waves of it, and uh, you know, 323 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: you still can uh you know, there's still going to 324 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: be opportunities to improve different areas of our team other 325 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: than the draft or college free agency. So uh, you know, 326 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: I think that still can happen and probably will happen. 327 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we have any must left in terms of, 328 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, having to take a particular position at some point. 329 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Obviously we want, you know, you'd like to look up 330 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: nine picks later and hope that you you know, you 331 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: really helped yourself across the board in terms of not 332 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: only uh, you know, improving yourself or frontline players, but 333 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: also depth and you know, things of that nature. So 334 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: I don't think we have any muss going into the draft. 335 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: Is there a big difference between your first and second 336 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: round grades offensive line this year? In other words, you 337 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: guys have done really really well in the past picking 338 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: offensive women in the first rounds, you know, going back 339 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: to Frederick Tyren Smith, Zock Morton. Is there a big 340 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: drop off between your first round grades offensive woyment in 341 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: the second rounds oh. I would say we've probably got 342 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: more top of the second round players maybe than we've 343 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: ever had, just didn't quite make the cut up being 344 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: first round players, and then we have some players that 345 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: are bottom of the first of the grades. You know, 346 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: the grade difference very small. Jury. When you lose the 347 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: guard life round you, when you face you might come back. 348 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: How does a personnel lost Europe for that position. Everything 349 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: has an offsetting quid pro quo everything, As you know. 350 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: I've think a lot of Randy and how he has 351 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: evolved and where he is in his career. But he 352 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 1: evolved so well that he got beyond our where I 353 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: wanted to go with the guarantees that we're going to 354 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: be involved. To have Randy here and I could have 355 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: done it were unacceptable to us. I'd rather have the 356 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: two armstrong and our other one. I'd rather have those 357 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: two than the one, and that's what we got. So 358 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: this this has very a big logic to it. I'll 359 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: just allude to the very same thing. Had you rather 360 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: have two players over in the second round or one 361 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: over in the first, that's what it costs you to 362 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: get up to the first is to trade that second 363 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: round pick to get up there. Most cases, when we 364 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: go down that board, we'd rather have the two, just 365 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: as far as looking at a rule let you might 366 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: go by and so to be specific, back to Randy, 367 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: But Randy, to his credit and they're credit Denver wanted 368 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: him more than we did. And that's not a heart 369 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: adjustment because we got extra players for that, and we 370 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't have we wouldn't have had the players that we 371 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: got we had we assigned Randy, period and I'd rather 372 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: have the two than the one. Availability was a big 373 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: item here. Being available always has been, always has been. 374 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: And you can reach to a point where if you've 375 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: got a big question mark on availability, forget ability. If 376 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: you've got a big question mark on availability, do you 377 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: want to strap home millions and millions of dollars to 378 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: your salary cap with that big question mark at availability? 379 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: It got too high for the benefit of the team. 380 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: And I think nobody thought thinks anymore of Randy's ability 381 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: or of how he has evolved, and still think he's 382 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: one of the frankly individually like him, but as well 383 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: as anybody I've ever been around, as far as a 384 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: player of the Cowboys, just didn't work that way. It 385 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: wasn't good for us to do that. Even when the 386 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: last eight years there's been a pretty big shift on 387 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: how you guys picked Power five guys compared to the 388 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: previous eight it's like seventy five percent of your picks 389 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: versus fifty six percent of your picks. Is that hasn't 390 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: been a shift in how you guys break it down 391 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: and leading more power high schools than you have in 392 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: the pass And what does a smaller school guy have 393 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: to do to earn that consideration. Well, I just think 394 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's all all goes 395 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: with the evaluation process. Hopefully we get better every year. 396 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's made it real clear philosophically in our organization, 397 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: either getting worse or you're getting better. There's no there's 398 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: no flatline here. And so we continue to look for 399 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: ways to improve as to how we evaluate talent in 400 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: terms of whether it's in college, whether it's in pro 401 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: whether it's our interactions as Mike mentioned, which I think 402 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: we do extremely well of having our coaches interact with 403 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: our personnel people in terms of what's the vision for 404 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: the scheme we want to run and how those players 405 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: fit and where they're gonna fit, and you know, so 406 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: that you see, when hey, we draft a guy, the 407 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: coach see he sees that guy the same way the 408 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: scout does. And that's why I've had to think we've 409 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: had so much success with players being able to come 410 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: in and play right away. So, uh, you know, at 411 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: the end of the day, there is obviously is we 412 