WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Angela Rye

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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<v Speaker 1>episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to QLs Classic. My name is Quest Love, your host.

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<v Speaker 1>This particular episode of Quest Love Supreme is from twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>We did this on July twelfth. We got to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to Angela Rye.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, oftentimes we only get to see these micro

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<v Speaker 1>clips of her social media as a talking head for

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<v Speaker 1>CNN or maybe SNBC. But you know, she's a she's family,

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<v Speaker 1>she's friend of the show. And during this time period,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, we were like one year into that administration,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to get our way out

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of this stuff is timely, as far

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<v Speaker 2>as her entry into I guess being an freedom fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>If you will, so hope you enjoyed this episode. Angela. Right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's classic. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Suprema son Supremo, role called Supremo, Supremo, role called supremo,

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<v Speaker 3>some some supremo, role called Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really into Angelo Rise playlist Yeah, yeah, Chris loves playlist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Supreme Supremo, Supremo, some some Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is fante. Yeah, I get the props. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Angela's from Seattle. Yeah, like mix a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Supremo, cal Supremo Supremo call.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Sugar. Yeah, I don't get raucous. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now may I please join your black Hawks?

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<v Speaker 1>She is not leaving sign Supremo roll call.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm paid bill. Yeah, and how you doing? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't stand it no more. Yeah, collusion.

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<v Speaker 5>Supreme roll Supreme son Son.

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<v Speaker 1>Supremo role is not ready yeah for this roll call? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah that's best for all.

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<v Speaker 3>Roll cal Supremo, so Supreme roll call Suprema some Supremo role.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's time yeah for Angelo rhyme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Some try to fight it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well she won't be to die.

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<v Speaker 1>Come son son, don't.

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<v Speaker 8>Sup roll names a ry Yeah and I got bars yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sa twice already said she.

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<v Speaker 5>Supreme roll call Supreme up some Supreme roll call sub

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<v Speaker 5>bream up some supreme roll ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. As soon as I heard wrong, because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what was coming in really really crazier. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to mix a lot. We so you

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a little bit of b real and you

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Big Dad knees dancer had b real iron

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<v Speaker 1>on on bro Bro School Love School. Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you had school lover. Iis no, that was my mix

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in personal swell downe for Seattle. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode. I'm sorry, a very special What's

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<v Speaker 1>going Down episode? That's my that's my mama of quest

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<v Speaker 1>Love Supreme. Welcome ahead, Supreme, guys. How are you you're doing?

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<v Speaker 6>We ain't on an outfield or you know, on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Court, just sports. We run it out of sport. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is going to be a not a

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<v Speaker 1>tense episode, but a serious episode. Let me just take

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<v Speaker 1>all the fun out the room right now for fun? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fun got revolutionaries got to have fun anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't even get to do a second.

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<v Speaker 6>You want it right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You want that's one. You mess up? You mess up,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interest. Yeah. Welcome to my world anyway, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>in our in our special What's going Down episode of Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot the name of my.

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<v Speaker 7>Show, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 5>Supreme?

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<v Speaker 1>I love this woman so much that I forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>name of my own damn show. You know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>for the times that we live in, we've been spending

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this time nerding out with our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>music acts and you know, uh, learning about music and art.

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<v Speaker 1>We rarely do anything leaning towards politics, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be remiss if we weren't at least going to

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<v Speaker 1>have one general discussion about what's going down, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>the times we live in. And I can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>anyone better uh to sort of tour guide us through

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<v Speaker 1>this alternative reality we're in right now than our next guest,

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<v Speaker 1>uh lawyer, Uh exactly in the role of the of

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<v Speaker 1>Black Caucus. Are you the board member the.

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<v Speaker 8>The so I serve on two of the Affiliate Organization board.

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<v Speaker 8>So there's the CBC Pack that's a political action committee.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm on that board.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm also on the CBC Institute Board, and I was

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<v Speaker 8>the CBC executive director in General Council. But I hung

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<v Speaker 8>up my jersey sports moneypoor for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm great with sports. Yeah, because the Bill's going

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<v Speaker 1>to call me on on that.

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<v Speaker 10>Y on some elementarycome angel a ride to Court Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what was he saying? Now?

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<v Speaker 10>I was just gonna say, can you break down with the

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<v Speaker 10>black CAUs does because there are people who really don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>Sure, they're often they don't know, especially those that say,

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<v Speaker 8>where's the Congressional White Caucus, as if the rest of

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<v Speaker 8>the four hundred and thirty five members aren't white?

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<v Speaker 9>I digress.

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<v Speaker 8>So the Congressional Black Caucus is an entity that was

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<v Speaker 8>founded in nineteen seventy one. By then, I think it

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<v Speaker 8>was twelve members that were black in the House of Representatives,

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<v Speaker 8>and they established the organization so that there could be

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<v Speaker 8>a space where black people's issues were heard. They're known

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<v Speaker 8>as the Conscience of the Congress. And now they are

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<v Speaker 8>almost to fifty members. And of course there are two

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<v Speaker 8>senators in the United States Senate who also serve as

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<v Speaker 8>members of the Congressional Black Caucus. There are three black senators,

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<v Speaker 8>but one opted not to join, Tim Scott, don't you

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<v Speaker 8>write it down?

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<v Speaker 1>So can I assume that most of the members of

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<v Speaker 1>the CBC are Democrat?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, there is one current member of the CBC who's Republican.

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<v Speaker 8>Her name is Mia Love. She is from Utah. My

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<v Speaker 8>aunt that's not your aunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her last name was Love. So just so that

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<v Speaker 1>all loves are related.

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<v Speaker 8>My dad normally says maybe the same plantation. That's what

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<v Speaker 8>he says today, just to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what he.

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<v Speaker 1>Says the same plantation. Yeah, has she attended meetings or.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, she has been active on some issues. She definitely

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<v Speaker 8>divergent on others, but she's been active on some issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. So not why because I appreciate your your

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<v Speaker 1>grassroots involvement and you using elbow grease and getting down

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<v Speaker 1>and dirty, But why would you choose this particular field?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you went to law school. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could have just.

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<v Speaker 9>Done some other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean what what truly made you? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>following the family business or I mean in your father's

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<v Speaker 1>footsteps as far as the community, like what most lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>I know are thinking in terms of oh, successful by

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<v Speaker 1>my own law firm, being a partner and that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. So should we know who her father is?

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<v Speaker 8>His name is Eddie Ryder Jr. He's an activist in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's actually a really interesting story. What I'll tell

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<v Speaker 8>you is there were two other paths that I thought

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<v Speaker 8>I would choose before I chose politics. I grew up

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<v Speaker 8>in a house with a dad who's an activist, and

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<v Speaker 8>I thought he was always on the opposite side of

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<v Speaker 8>elected politics. So I hated it growing up because I

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<v Speaker 8>couldn't understand why they didn't understand why, you know, why

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<v Speaker 8>he was pressing pressing for, you know, or a part

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<v Speaker 8>of the parts anti apartside movements, or you know, getting

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<v Speaker 8>involved with ensuring that subcontractors and contractors of color had

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<v Speaker 8>an equal share of the pie. I didn't understand why

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<v Speaker 8>that was even an issue, right, And so growing up

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<v Speaker 8>with him, I hated politics because they were never on

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<v Speaker 8>his side. And it wasn't until I was in my

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<v Speaker 8>last year, my fall semester of law school. I wanted

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<v Speaker 8>to do an internship in Los Angeles and Maxine Waters

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<v Speaker 8>was someone I respected a lot, and so I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 8>if I can learn from her, you know, maybe this

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<v Speaker 8>will be good. But I'm gonna go so that I

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<v Speaker 8>could be a trial attorney like Johnny Coppran. I just

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<v Speaker 8>want to get an offer at the Cochran firm. And

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<v Speaker 8>before that, I wanted to be a sports entertainent layer.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'll save that story for another day. It's really

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<v Speaker 8>interesting how that happened or didn't happen. But in my

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<v Speaker 8>I did my internship and like fell in love with

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<v Speaker 8>the bridge between activism and politics, and there's no better

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<v Speaker 8>bridge for that than Maxine Waters. I started calling her

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<v Speaker 8>the Nation's congresswoman then. That was in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 8>two thousand and five, and just loved working with her,

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<v Speaker 8>loved how she made everything work together for us, regardless

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<v Speaker 8>of if we lived in her district or not. And

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<v Speaker 8>I did get an offer from the Cochran firm, like

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<v Speaker 8>had a mentor Shawn Chapman Holly shout out to Shaun

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<v Speaker 8>Chapman Holly, who's still a good friend. Had an offer

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<v Speaker 8>with the firm, and then he died damn. And I

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<v Speaker 8>was like, oh lord, maybe this wasn't the path. So

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<v Speaker 8>at my the National Black Lost In Association.

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<v Speaker 7>He died with your thousand and five Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>At the convention, I was getting ready to introduce Congressman Waters,

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<v Speaker 8>who came to our convention.

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<v Speaker 9>I was like, what am I gonna do now?

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<v Speaker 8>Johnny Conran died and She's like, I told you to

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<v Speaker 8>go to the hell. So I was like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 8>y'all think about that now. And that's really the short

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<v Speaker 8>version of how that happened. But she's never been wrong,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm so happy to see millennials woke about her now.

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<v Speaker 8>But she been doing this the nation's congresswoman. Queen magazine's

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<v Speaker 8>been doing this so at her back to it all

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<v Speaker 8>makes sense now to why you had her back even

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<v Speaker 8>more when that whold stupid Bill o'reiley.

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<v Speaker 9>I think I would have had any results going through that.

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<v Speaker 9>That was stupid.

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<v Speaker 8>She's on the floor of the United States House of

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<v Speaker 8>Representatives talking about what patriotism in the era of Trump

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<v Speaker 8>really means, like it's not, you know, pledging blind allegiance

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<v Speaker 8>to some concept. It's about standing up for what we

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<v Speaker 8>know to be truthful and righteous. And for her to

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<v Speaker 8>be talking about that and he's talking about it, damn

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<v Speaker 8>James brownwig.

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<v Speaker 9>It took me to send me to a place it's dismissive. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>among other things. Oh yeah, a lot of shit DISSI

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<v Speaker 9>of the yes, that was very kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of So do you I mean, obviously, I know it's overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>but just watching you in action, of course, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the age of social media, a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with you as as far as your your clips

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet, usually going at people well and and

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully so whenever facts are are are sprouted out. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing like when I when I watch you

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<v Speaker 1>go against two three four people at a time, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's baffling to me. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's the equivalent of someone asking, well, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you how do you coordinate your kick drum and

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<v Speaker 1>your high had foot and your left hand and your

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<v Speaker 1>right hand and talk to people?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, how are you not exhausted?

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't say I wasn't exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not say that, But I mean, have I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as I read the the era that we live in now,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, of course, I guess, the alternative facts era

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<v Speaker 1>in which things are said with such a straight face.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, in general, a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>have been programmed to believe that if any information comes

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<v Speaker 1>from someone wearing a suit and spoken in the King's English,

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<v Speaker 1>then why should they lie to me? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why would they want to lie to me? And usually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of benefits of doubts are given,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're seeing straight up false information. How I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's like the equivalent of you playing a

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<v Speaker 1>tennis match with five people on the other side. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you I mean, just in this era, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you agreed to do pundent remarks on shows, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you grasp your information because you have to know

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<v Speaker 1>what they stand for and how they come. Like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't want to train you? Is it?

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<v Speaker 8>No, I've never had media training, but I will say

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<v Speaker 8>that I did get Crossfire training. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 8>you all remember Crossfired, like the CNN show back in

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<v Speaker 8>the day when it was all the old white dudes

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<v Speaker 8>at the table.

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<v Speaker 9>Just growing up with my dad.

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<v Speaker 8>Now he doesn't lie, but we don't always agree on

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<v Speaker 8>the means to an end goal. So growing up like

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<v Speaker 8>just debating him or you know, talking to my friends,

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<v Speaker 8>or debating race issues, like I went to a majority

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<v Speaker 8>white high school, you know, started a black student union,

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<v Speaker 8>and so you get used to having to explain to

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<v Speaker 8>people your perspective because it's not the majority view. So

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<v Speaker 8>whether or not this is this may be an alternate universe,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's still not the majority view on the panel.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's just debating. The problem I have, and I think.

