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Speaker 4: At the Star.

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Speaker 5: Now your hosts Barry Church, Anthony dor Set, de Montree Moore,

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Speaker 5: and newly Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Here we are.

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Speaker 6: Players Lounge coming in from that WC podcast studio, home

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Speaker 6: of the Dallas Cowboys official headquarters.

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Speaker 4: The team is practicing right now.

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Speaker 6: So as we walk in there, you see where the

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Speaker 6: team is out there getting ready for the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: Anthony dor Set.

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Speaker 6: Former NFL players here, Trey Moore, fourth NFL player, Aggie

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Speaker 6: Hall of Famous here, Barry Churchy NFL player Alito Rocket

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Speaker 6: Hall of Famer here. Yes, sirs, still will not give

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Speaker 6: forty the club and I had longer arms.

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Speaker 4: I'll be able to speech up in there.

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Speaker 2: And you're about to get a promotion, getting another paid.

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Speaker 6: So why are we on the fact that Church ain't

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Speaker 6: giving no money? Alma mon, I mean I give credit,

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Speaker 6: he consisted.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how you.

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Speaker 4: Doing over there with your donation?

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Speaker 7: Hey man, I'm not you know, let me go ahead. Correct,

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Speaker 7: you've been saying hall of Famer, you've been speaking there

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Speaker 7: into resistance, So uh, I got a case of the

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Speaker 7: baby churches.

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Speaker 2: I get him the arms and short. Hey, they said

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Speaker 2: I ain't paid enough. That's why ain't in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. Can't reach down and I can't read. I'm

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Speaker 2: just here. I'm just here.

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Speaker 7: I support my as we talked ten you know, shout

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Speaker 7: out to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I was a peacock and I let

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Speaker 2: my feathers.

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Speaker 6: Co off.

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Speaker 4: No aggie club membership?

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Speaker 2: What you guys say all that? Bro? Hey, I'm there,

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Speaker 2: I'm there. Hey, did you giving back to Pitt? You?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 8: Man, I haven't that door set endowment.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying. But you know I

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Speaker 4: get I get back through my time and my love

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Speaker 4: and my support.

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Speaker 9: What I got sweat tweet, I got sweat equity.

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Speaker 4: Over there, you wear Toledo shirt. I've seen you. Where

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Speaker 4: have you seen any blue and gold on this man?

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Speaker 10: It's a story behind it. I let you all know

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Speaker 10: you do you all even know that the nickname Toledo? No,

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Speaker 10: because he don't tell you. Man, you don't support it,

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Speaker 10: you don't support But I'm just.

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Speaker 7: Saying, what's what's your what's your war cry? What's the

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Speaker 7: we ain't really got no war cri signed or something.

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Speaker 4: What's your mascot?

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Speaker 2: What a rocket? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Stalk glass's glass ball.

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Speaker 2: He said, you need to lift off into them pockets.

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Speaker 2: He can't reached. Man, can't you give him one hundred dollars?

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be like Shot, come blessed this man with

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Speaker 4: a bag. Shout black Jackson, blessed this man with a

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Speaker 4: bad the Hall of Fame. You know what they do? Okay,

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Speaker 4: they put him in the Hall of Fame for they

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Speaker 4: saw the bag.

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Speaker 6: They said, right, okay, So somebody in Toledo saw Berry

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Speaker 6: Church get paid by Shot. What an opportune time to

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Speaker 6: put him in the hall. So you come up there

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Speaker 6: for it. They shaking your hand, and nobody from there.

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Speaker 2: Did you.

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Speaker 7: They did get back to you, but y'all see, y'all

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Speaker 7: see what can paid them the best black pedal in

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Speaker 7: the league.

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Speaker 2: Let me say, get out of there, t stuff. I'll

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Speaker 2: get back to you on it.

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Speaker 9: You know, gradu athletic being in there, congratulations on man.

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Speaker 7: I feel like my just coming in like a year

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Speaker 7: or two, you know, I seen my boy. Look jokers

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Speaker 7: going there, Johnny Man, hopefully I will be soon. I

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Speaker 7: went in there sat Rocky.

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Speaker 11: He did.

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Speaker 2: He did have a whole revolution in that man. He did.

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Speaker 4: Johnny went in there together, Yeah, yeah he did, he did. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: went in there with Mike. They did. Okay, So when

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Speaker 4: you make sure you bring.

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Speaker 7: It back, man, you got what they said. You gotta

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Speaker 7: make them feel good to do something like that. And

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Speaker 7: the way my checkings are savings is set up.

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Speaker 9: You got you got that Kevin Hart.

