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Speaker 1: Welcome to QLs Classic. My name is Quest Love, your host.
Speaker 1: This particular episode of Quest Love Supreme is from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: We did this on July twelfth. We got to speak
Speaker 2: to Angela Rye.
Speaker 1: I mean, oftentimes we only get to see these micro
Speaker 1: clips of her social media as a talking head for
Speaker 1: CNN or maybe SNBC. But you know, she's a she's family,
Speaker 1: she's friend of the show. And during this time period,
Speaker 1: of course, we were like one year into that administration,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to get our way out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: But a lot of this stuff is timely, as far
Speaker 2: as her entry into I guess being an freedom fighter.
Speaker 1: If you will, so hope you enjoyed this episode. Angela. Right, well,
Speaker 1: let's classic. Let's go.
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Speaker 1: I love this woman so much that I forgot the
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Speaker 1: for the times that we live in, we've been spending
Speaker 1: a lot of this time nerding out with our favorite
Speaker 1: music acts and you know, uh, learning about music and art.
Speaker 1: We rarely do anything leaning towards politics, but I guess
Speaker 1: we'd be remiss if we weren't at least going to
Speaker 1: have one general discussion about what's going down, uh and
Speaker 1: the times we live in. And I can't think of
Speaker 1: anyone better uh to sort of tour guide us through
Speaker 1: this alternative reality we're in right now than our next guest,
Speaker 1: uh lawyer, Uh exactly in the role of the of
Speaker 1: Black Caucus. Are you the board member the.
Speaker 8: The so I serve on two of the Affiliate Organization board.
Speaker 8: So there's the CBC Pack that's a political action committee.
Speaker 9: I'm on that board.
Speaker 8: I'm also on the CBC Institute Board, and I was
Speaker 8: the CBC executive director in General Council. But I hung
Speaker 8: up my jersey sports moneypoor for you.
Speaker 1: And I'm great with sports. Yeah, because the Bill's going
Speaker 1: to call me on on that.
Speaker 10: Y on some elementarycome angel a ride to Court Love Supreme.
Speaker 1: Now what was he saying? Now?
Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, can you break down with the
Speaker 10: black CAUs does because there are people who really don't know.
Speaker 8: Sure, they're often they don't know, especially those that say,
Speaker 8: where's the Congressional White Caucus, as if the rest of
Speaker 8: the four hundred and thirty five members aren't white?
Speaker 9: I digress.
Speaker 8: So the Congressional Black Caucus is an entity that was
Speaker 8: founded in nineteen seventy one. By then, I think it
Speaker 8: was twelve members that were black in the House of Representatives,
Speaker 8: and they established the organization so that there could be
Speaker 8: a space where black people's issues were heard. They're known
Speaker 8: as the Conscience of the Congress. And now they are
Speaker 8: almost to fifty members. And of course there are two
Speaker 8: senators in the United States Senate who also serve as
Speaker 8: members of the Congressional Black Caucus. There are three black senators,
Speaker 8: but one opted not to join, Tim Scott, don't you
Speaker 8: write it down?
Speaker 1: So can I assume that most of the members of
Speaker 1: the CBC are Democrat?
Speaker 8: Yes, there is one current member of the CBC who's Republican.
Speaker 8: Her name is Mia Love. She is from Utah. My
Speaker 8: aunt that's not your aunt.
Speaker 1: Well, her last name was Love. So just so that
Speaker 1: all loves are related.
Speaker 8: My dad normally says maybe the same plantation. That's what
Speaker 8: he says today, just to be honest with you.
Speaker 9: That's what he.
Speaker 1: Says the same plantation. Yeah, has she attended meetings or.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she has been active on some issues. She definitely
Speaker 8: divergent on others, but she's been active on some issues.
Speaker 1: I see. So not why because I appreciate your your
Speaker 1: grassroots involvement and you using elbow grease and getting down
Speaker 1: and dirty, But why would you choose this particular field?
Speaker 1: I mean, you went to law school. You could have
Speaker 1: you know, you could have just.
Speaker 9: Done some other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what what truly made you? Was it
Speaker 1: following the family business or I mean in your father's
Speaker 1: footsteps as far as the community, like what most lawyers
Speaker 1: I know are thinking in terms of oh, successful by
Speaker 1: my own law firm, being a partner and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. So should we know who her father is?
Speaker 8: His name is Eddie Ryder Jr. He's an activist in Seattle.
Speaker 8: But it's actually a really interesting story. What I'll tell
Speaker 8: you is there were two other paths that I thought
Speaker 8: I would choose before I chose politics. I grew up
Speaker 8: in a house with a dad who's an activist, and
Speaker 8: I thought he was always on the opposite side of
Speaker 8: elected politics. So I hated it growing up because I
Speaker 8: couldn't understand why they didn't understand why, you know, why
Speaker 8: he was pressing pressing for, you know, or a part
Speaker 8: of the parts anti apartside movements, or you know, getting
Speaker 8: involved with ensuring that subcontractors and contractors of color had
Speaker 8: an equal share of the pie. I didn't understand why
Speaker 8: that was even an issue, right, And so growing up
Speaker 8: with him, I hated politics because they were never on
Speaker 8: his side. And it wasn't until I was in my
Speaker 8: last year, my fall semester of law school. I wanted
Speaker 8: to do an internship in Los Angeles and Maxine Waters
Speaker 8: was someone I respected a lot, and so I was like, well,
Speaker 8: if I can learn from her, you know, maybe this
Speaker 8: will be good. But I'm gonna go so that I
Speaker 8: could be a trial attorney like Johnny Coppran. I just
Speaker 8: want to get an offer at the Cochran firm. And
Speaker 8: before that, I wanted to be a sports entertainent layer.
Speaker 8: But I'll save that story for another day. It's really
Speaker 8: interesting how that happened or didn't happen. But in my
Speaker 8: I did my internship and like fell in love with
Speaker 8: the bridge between activism and politics, and there's no better
Speaker 8: bridge for that than Maxine Waters. I started calling her
Speaker 8: the Nation's congresswoman then. That was in two thousand and four,
Speaker 8: two thousand and five, and just loved working with her,
Speaker 8: loved how she made everything work together for us, regardless
Speaker 8: of if we lived in her district or not. And
Speaker 8: I did get an offer from the Cochran firm, like
Speaker 8: had a mentor Shawn Chapman Holly shout out to Shaun
Speaker 8: Chapman Holly, who's still a good friend. Had an offer
Speaker 8: with the firm, and then he died damn. And I
Speaker 8: was like, oh lord, maybe this wasn't the path. So
Speaker 8: at my the National Black Lost In Association.
Speaker 7: He died with your thousand and five Okay.
Speaker 8: At the convention, I was getting ready to introduce Congressman Waters,
Speaker 8: who came to our convention.
Speaker 9: I was like, what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 8: Johnny Conran died and She's like, I told you to
Speaker 8: go to the hell. So I was like, well, maybe
Speaker 8: y'all think about that now. And that's really the short
Speaker 8: version of how that happened. But she's never been wrong,
Speaker 8: and I'm so happy to see millennials woke about her now.
Speaker 8: But she been doing this the nation's congresswoman. Queen magazine's
Speaker 8: been doing this so at her back to it all
Speaker 8: makes sense now to why you had her back even
Speaker 8: more when that whold stupid Bill o'reiley.
Speaker 9: I think I would have had any results going through that.
Speaker 9: That was stupid.
Speaker 8: She's on the floor of the United States House of
Speaker 8: Representatives talking about what patriotism in the era of Trump
Speaker 8: really means, like it's not, you know, pledging blind allegiance
Speaker 8: to some concept. It's about standing up for what we
Speaker 8: know to be truthful and righteous. And for her to
Speaker 8: be talking about that and he's talking about it, damn
Speaker 8: James brownwig.
Speaker 9: It took me to send me to a place it's dismissive. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: among other things. Oh yeah, a lot of shit DISSI
Speaker 9: of the yes, that was very kind.
Speaker 1: Of So do you I mean, obviously, I know it's overwhelming,
Speaker 1: but just watching you in action, of course, like in
Speaker 1: the age of social media, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: familiar with you as as far as your your clips
Speaker 1: on the internet, usually going at people well and and
Speaker 1: rightfully so whenever facts are are are sprouted out. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing like when I when I watch you
Speaker 1: go against two three four people at a time, it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's baffling to me. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the equivalent of someone asking, well, you know, how
Speaker 1: do you how do you coordinate your kick drum and
Speaker 1: your high had foot and your left hand and your
Speaker 1: right hand and talk to people?
Speaker 6: You know, how are you not exhausted?
Speaker 9: I didn't say I wasn't exhausted.
Speaker 1: I did not say that, But I mean, have I mean,
Speaker 1: as I read the the era that we live in now,
Speaker 1: which is, of course, I guess, the alternative facts era
Speaker 1: in which things are said with such a straight face.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in general, a lot of us
Speaker 1: have been programmed to believe that if any information comes
Speaker 1: from someone wearing a suit and spoken in the King's English,
Speaker 1: then why should they lie to me? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: why would they want to lie to me? And usually,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of benefits of doubts are given,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing straight up false information. How I mean
Speaker 1: to me, it's like the equivalent of you playing a
Speaker 1: tennis match with five people on the other side. I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you I mean, just in this era, especially
Speaker 1: when you agreed to do pundent remarks on shows, how
Speaker 1: do you grasp your information because you have to know
Speaker 1: what they stand for and how they come. Like, do
Speaker 1: you just don't want to train you? Is it?
Speaker 8: No, I've never had media training, but I will say
Speaker 8: that I did get Crossfire training. I don't know if
Speaker 8: you all remember Crossfired, like the CNN show back in
Speaker 8: the day when it was all the old white dudes
Speaker 8: at the table.
Speaker 9: Just growing up with my dad.
Speaker 8: Now he doesn't lie, but we don't always agree on
Speaker 8: the means to an end goal. So growing up like
Speaker 8: just debating him or you know, talking to my friends,
Speaker 8: or debating race issues, like I went to a majority
Speaker 8: white high school, you know, started a black student union,
Speaker 8: and so you get used to having to explain to
Speaker 8: people your perspective because it's not the majority view. So
Speaker 8: whether or not this is this may be an alternate universe,
Speaker 8: but it's still not the majority view on the panel.
Speaker 9: So it's just debating. The problem I have, and I think.
Speaker 8: When people see me get really upset is when I
Speaker 8: remember the responsibility that we have to give people factual information.
Speaker 8: And I think the frustration that I have, if nothing
Speaker 8: else right now, is being able to speak to people
Speaker 8: in their homes on their TV screens is an awesome privilege,
Speaker 8: and we have an obligation to give them information they
Speaker 8: can rely upon, and so I'll normally lose it, especially
Speaker 8: on like black networks, like on TV one, if I'm
Speaker 8: on Rolling show and somebody's lying, I flip out, like
Speaker 8: there's been you know, jiff or gift depending on how
Speaker 8: you said jiffable moments just from that, like please don't
Speaker 8: come here and lie to our folks. Not that folks
Speaker 8: should be lied to unseen in either, but I just
Speaker 8: think that there's a different type of responsibility and even
Speaker 8: with seeing it, and I think it is really hard
Speaker 8: because I remember one of the debates during the general election,
Speaker 8: the Debate Commission decided that the moderator did not have
Speaker 8: an obligation to fact check the candidates, and I lost it.
Speaker 9: I was like, what do you mean, Like, that's your only.
Speaker 8: Responsibility besides asking the questions like you have one job
Speaker 8: or two? You know one a in one, b like
Speaker 8: all in one, but you have something what do you
Speaker 8: mean Like, of course you have to make sure that
Speaker 8: they're being like what are you debating? Then if facts
Speaker 8: become a debatable point and not just the perspectives on
Speaker 8: those facts, that is a new challenge, and so I do.
Speaker 8: I find it immensely frustrating because I don't understand how
Speaker 8: someone could be deemed credible at all if they're not
Speaker 8: relying on the same principle of truth. You know, it's
Speaker 8: just it's maddening. It really, it really really is. And
Speaker 8: so to me, I just think that the energy I
Speaker 8: take into those spaces is if you're not going to
Speaker 8: be told the truth from anyone else, you're going to
Speaker 8: hear it from me. And if I'm ever if I
Speaker 8: ever misspeak on something, if a stat is wrong, you know,
Speaker 8: if I said a word wrong, I'll fact check it
Speaker 8: later on Twitter. But I'm not gonna lie to people.
