1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: With us attorney Piero and all of our great attorneys. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Pierre. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 3: There you see General Bondi, director Matelo or Tepping, the 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: director of Bentino. Can you describe was there a particular 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: moment where the evidence is coming in and it's starting 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: to look like progress is being made? Which what was 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: the moment that you knew that you were on the 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: road to solving the case. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was smiling at you because I certainly remember 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 4: the moment. Darren remembers it too. He said, are you 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: sitting down? Called me on the phone. I said, oh boy, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: why it's this bad news? And he said, I think 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: we got him. What exactly that tip was? I We're 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 4: gonna have to pass on that for right now while 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: we're still there's obviously we're in the prologue of a 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 4: long book. This is just the beginning. This is not 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: the end of the investigation. As you all well know, 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: havn't reported on these for a long time. There's interviews 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 4: to be conducted, the search war in processing scene is 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: not even done, so we're at the early stages. So 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: that's the only reason I hesitate tell you what the 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 4: exact tip I was. But yes, that was absolutely the moment, 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: and it was due to the diligent and incredible work 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: of a team in the Washington Field office that came 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: in and just scoured through this over and over and 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: over and over again. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: Forensic Was it a phone call? Was it something about 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: a vehicle? 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: I will just leave it generally forensic evidence. Yeah, it's 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: fair enough to say, excuse me, I'd rather not say 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: because of the ongoing interview process, and I don't want to. 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: I just want to add something to tell you how 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: thorough this team was. That that moment that was kind 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 5: of like the Aha moment, That. 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 6: Wasn't the end. 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: This team continued to work and work and work to 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 5: get every bit of evidence that we could get. We 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: didn't stop at that moment. And that's a testament to 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: the fact that the team wanted every possible evidence, piece 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 5: of evidence that they could gather. 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 6: Well more, one more killing. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 7: John Wals, thank you so much. 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 8: Have you recovered the notable sneakers? Have you done surveillance 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 8: of this suspect from that Aha moment to when you 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 8: exercise the search warns today? And obviously this happened on 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 8: January fifth into January sixth. How should the public look 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 8: at this case separate from all of the cases related 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 8: to what transpired on January sixth and the President's subsequent parties. 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to let Director Betel take the evidence part. 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: We have to be careful. Again, You've asked very good 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: investigative questions, but this is ongoing, very active. America should 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: feel safer today we say a pipe bomb, These are bombs. 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: These were live, active bombs that were placed in Washington, DC. Director, 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: thank you. 55 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 9: This shows you how much detail you and the American 56 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 9: public have paid attention to this case. Of course, we 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 9: analyze everything that you're seeing on this poster board and 58 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 9: information that you will see through the formal charging process 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 9: and court process, but we want to let that evidence 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 9: speak for itself because again, we do not want to 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 9: disrupt the accountability that we owe the American public. Yes 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 9: you heard about the cell phone tower data. Yes you 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 9: heard about Of course, we surveil individuals who we think 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 9: we're going to blow up American citizens, But how and 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 9: when we do it and why we do it is 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 9: not something we're ever going to reveal unless the Department 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 9: of Justice deems it fit at trial. So we appreciate 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 9: your attention to detail and your hardcore investigative work. But 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 9: you can just imagine some of those same skills were 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 9: being utilized by this FBI, this Department of Justice, our partners, 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 9: the ATF and everybody across the board. And this is 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 9: an interagency win for the American people. 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 7: Well, thank you all. 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: And one more thing, this is the best birthday present 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I think Deputy Director bon Gino could ask for today. 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas. 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 6: Thank you. 78 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 10: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 10: generation warfare. 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 8: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 8: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pasovic, christ 82 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 8: Is King. 83 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 10: All right, Jack Pisovic, we are here live Human Events Daily. 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 10: We're live on Real America's Voice, and we just finished 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 10: the press conference where the FBI, the Department of Justice, 86 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 10: they all came in and today is Lindy Jill walk forward. 87 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 10: Today's December fourth, five and Dominie. They all made this 88 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 10: arrest of Brian Cole, we're told is the suspect. Now, 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 10: not a lot of information was revealed of this case. 90 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 10: The only piece that we have so far, at least 91 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 10: confirmed by Deputy Director was that this was pre existing information. 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 10: He also heard the Attorney General say that this was 93 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 10: information that had been collecting dust. I want to go 94 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 10: now to our in guest studio, doctor Charles cornish Dale, 95 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 10: who joins us now. You guys may know him as 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 10: the Raw Egg Nationalists. 97 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: What's up, brother, h It's great to be with you, 98 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Jack and I. I think I'm sitting in your seat today. 99 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 10: Indeed you are, you're sitting You're sitting in my seat today. 100 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 10: We were in separate studios, but yes, that is that 101 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 10: is one of my studios right there. 102 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 6: Very nice. 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 10: What you make What do you make of what we 104 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 10: know so far about this bomber. We're waiting to get 105 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 10: confirmation on an official photo. I don't know if one 106 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 10: has been released yet, but we did hear from multiple 107 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 10: sources now about potential anarchist writings that were associated with 108 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 10: the individual. Would have been about twenty five or twenty 109 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 10: six around the time of this bombing. 