WEBVTT - What's Wright - Thunder ESCAPE Timberwolves, Knicks WILD comeback vs. Pacers, DELUSIONAL Eagles takes 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.760 Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three thirty four. 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.760 We are back on our regular schedule, and now is 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.280 also when I would remind you all if you could 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.040 to like, rate, subscribe, review, do all that stuff, because 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.000 that does not only help us out a ton, but 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.920 it also helps you guys out, because this time of year, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.520 sometimes we have varying schedules. You know when we're live, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.840 you know when the show's on the air. YouTube subscriptions 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.080 doing great. iTunes and Spotify could serve to do a 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.560 little bit better, So if you download us on both places, 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.199 be awesome. Also, next week taking the show on the 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.440 road kind of we're gonna do a show from Vegas. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.640 I don't really have any of those specifics locked in yet, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.760 and I told the producers about ninety seconds ago that 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.640 that was happening. But next Thursday we will be live 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.960 from the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas, doing 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.040 the show from there. Demands, how are. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.920 You pretty good? Pops? You doing good to see you. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.000 I'm good to see you as well. I realized when 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.880 I saw Demons, I was like, oh boy, I've not 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.200 actually spoken to Demonse since we signed off the pod 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.560 last Wednesday. Not the best parenting job by me there 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.360 probably should check in see how you're doing. But we 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.920 have had I was in Indy, which we'll get into. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.119 Both of your aunts are in town and staying with us. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.520 So there's a lot going on over here, a lot 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.440 going on in the sports world. And we know who's 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.559 gonna win the NBA Championship. So all that is coming 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.760 up on the show. Here's what missed the cut. Denver 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.680 officially promotes Dave Adalman to the head coach position. Tim 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:43.400 Shallomey sitting, that's a real fan going courtside to Indianapolis. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.800 I love that from him. And Alex Polow, my guy 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.880 wins the Indy five hundred. He's also a Chiefs guy. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.720 He's also you know, the racer of this generation. And 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.520 I gotta tell you the audience knows we brought in, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.480 you know, my goddaughter ci r Fidel to the f 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.840 one minute. I am not historically a motorsports guy. I 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.520 don't pretend to be a motorsports expert. I do, however, 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.680 and this isn't pretending. Know that if you give me 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.800 an assignment with enough lead time, I can learn pretty 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.519 damn fast. And once we found out we were going 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.600 to Indy. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna we're gonna 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.600 be interviewing people. We're gonna, you know, probably have Oh wait, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.679 this person wants to come on. So I got to 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.560 be prepared. So I went back to my roots of 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:35.240 when I was having to do postgame call in shows 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.400 for lacrosse. In college, we did postgame call in shows 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.760 for lacrosse for games that were road games that were 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.040 only on the radio, so you couldn't watch it, and 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.680 theoretically I didn't know the sport, and then I had 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.080 to take people's calls about what happened in the game. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.840 And so I learned lacrosse, and so I kind of 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.280 tried to flex that muscle again to learn IndyCar and 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.200 now I mean, I'm basically an adopted member of the 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.840 Andretti family. More on that later in the show, but 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.440 in the meantime, Demons, let's get to the game last night, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.440 which was one of the best games of the playoffs 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.560 and might have been the unofficial end of the playoffs. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:17.079 Go ahead. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.080 Yeah, so Minnesota had bounced back in Game three and 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:25.040 Okase responded with a win. Jada was cooking and looked 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.760 pretty tired out there. Yeah, so the Thunder took took 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.320 care of business. They're now of three to one. Like 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.000 you said before, do they now seem inevitable to win 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.080 the finals. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:36.280 Or this series? 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.480 I guess at the very least no, No to both. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:46.080 They listen and this isn't like a take that the 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.480 moment the Lakers got eliminated, I said, I think Oklahoma 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.880 City's gonna win the championship. That I thought the Lakers 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.280 were the only team that could beat them. Now maybe 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.040 that was wrong, maybe nobody could beat them. But I 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.000 have not been one of the people that has underrated 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.840 at Oklahoma City or that has thought their youth was 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.360 going to be a death knell for them. And we 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.160 now now as we sit here today, and this is 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:17.560 a team that is seventy nine and nine or eighteen 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:23.839 on the year, and a team that yesterday won a game. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:29.200 It was such a weird game yesterday because there are 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:34.200 a couple buckets of stats that if I give you, you're 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.919 gonna be like, oh, well, obviously team X one, And 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.880 then a couple of buckets of stats that if I 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.200 give you'd say, oh, obviously team why one. So the 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:49.920 first one for the Thunder they're big three combined for 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:59.800 ninety five points. Shay forty, JDub thirty four, Jet twenty one. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:06.560 Their big three combine for ninety five points. Meanwhile, the 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:11.720 three highest paid guys on Minnesota, well, I mean they 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.720 don't really have one of them's go Bear. That's not 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:18.440 fair because he's not a scorers. Minnesota's top two scorers, 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:22.840 Aunt and Julius combine for twenty one. You hear that 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:27.600 and you say, okay, well that's a thunder route. Thing 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.039 I can tell you on the flip side of that 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.960 is what if going into the game, I were to 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:38.239 tell you, hey, Okc's bench is gonna go I'm sorry, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:44.400 Minnesota's bench, pardon me, is going to go twelve of 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:52.279 eighteen from three and combine for an incomprehensible sixty four points. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.720 You're gonna get sixty four points off the bench. You 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.640 would say, okay, well that's going too clearly be maybe 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:06.240 not only a Timberwolf win, but maybe a Timberwolf route instead. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.719 Those two factors came together, the thunder Stars playing awesome, 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:17.280 the Timberwolves role players playing awesome, and it was a 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.159 classic game. I know that, like we've had so many 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.400 great games these playoffs that a game that one team 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.560 kind of leads throughout and then ends up winning doesn't 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.159 feel like that should qualify as a classic. But the 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.920 shot making and degree of difficulty from anyone and everyone 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.719 involved in this game except for Minnesota's two best players 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:50.960 is really a was a sight to behold. And the 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.159 reason that I said right off the top of the 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:58.520 show and when Demonte asked me that this series is 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.080 over and this season is over, and that's with respect 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.400 to the Pacers and the Knicks who will get to later, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:12.080 is OKC has now been on the ropes and has 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:18.200 now responded in such a way that I think this 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:24.560 counts as that extra step some people thought they needed 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.880 to take, Like, all right, you make the playoffs and 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.200 you get bounced in round two. Then you go on 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.200 a deep run like the Celtics did to the finals 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.240 and lose. Then you come back and win a championship, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.280 facing a Game seven against the best player in the 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:45.320 world and blowing them out, and then responding the very 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:51.240 next series by getting blown out like embarrassed. For the 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.560 first time all year. They had only had one twenty 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.000 point loss all season. It was to the Lakers. In 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:02.480 the regular season. They lose by forty it's their first 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.840 playoff loss as a group together by more than twelve points. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.080 And then the very. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.920 Agree they took their foot off the gas there in 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.920 game three, though, right think that was like that was 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.480 chalked up like if that was a situation high leverage 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.360 and they needed that game, probably wouldn't have lost by that. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:21.680 I'm just saying, totally agree. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.760 Okay, no, one hundred percent agree. But my point is, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.880 not only did they lose that game, they get blown 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:35.360 out ants feeling good. Because they get blown out, the 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.400 Timberwolves don't have to play you know they're and because 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.040 they're not as deep of a team in theory, they 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.480 don't have to play Aunt and Julius huge minutes. So 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.760 they should be able to come into Game four fresh 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.800 and feeling like, you know what we about to make 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:58.520 this a series and all the Timberwolves others played out 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:05.640 of their mind and the OKC Big three Flatley said, Nah, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:10.640 it doesn't matter. Shay, who will get more into later, 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:20.640 was absolutely brilliant. Shae was brilliant, And I obviously have 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:26.560 been vocal about the flopping and the Jabbroni stuff of 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.400 hooking the arms and all that stuff you can hold 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.160 two thoughts in your head at the same time. One 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:38.560 is the free throw merchant stuff is a fair criticism, 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.640 and I find it to be an unappealing brand of 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:49.439 basketball when he's doing that, while also believing even without 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:54.120 any of that stuff, he's a superstar. And last night 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.360 it was both. He was getting to the line. There 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:02.520 hasn't been as much flopping about by him since Game one, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:08.480 and but in addition to getting to the line, he 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:13.079 was getting to the basket. His mid range was on point, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.800 as it's been all year, and he just played an 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:25.280 outstanding A plus MVP level game. And then Jalen Williams 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.400 added his twenty four or thirty four on twenty four shots, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:36.240 and every time it felt like Minnesota had a chance 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:41.600 to grab some momentum, there was Chet Holmgrench, either hitting 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.800 a three or with a putback dunk or a big block. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.640 He was awesome. And so. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.480 I just you were nervous about Chet coming into this series. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:11:01.400 Too, absolutely, And I thought that the Julius piece of 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:07.080 this for the Timberwolves is pretty brutal, because he was 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.920 so good in Round one against the Lakers and so 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:16.120 good in Round two against the Warriors. He was so 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.920 good he did something that I didn't know was possible, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.640 which is force honesty out of Draymond Green, like, no, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.319 I got my ass kicked in that matchup like that, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:31.360 which he did. And then he was the only guy 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:37.600 on Minnesota to really show up in Game one, so 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.679 I was like, man, this he is just rewriting this 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:45.079 playoff narrative. And then in game two, in game four, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.280 he's a combined three of eighteen from the field and 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:55.400 eleven points total and just brutal. And so yeah, I 0:11:55.480 --> 0:12:01.000 thought that Julius versus Chet was going to strongly the Timberwolves, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.080 even though I picked Oklahoma City to win the series. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:08.240 That's not what happened to her at all. And while 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.360 I think we are, you know, I gave Danny a 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.960 hard time. Let me find the tweet I sent to 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.880 Danny Parkins. Either last night or this morning, I don't remember, 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.400 but Danny tweeted, if I can get my phone to work, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:30.560 something about uh about the runway? That what the heck? 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.160 This sucks? Twitter? Can I just say something Twitter sucks? 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:34.400 Now? 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:40.480 It doesn't. I can't even find my own tweets. Danny 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:46.000 tweeted about the thunder having basically the next ten years 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.360 here's what he wrote. I found it. I feel sorry 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.000 for all the self professed NBA fans who say they 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.880 hate SGA's game. The next ten years or so of 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.160 hoops is gonna be pretty miserable for them. He's gonna 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.679 be in a lot of big games. And so I 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:09.320 replied to him, giving SGA the next ten years feel strong. Listen, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.080 windows are never open as long as people think they 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.480 are going to be in the moment, and every team 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.920 that wins the championship, in the moment that they're winning 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.880 the championship, it feels like, well, they're just gonna keep 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.840 winning championships, I guess. And obviously right now it feels 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.560 that way with OKC. But it felt that way with 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.320 Boston twelve months ago, and it felt that way with 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.760 Denver twenty four months ago, And it felt that way 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.960 with Milwaukee forty eight months ago, and it felt that 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.559 way with the Lakers sixty months ago. The only team 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.840 that he didn't really feel like they were about to 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.800 reel off a bunch was the Warriors, because they had 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.200 already reeled off their bunch, like that was the end 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.240 mark rather than what it felt like was a beginning. Well, yeah, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.160 Toronto obviously, but that was if Quiet stayed. No, but 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.920 if Quiet stayed, maybe people would have thought they were 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:10.560 going to keep winning. And so I'm not I'm not 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.680 ready to talk down the road for OKAC because that 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.880 ownership group as a doesn't have a tendency of paying 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.880 the luxury tax. And I'm not sure. However, I know 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.680 they have a bunch of picks, and they have a 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.520 smart GM and all that stuff. What I am ready 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.640 to say is nobody's fucking beating them this year. And 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.800 it was there was a window where in that game 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:42.560 last night where it felt like, well, if Minnesota can, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.240 if they can win this game with Aunt and Julius 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.800 playing poorly, can they then win one of the next 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.120 two because Aunt and Julius go off, and then you're 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.800 in a game seven, and then you roll the dice. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.760 And even if they were to lose the game seven, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:09.680 then OKASE goes into the finals coming off back to 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.400 back seven game series and maybe they're a little bruised, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:19.160 a little battered, a little worn down. Instead, Okac's going 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:24.120 to end this tomorrow night, and they are not going 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.720 to demonte let their foot off the gas twice in 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:31.040 one series. They are critically going to be at home. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.560 Where what of the thunder done? Let me just look 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.520 at home this postseason. They beat Memphis by fifty one. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:46.600 They then beat Memphis by nineteen. They lost to Denver 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:53.760 in was that the game one against Denver? Yeah, that 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:59.040 was the Aaron Gordon game, the game winner, the game winner. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.520 So they lost to Denver. They then beat Denver by 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.680 forty three. They then beat Denver by seven. They then 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.720 beat Denver by thirty two. And now they have beaten 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:16.920 Minnesota by twenty six and by fifteen, and they face 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:23.640 another one. So they have multiple victories at home by 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.320 thirty plus and they have one loss and it was 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:29.800 a buzzer beating dunk. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.280 So it's been done. They could lose. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.200 If Minnesota goes over there and Julius Randall and a 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.400 cook and they turn it around, what do you think 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:42.080 the chances of them pulling away, you know, bringing it seven, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.720 winning the series on Minnesota. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.320 I think this is dead. I think this series ended 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:52.880 last night. I think that there is I think that 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:59.360 there is no no real way to convince yourself that 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.560 the Timberwolves have a chance to win two in a 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.080 row with one of them in Okac, much less three 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.920 in a row, with two of them in okac Their 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.560 moment was last night, their moment to make it so 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.639 we can get to a game seven without ever having 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.639 to win on the road and then see what the 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.920 hell happens. And I just give Oklahoma City a ton 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:31.000 of credit. Man. They are obviously, and we've talked about 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:38.160 it all year, and not historically great but contemporarily great defense. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:48.040 And they're young stars are all growing up in front 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:52.959 of us. And so the one other piece of caution 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:58.119 that I would give to folks who are going to 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:03.479 get out ahead of the dinas deep part of it is, Man, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.240 I don't know that any team's ever looked more poised 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.719 to go on forget a ten year run, a fifteen 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:20.120 year run in Oklahoma City in twenty twelve, when they 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:25.560 had Durant, Russ, and Harden all well under twenty five 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.760 years old. They might all been under twenty four years 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:34.640 old actually, and they were making their first finals and 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:40.200 that's their only finals. Like and it's a you can say, oh, well, 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.720 they traded Harden guys with this new CBA. I don't 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.600 know how. I have no idea what teams are and 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.280 aren't gonna stay the exact same year to year. What 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:54.159 I do know is the Thunder winning the championship, and 0:18:55.440 --> 0:19:00.640 they will be rightful champions. It will not be an 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:05.119 injury luck championship. It will not be ah look at 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.240 who they faced and root to it championship. It won't 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.800 be any of that. It's going to be from day 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.560 one of this season until the last day of the season, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.480 they were the best team. They had the guy who 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:25.879 had the best season, and they were the deepest and 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:34.199 damn near impossible to blow out, and they're going to 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.879 finish the year. So they were I do this. I 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:39.560 did this on the fly, and then I thought I 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.520 screwed it up. They were sixty eight and fourteen. They 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.960 have lost four times this postseason, so they are that's 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:52.840 twenty eighteen losses. They have won eleven times this postseason. Yes, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.800 I had it right. They're seventy nine and eighteen, and 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.159 I'm gonna go ahead and guess that they finished the 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:06.600 year eighty four and twenty. I think they lose two 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:12.480 more times the rest of the way and they go 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:17.360 into next year as big favorites, which again the defending 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.480 champ keeps going into the years the big favorites We'll 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.280 see how they do on that end. And I'm not 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:28.159 trying to put a period on this NBA season, but 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.640 to me, this NBA season ended last night, and that's 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:40.280 not a bad thing. That's not the it's well, it is. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:41.800 It is what it is. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.199 I know there's a lot of basketball to play, and 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.200 I'm still and I'm super excited for the rest of 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.439 the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals. To me, 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.880 will be whomever. It is a real David versus Goliath situation, 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.840 and you'll be excited to see, Hey, can something. Can 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:06.199 Halliburton or Brunson have just a holy shit, what just 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.919 happened moment? Can one of those guys like do a 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:17.080 Dirk Novitsky twenty eleven levitate above the game? 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Go to vicetv dot 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.679 com to find your cable channel. 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:57.719 All right there, I know you have a bunch of 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.359 follow ups here and then we can get to the 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:01.879 next topic. But go ahead to many. 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.480 So Aunt looks super gas last night, and this is 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.640 right around the time that he got gas last year. 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.159 Do you think that this is just who he is? 