Speaker 8: Intentionally deceiving them like that is just wrong. And that's
Speaker 8: just kind of where I draw the line.
Speaker 1: Now as of this particular taping. Right now, the healthcare
Speaker 1: situation is in the hands of the Senate, and I'm
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of them. I guess at one point
Speaker 1: on Twitter there were at least three or four of
Speaker 1: them that tweeted out or gave interviews sort of to
Speaker 1: the tune of you know, you're saying that you know
Speaker 1: that twenty two million people might lose their insurance or
Speaker 1: and this several hundred thousand might die if this law
Speaker 1: goes and you know that was that was not a
Speaker 1: good conversation point to sway them the other way. But
Speaker 1: I mean, what is for those? Because I have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends who are so overwhelmed with what's going
Speaker 1: on that now my friends are at the point where
Speaker 1: they're just so not even past the point of indifference,
Speaker 1: but just so overwhelmed that they don't watch the news
Speaker 1: at all. And these are the ones who are generally
Speaker 1: on my side of the fence. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: can't sleep at night unless I at least watch an
Speaker 1: hour or two of at least Rachel's show or someone
Speaker 1: that I know that's going to give me straight up facts.
Speaker 1: But how do you how do we reignite uh people
Speaker 1: or a community of people that just feel like it's
Speaker 1: it's no use? Yeah, no use? I started. God, have
Speaker 1: you guys heard of a handmaid Handmaid's Tale?
Speaker 6: I haven't watched it yet? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you watched it?
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it, but I know it's.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard the future really sad?
Speaker 1: Like if you yeah, if you think that like a
Speaker 1: House of Cards or you know, whatever is being depicted
Speaker 1: now in television as don't hamming. It almost feels like
Speaker 1: this is that's where it's going to go to. Okay,
Speaker 1: I checked that. I haven't even watched. I gave up
Speaker 1: on House of Cards, like I just because.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 6: Right. Yeah, I don't know how they did that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I l like weight blame House of Cards?
Speaker 1: Actually right, all of it inic.
Speaker 7: Not just.
Speaker 8: I need to find somebody to blame because this makes
Speaker 8: no senseides besides old lad like I just I gotta
Speaker 8: I don't know, don't happen.
Speaker 6: On the hills of what Amra said.
Speaker 10: And on that note, how do you prioritize the issues
Speaker 10: that should you should be most caring about? Because yes,
Speaker 10: health care is the issue right now, but there are
Speaker 10: numerous issues that you know, our president right now and
Speaker 10: his Congress are about to fuck up life with.
Speaker 6: So how do you do that, Angela?
Speaker 8: How do you prioritize so first that y'all's president, that's
Speaker 8: not so No. So I think that that's a really
Speaker 8: really good question. And what I appreciate about it is
Speaker 8: I get so frustrated with whether they're elected officials, they
Speaker 8: are sitting members of Congress right now who will say, well,
Speaker 8: we don't need to be talking about Russia because what
Speaker 8: people really want to know about is their healthcare. What
Speaker 8: people really want to know about is you know where
Speaker 8: the next job is going to come from the economy.
Speaker 8: But here's that's right, and if so, if we're honest,
Speaker 8: every single day, all of us are responsible for balancing
Speaker 8: something mer we were talking about your time earlier, like
Speaker 8: we're responsible for balancing some things. We are people who
Speaker 8: can walk into gum at the same time and be okay.
Speaker 8: So it's actually okay for us to try to get
Speaker 8: to the bottom of what happened with Russia and how
Speaker 8: they ended up in several you know polls, you know, precincts,
Speaker 8: messing with stuff. You know, that's important for us to
Speaker 8: understand because over time, if if countries, if entities can
Speaker 8: continue to uh interrupt and disrupt our democracy the ways
Speaker 8: in which we engage in the electoral process, people are
Speaker 8: going to become disillusioned with that. That is very very
Speaker 8: very dangerous. That's exactly right. That means a select you
Speaker 8: are picking your your leaders. And what happens is this
Speaker 8: healthcare bill to bring this back full circle, which is
Speaker 8: you know, very toxic. It is a you know it's
Speaker 8: it's a tax cut for billionaires. You know, it is
Speaker 8: a way of One of the Senate compromises that came about.
Speaker 9: Yesterday was okay, well we'll just uh.
Speaker 8: We'll reinstitute the mandatory health care you have to sign
Speaker 8: up mandatorily. But what we're going to do is if
Speaker 8: there's a lapse in your health care, then there's gonna
Speaker 8: be a six month window for you to get healthcare. Again,
Speaker 8: what happens if something happens to you six in those
Speaker 8: six months and you can't afford to pay for health
Speaker 8: care out of pocket, that's not a compromise. And if
Speaker 8: it's a compromise, who is it on the backs of?
Speaker 8: And those are folks who normally look like us, if
Speaker 8: they're underserved and marginalized communities, black and brown communities.
Speaker 9: We have to pay attention.
Speaker 8: And if so, if there's nothing else that I hope
Speaker 8: comes out of this treacherous, dangerous, awful time, it is
Speaker 8: that I hope we really lies that these people are
Speaker 8: working for us. And I use this analogy on a
Speaker 8: panel the other day. There's not a single one of
Speaker 8: us who, if we are employing people, just are like, Okay,
Speaker 8: we're gonna pay you. You go and do whatever and
Speaker 8: never check in. There's a team call, there's a team meeting,
Speaker 8: there's an agenda, there's some type of metrics for accountability
Speaker 8: where they have to check in with us. We pay
Speaker 8: these people, They owe us answers, they owe us to
Speaker 8: do the right thing. I think it's town halls, and
Speaker 8: the town halls aren't even enough. And people are starting
Speaker 8: to show up town halls, but even that's not enough.
Speaker 8: We need to be checking them on what they're doing.
Speaker 8: What they're doing impacts us more in some instances than
Speaker 8: the employees that we that we that we have.
Speaker 1: So can I ask you, and I know as a
Speaker 1: lawyer that you're not supposed to speculate, but with the
Speaker 1: Russia issue, break it down to me, Like I'm a
Speaker 1: six year old, why don't we go to show At first,
Speaker 1: I was like eight six, eight, let me go six
Speaker 1: and six. Just say collusion a lot? What is your
Speaker 1: belief And you're you're connected to a lot of those,
Speaker 1: a lot of people in politics that we're not getting.
Speaker 1: What is your belief on what happened? Now? What I'm
Speaker 1: thinking the narrative is, especially in light of uh Trump
Speaker 1: even slightly admitting that there was. I was shocked that
Speaker 1: he even admitted about collusion or you know, Russ's involvement,
Speaker 1: because before it's just straight up denial, like we don't
Speaker 1: know if they're doing China could be doing, not us.
Speaker 1: But what is I believe that he was trying to
Speaker 1: position himself in terms of if it did happen, I
Speaker 1: know nothing about it. I have no clue. What is
Speaker 1: your belief because now I'm even hearing theories of like, well,
Speaker 1: Russia paid off a lot of members in Senate, the
Speaker 1: devil in Congress. No, how far does this stretch?
Speaker 8: So I don't I don't want to speculate, but here's
Speaker 8: what I would Here's what I would do.
Speaker 1: How safe can you go to the deep waters? Explained
Speaker 1: to us what I.
Speaker 8: Think I can go safe because I have a security clearance,
Speaker 8: but it's not active since I left the Homeland Security Committee,
Speaker 8: So I'm good. I'm not relying on any actionable intelligence. Russia, okay,
Speaker 8: because they're gonna be trying to hack somebody really did
Speaker 8: in real life they hacked into my Amtrak thing.
Speaker 9: But I will talk about that another time.
Speaker 10: No, we're going to talk about that at some point
Speaker 10: to hear because I want to know how our pro.
Speaker 9: Time mail account.
Speaker 6: I was like, what email?
Speaker 9: I have a PROTI but that's not mine. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 9: We'll talk about we.
Speaker 1: Got to a car home anyway.
Speaker 9: So here's what I would ask.
Speaker 8: I think that it's very important that, of course there
Speaker 8: is this special prosecutor that was appointed, but there also
Speaker 8: should be ongoing investigations on the part of the House,
Speaker 8: in the Senate, those are happening. Why isn't there a
Speaker 8: special independent commission stood up to look into this? If
Speaker 8: we know that potentially members are compromised, or potentially they
Speaker 8: can be blinded by their own political beliefs, why not
Speaker 8: stand up in independent commissions to get.
Speaker 9: To the bottom of the following one?
Speaker 8: Why would Donald Trump not release his tax returns even
Speaker 8: during the campaign. I think that if we're going to
Speaker 8: have a transparent government, it needs to start from the
Speaker 8: very beginning, so from the outset right. Problems began to
Speaker 8: percolate during the campaign, So release the tax returns, really
Speaker 8: look in at them to see if there's any debts
Speaker 8: oh to Russia or any other foreign entities for that
Speaker 8: matter that may have close ties to Russia. I think
Speaker 8: the second thing to understand is who are all the players,
Speaker 8: both from the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team,
Speaker 8: who had any active involvement with Russian officials, Russian allies,
Speaker 8: Russian businessmen, going from Paul Mannifort to Mike Pence. The
Speaker 8: reason why Mike Pence recently had to lawyer up is
Speaker 8: because he oversaw the entire transition team.
Speaker 9: For those of you that don't know what a transition team.
Speaker 8: Is, that is literally the body that is created to
Speaker 8: transition from one presidential administration to another. So right after
Speaker 8: the campaign they stand that up. I think the third
Speaker 8: thing is understanding whether or not there were any past
Speaker 8: dealings with Russia from a business standpoint or a personal standpoint.
Speaker 8: There were a couple of things that Donald Trump did
Speaker 8: on the campaign trail that should cause alarm. One, he
Speaker 8: encouraged them to hack into Hillary Clinton's emails that nobody
Speaker 8: could find at a press conference, so it's not like
Speaker 8: this is a secret. And I can't remember the second
Speaker 8: thing because it's been that kind of day.
Speaker 9: I know it.
Speaker 8: Else, there was another point, and actually this wasn't during
Speaker 8: the campaign, but there was another point where he talked
Speaker 8: about No, he actually did this on the debate stage
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 9: He talked about he would probably.
Speaker 8: Get along very well with Vladimir Putin, so sending some
Speaker 8: type of signal, and I don't know what that signaling was,
Speaker 8: but I think shortly thereafter right there was this, you know,
Speaker 8: from FBI Director Comy, there's a new investigation happening into
Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton's emails.
Speaker 9: That's two weeks before the election.
Speaker 8: Why did FBI Director Comy feel like he needed to
Speaker 8: do that if he originally thought that the actions taken
Speaker 8: by Loretta Lynch were a bridge too far just by
Speaker 8: sitting on the tarmac with Bill Clinton.
Speaker 9: So there are all of these questions that are very fuzzy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my guess is maybe he was being blackmailed
Speaker 1: or maybe and.
Speaker 9: I don't want to that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I tell you what your questions are.
Speaker 10: But do y'all know that today I'm sorry, I watched
Speaker 10: the news today said his approval rating in Russia is
Speaker 10: like forty four percent here and Russia and I forget
Speaker 10: the other country, but it's both not our friends.
Speaker 6: But I just thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 11: That's your approval rating here among us, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the fuzzy Mike, I.
Speaker 7: Thank you, who.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry believe.
Speaker 8: But no, I just think that there are a number
Speaker 8: of questions, and I think that what we could urge
Speaker 8: the listeners, the American people to do is until those
Speaker 8: baseline questions are answered, Like you just have to keep
Speaker 8: pressing to ensure that we get to the bottom of
Speaker 8: those truths. They're just too important and the answers could
Speaker 8: be tremendously detrimental to the democracy. If we know there
Speaker 8: was interference in the election, what motivated that interference?
Speaker 9: Why wouldrush to.
Speaker 8: Choose to interfere in this particular election when we know
Speaker 8: from uh, from from intelligence that I think has now
Speaker 8: been shared that Russia did not like Hillary Clinton, right,
Speaker 8: So I just I think there are so many problems
Speaker 8: with this. It's it truly is a movie. Like as
Speaker 8: soon as he's done, hopefully in one more year, because
Speaker 8: he'll get impeached, that's my prayer.