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're not They haven't released a huge amount 111 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: of information about this suspect yet, but the information that 112 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: has been released shouldn't really surprise us. You know, people 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: are already talking on Twitter about the family business, which 114 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: appears to be related to bail bonds for immigrants, and 115 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, then there's also this material, this potentially these anarchist, 116 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: these anarchist writings, So it looks like, actually, maybe what 117 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: we're dealing with is something akin to a false flag. 118 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: And you know that was that was suggested from the 119 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: very beginning. Actually, you know that there were that there 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: were leftist agitators involved in the events of January the sixth, 121 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: And you know, really what it what I think it 122 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: tells us is that we need to go back, and 123 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: we need to we need to look at January sixth. Again. 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: We still don't know the full story. We still don't 125 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: know exactly what was going on. You know, we still 126 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: don't know who the FBI's confidential informants were who were 127 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: on the ground, and I think it was you know, 128 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: there were dozens on the ground that day, but we 129 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: also don't know actually whether you know, there were there 130 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: really were elements of a leftist full flag taking place. 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 10: Well, and and look, you know, there's all of that 132 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 10: needs to be discussed because now when we see these 133 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 10: reports about anarchist writings, we see these reports and remember 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 10: this was someone who we knew had attacked not just 135 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 10: the R and c but also the DNC. So someone 136 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 10: who clearly perhaps had an extra grind with both parties 137 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 10: isn't necessarily a member of a mainstream political movement, And 138 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 10: that does actually fit the profile of one who we 139 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 10: would see on the as an anti government or an anarchist, 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 10: anti fascist extremist, where that is exactly how they look. Now, 141 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 10: you know, we're going through and I'm trying to pull 142 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 10: up on CNN or FBI whether any more information is 143 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 10: coming out on this. He's been charged at this point 144 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 10: of using an explosive device. 145 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 6: We only had that grainy surveillance footage. 146 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 10: And again what we do see though, is that it 147 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 10: seems that the home that he was living in, and 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 10: I believe we have a shot of the home where 149 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 10: he was living, that this seems to be an affluent individual. 150 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 10: Those home prices in that area in northern Virginia, just 151 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 10: outside of Washington, DC, are very very high. And so, 152 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 10: doctor Cornishdale, what do you make of the idea this 153 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 10: could have been the sun of a fairly wealthy, upper 154 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 10: middle class family. 155 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 6: Is that a profile that we've seen before anywhere? 156 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, No, it's a profile we all should be 157 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: familiar with. I mean, I think that what we're seeing 158 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: is yeah, I mean, we're seeing a familiar pattern from history. 159 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's these these leftist agitators, these anarchist agitators. 160 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: You know a lot of them aren't from the lump 161 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: and proletariat as it were. You know, they're not the 162 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: lowest of the low. They're actually potentially educated people. They're 163 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: people from wealthy backgrounds, and yet they share in, you know, 164 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: the sort of the leftist goal, the leftist dream of 165 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: leveling society. So no, I mean it shouldn't it shouldn't 166 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: be a it shouldn't be a surprise at all to 167 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: us if it does turn out that actually this is 168 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: somebody who is from an affluent background, you know, I 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: mean Luigi Mangioni he he wasn't from a poor. 170 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 6: Back, exactly what I was thinking of. 171 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I mean, yeah, we're seeing a 172 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: pattern emerge, and not just a kind of longer term pattern, 173 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: but even just a pattern within the last year or 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: so from Luigiman. And it's the same kinds of people 175 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: carrying out these crimes, you know, and more attention needs 176 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: to be paid to them by law enforcement. I think. 177 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, these are preventable. A lot 178 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: of these are preventable crimes. I think law enforcement needs 179 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: to get ahead of them because there are going to 180 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: be more. I mean, that's one thing we can say. 181 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: You know, there are going to be more attacks like this, 182 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: more attempts to assassinate political figures, more attempts to plant 183 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: pipe bombs, more attempts to spread terror and confusion, and 184 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: also perhaps as with this pipe bombing attack, you know, 185 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: maybe to sew maybe to sow dissension, maybe to kind 186 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: of try to implicate the right actually in the in 187 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: the left scheme to overturn society. 188 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 10: Possibly or even just saw it as a target of opportunity. 189 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 6: Knew that there would be what did we know? Right? 190 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 6: What do we know? 191 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 10: We knew that on January sixth, prior to you that 192 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 10: that there would be a large gathering of Trump supporters 193 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 10: in Washington, d C. On that day, and so it 194 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 10: certainly could have been just from the basics of it, 195 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 10: certainly could have been an attempt to target those individuals 196 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 10: who were you know, who were marching. I was personally 197 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 10: there that day. I was in and around the Capitol, 198 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 10: I was down at the ellipse. I went walked up 199 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 10: to the war room with Steve Bannon and sat down 200 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 10: at the table and then went back. Was walking down 201 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 10: Capitol Hill right as the now. Of course, the pipe 202 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 10: bombs didn't go off, but I did see these stun 203 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 10: grenades and the flash bangs thrown by the Capitol Police 204 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 10: on January sixth, as the crowd was peaceful. 205 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 6: Which led to you know, much confusion and all of 206 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 6: the pushing and shoving. 207 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 10: And we saw how that spiraled out of control, and so, 208 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 10: you know it, We certainly knew that it was going 209 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 10: to be a rough situation, a target of opportunity potentially 210 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 10: for someone. That's why a lot of people had speculated 211 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 10: just going into it that there could be some agitators, 212 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 10: some antie But typically when you know, as a guy 213 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 10: who's hold held his fair share of Trump rallies and 214 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 10: Trump events in Washington, d C. Typically we do almost 215 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 10: always get some kind of Antifa counter protest, counter response. 216 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 10: But it was always very interesting to me that there 217 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 10: weren't any public or outward signs of Antifa anywhere at 218 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 10: January six No. 219 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, it's not actually that difficult to 220 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: dress up as a Trump supporter, is it. You don 221 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: the maga hat. You put a Maga hat on, you're 222 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: a Trump supporter, and so it's not like it's an 223 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: elaborate disguise. Isn't required actually to blend in. And I 224 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: do seem to remember that there were people talking on 225 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: Reddit about, you know, going to the Capitol and causing 226 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: trouble and that's right. 