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Speaker 1: Me Around the NFL Podcast is tired of Bill's quarterback

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Speaker 1: battle stories. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Room Build with heroes Lindsey Rhodes, Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rostal. What's up boys and Earls and Lindsay

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Speaker 1: and Lindsay you're a woman. Yes, I was just saying

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Speaker 1: that that was the and girls was the boys and Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be you're calling me out of sexist.

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Speaker 1: I feel like right at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano downstairs giving us a little grief that Lindsay

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Speaker 1: keeps being on but she comes with you. You're not

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Speaker 1: even You're not even on air today on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: You just came. I am once again off and here

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Speaker 1: just for you, which I think makes my life kind

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Speaker 1: of sad, Like at a certain point the people that

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Speaker 1: you just plan something on your off days? Like I

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Speaker 1: feel bad for you. Well, listen, I don't look at

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Speaker 1: it that way. I think you see the opportunity of

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Speaker 1: not just a career, but a lifetime to be involved

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Speaker 1: with our show. I gotta get in that studio. I

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Speaker 1: gotta get a taste of that magic. It's a ship

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Speaker 1: just taken off. Well, jump up rocket, Yeah whatever, spaceship,

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Speaker 1: you can go spaceship all right. So yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast and we have a great

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Speaker 1: show with Linz with us today. Um, a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to a lot. I got a lot of papers

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Speaker 1: in front of you right now. It's almost a little

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Speaker 1: bit intimidating. We have, you know, we have the Hall

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Speaker 1: talk about the big weekend and what he's doing out

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Speaker 1: there in Ohio. We have the Position Battle awards. That excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. That's I think what the drop

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Speaker 1: battles are going. That one is right in Greg's wheelhouse.

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Speaker 1: Because last night, late Sunday night, email lands and my

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Speaker 1: Gmail and it's Greg has all these different ideas. He

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Speaker 1: be a Rosenthal show. Well, we take we're now taping

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Speaker 1: But you know, we know what happens then what would happen? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just bad things all right there at all,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say. That's why I haven't

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Speaker 1: we could have talked your party Saturday, Well we can.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure my invitation just cassome. Now as I know that,

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Speaker 1: believe which is nice. I don't remember getting invited to

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't like I invited everyone but you type

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Speaker 1: of situation. And Lindsey, we're getting there, all right, Let's

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Speaker 1: I feel like barely. Yeah, Lindsey, we're working towards something

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Speaker 1: that what you knew that was. Is it gonna get old?

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Frank Gifford has died at the age

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Speaker 1: Frank Gifford is maybe the ultimate giant versatile star both

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Speaker 1: as you well know as the host of this fine program, uh,

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Speaker 1: the league. It almost feels like we've come to a

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Speaker 1: point in the NFL's evolution where you need to separate them,

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Speaker 1: where it's like somehow you've got a pretest rusher category

431
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Speaker 1: and then you've got the sideline tackler. I find the

432
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Speaker 1: sideline has to be a different category than edge rush.

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Speaker 1: Call it the roads rule. I would love that. Yes,

434
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Speaker 1: let's let's definitely name an NFL rule after me. I

435
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Speaker 1: like it. I'm on board for that being it. Let's

436
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Speaker 1: give PFF a little off too. By the way, I

437
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: always make fun of Pro Football Focus. Well here they're

438
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: like the things we disagree with, but I think they've

439
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: raised awareness for some of these guys. They were early

440
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: on the lead the Levy and Lavante David Um bandwagon.

441
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: And look, the NFL teams agree. They're paying him ten

442
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Absolutely, three cheers for PFF. That that's big

443
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: words from West. Remember the awkward showdown you had with

444
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: that guy was very nice. I didn't think it was

445
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Speaker 1: awkward at all. You basically assassinated him on the air. Well, look,

446
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: you can't have Gary Barninge or whatever the guy's name

447
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: was as your top rated tight end like Gary barn

448
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: is getting something. Actually it wasn't. Yeah, Ben Harts is

449
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: your number one rated tight end because he's a good blocker.

450
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Speaker 1: Give me a break, All right, let's move on to

451
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants Jason Pierre Paul. We all know

452
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Speaker 1: what happened to poor jp P on the fourth of July.

453
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Speaker 1: Lost the finger, jacked up his hand thanks to some

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Speaker 1: fireworks Shenanigans. Uh. New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin said

455
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Speaker 1: Saturday that he's finally uh spoke with his star defensive end.

456
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Speaker 1: They had a quote good conversation on Friday, but then

457
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Speaker 1: again the news that Pierre Paul is not going to

458
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Speaker 1: report to the Giants and signed that franchise tag until

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Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to get on the field. Coughlin had

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Speaker 1: this to say, He's looking forward to coming, He's anxious

461
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Speaker 1: to be here, but he's not gonna come until he

462
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Speaker 1: feels like he's ready to play. Clearly, you don't have

463
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Speaker 1: to read between the lines. Giants management is frustrated with

464
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Speaker 1: how JPP has handled all of this, and uh, they

465
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Speaker 1: don't know when they're going to get him back. Are

466
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Speaker 1: we gonna see Jack lindsay, We're gonna see JPP on

467
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Speaker 1: the field this year. This is a weird situation this year.

