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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to QLs Classic. My name is Quest Love, your host.

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Speaker 1: This particular episode of Quest Love Supreme is from twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: We did this on July twelfth. We got to speak

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Speaker 2: to Angela Rye.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oftentimes we only get to see these micro

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Speaker 1: CNN or maybe SNBC. But you know, she's a she's family,

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Speaker 1: she's friend of the show. And during this time period,

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Speaker 1: of course, we were like one year into that administration,

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of this stuff is timely, as far

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Speaker 2: as her entry into I guess being an freedom fighter.

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Speaker 1: If you will, so hope you enjoyed this episode. Angela. Right, well,

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Speaker 1: let's classic. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Suprema son Supremo, role called Supremo, Supremo, role called supremo,

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Speaker 3: some some supremo, role called Supremo.

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Speaker 1: He's really into Angelo Rise playlist Yeah, yeah, Chris loves playlist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Supreme Supremo, Supremo, some some Supremo.

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Speaker 1: My name is fante. Yeah, I get the props. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Angela's from Seattle. Yeah, like mix a lot.

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Speaker 3: Supreme Supremo, cal Supremo Supremo call.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sugar. Yeah, I don't get raucous. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now may I please join your black Hawks?

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Speaker 1: She is not leaving sign Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 4: I'm paid bill. Yeah, and how you doing? Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: can't stand it no more. Yeah, collusion.

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Speaker 5: Supreme roll Supreme son Son.

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Speaker 1: Supremo role is not ready yeah for this roll call? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah that's best for all.

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Speaker 3: Roll cal Supremo, so Supreme roll call Suprema some Supremo role.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's time yeah for Angelo rhyme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Some try to fight it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well she won't be to die.

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Speaker 1: Come son son, don't.

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Speaker 8: Sup roll names a ry Yeah and I got bars yeah.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sa twice already said she.

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Speaker 5: Supreme roll call Supreme up some Supreme roll call sub

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Speaker 5: bream up some supreme roll ladies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. As soon as I heard wrong, because I knew

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Speaker 1: what was coming in really really crazier. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: you were going to mix a lot. We so you

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Speaker 1: sound like a little bit of b real and you

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Speaker 1: remember when Big Dad knees dancer had b real iron

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Speaker 1: on on bro Bro School Love School. Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 1: you had school lover. Iis no, that was my mix

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Speaker 1: a lot in personal swell downe for Seattle. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode. I'm sorry, a very special What's

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Speaker 1: going Down episode? That's my that's my mama of quest

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Speaker 1: Love Supreme. Welcome ahead, Supreme, guys. How are you you're doing?

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Speaker 6: We ain't on an outfield or you know, on the.

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Speaker 1: Court, just sports. We run it out of sport. I

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Speaker 1: tense episode, but a serious episode. Let me just take

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Speaker 1: all the fun out the room right now for fun? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fun got revolutionaries got to have fun anymore.

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Speaker 9: I didn't even get to do a second.

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Speaker 6: You want it right now?

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Speaker 1: You want that's one. You mess up? You mess up,

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Speaker 1: that's interest. Yeah. Welcome to my world anyway, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: in our in our special What's going Down episode of Damn.

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Speaker 1: I forgot the name of my.

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Speaker 7: Show, what's happening?

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Speaker 5: Supreme?

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Speaker 1: I love this woman so much that I forgot the

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Speaker 1: name of my own damn show. You know, for me,

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Speaker 1: for the times that we live in, we've been spending

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Speaker 1: a lot of this time nerding out with our favorite

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Speaker 1: We rarely do anything leaning towards politics, but I guess

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Speaker 1: this alternative reality we're in right now than our next guest,

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Speaker 1: uh lawyer, Uh exactly in the role of the of

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Speaker 1: Black Caucus. Are you the board member the.

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Speaker 8: The so I serve on two of the Affiliate Organization board.

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Speaker 8: So there's the CBC Pack that's a political action committee.

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Speaker 9: I'm on that board.

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Speaker 8: I'm also on the CBC Institute Board, and I was

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Speaker 8: up my jersey sports moneypoor for you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm great with sports. Yeah, because the Bill's going

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Speaker 10: Y on some elementarycome angel a ride to Court Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Now what was he saying? Now?

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Speaker 10: I was just gonna say, can you break down with the

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Speaker 10: black CAUs does because there are people who really don't know.

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Speaker 8: Sure, they're often they don't know, especially those that say,

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Speaker 8: where's the Congressional White Caucus, as if the rest of

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Speaker 8: So the Congressional Black Caucus is an entity that was

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Speaker 1: So can I assume that most of the members of

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Speaker 8: Yes, there is one current member of the CBC who's Republican.

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Speaker 8: Her name is Mia Love. She is from Utah. My

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Speaker 1: Well, her last name was Love. So just so that

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Speaker 8: My dad normally says maybe the same plantation. That's what

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she has been active on some issues. She definitely

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Speaker 1: I see. So not why because I appreciate your your

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Speaker 8: His name is Eddie Ryder Jr. He's an activist in Seattle.

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Speaker 8: At the convention, I was getting ready to introduce Congressman Waters,

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Speaker 8: But she been doing this the nation's congresswoman. Queen magazine's

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Speaker 8: She's on the floor of the United States House of

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Speaker 8: can be blinded by their own political beliefs, why not

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Speaker 8: stand up in independent commissions to get.

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Speaker 9: To the bottom of the following one?

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Speaker 8: Why would Donald Trump not release his tax returns even

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Speaker 8: during the campaign. I think that if we're going to

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Speaker 8: have a transparent government, it needs to start from the

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Speaker 8: very beginning, so from the outset right. Problems began to

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Speaker 8: percolate during the campaign, So release the tax returns, really

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Speaker 8: look in at them to see if there's any debts

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Speaker 8: oh to Russia or any other foreign entities for that

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Speaker 8: matter that may have close ties to Russia. I think

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Speaker 8: the second thing to understand is who are all the players,

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Speaker 8: both from the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team,

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Speaker 8: who had any active involvement with Russian officials, Russian allies,

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Speaker 8: Russian businessmen, going from Paul Mannifort to Mike Pence. The

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Speaker 8: reason why Mike Pence recently had to lawyer up is

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Speaker 8: because he oversaw the entire transition team.

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Speaker 9: For those of you that don't know what a transition team.

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Speaker 8: Is, that is literally the body that is created to

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Speaker 8: transition from one presidential administration to another. So right after

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Speaker 8: the campaign they stand that up. I think the third

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Speaker 8: thing is understanding whether or not there were any past

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Speaker 8: dealings with Russia from a business standpoint or a personal standpoint.

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Speaker 8: There were a couple of things that Donald Trump did

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Speaker 8: on the campaign trail that should cause alarm. One, he

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Speaker 8: encouraged them to hack into Hillary Clinton's emails that nobody

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Speaker 8: could find at a press conference, so it's not like

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Speaker 8: this is a secret. And I can't remember the second

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Speaker 8: thing because it's been that kind of day.

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Speaker 9: I know it.

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Speaker 8: Else, there was another point, and actually this wasn't during

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Speaker 8: the campaign, but there was another point where he talked

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Speaker 8: about No, he actually did this on the debate stage

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 9: He talked about he would probably.

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Speaker 8: Get along very well with Vladimir Putin, so sending some

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Speaker 8: type of signal, and I don't know what that signaling was,

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Speaker 8: but I think shortly thereafter right there was this, you know,

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Speaker 8: from FBI Director Comy, there's a new investigation happening into

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Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton's emails.

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Speaker 9: That's two weeks before the election.

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Speaker 8: Why did FBI Director Comy feel like he needed to

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Speaker 8: do that if he originally thought that the actions taken

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Speaker 8: by Loretta Lynch were a bridge too far just by

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Speaker 8: sitting on the tarmac with Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 9: So there are all of these questions that are very fuzzy.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, my guess is maybe he was being blackmailed

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Speaker 1: or maybe and.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what your questions are.

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Speaker 10: But do y'all know that today I'm sorry, I watched

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Speaker 10: the news today said his approval rating in Russia is

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Speaker 10: like forty four percent here and Russia and I forget

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Speaker 10: the other country, but it's both not our friends.

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Speaker 6: But I just thought that was ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: That's your approval rating here among us, you know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the fuzzy Mike, I.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, who.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry believe.

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Speaker 8: But no, I just think that there are a number

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Speaker 8: of questions, and I think that what we could urge

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Speaker 8: the listeners, the American people to do is until those

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Speaker 8: baseline questions are answered, Like you just have to keep

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Speaker 8: pressing to ensure that we get to the bottom of

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Speaker 8: those truths. They're just too important and the answers could

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Speaker 8: be tremendously detrimental to the democracy. If we know there

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Speaker 8: was interference in the election, what motivated that interference?

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Speaker 9: Why wouldrush to.

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Speaker 8: Choose to interfere in this particular election when we know

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Speaker 8: from uh, from from intelligence that I think has now

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Speaker 8: been shared that Russia did not like Hillary Clinton, right,

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Speaker 8: So I just I think there are so many problems

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Speaker 8: with this. It's it truly is a movie. Like as

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Speaker 8: soon as he's done, hopefully in one more year, because

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Speaker 8: he'll get impeached, that's my prayer.

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Speaker 6: You don't want that. But because if he gets impeached,

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Speaker 6: then we get pissed.

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Speaker 8: I think because he lawyered up because whatever was happening

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Speaker 8: with Mike Flynn, he had to know about it at

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Speaker 8: the transition. So then we have Paul Ryan, who I

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Speaker 8: still prefer because he's had he can he can spell

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Speaker 8: right on a tweet.

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Speaker 9: You know, and I and I don't like Paul Ryan.

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Speaker 8: But what I will tell you is someone who came

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Speaker 8: from the Hill at a time when Republicans and Democrats

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Speaker 8: could at least talk to each other and find some

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Speaker 8: type of common ground, find some way to negotiate. I

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Speaker 8: would prefer someone who's got some type of sense.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ has to Yes.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you how bad it is. I want

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Speaker 8: to take a selfie with George W.

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Speaker 9: Bush. That's how.

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Speaker 6: They make the Super.

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Speaker 8: Bowl Like, oh, but you know what, there's something to

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Speaker 8: that too, because if we think about what happened in

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Speaker 8: two thousand with that Florida recount, it all really started there.

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Speaker 8: You cannot continue to rob people of their electoral power.

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Speaker 8: You can't continue to say one person, one vote, And

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Speaker 8: there's this electoral college system that frankly is rooted in

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Speaker 8: slavery and think that over time people are going to

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Speaker 8: be fine with that. We also, on the other hand,

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Speaker 8: can't be lulled to sleep by that. Like, if a

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Speaker 8: system doesn't work for us, and it is a democracy,

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Speaker 8: we need to change it.