227 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 10: Wasn't there a wasn't there a bit it was like 228 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 10: wear your hat backwards or wear it upside down or 229 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 10: something like that. 230 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: That was going to be a thing. 231 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there was, so I mean, yeah, I mean 232 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: I think it's it stands to who it stands to 233 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: reason that you know, there probably were leftist agitatus there. 234 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: It's a great way, it's a great way to you know, 235 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: to to generate negative publicity. It's a great way to 236 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: discredit people is to associate them with political violence. And 237 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't take much to infiltrator, you know, a Maga 238 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: rally just by wearing a Maga hat. And this is 239 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: what this is what leftists do. This is what left is. 240 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 10: And by the way, in fact, we should what I 241 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 10: had one of the questions, and I wasn't at the 242 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 10: press conference today, but you know, if I were, I 243 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 10: would love to know whether or not they had identified 244 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 10: did this individual? And is there any evidence that he 245 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 10: ate think because this was done late in the evening 246 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 10: of January fifth, so is there any evidence that he 247 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 10: himself went and then participated in the march at all 248 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 10: on January sixth? What was he up to the day 249 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 10: after when presumably he was expecting either these bombs number 250 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 10: one to go off or number two to be used 251 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 10: as sort of distraction. And there are some questions about 252 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 10: how exactly these phone calls and the identification of them 253 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 10: came in. But let's take it out more broadly here, 254 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 10: because there is a problem in this country, and we've 255 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 10: in the United States and in your country, the UK, 256 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 10: and really across all of the West right now of 257 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 10: leftist violence. That seems to be a theme that a 258 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 10: lot of the mainstream, despite horrific acts of violence, has 259 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 10: yet to actually pick up one. And it's one where 260 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 10: people seem to just they see one of these actions 261 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 10: and then they feel bad about it for a little 262 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 10: while and they just move on. Why is it that 263 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 10: we haven't really seen that narrative being taken over by 264 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 10: the mainstream. 265 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, I mean, a lot of 266 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: people still think that Charlie kirkskiller, Tyler Robinson, wasn't a leftist, 267 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, there was polling done recently. I 268 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: think that showed that a very you know, a small 269 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: minority of people of Americans actually think that Charlie Kirk's 270 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: killer was a leftist, when it's obvious he was a leftist. 271 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: You know, all the evidence points to him being a leftist. 272 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: And you only need to actually look at the nature 273 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: of the crime itself and to what it's achieved, which 274 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: is to so complete chaos on the right and to 275 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: make it much much harder for the right in the 276 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: US to organize, you know, I mean it's impossible really 277 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: to over emphasize just how important Charlie Kirk was to 278 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: the future of populism, to the future of the right 279 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: in America. I mean, he was a star. He was 280 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: going to be working for, you know, twenty thirty more years, 281 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, with this unparalleled network that he'd created, with 282 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: his personal charisma, with his drive and dedication and sense 283 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: of mission. And they killed him, and it's thrown the 284 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: American right into into chaos, into infighting. And that's exactly 285 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: what you do. You know, if you're committed to political violence, 286 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: as the left is. That's what you do. You target 287 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: the major figures, you target the key players. You know, 288 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: you assassinate them. You degrade your opponent's capability to organize. 289 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: So it stands to rights that a leftist would you know, 290 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: this is what a leftist would do. And then we 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: have all this information about Tyler Robinson's trans boyfriend girlfriend, 292 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: his furry obsession, the kind of things that he's looking 293 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: at on the Internet, the kind of person he just 294 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: seems to be. And yet, for some strange reason, despite 295 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: all the other acts of leftist terrorism that we are 296 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: witnessing as well, and that actually have been forgotten. So, 297 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: you know, I harp on about something that happened in 298 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: February quite a lot. This chap called Ryan Michael, English 299 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: transgender male, tried to kill the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessend. 300 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: He went to the He went to the Capitol with 301 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: Molotov cocktails. He had a manifesto, he set or writings 302 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: in his possession, and he said that he wanted to 303 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: to kill Scott Besson. He wanted to burn down the 304 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation. He had a long list of conservative right 305 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: wing Trump targets and that's just been completely forgotten. And 306 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: I find it very strange actually that people aren't joining 307 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: the dots here because there's a very clear pattern that's emerged. 308 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: It's exactly the pattern you would expect. This isn't surprising, 309 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: but nonetheless, only a minority of people really seem to 310 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: understand the nature of the situation that America is in 311 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: right now. 312 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 6: And it's quite strange. 313 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 10: And I wonder why as well this exists because it 314 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 10: seems that there is an issue of scale, I suppose, 315 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 10: But there's something that there's a piece that you wrote 316 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 10: before about what it is, specifically about the trans movement. 317 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 10: He wrote this for Human Events dot Com and trans 318 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 10: Individuals where they view the things that Charlie was saying, 319 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 10: the things that Trump is doing to ban and get 320 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 10: rid of trans specifically, it's the bans on child gender manipulation, 321 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 10: this gender surgery that you've viewed as an actual precursor 322 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 10: and a catalyst to violent action. 323 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I think what you have to understand is 324 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: that every kind of society, every kind of social grouping, 325 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: wants to reproduce itself. Right. The normal way for people 326 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: to reproduce is biologically is through having sex and having children. 