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<v Speaker 8>When people see me get really upset is when I

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<v Speaker 8>remember the responsibility that we have to give people factual information.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think the frustration that I have, if nothing

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<v Speaker 8>else right now, is being able to speak to people

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<v Speaker 8>in their homes on their TV screens is an awesome privilege,

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<v Speaker 8>and we have an obligation to give them information they

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<v Speaker 8>can rely upon, and so I'll normally lose it, especially

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<v Speaker 8>on like black networks, like on TV one, if I'm

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<v Speaker 8>on Rolling show and somebody's lying, I flip out, like

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<v Speaker 8>there's been you know, jiff or gift depending on how

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<v Speaker 8>you said jiffable moments just from that, like please don't

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<v Speaker 8>come here and lie to our folks. Not that folks

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<v Speaker 8>should be lied to unseen in either, but I just

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<v Speaker 8>think that there's a different type of responsibility and even

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<v Speaker 8>with seeing it, and I think it is really hard

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<v Speaker 8>because I remember one of the debates during the general election,

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<v Speaker 8>the Debate Commission decided that the moderator did not have

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<v Speaker 8>an obligation to fact check the candidates, and I lost it.

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<v Speaker 9>I was like, what do you mean, Like, that's your only.

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<v Speaker 8>Responsibility besides asking the questions like you have one job

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<v Speaker 8>or two? You know one a in one, b like

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<v Speaker 8>all in one, but you have something what do you

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<v Speaker 8>mean Like, of course you have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 8>they're being like what are you debating? Then if facts

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<v Speaker 8>become a debatable point and not just the perspectives on

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<v Speaker 8>those facts, that is a new challenge, and so I do.

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<v Speaker 8>I find it immensely frustrating because I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 8>someone could be deemed credible at all if they're not

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<v Speaker 8>relying on the same principle of truth. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 8>just it's maddening. It really, it really really is. And

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<v Speaker 8>so to me, I just think that the energy I

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<v Speaker 8>take into those spaces is if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 8>be told the truth from anyone else, you're going to

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<v Speaker 8>hear it from me. And if I'm ever if I

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<v Speaker 8>ever misspeak on something, if a stat is wrong, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>if I said a word wrong, I'll fact check it

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<v Speaker 8>later on Twitter. But I'm not gonna lie to people.

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<v Speaker 8>Intentionally deceiving them like that is just wrong. And that's

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<v Speaker 8>just kind of where I draw the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as of this particular taping. Right now, the healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>situation is in the hands of the Senate, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of them. I guess at one point

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter there were at least three or four of

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<v Speaker 1>them that tweeted out or gave interviews sort of to

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<v Speaker 1>the tune of you know, you're saying that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty two million people might lose their insurance or

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<v Speaker 1>and this several hundred thousand might die if this law

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<v Speaker 1>goes and you know that was that was not a

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<v Speaker 1>good conversation point to sway them the other way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is for those? Because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends who are so overwhelmed with what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on that now my friends are at the point where

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<v Speaker 1>they're just so not even past the point of indifference,

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<v Speaker 1>but just so overwhelmed that they don't watch the news

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And these are the ones who are generally

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<v Speaker 1>on my side of the fence. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't sleep at night unless I at least watch an

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<v Speaker 1>hour or two of at least Rachel's show or someone

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that's going to give me straight up facts.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you how do we reignite uh people

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<v Speaker 1>or a community of people that just feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's no use? Yeah, no use? I started. God, have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys heard of a handmaid Handmaid's Tale?

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't watched it yet? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you watched it?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched it, but I know it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I heard the future really sad?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you yeah, if you think that like a

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<v Speaker 1>House of Cards or you know, whatever is being depicted

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<v Speaker 1>now in television as don't hamming. It almost feels like

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<v Speaker 1>this is that's where it's going to go to. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I checked that. I haven't even watched. I gave up

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<v Speaker 1>on House of Cards, like I just because.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>Right. Yeah, I don't know how they did that.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I l like weight blame House of Cards?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually right, all of it inic.

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<v Speaker 7>Not just.

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<v Speaker 8>I need to find somebody to blame because this makes

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<v Speaker 8>no senseides besides old lad like I just I gotta

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, don't happen.

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<v Speaker 6>On the hills of what Amra said.

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<v Speaker 10>And on that note, how do you prioritize the issues

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<v Speaker 10>that should you should be most caring about? Because yes,

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<v Speaker 10>health care is the issue right now, but there are

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<v Speaker 10>numerous issues that you know, our president right now and

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<v Speaker 10>his Congress are about to fuck up life with.

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<v Speaker 6>So how do you do that, Angela?

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<v Speaker 8>How do you prioritize so first that y'all's president, that's

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<v Speaker 8>not so No. So I think that that's a really

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<v Speaker 8>really good question. And what I appreciate about it is

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<v Speaker 8>I get so frustrated with whether they're elected officials, they

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<v Speaker 8>are sitting members of Congress right now who will say, well,

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<v Speaker 8>we don't need to be talking about Russia because what

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<v Speaker 8>people really want to know about is their healthcare. What

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<v Speaker 8>people really want to know about is you know where

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<v Speaker 8>the next job is going to come from the economy.

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<v Speaker 8>But here's that's right, and if so, if we're honest,

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<v Speaker 8>every single day, all of us are responsible for balancing

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<v Speaker 8>something mer we were talking about your time earlier, like

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<v Speaker 8>we're responsible for balancing some things. We are people who

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<v Speaker 8>can walk into gum at the same time and be okay.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's actually okay for us to try to get

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<v Speaker 8>to the bottom of what happened with Russia and how

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<v Speaker 8>they ended up in several you know polls, you know, precincts,

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<v Speaker 8>messing with stuff. You know, that's important for us to

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<v Speaker 8>understand because over time, if if countries, if entities can

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<v Speaker 8>continue to uh interrupt and disrupt our democracy the ways

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<v Speaker 8>in which we engage in the electoral process, people are

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<v Speaker 8>going to become disillusioned with that. That is very very

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<v Speaker 8>very dangerous. That's exactly right. That means a select you

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<v Speaker 8>are picking your your leaders. And what happens is this

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<v Speaker 8>healthcare bill to bring this back full circle, which is

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<v Speaker 8>you know, very toxic. It is a you know it's

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<v Speaker 8>it's a tax cut for billionaires. You know, it is

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<v Speaker 8>a way of One of the Senate compromises that came about.

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<v Speaker 9>Yesterday was okay, well we'll just uh.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll reinstitute the mandatory health care you have to sign

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<v Speaker 8>up mandatorily. But what we're going to do is if

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lapse in your health care, then there's gonna

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<v Speaker 8>be a six month window for you to get healthcare. Again,

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<v Speaker 8>what happens if something happens to you six in those

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<v Speaker 8>six months and you can't afford to pay for health

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<v Speaker 8>care out of pocket, that's not a compromise. And if

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<v Speaker 8>it's a compromise, who is it on the backs of?

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<v Speaker 8>And those are folks who normally look like us, if

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<v Speaker 8>they're underserved and marginalized communities, black and brown communities.

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<v Speaker 9>We have to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 8>And if so, if there's nothing else that I hope

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<v Speaker 8>comes out of this treacherous, dangerous, awful time, it is

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<v Speaker 8>that I hope we really lies that these people are

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<v Speaker 8>working for us. And I use this analogy on a

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<v Speaker 8>panel the other day. There's not a single one of

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<v Speaker 8>us who, if we are employing people, just are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna pay you. You go and do whatever and

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<v Speaker 8>never check in. There's a team call, there's a team meeting,

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<v Speaker 8>there's an agenda, there's some type of metrics for accountability

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<v Speaker 8>where they have to check in with us. We pay

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<v Speaker 8>these people, They owe us answers, they owe us to

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<v Speaker 8>do the right thing. I think it's town halls, and

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<v Speaker 8>the town halls aren't even enough. And people are starting

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<v Speaker 8>to show up town halls, but even that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 8>We need to be checking them on what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 8>What they're doing impacts us more in some instances than

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<v Speaker 8>the employees that we that we that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>So can I ask you, and I know as a

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer that you're not supposed to speculate, but with the

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<v Speaker 1>Russia issue, break it down to me, Like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>six year old, why don't we go to show At first,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like eight six, eight, let me go six

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<v Speaker 1>and six. Just say collusion a lot? What is your

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<v Speaker 1>belief And you're you're connected to a lot of those,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in politics that we're not getting.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your belief on what happened? Now? What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the narrative is, especially in light of uh Trump

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<v Speaker 1>even slightly admitting that there was. I was shocked that

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<v Speaker 1>he even admitted about collusion or you know, Russ's involvement,

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<v Speaker 1>because before it's just straight up denial, like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they're doing China could be doing, not us.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is I believe that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>position himself in terms of if it did happen, I

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<v Speaker 1>know nothing about it. I have no clue. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your belief because now I'm even hearing theories of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Russia paid off a lot of members in Senate, the

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<v Speaker 1>devil in Congress. No, how far does this stretch?

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't I don't want to speculate, but here's

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<v Speaker 8>what I would Here's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>How safe can you go to the deep waters? Explained

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<v Speaker 1>to us what I.

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<v Speaker 8>Think I can go safe because I have a security clearance,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's not active since I left the Homeland Security Committee,

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm good. I'm not relying on any actionable intelligence. Russia, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>because they're gonna be trying to hack somebody really did

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<v Speaker 8>in real life they hacked into my Amtrak thing.

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<v Speaker 9>But I will talk about that another time.

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<v Speaker 10>No, we're going to talk about that at some point

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<v Speaker 10>to hear because I want to know how our pro.

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<v Speaker 9>Time mail account.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, what email?

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<v Speaker 9>I have a PROTI but that's not mine. Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 9>We'll talk about we.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to a car home anyway.

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<v Speaker 9>So here's what I would ask.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that it's very important that, of course there

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<v Speaker 8>is this special prosecutor that was appointed, but there also

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<v Speaker 8>should be ongoing investigations on the part of the House,

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<v Speaker 8>in the Senate, those are happening. Why isn't there a

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<v Speaker 8>special independent commission stood up to look into this? If

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<v Speaker 8>we know that potentially members are compromised, or potentially they

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<v Speaker 8>can be blinded by their own political beliefs, why not

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<v Speaker 8>stand up in independent commissions to get.

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<v Speaker 9>To the bottom of the following one?

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<v Speaker 8>Why would Donald Trump not release his tax returns even

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<v Speaker 8>during the campaign. I think that if we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>have a transparent government, it needs to start from the

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<v Speaker 8>very beginning, so from the outset right. Problems began to

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<v Speaker 8>percolate during the campaign, So release the tax returns, really

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<v Speaker 8>look in at them to see if there's any debts

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<v Speaker 8>oh to Russia or any other foreign entities for that

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<v Speaker 8>matter that may have close ties to Russia. I think

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<v Speaker 8>the second thing to understand is who are all the players,

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<v Speaker 8>both from the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team,

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<v Speaker 8>who had any active involvement with Russian officials, Russian allies,

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<v Speaker 8>Russian businessmen, going from Paul Mannifort to Mike Pence. The

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 8>reason why Mike Pence recently had to lawyer up is

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<v Speaker 8>because he oversaw the entire transition team.

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<v Speaker 9>For those of you that don't know what a transition team.

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<v Speaker 8>Is, that is literally the body that is created to

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<v Speaker 8>transition from one presidential administration to another. So right after

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<v Speaker 8>the campaign they stand that up. I think the third

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<v Speaker 8>thing is understanding whether or not there were any past

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<v Speaker 8>dealings with Russia from a business standpoint or a personal standpoint.

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<v Speaker 8>There were a couple of things that Donald Trump did

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<v Speaker 8>on the campaign trail that should cause alarm. One, he

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<v Speaker 8>encouraged them to hack into Hillary Clinton's emails that nobody

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<v Speaker 8>could find at a press conference, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 8>this is a secret. And I can't remember the second

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<v Speaker 8>thing because it's been that kind of day.

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<v Speaker 9>I know it.

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<v Speaker 8>Else, there was another point, and actually this wasn't during

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<v Speaker 8>the campaign, but there was another point where he talked

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 8>about No, he actually did this on the debate stage

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<v Speaker 8>as well.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 9>He talked about he would probably.

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<v Speaker 8>Get along very well with Vladimir Putin, so sending some

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<v Speaker 8>type of signal, and I don't know what that signaling was,

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<v Speaker 8>but I think shortly thereafter right there was this, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>from FBI Director Comy, there's a new investigation happening into

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<v Speaker 8>Hillary Clinton's emails.

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<v Speaker 9>That's two weeks before the election.

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<v Speaker 8>Why did FBI Director Comy feel like he needed to

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<v Speaker 8>do that if he originally thought that the actions taken

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<v Speaker 8>by Loretta Lynch were a bridge too far just by

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<v Speaker 8>sitting on the tarmac with Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 9>So there are all of these questions that are very fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, my guess is maybe he was being blackmailed

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe and.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't want to that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what your questions are.

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<v Speaker 10>But do y'all know that today I'm sorry, I watched

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<v Speaker 10>the news today said his approval rating in Russia is

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<v Speaker 10>like forty four percent here and Russia and I forget

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 10>the other country, but it's both not our friends.

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<v Speaker 6>But I just thought that was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 11>That's your approval rating here among us, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the fuzzy Mike, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, who.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry believe.

