1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Jace o Ute. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Philly Show. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 3: Hey, Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z A lucky 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, December second, twenty twenty five. I hope everybody, 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 3: including you, Ruben and Jim had a great Thanksgiving, had 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: a great Thanksgiving weekend. But dare I say nobody had 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: a better Thanksgiving than Ranger Swarez in this sense, Dylan 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Ceaes on Wednesday signed a seven year, two hundred and 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: ten million dollars deal with the Toronto Blue Jays. And 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: if I'm Ranger Suarez, I'm going. 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: Uh see, he's throwing a party. 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: He's throwing a party. He's throwing a party. We've said 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: from the very beginning that we don't think we would 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: be surprised if Ranger Suarez is back with the Phillies. 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: But what'd you guys make of the Dylan ceas news 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: and what this means for Ranger Suarez. 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: Well, in the free agent market and the free agent 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 4: game and the free agent season, comps mean a lot, 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: not you know, a classic comp talking and right he lefty. 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: You're talking to a guy who's really durable and seas 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: and a guy who has not been as durable as 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: he would like to be in Suarez, but still two 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: really good pictures. And you know, you get a contract 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: like that, two hundred and ten million over seven years, 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: it's thirty million dollars AAV. It raises all the boats 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: in the harbor on the pitching side. So Rangers should 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: be happy about that, because I think he was on 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: that short list with Cease and others of top free 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: agent pitchers. But you're right, we've been talking all along 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: that he probably won't be back, and I'd be very, 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: very surprised. 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: If he was back. 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: Their focus remains on the catcher and the big slugger. 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: So but Ranger's gonna get paid. He's going to get paid. 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I think it might go on a while though with him. 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: I think you're right about that, Jim. I think that 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 5: unless they get something that would be close to Dylan Cee, somehow, 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 5: some way, Boris is going to try to figure out, 39 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: you know, some team to convince them that Ranger Suarez 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 5: should be paid more on. 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: An AAV or more on years or something. I don't 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: think that he should. 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 6: I think the reason why Toronto jumped up is because 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 6: one Dylan Cees has had some great track record, and 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 6: he's had some durability which Ranger has not had. 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: The one thing that you got to do in Toronto 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: is overpaid people because they're in Toronto. 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: And I also I think that Toronto was really aggressive 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 5: with him because they saw what the Dodgers did to them. 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: Got to get as much starting pitching as you possibly can. 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 5: They've been sort of shunned the last few years on 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 5: trying to get into the that, you know, into the 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: big time market. They got some money, they got some support, 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: they had a hell of a year, and they want 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: to try to build on that, try to win the 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 5: World Series. So they got overly aggressive on Uh on 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 5: Dylan Cease. I sort of look at this deal and 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: think back to Jason Worth and what the Nationals did. 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: They weren't quite as close Nationals at. 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 5: That time to getting to where they were, but I 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 5: think that the you know, Toronto just decided, you know what, 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 5: we're gonna blow everybody out of the water and. 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: Get this guy done and kind of go from there. 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: There was probably the guy that they targeted. 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: I agree Toronto's and World Series or you know, win 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: a World Series or bust mode. They got there this year. 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: It's right. 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: They got a good. 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: Club, they're they're in it to win it, and people, 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: you know, they got a guy to take their money, 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: and you know, they signed Glad to the five hundred 72 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: million dollar deal, and they're they're totally looking to I mean, 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: not just build on. There's only one way to build 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: on what they did in twenty twenty five, that's win 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: at all. 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 7: So yeah, don't be surprised if they don't make a 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 7: run at one of these big bats that Kyle Tuckers 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 7: and the Bellingers, and they're trying to put themselves in 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 7: a position that're like, hey, look at us, guys, We're 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 7: going forward, not going backward. 81 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: So it will be interesting to see what they do 82 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: as far as the bust is concerned, as far. 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: As the other bats are out there as well. 