327 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: But that isn't how the trans movement. That isn't how 328 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: the trans grouping reproduces itself. Transgender people reproduce themselves through 329 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: gender reassignment surgery and taking hormones. Right, That's how you 330 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: get more trans people. That's how you continue the trans 331 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: movement is you get people to have surgery, you get 332 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: people to have medical interventions. And so what's happening is 333 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: Trump is banning or placing a moratorium on these on 334 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: these medical procedures, and suddenly it means you don't get 335 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: more trans people, or you certainly don't get more trans 336 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: children and trans teenagers. So I think you have to 337 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: understand that, you know, transgender people are already heavily, heavily radicalized. 338 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: They're they're among probably the most radical leftists. And now 339 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: what you've got is you've got the Trump administration taking 340 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: away their means of reproduction. So it's an existential crisis 341 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: for them. It is actually an existential threat. And so 342 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: that's why these people are I think the most dangerous 343 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: of the radical leftists in America today because they're actually 344 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: they feel they are facing an existential threat. And you know, 345 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: they say trans people are being murdered by Nazis, and 346 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: what they actually. 347 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 10: Mean they talk about the transgenocide that's going on that 348 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 10: no one can seem to point to or find or see. 349 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 2: And it's not that it's not that transgender people are 350 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: being killed, it's that transgender people are being prevented from 351 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 2: coming into existence because they can't have these radical surgeries. 352 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: And so, you know, I said at the beginning, you know, 353 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: the beginning of the Trump administration, we've this is the 354 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: this is the demographic that we need to watch. This 355 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: is where the real the hardcore killers, the kind of 356 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: leftist jihadis are going to come from, because they're the 357 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: ones who have the most to lose from the trumpagenda. 358 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 6: Well, and the instability that's inherent there, which is something 359 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 6: and I've said it again and again that if you 360 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 6: go back to the great horror writers and horror the 361 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 6: movies even used to understand this silence of the lambs, 362 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 6: who is the killer? But who is Buffalo Bill? Buffalo 363 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 6: Bill is trans. 364 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 10: He's trying to make a literally change his skin to 365 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 10: that of a woman, and that is why he is 366 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 10: killing women. That's why you're putting the lotion on the 367 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 10: skin right, and cut your skin off and wear it 368 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 10: as a skin suit. Psycho Norman bates the dead Mother, 369 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 10: where he then tries to turn himself into his mother again. 370 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 10: This trope has been around for years and years because 371 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 10: there's something about the psychology there that is inherently lethal 372 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 10: and inherently brutal. The rejection of self, the rejection of reality. 373 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 10: Right back, Jack Sobic raw Egg bastionists. 374 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: Talk afluences. 375 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: These are influences and their friends and mine Jack, Jack's 376 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: break down. 377 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 10: All right, Jack Posibic, we are back live human events daily. 378 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 6: We're digging in more and more as we learn. 379 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 10: About the potential this this new arrest regarding the January 380 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 10: sixth pipe bomber, after almost five total years in one month, 381 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 10: it will be five years from that January sixth. Folks 382 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 10: want to tell you about our new. 383 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 6: Partner because this Christmas. Let me tell you something right now. 384 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 10: This is something very important and as we're talking about 385 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 10: physical security, this is key. 386 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 6: If you use. 387 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 10: Gmail, Chat, gpt, at and T door, Dash or Comcast, 388 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 10: you are now at a critically elevated risk level. 389 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 6: What does that mean. 390 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 10: Well, in just the last few months, there have been 391 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 10: confirmed major security breaches at each of these companies. 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Promo code posts will get you 417 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 10: fifteen percent off the yearly subscription. 418 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: And I'll just point it out. When my family was. 419 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 10: Swatted, it was at Christmas time, multiple times, right at Christmas. 420 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 10: This is exactly when they struck. So patriot dash protect 421 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 10: dot com slash. 422 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: Oh. 423 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 10: So, okay, we're back on with doctor Charles cornish Dale, 424 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 10: aka a the Raw Egg Nationalist. He has a new 425 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 10: book out that's very interesting because we're talking about so 426 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 10: let's go back to Tyler Robinson, right, someone who is 427 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 10: a committed leftist, someone who is in a homosexual relationship 428 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 10: with a man that was transitioning, someone who was a 429 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 10: furry and. 430 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 6: Doctor Charles Cornishdale, Doctor Cornisdale, is. 431 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 10: There any type of name that you would ascribe to 432 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 10: this sort of man that would do something like that. 433 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I would imagine he is a 434 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: low testosterone individual, certainly. 435 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 6: And you ask me, one of the last men. 436 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the last men. Indeed, one of the 437 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: last men of the title of the book, which is 438 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: the Last Men Liberalism and the Death of masculinity. You 439 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: know who is the last man? Well, the last man 440 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: is a character taken from the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, 441 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: popularized much more widely by Francis Fukuyama in his End 442 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: of History thesis and in my book, Then the last 443 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: man is this kind of archetypal modern man who has 444 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: low testosterone, who is probably left wing rather than right wing. 445 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: And you know, a big part of the book actually 446 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: is talking about how testosterone is associated with political affiliation. 447 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: There are studies, there are lots of studies in social psychology, 448 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 2: for example, that suggest that men with higher testosterone have 449 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: greater in group preference for example. So in group preference 450 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: is basically, let's say, a preference for your own tribe. 451 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: So the kind of civilizational collapse that we're seeing in 452 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: testosterone levels across the Western world really probably does have 453 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: aggregate political effects. And one of those aggregate political effects 454 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: maybe to drive people, especially men, towards the left or 455 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: certainly away from the right, away from trusting what would 456 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: be then natural instincts that would be fostered by testosterone, 457 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: which would be to be patriotic, to show in group preference, 458 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: to accept hierarchy, That's another thing that's associated with testosterone 459 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: is hierarchy. So hormones are political. It doesn't really get 460 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: said enough, and that's something that I'm trying to correct 461 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: in the book. I'm trying to say, well in. 462 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 10: Just just to throw out a piece of information that 463 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 10: might back this up. In some of the leaked information 464 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 10: that's come out on this relationship that Tyler Robinson was 465 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 10: in with his gay lover Lance Twigs, was that one 466 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 10: of the former friends, former roommates of them, had mentioned 467 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 10: that Twiggs was taking something called black market HRT or 468 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 10: black market hormone replacement therapy. And there's a variety of 469 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 10: Chinese examples of this that I've dug into another certainly 470 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 10: not that I've drived myself, but that are apparently very 471 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 10: easy to procure online. And they do justribe his downward 472 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 10: spiral as associating with a rise in the more he 473 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 10: took seem the more he took these things, the more 474 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 10: leftist he became. 