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: see with the Power five. You know, there's they're the 413 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: Power five for a reason. I mean, they've got some 414 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: really good football players. But at the same time, there 415 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: are good players that aren't in the Power five. If 416 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: you find the right guys that can step in here 417 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: and play right away. But I don't think it's been 418 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: a conscientious effort to just say, hey, we're going to 419 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: get away from smaller schools and get into Power five 420 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: only and that's where we're gonna pick from. It's more, 421 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: I think just our evaluation process evolving into where you know, 422 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: that's where we've you know, historically or not historically, where 423 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: we've ended up over the past you know, four or five, six, 424 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: seven years, whatever timeframe that is. What do you see 425 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: when you floked at this the deepest positions in this 426 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: draft and just your overall boots on some of those positions, 427 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: and then how it's tacking at well, I think you know, traditionally, 428 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, the wide receiver groups has been very deep, 429 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: and that's it looks the whole true again this year. 430 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: So um. And you know, I think as you go 431 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: up and down the board and I just want to quit. 432 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: Steven's already addressed, is you know this is going to 433 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: be a very deep draft, particularly in the middle rounds. 434 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: So um. And with that, as far as the ability 435 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: to get both offense and defensive players, I think we 436 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: said very well for that opportunity. The pandemic force the 437 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: organization and all the organizations to adopt certain principles you know, 438 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: virtual and this ortum. Now that things are looped up 439 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: a bit in that regard, have you found that you've 440 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: kept some of those pandemic specific principles to make your 441 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: draft process more efficient? If so, you kind of detail 442 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: how you guys are handily pre draft differently today than 443 00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: AB two does nineteen. Yeah, I think that, um, you know, 444 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: virtual is definitely a component of not only the draft 445 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: process but our everyday operation. So um, just you go 446 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: as far as the off season program this year. Um, 447 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, we've had one hundred percent participation, but you know, 448 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: we we we do have individuals that have had things 449 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: that are already scheduled ahead of time that even though 450 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: they were unable to be here, they were in the 451 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: meetings virtually, so that that was obviously something that was 452 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: not in place in prior years. Um, no different than 453 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: the than the draft process. You know, there there's been 454 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: times where um, we may need a little more information 455 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: on a on a prospect and bang we were able 456 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: to get to get the individual on a zoom call 457 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: that night. So um, and I think so you know, 458 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: the things that came out of the pandemic are are 459 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: definitely the virtual component is still in place, you know, 460 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: obviously not to the level that it was two years ago. 461 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: And and I think it's a it's an asset in 462 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: our evaluation process. The two players instead of one. You know, 463 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: we're going to raining very and our struggling old that 464 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: you said one most talented rosters in the NFL last 465 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: season that you've lost this off season to this point, 466 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: How confident are you that after this draft crosses the 467 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: talent capter we're reading for you agency that this Cowboys 468 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: roster can be as talented or as god as it 469 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: was a season ago. Well, I've I thought that we 470 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: were as talented going into the playoffs last year as 471 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: any time in the top handful of teams that I've 472 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: been involved in. So it's not surprising at all for 473 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: us to have a catch up or have a bar 474 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: of last year as where you would like to be. 475 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: And so with that in mind, what ends up happening 476 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: is that things that first year players second year players 477 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: evolve and you can't expect those to get better if 478 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: we have those along with what we have done with 479 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: the continuity of coming off of the COVID year last 480 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: year and coming into the basic I'm going to say 481 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: fundamental solidness of our off season, the fundamentals of this 482 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: draft process, and the fundamentals of taking what we started 483 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: last year defensively, I think we can very easily be 484 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: where we were last year talent wise, or able to 485 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: play at that kind of talent level. I believe that's 486 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: going to be the case. Now. I'm not factoring in 487 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: finding this year's parsons. I'm not factoring that in that 488 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: last year that helped that situation along without being tried, 489 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: so that, in short, I feel very strongly that we 490 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: can have a team that can give us ever bit 491 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: the prompt us to evolve and get us back where 492 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: we were in the playoffs last year with the health level, 493 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: the availability level, as well as the talent level that 494 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: we had last year. And I can go down through 495 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: and look at specifics just within Dak should be in 496 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: better shape than he was this time, but when he 497 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: went into the playoffs, by virtue of having this offseason, 498 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: I want to assume we're not going to get another 499 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: calf injury in the fifth game or sixth game. I 500 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: want to assume we're not going to get a shoulder 501 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: injury in training camp. But I think we could have 502 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: a healthier Dak as you go into that alone could 503 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: put us in better shape for the playoffs. So anyway, 504 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: all of those are what effs, I understand, But you 505 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: got to think about them and you got a plan 506 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: on them one way or the other, and that's what 507 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: we're doing. So to answer your question, I don't I'm 508 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: not willing to concede at all that by the time 509 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: we get to the playoffs this coming year that we 510 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: want to be ever bit the team that we had 511 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: going in the playoffs last year, Stephen, when you talk 512 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: about the top of the second round being a heavy 513 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: and she can remember, can you talk about when you're 514 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: in kind of that nebulous area of lading the first 515 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: round side me, if you're going to look back or 516 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: so the club having to fit to your option on 517 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: the first round pick, is that good? I think it is, 518 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think it is, especially because you're what 519 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: you want to do, assign players to that second contract 520 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: and when you have a fifth year option that gives you, 521 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, that helps you with your negotiation versus you 522 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: know you're going to be dealing with somebody who's going 523 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: to be totally pre example Dak Prescott. It's a perfect one, 524 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: but certainly that would come into play. I know I've 525 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: heard people say at time and time again on quarterbacks, 526 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: if you're going to pick a quarterback, you know, top 527 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: of the second, bottom of the first, you'd like to 528 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: have that extra year. So you know, those things are important. 529 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: That certainly plays into it. It's a great observation and 530 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: certainly something that the teams do look at and we 531 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: look at uh from a salary cap standpoint. All that 532 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: gets you know, mixed in in terms of uh, you know, 533 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: when you're putting the full body of work into a decision, 534 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: then that's certainly part of it. Steven, what's that process 535 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: like a dress versals? For these last couple of days, 536 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: he's be speaking up to an inside of the war 537 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: room for practices and all of that. You guys go 538 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: through all these you mentioned the stereos and all of that. 539 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Is that is that an enjoyable experience is intense? What's 540 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: that like these last couple of days? You know, it's 541 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: through the final day. The thing I get the most 542 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: out of is more the you know, the straight strategy 543 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: more so than you know the mock drafts, which I 544 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: think are useful, but I think the bigger thing or 545 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: to really play through it in our minds, you know 546 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: what's realistically going to be there versus what may or 547 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: may not be there. Those are all things that are 548 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: interesting and then project down to what you might be 549 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: passing in the second or what you might be passing 550 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: with our picking the third. I think all those things 551 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: are important, but I do think the mic drafts player role, 552 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: and we do that extensively as well. But I think 553 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: the most important thing is just to get your hands around, 554 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: you know what caliber player you're going to be looking at, 555 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: what you'd be looking at, saying the bottom of the 556 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: second and potentially giving up along with your first pick 557 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: versus you know, having two players versus one. I think 558 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: it's the well said would you anticipate, with what you've 559 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: seen in the free agent market with wide receivers salaries, 560 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: that that could push some wide receivers up the board 561 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: if you will? And how do those things factor into 562 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: a draft table those trends? Well, I think any of this, 563 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, as you look at free agency, it certainly 564 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: points to all the more how important drafting well is. 565 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: You know, if you can avoid you know, you just 566 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: can't pay even if you have success, which we feel 567 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: like we've had, you know, our share of success, if 568 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: not more so in terms of drafting six assfully, you 569 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: still can't give them all, every one of them, that 570 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: second contract. So consequently you have to make some tougher decisions. 571 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: I mean that obviously came down the pipe with us 572 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: with you know, a successful pick in Gallup versus you know, 573 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: ultimately having to make a decision, are you going to 574 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: be able to have you know, Amari end Gallop and 575 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: so you have to make that call. And I think 576 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: all those things play into uh, you know, play into 577 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: it in terms of, you know, drafting successfully versus uh, 578 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, having to pay for it from a resource standpoint. Uh, 579 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, the drafts so important there in terms of 580 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: making your cap work overall. How it's Gallop status? Any 581 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: updates on him? Is it still look like he's training 582 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: week one? In other words? Is that effect hell you 583 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: draft or free agency just preparing for a possible contingency 584 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be available? We winned Michael's doing very 585 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: well and as rehab, I mean he's here every day 586 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: he's been. He's been here throughout the prehabitive surgery and 587 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: all the rehab. So but I you know, I think 588 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: once we get the training camp, we'll have a tighter 589 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: view on exactly when he'll be available. Where you joked earlier, 590 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: who makes switched decisions in the in the draft room? 591 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: I was your role changed in terms of player evaluation 592 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: and draft decisions if at all? During you know, I've 593 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: got a good read in terms of the coaches involvement. 