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: So Dylan sees last five seasons one hundred and sixty 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: two starts. That's four more than any other pitcher in baseball, 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: so he's he's very durable. Eight hundred and eighty four innings, 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: seventh in baseball last five years, three seven to two, 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: a thirty third out of eighty five qualified pitchers. He's 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: ninth in baseball among pitchers in Baseball B War fourth 90 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: and F War, and how does that compare to Rangers 91 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: wear as well? Rangers made one hundred and sixteen starts 92 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: last five years, one hundred and forty three appearances. He's 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: got a bet every Ra higher B WAR and F 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: war is a little lower. But you know, Rangers postseason 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: success is Dylan sees in the postseason has like an 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: era of like eight in the postseason limited. You know, 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: Ranger of course is at one point four eight. Arra 98 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: sixth best all time out of one hundred ninety nine 99 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 3: pitchers in baseball history minimum of forty innings, and Scott 100 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: Woris represents both of these guys. So I'm sure as 101 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: he's pitching, Dylan Sees, he's like, there's you want durability, 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: you want reliability, and there's nobody better than Dylan Ceese. 103 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: And then for Ranger Swarz, he's probably going, don't worry 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: about so much about the durability and the reliability both 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: sides of the neck, worry about the worry about the 106 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: elite performance, worry about how this guy posts in the postseason. 107 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: So he's he can make two strong arguments, two different 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: arguments for both of these guys, and both of these 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: guys are definitely going to get paid. But you know, 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: I keep thinking about the rotation as we we've talked 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: all off season of how the Phillies are probably not 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: going to resign Ranger. It's probably not going to happen, 113 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: And I just kind of have a little bit of 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: an uneasy feeling about the rotation in the sense of, 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: you don't know what Zach Zach Wheeler is gonna be 116 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: like when he's back. Noah's coming off the worst year 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: of his career, you know, Taiwan Walker's Tymel Walker number five. 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: You don't know what's gonna come from Painter. How do 119 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: you guys feel about the rotation right now? Assuming that 120 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: what Dave Dombrowski said at the General General of the 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: GM meetings is true, which is if we're going to 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: get any starting and pitching, it's gonna be more of 123 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: a depth type piece, you know, late and late in 124 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: the offseason, you know, a swing guy ish type of guy, 125 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: maybe a guy that starts a season in triple A. 126 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about the rotation? Because I'm 127 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: a little bit shaky in terms of everybody thinks, so 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: this is the strength that is the strength, but then 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: you kind of dig into it and you go, is 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: it going to be? Is it a lot to be 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: a strength? I don't know. 132 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: I'm right with you in terms of concern question mark 133 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: or the potential. The upside is very very good, right, 134 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: the upside and the potential is one of the top 135 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: ones in baseball. But I mean, Zach Wheeler is going 136 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: to turn thirty six next year. He's coming off a 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: surgical procedure. It's it's a condition that guys bounce back from. 138 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: But you know he's still never know until you see it. 139 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rush him back. 140 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: I would target like to me at Kentucky Kentucky Derby 141 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: would be the time I'd be looking to get him 142 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: back on the mound like. 143 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: That horseback while the horses are coming. 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get the horseback that you know, the first 145 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: week of May, because you know, I want him to 146 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: give me six strong, good six strong months, and the 147 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: sixth to one I want to be October. So I'm 148 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 4: not really worried about April. How could you say Nolah 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: is anything but a question mark? Who knows which way 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: he's going to go? You feel really good about the 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: two lefties, but there are question marks there. I would 152 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: assume we're going to see Painter relatively soon out of 153 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: the gate, If not out of the gate, maybe shortly thereafter. 154 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: Taiwan Walker becomes important for depth, but they don't have it. 155 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: They have question marks at the top and they don't 156 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 4: have a ton of depth. So I feel good about 157 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: the potential if everything goes well, but if something is 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: a miss, a little piece is a miss here or there, 159 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: it could be an issue. 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no question I I'm right with you, guys. 161 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: I have concerns. 162 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: I have concerns just because it's a strength, and it's 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: their biggest strength, and it could be one of their 164 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 5: biggest weaknesses. And so there's for the first time, there's 165 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 5: some real question marks and you cannot rely. 166 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: You're definitely not. 167 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: Going to get your whole, your whole stable rolling right 168 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 5: out of the Chuote because you know the wheelers behind, 169 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 5: and you. 170 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: Just don't know what you're gonna out of Taiwan Walker 171 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: and Painter. 