468
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Speaker 1: I don't know, not at anytime soon. And then when

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Speaker 1: he does get back on the field, is he going

470
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Speaker 1: to be able to do what he did before? I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: and he's sort of for a while. He's missing too, right,

472
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Speaker 1: because he has that fractured thumb also, so I don't

473
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Speaker 1: even really know how messed up the hand is. Beyond

474
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Speaker 1: the finger the thumb, that could be even worse. Well,

475
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Speaker 1: John John Mara keeps saying the same line. He said

476
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Speaker 1: it on Monday again when he spoke that he doesn't

477
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Speaker 1: know how many fingers JPPS, which sounds like he's almost

478
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: making a joke about it, but I think he means it.

479
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: He said at that point he was sending him a message,

480
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Speaker 1: I think right, because that was before JPP really had

481
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Speaker 1: talked to anybody in the organization. And he's saying, look,

482
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Speaker 1: we don't even we don't even know because we haven't

483
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Speaker 1: seen him, because this guy won't at us in the room.

484
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he won't return our phone calls. I pointed

485
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Speaker 1: this story out as something we talked about just because

486
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Speaker 1: it seemed crazy to me that Coughlin didn't speak to

487
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Speaker 1: him until Friday, and that they have no idea when

488
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Speaker 1: he's going to show back up, and that Tom Coughlin

489
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Speaker 1: texted him almost immediately after it happened, and JPP didn't

490
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Speaker 1: get off to him. That doesn't seem like the kind

491
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Speaker 1: of coach that you blow off a text from and

492
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Speaker 1: then you're gonna come back and you're gonna be welcomed

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Speaker 1: back into the organization. Tom Coughlin seems to mean he

494
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Speaker 1: can say everything's fine, but he just doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're five minutes early for a meeting,

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Speaker 1: you're late. If it's Tom Coughlin, this guy doesn't text

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Speaker 1: you back for a couple of weeks. I be happy

498
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Speaker 1: if this continues. I would not be shocked that this

499
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Speaker 1: relationship falls apart entirely if the communication doesn't build back

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Speaker 1: up and he never plays again for the Giants. Steve

501
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Speaker 1: Steve Tiss, who's the Giants, Cohner has said he you know,

502
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Speaker 1: quoted the Daily News saying he's very frustrating because Pierre

503
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Speaker 1: Paul won't reach out to him. Said that we have

504
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants have the best doctors in the country,

505
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Speaker 1: if not the world, and we want to help you,

506
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: and yet you you insist on being in Florida. There's

507
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Speaker 1: a serious amount of frustration building up and I get it.

508
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: And look, we've made quite an investment in you and

509
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: this wasn't like you got in a car accident. Something

510
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: was completely out of your control. And you know you're

511
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: understandably upset about how this will impact your life moving forward.

512
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: Needs some time to yourself. You made bad choices, and

513
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Speaker 1: those will have ramifications for our football team, Like we're

514
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Speaker 1: reaching out to you to show you a little empathy.

515
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Speaker 1: You need to give us something back. In fairness, did

516
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Speaker 1: you see those pictures of his the band is and

517
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: everything like that would be tough to text with. I'm

518
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Speaker 1: just trying to imagine you didn't. I've got the voice

519
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: a little too. That is, it's about a month or so,

520
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Speaker 1: maybe six weeks, and we can make the texting hand joke. Okay, sorry,

521
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Speaker 1: we'll revisit that. Uh lindsay you're bringing the fire today,

522
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Speaker 1: Fire and Flannel. That is like the nickname if you

523
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Speaker 1: had to remember those posters, the cheesy nineties posters where

524
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: they would be in like like Warren Moon would be

525
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Speaker 1: like full moon, howling fire and flannel, like in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the death Wait wait, would I be going

527
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Speaker 1: like that? Arms, arms like price, like hashtag fire and flannel.

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Speaker 1: All right, uh, we have football. By the way, football

529
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Speaker 1: was played for the first time this season, the Hall

530
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Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame game, our own Mark Sessler, who

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Speaker 1: again the sizzler who's been out of the mix on

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Speaker 1: the show for the past few shows. We'll be back

533
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Speaker 1: when we talk to him a little bit later. But

534
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Speaker 1: there was a game the Minnesota Vikings and Pittsburgh Steelers.

535
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Speaker 1: A really exciting action packed the game. You never forget

536
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: four teen three Vikings win. I'm just kidding. It was

537
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: not exciting. No big bend, no apeah, nothing, nothing to

538
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: get excited about. But football's football, and it did gangbusters ratings.

539
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: I think I saw a tweet that it had better

540
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: ratings in the Stanley Cup finals. So football, yeah, people

541
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Speaker 1: are I can't wait to tell my husband because he

542
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: was making fun of me that I was excited for this.

543
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: He was like, it doesn't matter, and I said, look

544
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: at for one theories that matters this week because you're

545
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: going to see some starters. Wait, I watched Bridget Jones

546
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: diary instead of this football. That's ridiculous. It wasn't my choice.

547
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Do you know you're gonna date. Do you watch it?

548
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Cost you your job? You want to keep that fan

549
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: base that you alluded to on the last show. Look

550
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Bridget jones Diary but it forgive me in a side here.