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Speaker 4: Wave by up holding tight on to you and we

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Speaker 4: need to get We didn't get some of that.

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Speaker 8: I'm not n I l exactly when I said I

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Speaker 8: need back playing on my man, I said, I am

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Speaker 8: doing that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what what do you say?

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Speaker 4: Actually?

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Speaker 2: I started this barbecue this man.

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Speaker 4: I was thanks, I get list Top ten since one

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Speaker 4: staving age. Jamon Clanning Cowboys signed Club forty two baby

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Speaker 4: Club forty two, Yeah, wearing forty two third Club forty

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Speaker 4: giving away to thirty three. I can't hold what you

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Speaker 4: want it hold?

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to know?

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Speaker 4: Anybody? We're holding off the shirt shirt?

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Speaker 2: Calm down, y'all, do three three away like I was fine.

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Speaker 4: Got to hold it for the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I wish y'all could see all camera right now. Away.

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Speaker 2: His thumbs are toiling over there, just.

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Speaker 4: Giving away the trade tray, like, man, but what's available?

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Speaker 4: Thirty three three? You know, can't you out?

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Speaker 2: I'm good club forty two right now?

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Speaker 8: Can't get twelve? Can't wear none of them numbers? Oh wow,

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Speaker 8: there retired numbers.

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Speaker 2: Wrong.

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Speaker 6: You were twenty you were twenty two. Man, So nobody

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Speaker 6: you can nobody. You can't get to Okay, you can't

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Speaker 6: get the eight.

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Speaker 2: You'll do that.

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Speaker 4: You can't get the twelve.

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Speaker 2: Stop.

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Speaker 4: You can't get the twenty two, Hayes and Smith. You

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Speaker 4: cannot get the seventy.

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Speaker 2: Four, Bob, you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: You don't don't. You won't even see it in training camp.

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Speaker 9: No, but you can get one of ten number thirty

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Speaker 9: three it was one ten?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we did more.

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Speaker 8: You could put all them eighty eight numbers together and

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But it's out there for you to like it. You

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Speaker 4: have any Anthony Dor said, father's Tony Dor set that.

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Speaker 2: What they say.

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Speaker 4: They came and like, hey, look over the shoulder, look

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Speaker 4: it over my shoulder.

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Speaker 2: He got a poster right.

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Speaker 4: There, he got it right. They just gave it to

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Speaker 4: the forty two.

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Speaker 2: Rubbing it right, you go.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants some sing what do he used to wear?

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Speaker 2: Man? Now?

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Speaker 9: But he in'ate one thing about it. He started off

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Speaker 9: the year right.

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Speaker 2: Man, he hard.

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Speaker 4: So with that being said, where we're pride.

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Speaker 6: Javante Williams might be the biggest offensive surprise that we've seen. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: touchdowns in both games he's played this year. The first

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Speaker 6: that he had on that touchdown, it was thirty yards

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Speaker 6: that he had against the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Man, I thought he was gonna get walked down.

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Speaker 7: He was.

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Speaker 2: He got in quick.

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Speaker 4: He's not miles.

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Speaker 2: Right, he's not fumbling. Oh my bad. You were talking

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Speaker 7: The players would not be happening in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: He got some people that can be rude and say

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Speaker 7: it right in the face, and then you got some

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Speaker 2: He would have definitely got clown. I ain't gonna you've

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Speaker 4: We can walk down like that. Exactly what is a

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Speaker 4: film session like that?

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Speaker 2: You're not You're not gonna do it.

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Speaker 7: Fil You're not gonna do it because you might trigger

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Speaker 7: the coach depending on if you want a lot, if

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Speaker 7: you won. Oh yeah, you're gonna do that because coach,

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Speaker 7: coach gonna be like, oh man, you're gonna let them

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Speaker 7: get on you like that, like no better you lost

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Speaker 7: and you make that joke. Boy, Well, why y'all think

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Speaker 7: it's all fun and games.

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Speaker 2: We get clowned up.

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Speaker 10: I remember when if somebody got bombed on, like if

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Speaker 10: you got straight up beating bombed on.

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Speaker 12: However, scandal would be in the back corner.

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Speaker 2: You know what play is.

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Speaker 10: Coming, so you know what you see the breakdown. They

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Speaker 10: show you the play number and you're like, man, play

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Speaker 10: thirty five. It's the player I got burned on. You like, man,

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Speaker 10: hurry up and hope you fast forward it? Are you

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Speaker 10: hear in the back of the scandal some more.

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Speaker 2: It's like.

