1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: The story had everything except sex. You had family problems, 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: you had mental illness, you had violence, you have all 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: of the politics. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, the host of tenfold More Wicked 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: on Exactly Right, and our third season is set in 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: my home state of Texas. It's a wild story about 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: a prominent family ripped apart and a killer that might 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: have gotten away with murder. 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: It was a memorable story. You don't have an associate 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: justice being murdered very often. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: This season is about a titan in Texas politics in 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: the nineteen thirties who was murdered one night along with 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: his wife. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: It comes across as a pretty caring, nice man, which 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: I'd like to believe that he. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Was very respected politically influential. It's about a killer with 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: a grudge and some serious problems that were never treated. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: He had these resentments which were understandable, but I also 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: think he had voices telling him that he should do 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: something about them. 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: That just doesn't sound like something that would happen as 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: an accident. What it sounds like is a failed suicide attempt. 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: It's about how we treat people with mental illness and 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: the justice system in America. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 5: Most people would agree that, yes, mental illness is in 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 5: fact an illness, and people shouldn't be held accountable for 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 5: something that they didn't have control over. Unless you're the 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: victim of that crime, then obviously you feel very differently. 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 6: I didn't really like know that I had been stabbed. 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 6: I just realized I couldn't move my hand and I 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 6: saw blood. You just want them to feel the pain 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 6: that you felt. 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: It's about family secrets. 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: You know, my grandfather was the town angel and the 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: home devil. 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: And most importantly, this season is about why these murders happened. 37 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: The question is at what point is delusion profound enough 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: for you to be forgiven for murder. 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm Kate Winkler Dawson and this is season three F 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Tenfold More Wicked, a podcast about a fractured family in 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: nineteen thirties Texas. Season three, F Tenfold More Wicked premieres 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: on Monday, March twenty ninth on Exactly Right. Subscribe now 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you like to listen.