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Speaker 6: But which call do you make?

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Speaker 10: It's like you need to change that, No, it's not

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Speaker 10: just which there are all of them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when you build a nation on racism and oppression,

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Speaker 8: nothing is working.

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Speaker 1: So what are effective especially in terms of how easy

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Speaker 1: it is to hack? Right now?

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Speaker 2: By the way, what happened to Anonymous? I heard Anonymous?

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Speaker 2: Are they alive?

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Speaker 1: Like? I almost feel as though what was anonymous Anonymous

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Speaker 1: was like they were like a group of hackers, hackers

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Speaker 1: that were kind of on our side. They were like

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Speaker 1: the occupied Wall Street of hackers.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, but I heard they got infiltrated by the

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Speaker 2: fares though, like the robot.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, or maybe Vladimiritu.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna say. But what would in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: what are effective voting options?

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Speaker 6: If no electoral college, if we don't have it, well.

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Speaker 1: What would the idea scenario of voting be for the

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Speaker 1: times we live in now?

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Speaker 6: Popular vote?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So no, I think popular vote would be ideal. But

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Speaker 8: I think there's a middle road, and that would be

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Speaker 8: proportional representation in the electoral college. It shouldn't be winner

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Speaker 8: take all. That's not a one person, one vote strategy.

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Speaker 8: And there's a nonprofit that's been pushing legislation through state legislatures.

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Speaker 8: You know that you all know that's one of the

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Speaker 8: ways that you can change the constitution, and the legislation

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Speaker 8: is just is very simple.

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Speaker 10: It's just did not know that. I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 10: because somebody out there is listening. They're like, I don't know, No,

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Speaker 10: I did not know that.

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Speaker 8: Okay, that's good, look up more information on the internet.

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Speaker 8: But basically there's all not for you. I'm just saying

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Speaker 8: I'm not to get in all that. It doesn't even

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you when.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that a big words, just like, wait, okay,

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Speaker 1: any any information that you think might be a little

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Speaker 1: too lengthy, whatever, just say it. Okay, trust we got time.

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Speaker 9: So No, I just think.

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Speaker 11: Is down to.

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Speaker 9: She was doing it for the people. I did it

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Speaker 9: by the culture.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 8: But I think that what they've done is very good

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Speaker 8: because they're pushing these measures through state legislatures that say,

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Speaker 8: proportional representation is how we should be utilizing the electoral college.

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Speaker 8: It shouldn't be that if you won this state by

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Speaker 8: fifty one percent, you get all of the electoral college.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 4: Transfer question, how does he actually get impeached? I feel like,

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Speaker 4: how much crazy? Shi it has to go on over

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Speaker 4: the next year, you would hope for him actually to

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Speaker 4: get impeached.

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Speaker 8: Can I just say that if this was Barack Obama,

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Speaker 8: he would have been impeached.

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Speaker 1: Yea, would goddamn ticket.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, when you when you said when you were arguing

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Speaker 10: with that dude, did you talk to about being a

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Speaker 10: bigger or whatever you were like if you were like

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Speaker 10: if Obama had five baby mamas and Obama had did

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Speaker 10: on grabed chicks coo cheese, white chicks, coo cheese, like

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Speaker 10: this would never ever, That's just that, that's just the

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Speaker 10: just siritated.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but get peached. Yeah, I'm sorry, Fine, but.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Someone will have to lose their life. But I don't even.

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Speaker 12: Shot somebody on Yeah, the video the p videos got

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Speaker 12: a surface.

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Speaker 9: Kelly from Podunk.

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Speaker 8: They will be like, well, I wish you would have

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Speaker 8: paid read what.

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Speaker 2: Is the what is the process of impeachment? Like do

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Speaker 2: you know that if you can't just break it down?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's so that's not a breakdownable thing. But I'll try.

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Speaker 8: I'll try. I think I think one of the one

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Speaker 8: of the things that's immediately before us is what's happening

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Speaker 8: with the special prosecutor. So if the president were to

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Speaker 8: be fine to have broken the law, that's something that's impeachable.

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Speaker 8: We still need the Congress to act on that. And

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Speaker 8: I think the challenge for us is in normal times,

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Speaker 8: Republicans and Democrats could lay party aside to do the

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Speaker 8: right thing.

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Speaker 1: So is Congress just turning a blind eye because they

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Speaker 1: don't want they don't want the stain of it's gonna

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Speaker 1: make Republicans look bad and will never be trusted.

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Speaker 8: In one example all of that, Paul Ryan said the

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Speaker 8: other day, well, you know he's new, Yeah, what are

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Speaker 8: you talking about?

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Speaker 9: Willis like anyway.

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Speaker 8: So the point is that there are several things that

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Speaker 8: could be deemed impeachable offenses. And if he were to

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Speaker 8: have found to be found to have obstructed justice with

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Speaker 8: FBI director come or something else surfaces, that's an impeachable offense.

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Speaker 8: I think Democrats would begin to really hunker down on

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Speaker 8: calling for his impeachment and Republicans that have to make

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Speaker 8: a game time decision about doing the right thing, and

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Speaker 8: right now that's been tough. Like even for example, John McCain,

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Speaker 8: who's normally deemed maverick, decided to take on Kamala Harrison

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Speaker 8: in the middle of her questions instead of what that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that was just that was not just

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Speaker 4: what there was racist. It was all the in a row,

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Speaker 4: like however you can do.

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Speaker 8: That is what Donald Trump is in essence, though, isn't

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Speaker 8: Yeah every day on Twitter talking about Barack Obama colluding

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Speaker 8: with the Russians instead of the.

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Speaker 1: Fact with perfect grammar that time.

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Speaker 8: When he said unprecedented though, yeah, not precedented.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever misunderstand. That's my intelligence.

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Speaker 1: It was Mary.

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Speaker 6: Can we not throw Mary Ato?

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Speaker 1: I love Mary?

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Speaker 9: Because kind did her wrong day.

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Speaker 1: Don't talk about it back the other day though? Was

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Speaker 1: that new or old?

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Speaker 9: That was that's new?

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Speaker 6: That's b e t.

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Speaker 8: The BT Awards, trying to steal her.

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Speaker 1: He went under her Instagram. He's like, yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: praised the album.

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Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, and but yeah, he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you chose.

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Speaker 9: Are you doing? We should talk?

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Speaker 8: Boy?

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Speaker 9: Good night?

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Speaker 6: You missing the fame? Boo, you're missing it?

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Speaker 1: Man.

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00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 8: No, he wants that bigger alimony check anyway, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I love that so uh well. At least another question

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Speaker 1: is I heard that perhaps a movement or a migration

671
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Speaker 1: to Red States or red territories might be in order,

672
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Speaker 1: but well that really for instance, what happened in Georgia,

673
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Speaker 1: uh with the with the good question is that will

674
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Speaker 1: that be an effective solution?

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Speaker 2: Like, well, more democrats movies, some of us have to yeah,

676
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Speaker 2: move to going back to Indiana.

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Speaker 9: You know, here's the thing.

678
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Speaker 8: What frustrates me is it doesn't even require mass migration,

679
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Speaker 8: Like we have enough people. There are over five hundred

680
00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 8: thousand unregistered black folks in Georgia, unregistered voters. Yeah, we

681
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 8: could change an election with five hundred thousand unregistered voters.

682
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Speaker 6: How do you think that is?

683
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Speaker 9: I think that people.

684
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 8: Feel, like rightfully so that over time, democracy for everyone

685
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 8: else has not been democracy for us. That like we

686
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 8: just talked about a system of racism and oppression, doesn't

687
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 8: serve them, a police department that shoots and kills.

688
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 9: Rather than protects and serves.

689
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 8: There's so many reasons why people don't feel like the

690
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Speaker 8: system has worked for them.

691
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Speaker 9: Nevertheless, it's the system we have.

692
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Speaker 8: You know, until we work to perfect it, it's gonna

693
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Speaker 8: be the same broken mess. And so we're in, I

694
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 8: think a very dangerous cycle where we say, well, it

695
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Speaker 8: hasn't worked for us, so I'm not gonna go work

696
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Speaker 8: for it, but it's never gonna work for us unless

697
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Speaker 8: we work for it. We have to fix it. And

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 8: some of that change comes internally, Like you know, people

699
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 8: are always like, oh, you should run for office, you know,

700
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Speaker 8: but I'm like, that's not my calling. I'm happy to

701
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Speaker 8: help other people figure out how to be equipped to

702
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Speaker 8: run and all of that. But people also have to

703
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Speaker 8: lean into that idea, and so often we don't and don't.

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Speaker 10: Arnt you involved with a couple of packs that are

705
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Speaker 10: raising young African American like politicians.

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Speaker 8: One of my favorite packs right now is Collective Pack

707
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 8: founded by two friends, Stephanie Brown James and Quinton James,

708
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Speaker 8: and they're doing marvelous work. They just have their first

709
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Speaker 8: training of African American young folks who want to run

710
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 8: for office at Howard University last week.

711
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 9: Doing great work, doing great work, And.

712
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Speaker 8: So yes, I thought, those are some of the ways

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Speaker 8: that we can get back with our time, our talent,

714
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Speaker 8: and our treasure.

715
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Speaker 9: Another church analogy.

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Speaker 2: Break down exactly what a pack is and what it does.

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Speaker 8: Sure, a political action committee is an entity that is

718
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 8: charged with raising money and it's not tied to any

719
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Speaker 8: specific campaign per se. There are some entities that are

720
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Speaker 8: you know, direct to candidate or their leadership packs.

721
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Speaker 9: But a pack is an.

722
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Speaker 8: Entity that you stand up to raise money, to help

723
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Speaker 8: train people up to endorse candidates.

724
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Speaker 1: But what's it really used for?

725
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Speaker 9: What do you mean?

726
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Speaker 1: Well, not that's what it's supposed to be. But how

727
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Speaker 1: is it being I wanted people to know how it's

728
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Speaker 1: being abused?

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Speaker 8: Oh okay, well in some instances, Uh, there are a

730
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Speaker 8: number of.

731
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Speaker 9: Packs that are steed up, especially super PACs.

732
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Speaker 8: That are just used to kind of farm out ads, advertisements,

733
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Speaker 8: political ads.

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Speaker 10: Brothers, a lot of people like the Koch brothers and

735
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Speaker 10: their impacts and stuff, and well.

736
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Speaker 8: And even if it's not affiliated with the Kochs, there

737
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Speaker 8: are entities on the Democratic side of the that use.

738
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Speaker 9: Frankly, just to be competitive.

739
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Speaker 8: This Georgia race cost fifty million dollars, you know, and

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Speaker 8: a lot of times.

