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Speaker 1: The late fifteen ten touchdowns. What's up, guys? Welcome into

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Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, three weeks away

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Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft to Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: as always, joined by Matt, Buddy Smith and Buddy. The

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Speaker 1: build up is just kind of feeling it now a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I've been talking to Mike last week. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I saw Mike's updated mock draft and the podbust have

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Speaker 1: been fresh at his mic and his Dalton KEKs a

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Speaker 1: charge out his mind. You know, Yeah, a lot more,

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Speaker 1: a lot more mock drafts, a lot more draft shows,

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Speaker 1: a lot more draft columns, a lot more draft pods.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the picture is any clear than

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Speaker 1: it was a week ago, but you know, teams, teams

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Speaker 1: are going to leak out what they want to leak out.

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Speaker 1: For the most part, they're they're playing straight, they're doing

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Speaker 1: their due diligence. They've got their board, they've got their

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Speaker 1: first round grades. I think that's what most people that

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Speaker 1: are listening to us are focused on, not so much

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Speaker 1: what are the Chargers going to do in the fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: and seventh, but sort of what are these first three

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Speaker 1: to be? And I still think the one development that

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Speaker 1: affects them a little bit is the emergence of Hendon

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Speaker 1: Hooker as a potential first round draft pick and the

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Speaker 1: potential slide of Will Levis as some are projecting. So

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Speaker 1: that's between what we were talking about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: conversation we had last week and the conversation we're having

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Speaker 1: this week. That's perhaps the one development that bodes well

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers is if Levis slips, Canny slip all

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Speaker 1: the way to twenty one, Hendon Hooker, is he a

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Speaker 1: first round pick? How many teams have them on their board?

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Speaker 1: Is their quarterback of the future willing to invest a

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Speaker 1: twenty one? And those are things that would benefit the

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Speaker 1: Chargers if they want to trade back. And it seemed

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Speaker 1: like Tom and Brandon both alluded to that, and it's

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Speaker 1: something that we brought up a couple of weeks ago, right,

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Speaker 1: is you only have so many first round aids, and

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Speaker 1: once you get out of those first round round graded players,

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Speaker 1: you're more open to trade back. It's just is there

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Speaker 1: another team that has a first round grade on one

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Speaker 1: of those players that's sitting there when you're slated to

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Speaker 1: pick at twenty one. You know, I try to take

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Speaker 1: ourselves back to last year when we were trying to

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Speaker 1: predict who the charges we're going to select, and we

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Speaker 1: mentioned Dion Johnson a few times, but we didn't I mean,

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Speaker 1: you and I weren't saying, hey, Zion Johnson, look out

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Speaker 1: there's always things that happen on draft night too where

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Speaker 1: you don't expect. Henn and Hooker and Will Levis. I

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Speaker 1: think those are things to keep an eye on. I

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Speaker 1: think maybe trades. Who knows what Lamar Jackson situation is

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Speaker 1: going to be, like, uh, you know, does that develop

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Speaker 1: on draft night? Does it develop after Draft night? I

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Speaker 1: think those are all fair questions as we kind of

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Speaker 1: look ahead to Round one, But at twenty one overall,

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Speaker 1: you know, first of all, did you see the breakdown

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Speaker 1: that Brett Coleman did on Kellen Moore's Yeah, on Kellen

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Speaker 1: best word you know, the receiving numbers are almost identical.

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Speaker 1: But Gerald Everett is not a blocker. He's a He's

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Speaker 1: that's something to keep an eye on. The with the

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Speaker 1: they're still searching for those blocking skills to show up.

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Speaker 1: We know Donald Parham came in with very little ability

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Speaker 1: where sort of the Michael Mayer versus Dalton kincaide versus

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Speaker 1: Darnell Washington all come into play. Is tight ends are different.

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Speaker 1: did it with Trey before he became their starting right tackle,

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Speaker 1: he was always their sixth offensive lineman. So they can

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Speaker 1: do that if if you're concerned about drafting Kinkaid to

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Speaker 1: Moore's looking for? But yes, a great breakdown hit it

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Speaker 1: really great job of explaining kind of what Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: little bit to think, Okay, is Washington or is is

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Speaker 1: Mayor a better fit? Like on its face in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, knowing that Gerald Everett and Dalton Kinkai kind

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and Dalton kinka could be a lethal combination

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not worth saying. Okay, you know, forget it.

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Speaker 1: We have Gerald Everett this year. Let's focus on Washington

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Speaker 1: the stuff we see with Joey and Khalil last year.

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Speaker 1: imagine that Brandon Stale will be jumping on the table

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Speaker 1: begging Tom to take him to help this defense out.

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Speaker 1: So Renner updated his mock yesterday. He's got Dalton Kincaid,

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Speaker 1: Michael Middlehurst, Schwartz from USA Today, Dalton Kincaid, Ryan Wilson,

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Speaker 1: down the board. You're starting to hear more Quinton Johnston,

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Speaker 1: And again, you can't just think about twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bunny, let's get to some of these questions.