475 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is that is totally believable. And 476 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: you know, I was talking about this this how transgender 477 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 2: people reproduce, well, one of the ways they reproduce is 478 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 2: through through the use of hormones through the use of 479 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: estrogen if you're transitioning from male to female, and testosterone 480 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: if you're going the other way. And you know, radical leftists, 481 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: radical transgender people use websites like Reddit not only to 482 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: organize politically, but also actually to organize the distribution of, 483 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: like you say, these black market hormonal treatments because it's 484 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: essential for their reproduction, for people who believe their transgender 485 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: or people who've been led to believe that they're transgender 486 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: to take these hormones. And yeah, absolutely, I mean, hormonal 487 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: dysfunction is driving leftism, I believe, and it's worth mentioning 488 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: actually as well, you know, I mean, we tend to 489 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: associate aggression because of kind of pop culture pop science, 490 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: we tend to associate aggression with testosterone, but actually aggression 491 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: is also associated with estrogen. Estrogen modulates aggression in very 492 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: very interesting ways. If you give monkeys, if you give 493 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: male macaques estrogen, they will become basically in cell monkeys. 494 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: There's a very funny study about this where they gave 495 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: mail macaqus estrogen from soy and it turned them into 496 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: basically passive, aggressive, kind of inell monkeys. They would retreat 497 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: from their fellow monkeys in the troop and become more aggressive, 498 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: more kind of bitchy. So it's it's wrong, I think 499 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: to think that, you know, just because these if these 500 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: people are taking estrogen, they don't. 501 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 10: It's a different type of aggression. It's more of this 502 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 10: angry like swing. 503 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 6: Aggression kind of keeping Doctor Cornsdale. 504 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 10: I'd love to chat more. We're just out of time. 505 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 10: Show us the book again, tell us where to get it. 506 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. 507 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: It's available for pre order from Amazon dot Com right 508 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: now in hardback and audiobook format, releasing December the sixteenth. 509 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 10: I know what I'm reading this Christmas, Doctor Carnestone. Charles Cornishdale. 510 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 10: It is great to see you here in the Human 511 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 10: Events studio. Right back with an official from the department 512 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 10: from Medscreen. 513 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: This is Jack. 514 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 7: Where's Jack? 515 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: Where is he? 516 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 7: Jack? 517 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: I want to see you. 518 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Great job, Jack, Thank you. 519 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 7: What a job you do. 520 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 3: You know, we have an incredible thing. 521 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: We're always talking about the fake news and. 522 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: The bed, but we have guys, and these are the 523 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: guys should be getting publishers. 524 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 10: All right, Jack Recovick, back live here. 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Now? 551 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 10: Obviously I know we just saw the DOJ's press conference 552 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 10: there regarding the capture of the suspected pipe bomber. Wanted 553 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 10: to ask from your perspective on the DHS side, did 554 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 10: because the Secret Service falls under your purview, are you 555 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 10: able to tell us that DHS played a role in 556 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 10: this investigation? 557 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 11: Homeland Security Investigations did play some role, but I have 558 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 11: to give full credit to Cash Betel and Attorney General 559 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 11: Pam Bondi. 560 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 7: They really led. 561 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 11: The team in the administration on this, so they deserve 562 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 11: full credit. Though our Homeland Security Investigations team did lend 563 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 11: a hand. 564 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 10: Well, of course, and obviously with any federal activity in Washington, 565 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 10: d C. I certainly know from personal experience, there's always 566 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 10: a lot of overlapping footprints, especially there on Cap Hill, 567 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 10: where every agency kind of has you know, quasi jurisdiction. 568 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 10: It almost goes seat by seed. And of course, just 569 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 10: the way investigations run, different different sources might be in 570 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 10: one database that pairs up with another database, and so 571 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 10: it's good to hear by the way that it sounds 572 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 10: like the different agencies are are communicating and using that 573 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 10: interagency process, which perhaps may have been one of the 574 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 10: things that held up this investigation prior to prior to 575 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 10: this arrest. 576 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 11: Jack, You're completely correct, and I will say, when we 577 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 11: came into this administration on January twentieth, we were saying 578 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 11: that all of our intelligence agencies and offices were really 579 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 11: operating in silos. There was little to no information sharing. 580 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 11: We were seeing that there was tons of gaps of 581 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 11: information and so President Trump, I mean, he brought his 582 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 11: cabinet together and really ordered that those silos be broken down. 583 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 11: And we've had unbelievable amounts of information sharing, especially on 584 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 11: the immigration front when we're dealing with especially financial fraud. 585 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 11: Treasury Secretary Scott has been absolutely phenomenal. The IRS has 586 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 11: been involved, and so it really has been a whole 587 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 11: of government approach. I can't speak about a recent operation 588 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 11: out of Virginia though that Homely and Security investigations, the 589 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 11: FBI and we really had a whole of government approach. 590 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 11: And was this individual He's an Afghan national and he 591 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 11: came in under Biden's operation allies welcome. In September of 592 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 11: twenty twenty one, turns out he's a member of isis K. 593 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 11: He's a terrorist, his father was a commander of a 594 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 11: militia and Afghanistan. And yet this individual was allowed into 595 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 11: our country, he was giving temporary protected status. He was 596 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 11: arrested yesterday and will no longer be able to terrorize 597 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 11: the people of America. He will face justice. And so 598 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 11: we're really proud of that as an administration because it 599 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 11: really was a whole of government approach and we're going 600 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 11: to get more of these guys out of this country. 