741
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Speaker 1: Are there power brokers and Democrats because besides Bill Bill

742
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Speaker 1: mar there I say it, he gives this obligatory two

743
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Speaker 1: million a year in Spielberg and Harvey Woods, Harvey Weinstein

744
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Speaker 1: does his little five million, like where are our Cooke brothers?

745
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Speaker 8: You know, the Moss is one. What's the other guy's named?

746
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Speaker 8: This and involved in kind of green energy. I can't

747
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Speaker 8: think of his name right now, but there are there

748
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Speaker 8: are some, and I.

749
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Speaker 1: Didn't know that everyone looked like a.

750
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Speaker 8: Definitely, they're definitely more on the Republican side of the aisle.

751
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Speaker 8: But the other problem that we have is that too

752
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Speaker 8: often money spent in races or even with political action

753
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Speaker 8: committees are used on vendors, and they're vendors who don't

754
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Speaker 8: know how to reach We talked about that five hundred thousand.

755
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Speaker 9: Cohort in Georgia.

756
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Speaker 8: If you're hiring all white vendors, all white male vendors

757
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Speaker 8: who all work together on the same campaign, you're not

758
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Speaker 8: reaching a new audience. You're reaching the same people. That's

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Speaker 8: why you can't win. When you look at the candidate

760
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Speaker 8: recruitment strategy, whether it's at the D Triple C, which

761
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Speaker 8: is the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, there's a Citate version

762
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Speaker 8: of that. You know, there's the Democratic Governors Association, you're

763
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Speaker 8: not looking at black and brown and Asian candidates who

764
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Speaker 8: can run not just in congressional districts but also statewide.

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Speaker 8: I have a good friend of mine who's running for

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Speaker 8: governor in Florida, Andrew Gillam who is the mayor of

767
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Speaker 8: tallahassee right now on the leaked email from Hillary Clinton's campaign,

768
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Speaker 8: was on the on the short list for a potential

769
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Speaker 8: VP pick. It's being slept on right now by DGA

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Speaker 8: and others. You know, And this is a young black

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Speaker 8: guy that's doing things completely different.

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Speaker 6: Does he have a chance, I mean Florida, he does

773
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Speaker 6: have a chance.

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Speaker 8: He raised a million dollars in the first three months

775
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Speaker 8: of his campaign. Okay, absolutely say his name again, So everybody,

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Speaker 8: Andrew Gilliam, thank you, okay, and so okay.

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Speaker 1: So that leads me to the question of how do

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Speaker 1: you reach people? Now, I'll say that a lot of

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Speaker 1: my a lot of my political involvement came at sort

780
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Speaker 1: of like the tail end of two thousand and seven,

781
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Speaker 1: back when there was a glimmer of hope that oh god, okay,

782
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Speaker 1: this could really happen for us. And of course, you know,

783
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Speaker 1: Obama also benefited from really using the Internet to his

784
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Speaker 1: advantage and reaching people. So now as we stand ten

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Speaker 1: years later, I get a lot of panic emails from

786
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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and you know, like just the the usual characters,

787
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Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of times it's just like

788
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Speaker 1: I feel guilty from working in suspam because I do. Nevertheless,

789
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, but you see you see the subject line

790
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Speaker 1: is Nancy Pelosi, we need you amor no. That that

791
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Speaker 1: was like two thirteen. That was just like nigga, I'm

792
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Speaker 1: nigga cooking up fans. I can't wait. One Pelosi email

793
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Speaker 1: got me good, and I was just like, all right,

794
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Speaker 1: I'll let me get my and I did it again,

795
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Speaker 1: and already it was like, well, you're already a monthly contributor.

796
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Speaker 1: Like I didn't realize, like Jesus Christ, I'm already a

797
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Speaker 1: month Oh you got to direct like that.

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Speaker 8: What if they weren't even if you weren't monthly and

799
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Speaker 8: they just told you that that would be funny.

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Speaker 1: I know. But still, well that also leads to it's

801
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Speaker 1: this might be blasphemous say it. Do you feel that

802
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: we might need a change and leadership?

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Speaker 8: Yes, So here's what I will tell you. She as

804
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Speaker 8: a leader, she's been very effective. The reason why Nancy

805
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 8: Pelosi is still the Democratic leader is because she knows

806
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 8: how to raise money better than anybody else. And that's

807
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Speaker 8: a money raising job. Maybe it shouldn't be, but that's

808
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Speaker 8: what it is. Right now, what I'll.

809
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Speaker 9: Tell you is.

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Speaker 8: There are several things that we need and that is

811
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Speaker 8: not the top of where I would start.

812
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Speaker 9: Right.

813
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Speaker 8: Just for an example, the DNC just had kind of

814
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Speaker 8: a massive overhaul after the camp paign. We know that

815
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 8: Donna Brazil is filling in as an interim chair, just

816
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 8: like completely crushed it. She did so much that people

817
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 8: don't know. But just wait, I'm sure she will release

818
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Speaker 8: a book and seriously, and then now you have Tom

819
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Speaker 8: Perez who's heading up the DNC, my friend Michael Blake

820
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Speaker 8: who's a vice chair at the DNC. Two people of

821
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Speaker 8: color at the top, and before Donna Brazil, we hadn't

822
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Speaker 8: had that since Ron Brown, you know, like I mean,

823
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Speaker 8: it's it's been it's been a while, right, And of

824
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 8: course Donna Brazil had been vice chair, but not at

825
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Speaker 8: the top. So my thing to you would be, we

826
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Speaker 8: first need to ensure that the party writ large is okay,

827
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Speaker 8: who are the state party chairs? How are they serving

828
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Speaker 8: the communities that they're supposed to be? You know, this

829
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Speaker 8: big tent, this idea of a big tent, how is

830
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Speaker 8: the tent enlarging under these state parties chairs?

831
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Speaker 6: Leadership?

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Speaker 9: Nancy Pelosi is is in politics?

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Speaker 8: We have a messaging strategy called the boogeyman strategy. Right,

834
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 8: it's the boogeyman approach. Nancy Pelosi is the boogeyman. And

835
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Speaker 8: the reason why they went back to that approach most

836
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 8: recently in this special election in Georgia is because it worked.

837
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Speaker 8: When Michael Steele was chairman of the RNC, they had

838
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Speaker 8: the fire Pelosi pins.

839
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Speaker 9: It worked very well.

840
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Speaker 8: Part of what you should interpret from that is that,

841
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 8: more than anything else in this country where people really

842
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 8: bond is the fear of women in leadership. It's not

843
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Speaker 8: about I'm just being honest with you. It's not about

844
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Speaker 8: Nancy Pelosi in the job she's doing. We could ask

845
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Speaker 8: all these people why we should get rid of Nancy

846
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Speaker 8: Pelosi and they wouldn't be able to give you a

847
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Speaker 8: reason because she'd been there a long time. Okay, so

848
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Speaker 8: was Harry Reid until he just retired. So was everybody

849
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Speaker 8: else in democratic leadership. So what is the real issue?

850
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Speaker 8: And I think the real issue is she's this liberal,

851
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Speaker 8: this uber liberal from California, and she's a woman. And

852
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 8: that is partially for Hillary Clinton. The woman issue us

853
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 8: her big problem. People can understand why evangelicals during the

854
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 8: campaign were flocking towards towards koochie grabbing Donald Trump. And

855
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 8: the reason for that is, more than anything else. In

856
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 8: the church, you're taught that a woman cannot be the

857
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Speaker 8: head of a household. She definitely ain't about to be

858
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Speaker 8: your pastor, and so she is not going.

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Speaker 9: To be your commander in chief.

860
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Speaker 8: So Nancy Pelosi at the top of the house scares people,

861
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Speaker 8: and to some of them, it is like it's out

862
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Speaker 8: of order, you know, like a woman is not supposed

863
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Speaker 8: to have that role. We're so ass backwards in this country.

864
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Speaker 8: But anyway, I'm just telling you, I don't I wouldn't

865
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Speaker 8: mind if Nancy Pelosi decided to retire. I just did

866
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Speaker 8: not for it on those things like what is the

867
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Speaker 8: real reason why they're pushing for her retirement when they

868
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 8: literally don't know the role of a democratic leader. Why

869
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Speaker 8: aren't you talking about the DNC and figuring out how to

870
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Speaker 8: help us identify who we really are? Why are we

871
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Speaker 8: not talking about you know, the fact that the white

872
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 8: working class issues are the same as black and brown

873
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Speaker 8: and Asian folks. Working class issues like those are the

874
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Speaker 8: issues we should.

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Speaker 9: Be focused on, not damn Nancy.

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Speaker 1: Pelosi when you speak of they and wanting Nancy Pelosi

877
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Speaker 1: out of there? Are you speaking of fellow Democrats?

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00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 8: There are some, I think there are There are a

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Speaker 8: few who for example, you know, Tim Ryan ran against

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Speaker 8: her in the leadership elections.

881
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Speaker 9: This time.

882
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Speaker 8: Of course, Tim Ryan goes on air on I think

883
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Speaker 8: it was Don le Min Show last week, was like, yeah,

884
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Speaker 8: we need change.

885
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Speaker 9: Of course you said it, Yeah, you wanted to be

886
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Speaker 9: the change.

887
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Speaker 8: And how much is how much change would that be

888
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Speaker 8: to go back to a white man in leadership?

889
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Speaker 9: You know, I mean a less So it's I don't know.

890
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Speaker 8: To me, it's like it's time for us to shake

891
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 8: up how we perceive leadership. I would love to see

892
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Speaker 8: more people of color in those roles, but that's not it,

893
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Speaker 8: you know. And I don't think that Nancy Pelosi always

894
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Speaker 8: gets it right. But I don't think the answer is

895
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Speaker 8: to put another white man in charge.

896
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Speaker 1: Wow, and you said it. What I want to know

897
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Speaker 1: is with entertainers usually seen as the go to, I mean,

898
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Speaker 1: we now live in a time in which you know,

899
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Speaker 1: little Yachty might have more excuse the collective colective eyebrow shut.

900
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Speaker 6: I could do a Joe Blade walk.

901
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Speaker 1: If the collective eyebrow look at me was like, but

902
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is where we are, as where our

903
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Speaker 1: kids are, where we are where you know, entertainers have

904
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Speaker 1: more collateral and and say and you know than someone

905
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Speaker 1: with or perceived as someone would sense. So that said, uh,

906
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Speaker 1: how can we how do we utilize those who are

907
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Speaker 1: listened to? Is there going to have to be a

908
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: reach across the aisle?

909
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Speaker 6: How do we shut up a little?

910
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Speaker 9: Wayne?

911
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Just in case I don't even think he's a factor anymore.

912
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Speaker 6: I mean every once and again, I mean.

913
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Speaker 1: It happened, yeah, but his time was ten years ago,

914
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Speaker 1: like now it's it's it's the old Wayne. Yes, migos could.