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Speaker 1: This one was directed towards you. I know Money wants

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Speaker 1: on his tape where he could slide. But van Ness

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00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: is an interesting one just because he's a freak. He's

426
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Speaker 1: just like one of those you know, Roman statues that

427
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Speaker 1: chiseled from marble, that that's out there playing and you know,

428
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Speaker 1: is he bodied beautiful or is he you know, this

429
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Speaker 1: freak of an athlete that's also a really good player

430
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: because he didn't that that that production part if it

431
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: wasn't really there. So that's a couple names I think

432
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side that maybe if for whatever reason,

433
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Speaker 1: Gonzalez where it's been, I don't think they're going to

434
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Speaker 1: be their branch is probably the interesting one. At at corner,

435
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Speaker 1: can's Nolan Smith. Some people have Miles Murphy there. I

436
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Speaker 1: don't know if they'd have a first round grade on him.

437
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Speaker 1: So there's a couple names to maybe think about him

438
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: there you go more than a couple, and you know,

439
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: from a cornerback perspective, I think sometimes we forget that J. C.

440
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: Jackson is rehabbing right now. We don't know when he's

441
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna be ready, But it's a nice segue into the

442
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: next question High Chris and Money. I see JC Jackson

443
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Speaker 1: on social media working diligently to recover as soon as

444
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: he can from this serious injury. Also read no timeline

445
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Speaker 1: for his return. When does he finally return? How much

446
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: will that injury affect his level of play from prior

447
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: to it? All good questions. I don't have the answer

448
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: to any of them. Us are tough ones to answer.

449
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: Those are tough ones, and I'm hopeful that JC can

450
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Speaker 1: contribute in a meaningful way at some point during the season.

451
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, you sawwa Zon did in the in the

452
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: playoff game. Michael Davis was fantastic in Jac's absence. Bryce

453
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Callahan's fill a free agent, I think he was signed

454
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Speaker 1: by the Chargers in May after the draft last year,

455
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Speaker 1: So maybe that quarterback room isn't done yet. Money, But

456
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Speaker 1: to what extent we can count on Jc, I think

457
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Speaker 1: right now as we sit here April fifth, I don't

458
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Speaker 1: know no idea. Just know that after the injury was

459
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Speaker 1: described as a really bad injury. That's pretty much all

460
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Speaker 1: I know is they said it was a bad one.

461
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Speaker 1: So we see him. Though you mentioned you see the

462
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Speaker 1: videos talking to guys that are going into the office

463
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: every day. They're like, yeah, see here every day, working out,

464
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Speaker 1: starting to put a lot of weight on it, starting

465
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Speaker 1: to get along, you know, a lot further in his

466
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Speaker 1: rehab process. So you need him. There's no depth in

467
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: that cornerback room, so you definitely need him. And that's

468
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot of money tied up that you're not walking

469
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Speaker 1: away from anytime soon. He's here for at least another

470
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Speaker 1: two years, so it's it's one of those just cross

471
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Speaker 1: your fingers. The interesting thing is going to be what

472
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Speaker 1: do you do with Mikey's last year of his deal?

473
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Speaker 1: So how do you play that when you've got JC

474
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Speaker 1: on that type of number. Assante is going to be

475
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Speaker 1: going in to his Asante is going into his third year,

476
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Speaker 1: so next year will be his fourth year and then

477
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Speaker 1: he'll be a free agent. So that really sort of

478
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Speaker 1: flips the corner room on its head, which is why

479
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Speaker 1: you might see it when it comes to the draft. Okay,

480
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Speaker 1: do they You hate to say it, but do they

481
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Speaker 1: have to go corner? You know, because of just the

482
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Speaker 1: timing of all of this. What's Michael Davis worth on

483
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Speaker 1: the free agent market? And can the Chargers afford it

484
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Speaker 1: with the amount of money they already have tied up

485
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Speaker 1: in Derwin James and J. C. Jackson. Alloie Gilman is

486
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Speaker 1: going to be a free agent at the end of

487
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Speaker 1: this year. What if he has a really good year?

488
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Speaker 1: So is I kind of go through the board here

489
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Speaker 1: of of corners, you have Joey Porters there, Maybe you

490
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Speaker 1: take Joey Porter at twenty one. If Deante Banks is there,

491
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Speaker 1: maybe you take Deante Banks at at twenty one. So

492
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Speaker 1: that's sort of an interesting I think it's I don't

493
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Speaker 1: I don't know kind of what the what the approach

494
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Speaker 1: would be. Brian Branch should be an interesting one because he's,

495
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: like we said, he's so versatile. You can play him

496
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Speaker 1: at safety, you can play him at slot, you know.

497
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Speaker 1: So that's that's one I think to keep an eye on.