Speaker 6: You don't want that. But because if he gets impeached,
Speaker 6: then we get pissed.
Speaker 8: I think because he lawyered up because whatever was happening
Speaker 8: with Mike Flynn, he had to know about it at
Speaker 8: the transition. So then we have Paul Ryan, who I
Speaker 8: still prefer because he's had he can he can spell
Speaker 8: right on a tweet.
Speaker 9: You know, and I and I don't like Paul Ryan.
Speaker 8: But what I will tell you is someone who came
Speaker 8: from the Hill at a time when Republicans and Democrats
Speaker 8: could at least talk to each other and find some
Speaker 8: type of common ground, find some way to negotiate. I
Speaker 8: would prefer someone who's got some type of sense.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ has to Yes.
Speaker 8: Let me tell you how bad it is. I want
Speaker 8: to take a selfie with George W.
Speaker 9: Bush. That's how.
Speaker 6: They make the Super.
Speaker 8: Bowl Like, oh, but you know what, there's something to
Speaker 8: that too, because if we think about what happened in
Speaker 8: two thousand with that Florida recount, it all really started there.
Speaker 8: You cannot continue to rob people of their electoral power.
Speaker 8: You can't continue to say one person, one vote, And
Speaker 8: there's this electoral college system that frankly is rooted in
Speaker 8: slavery and think that over time people are going to
Speaker 8: be fine with that. We also, on the other hand,
Speaker 8: can't be lulled to sleep by that. Like, if a
Speaker 8: system doesn't work for us, and it is a democracy,
Speaker 8: we need to change it.
Speaker 6: But which call do you make?
Speaker 10: It's like you need to change that, No, it's not
Speaker 10: just which there are all of them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you build a nation on racism and oppression,
Speaker 8: nothing is working.
Speaker 1: So what are effective especially in terms of how easy
Speaker 1: it is to hack? Right now?
Speaker 2: By the way, what happened to Anonymous? I heard Anonymous?
Speaker 2: Are they alive?
Speaker 1: Like? I almost feel as though what was anonymous Anonymous
Speaker 1: was like they were like a group of hackers, hackers
Speaker 1: that were kind of on our side. They were like
Speaker 1: the occupied Wall Street of hackers.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I heard they got infiltrated by the
Speaker 2: fares though, like the robot.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, or maybe Vladimiritu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna say. But what would in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: what are effective voting options?
Speaker 6: If no electoral college, if we don't have it, well.
Speaker 1: What would the idea scenario of voting be for the
Speaker 1: times we live in now?
Speaker 6: Popular vote?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 8: So no, I think popular vote would be ideal. But
Speaker 8: I think there's a middle road, and that would be
Speaker 8: proportional representation in the electoral college. It shouldn't be winner
Speaker 8: take all. That's not a one person, one vote strategy.
Speaker 8: And there's a nonprofit that's been pushing legislation through state legislatures.
Speaker 8: You know that you all know that's one of the
Speaker 8: ways that you can change the constitution, and the legislation
Speaker 8: is just is very simple.
Speaker 10: It's just did not know that. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 10: because somebody out there is listening. They're like, I don't know, No,
Speaker 10: I did not know that.
Speaker 8: Okay, that's good, look up more information on the internet.
Speaker 8: But basically there's all not for you. I'm just saying
Speaker 8: I'm not to get in all that. It doesn't even
Speaker 8: I'll tell you when.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that a big words, just like, wait, okay,
Speaker 1: any any information that you think might be a little
Speaker 1: too lengthy, whatever, just say it. Okay, trust we got time.
Speaker 9: So No, I just think.
Speaker 11: Is down to.
Speaker 9: She was doing it for the people. I did it
Speaker 9: by the culture.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 8: But I think that what they've done is very good
Speaker 8: because they're pushing these measures through state legislatures that say,
Speaker 8: proportional representation is how we should be utilizing the electoral college.
Speaker 8: It shouldn't be that if you won this state by
Speaker 8: fifty one percent, you get all of the electoral college.
Speaker 8: It doesn't it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: Transfer question, how does he actually get impeached? I feel like,
Speaker 4: how much crazy? Shi it has to go on over
Speaker 4: the next year, you would hope for him actually to
Speaker 4: get impeached.
Speaker 8: Can I just say that if this was Barack Obama,
Speaker 8: he would have been impeached.
Speaker 1: Yea, would goddamn ticket.
Speaker 10: Yeah, when you when you said when you were arguing
Speaker 10: with that dude, did you talk to about being a
Speaker 10: bigger or whatever you were like if you were like
Speaker 10: if Obama had five baby mamas and Obama had did
Speaker 10: on grabed chicks coo cheese, white chicks, coo cheese, like
Speaker 10: this would never ever, That's just that, that's just the
Speaker 10: just siritated.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but get peached. Yeah, I'm sorry, Fine, but.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Someone will have to lose their life. But I don't even.
Speaker 12: Shot somebody on Yeah, the video the p videos got
Speaker 12: a surface.
Speaker 9: Kelly from Podunk.
Speaker 8: They will be like, well, I wish you would have
Speaker 8: paid read what.
Speaker 2: Is the what is the process of impeachment? Like do
Speaker 2: you know that if you can't just break it down?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's so that's not a breakdownable thing. But I'll try.
Speaker 8: I'll try. I think I think one of the one
Speaker 8: of the things that's immediately before us is what's happening
Speaker 8: with the special prosecutor. So if the president were to
Speaker 8: be fine to have broken the law, that's something that's impeachable.
Speaker 8: We still need the Congress to act on that. And
Speaker 8: I think the challenge for us is in normal times,
Speaker 8: Republicans and Democrats could lay party aside to do the
Speaker 8: right thing.
Speaker 1: So is Congress just turning a blind eye because they
Speaker 1: don't want they don't want the stain of it's gonna
Speaker 1: make Republicans look bad and will never be trusted.
Speaker 8: In one example all of that, Paul Ryan said the
Speaker 8: other day, well, you know he's new, Yeah, what are
Speaker 8: you talking about?
Speaker 9: Willis like anyway.
Speaker 8: So the point is that there are several things that
Speaker 8: could be deemed impeachable offenses. And if he were to
Speaker 8: have found to be found to have obstructed justice with
Speaker 8: FBI director come or something else surfaces, that's an impeachable offense.
Speaker 8: I think Democrats would begin to really hunker down on
Speaker 8: calling for his impeachment and Republicans that have to make
Speaker 8: a game time decision about doing the right thing, and
Speaker 8: right now that's been tough. Like even for example, John McCain,
Speaker 8: who's normally deemed maverick, decided to take on Kamala Harrison
Speaker 8: in the middle of her questions instead of what that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that was just that was not just
Speaker 4: what there was racist. It was all the in a row,
Speaker 4: like however you can do.
Speaker 8: That is what Donald Trump is in essence, though, isn't
Speaker 8: Yeah every day on Twitter talking about Barack Obama colluding
Speaker 8: with the Russians instead of the.
Speaker 1: Fact with perfect grammar that time.
Speaker 8: When he said unprecedented though, yeah, not precedented.
Speaker 2: I don't ever misunderstand. That's my intelligence.
Speaker 1: It was Mary.
Speaker 6: Can we not throw Mary Ato?
Speaker 1: I love Mary?
Speaker 9: Because kind did her wrong day.
Speaker 1: Don't talk about it back the other day though? Was
Speaker 1: that new or old?
Speaker 9: That was that's new?
Speaker 6: That's b e t.
Speaker 8: The BT Awards, trying to steal her.
Speaker 1: He went under her Instagram. He's like, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: praised the album.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, and but yeah, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know why you chose.
Speaker 9: Are you doing? We should talk?
Speaker 8: Boy?
Speaker 9: Good night?
Speaker 6: You missing the fame? Boo, you're missing it?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 8: No, he wants that bigger alimony check anyway, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I love that so uh well. At least another question
Speaker 1: is I heard that perhaps a movement or a migration
Speaker 1: to Red States or red territories might be in order,
Speaker 1: but well that really for instance, what happened in Georgia,
Speaker 1: uh with the with the good question is that will
Speaker 1: that be an effective solution?
Speaker 2: Like, well, more democrats movies, some of us have to yeah,
Speaker 2: move to going back to Indiana.
Speaker 9: You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 8: What frustrates me is it doesn't even require mass migration,
Speaker 8: Like we have enough people. There are over five hundred
Speaker 8: thousand unregistered black folks in Georgia, unregistered voters. Yeah, we
Speaker 8: could change an election with five hundred thousand unregistered voters.
Speaker 6: How do you think that is?
Speaker 9: I think that people.
Speaker 8: Feel, like rightfully so that over time, democracy for everyone
Speaker 8: else has not been democracy for us. That like we
Speaker 8: just talked about a system of racism and oppression, doesn't
Speaker 8: serve them, a police department that shoots and kills.
Speaker 9: Rather than protects and serves.
Speaker 8: There's so many reasons why people don't feel like the
Speaker 8: system has worked for them.
Speaker 9: Nevertheless, it's the system we have.
Speaker 8: You know, until we work to perfect it, it's gonna
Speaker 8: be the same broken mess. And so we're in, I
Speaker 8: think a very dangerous cycle where we say, well, it
Speaker 8: hasn't worked for us, so I'm not gonna go work
Speaker 8: for it, but it's never gonna work for us unless
Speaker 8: we work for it. We have to fix it. And
Speaker 8: some of that change comes internally, Like you know, people
Speaker 8: are always like, oh, you should run for office, you know,
Speaker 8: but I'm like, that's not my calling. I'm happy to
Speaker 8: help other people figure out how to be equipped to
Speaker 8: run and all of that. But people also have to
Speaker 8: lean into that idea, and so often we don't and don't.
Speaker 10: Arnt you involved with a couple of packs that are
Speaker 10: raising young African American like politicians.
Speaker 8: One of my favorite packs right now is Collective Pack
Speaker 8: founded by two friends, Stephanie Brown James and Quinton James,
Speaker 8: and they're doing marvelous work. They just have their first
Speaker 8: training of African American young folks who want to run
Speaker 8: for office at Howard University last week.
Speaker 9: Doing great work, doing great work, And.
Speaker 8: So yes, I thought, those are some of the ways
Speaker 8: that we can get back with our time, our talent,
Speaker 8: and our treasure.
Speaker 9: Another church analogy.
Speaker 2: Break down exactly what a pack is and what it does.
Speaker 8: Sure, a political action committee is an entity that is
Speaker 8: charged with raising money and it's not tied to any
Speaker 8: specific campaign per se. There are some entities that are
Speaker 8: you know, direct to candidate or their leadership packs.
Speaker 9: But a pack is an.
Speaker 8: Entity that you stand up to raise money, to help
Speaker 8: train people up to endorse candidates.
Speaker 1: But what's it really used for?
Speaker 9: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Well, not that's what it's supposed to be. But how
Speaker 1: is it being I wanted people to know how it's
Speaker 1: being abused?
Speaker 8: Oh okay, well in some instances, Uh, there are a
Speaker 8: number of.
Speaker 9: Packs that are steed up, especially super PACs.
Speaker 8: That are just used to kind of farm out ads, advertisements,
Speaker 8: political ads.
Speaker 10: Brothers, a lot of people like the Koch brothers and
Speaker 10: their impacts and stuff, and well.
Speaker 8: And even if it's not affiliated with the Kochs, there
Speaker 8: are entities on the Democratic side of the that use.
Speaker 9: Frankly, just to be competitive.
Speaker 8: This Georgia race cost fifty million dollars, you know, and
Speaker 8: a lot of times.
Speaker 1: Are there power brokers and Democrats because besides Bill Bill
Speaker 1: mar there I say it, he gives this obligatory two
Speaker 1: million a year in Spielberg and Harvey Woods, Harvey Weinstein
Speaker 1: does his little five million, like where are our Cooke brothers?
Speaker 8: You know, the Moss is one. What's the other guy's named?
Speaker 8: This and involved in kind of green energy. I can't
Speaker 8: think of his name right now, but there are there
Speaker 8: are some, and I.
Speaker 1: Didn't know that everyone looked like a.