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<v Speaker 8>But no, I just think that there are a number

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 8>of questions, and I think that what we could urge

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 8>the listeners, the American people to do is until those

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 8>baseline questions are answered, Like you just have to keep

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<v Speaker 8>pressing to ensure that we get to the bottom of

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 8>those truths. They're just too important and the answers could

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 8>be tremendously detrimental to the democracy. If we know there

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<v Speaker 8>was interference in the election, what motivated that interference?

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 9>Why wouldrush to.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 8>Choose to interfere in this particular election when we know

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<v Speaker 8>from uh, from from intelligence that I think has now

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<v Speaker 8>been shared that Russia did not like Hillary Clinton, right,

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<v Speaker 8>So I just I think there are so many problems

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.719
<v Speaker 8>with this. It's it truly is a movie. Like as

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<v Speaker 8>soon as he's done, hopefully in one more year, because

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<v Speaker 8>he'll get impeached, that's my prayer.

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 6>You don't want that. But because if he gets impeached,

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 6>then we get pissed.

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<v Speaker 8>I think because he lawyered up because whatever was happening

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<v Speaker 8>with Mike Flynn, he had to know about it at

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 8>the transition. So then we have Paul Ryan, who I

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 8>still prefer because he's had he can he can spell

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<v Speaker 8>right on a tweet.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, and I and I don't like Paul Ryan.

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<v Speaker 8>But what I will tell you is someone who came

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<v Speaker 8>from the Hill at a time when Republicans and Democrats

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 8>could at least talk to each other and find some

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 8>type of common ground, find some way to negotiate. I

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 8>would prefer someone who's got some type of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ has to Yes.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me tell you how bad it is. I want

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<v Speaker 8>to take a selfie with George W.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 9>Bush. That's how.

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<v Speaker 6>They make the Super.

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<v Speaker 8>Bowl Like, oh, but you know what, there's something to

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 8>that too, because if we think about what happened in

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 8>two thousand with that Florida recount, it all really started there.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 8>You cannot continue to rob people of their electoral power.

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<v Speaker 8>You can't continue to say one person, one vote, And

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<v Speaker 8>there's this electoral college system that frankly is rooted in

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<v Speaker 8>slavery and think that over time people are going to

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 8>be fine with that. We also, on the other hand,

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 8>can't be lulled to sleep by that. Like, if a

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 8>system doesn't work for us, and it is a democracy,

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<v Speaker 8>we need to change it.

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<v Speaker 6>But which call do you make?

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<v Speaker 10>It's like you need to change that, No, it's not

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 10>just which there are all of them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when you build a nation on racism and oppression,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 8>nothing is working.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are effective especially in terms of how easy

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<v Speaker 1>it is to hack? Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, what happened to Anonymous? I heard Anonymous?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they alive?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? I almost feel as though what was anonymous Anonymous

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>was like they were like a group of hackers, hackers

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that were kind of on our side. They were like

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the occupied Wall Street of hackers.

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, but I heard they got infiltrated by the

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>fares though, like the robot.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean, or maybe Vladimiritu.

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not gonna say. But what would in twenty seventeen,

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>what are effective voting options?

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<v Speaker 6>If no electoral college, if we don't have it, well.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>What would the idea scenario of voting be for the

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>times we live in now?

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<v Speaker 6>Popular vote?

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 8>So no, I think popular vote would be ideal. But

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 8>I think there's a middle road, and that would be

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<v Speaker 8>proportional representation in the electoral college. It shouldn't be winner

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 8>take all. That's not a one person, one vote strategy.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:01.719
<v Speaker 8>And there's a nonprofit that's been pushing legislation through state legislatures.

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 8>You know that you all know that's one of the

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 8>ways that you can change the constitution, and the legislation

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 8>is just is very simple.

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<v Speaker 10>It's just did not know that. I'm not gonna lie

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 10>because somebody out there is listening. They're like, I don't know, No,

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 10>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, that's good, look up more information on the internet.

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 8>But basically there's all not for you. I'm just saying

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 8>I'm not to get in all that. It doesn't even

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 8>I'll tell you when.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that a big words, just like, wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>any any information that you think might be a little

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>too lengthy, whatever, just say it. Okay, trust we got time.

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<v Speaker 9>So No, I just think.

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<v Speaker 11>Is down to.

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<v Speaker 9>She was doing it for the people. I did it

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<v Speaker 9>by the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think that what they've done is very good

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 8>because they're pushing these measures through state legislatures that say,

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 8>proportional representation is how we should be utilizing the electoral college.

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<v Speaker 8>It shouldn't be that if you won this state by

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<v Speaker 8>fifty one percent, you get all of the electoral college.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 8>It doesn't it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Transfer question, how does he actually get impeached? I feel like,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 4>how much crazy? Shi it has to go on over

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 4>the next year, you would hope for him actually to

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 4>get impeached.

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<v Speaker 8>Can I just say that if this was Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 8>he would have been impeached.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, would goddamn ticket.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, when you when you said when you were arguing

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 10>with that dude, did you talk to about being a

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 10>bigger or whatever you were like if you were like

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 10>if Obama had five baby mamas and Obama had did

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 10>on grabed chicks coo cheese, white chicks, coo cheese, like

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 10>this would never ever, That's just that, that's just the

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 10>just siritated.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, but get peached. Yeah, I'm sorry, Fine, but.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Someone will have to lose their life. But I don't even.

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 12>Shot somebody on Yeah, the video the p videos got

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 12>a surface.

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<v Speaker 9>Kelly from Podunk.

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<v Speaker 8>They will be like, well, I wish you would have

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 8>paid read what.

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Is the what is the process of impeachment? Like do

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>you know that if you can't just break it down?

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's so that's not a breakdownable thing. But I'll try.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 8>I'll try. I think I think one of the one

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 8>of the things that's immediately before us is what's happening

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 8>with the special prosecutor. So if the president were to

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 8>be fine to have broken the law, that's something that's impeachable.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 8>We still need the Congress to act on that. And

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 8>I think the challenge for us is in normal times,

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 8>Republicans and Democrats could lay party aside to do the

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 8>right thing.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>So is Congress just turning a blind eye because they

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want they don't want the stain of it's gonna

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>make Republicans look bad and will never be trusted.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 8>In one example all of that, Paul Ryan said the

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 8>other day, well, you know he's new, Yeah, what are

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 8>you talking about?

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 9>Willis like anyway.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 8>So the point is that there are several things that

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 8>could be deemed impeachable offenses. And if he were to

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 8>have found to be found to have obstructed justice with

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 8>FBI director come or something else surfaces, that's an impeachable offense.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 8>I think Democrats would begin to really hunker down on

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 8>calling for his impeachment and Republicans that have to make

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 8>a game time decision about doing the right thing, and

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 8>right now that's been tough. Like even for example, John McCain,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.240
<v Speaker 8>who's normally deemed maverick, decided to take on Kamala Harrison

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 8>in the middle of her questions instead of what that.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know that was just that was not just

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 4>what there was racist. It was all the in a row,

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 4>like however you can do.

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 8>That is what Donald Trump is in essence, though, isn't

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah every day on Twitter talking about Barack Obama colluding

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 8>with the Russians instead of the.

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Fact with perfect grammar that time.

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 8>When he said unprecedented though, yeah, not precedented.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't ever misunderstand. That's my intelligence.

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>It was Mary.

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 6>Can we not throw Mary Ato?

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I love Mary?

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 9>Because kind did her wrong day.

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't talk about it back the other day though? Was

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that new or old?

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 9>That was that's new?

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 6>That's b e t.

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 8>The BT Awards, trying to steal her.

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>He went under her Instagram. He's like, yeah, because I

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>praised the album.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh well yeah, and but yeah, he was like, yeah,

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why you chose.

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 9>Are you doing? We should talk?

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 8>Boy?

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 9>Good night?

0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 6>You missing the fame? Boo, you're missing it?

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 8>No, he wants that bigger alimony check anyway, Donald Trump.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that so uh well. At least another question

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is I heard that perhaps a movement or a migration

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>to Red States or red territories might be in order,

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>but well that really for instance, what happened in Georgia,

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>uh with the with the good question is that will

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that be an effective solution?

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, more democrats movies, some of us have to yeah,

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>move to going back to Indiana.

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 9>You know, here's the thing.

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 8>What frustrates me is it doesn't even require mass migration,

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 8>Like we have enough people. There are over five hundred

0:37:54.520 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 8>thousand unregistered black folks in Georgia, unregistered voters. Yeah, we

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 8>could change an election with five hundred thousand unregistered voters.

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 6>How do you think that is?

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 9>I think that people.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 8>Feel, like rightfully so that over time, democracy for everyone

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 8>else has not been democracy for us. That like we

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 8>just talked about a system of racism and oppression, doesn't

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 8>serve them, a police department that shoots and kills.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 9>Rather than protects and serves.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 8>There's so many reasons why people don't feel like the

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 8>system has worked for them.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 9>Nevertheless, it's the system we have.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 8>You know, until we work to perfect it, it's gonna

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 8>be the same broken mess. And so we're in, I

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 8>think a very dangerous cycle where we say, well, it

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 8>hasn't worked for us, so I'm not gonna go work

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 8>for it, but it's never gonna work for us unless

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 8>we work for it. We have to fix it. And

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 8>some of that change comes internally, Like you know, people

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 8>are always like, oh, you should run for office, you know,

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 8>but I'm like, that's not my calling. I'm happy to

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 8>help other people figure out how to be equipped to

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 8>run and all of that. But people also have to

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 8>lean into that idea, and so often we don't and don't.

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 10>Arnt you involved with a couple of packs that are

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 10>raising young African American like politicians.

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 8>One of my favorite packs right now is Collective Pack

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.439
<v Speaker 8>founded by two friends, Stephanie Brown James and Quinton James,

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 8>and they're doing marvelous work. They just have their first

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 8>training of African American young folks who want to run

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 8>for office at Howard University last week.

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 9>Doing great work, doing great work, And.

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 8>So yes, I thought, those are some of the ways

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 8>that we can get back with our time, our talent,

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 8>and our treasure.

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.280
<v Speaker 9>Another church analogy.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Break down exactly what a pack is and what it does.

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 8>Sure, a political action committee is an entity that is

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 8>charged with raising money and it's not tied to any

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 8>specific campaign per se. There are some entities that are

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 8>you know, direct to candidate or their leadership packs.

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 9>But a pack is an.

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 8>Entity that you stand up to raise money, to help

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 8>train people up to endorse candidates.

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>But what's it really used for?

0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 9>What do you mean?

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, not that's what it's supposed to be. But how

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>is it being I wanted people to know how it's

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>being abused?

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, well in some instances, Uh, there are a

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 8>number of.

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 9>Packs that are steed up, especially super PACs.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 8>That are just used to kind of farm out ads, advertisements,

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 8>political ads.

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 10>Brothers, a lot of people like the Koch brothers and

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 10>their impacts and stuff, and well.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 8>And even if it's not affiliated with the Kochs, there

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 8>are entities on the Democratic side of the that use.

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 9>Frankly, just to be competitive.

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 8>This Georgia race cost fifty million dollars, you know, and

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 8>a lot of times.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Are there power brokers and Democrats because besides Bill Bill

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>mar there I say it, he gives this obligatory two

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>million a year in Spielberg and Harvey Woods, Harvey Weinstein

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>does his little five million, like where are our Cooke brothers?

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 8>You know, the Moss is one. What's the other guy's named?

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 8>This and involved in kind of green energy. I can't

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 8>think of his name right now, but there are there

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:05.959
<v Speaker 8>are some, and I.

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Didn't know that everyone looked like a.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 8>Definitely, they're definitely more on the Republican side of the aisle.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 8>But the other problem that we have is that too

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 8>often money spent in races or even with political action

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 8>committees are used on vendors, and they're vendors who don't

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 8>know how to reach We talked about that five hundred thousand.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 9>Cohort in Georgia.

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 8>If you're hiring all white vendors, all white male vendors

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 8>who all work together on the same campaign, you're not

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 8>reaching a new audience. You're reaching the same people. That's

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 8>why you can't win. When you look at the candidate

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 8>recruitment strategy, whether it's at the D Triple C, which

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 8>is the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, there's a Citate version

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 8>of that. You know, there's the Democratic Governors Association, you're

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 8>not looking at black and brown and Asian candidates who

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 8>can run not just in congressional districts but also statewide.

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 8>I have a good friend of mine who's running for

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 8>governor in Florida, Andrew Gillam who is the mayor of

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 8>tallahassee right now on the leaked email from Hillary Clinton's campaign,

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 8>was on the on the short list for a potential

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 8>VP pick. It's being slept on right now by DGA

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 8>and others. You know, And this is a young black

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.320
<v Speaker 8>guy that's doing things completely different.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 6>Does he have a chance, I mean Florida, he does

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 6>have a chance.