498
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Speaker 1: But that is I'm talking through it now. It starts

499
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: to make a little more sense. Yeah, corner could be

500
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Speaker 1: what you end up doing there in the first round,

501
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: just because of the timing on these contracts and these

502
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Speaker 1: players that are coming up. That's a good point. That

503
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Speaker 1: question was from Crumbo. All right, Charters, Aaron, Yeah, who

504
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: would be some dark horse offensive guys already on the

505
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Speaker 1: team that should benefit the most from Kellen Moore. He said,

506
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Speaker 1: for me, param and Spiller, I think those are two

507
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: really good ones. Especially you know, I think Parham still

508
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: just scratching the surface head injury history. And we just

509
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: mentioned the big question mark around Isaiah Spiller. Maybe he

510
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: is a guy who can think of league Well, I

511
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: know it's not sexy, but how about the five guys

512
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Speaker 1: up front? The Cowboys offensive line is regularly cited as

513
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: the best in the league. Now is that because they

514
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: have the talent they've invested Zach Martin, best guard, Tyrn Smith,

515
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: one of the best left tackles. But when guys went

516
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: down and Steele had to step in, these guys are

517
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Speaker 1: playing ball. So yeah, to me, that's something to keep

518
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: an eye on. Is how good that offensive line was

519
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: year in and year out? How is that the offensive

520
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: coordinator's job? Not really the offensive line coach tends to

521
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: operate on his own separate But how do you use

522
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line? How are they blocking in your run scheme?

523
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: How are they blocking? How are they pass blocking? So

524
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Speaker 1: you know, what kind of plays are you calling? What

525
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: kind of pass plays are you calling? To help your

526
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: offensive line out? So instead of just thinking to the

527
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: skill positions, to me, you could also think about the

528
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: five guys up front and how they benefit with him

529
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: calling plays versus Joe Lombardi the last two years. Certainly

530
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: you look at the running backs, you know, and what

531
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard turned into under Kellen, So that's an obvious

532
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: place to look. And for everything else, we're just looking

533
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: at the continued development of young players. Josh Palmer, Donald Parham,

534
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Trey McKitty. He's a guy that likes to use a

535
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: lot of twelve. We talked about that. That means two

536
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: tight ends, one running back, two tight ends. So does

537
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: that mean the development or Trey McKitty Moore, because he's

538
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: got to be out there more and Kellen's gonna be

539
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: able to coach him up make him a better tight end.

540
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: It's not like Dalton Schultz was a household name when

541
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Speaker 1: he when he turned in one of the better all

542
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: around tight ends in the league. It was something that

543
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: was coached up by Kellen Moore. Yeah, and that's why

544
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: they drafted Trey McKitty in the third round. So yeah,

545
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: mere cat manner, Why do you guys have such a

546
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: preference for tight end? The only tight ends taking in

547
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: the first round. That had a big impact since two

548
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: thousand have been Verdon Davis and Jeremy Shocky. Even guys

549
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: that have been called aliens or generational haven't lived up

550
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: to the hype. E. G. Pitts and Joeku, etc. I

551
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: won't speak for you money, I'll just I'll start by saying,

552
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys had a quarterback

553
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: named Justin Herbert, and I think that's that's the intrigue,

554
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: is pairing a guy like Dalton kink with somebody like

555
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. You know, Kyle Pitts is still figuring out

556
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a quarterback. David and Joeku I

557
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: don't remember who his was when he was drafted to Cleveland,

558
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: but Cliffland hasn't had a lot of success at the

559
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: quarterback position. So Justin Herbert is the reason I think

560
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: we are intrigued by Dalton Kincaid, Michael Mayer, and Washington

561
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: from Georgia. It's a fair question. My answer would be

562
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: that you can apply it to any position. It's it's

563
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: all an unknown. It's one great unknown. You're in so

564
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: much of it you alluded to it. Chris is circumstance.

565
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: What team are you being drafted? You know, to what

566
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Speaker 1: team are you being drafted, who's your quarterback, who's thrown

567
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: you the passes? What kind of offense are you in?

568
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: It's the tight end featured. What division are you in?

569
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: How fast are the linebackers, how good are the safeties?

570
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: So there's a lot that goes into it. The one

571
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: thing I'll say is the tight end position has changed

572
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: dramatically the last five years. It has become a true

573
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: weapon in the pass game. A because so many teams

574
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: are playing thirteen where you've got one tight end, three

575
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and you don't have enough defensive backs. So

576
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: typically one of those guys is being covered by a safety.

577
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: Your tight end is being covered by a safety that's

578
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: too small or a linebacker that's too slow. When you've

579
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Speaker 1: got a really good one, and they can really impact

580
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: a team's offense because it's a constant mismatch. And there's

581
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Speaker 1: a reason why young quarterbacks Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson just

582
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: go through these young quarterbacks. When last year the Jags

583
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: went out and got Evan Ingram, that's it's a it's

584
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Speaker 1: an easy completion. That so when so that's your floor.

585
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: Your floor is middle of the field, easy completion, red zone,

586
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: giant catch radius, big body can help you out as

587
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: a blocker and then release. And then when you combine

588
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: that with someone that you think has elite skills, well

589
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: that's it's almost impossible to cover. And that's why people

590
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: get so excited about Dalton Kincaide because just trying to

591
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: imagine how is a defense going to stop It's everybody

592
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: knew Travis Kelsey was kind of all they had this year.