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Speaker 10: But he's just like, man, here we go. And then

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Speaker 10: you know, coach gonna rewind it. See the technique right here? Man,

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Speaker 10: that play if it might go by in a minute,

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Speaker 10: but to you, it feels like you're never thirty.

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Speaker 4: Minutes play this, but this much we'll get in there.

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Speaker 9: Like it's times in games where you'll do something like God,

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Speaker 9: that's gonna be on.

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Speaker 4: You know, immediately before you even get this.

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Speaker 2: And what y'all not doing this? Y'all not tell you

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Speaker 2: the truth.

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Speaker 7: It's always some person in the locker room that or

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Speaker 7: in each position room where he gets there early. He

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Speaker 7: might only have two or three plays, but he didn't

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Speaker 7: watch the whole film. Hey we wait for play twenty three?

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Speaker 7: That was That was At first I didn't understand it,

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Speaker 7: but eventually it came to me.

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Speaker 4: Bringing popcorn from places when I was just.

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Speaker 12: Man love one of the defensive me it is like,

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Speaker 12: let we go, can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna chew it out to day like man.

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Speaker 4: Okay, squirrel skeandards whistling.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy.

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Speaker 6: And what about them times when you know something happened,

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Speaker 6: you see an n zone point in somebody looking that way.

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Speaker 4: They call him out since the ball it call quick man,

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Speaker 4: that's you all right, what you're doing right there?

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Speaker 12: You ain't hustling like it was just then they go

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Speaker 12: back and forth.

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Speaker 10: And then because we had Campo and Maxie in my

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Speaker 10: rookie years, so they always like to joke like Maxie

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Speaker 10: ca yeah, Dave Campo and Brent Max They always liked

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Speaker 10: the joke. So you got burnt, especially if we won,

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Speaker 10: but you got burnt. They joined in on the road session. Man,

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Speaker 10: we don't we don't teach this technique.

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Speaker 4: What is this?

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Speaker 2: I thought you was a four to three guy.

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Speaker 7: What is this like?

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Speaker 2: Man? They joke with you now, it was funny time.

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Speaker 7: The worst one I had was Jim Washburn. I will

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Speaker 7: never forget wash Yes, I had washing me man. I've

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Speaker 7: been fortunate to be around some guys and I never

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Speaker 7: understood why Colin Jenkins and the rest of them made

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Speaker 7: the jokes they did in New York, and they was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: The way you make that wrong might be getting man,

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Speaker 4: It was one year I was in Tennessee.

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Speaker 8: because y'all too hype in here, Like let's chilling the music.

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Speaker 6: And that was on things the lessons that you learned.

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Speaker 6: Kenneth Simms, Great Kenny Simms man would educate me on hey,

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Speaker 6: So here comes Jadavian Clowney, fresh off signing. During the

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Speaker 6: Hell contracts. Contract is done. Clowney met with the MEETIA

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Speaker 6: this week. I was there and I said, how much

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Speaker 2: For this guy? Won't you thinking the specialist? Brother? What

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 2: Realistically? It can go two ways.

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Speaker 7: Me myself personally, I've been the journey man where I've waited,

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Speaker 12: Covering a receiver making those movements, it could be rough

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Speaker 10: Is it the same as a pass rusher, like using

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Speaker 8: Once he gets here, that's like, that's our main thing

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Speaker 8: that we're concerned about. You know. Of course, you sign

447
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Speaker 8: him for however much money, you get him off the couch,

448
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 8: and boom, as soon as you get him here, he

449
00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 8: gets to some type of soft tissue injury or something

450
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 8: like that, and then he's not even a factor for it.

451
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 7: The only thing I'm gonna say about that is playing

452
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 7: Devil's advocate. It's different when you're a VET saying hey,

453
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Speaker 7: I'm out of training camp and week one, I know

454
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Speaker 7: I got a job or I'm sitting over here doing

455
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 7: that holdout. When you're a guy that and this is

456
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Speaker 7: not him. I know, obviously he said he had options,

457
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Speaker 7: But when you're a guy and you go past week one,

458
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 7: it's easy to be over there.

459
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: If you ain't getting.

460
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 7: Those calls or stuff looks a little gloomy and stuff

461
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 7: like that to let it slack off.

462
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Speaker 6: But there's a guy he's always had calls, right, yeah,

463
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 6: you know, he's always this is a game.

464
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Speaker 2: He likes exaxactly.

465
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Speaker 7: So that's why that's why you ask yourself, like some

466
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Speaker 7: guys like I've been around disciplined vests that get it done,

467
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Speaker 7: and I've been around disciplined vests that are so disciplined

468
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Speaker 7: that know their self to where they say, hey, I'm

469
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Speaker 7: gonna slack off a week because I know I'm not

470
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Speaker 7: really going in there the week two or week three,

471
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Speaker 7: if that makes sense. And if he took that approach,

472
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 7: that's where you have to worry about that soft tissue.