601 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 10: Well, that's right in isis K, of course, being the 602 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 10: ISIS affiliate primarily associated with Afghanistan and those Central Asian countries, 603 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 10: some of the former Soviet countries up there and ituz Bekistan, Tajikistan, 604 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 10: et cetera. But then also into Afghanistan as well. They've 605 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 10: been trying to get into the United States for quite 606 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 10: some time. But you know, just just cutting back to 607 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 10: you know what you mentioned about the information silos. That 608 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 10: was what always made me bang my head against the 609 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 10: wall so much when I was in the intelligence community, 610 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 10: that we'd be working on a problem set and I 611 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 10: would need a piece of information because I'm you know, 612 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 10: it's it's it's like looking at a puzzle but you 613 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 10: know you're missing a few pieces and then having a 614 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 10: very good idea that you know. It's like my I know, 615 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 10: my five year old stole that piece and he hid 616 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 10: it somewhere, and I want to get it from him, 617 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 10: and I keep asking him where he is, and he 618 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 10: keeps telling me either that he doesn't have that piece 619 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 10: or he doesn't know where it is. And ultimately it 620 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 10: would be because people didn't want to share, and because 621 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 10: people in Washington, d C. Particularly in the intelligence community 622 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 10: and the national security agencies, they use this try to 623 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 10: burnish their power to keep their fiftoms going. And you 624 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 10: see a lot of this in the inner agency where 625 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 10: certain I'm not going to name any agencies, but certain 626 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 10: agencies that are around like to kind of bigfoot other 627 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 10: agencies and play these games. They just play games, and 628 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 10: ultimately who suffers are the American people and our national security. 629 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 11: You're completely correct, and it really is amazing. As kind 630 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 11: of more of an outsider, I was in the first 631 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 11: Trump administration, but I'm not a government bureaucrat. So coming 632 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 11: back into the administration under President Trump and seeing how 633 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 11: it operates in the intelligence silos. The fact of the 634 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 11: matter is it's turf wars. People don't want to give 635 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 11: credit where credits to. People don't want to give information 636 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 11: that would advance investigations that would help our national security 637 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 11: because perhaps themselves of their boss won't get credit, it 638 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 11: won't go to their particular agency. 639 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 7: I think within these really. 640 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 11: Bureaucratic systems that people forget that they're actually serving our nation, 641 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 11: our homeland, and that's their ultimate goal is to serve 642 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 11: the American people. I don't know how that gets lost, 643 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 11: but it certainly does. And I think President Trump has 644 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 11: done a phenomenal job of bringing back the American people 645 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 11: into the fore focus, which is exactly what it should be. 646 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 6: I couldn't agree more. 647 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 10: And that's when I hear the Attorney General saying that, hey, 648 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 10: this information was collecting dust on the shelf, It just 649 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 10: makes me think, what other pieces of information, what documents 650 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 10: are sitting collecting dust on the shelf about people that 651 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 10: we don't even know about, people who, by the way, 652 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 10: may have come into this country under false pretenses. Perhaps 653 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 10: we used to call that derogatory information or d rog 654 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 10: and so perhaps that information is actually out there. For example, 655 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 10: you know, we had this information about the radicalization of 656 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 10: that Afghan national that came in and then ultimately went 657 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 10: and conducted this horrific shooting of our National Guards right 658 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 10: there in Washington, d C. These were preventable. These were 659 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 10: preventable because they were just not vetted on their way in. 660 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 11: No, they weren't vetted on their way and that is 661 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 11: astounding to hear. It's now been within one week three 662 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 11: individuals who have been arrested. Unfortunately, of course, one of 663 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 11: those who took the live of Sarah Beckstrom, an American 664 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 11: hero National guardsmen. But Jack, the fact of the matter 665 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 11: is the Biden administration was virtually doing no vetting when 666 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 11: they were allowing almost two hundred thousand Afghan nationals into 667 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 11: this country. They were not doing biometric data vetting, they 668 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 11: weren't doing social media vetting. They weren't doing criminal background checks, 669 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 11: cyber checks, they weren't doing financial crime checks. 670 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 7: None of this was happening. 671 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 11: So Secretary Nome really had to overhaul that entire system. 672 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 11: When they were doing asylum interviews, they weren't checking in 673 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 11: on an annual basis which should have been happening, and 674 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 11: had that been happening. This individual, as you mentioned, was 675 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 11: radicalized while he was in the United States. 676 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 6: He might have been caught, No, absolutely might have been caught. 677 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 10: And those techs for coming in would certainly make sense, 678 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 10: because who would you want to check other than someone 679 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 10: who had served with the United States military, who understood, 680 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 10: by the way, understood our military SOPs, understood our force 681 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 10: protection levels, understood how we operate, understand how we communicate. 682 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 10: Someone who absolutely is familiar with those things so could easily, unfortunately, 683 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 10: know how to conduct and attack like this. And as 684 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 10: horrific as it was, you would think that those are 685 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 10: the people that the previous administration, if they were going 686 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 10: to let them in, would have been watching the closest, 687 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 10: but of course they weren't. 688 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 11: No, You're absolutely right, Jack, It's really horrifying, especially we 689 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 11: know that within the interior of our country, since the 690 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 11: start of the administration, we have arrested at least a 691 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 11: thousand known or suspected terrorists. Twenty million people came into 692 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 11: this country in the past four years under Joe Biden. 693 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 11: Of course, those one hundred and ninety thousand Afghan nationals 694 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 11: coming in under Operation Allies Welcome, and then the millions 695 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 11: of individuals who came in with little to no vetting 696 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 11: under these parole programs like CHNV or these temporary protected 697 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 11: statuses that were just absolutely exploited. 