593
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill was gone. You know, you're content with letting

594
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: mvs or juju hurt you in the in the past game,

595
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: you just couldn't let Kelsey beach and he still did.

596
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: And he's still beat teams to a pulp because he's

597
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: that good, because he's that tough of a cover. He's

598
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: too big for corners and safeties and he's too fast

599
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: for linebackers. So when you can find one of those players,

600
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: it's why you see these guys go so high. Now

601
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: do they always pan out? No, but just go through

602
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: the Okay, let's super Bowl Dallas Goddard Travis Kelsey two

603
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: of the best NFC Championship game. George Kittle Dallas Goddard. Obviously,

604
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can make anybody good, but he's had solid

605
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: tight ends there, and they've been searching year in and

606
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: you know from Uzama who left last year Croft, they

607
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: have regularly been searching for really good tight ends there.

608
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: So that's why you do it. This one is from

609
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Speaker 1: Andrew with Jason Moore, Michael Bandy, DeAndre Carter not coming back,

610
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: and Jalen Guiden still a free agent. How many wide

611
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: receivers do you think the Chargers take in the draft? Well,

612
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: this is what we do know, right, you got Palmer,

613
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: you got Keenan, you got Mike. You got Keenan and

614
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Speaker 1: Mike at a very big number in twenty twenty four,

615
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: and you don't have speed at the moment at the

616
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. So if they address it in the

617
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: first two rounds, three rounds, I wouldn't be the least

618
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: bit surprised. I don't know who else is really out

619
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: there money and that that third fourth wave of free

620
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: agency was speed, because I think that's what they're missing

621
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Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, so you know, I wouldn't be

622
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: surprised if there was a wide receiver. There are twenty

623
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Speaker 1: one that they liked that that had that juice, you know,

624
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: like like as a Flowers who knows well the players

625
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: we all just listen were signed as undrafted free agents

626
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: or veteran minimums. DeAndre Carter very low money deal late

627
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: in the free agent process. Jason Moore was an undrafted,

628
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: Michael Bandy was an undrafted. Aj Giten was an undrafted

629
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Speaker 1: so Tyrant Johnson was an undrafted That's so there, yeah,

630
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: there they'll pull from that pool. They'll they'll bring in

631
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: some guys, some college free priority college free agents that

632
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: they have their eye on on the back end of

633
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Speaker 1: this draft and maybe the first round and maybe the

634
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: second and maybe the third the jail. I know, our

635
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: friend Lancer Line had Jalen Hyatt going to the Chargers

636
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Speaker 1: at twenty one. That seems a little rich based on

637
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 1: everything we're hearing. It was just a monster game against Alabama,

638
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: had a good game against I think Akron and one

639
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: other smaller school, and everything else was just fair to middling.

640
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: So I think that seems a little rich for a

641
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: guy that really is I hate to say, like a

642
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: one trick pony, but that's hey, go that way real fast.

643
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: If the ball comes your way, catch it. And sometimes

644
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: he does and sometimes he doesn't. That's that's that's the

645
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: speed is elite, elite. Take the top off speed and

646
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: it would certainly help the offense, but it seemed like

647
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: that might be a little rich for twenty one. You're

648
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: trying to force something. So they'll draft the receiver. If

649
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: I were a general manager, I would draft the receiver

650
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: every single year. Every year I would draft. I would

651
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: invest a value pick. I'm talking first four rounds in

652
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I just think they are that important

653
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: now in this game, the way it's played, the way

654
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: that it's called. So drafted Josh Palmer two years ago

655
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: in the third round. They're not strangers to it. They'll

656
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: they'll invest in Mike Williams was drafted number seven overall.

657
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen was a third rounder. They'll draft guys, and

658
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: I suspect they'll do the same this year. If maybe

659
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: Higat's there in the second, if it's at Perry, it's

660
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: some of the guys that we talked about with Renner

661
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: last week. So there are players that they can go

662
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: get in the second and third round. It's a deep

663
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver class. It's the way I've heard it describe

664
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: is it's not an elite wide receiver class. It's a

665
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: deep wide receiver class. Yeah, so maybe maybe second, third,

666
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: fourth round is where you see wide receiver. We've talked

667
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: about so many different position groups. That's why this draft

668
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: is such an unknown. Money you mentioned, Hey, if Tom

669
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: is staying true to his board in a guard or

670
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: a tackle, it's best available. Maybe you take that. We

671
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: talked about edge and you know the age of Khalil

672
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Mack and Joey Bosa. We talked about corner, and you

673
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: brought up a great point about having to pay Michael Davison.

674
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: It's not a Samuel having the unknown with with J. C. Jackson.

675
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: We talked about wide receiver, We've talked about tight end,

676
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: We've talked about running back. So at twenty one overall,

677
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's a specific position

678
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: that you're like, man, we have to get this. I

679
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: think everything you have to see where the board goes. Yeah, exactly.

680
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: This is from our guy, our guys at Charger Chat podcast. Hey,

681
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Chris and Money, this Echolo situation is something you never

682
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: want to see with him now taking the negotiations personally,

683
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: with his most recent statements, how will this affect the

684
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: team and do you think he will be able to

685
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: assimilate back in without distractions. Listen, Austin is a professional.