473
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Speaker 7: So it can go both ways. As a double heads order.

474
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Speaker 10: I need him to be in there for them pass.

475
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Speaker 10: And that's sad because that's exactly what happened last week

476
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Speaker 10: with Russell. I mean those situations where it's I mean,

477
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 10: think about this. He there was a third and twenty, Yeah,

478
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 10: a third and twenty with Russell Wilson all there and

479
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 10: he completed it for the first down. I mean, and

480
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 10: those type of situations, you gotta have somebody that put

481
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Speaker 10: a little bit of pressure on the quarterback because these

482
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Speaker 10: guys in the league are just too good. The quarterbacks

483
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 10: are too good in this lead to where have you

484
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 10: let him sit in the pocket all day? They gonna

485
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Speaker 10: find a way to pick apart your secondary. So I

486
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Speaker 10: just need him to be in there in those situations

487
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Speaker 10: where it's a must gotta have it passing situation, and

488
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Speaker 10: let's see what he got.

489
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Speaker 7: Let's think he's blockers though, So yeah, this is I

490
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 7: expect him to go in there and get a decent

491
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Speaker 7: play count. But I expect us to see Sam Williams

492
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Speaker 7: one of those other guys that's already been here familiar

493
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Speaker 7: really Houston.

494
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Speaker 2: Sam or he's been the best one.

495
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Speaker 7: I see one of them really taking another stop because

496
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Speaker 7: they're going to demand the double team on clowneys.

497
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Speaker 6: You're going to a round. I'm thinking, if this is

498
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Speaker 6: where you need guys who've been here to do something,

499
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Speaker 6: same will Here's. He's been vocal about, you know, wanting

500
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Speaker 6: to be a cowboy.

501
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: In last year.

502
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Speaker 4: He was frustrated times about his play. So you know

503
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Speaker 4: you're here.

504
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Speaker 6: They bring back Fouler. I've given the rookie as a

505
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 6: rocky some slack. This is hard and you're not You're

506
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 6: not the tallest dude.

507
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: It's hard.

508
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Speaker 8: It's just it's learning adjustment. It's adjustment going from Carlie

509
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 8: coming into the NFL. It's it's it's always is. He's

510
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 8: gonna be timing speed, it's gonna be strength, it's gonna

511
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 8: be it could be just terminology.

512
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 4: It's gonna be so many different I.

513
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Speaker 7: Think so much as time is really just more it's

514
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 7: more so about just getting comfortable because he's showing us bursts,

515
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 7: like he has the hand placement. I've been watching him

516
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 7: doing cross chops like his past rush moves, the ones

517
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 7: that he are winning like cleanly. On is showing all that.

518
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 7: So I think with him, he just needs to be

519
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 7: paired up with a better VET, and I think Clowney

520
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 7: can be that extra grace for him and that young guy,

521
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Speaker 7: and then Houston being the next guy. But after those two,

522
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Speaker 7: I really haven't seen anything from everybody else that we

523
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 7: were supposed to see Wheeler. I'm not like, I'm not

524
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 7: saying nothing from the rest of them. So it's a

525
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Speaker 7: challenge to them, Like everybody should be on the edge

526
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Speaker 7: when you bring somebody in in the middle of the

527
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Speaker 7: week and somebody announces before the game is over with,

528
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Speaker 7: we just signed a guy that's known as the pass rusher,

529
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Speaker 7: the guy.

530
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Speaker 8: If they won't do that for them, dbs, they just

531
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Speaker 8: shook up that has been shaking up, you know what

532
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Speaker 8: I mean. They have not done anything to the defensive

533
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Speaker 8: back room and that definitely needs some somebody coming back

534
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Speaker 8: from being injured. They need to get somebody in here house.

535
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Speaker 2: The owner their way, They on their way.

536
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Speaker 4: He told you told you on the way on the way. Yeah,

537
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: on the way you asked, not because you have not,

538
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: Jerry said, you asked, Jerry, Jerry say, I was just.

539
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Speaker 8: Watching practice before we came in here. I saw like

540
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Speaker 8: I think I saw rebel over here still with working

541
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Speaker 8: with some pt like I I know. So like if

542
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Speaker 8: they coming, they ain't they ain't com.

543
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Speaker 4: We go to October surprise for the stretch. Yeah, but

544
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Speaker 4: it's coming. He didn't. He didn't give you a date.

545
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Speaker 2: Like Jesus said, it'll be hers, just not in your time.