698 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 10: So in that case, it could be illegal or someone 699 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 10: who has this, you know, one of these papers that's 700 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 10: that's come in. 701 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 6: That one thousand number would include both. 702 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 11: Now that would just include those who are in this 703 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 11: country illegally. That doesn't even include. 704 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 7: Those who are. 705 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 11: Oh no, yes, And that's a huge reason why President 706 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 11: Trump has an instructed Secretary Nome to give him this 707 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 11: list of countries of which right now they're in nineteen 708 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 11: where we're expecting that to really expand because that vetting 709 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 11: was so out of control. We can't be giving out 710 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 11: more immigration benefits. We have to be really reviewing who's 711 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 11: in this country under asylum are a green book card, 712 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 11: because if we know that they weren't vetting, there could 713 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 11: be far, far more terrorist in this country. 714 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 10: That's exactly right, Tricia, quick quick break, because I do 715 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 10: want to ask you more about that when we come 716 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 10: back from commercial This is quite possibly one of the 717 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 10: most important issues facing our entire country right now. 718 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 6: Right back Human Events Daily. 719 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: Jack is a. 720 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: Great guy, he's written a fantastic look and everybody's talking 721 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 4: about it. 722 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 11: Go get it that. 723 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 4: He's been my friend right from the beginning of this 724 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 4: whole viewful. 725 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 7: Event, and we're going to turn it around and make 726 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 7: our way. 727 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: To get him. 728 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 10: All Right, Jack Pasobic, we are back live here Human 729 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 10: Events Daily. We're on with the Assistant Secretary of the 730 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 10: Department Homeland Security, Triciaan McLaughlin. 731 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 6: Trisha, I have to ask you. 732 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 10: President Trump of course made comments regarding new raids that 733 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 10: he's been looking to really emphasize and prioritize regarding Minneapolis, 734 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 10: the community up there, this fraud community. We've seen a 735 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 10: lot on Twitter, social media, people saying that this is 736 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 10: going on, that this is happening. What can you tell 737 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 10: us about what is happening in specifically this community in Minneapolis. 738 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 11: Well, I can confirm that ICE is on the ground 739 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 11: in Minneapolis. USCIS has been doing ongoing and really robust 740 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 11: investigation in particular on visa and marriage fraud. What they 741 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 11: found is almost half of immigration cases that they've reviewed 742 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 11: have had some sort of fraud or exploitation. So of 743 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 11: course those are going to be turned over to the 744 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 11: Development of Justice for charges and for arrests as far 745 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 11: as ice being on the ground there. I actually just 746 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 11: looked at a report right as I was getting into 747 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 11: the chair jack some really heinous arrests that were just 748 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 11: made in the last twenty four to forty eight hours 749 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 11: on the ground there in Minneapolis. We're talking about multiple 750 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 11: child pedophiles, people who do have terrorist ties, people who 751 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 11: have been involved in gang and criminal activity, and of 752 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 11: course the fraud and the marriage fraud that we've known 753 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 11: and heard about. 754 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 10: Well, and when you look at this community and a 755 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 10: number of these communities, it seems like this information was 756 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 10: out there, that this information was compiled, the investigators had it, 757 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 10: HSI had it, USCIS had it, but it just wasn't 758 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 10: getting acted upon. Was it the same way we just 759 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 10: heard from the Attorney General in this case. 760 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 4: No. 761 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 11: I think it was a problem of again the Biden 762 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 11: administration not enforcing the role of law, them seeing an 763 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 11: exploitation of the system, and often being a part of 764 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 11: that exploitation of the system. Tim Walls, I mean, either 765 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 11: he's complicit or he's an idiot. I think that he 766 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 11: definitely knew about this and has just been has been 767 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 11: in some part involved in this. The amount of money 768 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 11: we've seen, though, the taxpayer dollars paying for this exploitation 769 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 11: and really a lot of the criminal activity that we've seen. 770 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 11: There was just actually a report shockingly out of the 771 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 11: New York Times where there are these shell companies that 772 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 11: were created to funnel money from government agencies and what 773 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 11: should have been social safety nets for American citizens and 774 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 11: said they were being siphoned to through fraud into line 775 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 11: individuals pockets, primarily people who were here on visas, and 776 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 11: unfortunately that costs the American taxpayers over a billion dollars, 777 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 11: and yet we saw very few arrests under This was 778 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 11: happening throughout the Biden administration, and it's only now that 779 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 11: the Trump administration comes into office that people are actually 780 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 11: being charged and they're actually going to be brought to justice. 781 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 10: And as as crazy as this is, you know, you 782 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 10: look at these types of programs that were letting people 783 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 10: in unvetted that there's so much fraud, there's so much 784 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 10: their rife with corruption, and it really seems as though 785 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 10: these were just handouts for our country to bring in 786 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 10: some of the worst actors in a variety, and not 787 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 10: just in Minneapolis, but in many of these communities. 788 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 6: Obviously, Ohio. 789 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 10: You and I talked about that quite a bit last 790 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 10: year we were from and so many other of these communities. 