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 8>He raised a million dollars in the first three months

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 8>of his campaign. Okay, absolutely say his name again, So everybody,

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 8>Andrew Gilliam, thank you, okay, and so okay.

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>So that leads me to the question of how do

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you reach people? Now, I'll say that a lot of

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>my a lot of my political involvement came at sort

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of like the tail end of two thousand and seven,

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.720
<v Speaker 1>back when there was a glimmer of hope that oh god, okay,

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>this could really happen for us. And of course, you know,

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Obama also benefited from really using the Internet to his

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>advantage and reaching people. So now as we stand ten

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>years later, I get a lot of panic emails from

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi and you know, like just the the usual characters,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, a lot of times it's just like

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel guilty from working in suspam because I do. Nevertheless,

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you see you see the subject line

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>is Nancy Pelosi, we need you amor no. That that

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>was like two thirteen. That was just like nigga, I'm

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>nigga cooking up fans. I can't wait. One Pelosi email

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>got me good, and I was just like, all right,

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll let me get my and I did it again,

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and already it was like, well, you're already a monthly contributor.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't realize, like Jesus Christ, I'm already a

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>month Oh you got to direct like that.

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 8>What if they weren't even if you weren't monthly and

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 8>they just told you that that would be funny.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I know. But still, well that also leads to it's

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this might be blasphemous say it. Do you feel that

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>we might need a change and leadership?

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 8>Yes, So here's what I will tell you. She as

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 8>a leader, she's been very effective. The reason why Nancy

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 8>Pelosi is still the Democratic leader is because she knows

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 8>how to raise money better than anybody else. And that's

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 8>a money raising job. Maybe it shouldn't be, but that's

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 8>what it is. Right now, what I'll.

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 9>Tell you is.

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 8>There are several things that we need and that is

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:51.760
<v Speaker 8>not the top of where I would start.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 8>Just for an example, the DNC just had kind of

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 8>a massive overhaul after the camp paign. We know that

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 8>Donna Brazil is filling in as an interim chair, just

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 8>like completely crushed it. She did so much that people

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 8>don't know. But just wait, I'm sure she will release

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 8>a book and seriously, and then now you have Tom

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 8>Perez who's heading up the DNC, my friend Michael Blake

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 8>who's a vice chair at the DNC. Two people of

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 8>color at the top, and before Donna Brazil, we hadn't

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 8>had that since Ron Brown, you know, like I mean,

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 8>it's it's been it's been a while, right, And of

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 8>course Donna Brazil had been vice chair, but not at

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 8>the top. So my thing to you would be, we

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 8>first need to ensure that the party writ large is okay,

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 8>who are the state party chairs? How are they serving

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 8>the communities that they're supposed to be? You know, this

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 8>big tent, this idea of a big tent, how is

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 8>the tent enlarging under these state parties chairs?

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 6>Leadership?

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 9>Nancy Pelosi is is in politics?

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 8>We have a messaging strategy called the boogeyman strategy. Right,

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 8>it's the boogeyman approach. Nancy Pelosi is the boogeyman. And

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 8>the reason why they went back to that approach most

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 8>recently in this special election in Georgia is because it worked.

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 8>When Michael Steele was chairman of the RNC, they had

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:18.760
<v Speaker 8>the fire Pelosi pins.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:19.760
<v Speaker 9>It worked very well.

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 8>Part of what you should interpret from that is that,

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 8>more than anything else in this country where people really

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 8>bond is the fear of women in leadership. It's not

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 8>about I'm just being honest with you. It's not about

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 8>Nancy Pelosi in the job she's doing. We could ask

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 8>all these people why we should get rid of Nancy

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 8>Pelosi and they wouldn't be able to give you a

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 8>reason because she'd been there a long time. Okay, so

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 8>was Harry Reid until he just retired. So was everybody

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 8>else in democratic leadership. So what is the real issue?

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 8>And I think the real issue is she's this liberal,

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 8>this uber liberal from California, and she's a woman. And

0:46:56.640 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 8>that is partially for Hillary Clinton. The woman issue us

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 8>her big problem. People can understand why evangelicals during the

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 8>campaign were flocking towards towards koochie grabbing Donald Trump. And

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 8>the reason for that is, more than anything else. In

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 8>the church, you're taught that a woman cannot be the

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 8>head of a household. She definitely ain't about to be

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 8>your pastor, and so she is not going.

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 9>To be your commander in chief.

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 8>So Nancy Pelosi at the top of the house scares people,

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 8>and to some of them, it is like it's out

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 8>of order, you know, like a woman is not supposed

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 8>to have that role. We're so ass backwards in this country.

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 8>But anyway, I'm just telling you, I don't I wouldn't

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 8>mind if Nancy Pelosi decided to retire. I just did

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 8>not for it on those things like what is the

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 8>real reason why they're pushing for her retirement when they

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 8>literally don't know the role of a democratic leader. Why

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 8>aren't you talking about the DNC and figuring out how to

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 8>help us identify who we really are? Why are we

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.959
<v Speaker 8>not talking about you know, the fact that the white

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 8>working class issues are the same as black and brown

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 8>and Asian folks. Working class issues like those are the

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 8>issues we should.

0:47:58.160 --> 0:47:59.760
<v Speaker 9>Be focused on, not damn Nancy.

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi when you speak of they and wanting Nancy Pelosi

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>out of there? Are you speaking of fellow Democrats?

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 8>There are some, I think there are There are a

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 8>few who for example, you know, Tim Ryan ran against

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 8>her in the leadership elections.

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 9>This time.

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 8>Of course, Tim Ryan goes on air on I think

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 8>it was Don le Min Show last week, was like, yeah,

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 8>we need change.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 9>Of course you said it, Yeah, you wanted to be

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 9>the change.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 8>And how much is how much change would that be

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 8>to go back to a white man in leadership?

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 9>You know, I mean a less So it's I don't know.

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 8>To me, it's like it's time for us to shake

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 8>up how we perceive leadership. I would love to see

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 8>more people of color in those roles, but that's not it,

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.760
<v Speaker 8>you know. And I don't think that Nancy Pelosi always

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 8>gets it right. But I don't think the answer is

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 8>to put another white man in charge.

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and you said it. What I want to know

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>is with entertainers usually seen as the go to, I mean,

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>we now live in a time in which you know,

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>little Yachty might have more excuse the collective colective eyebrow shut.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 6>I could do a Joe Blade walk.

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>If the collective eyebrow look at me was like, but

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is where we are, as where our

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>kids are, where we are where you know, entertainers have

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>more collateral and and say and you know than someone

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>with or perceived as someone would sense. So that said, uh,

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>how can we how do we utilize those who are

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>listened to? Is there going to have to be a

0:49:58.080 --> 0:49:59.240
<v Speaker 1>reach across the aisle?

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 6>How do we shut up a little?

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 9>Wayne?

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Just in case I don't even think he's a factor anymore.

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean every once and again, I mean.

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>It happened, yeah, but his time was ten years ago,

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>like now it's it's it's the old Wayne. Yes, migos could.

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Say, get you.

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, look now, uh, jay Z's new direction with four

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>forty four is leaning politically heavier than he's ever ever

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>ever been. How effective will that be as far as

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>getting people? Because you know, again it's who do they

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.280
<v Speaker 1>call on to get people to the polls? They Hillary

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>called on, Gaga called on Katy Perry called on well.

0:50:55.960 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 8>Maybe to be fair working popular vote.

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but again again, like the numbers of the twenty

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:08.279
<v Speaker 1>sixteen election are still up in the air because in

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the perfect world, did she win, you know, like we

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know popular vote, right, so thus how effective is that?

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 8>Well, I want to push back on that idea a

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:24.080
<v Speaker 8>little bit. I think that there was a time, you know,

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 8>in particular in two thousand and eight, where entertainers had

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 8>all the gravitas to push every GOOTV Get out the

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 8>Vote initiative and people did rely on them. And then

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 8>Twitter happened, and then Instagram happened, and then Snapchat happened.

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 8>And what has happened is platforms like these have democratized

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 8>voices so that you don't necessarily have to be Jay

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 8>Z or Beyonce or Gaga to mobilize audiences.

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 9>You can mobilize your own.

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 8>And while it may not be on the same level,

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 8>there are still folks that have millions of followers for

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 8>drawing on a mean eyebrow, you know, on YouTube, and

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 8>so I think that we I'm being honest, so and

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 8>literally a main eyebrow too. Anyway, I digress, But the

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 8>point is I don't know that that really works as

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.319
<v Speaker 8>much as anymore, and I think that we have to

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 8>be far more creative and engagement. And what that probably

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 8>really means is that by the time you're standing up

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 8>a campaign and you are developing your public engagement and

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 8>your social impact initiatives.

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.240
<v Speaker 9>It's too late. There's something.

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 8>And this takes me back full circle to the point

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 8>I was raising about party chairs on the ground. You

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 8>have to have almost a system like we talk so

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 8>much about community policing where it's just real relationships with folks.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 9>You just have to have real relationships with.

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 8>Folks and people feel like you represent their interests and

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 8>not feeling like, oh, you went to my church and

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 8>waved the fan or shook the tambourine or even you know,

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.520
<v Speaker 8>rock on beat with the tenor section, like you did

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.399
<v Speaker 8>more than that, and it wasn't just two weeks before

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 8>the election, like people know now you know.

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:13.359
<v Speaker 9>What I'm saying.

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 8>So I think that influencers have a role, but they

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 8>aren't anywhere near as influential as they were in a

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 8>wait because of these other platforms.

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Well could that grassroots? I'm glad you brought that up,

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I, for one, I believe that like

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:34.720
<v Speaker 1>my personal life goal at least where I am now

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 1>in my career or my monetary level, I mean my

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 1>personal life goal where I am right now if were

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>all to end, is I mean, can I effectively affect

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the lives of fifty people personally push them in the direction,

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>which people don't you know a lot of people have

0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 1>this whole the Michael Jackson, you know, heal the world,

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Save the world, you know, and you're thinking of millions

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of people, whereas you know, you see the Barocks campaign

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>start off on a grassroots level, which you know people

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>scoffed at, like, well, what good at grassroots doing? But

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>how how does the grassroots level? How effective will that be?

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And will we get there in time for the mid

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>terms or twenty twenty, because I do feel as though

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the grassroots level has to start sure, starts with the community,

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 1>starts with the block.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely.

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Is Alderman still a thing like.

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he ran, Yeah, he ran, he lost. He was

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 2>running against he would be a great person to have

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 2>on the show, but he was running against like the incumbent.

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:54.799
<v Speaker 1>He was like this cop guy that.

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 6>Like Chicago, Chicago.

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he lost.

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:04.760
<v Speaker 13>It was Alderman on good Time, Alderman, James, I think change.

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:09.359
<v Speaker 6>We can't even get.

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 9>Hilarious.

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 1>What is it? Okay? What is the Alderman's job? Is

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that like slightly above block captain or look it up

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:27.239
<v Speaker 1>on Wikipedia. Man ay right out what happened? I personally.

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 6>You don't have one. Probably maybe you don't.

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 8>Have but I think here, here, I think is the

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 8>point we can't afford not to engage in grassroots level advocacy.

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 8>And the point that you're raising, I think is one

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:45.720
<v Speaker 8>that's really important.

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 9>We don't know the true.

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 8>Impact of what Barack Obama did to mobilize people in

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 8>two thousand and seven. In two thousand and eight, via

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.840
<v Speaker 8>online platforms, you could go and set up a house

0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 8>meeting on his website. Hillary Clinton didn't do any of that,

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 8>you know, And I think that it was just it

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 8>was just different. It's not that she didn't do any

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:09.279
<v Speaker 8>of that. She didn't do it as in depth. She

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 8>didn't personally go into it in as many communities.

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she went in kind of a tone deaf campaign

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:16.879
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion. I mean, I thought she, you know.

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 6>She was gonna win, and kind of felt like, right,

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:20.840
<v Speaker 2>It was some of that, some of the entitlement, but

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 2>it was just yeah, when you whipping and on, I

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.360
<v Speaker 2>was just like, this is not gonna end. Well, she

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 2>was playing the satisfone on our City on Hall so

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:32.760
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, but he actually was playing it good,

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 2>not like.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't Chris wasn't I would.

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 8>Rather and carrying hot sauce in her bag didn't have themselves. Well,

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean she really, she really does carry hot sauce

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:52.959
<v Speaker 8>in her bag. But I will say this, I would

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 8>rather have her any day. And when you all deem

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 8>as tone death than what we have right now, she

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 8>looks like the mother of Jesus right now compared to that.

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 8>So anyway, the only point that I'm raising to you

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 8>is we can't afford not to find out what happens

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 8>if we don't. Right Like to your point about the midterms,

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:12.800
<v Speaker 8>twenty eighteen is right around the corner.