546
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Speaker 2: It's on the way the way, just trusting Jerry's time.

547
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Speaker 2: It's on the wat.

548
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Speaker 4: Whatever is going on. Like I'm me and you you

549
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Speaker 4: know been back there.

550
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Speaker 8: We we we know that everybody back there has from

551
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Speaker 8: what we see, seems like they have enough talent to

552
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Speaker 8: be back. Yeah, you know, we got First Round is

553
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 8: back there. We got one of the best dbs from

554
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Speaker 8: a few years.

555
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Speaker 2: Come on.

556
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Speaker 8: It's it's definitely boring, that boiling down to some either

557
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 8: technique more so than anything and accountability. So with that

558
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Speaker 8: being said, like if if the technique is not in

559
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Speaker 8: house to be corrected, you got to bring it from

560
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Speaker 8: outside inside to correct.

561
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Speaker 4: But I got NFL network here.

562
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: Man, what.

563
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: He looked at the Cowboys?

564
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: Look at that man.

565
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 6: Bomb bombs Jones out here, And that's that's when I

566
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: know I just went way off. It's Broncos and coach

567
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 6: Coats right here on the TV screen, And man, I'm

568
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 6: just trying to understand how Joe Shane got a job

569
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Speaker 6: still the Gem and the Giants out here beating.

570
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Speaker 4: The Broncos the whole Danny Dimes looking like a whole

571
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Speaker 4: beat the Broncos.

572
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Speaker 7: Bad news, Man, what I tell you, Sometimes you just

573
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 7: need a new change of scenery. Now, it was funny

574
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 7: that you bring that up. I've seen a stat on

575
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 7: Instagram they said the last three major players that have

576
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 7: left the Giants have all had career breaking like careers

577
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Speaker 7: when they left. Kwan Daniel Jones and then what's the

578
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Speaker 7: dB the left him? It was a dB they said

579
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 7: he was first? Uh did he leapers know? It wasn't

580
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Speaker 7: it was It wasn't It wasn't it wasn't about said

581
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 7: it definitely wasn't him. Yeah, exactly exactly what about him?

582
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: What about him? That's one of your cute dog brothers, Charon?

583
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 4: Real quick?

584
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: Are we watching we already?

585
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 14: Bro?

586
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: That's beating the dead horse. You keep he dead? All right?

587
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: He get paid? He did alright, he gets paid.

588
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 4: He better say them checks. You better say ever last

589
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: dollar them checks. He got up there.

590
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: He just needed top five?

591
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: Was he number?

592
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones did it? You can do it.

593
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: Here, Joe Milton, boy, you know how many people you know.

594
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: Don't don't do Joe like that.

595
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: He's not He's not as good as Joe.

596
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 7: Hold on first category, watch watch, watch out what we're doing?

597
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: Whatever? Three? What are we doing?

598
00:27:59,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 11: Really?

599
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 7: Not bad people people said Daniel Jones was was done

600
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 7: When he left the John's. They was like, oh, he's wrong,

601
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 7: he's out of here. Dabo couldn't do it.

602
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 9: His confidence was shot him knocking the building.

603
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: Everybody tried to pass.

604
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: They had tore him up in the building.

605
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 6: There tore him down, you know, like and I'm starting

606
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 6: to wonder about your your quarterback.

607
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm not doing.

608
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 4: Brutal what the quarterback?

609
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: I never said that ANYTHINGY Richardson was gonna be that guy.

610
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: You know, he told us that I was gonna be

611
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy. Remember that we who was over there?

612
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: I said, I said Joe the train. I said, j

613
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: J looked good.

614
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: He had one quarter, got heard one quarter.

615
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 7: He showed me what you chose your last rep. And

616
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Speaker 7: when I made that comment, he showed us he was

617
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 7: the comeback head. Everybody was saying, oh, this is the

618
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 7: JJ we've been waiting on this. Look when he's healthy

619
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Speaker 7: and this and that.

620
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Speaker 4: Healthy heard? What are we trying to where we're trying

621
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Speaker 4: to slow down?

622
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Speaker 2: I didn't say nothing about anything, richards You volunteered.

623
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about j. J. McCarthy coordinating. The guy gott coordinating.

624
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: Man.

625
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: They put the annoying oil on it.

626
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because I said j was good. I

627
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: tell you, I just told you I could be a.

628
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 10: Player in this day and age just because the just

629
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 10: the social just everything social media.

630
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 8: Why would you even that's the thing, like, why did

631
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 8: even like that's you know, I think that you will

632
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 8: tell you my situation growing up the way I grew up,

633
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 8: Like I was born like round the same time with

634
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 8: my dad's first college game.