551
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: But Mark Darcy, the guy in that show, should have

552
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: never gone with Bridget Jones. Who's just she messes up everything,

553
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: she has nothing going for her, and that whole show

554
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: is just ridiculous. This would have been a great topic

555
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: for the podcast, or whenever, that's a terrible movie? Who

556
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: was we agree with on that? How did this? How

557
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: did you even come to see that movie? I was

558
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Speaker 1: given a choice of a few, and that was wait,

559
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Speaker 1: did you watch it with a lady friend with a

560
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Speaker 1: lady lady? Lady? Was it the one that's in the

561
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Speaker 1: mix right now? There are a few in the mix,

562
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: wait saying whoa hey, oh do they listen to the podcast?

563
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: To be careful, he will be careful with your words.

564
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: I haven't told them that I do a podcast. Okay,

565
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: that's smartly, but they clearly these are deep relationships that

566
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: you're going figure it out, all right? Is this the moment?

567
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you scream podcaster? Alright, flawed? I'd like us

568
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: that we're talking about all this highlights. Mike Zimmer and

569
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin are glaring down. We should still keep talking

570
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: about it. Well, there's nothing really to report, Okay, alright,

571
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: Well she got you to watch Jones diary. We know

572
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: that a football we know that you can be pretty well. Look,

573
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch the Hall of Fame game

574
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: no matter what. You could be pretty unbendable, Bridgewater. You

575
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: can watch game pass comes up sometimes soon you can

576
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Speaker 1: watch it on that Hey, I'll give you a little uh,

577
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little takeaway from it. Your boy

578
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: Ryan's his ear all over the field again, he's Mr preseason.

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Speaker 1: He looked great. That was my only takeaway. You know something?

580
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: Is there a lady in the lead right now? Off

581
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: your heart? I don't even think my heart's into it yet.

582
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's see what happens here. I mean, let's let's

583
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: take it slow. Are how many dates in are we?

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Speaker 1: How many dates deep with this girl too? Okay, all right,

585
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: I'll give you that interesting. What does she think about

586
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: dree Archer? She has no idea who dree Archer is. Okay,

587
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: West play in the field. I like it. He's in

588
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: the game. All right, that's good at a lot there.

589
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: So that game happened, and more football is to come.

590
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: The biggest news really to come out of the game.

591
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: The place kicker for the Steelers show on Sweet him

592
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: towards a c L. So his season is over. So

593
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: and by the way, I know, we joke around kickers

594
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: who cares not easy to kick in Hines field, extra

595
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: points are further back. They gotta now, they gotta find

596
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: a kicker that's not a that's not a small small thing.

597
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: He's been one of the most accurate kickers in the

598
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: NFL the last couple of years, which is surprising. He

599
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: had a pretty bad start to the crew. You're right,

600
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: that used to be kind of the graveyard for kickers,

601
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, a tough place, probably fine one where they

602
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: found seem for free. Just wait till somebody drafts him

603
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: in your fantasy league. Good point. Um, all right, that's

604
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. Hey, let's talk about some

605
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: position battles. In fact, it's called the Position Battle Awards.

606
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Let's go for it. So why don't we go around

607
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the table here and each throw out a position battle

608
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: in training camp right now? You know, for the sake

609
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: of let's have some fun here, give it a title,

610
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: what what the what the award is, and we'll start

611
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: with fiery and flannel Lindsay Rhodes. We're gonna start with me.

612
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Excuse me, We're gonna start with I would love to

613
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Speaker 1: lead us off now listen, We're not gonna do it, though. Listen,

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Speaker 1: We're listen the now transitions coming right now. It used

615
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Speaker 1: to be able to throw to whoever I wanted to,

616
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Speaker 1: and it was fun. Now I'm I'm very structured. Td

617
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Speaker 1: S glaring at me. He's disapproving of my abilities as

618
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Speaker 1: a host. We're gonna start with West, get us going, baby,

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Speaker 1: most Matt money Smith alluded to it opening Drop the

620
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Speaker 1: most life draining quarterback battle in the NFL. The Bills,

621
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Speaker 1: who just every time you hear anything about them, you

622
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: don't think they can get any worse, But they do.

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Speaker 1: I think um. One of the Beat writers, used the

624
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: phrase mostly putrid to describe their performance in in the

625
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday, Matt Castle basically they told him to

626
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: hand off every time. E J. Manuel won by default

627
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: because after all three quarterbacks had gone against the first,

628
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: second and third team defenses, he finally found the end zone,

629
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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor made a few good passive and missed too

630
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: many throws. Uh So, basically all three continued to be underwhelming, subpar, humanistic,

631
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Speaker 1: robot awful quarterbacks. Whatever. I have two tweets from the

632
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Speaker 1: session today, one from Matthew fairburn ej Manuel's first pass

633
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Speaker 1: of the two minute drill against the third team defense

634
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: was intercepted by undrafted rookie West Miller, and from Tyler Dunn.

635
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Manuel bobble the shotguns snapping through it at Wood's feet

636
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Speaker 1: on a quick out. Bad day for him, good day

637
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Speaker 1: for Castle. Castle did get some good news. He will

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Speaker 1: start the preseason opener, which the first crack. Yeah, what's

639
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: concerning to me is that every day that you check

640
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: in with a beat writer there on Twitter, every day

641
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: a different quarterback has had a good day and an

642
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: awful day. It's there's no continuity there. Well, part of

643
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: the biggest part of the problem. And I've been watching

644
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: this one pretty closely. If they're going up against Mario

645
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Williams and Marcel Darius and that defensive line, and then, oh,

646
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: by the way, the Bill's offensive line could stink like

647
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: it might be a really poor offensive line. You got

648
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: Corty Glenn. You know, you would think he's solid. Other

649
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: than that, they're getting overwhelmed and they're definitely not quarterbacks

650
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: that are going to be able to overcome that. So

651
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: even though they're not going to go up against the

652
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: Bills every week, they are going to go up against

653
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins and and have some troubles.