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 9>It is creeping. I mean, we are halfway through this year.

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you have hopes of something happening in twenty eighteen?

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:21.439
<v Speaker 1>What's the most that we could learn for it? Could

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:22.959
<v Speaker 1>we get some chairs, could we.

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 8>Potentially get the house with miracles? The challenge that we

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 8>have is there's something called a redistricting process that happened,

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 8>and in the last redistricting process in most states, they

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 8>drew these congressional districts very conservatively. And what they did

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 8>far better than us, is they were strategically targeting state

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 8>legislatures to run run for seats and win, and so

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 8>we hold very few state legislatures, we hold very few governorships.

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 8>Those are the entities that construct those state lines in

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 8>the redistricting process.

0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 11>And I asked, and I asked questions since you're kind

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 11>of leading into this, and it's sort of a parallel

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 11>to I guess mainly talking about federal politics or tonight, right.

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 11>And I think we've all known and been taught for

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 11>a long time that as an individualised the most effect

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 11>in local politics. And it seems like in order of

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 11>the things that we're obsessed with in politics, it's everybody's

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 11>obsessed with federal politics, where they have the least amount of, say,

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 11>and some interest in state politics of who's the governor

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 11>and who's the and yeah, and then local politics nobody

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 11>gives a shit at all, Like you don't know who's

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 11>running for you know.

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>What's aldermen? Right?

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 11>Like why you know, we know for a fact we

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 11>should be much you know, it should be like you said,

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 11>asked backwards. This seems asked backwards to me, like where

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 11>people's obsessions in politics lie.

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 8>So and I think that part of this is, you know,

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 8>not only is it our responsibility, but I would say

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 8>it's the responsibility of the media. How often do you

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:08.000
<v Speaker 8>turn on the local news and hear about what's going

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 8>on in a city council meeting or you know, in

0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 8>a city council hearing if it's not a big vote

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 8>coming up, like a huge ever, hear about it.

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 6>Or a fight or shooting at the or that Saint

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 6>Louis this opens.

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 9>Just like Compton DJ Quick said it.

0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 8>So I think that the point is you just never

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 8>know anything that's going on on the local level, you know,

0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 8>unless you get to the B section in your newspaper,

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 8>and who reads newspapers anymore? You can go to Twitter

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 8>and find your headlines and click on that article. So

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 8>I think the responsibility is in part on the media.

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 8>But as a result, again going back to the idea

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 8>of being taxpayers, we have to figure out how to

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 8>go and get that information. And it's frustrating and really

0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 8>hard to encourage people to do that in a day

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 8>and age where everything comes to you, like you don't

0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 8>have to.

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 9>Go get your news, you get an alert on your phone.

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 8>So how how do you tell people in a space

1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 8>where attention spans are short and everything comes to them

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 8>to go out and get it. It's hard and I

1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 8>don't really know the answer to this. I also just

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 8>said this at the panel I was on for BT

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 8>Genius Talks. I am, truly, I think a great example

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:21.040
<v Speaker 8>of a hypocrite in this space. I very rarely know

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 8>anything about what's happening on the local level politically, and

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:27.440
<v Speaker 8>it's horrible. If it wasn't for my dad giving me

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 8>his Philipbruster rundown on the phone to night, even at

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.680
<v Speaker 8>home and Seattle, I just wouldn't know because I'm not

1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 8>as interested in it, and I know it impacts my

1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 8>everyday life a lot more. We talk about there's just

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:42.040
<v Speaker 8>another shooting death in Seattle by the police department, Charlene

1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 8>and Lyles.

1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:45.800
<v Speaker 9>You know that is something that I care about.

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:49.800
<v Speaker 8>And to my credit, I tweeted about one of my

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:53.000
<v Speaker 8>good friends who's a city council member, so she's probably

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 8>ready to choke me. She hears this Lorena Gonzalez in Seattle,

1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 8>who was holding a town hall meeting about what happened

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 8>in that shooting death.

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:01.560
<v Speaker 9>And very rarely do.

1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:04.240
<v Speaker 8>You see things like that happening where city councilors like

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 8>I know, we're culpable, we have a problem.

1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 9>Let's come and talk about it.

1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:09.560
<v Speaker 8>That's a big thing because we don't ever feel heard,

1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:12.200
<v Speaker 8>and that's why you see some of those protest actions happening,

1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 8>because people are like, we pay y'all and you're still

1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:15.160
<v Speaker 8>killing us.

1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 9>So full circle.

1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:19.680
<v Speaker 8>I do need to do a lot more myself, But

1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:21.760
<v Speaker 8>I talk about what I know because that's where I

1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:23.360
<v Speaker 8>worked and that's what I'm most interested in.

1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:24.160
<v Speaker 9>But that's not right.

1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.360
<v Speaker 11>I meant, in general, it seems like everybody's much more interested.

1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:29.800
<v Speaker 8>No, no, I agree with I was just using my own

1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:31.640
<v Speaker 8>hypocrisy as an example.

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<v Speaker 2>My question, my question for you is like, how what

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.760
<v Speaker 2>are reputable news sources for you? Because we were joking

1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:42.360
<v Speaker 2>earlier about a movie and stuff, but real rap, I mean,

1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of it's just in the age we live

1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:49.760
<v Speaker 2>in of social media, where information flies fast and disinformation

1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and misinformation flies even faster. Yeah, after a while, I mean,

1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you I open my Twitter feed and I'm just like bullshit,

1:01:56.640 --> 1:01:57.800
<v Speaker 2>bullshit my line bullshit.

1:01:57.840 --> 1:01:58.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:00.760
<v Speaker 9>It's just like, are you following well?

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean I follow CNN and I follow all the

1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:04.320
<v Speaker 1>big you know.

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I try to get quote unquote both sides,

1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:08.560
<v Speaker 2>but after a while, it just is a lot of

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:09.240
<v Speaker 2>just words words.

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<v Speaker 9>We need both sides.

1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:13.080
<v Speaker 8>So at this point it's a it's a human decency issue,

1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:16.360
<v Speaker 8>right like this, This is not a partisan issue where

1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:19.560
<v Speaker 8>you're just seeing it from another lens. It literally is about,

1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, morality at this point. On the other side

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<v Speaker 8>of that, who are your five go to.

1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:26.360
<v Speaker 9>Periodicals or whatever?

1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:30.080
<v Speaker 8>I would say New York Times, CNN, l A Times,

1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:32.880
<v Speaker 8>Seattle Times because I'm from there.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I like the route. What else? Political?

1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:42.120
<v Speaker 6>For Hill News, I gotta get the act together.

1:02:42.120 --> 1:02:42.560
<v Speaker 9>The roots?

1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.120
<v Speaker 8>All right, that's fair too, But as soon as we

1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:48.760
<v Speaker 8>get to favorite groups and the best live show, we'll

1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:49.920
<v Speaker 8>talk about the roots.

1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:54.120
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, the root and then I also I said

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<v Speaker 9>the political political, the Hill? What else?

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<v Speaker 7>Washington Post?

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<v Speaker 8>Washington Post is also a good one, but yeah, I

1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:04.400
<v Speaker 8>normally those are my are my go.

1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:07.000
<v Speaker 10>Tos Yo you mentioned, I mean just you mentioned your

1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:09.120
<v Speaker 10>phone getting hacked. But have you you You're very we

1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.000
<v Speaker 10>all know you're very vocal. I know you hold back,

1:03:11.000 --> 1:03:14.240
<v Speaker 10>but doesn't seem like it on TV. Have you running

1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:16.640
<v Speaker 10>the situations where you've been threatened in that way in

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<v Speaker 10>some way?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, there was one I only had Thank god, I've

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<v Speaker 8>only had one death threat situation that had to be reported,

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<v Speaker 8>and several people even on my feed also reported it,

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<v Speaker 8>not just to Twitter, but like to the FEDS, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>this is seems like a legitimate issue. And actually it

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<v Speaker 8>happened while I was getting off the plane in Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 9>We talked about Saint Louis earlier.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, I think that there are definitely some legitimate issues.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think regardless of how outspoken I've been, I've

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<v Speaker 8>not been threatened at any degree, at any degree or

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<v Speaker 8>at any level. The same of some of my friends

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<v Speaker 8>who are really doing the on the ground activist work.

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<v Speaker 1>So activist work, what is what is your view or

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<v Speaker 1>your take on we're actives stands now? Do we need

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<v Speaker 1>a figurehead? Do we need a Malcolm? Do we need

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<v Speaker 1>a Martin? Do we need a do we have one?

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<v Speaker 6>And we just don't know?

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<v Speaker 9>No, I think that is different.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people are vying for a position,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, but as far as not non Washington politics,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the the ongoing problem of shooting

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<v Speaker 1>unarmed people, it's still you know, we're as far as

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<v Speaker 1>where we are today. What is your view on activism

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<v Speaker 1>and it's participants mainly those that are, you know, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they've started this movement or that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I.

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<v Speaker 8>Really don't care about the who started what discussion. I

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<v Speaker 8>am grateful for for the work of the women who

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<v Speaker 8>founded the hashtag, the Black Lives Matter hashtag, Alicia and

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<v Speaker 8>Opal and Patrice as I'm equally grateful to, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the many contributions to that movement of Deray and Brittany

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<v Speaker 8>and Sam and Janetta. I am also even more grateful

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<v Speaker 8>to the fact that, or of the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 8>been young people, we would have been talking about criminal

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<v Speaker 8>justice reform and mass incarceration in the twenty sixteen campaign

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<v Speaker 8>if it wasn't for the work of young activists. When

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<v Speaker 8>I think about the many ways in which were often

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<v Speaker 8>challenged and by this I mean black organizations are traditional

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<v Speaker 8>civil rights organizations to provide data and metrics for why.

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<v Speaker 9>We deserve grant money.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I think about what Deray and Brittany and

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<v Speaker 8>Sam have done with Campaign zero, showing you the data

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<v Speaker 8>on the number of black and brown people who've been

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<v Speaker 8>killed at the hands of police or have been brutalized

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<v Speaker 8>at the hands of police. All of that work matters,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think the sooner that people can stop worrying about,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, whether or not there needs to be ahead,

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<v Speaker 8>or is there a head and who's our new Martin

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<v Speaker 8>or who's our new Malcolm, and just focuses on the

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<v Speaker 8>fact that the work is getting done and we need

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<v Speaker 8>all of these people and everyone has a role to play,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's not a competition. And the moment that we

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<v Speaker 8>get sidetracked on the competition, that's the moment where another

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<v Speaker 8>black or brown person dies. You know, we just can't

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<v Speaker 8>afford to have those types of silos. I think about,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the work of the Women's March that Janey

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<v Speaker 8>Ingram and Tamika Mallory and Linda Sarsoura and Carmen Perez

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<v Speaker 8>all were a part of, and in the backlash they

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<v Speaker 8>got from black and brown woman who said, why are

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<v Speaker 8>you working with white feminists because traditionally they step on

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<v Speaker 8>us and on our issues. Well, at what point do

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<v Speaker 8>we say, I'm gonna deal with that a little bit,

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<v Speaker 8>but let's stand together on this one thing. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 8>here so that you have a voice at this table.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's just get through this part. I think that we

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<v Speaker 8>just have too much on the line to not figure

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<v Speaker 8>out ways to work together.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be a slippery slip though, because what do

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<v Speaker 1>we say if uh, let's say the CEO of PEPSI

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<v Speaker 1>visits Trump's White House.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's different.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's And the reason why I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>different is because Donald Trump invites people to the White

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<v Speaker 8>House for photo opportunities, not to create real change. And

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<v Speaker 8>I think the moment you go and you sit at

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<v Speaker 8>a table and you see that your there's no intention

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<v Speaker 8>on your voice being heard.

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<v Speaker 9>You played yourself. That's totally different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can tell you so that selfie or that

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<v Speaker 1>photo he took with the.

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<v Speaker 8>The HBCU presidents where there's nine thousand of them in

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<v Speaker 8>the room and Kelly and the couch, that one that's

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<v Speaker 8>the one you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a little Houston five hundred.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they played themselves. They played themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 6>Those pens.

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely not whatsoever like you. Yeah, so to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in their eyes, did they figure that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you two are trying to get a seat at the

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<v Speaker 1>table and.

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<v Speaker 8>Well and they got played because what happened was they

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<v Speaker 8>were told that they were going to have a sit

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<v Speaker 8>down meeting with Donald Trump and instead were ushered into

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<v Speaker 8>the Oval office, where it is far too small for

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<v Speaker 8>that many president college presidents to go in there for

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<v Speaker 8>a photo opportunity. They were never talked to by the president. Instead,

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<v Speaker 8>he sent his little celebrity apprentice and h to talk

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<v Speaker 8>to them.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel about her, I don't know. I had god

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<v Speaker 1>that that.

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<v Speaker 8>No love, especially after I don't know if you all saw,

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<v Speaker 8>but she sent a letter to.