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 5: I think, as you said, you know that you lefties 173 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: are are poised to have good season. They came off, 174 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 5: you know they were healthy, et cetera. But the Nola 175 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 5: question is a big one. Because it's the first time 176 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: we saw breakdown in his career, and as he's getting older, 177 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: it has has all of those innings and all of 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 5: those reps start to you know that he's had in 179 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 5: the past has made him the most durable pitcher. He 180 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: started to break down this year and you just don't 181 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 5: know how much you're going to get out of him. 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: Now. 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: He should be fresh, arm wise, should be pretty darn 184 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: fresh because you didn't like rack up the innings. 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All right, we are back 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: Winter meetings. 214 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 215 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: Winter meetings are next week in Orlando, Florida. Hopefully there'll 216 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 3: be some movement, more movement that has been going on 217 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: starting to pick up. You can got to get a 218 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: sense of it. Week on this show, we were talking 219 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: about Kyle Schwarber's free agency and how at the time 220 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: this is now two weekends ago, I'd heard that the 221 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: Phillies and Schwarber weren't closed, but you know, not necessarily 222 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: surprised relatively early in spring in the off season, but 223 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 3: we I think we all agree that we still expect 224 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: the Phillies to resign him. That's probably the you know, 225 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 3: the he's the favorite for the Phillies to resign. And 226 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: ESPN's Jeff Passing said within like the last twenty four 227 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: or forty eight hours that he thinks Kyle Schwarber could 228 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: be the first big bat to maybe fall off the board, 229 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: and he would kind of expect him to be signed 230 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: or pick a team before the end of the winter meetings, 231 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: which is kind of what we've been saying. You know, Ruben, 232 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: you've been saying before Christmas, mid December. Jim, you've been 233 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: saying for weeks, same thing, that Kyle's not the type 234 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: of guy to drag this thing on. You guys still 235 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: feel the same way. 236 00:11:54,440 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 4: Yep, he's a to me, Kyle Schwarber's stability guy. He's 237 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: a family man, he's got a young family, and I 238 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: just don't think personality wise, he'd want to see this 239 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: thing dragon. I think he'd like to have it done 240 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: before the holidays so he knows where he can go, 241 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 4: where he's going, get ready for the season and and 242 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: enjoy the holidays with his with his young family. So 243 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 4: I just yeah, I think I think he knows where 244 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: he wants to be, and I think the team that 245 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: wants him is right here, and it's just a matter 246 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: of making it happen. So I'd be stunned if it 247 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: went more than two more weeks. I'd be surprised he 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: went more. And two more weeks, I'm gonna do a little. 249 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: Drop mic drop here. 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: Boys, if the Cincinnati Reds really are serious about being 251 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: a contender, you sign JT and then you follow it 252 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: up with signing Cal Schober. They're best friends, they really 253 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 5: like care for each other, and they and and that 254 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 5: move much like we. 255 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: Did with David Bell and Jim Tomy. 256 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 5: We sort of legitimized ourselves with Jim toe with David 257 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 5: Bell Jim Tomy, then follow when we signed Jim, sort of. 258 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: Back to back. 259 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 5: I can see the Cincinnati Reds jumping forward and trying 260 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: to get Jat done and then follow it up with 261 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: and now it's a lot of money, but they've got 262 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: some money and they've got to pretty good talent. 263 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if they have that kind of money, 264 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: but if possible, you never know. If I'm the Cincinnati Reds. 265 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Right now, I go and I'm the GM crawl. That's 266 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: the move I make. 267 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: I wonderful. 268 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: They don't have a history of moves like that, other 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: than retaining Joey Vado Jody Joey Vado move. 270 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: They do not have a history of that. But they 271 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: can use their own gully. I mean, yeah, they can 272 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: build on it. 273 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 5: But they also know that that both those guys are 274 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: huge culture guys, and Terry Francona is going to have 275 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: some influence here. I gotta believe that he is pushing 276 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: hard to get these types of guys if at all possible. 