654
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: That does Rex Ryan put himself back in this position.

655
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing. It's Groundhog Day in his

656
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: NFL career, and he said it himself. I don't know

657
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: if it's true, but when he got hired, he said,

658
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: this is my last chance, and I'm going to make

659
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: sure I make this work. Will you just put yourself

660
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: in the same situation that sabotaged your first shot at

661
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: this It's the team that is in quote quarterback purgatory,

662
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: according to its general manager Doug Whaley, who went on

663
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: local radio last week and essentially said, like, we're probably

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Speaker 1: not getting a franchise quarterback anytime soon because we're gonna

665
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: be too good to draft them that high. Hey, by

666
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: the way, that don't assume you're gonna win eight games

667
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: or nine games again. You might be back at the

668
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: top of the draft. I think the Bills personally will

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00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: be good, but it's the NFL. Only about three teams

670
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: can assume they're gonna win ten games. After that, anyone

671
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: could be a four or five win team that defense

672
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: can give them. I was gonna say, you see the

673
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: number of wins. Maybe the GM shouldn't say that, but

674
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: you see his point, like they're probably gonna will that

675
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: defense could will them to at least six wins, and

676
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: then you're out of the top five in the draft. Hey, draft,

677
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: how about look at the top quarterbacks in like Drew Brees,

678
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Tom Brady. There's plenty of guys that aren't.

679
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's not that easy to find a quarterback.

680
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Mr Thron, did you see what I've been a quarterback

681
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: purgatory since seventy Did you read why Rex didn't even

682
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: know what's that? Rex said he considered signing Michael Vick,

683
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: but his hands are too small, which seems on the

684
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: list of problems with the Bill's quarterbacks pretty slight compared

685
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: to E. J. Manuel Matt Castle on Tyrod Taylor. Small

686
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: hands might get you the job in Buffalo, Lindsey the

687
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: next award, Let's go for least dramatic quarterback battle, and

688
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: I think that that obviously goes to the Eagles, Sam

689
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Bradefood Mark Sanchez, who here thought this was going to

690
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: be a quarterback battle coming into the year, because they

691
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: sort of said that, and then as soon as training

692
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: camp started, they were like, hey, guess what, Sam Bradford's

693
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: our guy for I did not because I have a

694
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: sandwich on it in Weston Market and look, he could

695
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: go down with another a c L injury any minute.

696
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: Well that's fair. That was part of the reason why

697
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I took the proposition, because you thought he might tear

698
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: as a c L. Yeah, I think Sam Bradford, there's

699
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: no I mean, anything can happen between now and then

700
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: as far as injuries go. And he's not a guy

701
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: who inspires confidence there. Well, he's inspired confidence in the

702
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Eagles coaching staff and maybe they just have to say it.

703
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: But he hasn't missed, by the way, a single rep

704
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: of training camp, forget miss a day. He's been taking

705
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: all the snaps. He's been out there for every rep.

706
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: And they said, you know, Chip Kelly's talking him up

707
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: that he picks up our reads. He's accurate. I don't

708
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: know if they're just saying that to build him up.

709
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, they're making it clear. Like Lindsay said,

710
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: it's not really a battle. Things over sorry mark Over.

711
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: Before it started, they never really battle. They said it

712
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: was going to be a battle, and then before they

713
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: even took their first reps, they were like Bradford Winner,

714
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Eagles West. Nice try Sanchez with that move. It is

715
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: his move and he is a perfect backup quarterback for

716
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: that team, and he knows the offense and he performed

717
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: decent last year. How about a little drama though we

718
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: talked about this on our last show, but Tim Tebow,

719
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: you know if the quarterback room is he gonna make

720
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: the team? Was a little drama there. There is a

721
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: little bit bark Barkley or Tebow, Right, one of them's

722
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: got to go. There's Barkley. You're a usc um a lum, right, Lindsey,

723
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: I am. So you have very close personal ties to

724
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley. Probably go the same wine mixers and sent

725
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: you wine mixers. That's the mos Trojan's Do you like him?

726
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: I like him very much. Barkley is a good guy.

727
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: That Barkley is a very nice guy. I'm reading between

728
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: the lines that means bad guy. Maybe no, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

729
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: Not much drama in Philadelphia, maybe there will be some

730
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: drama in Cleveland. I'm gonna give the Cleveland Battle Award

731
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: that transition a B plus. Okay, I'm gonna give it

732
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: the Metaphysical Battle Award because Johnny Manzel, he's not battling

733
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Josh McCown, who is you know, a person flesh and

734
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: blood out there with him every day. He's battling something

735
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: in the future. He's batting November Josh McCary. This is

736
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: You're painting quite a picture here because he's not gonna

737
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: start Week one. But like a science fiction team, I

738
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: think Manzel is battling. Ultimately, he's battling himself, and he's

739
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: battling the version of Josh McCown that's going to be

740
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: out there for the three and seven Browns in November.