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<v Speaker 9>The Congressional Black Caucus.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me just no, no, that that ain't even the worst

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<v Speaker 8>part because we know she's not honorable number one, who

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<v Speaker 8>signs when you're the honorable, you don't have to sign

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<v Speaker 8>your letter the honorable like people notice sign send you

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<v Speaker 8>a letter that says that. So also, you know, not

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<v Speaker 8>just in law school, but I think even in high school,

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<v Speaker 8>you learn where an address block goes on the letter

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<v Speaker 8>where Dederick Richmond's address block was at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 8>the letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good nights, I've gotten some letters.

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<v Speaker 8>Somebody somebody said to check that. And then and then

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<v Speaker 8>the bottom line is after she was denied, she went

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<v Speaker 8>on Twitter and said one monkey doesn't don't stop, no show.

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<v Speaker 6>So are you saying, wait?

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<v Speaker 10>So the story isros got denied into the Black Caucus.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh no, that was never gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 8>She invited them on behalf of Donald Trump, to come

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<v Speaker 8>back to the White House for a meeting. The first

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<v Speaker 8>time they went, they didn't take the whole CBC because

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<v Speaker 8>it didn't merit the entire CBC's time. Congressman Richmond who's

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<v Speaker 8>the chair of the caucus, went in with just the

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<v Speaker 8>Executive Committee, which is standard we did it for under

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<v Speaker 8>Barack Obama's administration. And they took in a white paper

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<v Speaker 8>that said, here are here's one hundred and thirty pages

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<v Speaker 8>of issues that you could be working on that would

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<v Speaker 8>help to advance the black community. So when you ask us,

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<v Speaker 8>what in the hell do we have to lose, exhibit

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<v Speaker 8>a sucker. And that's what they did. And so she

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<v Speaker 8>invited them back because that wasn't enough attention for her

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<v Speaker 8>and said, why don't all of you come back so

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<v Speaker 8>they could.

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<v Speaker 9>Try to get this photo op?

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<v Speaker 8>And you played yourself because we know who you are

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<v Speaker 8>and what you stand for.

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<v Speaker 9>Good night.

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<v Speaker 8>I folt like she might sit outside at a desk

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<v Speaker 8>at the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>What was told? Would she be in house of cars?

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<v Speaker 1>Which character she would be?

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<v Speaker 9>Not on camera?

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<v Speaker 8>She would be like like the person, the staffer who

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<v Speaker 8>oversees the interns.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 9>I understand.

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<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't even give her Freddy because Freddy got more

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<v Speaker 8>honored this year. But I just wanted to tell you

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<v Speaker 8>all this in case you missed it to all the listeners.

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<v Speaker 8>The reason why I treat her so bad is because

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<v Speaker 8>not only is she the devil, but she also before

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<v Speaker 8>she was all on Donald Trump's bandwagon, she was doing

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<v Speaker 8>Hillary Clinton. There's photo evidence looking up online Hillary Clinton fundraisers.

1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:48.320
<v Speaker 8>There was a super pack that was established before Hillary

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<v Speaker 8>Clinton announced, called ready for Hillary. Morosa was ready for Hillary.

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<v Speaker 8>She worked in the Clinton white House. Yeah, we don't

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<v Speaker 8>do Yeah, we don't do that.

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<v Speaker 9>We don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait, I forgot my question.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 10>I've seen a couple of black people in that in

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<v Speaker 10>that White House, in the over office. They're always the

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<v Speaker 10>one to pushing the reporters out like a couple of

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<v Speaker 10>weird It is we Yeah, Angela Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 8>She tried to compare herself to Valerie Jared. Girl, if

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<v Speaker 8>you ever listen to this, she won't ever be Valerie.

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<v Speaker 8>That ain't right, That ain't right, That ain't right, that right,

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<v Speaker 8>she said, I'm Valerie Jared to Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 6>What what?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes? Exactly Bell, Valerie Jared.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, what did.

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<v Speaker 9>Y'all How did y'all get me down that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, we go down?

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<v Speaker 9>Can I stand her?

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<v Speaker 1>Did that clip ever come out?

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<v Speaker 9>Which clip?

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<v Speaker 1>The clip you said.

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<v Speaker 7>Sound like you're saying something crazy?

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<v Speaker 8>I notice that from the from the yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 8>think they put it on a couple of sites.

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<v Speaker 9>National Action Network.

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<v Speaker 8>They had a women's luncheon and Empowerment Women's luncheon, and

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<v Speaker 8>she spoke I don't know who, Rev, I love you

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<v Speaker 8>so much, but I don't know who thought that was

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<v Speaker 8>gonna be a good idea to have omros to speak

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<v Speaker 8>at the beginning of this lunch. And she got up

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<v Speaker 8>there and tried to lie to my cousin. So I

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<v Speaker 8>had to correct the record. I didn't need to do

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<v Speaker 8>my acceptance speech. I just had to come for her.

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<v Speaker 8>And so that's what happened. Trump's Apprentice is I didn't

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<v Speaker 8>even call her by the name, just Trump's a Princeice.

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<v Speaker 8>Did she just walk out after No, So she actually

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<v Speaker 8>walked out. Rev kind of got her and then she

1:13:38.120 --> 1:13:40.040
<v Speaker 8>walked out after that. So I was like, well, somebody

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<v Speaker 8>show her a video because I'm about to show it.

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<v Speaker 6>So y'all never been at each other's life.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they were trying to put her in pictures with

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<v Speaker 8>me that day. I was like, I'm not taking pictures

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<v Speaker 8>with her. That flies against everything I stand for.

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<v Speaker 10>You must have a list of people that like, not

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<v Speaker 10>only pictures. I will not engage in conversation.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not that long though, people on CNN who are

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<v Speaker 8>Trump supporters, who I actually like, you know, but I

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<v Speaker 8>just don't like when people are, you know, just blatant liars,

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<v Speaker 8>just you know, you switch and you contort and you

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<v Speaker 8>just do whatever's convenient when you're clearly an opportunistic person.

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<v Speaker 9>I just don't. I can't rock with you.

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<v Speaker 6>How many times have you been to offer your own

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<v Speaker 6>show on one of these networks?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that's my next question. It was, why do

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<v Speaker 1>you not have your own show like that?

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<v Speaker 7>I won't have my own show.

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<v Speaker 1>Exclusive coming out when Okay, well, yes, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you. When Melissai Harris Perry left her, he didn't leave, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't when she was escorted. Yeah, when she when

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<v Speaker 1>her post was by my employer, did you get a

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<v Speaker 1>phone call like would you like your own showing.

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<v Speaker 9>You so yes, people are calling me.

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<v Speaker 8>I will say that there was not a better person

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<v Speaker 8>that could have taken that morning slot than Joy Read.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Joy now I was devastated when her daily

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<v Speaker 8>show was canceled. And I think that she has like

1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:18.160
<v Speaker 8>she kills it. She's better than so many people on

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<v Speaker 8>so many networks.

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<v Speaker 6>They put us on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and and but I think that she could easily,

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<v Speaker 8>like we see her all the time filling in for

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<v Speaker 8>some of the other daily shows.

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<v Speaker 9>She's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 8>But yes, I think that I, you know, talk about

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<v Speaker 8>things in a certain way, and I will definitely be

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<v Speaker 8>doing something.

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<v Speaker 9>But yes, people are calling.

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<v Speaker 1>Ambiguity.

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<v Speaker 9>No, not just.

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<v Speaker 10>That question about some real quick Can I just say

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<v Speaker 10>that moment we're all talking about the N word follow

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<v Speaker 10>up or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course, everybody talking about ice cube. Everybody talked about

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<v Speaker 6>doctor Dyson. But Simone Sanders, Yes.

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<v Speaker 9>She had. She had a great moment.

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<v Speaker 8>And the thing that people don't understand is Simon was

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<v Speaker 8>booked to go on the show before that inward moment happened.

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<v Speaker 8>She did phenomenally well, so I was definitely cheering her

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<v Speaker 8>on and I was so glad that she was there

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<v Speaker 8>to kind of speak out not just for black people

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<v Speaker 8>and educating on the inward, but also black women.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Sorry, No, it's it's quite a rough show too, your show.

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<v Speaker 12>I think were about to ask some Yeah, God.

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<v Speaker 4>You were saying that you're friends with some Trump supporters.

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<v Speaker 4>When I meet someone and learned that they're Trump supporter,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Time talking to them.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand, Like I can't. I understand because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>understand how they could vote for someone that's not dumb.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I feel about that. I don't think any

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<v Speaker 4>of the tables trump supporters. I hope not because I'll

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<v Speaker 4>be weird, that particularly weird. But I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, Bill, So I can't.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't talk to them about politics. What I have

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<v Speaker 8>worked really hard on doing is understanding who they are

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<v Speaker 8>as human beings, like why in the what?

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<v Speaker 9>And sometimes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't separate that. I mean, can you separate that?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 9>Sometimes it's really hard.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think one good example is on CNN Jeffrey Lord,

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<v Speaker 8>who I'm often like if we're on together, like like

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<v Speaker 8>are you serious?

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<v Speaker 9>Did you really just say? Or whatever?

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<v Speaker 8>Every night, when Jeffrey leaves CNN, he is driving home

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<v Speaker 8>back to Pennsylvania to take care of his mother, who

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<v Speaker 8>has dementia. And to me, that's something that's very personal

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<v Speaker 8>because my grandmother passed away with Alzheimer's a couple of

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<v Speaker 8>years ago, and I know how hard that work is.

1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:49.000
<v Speaker 8>I know how hard it was for my dad and

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<v Speaker 8>his sisters and his brothers. It was really really tough.

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<v Speaker 8>And then making the decision to put my grandmother in

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<v Speaker 8>a home where I was like, she has a mouth,

1:17:56.000 --> 1:17:59.120
<v Speaker 8>like my n gonna kill her, and fortunately they then

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<v Speaker 8>they ended up actually really really loving her.

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<v Speaker 9>But I just know that, and so it just it

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<v Speaker 9>there is there.

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<v Speaker 8>I know that about him, and that means that somewhere

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<v Speaker 8>beyond the Trump propaganda, right, there's the heart of someone

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<v Speaker 8>who's truly compassionate and really loves his family. And so

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<v Speaker 8>there are things like that that I have to kind

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<v Speaker 8>of latch onto and and just be hopeful about the KKK.

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<v Speaker 6>They love their family.

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<v Speaker 8>Dude, Yeah, I ain't checking for the KKKO they love it.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think he's the kk Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about your dad and how he was an activist.

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<v Speaker 2>Was your mother politically active as well?

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<v Speaker 6>It is?

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<v Speaker 8>My dad still has a bullhorn in his trunk. We

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<v Speaker 8>just did a in real life, We just did a

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<v Speaker 8>seventy fifth surprise birthday party for him at the beginning

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<v Speaker 8>of June, and.

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<v Speaker 9>The props at the photo booths, like we had his.

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<v Speaker 8>Old MLK signs and the bullhorn was made a very

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<v Speaker 8>prominent appearance.

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<v Speaker 9>At the party. So he's really serious about it.

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<v Speaker 8>My mom was is not the same type of activists

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<v Speaker 8>as my dad. She is a retired college administrator, but

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<v Speaker 8>she was on affirmative action commissions and studying how students

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<v Speaker 8>of color learned, and very active in multicultural education on

1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:12.960
<v Speaker 8>her campus, so very much so. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 8>pictures that my childhood Dennis found and got blown up

1:19:17.240 --> 1:19:19.160
<v Speaker 8>for my parents for my dad's birthday, actually was my

1:19:19.240 --> 1:19:22.920
<v Speaker 8>parents marching side by side. It's a great picture. It's

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<v Speaker 8>my cover photo on Facebook right now. I was like,

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<v Speaker 8>look at black love happening.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 8>And my dad had on a bad sweet coach too.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, this dude was stayed silent in the march.

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<v Speaker 9>But okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the idea of being politically active, what would

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<v Speaker 1>your message be to people, especially my field of entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>What are effective ways for us to get involved? In

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<v Speaker 1>which what I say is that the the Harry Bellefonte

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<v Speaker 1>method method where he m the sixties routinely funded you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>marches and hotels and bail money, that sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>I see. I feel as though, ever since the the

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<v Speaker 1>Dixie Chicks a Bush uh Natalie Mind's criticizing Bush in

1:20:27.360 --> 1:20:30.040
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three for the war and how that

1:20:30.120 --> 1:20:37.320
<v Speaker 1>affected their their money, their income, he kind of seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet, apprehensive a political view from a lot of entertainers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I for one, thought, oh, that this war is

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<v Speaker 1>really going to bring on you know, uh what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on type Yeah, are politically motivated, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>more conscious from the opposite and rendered them indifferent and

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<v Speaker 1>really to where we are now, like just Cole getting

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<v Speaker 1>dumb so and you know a lot of a lot

1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:11.439
<v Speaker 1>of people would you know, feel as though they might

1:21:11.479 --> 1:21:13.479
<v Speaker 1>have something to lose. I mean not in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of a it's football player, guy that didn't vote in

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<v Speaker 1>the last election.