Speaker 8: Definitely, they're definitely more on the Republican side of the aisle.
Speaker 8: But the other problem that we have is that too
Speaker 8: often money spent in races or even with political action
Speaker 8: committees are used on vendors, and they're vendors who don't
Speaker 8: know how to reach We talked about that five hundred thousand.
Speaker 9: Cohort in Georgia.
Speaker 8: If you're hiring all white vendors, all white male vendors
Speaker 8: who all work together on the same campaign, you're not
Speaker 8: reaching a new audience. You're reaching the same people. That's
Speaker 8: why you can't win. When you look at the candidate
Speaker 8: recruitment strategy, whether it's at the D Triple C, which
Speaker 8: is the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, there's a Citate version
Speaker 8: of that. You know, there's the Democratic Governors Association, you're
Speaker 8: not looking at black and brown and Asian candidates who
Speaker 8: can run not just in congressional districts but also statewide.
Speaker 8: I have a good friend of mine who's running for
Speaker 8: governor in Florida, Andrew Gillam who is the mayor of
Speaker 8: tallahassee right now on the leaked email from Hillary Clinton's campaign,
Speaker 8: was on the on the short list for a potential
Speaker 8: VP pick. It's being slept on right now by DGA
Speaker 8: and others. You know, And this is a young black
Speaker 8: guy that's doing things completely different.
Speaker 6: Does he have a chance, I mean Florida, he does
Speaker 6: have a chance.
Speaker 8: He raised a million dollars in the first three months
Speaker 8: of his campaign. Okay, absolutely say his name again, So everybody,
Speaker 8: Andrew Gilliam, thank you, okay, and so okay.
Speaker 1: So that leads me to the question of how do
Speaker 1: you reach people? Now, I'll say that a lot of
Speaker 1: my a lot of my political involvement came at sort
Speaker 1: of like the tail end of two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: back when there was a glimmer of hope that oh god, okay,
Speaker 1: this could really happen for us. And of course, you know,
Speaker 1: Obama also benefited from really using the Internet to his
Speaker 1: advantage and reaching people. So now as we stand ten
Speaker 1: years later, I get a lot of panic emails from
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and you know, like just the the usual characters,
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of times it's just like
Speaker 1: I feel guilty from working in suspam because I do. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: you know, but you see you see the subject line
Speaker 1: is Nancy Pelosi, we need you amor no. That that
Speaker 1: was like two thirteen. That was just like nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: nigga cooking up fans. I can't wait. One Pelosi email
Speaker 1: got me good, and I was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll let me get my and I did it again,
Speaker 1: and already it was like, well, you're already a monthly contributor.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't realize, like Jesus Christ, I'm already a
Speaker 1: month Oh you got to direct like that.
Speaker 8: What if they weren't even if you weren't monthly and
Speaker 8: they just told you that that would be funny.
Speaker 1: I know. But still, well that also leads to it's
Speaker 1: this might be blasphemous say it. Do you feel that
Speaker 1: we might need a change and leadership?
Speaker 8: Yes, So here's what I will tell you. She as
Speaker 8: a leader, she's been very effective. The reason why Nancy
Speaker 8: Pelosi is still the Democratic leader is because she knows
Speaker 8: how to raise money better than anybody else. And that's
Speaker 8: a money raising job. Maybe it shouldn't be, but that's
Speaker 8: what it is. Right now, what I'll.
Speaker 9: Tell you is.
Speaker 8: There are several things that we need and that is
Speaker 8: not the top of where I would start.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 8: Just for an example, the DNC just had kind of
Speaker 8: a massive overhaul after the camp paign. We know that
Speaker 8: Donna Brazil is filling in as an interim chair, just
Speaker 8: like completely crushed it. She did so much that people
Speaker 8: don't know. But just wait, I'm sure she will release
Speaker 8: a book and seriously, and then now you have Tom
Speaker 8: Perez who's heading up the DNC, my friend Michael Blake
Speaker 8: who's a vice chair at the DNC. Two people of
Speaker 8: color at the top, and before Donna Brazil, we hadn't
Speaker 8: had that since Ron Brown, you know, like I mean,
Speaker 8: it's it's been it's been a while, right, And of
Speaker 8: course Donna Brazil had been vice chair, but not at
Speaker 8: the top. So my thing to you would be, we
Speaker 8: first need to ensure that the party writ large is okay,
Speaker 8: who are the state party chairs? How are they serving
Speaker 8: the communities that they're supposed to be? You know, this
Speaker 8: big tent, this idea of a big tent, how is
Speaker 8: the tent enlarging under these state parties chairs?
Speaker 6: Leadership?
Speaker 9: Nancy Pelosi is is in politics?
Speaker 8: We have a messaging strategy called the boogeyman strategy. Right,
Speaker 8: it's the boogeyman approach. Nancy Pelosi is the boogeyman. And
Speaker 8: the reason why they went back to that approach most
Speaker 8: recently in this special election in Georgia is because it worked.
Speaker 8: When Michael Steele was chairman of the RNC, they had
Speaker 8: the fire Pelosi pins.
Speaker 9: It worked very well.
Speaker 8: Part of what you should interpret from that is that,
Speaker 8: more than anything else in this country where people really
Speaker 8: bond is the fear of women in leadership. It's not
Speaker 8: about I'm just being honest with you. It's not about
Speaker 8: Nancy Pelosi in the job she's doing. We could ask
Speaker 8: all these people why we should get rid of Nancy
Speaker 8: Pelosi and they wouldn't be able to give you a
Speaker 8: reason because she'd been there a long time. Okay, so
Speaker 8: was Harry Reid until he just retired. So was everybody
Speaker 8: else in democratic leadership. So what is the real issue?
Speaker 8: And I think the real issue is she's this liberal,
Speaker 8: this uber liberal from California, and she's a woman. And
Speaker 8: that is partially for Hillary Clinton. The woman issue us
Speaker 8: her big problem. People can understand why evangelicals during the
Speaker 8: campaign were flocking towards towards koochie grabbing Donald Trump. And
Speaker 8: the reason for that is, more than anything else. In
Speaker 8: the church, you're taught that a woman cannot be the
Speaker 8: head of a household. She definitely ain't about to be
Speaker 8: your pastor, and so she is not going.
Speaker 9: To be your commander in chief.
Speaker 8: So Nancy Pelosi at the top of the house scares people,
Speaker 8: and to some of them, it is like it's out
Speaker 8: of order, you know, like a woman is not supposed
Speaker 8: to have that role. We're so ass backwards in this country.
Speaker 8: But anyway, I'm just telling you, I don't I wouldn't
Speaker 8: mind if Nancy Pelosi decided to retire. I just did
Speaker 8: not for it on those things like what is the
Speaker 8: real reason why they're pushing for her retirement when they
Speaker 8: literally don't know the role of a democratic leader. Why
Speaker 8: aren't you talking about the DNC and figuring out how to
Speaker 8: help us identify who we really are? Why are we
Speaker 8: not talking about you know, the fact that the white
Speaker 8: working class issues are the same as black and brown
Speaker 8: and Asian folks. Working class issues like those are the
Speaker 8: issues we should.
Speaker 9: Be focused on, not damn Nancy.
Speaker 1: Pelosi when you speak of they and wanting Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: out of there? Are you speaking of fellow Democrats?
Speaker 8: There are some, I think there are There are a
Speaker 8: few who for example, you know, Tim Ryan ran against
Speaker 8: her in the leadership elections.
Speaker 9: This time.
Speaker 8: Of course, Tim Ryan goes on air on I think
Speaker 8: it was Don le Min Show last week, was like, yeah,
Speaker 8: we need change.
Speaker 9: Of course you said it, Yeah, you wanted to be
Speaker 9: the change.
Speaker 8: And how much is how much change would that be
Speaker 8: to go back to a white man in leadership?
Speaker 9: You know, I mean a less So it's I don't know.
Speaker 8: To me, it's like it's time for us to shake
Speaker 8: up how we perceive leadership. I would love to see
Speaker 8: more people of color in those roles, but that's not it,
Speaker 8: you know. And I don't think that Nancy Pelosi always
Speaker 8: gets it right. But I don't think the answer is
Speaker 8: to put another white man in charge.
Speaker 1: Wow, and you said it. What I want to know
Speaker 1: is with entertainers usually seen as the go to, I mean,
Speaker 1: we now live in a time in which you know,
Speaker 1: little Yachty might have more excuse the collective colective eyebrow shut.
Speaker 6: I could do a Joe Blade walk.
Speaker 1: If the collective eyebrow look at me was like, but
Speaker 1: I mean, this is where we are, as where our
Speaker 1: kids are, where we are where you know, entertainers have
Speaker 1: more collateral and and say and you know than someone
Speaker 1: with or perceived as someone would sense. So that said, uh,
Speaker 1: how can we how do we utilize those who are
Speaker 1: listened to? Is there going to have to be a
Speaker 1: reach across the aisle?
Speaker 6: How do we shut up a little?
Speaker 9: Wayne?
Speaker 1: Just in case I don't even think he's a factor anymore.
Speaker 6: I mean every once and again, I mean.
Speaker 1: It happened, yeah, but his time was ten years ago,
Speaker 1: like now it's it's it's the old Wayne. Yes, migos could.
Speaker 7: Say, get you.
Speaker 1: Well, look now, uh, jay Z's new direction with four
Speaker 1: forty four is leaning politically heavier than he's ever ever
Speaker 1: ever been. How effective will that be as far as
Speaker 1: getting people? Because you know, again it's who do they
Speaker 1: call on to get people to the polls? They Hillary
Speaker 1: called on, Gaga called on Katy Perry called on well.
Speaker 8: Maybe to be fair working popular vote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again again, like the numbers of the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen election are still up in the air because in
Speaker 1: the perfect world, did she win, you know, like we
Speaker 1: don't know popular vote, right, so thus how effective is that?
Speaker 8: Well, I want to push back on that idea a
Speaker 8: little bit. I think that there was a time, you know,
Speaker 8: in particular in two thousand and eight, where entertainers had
Speaker 8: all the gravitas to push every GOOTV Get out the
Speaker 8: Vote initiative and people did rely on them. And then
Speaker 8: Twitter happened, and then Instagram happened, and then Snapchat happened.
Speaker 8: And what has happened is platforms like these have democratized
Speaker 8: voices so that you don't necessarily have to be Jay
Speaker 8: Z or Beyonce or Gaga to mobilize audiences.
Speaker 9: You can mobilize your own.
Speaker 8: And while it may not be on the same level,
Speaker 8: there are still folks that have millions of followers for
Speaker 8: drawing on a mean eyebrow, you know, on YouTube, and
Speaker 8: so I think that we I'm being honest, so and
Speaker 8: literally a main eyebrow too. Anyway, I digress, But the
Speaker 8: point is I don't know that that really works as
Speaker 8: much as anymore, and I think that we have to
Speaker 8: be far more creative and engagement. And what that probably
Speaker 8: really means is that by the time you're standing up
Speaker 8: a campaign and you are developing your public engagement and
Speaker 8: your social impact initiatives.
Speaker 9: It's too late. There's something.
Speaker 8: And this takes me back full circle to the point
Speaker 8: I was raising about party chairs on the ground. You
Speaker 8: have to have almost a system like we talk so
Speaker 8: much about community policing where it's just real relationships with folks.
Speaker 9: You just have to have real relationships with.
Speaker 8: Folks and people feel like you represent their interests and
Speaker 8: not feeling like, oh, you went to my church and
Speaker 8: waved the fan or shook the tambourine or even you know,
Speaker 8: rock on beat with the tenor section, like you did
Speaker 8: more than that, and it wasn't just two weeks before
Speaker 8: the election, like people know now you know.
Speaker 9: What I'm saying.
Speaker 8: So I think that influencers have a role, but they
Speaker 8: aren't anywhere near as influential as they were in a
Speaker 8: wait because of these other platforms.