741
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: And so what Johnny Man's doing right now he smarts Josh.

742
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: He's building up a resume, and he's trying to show

743
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: to the bosses, hey, guys, I'm much better this year.

744
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: When this season goes poorly, which most likely will because

745
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: your number one receivers, Taylor Gabriel, Let's go to me

746
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you something in August like he did

747
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: at the scrimmage on Friday night, where you know, people

748
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: were pretty impressed with what Manzel did, and and try

749
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: to show that he's in the mix later in the season.

750
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: The ongoing disrespect for Josh McCown in this studio is

751
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. Albert Albert Brier, who was just in Borea,

752
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: he came away convinced that the Browns think Josh mc

753
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: they're getting the two thous not the two thousand fourteen.

754
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: Josh mcowny was stuck behind the worst offensive line in

755
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: the NFL. This is his seventh team. I'm not the

756
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: only one who you know, do the have faith in

757
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: Josh McCown. Six other teams that football Cogniz said he

758
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: don't have faith in. But let's just take a step

759
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: back and look at this logically, that Josh McCown has

760
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: never had sustained success in the NFL. He bombed out

761
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: in his most previous recent season, and now he goes

762
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: to quarterback health. The purgatory is in Buffalo. Quarterback Hell's

763
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: this is mann't have Flutie Jeff Garcia. None of that

764
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: happened in Cleveland I'm just saying these things have Quarterbacks

765
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: have been known to have late career epiphanies. Jeff Garcia

766
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: did happen in Cleveland, asked Browns fans about that, well,

767
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: different type of I take issue with your crowning Taylor

768
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: Gabriel is their number one. That that was essentially a

769
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: shot their lack of number one. By the way, Mark again,

770
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna get him on the phone and talk to

771
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: him all about Brown's camp. And you haven't lived until

772
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler is live tweeting Brown's practice on your tweet deck,

773
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: and I I am enjoying. I feel like that my

774
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: whole life has been building towards this happening, and it

775
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: was going on this morning, so I can't wait to

776
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: talk to me. Mayak was really talking men Zo up

777
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: or his calm feet and saying they've strung to gather

778
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: three practice. What I'm saying is there's no reason to

779
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: ignore the fact that he apparently is building a little

780
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: bit all right now, speaking of the Browns, I will

781
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: throw out the most depressing quarterback battle it's happening down

782
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: in Houston, the Sight of Hard Knocks, by the way,

783
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow Tuesday, the old Zeuser uh is continuing the

784
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: hard Knocks recaps for around the NFL. Uh So check

785
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: that out. We'll be talking about some hard knocks. That's

786
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: not the point, but it's good to get a plug in,

787
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: even if it's for myself the moment. Oh, by the way,

788
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: hard Knocks is will also be airing. That's kind of

789
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: a love how he made that about himself. I think

790
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: the joy slash shock on Lindsay's face when he referred

791
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: to yourself as the old Zeuser that he signed an

792
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: email to me as the old suser. Well that's my name.

793
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: That cap it out too, just throwing it in my face. Hey,

794
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: you had your chance, give me a nickname. The most

795
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: depressing battle is Brian Horyer versus Ryan Mallett, because we're

796
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: getting reports out there that either guys really pulled ahead.

797
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: I guess Hoyer has seen as the favorite, but Ryan

798
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: mall was the guy that I think everybody in Houston

799
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: they wanted him to somehow be this steal that they

800
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: get from the Patriots. It's not gonna looking like it's

801
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna work out. Malt can't throw to a receiver, he

802
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: has no accuracy, so Hoyer will probably be the week

803
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: one starter, you would think. But at the same time,

804
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: this is a legitimate competition still between two middling C

805
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: two C minus quarterbacks and without Arian Foster there, and

806
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: we talked about this West they go from, you know,

807
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: playoff sleeper type team too. If they got atrocious quarterback

808
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: play with Alfred Blue behind the quarterback, this could be

809
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: a terrible offense. I'm glad you brought up Arian Foster

810
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: because I thought about this over the weekend. That should

811
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: change the quarterback battle. When they had Arian Foster and

812
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: they can be a run heavy team and hide Brian Hoyer,

813
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: it made sense to go with Brian Hoyer. Now you

814
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: have no running game, Like Greg said, the average three

815
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: point one yards per per carry all the other running

816
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: backs in Houston without a running game, Why don't you

817
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: just see what you have in Mau who actually has

818
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: the arm to pull off a passing attack. M You

819
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: can't structure this game around play action fakes. Now, when

820
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: did you think of this Saturday? While I was walking

821
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: under the bridget Jones's diary or three quarters because your

822
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: mind had to have been wandering Saturday. I was walking

823
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: down the beach before I got a ride to Dan

824
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: to Dan's party walking down the beach, you know, thinking

825
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: about the King of Houston and Ryan Mallett that that

826
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: almost made sense your point on Mallett Hoyer, thank you,

827
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: It almost made change. They're thinking. But I don't know

828
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: either way. You just you need to find someone who

829
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: could do You remember what happened to Brian Hoyer late

830
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: last year with the Browns when they didn't have a

831
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: running attack. It wasn't fun to watch. The bloom came

832
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: off the rose. It is an interesting question, though, that

833
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: you bring up that Hoyer is sort of established as

834
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: an average quarterback in this league. He's had a shot.