686
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: This is a business. I think both sides realize that

687
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: this is a business, and sometimes feelings are hurt in business.

688
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you gotta show

689
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: up to work and you know, honor your contract. And

690
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers allowed Austin to go seek a

691
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: trade and that's that's kind of where they are right now.

692
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: So again, April Fifth, who knows, But you know, if

693
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: it comes down to him being back with the Chargers,

694
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that Austin will maintain his professionalism

695
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: and give his his all and one hundred percent to

696
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: being the best back he can be for the Chargers.

697
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: You would hope, certainly. It's it's a position that carries

698
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: a lot of violence, you know, a lot of incoming

699
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: violence to it. So to me, it's hard to expect

700
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: someone to not have that in the back of their mind.

701
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I've got to go out and get a new contract.

702
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: I've got a couple more prime earning years. I can't

703
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: afford to get hurt. We know Austin took on all

704
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: commerce you know he never went down on first contact.

705
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: You hope that's still the case. The one thing I'll

706
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: say you mentioned it, he's professional. He's still making six

707
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: and a half million bucks from the Chargers is a

708
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: lot of money that he's getting paid this year for

709
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: his services, and he's got to prove to other teams

710
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: that he's still got it. If his thought is I'm

711
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: going to be a free agent, I want to get

712
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: a big money deal and I'm going to go into

713
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: the open market next year and make that money, well

714
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: now you got to show it, and you've got to

715
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: show that you still got it, so that it's essentially

716
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: a free agent prove it year for him that he

717
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: is going to be the touchdown leader and back to

718
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: back to back seasons and continue to be that touchdown maker.

719
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna want those carries and he's gonna want those numbers.

720
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: So he's gonna want to try to get to a

721
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: hundred catches again. So he's gonna be out there making

722
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: his point to the other teams that are going to

723
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: be interested in him at this time next year. If

724
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: the Chargers aren't selfishly and it's not my money and

725
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: it's not my cap, that I have to manage. I

726
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: would love it if they could figure out a way

727
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: to tack on a year. To me, that'd be the

728
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: best case. Can you take him it was age twenty

729
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: nine year, give them a little bit more money, and

730
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: that way you kind of meet in the middle. Hey,

731
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: you're not getting a three year deal at twenty eight.

732
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: It's teams just aren't going to do it. They're not

733
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: going to give you big money into that year thirty

734
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: age thirty age thirty one year. But we'll give you

735
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more as thank you for the previous

736
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: two years, and we believe you can still be an

737
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: effective back for at least the next two. So here's

738
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: a little something makes feel better. I wonder if that

739
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately time has pat that ship is sailed,

740
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: and that's not going to happen. But to me, that

741
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: and again, I'm not the one that's got to figure

742
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: out how to make all this cap work and get

743
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: everything to fit with all the needs and the depth.

744
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, you've already got the guy for six point

745
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: two five, and there's really no reason to do it

746
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: other than I'm not operating from just a straight business standpoint.

747
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: I guess I'm operating from a bit of an emotional

748
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: standpoint as well, But to me, that would be the

749
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: best case. Winning also raises your profile, right, So if

750
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: this is the last year of his deal and the

751
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Chargers in and he does everything he's done in the

752
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: last two years, it'll make him that much more attractive

753
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: on the open market too. If if that's what it's

754
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: going to be in twenty twenty four, we love aust

755
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: and I think they'll go ahead. On the flip side

756
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: of that too, Chris is he may not want that.

757
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the Chargers already offered it. It's possible the Chargers

758
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: are like, hey, we'll give you a year, and he

759
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: and his agent said, that's not what we're looking for.

760
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: We're willing for long term. We do not want a year.

761
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: The last thing that they may say, the last thing

762
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: that they want is to take him into his year

763
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: twenty nine. They're trying to get that three years at

764
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight because now that he's taken through twenty nine O,

765
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: there's no chance we're getting another deal after this. That's

766
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: not you know, in the minimum range. So it's possible

767
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: that they're just not interested in that too. I don't

768
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: want to make that a one sided position of well,

769
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: the Chargers should just do this. Aculer may not want

770
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: it that. They may have said, we'll give you one

771
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: extra year, we'll give you a bump up to let's

772
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: say nine million bucks or something, and they said, no,

773
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: not interested. Yep, that's that's something that is TBD. Again,

774
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: we're at the beginning of April, got a long way

775
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: to go until training camp at the end of July. So, um,

776
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: this is from Brandon aside from John Johnson. What free

777
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: agents would you like to see the team pursue either

778
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: pre or post draft. Keep in mind guys like Kyle

779
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: van Noy and Morgan Fox and Bryce Callahan. I believe

780
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: they were all signed after the draft last year money,

781
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: So um, I would listen, there's a there's a lot

782
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: of decent players I shouldn't say decent, A lot of

783
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: good players that are still available in this like third, fourth,

784
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: fifth wave of free agency. UM, I don't know if

785
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: there's anybody that stands out to you. I was taking

786
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: a look at, you know, even up pulling up Greg

787
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: Rosenthal's top one hundred right now and dock Ways out there.