Speaker 1: Well could that grassroots? I'm glad you brought that up,
Speaker 1: because you know, I, for one, I believe that like
Speaker 1: my personal life goal at least where I am now
Speaker 1: in my career or my monetary level, I mean my
Speaker 1: personal life goal where I am right now if were
Speaker 1: all to end, is I mean, can I effectively affect
Speaker 1: the lives of fifty people personally push them in the direction,
Speaker 1: which people don't you know a lot of people have
Speaker 1: this whole the Michael Jackson, you know, heal the world,
Speaker 1: Save the world, you know, and you're thinking of millions
Speaker 1: of people, whereas you know, you see the Barocks campaign
Speaker 1: start off on a grassroots level, which you know people
Speaker 1: scoffed at, like, well, what good at grassroots doing? But
Speaker 1: how how does the grassroots level? How effective will that be?
Speaker 1: And will we get there in time for the mid
Speaker 1: terms or twenty twenty, because I do feel as though
Speaker 1: the grassroots level has to start sure, starts with the community,
Speaker 1: starts with the block.
Speaker 9: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Is Alderman still a thing like.
Speaker 2: Yeah he ran, Yeah, he ran, he lost. He was
Speaker 2: running against he would be a great person to have
Speaker 2: on the show, but he was running against like the incumbent.
Speaker 1: He was like this cop guy that.
Speaker 6: Like Chicago, Chicago.
Speaker 1: Yeah he lost.
Speaker 13: It was Alderman on good Time, Alderman, James, I think change.
Speaker 6: We can't even get.
Speaker 9: Hilarious.
Speaker 1: What is it? Okay? What is the Alderman's job? Is
Speaker 1: that like slightly above block captain or look it up
Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. Man ay right out what happened? I personally.
Speaker 6: You don't have one. Probably maybe you don't.
Speaker 8: Have but I think here, here, I think is the
Speaker 8: point we can't afford not to engage in grassroots level advocacy.
Speaker 8: And the point that you're raising, I think is one
Speaker 8: that's really important.
Speaker 9: We don't know the true.
Speaker 8: Impact of what Barack Obama did to mobilize people in
Speaker 8: two thousand and seven. In two thousand and eight, via
Speaker 8: online platforms, you could go and set up a house
Speaker 8: meeting on his website. Hillary Clinton didn't do any of that,
Speaker 8: you know, And I think that it was just it
Speaker 8: was just different. It's not that she didn't do any
Speaker 8: of that. She didn't do it as in depth. She
Speaker 8: didn't personally go into it in as many communities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she went in kind of a tone deaf campaign
Speaker 2: in my opinion. I mean, I thought she, you know.
Speaker 6: She was gonna win, and kind of felt like, right,
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 2: It was some of that, some of the entitlement, but
Speaker 2: it was just yeah, when you whipping and on, I
Speaker 2: was just like, this is not gonna end. Well, she
Speaker 2: was playing the satisfone on our City on Hall so
Speaker 2: but I mean, but he actually was playing it good,
Speaker 2: not like.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Chris wasn't I would.
Speaker 8: Rather and carrying hot sauce in her bag didn't have themselves. Well,
Speaker 8: I mean she really, she really does carry hot sauce
Speaker 8: in her bag. But I will say this, I would
Speaker 8: rather have her any day. And when you all deem
Speaker 8: as tone death than what we have right now, she
Speaker 8: looks like the mother of Jesus right now compared to that.
Speaker 8: So anyway, the only point that I'm raising to you
Speaker 8: is we can't afford not to find out what happens
Speaker 8: if we don't. Right Like to your point about the midterms,
Speaker 8: twenty eighteen is right around the corner.
Speaker 9: It is creeping. I mean, we are halfway through this year.
Speaker 1: Do you have hopes of something happening in twenty eighteen?
Speaker 1: What's the most that we could learn for it? Could
Speaker 1: we get some chairs, could we.
Speaker 8: Potentially get the house with miracles? The challenge that we
Speaker 8: have is there's something called a redistricting process that happened,
Speaker 8: and in the last redistricting process in most states, they
Speaker 8: drew these congressional districts very conservatively. And what they did
Speaker 8: far better than us, is they were strategically targeting state
Speaker 8: legislatures to run run for seats and win, and so
Speaker 8: we hold very few state legislatures, we hold very few governorships.
Speaker 8: Those are the entities that construct those state lines in
Speaker 8: the redistricting process.
Speaker 11: And I asked, and I asked questions since you're kind
Speaker 11: of leading into this, and it's sort of a parallel
Speaker 11: to I guess mainly talking about federal politics or tonight, right.
Speaker 11: And I think we've all known and been taught for
Speaker 11: a long time that as an individualised the most effect
Speaker 11: in local politics. And it seems like in order of
Speaker 11: the things that we're obsessed with in politics, it's everybody's
Speaker 11: obsessed with federal politics, where they have the least amount of, say,
Speaker 11: and some interest in state politics of who's the governor
Speaker 11: and who's the and yeah, and then local politics nobody
Speaker 11: gives a shit at all, Like you don't know who's
Speaker 11: running for you know.
Speaker 1: What's aldermen? Right?
Speaker 11: Like why you know, we know for a fact we
Speaker 11: should be much you know, it should be like you said,
Speaker 11: asked backwards. This seems asked backwards to me, like where
Speaker 11: people's obsessions in politics lie.
Speaker 8: So and I think that part of this is, you know,
Speaker 8: not only is it our responsibility, but I would say
Speaker 8: it's the responsibility of the media. How often do you
Speaker 8: turn on the local news and hear about what's going
Speaker 8: on in a city council meeting or you know, in
Speaker 8: a city council hearing if it's not a big vote
Speaker 8: coming up, like a huge ever, hear about it.
Speaker 6: Or a fight or shooting at the or that Saint
Speaker 6: Louis this opens.
Speaker 9: Just like Compton DJ Quick said it.
Speaker 8: So I think that the point is you just never
Speaker 8: know anything that's going on on the local level, you know,
Speaker 8: unless you get to the B section in your newspaper,
Speaker 8: and who reads newspapers anymore? You can go to Twitter
Speaker 8: and find your headlines and click on that article. So
Speaker 8: I think the responsibility is in part on the media.
Speaker 8: But as a result, again going back to the idea
Speaker 8: of being taxpayers, we have to figure out how to
Speaker 8: go and get that information. And it's frustrating and really
Speaker 8: hard to encourage people to do that in a day
Speaker 8: and age where everything comes to you, like you don't
Speaker 8: have to.
Speaker 9: Go get your news, you get an alert on your phone.
Speaker 8: So how how do you tell people in a space
Speaker 8: where attention spans are short and everything comes to them
Speaker 8: to go out and get it. It's hard and I
Speaker 8: don't really know the answer to this. I also just
Speaker 8: said this at the panel I was on for BT
Speaker 8: Genius Talks. I am, truly, I think a great example
Speaker 8: of a hypocrite in this space. I very rarely know
Speaker 8: anything about what's happening on the local level politically, and
Speaker 8: it's horrible. If it wasn't for my dad giving me
Speaker 8: his Philipbruster rundown on the phone to night, even at
Speaker 8: home and Seattle, I just wouldn't know because I'm not
Speaker 8: as interested in it, and I know it impacts my
Speaker 8: everyday life a lot more. We talk about there's just
Speaker 8: another shooting death in Seattle by the police department, Charlene
Speaker 8: and Lyles.
Speaker 9: You know that is something that I care about.
Speaker 8: And to my credit, I tweeted about one of my
Speaker 8: good friends who's a city council member, so she's probably
Speaker 8: ready to choke me. She hears this Lorena Gonzalez in Seattle,
Speaker 8: who was holding a town hall meeting about what happened
Speaker 8: in that shooting death.
Speaker 9: And very rarely do.
Speaker 8: You see things like that happening where city councilors like
Speaker 8: I know, we're culpable, we have a problem.
Speaker 9: Let's come and talk about it.
Speaker 8: That's a big thing because we don't ever feel heard,
Speaker 8: and that's why you see some of those protest actions happening,
Speaker 8: because people are like, we pay y'all and you're still
Speaker 8: killing us.
Speaker 9: So full circle.
Speaker 8: I do need to do a lot more myself, But
Speaker 8: I talk about what I know because that's where I
Speaker 8: worked and that's what I'm most interested in.
Speaker 9: But that's not right.
Speaker 11: I meant, in general, it seems like everybody's much more interested.
Speaker 8: No, no, I agree with I was just using my own
Speaker 8: hypocrisy as an example.
Speaker 2: My question, my question for you is like, how what
Speaker 2: are reputable news sources for you? Because we were joking
Speaker 2: earlier about a movie and stuff, but real rap, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's kind of it's just in the age we live
Speaker 2: in of social media, where information flies fast and disinformation
Speaker 2: and misinformation flies even faster. Yeah, after a while, I mean,
Speaker 2: you I open my Twitter feed and I'm just like bullshit,
Speaker 2: bullshit my line bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 9: It's just like, are you following well?
Speaker 1: I mean I follow CNN and I follow all the
Speaker 1: big you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I try to get quote unquote both sides,
Speaker 2: but after a while, it just is a lot of
Speaker 2: just words words.
Speaker 9: We need both sides.
Speaker 8: So at this point it's a it's a human decency issue,
Speaker 8: right like this, This is not a partisan issue where
Speaker 8: you're just seeing it from another lens. It literally is about,
Speaker 8: you know, morality at this point. On the other side
Speaker 8: of that, who are your five go to.
Speaker 9: Periodicals or whatever?
Speaker 8: I would say New York Times, CNN, l A Times,
Speaker 8: Seattle Times because I'm from there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I like the route. What else? Political?
Speaker 6: For Hill News, I gotta get the act together.
Speaker 9: The roots?
Speaker 8: All right, that's fair too, But as soon as we
Speaker 8: get to favorite groups and the best live show, we'll
Speaker 8: talk about the roots.
Speaker 9: But yeah, the root and then I also I said
Speaker 9: the political political, the Hill? What else?
Speaker 7: Washington Post?
Speaker 8: Washington Post is also a good one, but yeah, I
Speaker 8: normally those are my are my go.
Speaker 10: Tos Yo you mentioned, I mean just you mentioned your
Speaker 10: phone getting hacked. But have you you You're very we
Speaker 10: all know you're very vocal. I know you hold back,
Speaker 10: but doesn't seem like it on TV. Have you running
Speaker 10: the situations where you've been threatened in that way in
Speaker 10: some way?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Absolutely, there was one I only had Thank god, I've
Speaker 8: only had one death threat situation that had to be reported,
Speaker 8: and several people even on my feed also reported it,
Speaker 8: not just to Twitter, but like to the FEDS, like, hey,
Speaker 8: this is seems like a legitimate issue. And actually it
Speaker 8: happened while I was getting off the plane in Saint Louis.
Speaker 9: We talked about Saint Louis earlier.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think that there are definitely some legitimate issues.
Speaker 8: And I think regardless of how outspoken I've been, I've
Speaker 8: not been threatened at any degree, at any degree or
Speaker 8: at any level. The same of some of my friends
Speaker 8: who are really doing the on the ground activist work.
Speaker 1: So activist work, what is what is your view or
Speaker 1: your take on we're actives stands now? Do we need
Speaker 1: a figurehead? Do we need a Malcolm? Do we need
Speaker 1: a Martin? Do we need a do we have one?
Speaker 6: And we just don't know?
Speaker 9: No, I think that is different.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people are vying for a position,
Speaker 1: but you know, but as far as not non Washington politics,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the the ongoing problem of shooting
Speaker 1: unarmed people, it's still you know, we're as far as
Speaker 1: where we are today. What is your view on activism
Speaker 1: and it's participants mainly those that are, you know, saying
Speaker 1: that they've started this movement or that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: and I I.
Speaker 8: Really don't care about the who started what discussion. I
Speaker 8: am grateful for for the work of the women who
Speaker 8: founded the hashtag, the Black Lives Matter hashtag, Alicia and
Speaker 8: Opal and Patrice as I'm equally grateful to, you know,
Speaker 8: the many contributions to that movement of Deray and Brittany
Speaker 8: and Sam and Janetta. I am also even more grateful
Speaker 8: to the fact that, or of the fact that it's
Speaker 8: been young people, we would have been talking about criminal
Speaker 8: justice reform and mass incarceration in the twenty sixteen campaign
Speaker 8: if it wasn't for the work of young activists. When
Speaker 8: I think about the many ways in which were often
Speaker 8: challenged and by this I mean black organizations are traditional
Speaker 8: civil rights organizations to provide data and metrics for why.
Speaker 9: We deserve grant money.