635
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: So like I've seen it being it.

636
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 8: They was talking about me wave, you know, but like

637
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 8: and it's one of these type of things like like

638
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 8: why why do you why do you feed into what

639
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 8: they're saying?

640
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: Who is they?

641
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: Anyway? You see it all the time. Yeah, but like,

642
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's just one of them things.

643
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 7: Man.

644
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 8: I had a situation where I had got a chance

645
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 8: to talk to Rodney Lot one time when I was

646
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 8: playing for the Raiders because we had some stuff going

647
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 8: on and we was going into the playoffs and dudes

648
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 8: were still coming late to practice and so one of

649
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 8: the time I was doing an interview and they was like, so,

650
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 8: how do you feel about this? And I'm like, it's

651
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 8: week eighteen and people don't know how to get here on.

652
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Time, you know.

653
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 8: And so I come in the locker room one day

654
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Speaker 8: and the first person not coming when I come in

655
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Speaker 8: locker room, first person talking early in the morning is

656
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 8: Andre Rosen. Y'all see you, he said, y'all see what

657
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 8: they said? Now, I ain't saying no names but but

658
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 8: what I was sure to say, if you feel like

659
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 8: I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you.

660
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: You know, it's a very good point. Yes, So you

661
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: know with no lines were.

662
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Speaker 9: Told, none lie, not at all.

663
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Speaker 2: You know.

664
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Speaker 8: So with that being said, you know, like it's it's

665
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Speaker 8: one of those type of situations whereas you just got

666
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 8: to be able to be as transparent as being honest

667
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 8: with your teammates at anytime. And the whole thing about

668
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Speaker 8: being accountable is the simple fact that like if I

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Speaker 8: to be funny.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying something to you because I need that, We

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Speaker 8: And so the whole thing with Danny Dimes and getting

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Speaker 8: before and everything was like that, like, yeah, he definitely

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Speaker 4: And they did too though you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Well, and they still do because like you said, we

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Speaker 8: watched them dismantling offense that if they could have actually

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Speaker 6: We'll be talking about some It was a fifth offensive

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Speaker 6: so that's something they have not built there. It was

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Speaker 6: And then you're not going to pay the guy who's

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Speaker 6: so clearly the best player on the team, not just

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Speaker 6: the team. And you're not gonna pay Barkley. Oh, we're

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Speaker 6: I don' won't see this guy, Philly, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to see It just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 4: And clearly going to the coach, you've got a head

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Speaker 4: coach of Shane Steichen who has a bi just understand

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Speaker 4: what he can do. But it's it's it's it's it's hard.

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Speaker 4: It's it's hard watching. To me, it is it's hard

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Speaker 4: watching bad, bad decisions.

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Speaker 10: Being made while covering, you know, the teams you've covered.

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Speaker 10: Is there any bit ever been a player that was

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Speaker 10: just like you might have said, man, you know, and

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Speaker 10: you were telling the truth, like, man, he hasn't played well,

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Speaker 10: or something like that in the media or on one

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Speaker 10: of your shoulder and then they just everything you say this, man,

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Speaker 10: why man, why are you always hating on me even

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Speaker 10: though you're telling the truth? Like have you ever run

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Speaker 10: into some sensitive cats like that? Terror lewan the player

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Speaker 10: the player the player.

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Speaker 4: So the player got mad. Player was mad all the time.

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Speaker 6: So the player got to the point where he wouldn't

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Speaker 6: answer any questions from from me or Edward. It's just

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Speaker 6: men at that point, we just don't keep asked. At

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Speaker 6: that point, I didn't care anymore, like I don't care. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And and it was after a while, you know, t

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Speaker 6: O got to the point where he was riffing with Romo.

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Speaker 4: And this was after the whole Ira quarter.

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Speaker 2: That's my quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's my quarterback.

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Speaker 6: That night he gonna call beat Rider and running Romod straight,

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Speaker 6: running him down. Okay, Man, that that that was a

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Speaker 6: different dude.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 6: for a minute. Even back to his days in Miami

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Speaker 6: when he was there with Jerome Brown and the Rock,

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Speaker 6: I mean, his dude was a he's.

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Speaker 4: Seen some dudes Okay, some characters and some people.

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Speaker 6: And he said he'd never been around anyone who caused

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Speaker 6: more dissension in terrible, really ever.

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Speaker 4: Difficult play I've been around, yo.

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Speaker 8: So it was it was it was a thing where

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Speaker 8: like I like to hear that he actually I never

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Speaker 8: understood the whole my quarterback breakdown, like like why he

738
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Speaker 8: just got so emotional during that time, Like it was

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Speaker 8: just I never understan they lost.