788
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying Dockways that one name that stood out

789
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: to me the most. Jadeveon Clowney really good on the

790
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: edge to help with the run, but not they not

791
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: necessarily the best pass rusher Rocky is scene at corner.

792
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: Reisner interior or Isaiah Wynn, who's just been a disaster.

793
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters interesting coming off the ACLA. Now. Leonard Floyd's

794
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: interesting because we know we know Brandon Staley loves him.

795
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: He's not someone that's gonna come cheap. But if you

796
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to craft the contract. We

797
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: know that Staley loves that guy, had him in Chicago,

798
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: had him in LA. So that's possibility. Old friend alert

799
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram. Would he want to come back and play

800
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: his last year on the charge unit? Situational pass Rodger

801
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: at thirty five. Frank Clark was let go by the

802
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: by the Chiefs, so he's out there. Heck, we know

803
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: full well what he can do, as having to face

804
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. You already mentioned Bryce Callahan

805
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: is still out there. I'm sure Brandon Staley wants John

806
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: Johnson to me, that's I think that's a lowise position.

807
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: I think they're comfortable with that. They don't want to

808
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: spend the money so to me, those are me those

809
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: are just like what is it going to cost you?

810
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: What are we what are we looking at? How much

811
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: do you want? How long do you want? Can we

812
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: make it work? Sort of thing? But yeah, one of

813
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: those edge rushers in Gockway, Clark, Um Floyd, I'm a

814
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: super cheap side of thing Ingram. So it's bottom line,

815
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: there's guys. Yeah, there's players out there. Yeah, there's there's

816
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: definitely players out there from Louise who would be a

817
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: good replacement for Carter as a punt returner wide receiver. Ford.

818
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: Do you think they could double dip and draft two

819
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers? You know, last week we talked about DeAndre

820
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Carter and I think somebody somebody made mention that we

821
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: like it was overblown. How how big of a loss

822
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: it is. I'll just say this, the special teams the

823
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: last three or four years before DeAndre Carter and Andre

824
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: Roberts got into that position, it was tough. It was tough,

825
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: and when you stabilize it, obviously you want to make

826
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: sure you have somebody who can you could pass the

827
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: torch too. I don't know who that guy is. I'm

828
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: sure Ryan Ficken does. And Ryan Ficken has a plan

829
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: and Brandon Salia has a plan. Uh, I don't know

830
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: if that guy's on the roster right now, buddy. Maybe

831
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: it's somebody they do draft possible. You know. It's it's

832
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: typically not a position player because you want those guys

833
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: to it's it's a very dangerous position that tends to, unfortunately,

834
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: face a lot of injury. I'm just going through I'm

835
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: going through player statistics here, so let's go returning. Um,

836
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: how who are our best return that's for team. The

837
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting is when you go through it, it's

838
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: not like we mentioned this last year, last year, last week.

839
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: It's not like there's a ton of a ton of

840
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 1: elite players out there. So I think that's that's something

841
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: to keep in mind as I'm looking for like Keishan Nixon. Right,

842
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: these aren't household names m waganu Wanagu. There we go,

843
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: guy from Minnesota, Brandon Powell, Jerome for these are the

844
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: top returners in terms of sort of who you know,

845
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones A mir Abdulah, think about plucking him off

846
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: the scrap heap as a backup running back. Returner DeAndre

847
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: Carter was seventh tied for seventh in kickoff returns. In

848
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: punt returns, you had let's see Keyshaan Nixon at twelve seven,

849
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones at twelve five. DeAndre Carter was fourth at

850
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: eleven seven, but really third because Pharaoh Cooper at the

851
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: top and only returned twelve of them in five games. So,

852
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Braxton Barrios, what I'm getting at is, these are all Ray,

853
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Ray McLeod. These are a lot of these are free agents,

854
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, inexpensive free agents that are signed, and that's

855
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: something that you should be able to find. And maybe

856
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: a lot of it is more about Thicken and his

857
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: system and the blocking and getting that part of it right,

858
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: and the returner a sort of the cherry on the

859
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: on the Sunday. All right, this is for money I

860
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: fear most likely Chargers win fourteen games or a top

861
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: three offense. This is for Matt money Smith. Fourteens a

862
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: lot of games. Did anybody win fourteen games last year?

863
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Right, Oh my god? How many

864
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: won fourteen games last year? Right? Yeah? I think thirteen

865
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: was was the high. I want to say. Yeah. The

866
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Bills were third. Oh no, the Eagles went fourteen and three.

867
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: So considering one out of thirty two did it last year?

868
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say fourteen and three gonna be tough in

869
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: a division with Patrick Mahomes in a conference with where

870
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: where you're going. Let's see the Chargers, if I remember right,

871
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: they're going to play the AFC East, so they've got

872
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: to play Josh Allen, Miami, Bill Belichick, the Jet Robert

873
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Salas Jets defense. I think they get what are our

874
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: I can't remember it's the NFC North this year, so

875
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: maybe you catch a little bit of a break there,

876
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: but you got a lot of teams on the com Yeah,

877
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: fourteen seems a little it seems very unlikely. I'll just

878
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. As far as the offense,

879
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: I expect the offense to be very good. I do.