Speaker 8: And then I think about what Deray and Brittany and
Speaker 8: Sam have done with Campaign zero, showing you the data
Speaker 8: on the number of black and brown people who've been
Speaker 8: killed at the hands of police or have been brutalized
Speaker 8: at the hands of police. All of that work matters,
Speaker 8: and I think the sooner that people can stop worrying about,
Speaker 8: you know, whether or not there needs to be ahead,
Speaker 8: or is there a head and who's our new Martin
Speaker 8: or who's our new Malcolm, and just focuses on the
Speaker 8: fact that the work is getting done and we need
Speaker 8: all of these people and everyone has a role to play,
Speaker 8: and it's not a competition. And the moment that we
Speaker 8: get sidetracked on the competition, that's the moment where another
Speaker 8: black or brown person dies. You know, we just can't
Speaker 8: afford to have those types of silos. I think about,
Speaker 8: you know, the work of the Women's March that Janey
Speaker 8: Ingram and Tamika Mallory and Linda Sarsoura and Carmen Perez
Speaker 8: all were a part of, and in the backlash they
Speaker 8: got from black and brown woman who said, why are
Speaker 8: you working with white feminists because traditionally they step on
Speaker 8: us and on our issues. Well, at what point do
Speaker 8: we say, I'm gonna deal with that a little bit,
Speaker 8: but let's stand together on this one thing. I'm sitting
Speaker 8: here so that you have a voice at this table.
Speaker 8: Let's just get through this part. I think that we
Speaker 8: just have too much on the line to not figure
Speaker 8: out ways to work together.
Speaker 1: That might be a slippery slip though, because what do
Speaker 1: we say if uh, let's say the CEO of PEPSI
Speaker 1: visits Trump's White House.
Speaker 9: I think it's different.
Speaker 8: I think it's And the reason why I think it's
Speaker 8: different is because Donald Trump invites people to the White
Speaker 8: House for photo opportunities, not to create real change. And
Speaker 8: I think the moment you go and you sit at
Speaker 8: a table and you see that your there's no intention
Speaker 8: on your voice being heard.
Speaker 9: You played yourself. That's totally different.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you so that selfie or that
Speaker 1: photo he took with the.
Speaker 8: The HBCU presidents where there's nine thousand of them in
Speaker 8: the room and Kelly and the couch, that one that's
Speaker 8: the one you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little Houston five hundred.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they played themselves. They played themselves.
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like.
Speaker 6: Those pens.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not whatsoever like you. Yeah, so to you,
Speaker 1: I mean in their eyes, did they figure that, oh,
Speaker 1: you two are trying to get a seat at the
Speaker 1: table and.
Speaker 8: Well and they got played because what happened was they
Speaker 8: were told that they were going to have a sit
Speaker 8: down meeting with Donald Trump and instead were ushered into
Speaker 8: the Oval office, where it is far too small for
Speaker 8: that many president college presidents to go in there for
Speaker 8: a photo opportunity. They were never talked to by the president. Instead,
Speaker 8: he sent his little celebrity apprentice and h to talk
Speaker 8: to them.
Speaker 1: You feel about her, I don't know. I had god
Speaker 1: that that.
Speaker 8: No love, especially after I don't know if you all saw,
Speaker 8: but she sent a letter to.
Speaker 9: The Congressional Black Caucus.
Speaker 8: Let me just no, no, that that ain't even the worst
Speaker 8: part because we know she's not honorable number one, who
Speaker 8: signs when you're the honorable, you don't have to sign
Speaker 8: your letter the honorable like people notice sign send you
Speaker 8: a letter that says that. So also, you know, not
Speaker 8: just in law school, but I think even in high school,
Speaker 8: you learn where an address block goes on the letter
Speaker 8: where Dederick Richmond's address block was at the bottom of
Speaker 8: the letter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good nights, I've gotten some letters.
Speaker 8: Somebody somebody said to check that. And then and then
Speaker 8: the bottom line is after she was denied, she went
Speaker 8: on Twitter and said one monkey doesn't don't stop, no show.
Speaker 6: So are you saying, wait?
Speaker 10: So the story isros got denied into the Black Caucus.
Speaker 9: Oh no, that was never gonna happen.
Speaker 8: She invited them on behalf of Donald Trump, to come
Speaker 8: back to the White House for a meeting. The first
Speaker 8: time they went, they didn't take the whole CBC because
Speaker 8: it didn't merit the entire CBC's time. Congressman Richmond who's
Speaker 8: the chair of the caucus, went in with just the
Speaker 8: Executive Committee, which is standard we did it for under
Speaker 8: Barack Obama's administration. And they took in a white paper
Speaker 8: that said, here are here's one hundred and thirty pages
Speaker 8: of issues that you could be working on that would
Speaker 8: help to advance the black community. So when you ask us,
Speaker 8: what in the hell do we have to lose, exhibit
Speaker 8: a sucker. And that's what they did. And so she
Speaker 8: invited them back because that wasn't enough attention for her
Speaker 8: and said, why don't all of you come back so
Speaker 8: they could.
Speaker 9: Try to get this photo op?
Speaker 8: And you played yourself because we know who you are
Speaker 8: and what you stand for.
Speaker 9: Good night.
Speaker 8: I folt like she might sit outside at a desk
Speaker 8: at the White House.
Speaker 1: What was told? Would she be in house of cars?
Speaker 1: Which character she would be?
Speaker 9: Not on camera?
Speaker 8: She would be like like the person, the staffer who
Speaker 8: oversees the interns.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
Speaker 9: I understand.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't even give her Freddy because Freddy got more
Speaker 8: honored this year. But I just wanted to tell you
Speaker 8: all this in case you missed it to all the listeners.
Speaker 8: The reason why I treat her so bad is because
Speaker 8: not only is she the devil, but she also before
Speaker 8: she was all on Donald Trump's bandwagon, she was doing
Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton. There's photo evidence looking up online Hillary Clinton fundraisers.
Speaker 8: There was a super pack that was established before Hillary
Speaker 8: Clinton announced, called ready for Hillary. Morosa was ready for Hillary.
Speaker 8: She worked in the Clinton white House. Yeah, we don't
Speaker 8: do Yeah, we don't do that.
Speaker 9: We don't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, I forgot my question.
Speaker 6: It's funny.
Speaker 10: I've seen a couple of black people in that in
Speaker 10: that White House, in the over office. They're always the
Speaker 10: one to pushing the reporters out like a couple of
Speaker 10: weird It is we Yeah, Angela Mitchell.
Speaker 8: She tried to compare herself to Valerie Jared. Girl, if
Speaker 8: you ever listen to this, she won't ever be Valerie.
Speaker 8: That ain't right, That ain't right, That ain't right, that right,
Speaker 8: she said, I'm Valerie Jared to Donald Trump?
Speaker 6: What what?
Speaker 9: Yes? Exactly Bell, Valerie Jared.
Speaker 1: Anyway, what did.
Speaker 9: Y'all How did y'all get me down that?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, we go down?
Speaker 9: Can I stand her?
Speaker 1: Did that clip ever come out?
Speaker 9: Which clip?
Speaker 1: The clip you said.
Speaker 7: Sound like you're saying something crazy?
Speaker 8: I notice that from the from the yeah, so I
Speaker 8: think they put it on a couple of sites.
Speaker 9: National Action Network.
Speaker 8: They had a women's luncheon and Empowerment Women's luncheon, and
Speaker 8: she spoke I don't know who, Rev, I love you
Speaker 8: so much, but I don't know who thought that was
Speaker 8: gonna be a good idea to have omros to speak
Speaker 8: at the beginning of this lunch. And she got up
Speaker 8: there and tried to lie to my cousin. So I
Speaker 8: had to correct the record. I didn't need to do
Speaker 8: my acceptance speech. I just had to come for her.
Speaker 8: And so that's what happened. Trump's Apprentice is I didn't
Speaker 8: even call her by the name, just Trump's a Princeice.
Speaker 8: Did she just walk out after No, So she actually
Speaker 8: walked out. Rev kind of got her and then she
Speaker 8: walked out after that. So I was like, well, somebody
Speaker 8: show her a video because I'm about to show it.
Speaker 6: So y'all never been at each other's life.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were trying to put her in pictures with
Speaker 8: me that day. I was like, I'm not taking pictures
Speaker 8: with her. That flies against everything I stand for.
Speaker 10: You must have a list of people that like, not
Speaker 10: only pictures. I will not engage in conversation.
Speaker 8: It's not that long though, people on CNN who are
Speaker 8: Trump supporters, who I actually like, you know, but I
Speaker 8: just don't like when people are, you know, just blatant liars,
Speaker 8: just you know, you switch and you contort and you
Speaker 8: just do whatever's convenient when you're clearly an opportunistic person.
Speaker 9: I just don't. I can't rock with you.
Speaker 6: How many times have you been to offer your own
Speaker 6: show on one of these networks?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's my next question. It was, why do
Speaker 1: you not have your own show like that?
Speaker 7: I won't have my own show.
Speaker 1: Exclusive coming out when Okay, well, yes, I got to
Speaker 1: ask you. When Melissai Harris Perry left her, he didn't leave, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she didn't when she was escorted. Yeah, when she when
Speaker 1: her post was by my employer, did you get a
Speaker 1: phone call like would you like your own showing.
Speaker 9: You so yes, people are calling me.
Speaker 8: I will say that there was not a better person
Speaker 8: that could have taken that morning slot than Joy Read.
Speaker 8: I think Joy now I was devastated when her daily
Speaker 8: show was canceled. And I think that she has like
Speaker 8: she kills it. She's better than so many people on
Speaker 8: so many networks.
Speaker 6: They put us on the weekend.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and and but I think that she could easily,
Speaker 8: like we see her all the time filling in for
Speaker 8: some of the other daily shows.
Speaker 9: She's phenomenal.
Speaker 8: But yes, I think that I, you know, talk about
Speaker 8: things in a certain way, and I will definitely be
Speaker 8: doing something.
Speaker 9: But yes, people are calling.
Speaker 1: Ambiguity.
Speaker 9: No, not just.
Speaker 10: That question about some real quick Can I just say
Speaker 10: that moment we're all talking about the N word follow
Speaker 10: up or whatever.
Speaker 6: Of course, everybody talking about ice cube. Everybody talked about
Speaker 6: doctor Dyson. But Simone Sanders, Yes.
Speaker 9: She had. She had a great moment.
Speaker 8: And the thing that people don't understand is Simon was
Speaker 8: booked to go on the show before that inward moment happened.
Speaker 8: She did phenomenally well, so I was definitely cheering her
Speaker 8: on and I was so glad that she was there
Speaker 8: to kind of speak out not just for black people
Speaker 8: and educating on the inward, but also black women.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Sorry, No, it's it's quite a rough show too, your show.
Speaker 12: I think were about to ask some Yeah, God.
Speaker 4: You were saying that you're friends with some Trump supporters.
Speaker 4: When I meet someone and learned that they're Trump supporter,
Speaker 4: I have a really hard.
Speaker 1: Time talking to them.
Speaker 4: I understand, Like I can't. I understand because I don't
Speaker 4: understand how they could vote for someone that's not dumb.
Speaker 4: That's how I feel about that. I don't think any
Speaker 4: of the tables trump supporters. I hope not because I'll
Speaker 4: be weird, that particularly weird. But I mean, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Actually, Bill, So I can't.
Speaker 8: I can't talk to them about politics. What I have
Speaker 8: worked really hard on doing is understanding who they are
Speaker 8: as human beings, like why in the what?
Speaker 9: And sometimes it is.
Speaker 1: We can't separate that. I mean, can you separate that?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 9: Sometimes it's really hard.
Speaker 8: But I think one good example is on CNN Jeffrey Lord,
Speaker 8: who I'm often like if we're on together, like like
Speaker 8: are you serious?
Speaker 9: Did you really just say? Or whatever?
Speaker 8: Every night, when Jeffrey leaves CNN, he is driving home
Speaker 8: back to Pennsylvania to take care of his mother, who
Speaker 8: has dementia. And to me, that's something that's very personal
Speaker 8: because my grandmother passed away with Alzheimer's a couple of
Speaker 8: years ago, and I know how hard that work is.
Speaker 8: I know how hard it was for my dad and
Speaker 8: his sisters and his brothers. It was really really tough.