835
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: We know what he is capable of doing, although not

836
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: in the best of environments. Uh, is it worth just

837
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: giving Mallet a shot? I think let's roll the dice

838
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: and see and then we can always go back to Hoyer.

839
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I think we heard this

840
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: thing might end quickly, and now it doesn't seem like

841
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna all right. So there it is. Those you

842
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: have another one, Greg, did you want to throw something

843
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: else out there? Well? There were you know, there's lots

844
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: of other battles. Those are just quarterbacks, of course, I

845
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: mean I would throw out the the in Belichick we

846
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: trust award to the Patriots running backs if any other

847
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: team was potentially rolling out Treveris Cadet and James White

848
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: and Lewis Dion Lewis has potential week when starters would

849
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: be making fun of them and talking about what you know,

850
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: disaster this is, and yet Patriots like it'll be fine,

851
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: leaguered out with Jimmy will have Tom Brady for sixteen games,

852
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: got a screen. Let's just count on la Garrett Blunt

853
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: when he gets back from his knee surgery and his suspension,

854
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: he'll be fine. Jonas Gig, He's a reliable guy. Blunt.

855
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: That's a good in though. I mean, give me a break, Jonah.

856
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: I was sleeping on Jonah Square a little bit. It's

857
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: not like I ever did anything to uh not earn

858
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: any more benefit of doubt after two yard four touchdown

859
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: game and just stopp getting played. Yeah, I mean, he

860
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: could be he could be a guy. There's a lot

861
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: of injuries affecting these running back the Falcons running backs,

862
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: and either one of them are healthy right now. Darren

863
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: McFadden hasn't been able to play for the Cowboys. We're

864
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: just getting going. We got four more weeks? Exciting? Is

865
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: this football is really back? You know, you go through

866
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: the off season, you're trying to come up with things

867
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: to talk about that is no longer the case. J

868
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: jabber jabber. Okay, this podcast has sounded much like that, Lizzie,

869
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: are you regretting? Get your decision? If you at what

870
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: point in the show we're about the forty four minute mark,

871
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: did you start regretting coming in? Ah? You know, how

872
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: about when you were doing again you were seeing Sarah

873
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: McLaughlin before the show. We get a little bit that. No,

874
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: Actually I wanted to queue it up for when we

875
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: were talking about West the Stable Boys losing its greatest tenant,

876
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: and then you would drop a little acapella. So we're

877
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: gonna throw it to you. Here you go. What song

878
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: was it again that we're doing? I will remember you? Yeah? Okay,

879
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: just pretend we'd like, are you going to talk over?

880
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm laying the music bed. Oh I thought

881
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: it was a lovely render. Pretend the screen is showing

882
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of adopted dogs, very sickly. All right, here

883
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: we go acapella. I feel like you need to continue

884
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: talking about something behind you. I meant always appreciated, and

885
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: he's not leaving life. He's still going to be around.

886
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: It's just not well. I think it's better to go

887
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: out on top than to regret there. You stay too long.

888
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: You don't care about that. That was really good. I

889
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: liked how you guys acted it out to You have

890
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: looked like this is a very serious conversation. Anone's going

891
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: to drop some serious knowledge. I had nothing. I feel

892
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: like you guys had more pressure on you in that

893
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: little than I did. Pressure a fake conversation. All right,

894
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's background actor. That was good, Linda, because

895
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: like banana rudebag or something like that, so that it

896
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: looks like this isn't a shot at Dan, but you

897
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: definitely have the best singing group of singing voice or

898
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: a singing voice. Yeah, you're lying, but Dan does not. Yeah,

899
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: he was no offense. Dan, I will remember you, You

900
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: remember me. Don't let you past got the lyrics, don't

901
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: let your past at that. Dylan's like, Saray, do you

902
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: want to take another pass at that lyric? No, I

903
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: don't let your pass pass your by. That's what I want.

904
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Get those dogs on the screen. All right, here we go,

905
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: Let's get Mark Cesler speaking of dogs and the Dog Pound,

906
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler are are great around the NFL writer. He

907
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: was a Canton this weekend. Now he is at an

908
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: Indian burial ground known as Brown's Camp. Where he is, Uh?

909
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Where are we are at the the Indian burial ground

910
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: known as Brown's Camp. Fellas, it's Mark there, I am

911
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: you know TD put me? Oh, there you go, that's

912
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: what you're waiting Quart. Sorry, I sense that we were

913
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: waiting for something. I was, but I didn't know what.

914
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: You put me on the line about five minutes ago

915
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: and the train is completely off. Um. I hope that

916
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: is not a reference to my singing, because that was

917
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: good stuff. That was That was high shelf Dan. Actually,

918
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: I can vouch for Dan that if you get a

919
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: few uh gray hounds and Dan he can sing. Thank you.

920
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: I think you got to put him in the right fire.

921
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: I've had some moments in karaoke where I've got confidence

922
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: a very talented group. Well, as we established much earlier

923
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: in the podcast, I'm not invited to those types of gatherings.

924
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: So I yet I couldn't say not yet. You're on

925
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: approbation Park, So you were in Canton this weekend? Why

926
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: don't we start there and then we'll get to what's

927
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: going on at Brown's camp. Um, we'll start and can

928
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: so tell us a little bit about the Hall of

929
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: Fame experience. I know you've been there before, but this

930
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: is now your second go around. Tell us about it,

931
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: you know. I this time around, I found it to

932
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: be much more enjoyable. And I'm not sure what it was.