915
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Speaker 7: Say, get you.

916
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, look now, uh, jay Z's new direction with four

917
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Speaker 1: forty four is leaning politically heavier than he's ever ever

918
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Speaker 1: ever been. How effective will that be as far as

919
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: getting people? Because you know, again it's who do they

920
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: call on to get people to the polls? They Hillary

921
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Speaker 1: called on, Gaga called on Katy Perry called on well.

922
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Speaker 8: Maybe to be fair working popular vote.

923
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again again, like the numbers of the twenty

924
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Speaker 1: sixteen election are still up in the air because in

925
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Speaker 1: the perfect world, did she win, you know, like we

926
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Speaker 1: don't know popular vote, right, so thus how effective is that?

927
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Speaker 8: Well, I want to push back on that idea a

928
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Speaker 8: little bit. I think that there was a time, you know,

929
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Speaker 8: in particular in two thousand and eight, where entertainers had

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Speaker 8: all the gravitas to push every GOOTV Get out the

931
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Speaker 8: Vote initiative and people did rely on them. And then

932
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Speaker 8: Twitter happened, and then Instagram happened, and then Snapchat happened.

933
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Speaker 8: And what has happened is platforms like these have democratized

934
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Speaker 8: voices so that you don't necessarily have to be Jay

935
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Speaker 8: Z or Beyonce or Gaga to mobilize audiences.

936
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Speaker 9: You can mobilize your own.

937
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Speaker 8: And while it may not be on the same level,

938
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Speaker 8: there are still folks that have millions of followers for

939
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Speaker 8: drawing on a mean eyebrow, you know, on YouTube, and

940
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Speaker 8: so I think that we I'm being honest, so and

941
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Speaker 8: literally a main eyebrow too. Anyway, I digress, But the

942
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Speaker 8: point is I don't know that that really works as

943
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Speaker 8: much as anymore, and I think that we have to

944
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Speaker 8: be far more creative and engagement. And what that probably

945
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Speaker 8: really means is that by the time you're standing up

946
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Speaker 8: a campaign and you are developing your public engagement and

947
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Speaker 8: your social impact initiatives.

948
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Speaker 9: It's too late. There's something.

949
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Speaker 8: And this takes me back full circle to the point

950
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Speaker 8: I was raising about party chairs on the ground. You

951
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 8: have to have almost a system like we talk so

952
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 8: much about community policing where it's just real relationships with folks.

953
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 9: You just have to have real relationships with.

954
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Speaker 8: Folks and people feel like you represent their interests and

955
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Speaker 8: not feeling like, oh, you went to my church and

956
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 8: waved the fan or shook the tambourine or even you know,

957
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Speaker 8: rock on beat with the tenor section, like you did

958
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Speaker 8: more than that, and it wasn't just two weeks before

959
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Speaker 8: the election, like people know now you know.

960
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Speaker 9: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: So I think that influencers have a role, but they

962
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Speaker 8: aren't anywhere near as influential as they were in a

963
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Speaker 8: wait because of these other platforms.

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Speaker 1: Well could that grassroots? I'm glad you brought that up,

965
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Speaker 1: because you know, I, for one, I believe that like

966
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Speaker 1: my personal life goal at least where I am now

967
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Speaker 1: in my career or my monetary level, I mean my

968
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Speaker 1: personal life goal where I am right now if were

969
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Speaker 1: all to end, is I mean, can I effectively affect

970
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Speaker 1: the lives of fifty people personally push them in the direction,

971
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Speaker 1: which people don't you know a lot of people have

972
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Speaker 1: this whole the Michael Jackson, you know, heal the world,

973
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Speaker 1: Save the world, you know, and you're thinking of millions

974
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Speaker 1: of people, whereas you know, you see the Barocks campaign

975
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Speaker 1: start off on a grassroots level, which you know people

976
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Speaker 1: scoffed at, like, well, what good at grassroots doing? But

977
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Speaker 1: how how does the grassroots level? How effective will that be?

978
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Speaker 1: And will we get there in time for the mid

979
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Speaker 1: terms or twenty twenty, because I do feel as though

980
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Speaker 1: the grassroots level has to start sure, starts with the community,

981
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Speaker 1: starts with the block.

982
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Speaker 9: Absolutely.

983
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Speaker 1: Is Alderman still a thing like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he ran, Yeah, he ran, he lost. He was

985
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Speaker 2: running against he would be a great person to have

986
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Speaker 2: on the show, but he was running against like the incumbent.

987
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Speaker 1: He was like this cop guy that.

988
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Speaker 6: Like Chicago, Chicago.

989
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah he lost.

990
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Speaker 13: It was Alderman on good Time, Alderman, James, I think change.

991
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Speaker 6: We can't even get.

992
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Speaker 9: Hilarious.

993
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: What is it? Okay? What is the Alderman's job? Is

994
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: that like slightly above block captain or look it up

995
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Speaker 1: on Wikipedia. Man ay right out what happened? I personally.

996
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Speaker 6: You don't have one. Probably maybe you don't.

997
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 8: Have but I think here, here, I think is the

998
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 8: point we can't afford not to engage in grassroots level advocacy.

999
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Speaker 8: And the point that you're raising, I think is one

1000
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Speaker 8: that's really important.

1001
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Speaker 9: We don't know the true.

1002
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 8: Impact of what Barack Obama did to mobilize people in

1003
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Speaker 8: two thousand and seven. In two thousand and eight, via

1004
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 8: online platforms, you could go and set up a house

1005
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 8: meeting on his website. Hillary Clinton didn't do any of that,

1006
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 8: you know, And I think that it was just it

1007
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Speaker 8: was just different. It's not that she didn't do any

1008
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 8: of that. She didn't do it as in depth. She

1009
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 8: didn't personally go into it in as many communities.

1010
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she went in kind of a tone deaf campaign

1011
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: in my opinion. I mean, I thought she, you know.

1012
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 6: She was gonna win, and kind of felt like, right,

1013
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 6: I think.

1014
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: It was some of that, some of the entitlement, but

1015
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: it was just yeah, when you whipping and on, I

1016
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: was just like, this is not gonna end. Well, she

1017
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: was playing the satisfone on our City on Hall so

1018
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: but I mean, but he actually was playing it good,

1019
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: not like.

1020
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't Chris wasn't I would.

1021
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 8: Rather and carrying hot sauce in her bag didn't have themselves. Well,

1022
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 8: I mean she really, she really does carry hot sauce

1023
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 8: in her bag. But I will say this, I would

1024
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 8: rather have her any day. And when you all deem

1025
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 8: as tone death than what we have right now, she

1026
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 8: looks like the mother of Jesus right now compared to that.

1027
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 8: So anyway, the only point that I'm raising to you

1028
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 8: is we can't afford not to find out what happens

1029
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 8: if we don't. Right Like to your point about the midterms,

1030
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 8: twenty eighteen is right around the corner.

1031
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 9: It is creeping. I mean, we are halfway through this year.

1032
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Do you have hopes of something happening in twenty eighteen?

1033
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: What's the most that we could learn for it? Could

1034
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 1: we get some chairs, could we.

1035
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 8: Potentially get the house with miracles? The challenge that we

1036
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 8: have is there's something called a redistricting process that happened,

1037
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 8: and in the last redistricting process in most states, they

1038
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 8: drew these congressional districts very conservatively. And what they did

1039
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 8: far better than us, is they were strategically targeting state

1040
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 8: legislatures to run run for seats and win, and so

1041
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 8: we hold very few state legislatures, we hold very few governorships.

1042
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 8: Those are the entities that construct those state lines in

1043
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 8: the redistricting process.

1044
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 11: And I asked, and I asked questions since you're kind

1045
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 11: of leading into this, and it's sort of a parallel

1046
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 11: to I guess mainly talking about federal politics or tonight, right.

1047
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 11: And I think we've all known and been taught for

1048
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 11: a long time that as an individualised the most effect

1049
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 11: in local politics. And it seems like in order of

1050
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 11: the things that we're obsessed with in politics, it's everybody's

1051
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 11: obsessed with federal politics, where they have the least amount of, say,

1052
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 11: and some interest in state politics of who's the governor

1053
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 11: and who's the and yeah, and then local politics nobody

1054
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 11: gives a shit at all, Like you don't know who's

1055
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 11: running for you know.

1056
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: What's aldermen? Right?

1057
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 11: Like why you know, we know for a fact we

1058
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 11: should be much you know, it should be like you said,

1059
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 11: asked backwards. This seems asked backwards to me, like where

1060
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 11: people's obsessions in politics lie.

1061
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Speaker 8: So and I think that part of this is, you know,

1062
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 8: not only is it our responsibility, but I would say

1063
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 8: it's the responsibility of the media. How often do you

1064
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 8: turn on the local news and hear about what's going

1065
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 8: on in a city council meeting or you know, in

1066
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 8: a city council hearing if it's not a big vote

1067
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 8: coming up, like a huge ever, hear about it.

1068
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Speaker 6: Or a fight or shooting at the or that Saint

1069
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Speaker 6: Louis this opens.

1070
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Speaker 9: Just like Compton DJ Quick said it.

1071
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 8: So I think that the point is you just never

1072
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 8: know anything that's going on on the local level, you know,

1073
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 8: unless you get to the B section in your newspaper,

1074
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 8: and who reads newspapers anymore? You can go to Twitter

1075
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 8: and find your headlines and click on that article. So

1076
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 8: I think the responsibility is in part on the media.

1077
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 8: But as a result, again going back to the idea

1078
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 8: of being taxpayers, we have to figure out how to

1079
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Speaker 8: go and get that information. And it's frustrating and really

1080
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 8: hard to encourage people to do that in a day

1081
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 8: and age where everything comes to you, like you don't

1082
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 8: have to.

1083
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 9: Go get your news, you get an alert on your phone.

1084
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 8: So how how do you tell people in a space

1085
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 8: where attention spans are short and everything comes to them

1086
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 8: to go out and get it. It's hard and I

1087
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 8: don't really know the answer to this. I also just

1088
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 8: said this at the panel I was on for BT

1089
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 8: Genius Talks. I am, truly, I think a great example

1090
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 8: of a hypocrite in this space. I very rarely know

1091
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 8: anything about what's happening on the local level politically, and

1092
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 8: it's horrible. If it wasn't for my dad giving me

1093
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 8: his Philipbruster rundown on the phone to night, even at

1094
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 8: home and Seattle, I just wouldn't know because I'm not

1095
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 8: as interested in it, and I know it impacts my

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Speaker 8: everyday life a lot more. We talk about there's just

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Speaker 8: another shooting death in Seattle by the police department, Charlene

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Speaker 8: and Lyles.

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Speaker 9: You know that is something that I care about.

