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Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no

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Speaker 1: no no no knife Man. Welcome to the show, Ridiculous Historians.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ben. How am I supposed to say my name

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Speaker 1: when it's not nearly as cool as a knife man?

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Speaker 1: I'm Noll the or the ordinary. We are joined with

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Speaker 1: our guests. Super producer, give him a big hand. He's

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Speaker 1: got his own sound cue super producer Paul dekant. Uh.

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Speaker 1: No love lost was super producer Casey Pegrum, who will

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Speaker 1: return to his regular American life. Wait, no love lost?

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Speaker 1: You mean that? You mean they're they're bitter enemies. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that what no love lost means? You know, I'm using

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Speaker 1: I think that's how it always occurred to me, as

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Speaker 1: any to begin with. Right, Well, let's let's take it back.

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Speaker 1: Let's make it something positive the way the Ghostbusters charged

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Speaker 1: Remember that that's a science joke, Ben, Is that a

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Speaker 1: as you can tell from our intro, it's Friday, it's

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Speaker 1: been a long week, and today's episode is about Ghostbusters.

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Speaker 1: You know. Uh it touches on something spooky. There's that.

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Speaker 1: We are still in the throes of Halleween month. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: the most hallowed of Wiens. And weirdly enough, the band

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Speaker 1: It's all happening. It's all happening. Well, uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: episode as that that's our that's our slow, circuitous route

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Speaker 1: and I feel like this falls into all of those categories.

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Speaker 1: It does, and it takes us to our Our story

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Speaker 1: begins long, long ago, but let's start in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the story. In nineteen eighties Italy, in a region

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Speaker 1: They found a necropolis that housed the corpses of people

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Speaker 1: known as the Longo Bards. The Longo Bards also, it

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Speaker 1: the same, known as the Lombards or the long Beards. Yes,

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Speaker 1: these these Germanic people. According to Lombard historian Paul the Deacon,

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Speaker 1: Nol As you said, they were known for being warlike. Ma,

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Speaker 1: but features Odin and Freya and a lot of this

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Speaker 1: But this is our spooky tail for the week and

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