880
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore is the right guy, Justin Herbert

881
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: is an elite quarterback, still has Mike Williams, Keenan Allen,

882
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, a solid offensive line. I would not be

883
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: surprised if I'm so fourteen. I'm going through all of

884
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: these now, No, no, no, it's better than all of these,

885
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: better than all of these, better than all of these.

886
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: Eagles offense could end up better than the Chargers. Cowboys

887
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: lose Kellen Moore and Mike McCarthy's talking about running the

888
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: ball more now better than that. So right now I've

889
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: got one potential I think in the NFC in the Eagles, Denver,

890
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: no Raiders, no Chargers, Chiefs Okay, So maybe that's a

891
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: second offense that's ahead of them through the South, and

892
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville would be the would be the only one in

893
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: the North. The Bengals, we know, the Ravens, it's all

894
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Lamar dependent. Don't know what's going to happen there. And

895
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: the Browns interesting full season with the Shawn Watson, all

896
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: the weapons they have there, Nick Chubb, Maury Cooper, they

897
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: got a lot going on in Cleveland. Or the Charger

898
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: is going to be better than the Bills on offense.

899
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll go top five, top five offense for

900
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers next season. I feel good about that, all right. Chris,

901
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: does this team view defensive line as a need? It's

902
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: a good question, I think with Austin Johnason coming back, Sebaston,

903
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: Joseph Day, Morgan, Fox, Tito a Bonia, I think everyone

904
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: forgot Tito got hurt too, So that's a nice nucleus,

905
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 1: but you can never have enough, and you know, maybe

906
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: maybe it is a neat in the draft money. Huge

907
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: need just because we talked about it, you know, I

908
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: think you really wanted Chris Rump to take that next

909
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: step and unfortunately got banged up again. He had flashes,

910
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: that's for sure, but so it's a huge need. Joey

911
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: Bosa was injured for nearly the entire season and it

912
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: was a struggle to replace him. Van noy finally started

913
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: come on on in the back, and I'm hopeful I

914
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: didn't mention Van Noi as a free agent. I'm very

915
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: hopeful because we hear he wants to stay out here.

916
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping they can figure something out with Kyle

917
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: to come back because he really started to settle into

918
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: that role as an edge as opposed to an inside linebacker.

919
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: So they need, yes, they need help. Don't know when

920
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson or Tito We're going to be back. Braden

921
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Fijocos out there shopping for a deal from a team. Yes,

922
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: they defensive line. Braydon signed with the Steelers yesterday, So

923
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: that's Steelers signed with the Steelers. Yeah, that's right, So

924
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: he's gone. Um, Yeah, I think especially at edge, especially

925
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: at edge, because I don't know if you can fully

926
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: go into twenty twenty three confident that that Joey and

927
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: Khalil are going to be on the field for all

928
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: seventeen and Rump is your third guy. And so love

929
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: that they brought back Morgan Fox. Yes, it is a priority.

930
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: They need another edge rusher. They could probably use another

931
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: body or two on the inside. They like Chris Hinton

932
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: a lot. They really liked what he did when he

933
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: came on a couple last I don't know, four or

934
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: five games and then into the playoffs. So I think

935
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: that's why Fijoko was let go. They decided to keep

936
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: hitting and between those two. So all right, this is

937
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: from bull Fit twenty four. Oh no, no it's not.

938
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: I already did that one, Alvaro. If American Kaide and

939
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Robinson are out of the first should the Chargers trade

940
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: back to get more draft capital and hope on getting

941
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: Gibbs Washington Hyatt. We kind of talked about, Yes, we

942
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: talked about that. My preference is that they trade backs.

943
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: That's what my preference is. I think they need to

944
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: get deeper, they need depth. We just talked about that.

945
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Defensive line. They need bodies on the defensive line. I

946
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: would love to see another offensive lineman draft at high

947
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: I'd love to see wide receivers like I want everything,

948
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: and unfortunately they don't have thirty picks. So I'm trying

949
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: to get more picks to get as much as if

950
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm the Chargers, I'm trying to get more picks to

951
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: get more players, more bites at the apple to try

952
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: to find starters. This is from Gerald Garrow. We haven't

953
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: talked about Darwin that much, so this is a good question.

954
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: Do you think Darwin James will play near the line

955
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: of scrimmage this season instead of moving him all around

956
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: the defense from last season. I think people are saying

957
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Darwin playing close to the line will help better benefit

958
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: the defense, so instead of using him as Yeah, so

959
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: it's but yeah, it's not. It's not on the line

960
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, Chris, it's just close to the ball that

961
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: the I get why you put him up high, But

962
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: to me, the idea of being able to move him

963
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: around just speaks to how elite of a player he is.