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Speaker 8: And to my credit, I tweeted about one of my

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Speaker 8: good friends who's a city council member, so she's probably

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Speaker 8: ready to choke me. She hears this Lorena Gonzalez in Seattle,

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Speaker 8: who was holding a town hall meeting about what happened

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Speaker 8: in that shooting death.

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Speaker 9: And very rarely do.

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Speaker 8: You see things like that happening where city councilors like

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Speaker 8: I know, we're culpable, we have a problem.

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Speaker 9: Let's come and talk about it.

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Speaker 8: That's a big thing because we don't ever feel heard,

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Speaker 8: and that's why you see some of those protest actions happening,

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Speaker 8: because people are like, we pay y'all and you're still

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Speaker 8: killing us.

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Speaker 9: So full circle.

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Speaker 8: I do need to do a lot more myself, But

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Speaker 8: I talk about what I know because that's where I

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Speaker 8: worked and that's what I'm most interested in.

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Speaker 9: But that's not right.

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Speaker 11: I meant, in general, it seems like everybody's much more interested.

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Speaker 8: No, no, I agree with I was just using my own

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Speaker 8: hypocrisy as an example.

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Speaker 2: My question, my question for you is like, how what

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Speaker 2: are reputable news sources for you? Because we were joking

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Speaker 2: earlier about a movie and stuff, but real rap, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of it's just in the age we live

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Speaker 2: in of social media, where information flies fast and disinformation

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Speaker 2: and misinformation flies even faster. Yeah, after a while, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you I open my Twitter feed and I'm just like bullshit,

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Speaker 2: bullshit my line bullshit.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: It's just like, are you following well?

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Speaker 1: I mean I follow CNN and I follow all the

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Speaker 1: big you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I try to get quote unquote both sides,

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Speaker 2: but after a while, it just is a lot of

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Speaker 2: just words words.

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Speaker 9: We need both sides.

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Speaker 8: So at this point it's a it's a human decency issue,

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Speaker 8: right like this, This is not a partisan issue where

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Speaker 8: you're just seeing it from another lens. It literally is about,

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Speaker 8: you know, morality at this point. On the other side

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Speaker 8: of that, who are your five go to.

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Speaker 9: Periodicals or whatever?

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01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 8: I would say New York Times, CNN, l A Times,

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Speaker 8: Seattle Times because I'm from there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I like the route. What else? Political?

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Speaker 6: For Hill News, I gotta get the act together.

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Speaker 9: The roots?

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Speaker 8: All right, that's fair too, But as soon as we

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01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 8: get to favorite groups and the best live show, we'll

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Speaker 8: talk about the roots.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, the root and then I also I said

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Speaker 9: the political political, the Hill? What else?

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Speaker 7: Washington Post?

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Speaker 8: Washington Post is also a good one, but yeah, I

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Speaker 8: normally those are my are my go.

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Speaker 10: Tos Yo you mentioned, I mean just you mentioned your

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Speaker 10: phone getting hacked. But have you you You're very we

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Speaker 10: all know you're very vocal. I know you hold back,

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Speaker 10: but doesn't seem like it on TV. Have you running

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Speaker 10: the situations where you've been threatened in that way in

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Speaker 10: some way?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, there was one I only had Thank god, I've

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Speaker 8: only had one death threat situation that had to be reported,

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Speaker 8: and several people even on my feed also reported it,

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Speaker 8: not just to Twitter, but like to the FEDS, like, hey,

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Speaker 8: this is seems like a legitimate issue. And actually it

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Speaker 8: happened while I was getting off the plane in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 9: We talked about Saint Louis earlier.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I think that there are definitely some legitimate issues.

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Speaker 8: And I think regardless of how outspoken I've been, I've

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Speaker 8: not been threatened at any degree, at any degree or

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Speaker 8: at any level. The same of some of my friends

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Speaker 8: who are really doing the on the ground activist work.

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Speaker 1: So activist work, what is what is your view or

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Speaker 1: your take on we're actives stands now? Do we need

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Speaker 1: a figurehead? Do we need a Malcolm? Do we need

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Speaker 1: a Martin? Do we need a do we have one?

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Speaker 6: And we just don't know?

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Speaker 9: No, I think that is different.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people are vying for a position,

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Speaker 1: but you know, but as far as not non Washington politics,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the the ongoing problem of shooting

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Speaker 1: unarmed people, it's still you know, we're as far as

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Speaker 1: where we are today. What is your view on activism

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Speaker 1: and it's participants mainly those that are, you know, saying

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Speaker 1: that they've started this movement or that sort of thing,

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Speaker 1: and I I.

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Speaker 8: Really don't care about the who started what discussion. I

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Speaker 8: am grateful for for the work of the women who

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Speaker 8: founded the hashtag, the Black Lives Matter hashtag, Alicia and

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Speaker 8: Opal and Patrice as I'm equally grateful to, you know,

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Speaker 8: the many contributions to that movement of Deray and Brittany

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Speaker 8: and Sam and Janetta. I am also even more grateful

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Speaker 8: to the fact that, or of the fact that it's

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Speaker 8: been young people, we would have been talking about criminal

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Speaker 8: justice reform and mass incarceration in the twenty sixteen campaign

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Speaker 8: if it wasn't for the work of young activists. When

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Speaker 8: I think about the many ways in which were often

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Speaker 8: challenged and by this I mean black organizations are traditional

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Speaker 8: civil rights organizations to provide data and metrics for why.

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Speaker 9: We deserve grant money.

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Speaker 8: And then I think about what Deray and Brittany and

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Speaker 8: Sam have done with Campaign zero, showing you the data

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Speaker 8: on the number of black and brown people who've been

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Speaker 8: killed at the hands of police or have been brutalized

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Speaker 8: at the hands of police. All of that work matters,

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Speaker 8: and I think the sooner that people can stop worrying about,

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Speaker 8: you know, whether or not there needs to be ahead,

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Speaker 8: or is there a head and who's our new Martin

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Speaker 8: or who's our new Malcolm, and just focuses on the

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Speaker 8: fact that the work is getting done and we need

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Speaker 8: all of these people and everyone has a role to play,

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Speaker 8: and it's not a competition. And the moment that we

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Speaker 8: get sidetracked on the competition, that's the moment where another

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Speaker 8: black or brown person dies. You know, we just can't

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Speaker 8: afford to have those types of silos. I think about,

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Speaker 8: you know, the work of the Women's March that Janey

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Speaker 8: Ingram and Tamika Mallory and Linda Sarsoura and Carmen Perez

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Speaker 8: all were a part of, and in the backlash they

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Speaker 8: got from black and brown woman who said, why are

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Speaker 8: you working with white feminists because traditionally they step on

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Speaker 8: us and on our issues. Well, at what point do

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Speaker 8: we say, I'm gonna deal with that a little bit,

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Speaker 8: but let's stand together on this one thing. I'm sitting

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Speaker 8: here so that you have a voice at this table.

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Speaker 8: Let's just get through this part. I think that we

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Speaker 8: just have too much on the line to not figure

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Speaker 8: out ways to work together.

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Speaker 1: That might be a slippery slip though, because what do

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Speaker 1: we say if uh, let's say the CEO of PEPSI

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Speaker 1: visits Trump's White House.

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Speaker 9: I think it's different.

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Speaker 8: I think it's And the reason why I think it's

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Speaker 8: different is because Donald Trump invites people to the White

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Speaker 8: House for photo opportunities, not to create real change. And

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Speaker 8: I think the moment you go and you sit at

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Speaker 8: a table and you see that your there's no intention

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Speaker 8: on your voice being heard.

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Speaker 9: You played yourself. That's totally different.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you so that selfie or that

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Speaker 1: photo he took with the.

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Speaker 8: The HBCU presidents where there's nine thousand of them in

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Speaker 8: the room and Kelly and the couch, that one that's

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Speaker 8: the one you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little Houston five hundred.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they played themselves. They played themselves.

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Speaker 1: That's what it looked like.

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Speaker 6: Those pens.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely not whatsoever like you. Yeah, so to you,

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Speaker 1: I mean in their eyes, did they figure that, oh,

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Speaker 1: you two are trying to get a seat at the

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Speaker 1: table and.

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Speaker 8: Well and they got played because what happened was they

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Speaker 8: were told that they were going to have a sit

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Speaker 8: down meeting with Donald Trump and instead were ushered into

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Speaker 8: the Oval office, where it is far too small for

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Speaker 8: that many president college presidents to go in there for

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 8: a photo opportunity. They were never talked to by the president. Instead,

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Speaker 8: he sent his little celebrity apprentice and h to talk

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Speaker 8: to them.

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Speaker 1: You feel about her, I don't know. I had god

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Speaker 1: that that.

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Speaker 8: No love, especially after I don't know if you all saw,

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Speaker 8: but she sent a letter to.

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Speaker 9: The Congressional Black Caucus.

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Speaker 8: Let me just no, no, that that ain't even the worst

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Speaker 8: part because we know she's not honorable number one, who

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Speaker 8: signs when you're the honorable, you don't have to sign

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Speaker 8: your letter the honorable like people notice sign send you

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Speaker 8: a letter that says that. So also, you know, not

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Speaker 8: just in law school, but I think even in high school,

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Speaker 8: you learn where an address block goes on the letter

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Speaker 8: where Dederick Richmond's address block was at the bottom of

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Speaker 8: the letter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good nights, I've gotten some letters.

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Speaker 8: Somebody somebody said to check that. And then and then

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 8: the bottom line is after she was denied, she went

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Speaker 8: on Twitter and said one monkey doesn't don't stop, no show.

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Speaker 6: So are you saying, wait?

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Speaker 10: So the story isros got denied into the Black Caucus.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, that was never gonna happen.

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Speaker 8: She invited them on behalf of Donald Trump, to come

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01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 8: back to the White House for a meeting. The first

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 8: time they went, they didn't take the whole CBC because

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 8: it didn't merit the entire CBC's time. Congressman Richmond who's

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Speaker 8: the chair of the caucus, went in with just the

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Speaker 8: Executive Committee, which is standard we did it for under

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Speaker 8: Barack Obama's administration. And they took in a white paper

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Speaker 8: that said, here are here's one hundred and thirty pages

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Speaker 8: of issues that you could be working on that would

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Speaker 8: help to advance the black community. So when you ask us,

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Speaker 8: what in the hell do we have to lose, exhibit

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Speaker 8: a sucker. And that's what they did. And so she

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01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 8: invited them back because that wasn't enough attention for her

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01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 8: and said, why don't all of you come back so

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Speaker 8: they could.

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Speaker 9: Try to get this photo op?

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Speaker 8: And you played yourself because we know who you are

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Speaker 8: and what you stand for.

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Speaker 9: Good night.