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry, So just as an example of that though, like

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's important for us to understand that.

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<v Speaker 9>Where we are siloed or we are left.

1:21:38.640 --> 1:21:42.120
<v Speaker 8>Standing as individuals, we're easier to target and to strike

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<v Speaker 8>and to take out if we stand as a collective,

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<v Speaker 8>unified group, NFL players that know the national anthem doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>speak for us, and shouldn't NFL players that know that

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<v Speaker 8>black lives matter and we should stand for something, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we It shouldn't have just been Colin and that is

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<v Speaker 8>why it was so easy for them to take him out.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, you know, using your art to convey a

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<v Speaker 8>certain message is important.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think that there's something that.

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<v Speaker 8>We, as a collective, the people, have to do to

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<v Speaker 8>support that art. I think about jay Z the song Spiritual,

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<v Speaker 8>How well did that do? And think about what it

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<v Speaker 8>was really about?

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<v Speaker 1>So the song he had a song?

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<v Speaker 10>You listen to it, listen to it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, you've done the unthinkable is to name

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<v Speaker 4>a song that these two never heard of. It was

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<v Speaker 4>it was a title exclusive, wasn't it? Because I don't care,

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<v Speaker 4>it's never I'm looking for it right now. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope I title hope reas someone He was twelve

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<v Speaker 4>and no one ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've heard it.

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<v Speaker 8>So all I'm telling, all I'm saying to you is

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<v Speaker 8>or you can look at t I released this mini

1:23:03.680 --> 1:23:07.000
<v Speaker 8>doc on bt us or else, And of course the

1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:08.000
<v Speaker 8>corresponding album.

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<v Speaker 9>How well did those things?

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<v Speaker 8>Do you know, when we say that we need our

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<v Speaker 8>artists to be conscious and woke and to be pushing

1:23:15.960 --> 1:23:19.000
<v Speaker 8>this material and you know, touting these messages, how do

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<v Speaker 8>we support them when they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just lip service.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's just from in my opinion, like when

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<v Speaker 2>people talk about quote unquote conscious hip hop, when they

1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:30.479
<v Speaker 2>say they want that from artists, I think it's very

1:23:30.600 --> 1:23:33.800
<v Speaker 2>much like your grocery card is. Like everybody say they

1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>want to eat vegetables, but that ship don't never make it.

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<v Speaker 6>They just don't want it from everybody.

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<v Speaker 13>They wanted a chance, but everybody, yes, taking a consideration,

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<v Speaker 13>the record labels don't want to put in the extra

1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:45.799
<v Speaker 13>work to market that kind of material.

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<v Speaker 2>But then too, But for me, like I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just using him as a example, like do I

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<v Speaker 2>really want to hear a conscious record quote unquote from

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<v Speaker 2>t I?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean he I mean, but a lot of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 9>it has been infused.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard reality.

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<v Speaker 13>Do you really want to another see the record about

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<v Speaker 13>all the other ship that he wraps about on all

1:24:02.520 --> 1:24:03.360
<v Speaker 13>his other records, because he.

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<v Speaker 1>Wraps about that ship really well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you you can listen to like you can

1:24:11.200 --> 1:24:12.880
<v Speaker 2>get Rubber fan Man whatever you can.

1:24:13.000 --> 1:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>They talk the same ship. So if he wants to

1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>run about something else, then he should be. And that's

1:24:18.439 --> 1:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the thing. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>My point is if he wants to do that, then

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely let him do it. But I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>problem kind of what back when you feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>insincere if don't make niggas out to be more than

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<v Speaker 2>what they are, Like when you know when when they

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<v Speaker 2>went to.

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<v Speaker 6>Aren't niggas more than one thing?

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<v Speaker 1>What I feel like we're getting now, we're getting into.

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<v Speaker 2>This Ferguson, like when Ferguson happened, when Mike Brown happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody was like Nelly needed to come and speak,

1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Nelly needed to come, and I was just like okay,

1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and then Nelly spoke and it's just like and then

1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and then people started climbing. It was like, dude, that

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<v Speaker 2>ain't his Maybe that's not yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Because that is his community. That is I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 10>the most famous famous MC to come out.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, with the people, walk with the people. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to be I have a dream to put niggas.

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<v Speaker 8>On j You don't stop what you're doing but I

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<v Speaker 8>think the reality of it is we shouldn't We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 8>necessarily try to control them if that's what they feel

1:25:16.360 --> 1:25:19.400
<v Speaker 8>like they should be expressing. I also think that we

1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.800
<v Speaker 8>should try to be supportive of it. If we're saying

1:25:21.840 --> 1:25:25.040
<v Speaker 8>that nobody's hearing us and we're not, you know, the voices.

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<v Speaker 9>That are talking about it aren't loud enough.

1:25:26.320 --> 1:25:28.519
<v Speaker 8>And then once those voices are talking about it, we

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<v Speaker 8>don't support it.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a problem.

1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:32.559
<v Speaker 8>If we don't like how they're expressing it, then we

1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:35.560
<v Speaker 8>can offer, you know, criticism, but at least try to

1:25:35.600 --> 1:25:37.840
<v Speaker 8>hear them out. And then the other piece I would

1:25:37.880 --> 1:25:41.599
<v Speaker 8>say is there are artists who are very conscious who

1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:44.599
<v Speaker 8>would still say, you know, there's stuff about this whole

1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:47.000
<v Speaker 8>stuff that I don't know enough about, and I want

1:25:47.000 --> 1:25:47.799
<v Speaker 8>to learn more.

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<v Speaker 9>Before I step out there.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think that it's up to those of us

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<v Speaker 8>who do know more to help educate the masses period,

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<v Speaker 8>regardless of that they have a platform or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have got whack bezza, Come.

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<v Speaker 9>On, what's happen?

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta make this is real life and this is

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<v Speaker 6>what people think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's gotta be a jet like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's to me, because we were having this

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<v Speaker 2>company earlier, the role of you know, entertainers quote unquote

1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>as activists to me, that's just it gets really negolous.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the sugar helps medicine go down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, dude, just do what you do. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like, do do what you do

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<v Speaker 2>at the best, at what you do. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need artists to quote unquote inspire me by trying to inspire.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't need it at about most people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I think bad and Bougie will

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<v Speaker 2>get more niggas to work than damn less about black

1:26:35.000 --> 1:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>people people.

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<v Speaker 1>This inspirationals You're saying that Migos doing a benefit concert

1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>that could raise money for cause, blah blah blah blah blah.

1:26:50.680 --> 1:26:53.519
<v Speaker 1>It's more effective not with them doing.

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<v Speaker 8>Everybody do the same thing. Every artist doesn't have to

1:26:57.960 --> 1:27:00.559
<v Speaker 8>do the same thing. Their contribution may not look like

1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:03.800
<v Speaker 8>Harry Belafonte. Maybe there is somebody that can bring a

1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:08.640
<v Speaker 8>stage show to Broadway and disrupt culture just on how

1:27:08.680 --> 1:27:11.519
<v Speaker 8>we see ourselves thinking about Hamilton, Like, there are so

1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:14.000
<v Speaker 8>many ways that we can disrupt that don't have to

1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:19.600
<v Speaker 8>be you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Also, Jay Z is setting a little standard tude that

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<v Speaker 10>I think is kind of cool because he's been doing

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<v Speaker 10>things lately and I don't give him props usually, but

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just saying, you don't like the bail things, so

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<v Speaker 10>like you didn't you feel about that you didn't like.

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<v Speaker 8>Was a part of the Dream Defenders doing that. Dream

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<v Speaker 8>Defenders started doing that with mothers who were incarcerated on

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<v Speaker 8>Mother's Day and helping them.

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<v Speaker 9>Get out of jail. So he actually supported organizations doing

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<v Speaker 9>that work. I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 8>He also helped to bail folks out during the Ferguson protest.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that helps. That helps, But.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it has a lot of it has to

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<v Speaker 4>happen like Vietnam. Right, it was like Bob Dylan was

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<v Speaker 4>writing this music and it was it was more universal

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<v Speaker 4>doing it from there.

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<v Speaker 13>It's also not all up in the press being like yo,

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<v Speaker 13>I did this, I did that, I did this, I

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<v Speaker 13>did that. Right, So, like, nobody really to know what

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<v Speaker 13>any of these cats are doing, just doing the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I were to tell y'all, I don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you did, I'm I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you do. What you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do just do it, and just do something and don't

1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>try to get the love for it. Just do it

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<v Speaker 1>true because you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know it's prosperate off this community. Give it back something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I agree, give it back, but give it back

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that best fits you.

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<v Speaker 7>Like you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Just my problem is just trying to make everybody you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm or Martin what It's just like, dude, like that

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<v Speaker 2>just ain't your calling, man, Like, give it the best,

1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>do the best you and and be true in that. Like,

1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>don't try to make somebody that ain't a speaker or

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't try to make them into something that they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying. Where's jaw where? Yo? For real?

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it becomes a where's jah woke off moment

1:28:57.920 --> 1:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>where everybody's trying to show how woke they are and

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<v Speaker 2>this like all right, all y'all needs need to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 6>From Carolina And.

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<v Speaker 10>You don't like slavery shows neither, and but he loved

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<v Speaker 10>black women.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a weird you know, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Love we're also a hip hop generation and we are

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<v Speaker 1>in mid life crisis right now. Also let's admit that

1:29:25.880 --> 1:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>as well. I feel like us as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>first generation of hip hop. We're also under mid life

1:29:31.240 --> 1:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>crisis because you know, I mean we're we don't recognize

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<v Speaker 1>it no more. Yeah, we don't recognize it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh Freshman cover. That's yeah, that looked like Pokemon.

1:29:47.360 --> 1:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who these niggas?

1:29:51.400 --> 1:29:54.120
<v Speaker 6>Was like, nah, yes, just a shameless plug.

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<v Speaker 10>It wasn't nothing like that Essence cover with all those

1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:58.240
<v Speaker 10>ladies like Angela Roach when that was a beautiful cover,

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<v Speaker 10>like that Essence cover.

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<v Speaker 9>Is honor a part of it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the sports entertainment lawyer story? Why didn't I?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? So the short version is I.

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<v Speaker 1>Extended dance version.

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<v Speaker 9>To this day. I love the movie.

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<v Speaker 8>Jerry Maguire like, I absolutely love it. And so I

1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:21.920
<v Speaker 8>was like, I want to be a sports entertainment lawyer.

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<v Speaker 8>And I told my pastor, who's also my goddad.

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<v Speaker 9>I was like, this is really what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 9>So he's like, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 8>So we had like some Seahawks players that went to

1:30:32.600 --> 1:30:34.760
<v Speaker 8>my church at the time, and so one of the

1:30:34.800 --> 1:30:37.519
<v Speaker 8>players he introduced me to after He's like.

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<v Speaker 9>It's my god daughter. She want to be a sports

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<v Speaker 9>en tamu lawyer.

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<v Speaker 8>We like standing on the altar after the benediction at church,

1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:45.519
<v Speaker 8>Goddad b lines and the dude was like, if you're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna represent me, what you're gonna do for me? And

1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:49.880
<v Speaker 8>I was like, okay, and it ain't that type of party.

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<v Speaker 8>I will find another job wait in church.

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<v Speaker 9>At church right after.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where to.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 10>So on the hills of that question, And you tell

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<v Speaker 10>me if this is going too far, Angela, but this

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<v Speaker 10>is my own curiosity.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you single?

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<v Speaker 10>And if you are, how crazy is it to navigate

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<v Speaker 10>in your world being who you are with the mouth

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<v Speaker 10>that you have?

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm assuming that you rather go black.

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<v Speaker 9>So I've never dated a white guy.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay that, but I will also say that, so I

1:31:32.080 --> 1:31:36.760
<v Speaker 8>will also say that I am single. That is, this

1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:39.519
<v Speaker 8>is not a plug for tender like engagement, though on

1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:42.160
<v Speaker 8>social media I say that regularly, like I'm not on

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<v Speaker 8>Twitter trying to find a dude.

1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:44.800
<v Speaker 9>Please don't d m me.

1:31:44.880 --> 1:31:48.520
<v Speaker 8>I have some crazy dms, like crazy dms, crazy comments

1:31:48.920 --> 1:31:53.519
<v Speaker 8>on Instagram in particular, And while I appreciate the love,

1:31:53.600 --> 1:31:55.720
<v Speaker 8>sometimes I just wish they would just hold it in

1:31:55.760 --> 1:31:56.280
<v Speaker 8>their hearts.