791 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 10: It seems as though, to your point, you know, Tim Walls, 792 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 10: the governor there, Joe Biden when he was the president, 793 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 10: Majorcus when he was a former secretary, I don't think 794 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 10: that they were just looking the other way. I think 795 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 10: that they were and this is just my opinion. I 796 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 10: think that this was something that they supported in the 797 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 10: New York Times. It's amazing by the way that the 798 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 10: New York Times suddenly finds out about this fraud because 799 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 10: all of these cases were going on while Tim Walls 800 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 10: was the candidate for the vice presidency last year. We 801 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 10: talked about them here on this show. I had Liz 802 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 10: Collin from Alpha News coming on talking about it. When 803 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 10: we got to the fifty seventh, fifty seventh defendant, and 804 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 10: the fifty eighth defendant, and the fifty ninth defendant, as 805 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 10: it went on and on and on, and they were 806 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 10: bribing jurors with bags of cash, one hundred twenty thousand 807 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 10: dollars in cash. 808 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 6: Interesting how the New York Times just didn't seem to 809 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 6: be interested last year. 810 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 11: No, you're so right, and one of the most important 811 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 11: elections of our lifetime. They you completely willfully ignored this. 812 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 11: Jackie makes such a good point. But right, it's not 813 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 11: just out of Minneapolis. What we saw is the creation 814 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 11: of these parole programs that really were just a rubber 815 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 11: stamp to let people in. It was to control the 816 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 11: optics from the border. Is they created say CHNV, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela, 817 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 11: that really just was a rubber stamp to let these 818 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 11: people into the country who would have otherwise come through 819 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 11: the border illegally. It was an optics and political play 820 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 11: by the Biden administration. A friend brought it up to 821 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 11: me actually and said, this was really just like legalizing 822 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 11: murder and saying that you solved the problem of violent crime. 823 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 7: And he's exactly right. 824 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 11: So I think that this is something we first of 825 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,959 Speaker 11: all stopped these programs. We also are looking at who 826 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 11: was let in here who hasn't left yet and getting 827 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 11: them the heck out of our country. 828 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 10: Well, it's exactly right, and you know we saw of course, 829 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 10: you know, I'm from Philadelphia, so I remember the You know, 830 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 10: what they used to do is they would claim that 831 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 10: murders were down because they would start scheduling or recategorizing 832 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 10: different things as not a homicide, this is an accidental death, 833 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 10: this was a suicide, or oh, this actually took place 834 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 10: outside the bounds of Philadelphia. 835 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 6: So they would play. 836 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 10: All these games over and over and over, and then 837 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 10: eventually what we also saw on the Bide administration with 838 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 10: the statistics that they that some of the large cities 839 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 10: in New York LA they weren't reporting their homicide data 840 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 10: to the FBI, so they could walk around and say. 841 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 6: Murders are down right, because you're not counting them anymore. 842 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 10: It's then, and it's something where it's just patently obvious 843 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 10: where people could see on the ground. If you're living 844 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 10: in Minneapolis, if you're living in one of these places, Springfield, Ohio, 845 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 10: any of these areas, you can see that your quality 846 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 10: of life has been severely diminished. And you can go 847 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 10: and look outside and realize that you are surrounded by 848 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 10: You're just being surrounded by migrants that are in the 849 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 10: country under some very vague pretense of being there. And 850 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 10: it's really as simple as that. And it doesn't surprise 851 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 10: me the DHS that the more you look into these 852 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 10: organizations and these situations, you're finding them completely rife with 853 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 10: fraudulent claims. You mentioned, you mentioned, so the nineteen countries 854 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 10: that are currently on the list you mentioned there may 855 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 10: be plans to expand. Can you tell us any of 856 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 10: the countries and if not, can you tell us what 857 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 10: are some of the some of the aspects and features 858 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 10: that you're looking for of countries that may make it 859 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 10: to that list. 860 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 11: Well, Secretary Nome gave President Trump a recommendation, I believe 861 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 11: it was on two Stay evening, and so he's looking 862 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 11: at that list and he'll be evaluating it. 863 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 7: But Jack, this is a. 864 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 11: List that was very much created with robust data and analysis. 865 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 11: It's first of all, looking do these governments Do these 866 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 11: regimes hate the United States of America? That should be 867 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 11: really what we first look at, because to some degree, 868 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 11: when individuals are coming from their country of origin to ours, 869 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 11: we collect information from those governments. So if you're trying 870 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 11: to collect information from the Taliban on and if an 871 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 11: individual should be coming into our country or if they 872 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 11: serve the American people's best entrants, we can ignore what 873 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 11: the Taliban says. That's exactly why President Trump has said 874 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 11: we need to be pausing all immigration benefits there. 875 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 7: So we're looking at regimes. 876 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 11: Is this government being run by a terrorist organization, we 877 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,479 Speaker 11: can't take the risk of them letting an individual into 878 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 11: our country from there. And then secondly, we're really looking 879 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 11: at leading indicators. What's the likelihood that this individual is 880 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 11: going to come into our country and either engage and fraud, 881 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 11: criminal activity, or be a public charge. So using our 882 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 11: social safety net as a hammock and really not bringing 883 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 11: any benefit to the American people and instead really just 884 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 11: using American taxpayer resources that should be going to the 885 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 11: American citizen. 886 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 6: Well, that's right. 887 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 10: And in some of these countries, and I remember this 888 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 10: coming up in the first Admen as well, where you 889 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 10: know people are trying to come in. They don't have 890 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 10: good databases, they don't have biometric data, they don't have 891 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 10: records keeping in many of these parts of the world. 892 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 10: So to say, oh, we checked our databases, we couldn't 893 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 10: find any informations because you don't even have a database. 894 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it makes no sense. 895 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 11: That's why it really does amaze me every time I've 896 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 11: put on CNN or MSNBC or MSN now that there 897 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 11: are these talking heads on there saying all these Afghan 898 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 11: refugees and those who came into this country under parole 899 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 11: were fully vetted. I can promise you I think now, 900 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 11: how the heck when you see the chaos, I mean 901 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 11: you can see with your own eyes it's military a 902 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 11: just being shipped and masses into our country. 903 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 10: There's just no thirty seconds thirty seconds yea. By the way, 904 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 10: a student secretary mcluffal, I want to ask you a 905 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 10: quick question, yes or no? If you lie about marital 906 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 10: status during a naturalization process, could that be ground for denaturalization? Yes, oh, 907 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 10: it certainly is. Thank you so much for joining us 908 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 10: here on human events daily lasion. Gentlemen, as always, you 909 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 10: have my permission to lay shore