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Speaker 8: I folt like she might sit outside at a desk

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Speaker 8: at the White House.

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Speaker 1: What was told? Would she be in house of cars?

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: Which character she would be?

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Speaker 9: Not on camera?

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 8: She would be like like the person, the staffer who

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Speaker 8: oversees the interns.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 9: I understand.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't even give her Freddy because Freddy got more

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01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 8: honored this year. But I just wanted to tell you

1313
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Speaker 8: all this in case you missed it to all the listeners.

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Speaker 8: The reason why I treat her so bad is because

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Speaker 8: not only is she the devil, but she also before

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 8: she was all on Donald Trump's bandwagon, she was doing

1317
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton. There's photo evidence looking up online Hillary Clinton fundraisers.

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01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 8: There was a super pack that was established before Hillary

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01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 8: Clinton announced, called ready for Hillary. Morosa was ready for Hillary.

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Speaker 8: She worked in the Clinton white House. Yeah, we don't

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 8: do Yeah, we don't do that.

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01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 9: We don't do that.

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, I forgot my question.

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 6: It's funny.

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 10: I've seen a couple of black people in that in

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01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 10: that White House, in the over office. They're always the

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01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 10: one to pushing the reporters out like a couple of

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,480
Speaker 10: weird It is we Yeah, Angela Mitchell.

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01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 8: She tried to compare herself to Valerie Jared. Girl, if

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 8: you ever listen to this, she won't ever be Valerie.

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 8: That ain't right, That ain't right, That ain't right, that right,

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 8: she said, I'm Valerie Jared to Donald Trump?

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01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 6: What what?

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 9: Yes? Exactly Bell, Valerie Jared.

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Anyway, what did.

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Speaker 9: Y'all How did y'all get me down that?

1337
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: Because yeah, we go down?

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01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 9: Can I stand her?

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01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: Did that clip ever come out?

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 9: Which clip?

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: The clip you said.

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01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:56,839
Speaker 7: Sound like you're saying something crazy?

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 8: I notice that from the from the yeah, so I

1344
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 8: think they put it on a couple of sites.

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01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 9: National Action Network.

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01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 8: They had a women's luncheon and Empowerment Women's luncheon, and

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 8: she spoke I don't know who, Rev, I love you

1348
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 8: so much, but I don't know who thought that was

1349
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,839
Speaker 8: gonna be a good idea to have omros to speak

1350
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 8: at the beginning of this lunch. And she got up

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01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 8: there and tried to lie to my cousin. So I

1352
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 8: had to correct the record. I didn't need to do

1353
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 8: my acceptance speech. I just had to come for her.

1354
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 8: And so that's what happened. Trump's Apprentice is I didn't

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 8: even call her by the name, just Trump's a Princeice.

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 8: Did she just walk out after No, So she actually

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01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 8: walked out. Rev kind of got her and then she

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 8: walked out after that. So I was like, well, somebody

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 8: show her a video because I'm about to show it.

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Speaker 6: So y'all never been at each other's life.

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were trying to put her in pictures with

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01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 8: me that day. I was like, I'm not taking pictures

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 8: with her. That flies against everything I stand for.

1364
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 10: You must have a list of people that like, not

1365
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,480
Speaker 10: only pictures. I will not engage in conversation.

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Speaker 8: It's not that long though, people on CNN who are

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 8: Trump supporters, who I actually like, you know, but I

1368
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,440
Speaker 8: just don't like when people are, you know, just blatant liars,

1369
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 8: just you know, you switch and you contort and you

1370
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 8: just do whatever's convenient when you're clearly an opportunistic person.

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01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 9: I just don't. I can't rock with you.

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01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 6: How many times have you been to offer your own

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01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 6: show on one of these networks?

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's my next question. It was, why do

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: you not have your own show like that?

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 7: I won't have my own show.

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: Exclusive coming out when Okay, well, yes, I got to

1378
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: ask you. When Melissai Harris Perry left her, he didn't leave, Yeah,

1379
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: she didn't when she was escorted. Yeah, when she when

1380
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: her post was by my employer, did you get a

1381
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: phone call like would you like your own showing.

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01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 9: You so yes, people are calling me.

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 8: I will say that there was not a better person

1384
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 8: that could have taken that morning slot than Joy Read.

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01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 8: I think Joy now I was devastated when her daily

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01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 8: show was canceled. And I think that she has like

1387
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 8: she kills it. She's better than so many people on

1388
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 8: so many networks.

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01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 6: They put us on the weekend.

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, and and but I think that she could easily,

1391
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 8: like we see her all the time filling in for

1392
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 8: some of the other daily shows.

1393
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 9: She's phenomenal.

1394
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 8: But yes, I think that I, you know, talk about

1395
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 8: things in a certain way, and I will definitely be

1396
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 8: doing something.

1397
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 9: But yes, people are calling.

1398
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: Ambiguity.

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01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 9: No, not just.

1400
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 10: That question about some real quick Can I just say

1401
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 10: that moment we're all talking about the N word follow

1402
01:15:59,120 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 10: up or whatever.

1403
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 6: Of course, everybody talking about ice cube. Everybody talked about

1404
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 6: doctor Dyson. But Simone Sanders, Yes.

1405
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 9: She had. She had a great moment.

1406
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 8: And the thing that people don't understand is Simon was

1407
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 8: booked to go on the show before that inward moment happened.

1408
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 8: She did phenomenally well, so I was definitely cheering her

1409
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 8: on and I was so glad that she was there

1410
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 8: to kind of speak out not just for black people

1411
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 8: and educating on the inward, but also black women.

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1413
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 12: Sorry, No, it's it's quite a rough show too, your show.

1414
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 12: I think were about to ask some Yeah, God.

1415
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 4: You were saying that you're friends with some Trump supporters.

1416
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 4: When I meet someone and learned that they're Trump supporter,

1417
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 4: I have a really hard.

1418
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: Time talking to them.

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: I understand, Like I can't. I understand because I don't

1420
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 4: understand how they could vote for someone that's not dumb.

1421
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: That's how I feel about that. I don't think any

1422
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 4: of the tables trump supporters. I hope not because I'll

1423
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 4: be weird, that particularly weird. But I mean, you know

1424
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1425
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 1: Actually, Bill, So I can't.

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 8: I can't talk to them about politics. What I have

1427
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 8: worked really hard on doing is understanding who they are

1428
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 8: as human beings, like why in the what?

1429
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 9: And sometimes it is.

1430
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: We can't separate that. I mean, can you separate that?

1431
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 10: No?

1432
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 9: Sometimes it's really hard.

1433
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 8: But I think one good example is on CNN Jeffrey Lord,

1434
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 8: who I'm often like if we're on together, like like

1435
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 8: are you serious?

1436
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 9: Did you really just say? Or whatever?

1437
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 8: Every night, when Jeffrey leaves CNN, he is driving home

1438
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 8: back to Pennsylvania to take care of his mother, who

1439
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 8: has dementia. And to me, that's something that's very personal

1440
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 8: because my grandmother passed away with Alzheimer's a couple of

1441
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 8: years ago, and I know how hard that work is.

1442
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 8: I know how hard it was for my dad and

1443
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 8: his sisters and his brothers. It was really really tough.

1444
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 8: And then making the decision to put my grandmother in

1445
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 8: a home where I was like, she has a mouth,

1446
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 8: like my n gonna kill her, and fortunately they then

1447
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 8: they ended up actually really really loving her.

1448
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 9: But I just know that, and so it just it

1449
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 9: there is there.

1450
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 8: I know that about him, and that means that somewhere

1451
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 8: beyond the Trump propaganda, right, there's the heart of someone

1452
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 8: who's truly compassionate and really loves his family. And so

1453
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 8: there are things like that that I have to kind

1454
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 8: of latch onto and and just be hopeful about the KKK.

1455
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 6: They love their family.

1456
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 8: Dude, Yeah, I ain't checking for the KKKO they love it.

1457
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,440
Speaker 9: I don't think he's the kk Okay.

1458
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: You talked about your dad and how he was an activist.

1459
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: Was your mother politically active as well?

1460
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 6: It is?

1461
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 8: My dad still has a bullhorn in his trunk. We

1462
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 8: just did a in real life, We just did a

1463
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 8: seventy fifth surprise birthday party for him at the beginning

1464
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 8: of June, and.

1465
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 9: The props at the photo booths, like we had his.

1466
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 8: Old MLK signs and the bullhorn was made a very

1467
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 8: prominent appearance.

1468
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 9: At the party. So he's really serious about it.

1469
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 8: My mom was is not the same type of activists

1470
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 8: as my dad. She is a retired college administrator, but

1471
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 8: she was on affirmative action commissions and studying how students

1472
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 8: of color learned, and very active in multicultural education on

1473
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 8: her campus, so very much so. One of my favorite

1474
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 8: pictures that my childhood Dennis found and got blown up

1475
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 8: for my parents for my dad's birthday, actually was my

1476
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 8: parents marching side by side. It's a great picture. It's

1477
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 8: my cover photo on Facebook right now. I was like,

1478
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 8: look at black love happening.

1479
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: That's wonderful.

1480
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 8: And my dad had on a bad sweet coach too.

1481
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 8: I was like, this dude was stayed silent in the march.

1482
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 9: But okay.

1483
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: So in the idea of being politically active, what would

1484
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: your message be to people, especially my field of entertainment,

1485
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: What are effective ways for us to get involved? In

1486
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:01,480
Speaker 1: which what I say is that the the Harry Bellefonte

1487
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: method method where he m the sixties routinely funded you know, uh,

1488
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: marches and hotels and bail money, that sort of thing

1489
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: I see. I feel as though, ever since the the

1490
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: Dixie Chicks a Bush uh Natalie Mind's criticizing Bush in

1491
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and three for the war and how that

1492
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: affected their their money, their income, he kind of seeing

1493
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: a quiet, apprehensive a political view from a lot of entertainers,

1494
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: Like I for one, thought, oh, that this war is

1495
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: really going to bring on you know, uh what's going

1496
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: on type Yeah, are politically motivated, you know, like a

1497
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: more conscious from the opposite and rendered them indifferent and

1498
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: really to where we are now, like just Cole getting

1499
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: dumb so and you know a lot of a lot

1500
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: of people would you know, feel as though they might

1501
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: have something to lose. I mean not in the case

1502
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: of a it's football player, guy that didn't vote in

1503
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 1: the last election.

1504
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 8: Sorry, So just as an example of that though, like

1505
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 8: I think it's important for us to understand that.

1506
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,879
Speaker 9: Where we are siloed or we are left.

1507
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 8: Standing as individuals, we're easier to target and to strike

1508
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 8: and to take out if we stand as a collective,

1509
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 8: unified group, NFL players that know the national anthem doesn't

1510
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 8: speak for us, and shouldn't NFL players that know that

1511
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 8: black lives matter and we should stand for something, you know,

1512
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 8: we It shouldn't have just been Colin and that is

1513
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 8: why it was so easy for them to take him out.