Speaker 8: And then making the decision to put my grandmother in
Speaker 8: a home where I was like, she has a mouth,
Speaker 8: like my n gonna kill her, and fortunately they then
Speaker 8: they ended up actually really really loving her.
Speaker 9: But I just know that, and so it just it
Speaker 9: there is there.
Speaker 8: I know that about him, and that means that somewhere
Speaker 8: beyond the Trump propaganda, right, there's the heart of someone
Speaker 8: who's truly compassionate and really loves his family. And so
Speaker 8: there are things like that that I have to kind
Speaker 8: of latch onto and and just be hopeful about the KKK.
Speaker 6: They love their family.
Speaker 8: Dude, Yeah, I ain't checking for the KKKO they love it.
Speaker 9: I don't think he's the kk Okay.
Speaker 2: You talked about your dad and how he was an activist.
Speaker 2: Was your mother politically active as well?
Speaker 6: It is?
Speaker 8: My dad still has a bullhorn in his trunk. We
Speaker 8: just did a in real life, We just did a
Speaker 8: seventy fifth surprise birthday party for him at the beginning
Speaker 8: of June, and.
Speaker 9: The props at the photo booths, like we had his.
Speaker 8: Old MLK signs and the bullhorn was made a very
Speaker 8: prominent appearance.
Speaker 9: At the party. So he's really serious about it.
Speaker 8: My mom was is not the same type of activists
Speaker 8: as my dad. She is a retired college administrator, but
Speaker 8: she was on affirmative action commissions and studying how students
Speaker 8: of color learned, and very active in multicultural education on
Speaker 8: her campus, so very much so. One of my favorite
Speaker 8: pictures that my childhood Dennis found and got blown up
Speaker 8: for my parents for my dad's birthday, actually was my
Speaker 8: parents marching side by side. It's a great picture. It's
Speaker 8: my cover photo on Facebook right now. I was like,
Speaker 8: look at black love happening.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful.
Speaker 8: And my dad had on a bad sweet coach too.
Speaker 8: I was like, this dude was stayed silent in the march.
Speaker 9: But okay.
Speaker 1: So in the idea of being politically active, what would
Speaker 1: your message be to people, especially my field of entertainment,
Speaker 1: What are effective ways for us to get involved? In
Speaker 1: which what I say is that the the Harry Bellefonte
Speaker 1: method method where he m the sixties routinely funded you know, uh,
Speaker 1: marches and hotels and bail money, that sort of thing
Speaker 1: I see. I feel as though, ever since the the
Speaker 1: Dixie Chicks a Bush uh Natalie Mind's criticizing Bush in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three for the war and how that
Speaker 1: affected their their money, their income, he kind of seeing
Speaker 1: a quiet, apprehensive a political view from a lot of entertainers,
Speaker 1: Like I for one, thought, oh, that this war is
Speaker 1: really going to bring on you know, uh what's going
Speaker 1: on type Yeah, are politically motivated, you know, like a
Speaker 1: more conscious from the opposite and rendered them indifferent and
Speaker 1: really to where we are now, like just Cole getting
Speaker 1: dumb so and you know a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of people would you know, feel as though they might
Speaker 1: have something to lose. I mean not in the case
Speaker 1: of a it's football player, guy that didn't vote in
Speaker 1: the last election.
Speaker 8: Sorry, So just as an example of that though, like
Speaker 8: I think it's important for us to understand that.
Speaker 9: Where we are siloed or we are left.
Speaker 8: Standing as individuals, we're easier to target and to strike
Speaker 8: and to take out if we stand as a collective,
Speaker 8: unified group, NFL players that know the national anthem doesn't
Speaker 8: speak for us, and shouldn't NFL players that know that
Speaker 8: black lives matter and we should stand for something, you know,
Speaker 8: we It shouldn't have just been Colin and that is
Speaker 8: why it was so easy for them to take him out.
Speaker 8: I think, you know, using your art to convey a
Speaker 8: certain message is important.
Speaker 9: But I think that there's something that.
Speaker 8: We, as a collective, the people, have to do to
Speaker 8: support that art. I think about jay Z the song Spiritual,
Speaker 8: How well did that do? And think about what it
Speaker 8: was really about?
Speaker 1: So the song he had a song?
Speaker 10: You listen to it, listen to it.
Speaker 9: It's just.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, you've done the unthinkable is to name
Speaker 4: a song that these two never heard of. It was
Speaker 4: it was a title exclusive, wasn't it? Because I don't care,
Speaker 4: it's never I'm looking for it right now. Oh God,
Speaker 4: I hope I title hope reas someone He was twelve
Speaker 4: and no one ever heard.
Speaker 1: But they've heard it.
Speaker 8: So all I'm telling, all I'm saying to you is
Speaker 8: or you can look at t I released this mini
Speaker 8: doc on bt us or else, And of course the
Speaker 8: corresponding album.
Speaker 9: How well did those things?
Speaker 8: Do you know, when we say that we need our
Speaker 8: artists to be conscious and woke and to be pushing
Speaker 8: this material and you know, touting these messages, how do
Speaker 8: we support them when they're doing that.
Speaker 1: I think that's just lip service.
Speaker 2: I think that's just from in my opinion, like when
Speaker 2: people talk about quote unquote conscious hip hop, when they
Speaker 2: say they want that from artists, I think it's very
Speaker 2: much like your grocery card is. Like everybody say they
Speaker 2: want to eat vegetables, but that ship don't never make it.
Speaker 6: They just don't want it from everybody.
Speaker 13: They wanted a chance, but everybody, yes, taking a consideration,
Speaker 13: the record labels don't want to put in the extra
Speaker 13: work to market that kind of material.
Speaker 2: But then too, But for me, like I mean, and
Speaker 2: I'm just using him as a example, like do I
Speaker 2: really want to hear a conscious record quote unquote from
Speaker 2: t I?
Speaker 9: I mean he I mean, but a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 9: it has been infused.
Speaker 6: It's hard reality.
Speaker 13: Do you really want to another see the record about
Speaker 13: all the other ship that he wraps about on all
Speaker 13: his other records, because he.
Speaker 1: Wraps about that ship really well?
Speaker 2: I mean, you you can listen to like you can
Speaker 2: get Rubber fan Man whatever you can.
Speaker 1: They talk the same ship. So if he wants to
Speaker 1: run about something else, then he should be. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I guess.
Speaker 2: My point is if he wants to do that, then
Speaker 2: absolutely let him do it. But I think there's a
Speaker 2: problem kind of what back when you feel like it's
Speaker 2: insincere if don't make niggas out to be more than
Speaker 2: what they are, Like when you know when when they
Speaker 2: went to.
Speaker 6: Aren't niggas more than one thing?
Speaker 1: What I feel like we're getting now, we're getting into.
Speaker 2: This Ferguson, like when Ferguson happened, when Mike Brown happened,
Speaker 2: and everybody was like Nelly needed to come and speak,
Speaker 2: Nelly needed to come, and I was just like okay,
Speaker 2: and then Nelly spoke and it's just like and then
Speaker 2: and then people started climbing. It was like, dude, that
Speaker 2: ain't his Maybe that's not yeah.
Speaker 10: Because that is his community. That is I mean, he's
Speaker 10: the most famous famous MC to come out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, with the people, walk with the people. Everyone
Speaker 1: has to be I have a dream to put niggas.
Speaker 8: On j You don't stop what you're doing but I
Speaker 8: think the reality of it is we shouldn't We shouldn't
Speaker 8: necessarily try to control them if that's what they feel
Speaker 8: like they should be expressing. I also think that we
Speaker 8: should try to be supportive of it. If we're saying
Speaker 8: that nobody's hearing us and we're not, you know, the voices.
Speaker 9: That are talking about it aren't loud enough.
Speaker 8: And then once those voices are talking about it, we
Speaker 8: don't support it.
Speaker 9: That's a problem.
Speaker 8: If we don't like how they're expressing it, then we
Speaker 8: can offer, you know, criticism, but at least try to
Speaker 8: hear them out. And then the other piece I would
Speaker 8: say is there are artists who are very conscious who
Speaker 8: would still say, you know, there's stuff about this whole
Speaker 8: stuff that I don't know enough about, and I want
Speaker 8: to learn more.
Speaker 9: Before I step out there.
Speaker 8: And I think that it's up to those of us
Speaker 8: who do know more to help educate the masses period,
Speaker 8: regardless of that they have a platform or not.
Speaker 1: You should have got whack bezza, Come.
Speaker 9: On, what's happen?
Speaker 6: You gotta make this is real life and this is
Speaker 6: what people think.
Speaker 1: It's like it's gotta be a jet like that.
Speaker 2: I guess that's to me, because we were having this
Speaker 2: company earlier, the role of you know, entertainers quote unquote
Speaker 2: as activists to me, that's just it gets really negolous.
Speaker 1: Because the sugar helps medicine go down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, dude, just do what you do. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, do do what you do
Speaker 2: at the best, at what you do. Like, I don't
Speaker 2: need artists to quote unquote inspire me by trying to inspire.
Speaker 6: You don't need it at about most people.
Speaker 2: So I don't think I think bad and Bougie will
Speaker 2: get more niggas to work than damn less about black
Speaker 2: people people.
Speaker 1: This inspirationals You're saying that Migos doing a benefit concert
Speaker 1: that could raise money for cause, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It's more effective not with them doing.
Speaker 8: Everybody do the same thing. Every artist doesn't have to
Speaker 8: do the same thing. Their contribution may not look like
Speaker 8: Harry Belafonte. Maybe there is somebody that can bring a
Speaker 8: stage show to Broadway and disrupt culture just on how
Speaker 8: we see ourselves thinking about Hamilton, Like, there are so
Speaker 8: many ways that we can disrupt that don't have to
Speaker 8: be you know.
Speaker 10: Also, Jay Z is setting a little standard tude that
Speaker 10: I think is kind of cool because he's been doing
Speaker 10: things lately and I don't give him props usually, but
Speaker 10: I'm just saying, you don't like the bail things, so
Speaker 10: like you didn't you feel about that you didn't like.
Speaker 8: Was a part of the Dream Defenders doing that. Dream
Speaker 8: Defenders started doing that with mothers who were incarcerated on
Speaker 8: Mother's Day and helping them.
Speaker 9: Get out of jail. So he actually supported organizations doing
Speaker 9: that work. I think it's great.
Speaker 8: He also helped to bail folks out during the Ferguson protest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that helps. That helps, But.
Speaker 4: I think it has a lot of it has to
Speaker 4: happen like Vietnam. Right, it was like Bob Dylan was
Speaker 4: writing this music and it was it was more universal
Speaker 4: doing it from there.
Speaker 13: It's also not all up in the press being like yo,
Speaker 13: I did this, I did that, I did this, I
Speaker 13: did that. Right, So, like, nobody really to know what
Speaker 13: any of these cats are doing, just doing the ship.
Speaker 1: And if I were to tell y'all, I don't care,
Speaker 1: I don't care what you did, I'm I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. What you're going to
Speaker 1: do just do it, and just do something and don't
Speaker 1: try to get the love for it. Just do it
Speaker 1: true because you.
Speaker 6: Know it's prosperate off this community. Give it back something.
Speaker 2: But I agree, give it back, but give it back
Speaker 2: in the way that best fits you.
Speaker 7: Like you too.
Speaker 2: Just my problem is just trying to make everybody you know,
Speaker 2: Malcolm or Martin what It's just like, dude, like that
Speaker 2: just ain't your calling, man, Like, give it the best,
Speaker 2: do the best you and and be true in that. Like,
Speaker 2: don't try to make somebody that ain't a speaker or
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Don't try to make them into something that they're not.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Where's jaw where? Yo? For real?
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it becomes a where's jah woke off moment
Speaker 2: where everybody's trying to show how woke they are and
Speaker 2: this like all right, all y'all needs need to go
Speaker 2: back to sleep.
Speaker 6: From Carolina And.
Speaker 10: You don't like slavery shows neither, and but he loved
Speaker 10: black women.
Speaker 6: It's a weird you know, we.
Speaker 1: Love we're also a hip hop generation and we are
Speaker 1: in mid life crisis right now. Also let's admit that
Speaker 1: as well. I feel like us as a as a
Speaker 1: first generation of hip hop. We're also under mid life
Speaker 1: crisis because you know, I mean we're we don't recognize
Speaker 1: it no more. Yeah, we don't recognize it anymore.