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Speaker 6: So that was the game in which they lost, and

741
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Speaker 6: they were a good team, and he was like, man,

742
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Speaker 6: if you guys want to put this on Tony because

743
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Speaker 6: remember the whole Cabo trip and everything.

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Speaker 4: So Tony went to Cabo along with Jason. Everybody forgot U.

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Speaker 6: Nobody remembered, but they were all three together. So they

746
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Speaker 6: lose the game. They had that great team in six

747
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Speaker 6: thirteen and three, number one seed. You beat the Giants

748
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Speaker 6: twice last year year by double digits, and you don't

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Speaker 6: get it done. And so he was emotional. It was

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Speaker 6: an emotional time, you know, because this back people thought

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Speaker 6: it was going to be Dallas and New England in

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Speaker 6: another matchup because they because Moss came and tore them

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Speaker 6: up at Texas Stateium. He thought there was gonna be

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Speaker 6: that that right there? Again, hey man, these two teams

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Speaker 6: going and it didn't happen that way. And I think

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Speaker 6: Jerry had put tickets to the NFC Championship game on lockers,

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Speaker 6: on seats in the room. And Coughlin found out it

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Speaker 6: was this was this was as this was as discipline

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Speaker 6: one is, this was as disappointing for your dad as.

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Speaker 10: The catch don't give Oh boy, you can talk to

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Speaker 10: certain cowboy that man, what's a disapoint lost year?

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Speaker 6: But the catch is right there for that group of

763
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Speaker 6: guys because not only did you lose that game, you're

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Speaker 6: gonna win the Super Bowl because since that that was

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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl team that they had there, this was

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Speaker 6: a team that the Cowboys had, they could have won it.

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Speaker 4: So then he broke down crying it ain't fair.

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Speaker 2: I hate to see it. Favorita on the phone that night,

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Speaker 2: running him down.

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Speaker 4: That's what, right, that's wow?

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Speaker 2: Didn't hear that?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 6: You know Romo Witton had a suite together, is it?

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Speaker 6: So they had a suite together, and and so that

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Speaker 6: became another point of contention, and and Tarot thought that

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Speaker 6: you know, they were drawing up plays together talking about

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Speaker 6: King Petty. We went there, Yes, yes, it went there, man,

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Speaker 6: it went there a few locker rooms.

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Speaker 2: I see.

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Speaker 4: They didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise it.

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Speaker 6: And it was just another case of here's another quarterback

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Speaker 6: that Tarot had a problem with. He had proms with Tony,

786
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Speaker 6: promise with Jeff Garcia, he got problems with McNabb.

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Speaker 2: This was his thing, you know.

788
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Speaker 4: Carson Palmer quit football after working with teraryll Owen.

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Speaker 6: He quit, but the Cincinnati is ohow and him, they

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Speaker 6: had a show and cars quit, I will not play

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Speaker 6: football again.

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Speaker 4: And he retired until the Raiders traded for him.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's what this dude does.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: And so when you start talking about it and you

796
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Speaker 4: bring it up, he didn't like it. He didn't like it.

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Speaker 6: And you know there's a black on black crime. Nah, dude,

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Speaker 6: don't don't try that one on me. Safe you shooting

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Speaker 4: You're going way too far, bro. You know, I'll give

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Speaker 4: him this man. My man was King of the Petty

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Speaker 4: bro he could come with it.

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Speaker 6: Now if he didn't had the show got to he

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Speaker 6: a lot of I was one of them, A lot

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Speaker 6: because you know what you did. You didn't affect him.

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Speaker 6: if you got an opportunity to run, run, how do

889
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 6: they come back?

890
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams in his ability to use his leg in

891
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: this game, and.

892
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: You gotta keep him contained.

893
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: I mean that dude.

894
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 10: Right now, he's playing backyard football a lot, and it's

895
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 10: bit him in the butt a little bit because he's

896
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 10: trying to buy time and try to make the play.

897
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 12: He doesn't, you know, just take the dump down.

898
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 10: He always wants the exciting plays, So for me, you

899
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 10: got to keep him contained, force him to play from

900
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 10: the pocket. All right, If you can force them to

901
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 10: play from the pocket, I think you'll have the advantage.

902
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 10: But if he's able to escape by time out there

903
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 10: for those receivers to get open, we've seen the lapses

904
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 10: in the secondary that this Dallas Cowboys defensive had.

905
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 12: So keep that man contained, force them to play from

906
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 12: the pocket to have.