1514
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 8: I think, you know, using your art to convey a

1515
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 8: certain message is important.

1516
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 9: But I think that there's something that.

1517
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 8: We, as a collective, the people, have to do to

1518
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 8: support that art. I think about jay Z the song Spiritual,

1519
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 8: How well did that do? And think about what it

1520
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 8: was really about?

1521
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: So the song he had a song?

1522
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 10: You listen to it, listen to it.

1523
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 9: It's just.

1524
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, you've done the unthinkable is to name

1525
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 4: a song that these two never heard of. It was

1526
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 4: it was a title exclusive, wasn't it? Because I don't care,

1527
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 4: it's never I'm looking for it right now. Oh God,

1528
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 4: I hope I title hope reas someone He was twelve

1529
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 4: and no one ever heard.

1530
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: But they've heard it.

1531
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 8: So all I'm telling, all I'm saying to you is

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01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 8: or you can look at t I released this mini

1533
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 8: doc on bt us or else, And of course the

1534
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 8: corresponding album.

1535
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 9: How well did those things?

1536
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 8: Do you know, when we say that we need our

1537
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 8: artists to be conscious and woke and to be pushing

1538
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 8: this material and you know, touting these messages, how do

1539
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 8: we support them when they're doing that.

1540
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: I think that's just lip service.

1541
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 2: I think that's just from in my opinion, like when

1542
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 2: people talk about quote unquote conscious hip hop, when they

1543
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: say they want that from artists, I think it's very

1544
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: much like your grocery card is. Like everybody say they

1545
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: want to eat vegetables, but that ship don't never make it.

1546
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 6: They just don't want it from everybody.

1547
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 13: They wanted a chance, but everybody, yes, taking a consideration,

1548
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 13: the record labels don't want to put in the extra

1549
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 13: work to market that kind of material.

1550
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: But then too, But for me, like I mean, and

1551
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm just using him as a example, like do I

1552
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: really want to hear a conscious record quote unquote from

1553
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: t I?

1554
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 9: I mean he I mean, but a lot of this stuff,

1555
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 9: it has been infused.

1556
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 6: It's hard reality.

1557
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 13: Do you really want to another see the record about

1558
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 13: all the other ship that he wraps about on all

1559
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 13: his other records, because he.

1560
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: Wraps about that ship really well?

1561
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you you can listen to like you can

1562
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: get Rubber fan Man whatever you can.

1563
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: They talk the same ship. So if he wants to

1564
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: run about something else, then he should be. And that's

1565
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: the thing. I guess.

1566
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 2: My point is if he wants to do that, then

1567
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: absolutely let him do it. But I think there's a

1568
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: problem kind of what back when you feel like it's

1569
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: insincere if don't make niggas out to be more than

1570
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 2: what they are, Like when you know when when they

1571
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: went to.

1572
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 6: Aren't niggas more than one thing?

1573
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: What I feel like we're getting now, we're getting into.

1574
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: This Ferguson, like when Ferguson happened, when Mike Brown happened,

1575
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: and everybody was like Nelly needed to come and speak,

1576
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: Nelly needed to come, and I was just like okay,

1577
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: and then Nelly spoke and it's just like and then

1578
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: and then people started climbing. It was like, dude, that

1579
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 2: ain't his Maybe that's not yeah.

1580
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 10: Because that is his community. That is I mean, he's

1581
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 10: the most famous famous MC to come out.

1582
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, with the people, walk with the people. Everyone

1583
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: has to be I have a dream to put niggas.

1584
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 8: On j You don't stop what you're doing but I

1585
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 8: think the reality of it is we shouldn't We shouldn't

1586
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 8: necessarily try to control them if that's what they feel

1587
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 8: like they should be expressing. I also think that we

1588
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 8: should try to be supportive of it. If we're saying

1589
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 8: that nobody's hearing us and we're not, you know, the voices.

1590
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 9: That are talking about it aren't loud enough.

1591
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 8: And then once those voices are talking about it, we

1592
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 8: don't support it.

1593
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 9: That's a problem.

1594
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 8: If we don't like how they're expressing it, then we

1595
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 8: can offer, you know, criticism, but at least try to

1596
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 8: hear them out. And then the other piece I would

1597
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 8: say is there are artists who are very conscious who

1598
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 8: would still say, you know, there's stuff about this whole

1599
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 8: stuff that I don't know enough about, and I want

1600
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:47,799
Speaker 8: to learn more.

1601
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 9: Before I step out there.

1602
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 8: And I think that it's up to those of us

1603
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 8: who do know more to help educate the masses period,

1604
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 8: regardless of that they have a platform or not.

1605
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: You should have got whack bezza, Come.

1606
01:25:59,160 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 9: On, what's happen?

1607
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 6: You gotta make this is real life and this is

1608
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 6: what people think.

1609
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: It's like it's gotta be a jet like that.

1610
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: I guess that's to me, because we were having this

1611
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: company earlier, the role of you know, entertainers quote unquote

1612
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 2: as activists to me, that's just it gets really negolous.

1613
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: Because the sugar helps medicine go down.

1614
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, dude, just do what you do. You

1615
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, do do what you do

1616
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: at the best, at what you do. Like, I don't

1617
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: need artists to quote unquote inspire me by trying to inspire.

1618
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 6: You don't need it at about most people.

1619
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: So I don't think I think bad and Bougie will

1620
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: get more niggas to work than damn less about black

1621
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: people people.

1622
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: This inspirationals You're saying that Migos doing a benefit concert

1623
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: that could raise money for cause, blah blah blah blah blah.

1624
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: It's more effective not with them doing.

1625
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 8: Everybody do the same thing. Every artist doesn't have to

1626
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 8: do the same thing. Their contribution may not look like

1627
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 8: Harry Belafonte. Maybe there is somebody that can bring a

1628
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 8: stage show to Broadway and disrupt culture just on how

1629
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 8: we see ourselves thinking about Hamilton, Like, there are so

1630
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 8: many ways that we can disrupt that don't have to

1631
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 8: be you know.

1632
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 10: Also, Jay Z is setting a little standard tude that

1633
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 10: I think is kind of cool because he's been doing

1634
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 10: things lately and I don't give him props usually, but

1635
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 10: I'm just saying, you don't like the bail things, so

1636
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 10: like you didn't you feel about that you didn't like.

1637
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 8: Was a part of the Dream Defenders doing that. Dream

1638
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 8: Defenders started doing that with mothers who were incarcerated on

1639
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 8: Mother's Day and helping them.

1640
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 9: Get out of jail. So he actually supported organizations doing

1641
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 9: that work. I think it's great.

1642
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 8: He also helped to bail folks out during the Ferguson protest.

1643
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, that helps. That helps, But.

1644
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 4: I think it has a lot of it has to

1645
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 4: happen like Vietnam. Right, it was like Bob Dylan was

1646
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 4: writing this music and it was it was more universal

1647
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 4: doing it from there.

1648
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 13: It's also not all up in the press being like yo,

1649
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 13: I did this, I did that, I did this, I

1650
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 13: did that. Right, So, like, nobody really to know what

1651
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 13: any of these cats are doing, just doing the ship.

1652
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: And if I were to tell y'all, I don't care,

1653
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: I don't care what you did, I'm I'm just saying

1654
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. What you're going to

1655
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: do just do it, and just do something and don't

1656
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: try to get the love for it. Just do it

1657
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: true because you.

1658
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 6: Know it's prosperate off this community. Give it back something.

1659
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 2: But I agree, give it back, but give it back

1660
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: in the way that best fits you.

1661
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 7: Like you too.

1662
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Just my problem is just trying to make everybody you know,

1663
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 2: Malcolm or Martin what It's just like, dude, like that

1664
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: just ain't your calling, man, Like, give it the best,

1665
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: do the best you and and be true in that. Like,

1666
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: don't try to make somebody that ain't a speaker or

1667
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1668
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Don't try to make them into something that they're not.

1669
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Where's jaw where? Yo? For real?

1670
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it becomes a where's jah woke off moment

1671
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: where everybody's trying to show how woke they are and

1672
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: this like all right, all y'all needs need to go

1673
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: back to sleep.

1674
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 6: From Carolina And.

1675
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 10: You don't like slavery shows neither, and but he loved

1676
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 10: black women.

1677
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 6: It's a weird you know, we.

1678
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: Love we're also a hip hop generation and we are

1679
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: in mid life crisis right now. Also let's admit that

1680
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: as well. I feel like us as a as a

1681
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: first generation of hip hop. We're also under mid life

1682
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: crisis because you know, I mean we're we don't recognize

1683
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,839
Speaker 1: it no more. Yeah, we don't recognize it anymore.

1684
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 2: And uh Freshman cover. That's yeah, that looked like Pokemon.

1685
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I was like, who these niggas?

1686
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 6: Was like, nah, yes, just a shameless plug.

1687
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 10: It wasn't nothing like that Essence cover with all those

1688
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 10: ladies like Angela Roach when that was a beautiful cover,

1689
01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 10: like that Essence cover.

1690
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 9: Is honor a part of it?

1691
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: What's the sports entertainment lawyer story? Why didn't I?

1692
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 8: Oh? So the short version is I.

1693
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: Extended dance version.

1694
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 9: To this day. I love the movie.

1695
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 8: Jerry Maguire like, I absolutely love it. And so I

1696
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 8: was like, I want to be a sports entertainment lawyer.

1697
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 8: And I told my pastor, who's also my goddad.

1698
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 9: I was like, this is really what I want to do.

1699
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 9: So he's like, okay, cool.

1700
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 8: So we had like some Seahawks players that went to

1701
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 8: my church at the time, and so one of the

1702
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 8: players he introduced me to after He's like.

1703
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 9: It's my god daughter. She want to be a sports

1704
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 9: en tamu lawyer.

1705
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 8: We like standing on the altar after the benediction at church,

1706
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 8: Goddad b lines and the dude was like, if you're

1707
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 8: gonna represent me, what you're gonna do for me? And

1708
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 8: I was like, okay, and it ain't that type of party.

1709
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 8: I will find another job wait in church.

1710
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 9: At church right after.

1711
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: So that's where to.

1712
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 3: One.

1713
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 10: So on the hills of that question, And you tell

1714
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 10: me if this is going too far, Angela, but this

1715
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 10: is my own curiosity.

1716
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 6: Are you single?

1717
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,520
Speaker 10: And if you are, how crazy is it to navigate

1718
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 10: in your world being who you are with the mouth

1719
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 10: that you have?

1720
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 6: And I'm assuming that you rather go black.

1721
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 9: So I've never dated a white guy.