1:31:57.479 --> 1:32:00.800
<v Speaker 9>I just want to say I got something happening right now.

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<v Speaker 8>I just want to stay focused but no, it's it's

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<v Speaker 8>it's fine.

1:32:04.960 --> 1:32:05.720
<v Speaker 9>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not difficult dating in this.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think I have a problem being approached. I

1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:15.000
<v Speaker 8>think that I'm selective. I'm a daddy's girl, truthfully, and

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<v Speaker 8>so if they don't align.

1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>With too soon, too soon, if they don't, if.

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<v Speaker 8>They don't up my standards are like what I know

1:32:27.040 --> 1:32:28.920
<v Speaker 8>a man should be like, I'm not checking.

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<v Speaker 10>For dude, would you would you date somebody in politics

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<v Speaker 10>at this point?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think so, Like I can't be like a

1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:38.760
<v Speaker 8>first lady type. I'm looking to piss off everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to know why Angela Rodgers, because you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be president.

1:32:45.960 --> 1:32:48.880
<v Speaker 10>First, the second black female president, because we ain't getting

1:32:48.880 --> 1:32:49.280
<v Speaker 10>her killed.

1:32:49.439 --> 1:32:53.120
<v Speaker 8>So they're not my Those aren't my dreams and aspirations

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<v Speaker 8>that I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't.

1:32:54.320 --> 1:32:58.960
<v Speaker 8>We don't like the black folks wanted to be speaking,

1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:00.800
<v Speaker 8>gonna be a preacher, like that's what I feel like

1:33:00.840 --> 1:33:03.320
<v Speaker 8>because I know politics, like y'all think I'm I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>running for office.

1:33:04.439 --> 1:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And look back in nineteen ninety three when I was

1:33:08.000 --> 1:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>signing my record deal, do you think I was like, Yo,

1:33:10.680 --> 1:33:14.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be the black dox Everson of it. No,

1:33:15.439 --> 1:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we don't know. We don't know what. There you go.

1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:25.880
<v Speaker 8>They know when they dig about his footage, they're gonna

1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:28.679
<v Speaker 8>be like, we can't. Yeah, it's crazy like that ain't happening.

1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:30.920
<v Speaker 8>So I just don't want to run. I just hope

1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:32.960
<v Speaker 8>that you will receive that in your spirit. I don't

1:33:32.960 --> 1:33:34.599
<v Speaker 8>want to run. I'm not trying.

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<v Speaker 1>The angel. Am I the first person to really tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this.

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<v Speaker 9>No, there are a.

1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:45.559
<v Speaker 8>Lot of people that asked me to run all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>That's just not what I want to do. I feel

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<v Speaker 8>like there are other ways that I can have.

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<v Speaker 11>At the table president.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe that's the press. Maybe you're the press. Maybe the

1:33:55.000 --> 1:33:57.240
<v Speaker 9>president's sitting in your chair because it's not in this one.

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<v Speaker 6>That's way too much.

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<v Speaker 1>We do you think you think Zuckerberg is making a

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<v Speaker 1>go I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that a thing? I didn't hear that.

1:34:04.560 --> 1:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>He is just like doing a bunch of like present

1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:10.519
<v Speaker 2>pre president. Like he's like he put up a post

1:34:10.560 --> 1:34:12.160
<v Speaker 2>the other day and was like, yeah, I'm in Iowa,

1:34:12.720 --> 1:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>met some folks down here.

1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:19.679
<v Speaker 8>Don't trying to get to two billion Facebook users goal achieved.

1:34:19.720 --> 1:34:21.639
<v Speaker 9>Now let's see if he still does that so maybe

1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:22.559
<v Speaker 9>I'll follow you there.

1:34:24.280 --> 1:34:30.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Irey Booker, maybe maybe also Kamala, which like she's

1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:32.400
<v Speaker 8>shutting it down, so I mean, I don't know.

1:34:32.880 --> 1:34:34.400
<v Speaker 9>I don't know Kamala.

1:34:34.560 --> 1:34:36.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't want her to get hurt either though.

1:34:36.280 --> 1:34:37.960
<v Speaker 9>No, we don't want anybody to get hurt.

1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>We want no one to get hurt. And I appreciate

1:34:42.120 --> 1:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you for coming on the show today, and we've we've

1:34:47.040 --> 1:34:49.479
<v Speaker 1>been trying to make this happen for the longest I know,

1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:52.839
<v Speaker 1>So tell us where we can hear your podcast.

1:34:53.840 --> 1:34:56.599
<v Speaker 8>The podcast is called on One with a Rye and

1:34:56.640 --> 1:35:02.679
<v Speaker 8>it's on uh Apple, on I, on Spotify, on title

1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:04.520
<v Speaker 8>and SoundCloud.

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<v Speaker 1>Well down, So what do we learn today, Fronte Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned that Angela Rode is probably like I'm not

1:35:12.800 --> 1:35:15.479
<v Speaker 2>a very political person at all. Like I'm not like

1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:17.559
<v Speaker 2>a person that like checks the news all the time

1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:19.439
<v Speaker 2>and get very involved in.

1:35:19.360 --> 1:35:20.599
<v Speaker 1>The creative process.

1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean, y'all know, if you've listened to show,

1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.439
<v Speaker 2>y'all know I don't follow that shit like that, but

1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. But I do have a

1:35:26.920 --> 1:35:29.479
<v Speaker 2>respect for just really genuine people. And the thing that

1:35:29.520 --> 1:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I just met with think with you is that you have.

1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>You're very knowledgeable about your feel and you know it.

1:35:37.320 --> 1:35:40.519
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, there's something with you that

1:35:40.640 --> 1:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I think is very relatable and you're not so much

1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>like I won't say necessarily, don't say on a pedestal,

1:35:47.640 --> 1:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>but you're you're You're very relatable, which I think also

1:35:50.479 --> 1:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>lends credence to the presidential quality, which I know you

1:35:53.920 --> 1:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want, but I'm saying that I think that quality

1:35:56.160 --> 1:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>about you is something and that I don't see in

1:35:58.840 --> 1:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of your contemporaries.

1:36:00.280 --> 1:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when we were talking in the group text, we

1:36:03.320 --> 1:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>were like, yo, Andre's doing the show, I was like, Okay.

1:36:05.280 --> 1:36:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Out of a lot of people in that lane of

1:36:07.840 --> 1:36:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the new Black kind of political she's the one to

1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:13.559
<v Speaker 2>me that seems kind of the most centered, not necessarily

1:36:13.560 --> 1:36:15.559
<v Speaker 2>center in terms of the issues where you staying, but

1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:18.479
<v Speaker 2>just she's the one that seems more like yeah, like

1:36:18.880 --> 1:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>she could, she could fuck with us, and like she

1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>is a person, you know what I mean. And so nah,

1:36:24.040 --> 1:36:25.479
<v Speaker 2>just sitting down here chopping up, but you thank you

1:36:25.520 --> 1:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>for making the time. And then like, for real, boss, Bill,

1:36:28.439 --> 1:36:31.479
<v Speaker 2>what what did you learn today? I learned a lot today,

1:36:32.600 --> 1:36:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't say learned. I got reminded of a lot

1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:36.599
<v Speaker 2>of stuff that I've probably forgotten, like the impeachment process

1:36:36.640 --> 1:36:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff.

1:36:39.040 --> 1:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to.

1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:42.920
<v Speaker 13>Reiterate thank you for coming to show we like you

1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:44.200
<v Speaker 13>and I have been trying to get you here for

1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:46.280
<v Speaker 13>a while, so we were thankful, thankful that you finally

1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:46.639
<v Speaker 13>made it.

1:36:46.600 --> 1:36:47.880
<v Speaker 9>So so glad to be here.

1:36:48.280 --> 1:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Paid Bill, what'd you learn today? Bro?

1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I learned what Alderman is. I learned that in nineteen

1:36:54.479 --> 1:36:56.320
<v Speaker 4>ninety three you signed your first record deal. It was

1:36:56.320 --> 1:36:58.360
<v Speaker 4>the same year that I got bur Mitzvoot. That's important.

1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, You're like, yeah, yeah, that was a good year.

1:37:02.320 --> 1:37:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I turned it to man anyway, and uh, And I

1:37:06.400 --> 1:37:09.479
<v Speaker 4>wish that I was as knowledgeable about what I do

1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:12.640
<v Speaker 4>as ans, because it's really impressive to listen to you

1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:14.600
<v Speaker 4>speak like I'm not no no fucking around, like I

1:37:15.000 --> 1:37:16.840
<v Speaker 4>can't talk. I love what I do and I can't

1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:18.439
<v Speaker 4>talk about I think I'm good at it. Some other

1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:21.120
<v Speaker 4>people do, and I Yeah, it's really impressive.

1:37:21.240 --> 1:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>That's all. So thanks. She speaks so well.

1:37:26.360 --> 1:37:28.400
<v Speaker 9>In articulate, remember the Joe Biden moment.

1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Articulate in less than two hundred and fifty words like

1:37:33.040 --> 1:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>tell me what you learned today at a low tone.

1:37:35.960 --> 1:37:38.479
<v Speaker 6>Okay, you know I get excited movie, yes, you know

1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:39.599
<v Speaker 6>people are like Okay.

1:37:40.560 --> 1:37:41.880
<v Speaker 10>I learned a couple of things. I learned she will

1:37:41.880 --> 1:37:44.960
<v Speaker 10>not be running for president. I learned that she will

1:37:44.960 --> 1:37:48.280
<v Speaker 10>not be running for president, although I I do believe

1:37:48.280 --> 1:37:50.160
<v Speaker 10>her because what I'm hoping for in the future is

1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:51.599
<v Speaker 10>a black news network.

1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:53.479
<v Speaker 6>Somebody's got to do it. I don't know.

1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:56.960
<v Speaker 10>I just feel like angel Ro could get it done. Also,

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<v Speaker 10>I learned some great periodicals to look for for fat

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<v Speaker 10>I hope you guys took your notes. I also learned

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<v Speaker 10>that a black man is running for governor in Florida

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<v Speaker 10>and everybody should support that.

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<v Speaker 6>What's his name again so I can write it down

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<v Speaker 6>and Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Gilli And and Florida.

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<v Speaker 6>I learned what I already knew. Grow you dope, Steve.

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<v Speaker 11>I learned that that you should have your own show. Yes,

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<v Speaker 11>I've been watching it since Crossfire.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess, no, I never.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Crossfire train, learned from cross.

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<v Speaker 8>Fire and then you get Steve, know you need that time.

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<v Speaker 9>I know what I said, debated.

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<v Speaker 1>She's doing the Angela right now, what.

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<v Speaker 8>Happened was and I said, I debated my dad light

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<v Speaker 8>Crossfire growing up watching it.

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<v Speaker 9>When the new Crossfire came back, I went non seen that.

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<v Speaker 9>I was still they wout back?

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<v Speaker 1>When did the check? Right now? Your the eighties, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>try to fact check out seeing the Crossfire was like

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<v Speaker 1>when they have the panel five people. I still thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was an ongoing.

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<v Speaker 8>Thing of they brought it back, but I wasn't there yet.

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<v Speaker 8>I was still doing MSNBC anyway. Yes, Steve, we're listening

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<v Speaker 8>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Rough you down like I always do. Stand this would

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<v Speaker 1>be a great time for you to cut me off, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>as usual because I always cut Steve off on show. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I learned that she does not funck with al Morossa, and.

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<v Speaker 8>I appreciate y'all better not either. I'm gonna come for

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<v Speaker 8>you and your Twitter feeds as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I appreciate somebody again. You related like you name names,

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<v Speaker 2>you like fu, you you like the Tupaca politics speaking speak,

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<v Speaker 2>burst off?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your Twitter handle on your Instagram handles and people?

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<v Speaker 9>Twitter handle?

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<v Speaker 8>Is Angela underscore Rye Because some white girl took my

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<v Speaker 8>name before I was on She took it now it

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<v Speaker 8>was it's her real name, to be fair, but she

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<v Speaker 8>just got.

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<v Speaker 9>The handle first I did.

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<v Speaker 8>And then my Instagram handle is Angela Raie. All one

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<v Speaker 8>word right like the bread.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have sworn that, you too, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>sworn it. I gotta say your road call. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>missed the golden moment to make all the ship, all

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<v Speaker 1>the jewiness that all the things that you guys have discussed.

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<v Speaker 11>It still wasn't the worst rod call of the night though.

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<v Speaker 1>Collusion. I liked Bill's roll call. It was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>funny anyway. Damn well, you guys covered. Oh I know

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<v Speaker 1>I learned today. We learn today that Angelay single was

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<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>My thank you. Nah, I'm trying to I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be first dude in the White House. Anyway, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>and uh Fan Ticcolo and Boston Bill and once in

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<v Speaker 1>future Angela Raie, thank you, thank you for coming on

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