933
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: I just think that, uh, it's a weekend where there's

934
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: a lot of football players around and they're not currently

935
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: athletes where they're trying to keep a lid on whatever

936
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: is going on with them and their team. They're very

937
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: willing to talk and I mean, you know, for lack

938
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: of a better word, it's sort of just a big celebration.

939
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: And I thought it was just the access to these

940
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: guys was great, and the ceremony itself, but the thought that, uh,

941
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: you know, it was one of the better ones, and

942
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: it was it was fun to cover. I thought that

943
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: what Sydney say I did did a great job. I thought,

944
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: I mean, under a lot of pressure and each of them,

945
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, we got a chance to speak to each

946
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Famers the day before they were inducted,

947
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: and I know that you guys think that I love

948
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: like a offensive and defensive coordinators. My new thing is

949
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: GMS Bill Poling and Ron Wolfe. You could just sit

950
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: and talk to those guys for days on end. They

951
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: were giving us just great stuff about Bill Parcels passing

952
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: on Reggie White out of the USFL back in the day.

953
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys, you know, they just want to

954
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: sit and talk about the old time. So I enjoyed that.

955
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: I was talking to Charles Haley. Did he leave an

956
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: impression the day before? Yeah, I mean I think Haley,

957
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: every time he opened his mouth, it's going to be

958
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: something that you pretty much didn't expect and probably doesn't

959
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the question that you asked.

960
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: So it was that wasn't that was enjoyable. I think he's,

961
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's not the guy he was necessarily back

962
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys and forty Niners locker room. I mean

963
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: he kind of went I think he came to Canton

964
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: trying to put that forward and express that, um, he

965
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: was by far the most entertaining, unpredictable of the group,

966
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: and I don't think the speech the speech showed that

967
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, but kind of the day before just

968
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: being in the same room with him, and the way

969
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: he was interacting with some of the old cowboys be writers.

970
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he was completely off the cuff. I thought.

971
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: One of the most powerful moments, and I agree the

972
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: ceremony was really good this year was when Charles Haley

973
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: talked about his mental illness, Like he he talked about

974
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: something that's an issue that's that affects a lot of people,

975
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: and he talked about it very openly, I think in

976
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: a way that people had no idea from him, and

977
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: it kind of explains a little bit what you heard

978
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: about Charles Haley and when he was on NFL network.

979
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean I found him fascinating. It was a lot

980
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. Yeah, I agree, and I think

981
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: that it you know, something that you kind of never

982
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: know when these guys are playing, is the support they're

983
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: getting at some point from like their owners. The way

984
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: he talked about Eddie de Bartelow and Jerry Jones and

985
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: how Jerry Jones went out of his way to help

986
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: his daughter when she had leukemia. I mean, you just

987
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, we have these vague ideas of what Jerry

988
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: Jones is and some of it's accurate, some of it's

989
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: not in a de bartelow. You know all the history

990
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: with the legal stuff, but behind the scenes, like I

991
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: think Charles Haley looked at those guys almost as father figures.

992
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: That's the way he spoke about them. So tell us

993
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: about Brown's camp. It, Well, I am currently not there.

994
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm at an airport hotel where there's someone in the

995
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: hallway vacuums, very loud, very concerning. But UM camp was great.

996
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: I almost did not get there because there was a

997
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: massive car accident on the highway and I tried to

998
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: use Google Maps to get there and it rerouted me

999
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: to like central Kentucky, so I just made it, and uh,

1000
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: it was cool. I thought it was. You know, I

1001
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: haven't obviously knocked into a lot of practices, so it

1002
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: was a little surreal. Um got a chance to talk

1003
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: with Mike Patton, and I noticed because you were doing

1004
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: in your live tweets at at one point Danny Shelton's calves. Yeah,

1005
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I like Danny Kelton is absolutely massive, and at one

1006
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: point you referred to Petton as pet. Well, listen, that's

1007
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: where I'm at with Pennon at this point. That's that's

1008
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, I sat down with him,

1009
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: I said what I I. We got to the point

1010
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I asked him what kind of he's at a bar?

1011
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: What does he drink? He's a Moscow mule drinker. Oh, interesting,

1012
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: I made. I made something for my wife over They

1013
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: carry trendy well, he said, he ticked it up about

1014
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: six months ago. He's normally Budweiser, Miller and he's also Dan.

1015
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: You and I read a Stephen King book. He read

1016
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: it twice. He's obsessed with the g He's obsessed with

1017
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: the jfk Assess name one thing about Patton just I

1018
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: don't want to stop him. Mark. But in the words

1019
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: of the Rick Flair Macho Manfeud and ninety two about

1020
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: Miss Elizabeth, he was mine before he was yours. Well,

1021
00:51:54,719 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: he's mine now fighting over Yeah. I love that, and

1022
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: too think it's a rare move to go from Miller,

1023
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Lite and Budweiser to Moscow mules. Yeah. Maybe it's a

1024
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: little cosmo folitan in Cleveland now. I think his salary

1025
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: probably went up at some point. That's a fair point.