Speaker 2: And uh Freshman cover. That's yeah, that looked like Pokemon.
Speaker 1: I was like, who these niggas?
Speaker 6: Was like, nah, yes, just a shameless plug.
Speaker 10: It wasn't nothing like that Essence cover with all those
Speaker 10: ladies like Angela Roach when that was a beautiful cover,
Speaker 10: like that Essence cover.
Speaker 9: Is honor a part of it?
Speaker 1: What's the sports entertainment lawyer story? Why didn't I?
Speaker 8: Oh? So the short version is I.
Speaker 1: Extended dance version.
Speaker 9: To this day. I love the movie.
Speaker 8: Jerry Maguire like, I absolutely love it. And so I
Speaker 8: was like, I want to be a sports entertainment lawyer.
Speaker 8: And I told my pastor, who's also my goddad.
Speaker 9: I was like, this is really what I want to do.
Speaker 9: So he's like, okay, cool.
Speaker 8: So we had like some Seahawks players that went to
Speaker 8: my church at the time, and so one of the
Speaker 8: players he introduced me to after He's like.
Speaker 9: It's my god daughter. She want to be a sports
Speaker 9: en tamu lawyer.
Speaker 8: We like standing on the altar after the benediction at church,
Speaker 8: Goddad b lines and the dude was like, if you're
Speaker 8: gonna represent me, what you're gonna do for me? And
Speaker 8: I was like, okay, and it ain't that type of party.
Speaker 8: I will find another job wait in church.
Speaker 9: At church right after.
Speaker 1: So that's where to.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 10: So on the hills of that question, And you tell
Speaker 10: me if this is going too far, Angela, but this
Speaker 10: is my own curiosity.
Speaker 6: Are you single?
Speaker 10: And if you are, how crazy is it to navigate
Speaker 10: in your world being who you are with the mouth
Speaker 10: that you have?
Speaker 6: And I'm assuming that you rather go black.
Speaker 9: So I've never dated a white guy.
Speaker 8: Okay that, but I will also say that, so I
Speaker 8: will also say that I am single. That is, this
Speaker 8: is not a plug for tender like engagement, though on
Speaker 8: social media I say that regularly, like I'm not on
Speaker 8: Twitter trying to find a dude.
Speaker 9: Please don't d m me.
Speaker 8: I have some crazy dms, like crazy dms, crazy comments
Speaker 8: on Instagram in particular, And while I appreciate the love,
Speaker 8: sometimes I just wish they would just hold it in
Speaker 8: their hearts.
Speaker 9: I just want to say I got something happening right now.
Speaker 8: I just want to stay focused but no, it's it's
Speaker 8: it's fine.
Speaker 9: It is what it is.
Speaker 6: It's not difficult dating in this.
Speaker 8: I don't think I have a problem being approached. I
Speaker 8: think that I'm selective. I'm a daddy's girl, truthfully, and
Speaker 8: so if they don't align.
Speaker 1: With too soon, too soon, if they don't, if.
Speaker 8: They don't up my standards are like what I know
Speaker 8: a man should be like, I'm not checking.
Speaker 10: For dude, would you would you date somebody in politics
Speaker 10: at this point?
Speaker 8: I don't think so, Like I can't be like a
Speaker 8: first lady type. I'm looking to piss off everybody.
Speaker 1: You want to know why Angela Rodgers, because you are
Speaker 1: going to be president.
Speaker 10: First, the second black female president, because we ain't getting
Speaker 10: her killed.
Speaker 8: So they're not my Those aren't my dreams and aspirations
Speaker 8: that I appreciate.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 8: We don't like the black folks wanted to be speaking,
Speaker 8: gonna be a preacher, like that's what I feel like
Speaker 8: because I know politics, like y'all think I'm I'm not
Speaker 8: running for office.
Speaker 1: And look back in nineteen ninety three when I was
Speaker 1: signing my record deal, do you think I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the black dox Everson of it. No,
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know what. There you go.
Speaker 8: They know when they dig about his footage, they're gonna
Speaker 8: be like, we can't. Yeah, it's crazy like that ain't happening.
Speaker 8: So I just don't want to run. I just hope
Speaker 8: that you will receive that in your spirit. I don't
Speaker 8: want to run. I'm not trying.
Speaker 1: The angel. Am I the first person to really tell
Speaker 1: you this.
Speaker 9: No, there are a.
Speaker 8: Lot of people that asked me to run all the time.
Speaker 8: That's just not what I want to do. I feel
Speaker 8: like there are other ways that I can have.
Speaker 11: At the table president.
Speaker 9: Maybe that's the press. Maybe you're the press. Maybe the
Speaker 9: president's sitting in your chair because it's not in this one.
Speaker 6: That's way too much.
Speaker 1: We do you think you think Zuckerberg is making a
Speaker 1: go I don't know.
Speaker 9: Is that a thing? I didn't hear that.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: He is just like doing a bunch of like present
Speaker 2: pre president. Like he's like he put up a post
Speaker 2: the other day and was like, yeah, I'm in Iowa,
Speaker 2: met some folks down here.
Speaker 8: Don't trying to get to two billion Facebook users goal achieved.
Speaker 9: Now let's see if he still does that so maybe
Speaker 9: I'll follow you there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Irey Booker, maybe maybe also Kamala, which like she's
Speaker 8: shutting it down, so I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know Kamala.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want her to get hurt either though.
Speaker 9: No, we don't want anybody to get hurt.
Speaker 1: We want no one to get hurt. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: you for coming on the show today, and we've we've
Speaker 1: been trying to make this happen for the longest I know,
Speaker 1: So tell us where we can hear your podcast.
Speaker 8: The podcast is called on One with a Rye and
Speaker 8: it's on uh Apple, on I, on Spotify, on title
Speaker 8: and SoundCloud.
Speaker 1: Well down, So what do we learn today, Fronte Man.
Speaker 2: I learned that Angela Rode is probably like I'm not
Speaker 2: a very political person at all. Like I'm not like
Speaker 2: a person that like checks the news all the time
Speaker 2: and get very involved in.
Speaker 1: The creative process.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, y'all know, if you've listened to show,
Speaker 2: y'all know I don't follow that shit like that, but
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But I do have a
Speaker 2: respect for just really genuine people. And the thing that
Speaker 2: I just met with think with you is that you have.
Speaker 1: You're very knowledgeable about your feel and you know it.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's something with you that
Speaker 2: I think is very relatable and you're not so much
Speaker 2: like I won't say necessarily, don't say on a pedestal,
Speaker 2: but you're you're You're very relatable, which I think also
Speaker 2: lends credence to the presidential quality, which I know you
Speaker 2: don't want, but I'm saying that I think that quality
Speaker 2: about you is something and that I don't see in
Speaker 2: a lot of your contemporaries.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Even when we were talking in the group text, we
Speaker 2: were like, yo, Andre's doing the show, I was like, Okay.
Speaker 2: Out of a lot of people in that lane of
Speaker 2: the new Black kind of political she's the one to
Speaker 2: me that seems kind of the most centered, not necessarily
Speaker 2: center in terms of the issues where you staying, but
Speaker 2: just she's the one that seems more like yeah, like
Speaker 2: she could, she could fuck with us, and like she
Speaker 2: is a person, you know what I mean. And so nah,
Speaker 2: just sitting down here chopping up, but you thank you
Speaker 2: for making the time. And then like, for real, boss, Bill,
Speaker 2: what what did you learn today? I learned a lot today,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say learned. I got reminded of a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that I've probably forgotten, like the impeachment process
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to.
Speaker 13: Reiterate thank you for coming to show we like you
Speaker 13: and I have been trying to get you here for
Speaker 13: a while, so we were thankful, thankful that you finally
Speaker 13: made it.
Speaker 9: So so glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Paid Bill, what'd you learn today? Bro?
Speaker 4: I learned what Alderman is. I learned that in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety three you signed your first record deal. It was
Speaker 4: the same year that I got bur Mitzvoot. That's important.
Speaker 1: Wow, You're like, yeah, yeah, that was a good year.
Speaker 4: I turned it to man anyway, and uh, And I
Speaker 4: wish that I was as knowledgeable about what I do
Speaker 4: as ans, because it's really impressive to listen to you
Speaker 4: speak like I'm not no no fucking around, like I
Speaker 4: can't talk. I love what I do and I can't
Speaker 4: talk about I think I'm good at it. Some other
Speaker 4: people do, and I Yeah, it's really impressive.
Speaker 1: That's all. So thanks. She speaks so well.
Speaker 9: In articulate, remember the Joe Biden moment.
Speaker 1: Articulate in less than two hundred and fifty words like
Speaker 1: tell me what you learned today at a low tone.
Speaker 6: Okay, you know I get excited movie, yes, you know
Speaker 6: people are like Okay.
Speaker 10: I learned a couple of things. I learned she will
Speaker 10: not be running for president. I learned that she will
Speaker 10: not be running for president, although I I do believe
Speaker 10: her because what I'm hoping for in the future is
Speaker 10: a black news network.
Speaker 6: Somebody's got to do it. I don't know.
Speaker 10: I just feel like angel Ro could get it done. Also,
Speaker 10: I learned some great periodicals to look for for fat
Speaker 10: I hope you guys took your notes. I also learned
Speaker 10: that a black man is running for governor in Florida
Speaker 10: and everybody should support that.
Speaker 6: What's his name again so I can write it down
Speaker 6: and Andrew.
Speaker 1: Gilli And and Florida.
Speaker 6: I learned what I already knew. Grow you dope, Steve.
Speaker 11: I learned that that you should have your own show. Yes,
Speaker 11: I've been watching it since Crossfire.
Speaker 7: I guess, no, I never.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 9: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Crossfire train, learned from cross.
Speaker 8: Fire and then you get Steve, know you need that time.
Speaker 9: I know what I said, debated.
Speaker 1: She's doing the Angela right now, what.
Speaker 8: Happened was and I said, I debated my dad light
Speaker 8: Crossfire growing up watching it.
Speaker 9: When the new Crossfire came back, I went non seen that.
Speaker 9: I was still they wout back?
Speaker 1: When did the check? Right now? Your the eighties, right, okay,
Speaker 1: try to fact check out seeing the Crossfire was like
Speaker 1: when they have the panel five people. I still thought
Speaker 1: that was an ongoing.
Speaker 8: Thing of they brought it back, but I wasn't there yet.
Speaker 8: I was still doing MSNBC anyway. Yes, Steve, we're listening
Speaker 8: about that.
Speaker 1: Rough you down like I always do. Stand this would
Speaker 1: be a great time for you to cut me off, okay,
Speaker 1: as usual because I always cut Steve off on show. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I learned that she does not funck with al Morossa, and.
Speaker 8: I appreciate y'all better not either. I'm gonna come for
Speaker 8: you and your Twitter feeds as well.
Speaker 2: Know I appreciate somebody again. You related like you name names,
Speaker 2: you like fu, you you like the Tupaca politics speaking speak,
Speaker 2: burst off?
Speaker 1: What's your Twitter handle on your Instagram handles and people?
Speaker 9: Twitter handle?
Speaker 8: Is Angela underscore Rye Because some white girl took my
Speaker 8: name before I was on She took it now it
Speaker 8: was it's her real name, to be fair, but she
Speaker 8: just got.
Speaker 9: The handle first I did.
Speaker 8: And then my Instagram handle is Angela Raie. All one
Speaker 8: word right like the bread.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I could have sworn that, you too, I could have
Speaker 1: sworn it. I gotta say your road call. You guys
Speaker 1: missed the golden moment to make all the ship, all
Speaker 1: the jewiness that all the things that you guys have discussed.
Speaker 11: It still wasn't the worst rod call of the night though.
Speaker 1: Collusion. I liked Bill's roll call. It was. It was
Speaker 1: funny anyway. Damn well, you guys covered. Oh I know
Speaker 1: I learned today. We learn today that Angelay single was
Speaker 1: a motherfucker.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: My thank you. Nah, I'm trying to I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be first dude in the White House. Anyway, Thank you
Speaker 1: and uh Fan Ticcolo and Boston Bill and once in
Speaker 1: future Angela Raie, thank you, thank you for coming on
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