1722
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 8: Okay that, but I will also say that, so I

1723
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 8: will also say that I am single. That is, this

1724
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 8: is not a plug for tender like engagement, though on

1725
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 8: social media I say that regularly, like I'm not on

1726
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 8: Twitter trying to find a dude.

1727
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 9: Please don't d m me.

1728
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,520
Speaker 8: I have some crazy dms, like crazy dms, crazy comments

1729
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 8: on Instagram in particular, And while I appreciate the love,

1730
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 8: sometimes I just wish they would just hold it in

1731
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 8: their hearts.

1732
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 9: I just want to say I got something happening right now.

1733
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 8: I just want to stay focused but no, it's it's

1734
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 8: it's fine.

1735
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 9: It is what it is.

1736
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 6: It's not difficult dating in this.

1737
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 8: I don't think I have a problem being approached. I

1738
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 8: think that I'm selective. I'm a daddy's girl, truthfully, and

1739
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 8: so if they don't align.

1740
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: With too soon, too soon, if they don't, if.

1741
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 8: They don't up my standards are like what I know

1742
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 8: a man should be like, I'm not checking.

1743
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 10: For dude, would you would you date somebody in politics

1744
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 10: at this point?

1745
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 8: I don't think so, Like I can't be like a

1746
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 8: first lady type. I'm looking to piss off everybody.

1747
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: You want to know why Angela Rodgers, because you are

1748
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: going to be president.

1749
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 10: First, the second black female president, because we ain't getting

1750
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 10: her killed.

1751
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Speaker 8: So they're not my Those aren't my dreams and aspirations

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01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:53,919
Speaker 8: that I appreciate.

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01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: We don't.

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01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 8: We don't like the black folks wanted to be speaking,

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01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 8: gonna be a preacher, like that's what I feel like

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01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 8: because I know politics, like y'all think I'm I'm not

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01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 8: running for office.

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01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: And look back in nineteen ninety three when I was

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01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 1: signing my record deal, do you think I was like, Yo,

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01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the black dox Everson of it. No,

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01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know what. There you go.

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01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 8: They know when they dig about his footage, they're gonna

1763
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 8: be like, we can't. Yeah, it's crazy like that ain't happening.

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01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 8: So I just don't want to run. I just hope

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01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 8: that you will receive that in your spirit. I don't

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01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 8: want to run. I'm not trying.

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01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: The angel. Am I the first person to really tell

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01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: you this.

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01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 9: No, there are a.

1770
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 8: Lot of people that asked me to run all the time.

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01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 8: That's just not what I want to do. I feel

1772
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 8: like there are other ways that I can have.

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01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 11: At the table president.

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01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 9: Maybe that's the press. Maybe you're the press. Maybe the

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01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 9: president's sitting in your chair because it's not in this one.

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01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 6: That's way too much.

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01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: We do you think you think Zuckerberg is making a

1778
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: go I don't know.

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01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 9: Is that a thing? I didn't hear that.

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01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: Well.

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01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: He is just like doing a bunch of like present

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01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 2: pre president. Like he's like he put up a post

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01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: the other day and was like, yeah, I'm in Iowa,

1784
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: met some folks down here.

1785
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 8: Don't trying to get to two billion Facebook users goal achieved.

1786
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 9: Now let's see if he still does that so maybe

1787
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 9: I'll follow you there.

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01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, Irey Booker, maybe maybe also Kamala, which like she's

1789
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 8: shutting it down, so I mean, I don't know.

1790
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 9: I don't know Kamala.

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01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want her to get hurt either though.

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01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 9: No, we don't want anybody to get hurt.

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01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: We want no one to get hurt. And I appreciate

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01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: you for coming on the show today, and we've we've

1795
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: been trying to make this happen for the longest I know,

1796
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,839
Speaker 1: So tell us where we can hear your podcast.

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01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 8: The podcast is called on One with a Rye and

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01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 8: it's on uh Apple, on I, on Spotify, on title

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01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:04,520
Speaker 8: and SoundCloud.

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Speaker 1: Well down, So what do we learn today, Fronte Man.

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01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 2: I learned that Angela Rode is probably like I'm not

1802
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 2: a very political person at all. Like I'm not like

1803
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: a person that like checks the news all the time

1804
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 2: and get very involved in.

1805
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 1: The creative process.

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01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, y'all know, if you've listened to show,

1807
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 2: y'all know I don't follow that shit like that, but

1808
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But I do have a

1809
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 2: respect for just really genuine people. And the thing that

1810
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 2: I just met with think with you is that you have.

1811
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: You're very knowledgeable about your feel and you know it.

1812
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's something with you that

1813
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 2: I think is very relatable and you're not so much

1814
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 2: like I won't say necessarily, don't say on a pedestal,

1815
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: but you're you're You're very relatable, which I think also

1816
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 2: lends credence to the presidential quality, which I know you

1817
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: don't want, but I'm saying that I think that quality

1818
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 2: about you is something and that I don't see in

1819
01:35:58,840 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot of your contemporaries.

1820
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of people.

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01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: Even when we were talking in the group text, we

1822
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 2: were like, yo, Andre's doing the show, I was like, Okay.

1823
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 2: Out of a lot of people in that lane of

1824
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 2: the new Black kind of political she's the one to

1825
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 2: me that seems kind of the most centered, not necessarily

1826
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: center in terms of the issues where you staying, but

1827
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: just she's the one that seems more like yeah, like

1828
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: she could, she could fuck with us, and like she

1829
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 2: is a person, you know what I mean. And so nah,

1830
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 2: just sitting down here chopping up, but you thank you

1831
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 2: for making the time. And then like, for real, boss, Bill,

1832
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: what what did you learn today? I learned a lot today,

1833
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say learned. I got reminded of a lot

1834
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 2: of stuff that I've probably forgotten, like the impeachment process

1835
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:37,879
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

1836
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: I just wanted to.

1837
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 13: Reiterate thank you for coming to show we like you

1838
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 13: and I have been trying to get you here for

1839
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 13: a while, so we were thankful, thankful that you finally

1840
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 13: made it.

1841
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 9: So so glad to be here.

1842
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Paid Bill, what'd you learn today? Bro?

1843
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 4: I learned what Alderman is. I learned that in nineteen

1844
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 4: ninety three you signed your first record deal. It was

1845
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 4: the same year that I got bur Mitzvoot. That's important.

1846
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Wow, You're like, yeah, yeah, that was a good year.

1847
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 4: I turned it to man anyway, and uh, And I

1848
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 4: wish that I was as knowledgeable about what I do

1849
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 4: as ans, because it's really impressive to listen to you

1850
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 4: speak like I'm not no no fucking around, like I

1851
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 4: can't talk. I love what I do and I can't

1852
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 4: talk about I think I'm good at it. Some other

1853
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 4: people do, and I Yeah, it's really impressive.

1854
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: That's all. So thanks. She speaks so well.

1855
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 9: In articulate, remember the Joe Biden moment.

1856
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Articulate in less than two hundred and fifty words like

1857
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 1: tell me what you learned today at a low tone.

1858
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 6: Okay, you know I get excited movie, yes, you know

1859
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 6: people are like Okay.

1860
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 10: I learned a couple of things. I learned she will

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01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 10: not be running for president. I learned that she will

1862
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 10: not be running for president, although I I do believe

1863
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 10: her because what I'm hoping for in the future is

1864
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 10: a black news network.

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01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 6: Somebody's got to do it. I don't know.

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01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 10: I just feel like angel Ro could get it done. Also,

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01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 10: I learned some great periodicals to look for for fat

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01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 10: I hope you guys took your notes. I also learned

1869
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,839
Speaker 10: that a black man is running for governor in Florida

1870
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 10: and everybody should support that.

1871
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 6: What's his name again so I can write it down

1872
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 6: and Andrew.

1873
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: Gilli And and Florida.

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01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 6: I learned what I already knew. Grow you dope, Steve.

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01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 11: I learned that that you should have your own show. Yes,

1876
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 11: I've been watching it since Crossfire.

1877
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 7: I guess, no, I never.

1878
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1879
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 9: I didn't know.

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01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Crossfire train, learned from cross.

1881
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 8: Fire and then you get Steve, know you need that time.

1882
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 9: I know what I said, debated.

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01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: She's doing the Angela right now, what.

1884
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 8: Happened was and I said, I debated my dad light

1885
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 8: Crossfire growing up watching it.

1886
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 9: When the new Crossfire came back, I went non seen that.

1887
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 9: I was still they wout back?

1888
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: When did the check? Right now? Your the eighties, right, okay,

1889
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 1: try to fact check out seeing the Crossfire was like

1890
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 1: when they have the panel five people. I still thought

1891
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: that was an ongoing.

1892
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 8: Thing of they brought it back, but I wasn't there yet.

1893
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 8: I was still doing MSNBC anyway. Yes, Steve, we're listening

1894
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 8: about that.

1895
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Rough you down like I always do. Stand this would

1896
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: be a great time for you to cut me off, okay,

1897
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: as usual because I always cut Steve off on show. Yeah, yes,

1898
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: I learned that she does not funck with al Morossa, and.

1899
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 8: I appreciate y'all better not either. I'm gonna come for

1900
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 8: you and your Twitter feeds as well.

1901
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: Know I appreciate somebody again. You related like you name names,

1902
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 2: you like fu, you you like the Tupaca politics speaking speak,

1903
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 2: burst off?

1904
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: What's your Twitter handle on your Instagram handles and people?

1905
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 9: Twitter handle?

1906
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 8: Is Angela underscore Rye Because some white girl took my

1907
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 8: name before I was on She took it now it

1908
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 8: was it's her real name, to be fair, but she

1909
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 8: just got.

1910
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 9: The handle first I did.

1911
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 8: And then my Instagram handle is Angela Raie. All one

1912
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,560
Speaker 8: word right like the bread.

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01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to the juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.

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01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: I could have sworn that, you too, I could have

1915
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: sworn it. I gotta say your road call. You guys

1916
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: missed the golden moment to make all the ship, all

1917
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: the jewiness that all the things that you guys have discussed.

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01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 11: It still wasn't the worst rod call of the night though.

1919
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: Collusion. I liked Bill's roll call. It was. It was

1920
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: funny anyway. Damn well, you guys covered. Oh I know

1921
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 1: I learned today. We learn today that Angelay single was

1922
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: a motherfucker.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome.

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01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:07,560
Speaker 1: My thank you. Nah, I'm trying to I'm trying to

1925
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: be first dude in the White House. Anyway, Thank you

1926
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: and uh Fan Ticcolo and Boston Bill and once in

1927
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: future Angela Raie, thank you, thank you for coming on

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01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme only on Pandora. Quest Love Supreme is

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01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Radio. This classic episode was produced

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