1026
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Did you feel like Jerome Bettis was taking a personal

1027
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: shot at Browns fans and most particularly you, when he

1028
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: kept saying Ohio is Steelers country. And then the Steelers

1029
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: fans who were there, and we're there in bigger numbers

1030
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: than I've ever seen any teams fans be there at

1031
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame responded and basically we're taunting you. Uh,

1032
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: it did feel that way. I tried to remove myself

1033
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: from the situation to some degree, but you know, we're

1034
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: up in that press box and it's at number one.

1035
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: It's a high school stadium like I've never seen in

1036
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: my life. I mean basically it's it is three times

1037
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: as big as the high school stadium I went to,

1038
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: and it was terrible. Towels swinging in the air, and

1039
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: for me on some level was a massive nightmare. Jr.

1040
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: Own bed it's how can you not like Bet? It's

1041
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: like mean he I thought he was a total class

1042
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: act and like they all came out for him, and

1043
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: that fan base. You could put it. You could have

1044
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: put this in Central Russia and they would have shown up.

1045
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: That's what they do. One thought on the Hall of

1046
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: Fame ceremony, if listeners out there, if if like me,

1047
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: you missed the ceremony, Mark did fantastic job. It's really

1048
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: well written and he captured really all of the poignant

1049
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: moments in his article recapping the entire insrinement ceremony. So

1050
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: definitely check it out. Can we back up really quickly?

1051
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: You missed the ceremony too. Oh whoa, you have to

1052
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: watch the Bridge Jones Diary sequel. I was at Dan's party. Well,

1053
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: you throw all party during the Hall of Fame, you'll

1054
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: be invited next year. Lindsay went over this. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame dude. I don't know. It's not my bag,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I Mark makes it come alive for

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Speaker 1: me here with the Mark did a great job of it.

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Speaker 1: West is really not gonna like the Hall of Fame

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00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: when Eli goes in and about nine years puts him

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00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. West, I think you would

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00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: like to cover it though, because there are some like hot,

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00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: like total hot, radioactive, hot button deadlines. Deal with that.

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Speaker 1: Mark will talk about women. No, No, I'm like I'm

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Speaker 1: down that road. There was this lady in a bettest

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00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: Jersey speaking uh Sessler did Instagram and Facebook a picture

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Speaker 1: of cheerleaders from behind and the caption was Football's back. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I gotta be honest, that's one of those

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00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: things where you're moving a hundred miles of a minute.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a nice photo, and immediately after

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Speaker 1: the first couple of responses came in, I thought, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I wrote the wrong tagline here. Oh I thought there

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00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: was a nod to the s I swimsuit cover with

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00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Christie Brinkley. It says, no, I don't. I'm not nodding.

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00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not that wouldn't be my my a

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Speaker 1: game to be coming off the Hall of Fame weekend

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00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: trying to make light of at it just sort of

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Speaker 1: had it happened, and I thought afterwards this could be problematic,

1078
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Speaker 1: But like everything, it just fades into the ether that

1079
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: I wanted to comment on that thread and say, smartass,

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Speaker 1: well what I like the most that I put it

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Speaker 1: on my Facebook page, and our producer t D tried

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00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: to create some sort of rift, you know, I have

1083
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: like my family, my parents, parents in law. Yeah, well

1084
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a FI. I'm not going down that road.

1085
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: But TD trying to raise, you know, get the controversy

1086
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: started with his comment on that photo. Did not appreciate

1087
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: that one bit. It was just an interesting shop and

1088
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: it's all an interesting angle. I was, you know, just

1089
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: wondering that's what I took away from Hey man t D.

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00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: You know, never to go against a mother. Your own

1091
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: mother would say, not like that, but maybe. Yeah, hey Mark,

1092
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: next time you need GPS helped, try out Ways much

1093
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: better than Ways is superior. Yeah, and that's a free plug.

1094
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Pay us next time. Ways. Um, All right, Mark, we

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00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: gotta let you go, but thank you very much for

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00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: calling in. And you know, I have a safe journey home.

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00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully you'll Usually you bump into a offensive coordinator in

1098
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: the airport and you have long conversations and trade text

1099
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: messages in the future. Hopefully it happens again. I hope

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Speaker 1: so too. And guys, I miss you all. I'll see

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00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: you soon, miss too many. Hi, go help with the vacuuming.

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00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: Well he did leave Bury now that I think about it,

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00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: So you want to be hearing this anymore. But maybe

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00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: the ghost flattering picture of the hotel he was staying

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00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: that could be as well. All Yeah, we gotta go

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: to some HR training for Dan's imitation of TDS. I

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00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: that is I've heard mother speak. I've heard TD's mother speak.

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Speaker 1: That's the best I can do. The impression that that's

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Speaker 1: it for uh. Today's version of addition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Lindsey, thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: in than Yeah, it's always it's always a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: have Lindsay on. We'll be back. We have two more

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Speaker 1: shows this week to get to and then of course

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Speaker 1: next week I'll tease it again Fantasy Week Spectacular for

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. Also follow us uh subscribe

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Speaker 1: on iTunes and leave comments all that good stuff. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan hans Has signing off for Fiery Flannel, Were

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Speaker 1: and Lindsay Rhodes, the Mailman, the Boss TV and all

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Speaker 1: our friends behind the glass. But twesdaye Benz is the best.

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Speaker 1: She works with us and she comes in just for

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Speaker 1: the show. We appreciate her. This is my favorite song.