964
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: That you can stack him opposite Travis Kelsey, that you

965
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: can put him on a team's best receiver on their

966
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: tight end. We saw him on Davante Adams at the

967
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: end of that Raider game when it started getting close,

968
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: like that's that's what. He's a special player, no matter

969
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: what he's doing, if he's rushing the pastor if he's

970
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage to stop the run. But

971
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a little bit by just leaving him,

972
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: by just treating him as a box safety. He can

973
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: play slot, he can play high, he can he can

974
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: play edge. So that's that's why they use them the

975
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: way they do. To me, the more interesting question, you know,

976
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: apologies to I don't remember who you said asked it.

977
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean to reframe your question, but are we

978
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: going to see him closer to the line of scrimmage

979
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: more often? Don't for me, I don't want to remember.

980
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: The vision last year was we're drafting JT. Woods, We're

981
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: going to play JT and Nas high. That's going to

982
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: allow us to put Drwin wherever we want, and it

983
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: just didn't come to fruition. So my hope is Allowie

984
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: and JT now can play high, and Derwin can do

985
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: what we thought he was going to have a shot

986
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: to do last year that JT with a year of

987
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: trying to figure this thing out. Because we know he's

988
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: got the we know he's got the trades, he's got

989
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the speed, he's got the ability. He just did not

990
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: quite have the vision and the instincts last year. And

991
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: that's very It's a lot to ask of a high safety.

992
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping what full year of being able to

993
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: take in very complicated defense that Brandon Staley runs, that

994
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: JT is going to be ready for that role and

995
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot more of Derwin close

996
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage all over the field with

997
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: those two guys high. Yeah, three months from now when

998
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: we do our training camp storylines, j T woods big

999
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: one leap from year one of the year two is

1000
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: going to be one of the main storylines. Foa Heli.

1001
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of Alohe, what are we expecting from Gilman and

1002
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: Nick Nieman this year? Both guys stepped out towards the

1003
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: end of the year and played well. Do we see

1004
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: extended roles for them? You mentioned Alohe and how it's

1005
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: probably his job listen. Nieman's been great on special teams.

1006
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Is that somebody who maybe get a little bit more

1007
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: run and linebacker, not with the signing of Kendricks, because

1008
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: coach Daley plays a ton of just one linebacker six

1009
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: defensive back sort of sets right with Derwin acting as

1010
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: that second linebacker. So could you see him, Yeah, I

1011
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: mean that would mean he's not taken away reps from

1012
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks. Eric's gonna be the green dot, would be

1013
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: my guest. He'll essentially be the play caller on that

1014
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. That's why they brought him in.

1015
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: They talked about not just his ability, but his intellect

1016
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: and what they wanted from him. So he's going to

1017
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: be on the field like Drew was last year every

1018
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: single play, which means you're now talking about Nieman instead

1019
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: of Kenneth Murray. And that would mean that Nick took

1020
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: a big step and Kenneth didn't. So is that possible. Yeah,

1021
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: it's possible, but I'd be very surprised. He's an elite

1022
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: special teams player and those guys are important. Gosh, we

1023
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: know that. So he'll continue to be an elite special

1024
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: teams player. But if he's playing more, it's probably a

1025
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: product of Kenneth not progressing and not playing well. That's

1026
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: my vision of how he would get on the field.

1027
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't really see any other path for him. Guys,

1028
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: thank you for all your questions. I don't know if

1029
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: we got to all of them. We got to most

1030
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: of them. What about Lindsay's Well, you have to think

1031
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: we're any of him this one. So yeah, our good

1032
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: friend Lindsay theory. Um, who are they taking with the

1033
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: twenty first overall pick? I figured that's your Chris money.

1034
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that me? That's is that me? Okay?

1035
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: So so twenty first overall on April fifth. I don't

1036
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: think the running back's gonna be there. I don't think

1037
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: Kincaide's gonna be there. I'm gonna say Michael Mayer because

1038
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: of past Notre Dame players who have been drafted by

1039
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers, it's a safe batman, it's a safe bet

1040
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: and uh and he's gonna do it all tight end

1041
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: and listen. I think I think Brett's video maybe influenced

1042
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: me a little bit too. And I think he can

1043
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: he can do a lot of the things that Dalton

1044
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: can do. He maybe not his skilled with with the

1045
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: ball skills, but um, Michael Mayer overall solid tight end

1046
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert. What about you money, I'm gonna go

1047
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: zay Flowers today on April fifth, I go Zay Flowers.

1048
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Just need to have I like I like the zay

1049
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: Flowers pick. Yeah, I need to have explained very head

1050
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: players on this on this offense need it desperately. I

1051
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: want to see more balls getting pushed down field, and

1052
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: I think Say would would encourage that. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: d lineman. I wouldn't know. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind whatever, But yeah, thanks Lindsay. Yep, that

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Speaker 1: was Lindsay actually chimed in first two, which I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I think I think I put this sweet

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Speaker 1: So there you go, thank you, perfect time. A Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know we should do another one the day before

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Speaker 1: the draft. We'll do another Q and a day before

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Speaker 1: some of these questions. Money, I'll work on a guest

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Speaker 1: for next week. I always appreciate your time, brother, We'll

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