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:21.960 I don't. It is surprising to me that Aunt accepts 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:27.040 passivity the way he has at times, and his comments 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.960 after the game when he's like, listen, I don't think 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.359 I struggled. I made the right play again and again. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.639 And I guess you can make the argument. Listens teammates 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:42.000 wereritting shots. They scored one twenty six. He was still 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:49.199 busting his ass on defense. But when you're up against 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:55.119 the MVP Demanse and you undoubtedly feel like I'm better 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.760 than him. But listen, he's not better than Shay. But 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.240 I guarantee you Ant believes he's better than Check. Yeah, 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.680 like that, he has to, like, that's how he's wired. 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:11.520 Seeing him take two shots in the first half was shocking. Legitimately, 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:15.400 shocking in a half. His team was trailing the whole time. 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:17.800 It's not as if, well, you know what I mean, 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:22.320 everything's working great, whatever it is. And so he did 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:29.120 he said he ran out of gas in the last 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.480 year in the conference finals. But that was so different 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.960 because though I took that to be a physical and 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:42.600 a mental thing, because beating the defending champ in round 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:47.040 two is a bit of a that's a huge favorite, 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.440 is a bit of a championship in and of itself. 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:54.360 We are kind of seeing it happened to the Knicks. 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:59.960 The Knicks beat Boston and then exhaled, and by the 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.080 time they get their breath again, they're down two oh 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.600 to Indiana. Right, So I thought last year ant and 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:12.800 Minnesota have a shocking three two comeback, and then Game 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.520 seven comeback against Minnesota and then it's like, oh man, 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.600 we got another that we're only halfway to the goal. Dallas, 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.840 on the other hand, you know, was a pretty well 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:29.080 oiled machine at that point, having just beaten OKC and 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.480 they're down three to zero. They being Minnesota before they 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:39.280 realize it's a fight. This year that wasn't at at all. 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:45.080 Minnesota didn't even seem to really face any adversity in 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.600 round two or round one, and so I just think 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:54.000 this is part of ant growing up. But for those 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.840 of us that were like, hey, lead a team to 0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.000 the finals before you turn twenty five, that's a pretty 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.119 the exclusive list. He has a chance to join it. 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:08.040 That's now done that that you know, and so at 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.679 twenty three, just get better and better each year. But 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.080 he needs to find a way to be at his 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:21.639 best come late May, and that's yet to happen for him. Okay, 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.680 Uh so there's go ahead and we can talk rules 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:25.960 before he talks Shay and Ann. 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.240 Oh yeah, you think the team should be allowed to 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:29.920 foul up three as much as they want. 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.840 It might have made the game. It was a little 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:32.840 boring there at the end. 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:42.880 So okay, So I don't understand why teams or by 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:49.520 the league listen free advice. There are three very simple 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.520 rule changes that could be implemented in the offseason, and 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.840 there is close to zero downside for any of them. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.639 Rule one is the one I proposed on TV yesterday, 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:09.680 self proclaimed take of the year. It's an unimpeachably great take. 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:14.720 The league could institute it immediately. There's no downside to 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:19.679 it whatsoever. And it would fix this immediately. Which is 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.840 just like, every player on the court at any time 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.840 can call time out, and if you go like this, 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:32.320 the referee grant you a timeout. Any player on the 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:37.560 court at any time can do the whoo the challenge signal, 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.560 and the referee will grant that challenge. Okay, you have 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:46.040 a challenge, you're challenging it. And within a week, demons, 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:51.440 every player on every team would have been drilled by 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.040 the coaches. Don't You're not allowed. 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:54.200 To do that. 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.800 I was about to say that the coaches would not 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.200 ride with that one. It's like, it's just my choice 0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.640 if we're challenging it or not, you. 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:03.119 Know, correct, But it's also the coach's choice if we 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.879 call time out or not. But the players can call it, 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:12.520 and so it would no player would go rogue. Guys 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:16.919 would learn very quickly, Oh shit, that's binding. I better 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:22.440 not do that. And added bonus, let's just say there 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.399 is a oh use joker as an example, a really 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:30.159 smart veteran player. It's late in the game. He knows 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.760 they have challenges in timeouts left, and he knows that 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.520 ball did not go off me, and he looks over 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.280 at the bench and he's like, oh, man, the dude 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.960