594 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: We've talked about that earlier. I have always thought that 595 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: the man coaching the players should have an investment in 596 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: the decision being made of putting the players out there. 597 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: I guess I get that from my college days. If anything, 598 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: so I've always thought that was the politically way to 599 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: do it. I have seen people get ideas about players 600 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: in the draft process as coaches and absolutely have a 601 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: bias with them as they get on into coaching them. 602 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: And so I've seen that and they have to work 603 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: through that bias to get that done. Well. It's better 604 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: to have a buy in. There's a lot of me 605 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: that would like to take a player and hand it 606 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: over when we draft him, and have Mike sign it, 607 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: have Stephen sign it, have Will sign it, and then 608 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: go down through the coaching staff and have everybody on 609 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: there sign it. This is the guy we picked, and 610 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: so that when somebody comes in and for whatever the reason, 611 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: he needs more reps or needs this, or he's got 612 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: an issue about how he's coached on the field. Bill 613 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: Parcells used to joke about He said, I don't want 614 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: the scouts out there watching practice and talking about how 615 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: to have such and such playing more than such and such. 616 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: He did that tongue in cheek. The point is there 617 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: really is buying here, and there's buying with how players 618 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: are selected, and there's buying with after they're selected, how 619 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: they evolve, and how they're coached. I believe in that. 620 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: So to answer you a question, I've always been into 621 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: the buying into I used to have a sign on 622 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: my desk if you're willing to give others the credit, 623 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: you can conquer the world. And that was the sign 624 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: that I had all the way up and through the 625 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I hadn't been in this world of having 626 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: a need to, well, who's making that call, or who's 627 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: making that call, or who's making that call around here 628 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: if it has a dollar sign associated with it in 629 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: any way, I make the final call. I'm responsible for 630 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: the money coming in and going out ultimately, and so 631 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: I make that call. I have been since the day 632 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: I walked through this door, and so I intend to 633 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: make the call and get to where I can assess 634 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: the information that's coming to me so that we can 635 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: make the call. That has not changed. That hasn't changed. Now. 636 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: What has happened is that Steven's been doing this now 637 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: for thirty three years, and he walked in here with 638 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: a chemical engineering degree. Ought to be smart enough to 639 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: pick it up somewhere along the way. But seriously, seriously, 640 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: he has been around here, and he's been around and 641 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: everything we've done. If you can't have confidence, that you 642 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: need to go home because he's seen it come and 643 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: go and seen all the wrong decisions and all the 644 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: right decisions as it goes there. So it's a luxury 645 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: on my part to have that kind of talent ready, 646 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: I've got it. The Cowboys have it in several places 647 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: around here of real season, but relatively speaking, young people 648 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: to get in here and help make all contribute to 649 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: making this decision. So it is wrong to basically look 650 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: at a decision and say that Jerry made the decision 651 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: to draft Michael Parsons. I did not do it. I 652 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: did it, actually physically did it. But I had tremendous 653 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: input from what people that I have a lot of 654 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: respect for, that have spent a lot of time getting 655 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: ready to help make that make that decision. Will puts 656 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: the board, Will puts the board together. He didn't make 657 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: the call. He puts the board together. If you watched 658 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: how we get up on that board and who gets 659 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: in the third hole, who gets in the fourth slot 660 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: or the fifth slot, you would see that there's fifteen 661 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: people made that decision about how he gets in the 662 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: fifteenth slot. That's not a one person decision about who 663 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: goes up there. And then it's day, I'm sure not 664 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: just a one person decision. When you're up there on 665 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: the draft board and you picked that player off of 666 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: that spot on the board. There can be all kinds 667 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: of players still up on that board, but that's not 668 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: a one person decision. So to answer your question, it's 669 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: being made exactly the same way that was always being made. Now, 670 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,479 Speaker 1: then I really do and should in my spot, make 671 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: other people believe they're making the decision. I should do that. 672 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: I should work very hard to make other people believe 673 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: it's their decision, because if they think it's their decision, 674 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: they will work their ass off to try to make 675 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: sure it's a good one, and they will take ownership 676 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: in the decision and they'll make it go. So I 677 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: spend a lot of my time around making people be 678 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: not only helping make the decision, but believing they made 679 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: the decision. That gets accountability. That hasn't changed. None of 680 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: this has changed at all. There's probably less risk taking 681 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: in me today than it probably was when I look 682 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: back thirty something years ago from the taking of just 683 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: outright taking risks. But when we got here, I frankly 684 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: was the only one in the room it had ever 685 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: taken a risk, certainly financially when I first got involved, 686 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: and so I knew how to take risk, knew how 687 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,479 Speaker 1: to judge the consequences if you mess up on a risk. 688 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: And I was experiencing that. That's how on the Cowboys, 689 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: That's how I got him, so I could do that. 690 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: So I was the risk taker going in coming today 691 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: after these years, We've got several people in this front 692 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 1: that have taken some risks. This one sitting right next 693 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: to him in he's eating some of them, and he's 694 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: been to the top and some others. When he goes 695 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: so he knows the pain. He goes with it so 696 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: same way Mike, just exactly the same way. And I 697 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: get mused when I see people right that, well, this 698 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: is not the same Jerry, or this is this, this 699 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: is that, this is that they are just so off base. 700 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Why am I taking less risks? I said, 701 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: I believe that I could be taking less risks because, frankly, 702 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: I feel that the decision that Michael Parson was not 703 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: a risky decision relative to the situation, and so so 704 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: I seemed to be more in keeping with the more 705 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: logical way to make them make the decision. We still 706 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: make some pretty risky decisions though, and very capable of 707 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: making them too. We made that was when we take 708 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: guys in the second round that we're red shirting. Those 709 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: are risky decisions. Those are decisions putting your you, that 710 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: player's contribution off a little bit. Usually when it's a 711 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: decision like Smith, or decision really like several that we 712 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: made around here. So uh that that type of thing, 713 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: a decision on off the field issues. I'm probably a 714 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: little more conservative than I was fifteen years ago about availability, 715 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: Probably a little more conservative, maybe a little more conservative 716 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: about players on the com a little bit. Got some 717 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: developing to do, need to get some strength because I 718 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: feel like we need to use them now more than 719 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: we did fifteen years ago or more than ten years ago. 720 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: It's a now thing and it has everything to do 721 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: because we need those players, for instance, to play immediately 722 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: because most of the money is going to the top 723 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: ten or eleven that are already here, and so those 724 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: guys with their rookie salaries need to help us more 725 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: immediately than they have in the past. As you think 726 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: you had more conservative a Gas with the popticular issues, 727 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: would make you comfortable about Kelvin Joseph despite his reflect 728 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: last year, Well, I think that you've gone into Let's 729 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: be real clear, I haven't said I was comfortable or 730 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: uncomfortable or about issues. Yeah, and you're comfortable to take it. 731 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: I felt that we had him about where we should 732 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: have him relative to his skill level. We thought he 733 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: was a number one of the top ones talent wise. 734 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: He got docked last year and so I thought we 735 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: had him gazed Jess right, we had to drag Pool 736 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: right on him punish up with Jority. Y'all talked a 737 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: lot during the season about how important it is to 738 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: have the same five offensive linement starting and how much 739 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: multiple games together can prove that continuity and like that, 740 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: how do you value position flex and versatility for an 741 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: offensive lineman relative to other strengths. I mean, position flex 742 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: is important, obviously, especially now you've got seventeen games season, 743 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, the goal, I mean, the statistics speak for themselves. 744 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the success of an 745 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: NFL football team that has consecutive starts. By their linement, 746 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: they correlate. So that's that's gone on as far back 747 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: as I can remember. But I mean, but you can't 748 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: control the injuries and the things that happened. So, um, 749 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: I think it's like anything, you know, depth is important. 750 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: But how you train players, you know in this class 751 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: will be important because you've got young players coming in. 752 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: We have some older players. So these are the things 753 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: we talk about. Is how many represses as young man 754 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: going to get when he gets here. How you know, 755 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: how is it going to fit it? What position flex 756 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: does it does it give? So to answer your question, yes, 757 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: it's very important. But I mean the goal is to 758 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: have the first five, you know, one five play all 759 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: the time because that's you know, that's the most cohesive group, um, 760 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, for your offense, and you know, it dictates 761 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: a lot of things that go on during the course 762 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: of a game, lit alone the season, especially into the 763 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: playoff football. So but position position flexes is something that's held, 764 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, but a lot of value is look upon 765 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: as far as how they're great and how they fit. 766 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: Thank you.