907
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: A better chance.

908
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to widen up those threes this week.

909
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 7: Are you playing that four men front while Man three

910
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 7: bait them to go rush up the middle.

911
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: Your strongest point have.

912
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 7: Been the interiors tries and locking everything down, But that's

913
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 7: because the big juggernauts are getting in there and they've

914
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 7: been escaping. So why not your threes call a couple

915
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 7: of exotic blitzes where you got somebody coming off the edge,

916
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 7: but then where you bait him to have that spot

917
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 7: and make him rush up the middle. He's been most

918
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 7: effective scrambling out to inside doing what Romo used to

919
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 7: do back in the day. Well, don't get killed like that.

920
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 7: And so I think that comes it's gonna help with

921
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 7: widen them up. Get some blitters you got climbing there

922
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 7: to help you. Hopefully Houston keeps building like that and

923
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 7: then from there, I don't I don't see the Bears

924
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 7: having as much speed as the Giant, so hopefully it

925
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 7: won't be bombs over the back back.

926
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 8: You know, what I'm saying is the same thing that

927
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 8: you guys have already said, Like, first of all, you

928
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 8: got to show up those ends, don't let him get outside.

929
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 8: But at the same time, in the back end, we

930
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 8: gotta change in some coverage. We got to roll some

931
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 8: coverages in disguise some things, and that let him get

932
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 8: some pre snap reads that honestly know what the Cowboys

933
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 8: are going to be in throughout that defensive snap, and

934
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 8: I think that's also going to help. But like like

935
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 8: Barry said, this dude has made he won the Heis

936
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 8: metrophy offer basically playing backyard football and extending plays. And

937
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 8: so the longer that the Cowboys actually in courage is

938
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 8: gonna be the worst situation that they could be in.

939
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 8: So hopefully we get some pass rush widening them threes,

940
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 8: like you said, and you know, with your daviing in here,

941
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 8: him getting that double team, maybe Houston or somebody else

942
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 8: coming off the other side and get that pressure.

943
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 7: It's gonna be hard though, Like like I said, I

944
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 7: think you got to pull You're gonna have to call

945
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 7: your blitzeres, your four to three exotic blitzes. But how

946
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 7: many exotic blitzers can you call with Clowny being getting there,

947
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 7: because now you're gonna have to pull him off the field.

948
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 7: So it kind of it limits you on your playbook

949
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 7: call on. So that's why I say widen the threes.

950
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 7: It's the safest route if you want Clowney on the field.

951
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 7: If you don't, then you can stick to your normal

952
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 7: blitz package.

953
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 8: Well, he only gonna get it certain amount of reps anyway,

954
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 8: So you know, like that's that's gonna be the that's

955
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 8: gonna be benefit for that hopefully.

956
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's get out of here with this Thursday

957
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: at football, Let's go co Sol go up against oh

958
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: and two oh and two Miami Dolphins stick Buffalo, right,

959
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: is that right, Chris?

960
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 7: Yeah?

961
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: I think me at Buffalo at Buffalo guesst Miami at dud.

962
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 4: I wrote it right here.

963
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: You gotta right there.

964
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, give me Dolphins going to own three Buffalo wins

965
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: this one thirty one to sixteen. That's what I'm going

966
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: to go.

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00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you.

968
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 12: Give me buffalo, twenty eight to ten, don't do it,

969
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 12: but you don't.

970
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: Do it, bro, It's place right now.

971
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 8: So I'm going Buffalo. I'm going twenty eight ten. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no,

972
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 8: I'm going Buffalo. I'm gonna go thirty one fourteen.

973
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 10: Don't do it all right, last place, don't do it, bro,

974
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 10: you gotta stack up some dumbs man.

975
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: You got last place, last place?

976
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna do it? Who you'all talking to? You better

977
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: put the name that ain't my name?

978
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 4: Please?

979
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Detri four? What didn't name? This is him? Him Athy?

980
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: This guy at that. Like I said, Kimmothy Moore will

981
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: go with Buffalo. I got Buffalo, but it's gonna be

982
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: a nail bider man. I got twenty eight to fourteen,

983
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: fourteen seventeen.

984
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 4: Huh what eleven and a half the line? That's a

985
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: nail bider.

986
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm just saying, hey, y'all, y'all said, y'all, y'all,

987
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 7: y'all said, we're gonna it's gonna be closer. Hey, hold on,

988
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 7: didn't y'all say, did you say that? Cowboys and John's

989
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 7: was gonna be a blowout and it was a nail body.

990
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 7: Like I said, I might have picked the wrong one,

991
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 7: but it was I was right. Okay, thank you America later.

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