277 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: We don't have them cash, but if i'm them right now, 278 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: especially in that NL central, man, it's why open baby, 279 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: you can take it. 280 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: If if I'm out bid by the Cincinnati Reds, then wow. 281 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 3: I would I would hate to be in John Middleton's 282 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: office the day that that goes down. If that ends 283 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: up going down, either one of those two players, quite 284 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: frankly to the Cincinnati Reds. Like you said, like be 285 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: out to be out bid by the Reds. No disrespect 286 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: of the Reds, but like you said, they haven't really 287 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: gone in that that deep in the free agent pool ever. 288 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm just tossing it out there. 289 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: Just toss it out there, because you don't get a 290 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 5: guy like Terry Francona and not try to back him up, 291 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: back it up with the with the rotation that they have. 292 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: They got some great arms, they have some good young players, 293 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: some talented kids. 294 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: It's a great offensive place if you're if you're Kyle Schwarber, 295 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 5: it's home for him. 296 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: You just never know. 297 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: Now, I don't think. I don't know if it's gonna happen. 298 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: But if I'm Cincinnati, I'm pushing hard to try to 299 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: make that move because that puts him right in the 300 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: driver's seat. 301 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: Man. 302 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 5: I think that they become one of the favorites to 303 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: win the NL if they do that. 304 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: We've been talking about them for a year. On Schwarmer 305 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: because he would kill that ballpark. He would destroy that ballpark. 306 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: I mean, he'd have stuff floating down the Ohio River 307 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: like every night. But I just and he'd be a 308 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: Jim told me like acquisition, hometown, blah blah blah, all 309 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: that stuff. I just I don't know if the Reds 310 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: would do it. 311 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: So so I want to say something about culture and 312 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 5: Terry Francona. He had jose Er mirrors for a long time. 313 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: Jose A Ramrez is a culture guy. He's the reason 314 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: why the Cleveland Guardians have had so much success. Guarantee 315 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: you that Krawl and Frank COONa are looking at this 316 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: guy Schwarber and going, this can be the guy that 317 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: takes us over the top. 318 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: What's the best way to do that? 319 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: Sign his best friend in JT and then sign him. 320 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: And I got to think that having the same conversations 321 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: that the executve level of citizens Bank Park, that we 322 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: need these two guys, their character, their culture, their production 323 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: if we're going to you know, close the door and 324 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: win this thing and you know, get it over the 325 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: top of the next couple of years. So, I mean, 326 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: it's fascinating. The Reds are fascinating player in all this. 327 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: I just don't know how serious of a player they 328 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: are given their history on the free agent market, which 329 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: is it's not robust. 330 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Well, well, this kind of goes back to the report 331 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: last week in The Athletic that the Red Sox were 332 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: kind of kicking the tires on JT. And you look 333 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: at it and you go like, why in the world 334 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: would the Red Sox They have so many other things 335 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: that they need to do, go after somebody like JT 336 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: real Muto, and you know, it's kind of like the 337 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: book is out on GT. You know, yes, his offense, 338 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: he's thirty five, his offense and numbers are down. But 339 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: tell you what, if you want to bring a stud 340 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: into the clubhouse, a tremendous clubhouse guy that can game 341 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: plan the crap out of a game out of an 342 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: opposing offense, who can just on the fly in game 343 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: called a great game, who can control the running game, 344 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: who pitchers love throwing too. You know, you reach out 345 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: to JT's guys agents and you go, hey, you know, 346 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: we got Carlos nevaias he's he's pretty good as a rookie, 347 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 3: but maybe he could help this guy along and any interest. 348 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know the Red Sea that I'm sure 349 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: a lot of other teams see that as well. You know, 350 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: you hear about the good players and how good they 351 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: are in the clubhouse. You hear about the players that 352 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: aren't good in the clubhouse and bad influences. So I 353 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: can see a lot of a lot of kind of 354 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: maybe surprising interests maybe in somebody like JT. Besides the 355 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: teams that just need. They need a frontline catcher. 356 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: And they can do the same thing that the Cincinnati 357 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: I talked about with Cincinnati, and. 358 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: They have the cash to do it. 359 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 5: They got the money to do it, to get JT 360 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: and Shoreber because that puts them on the map with 361 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 5: Shober as well. 362 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the cash to do it. 363 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: Is this all like gut field stuff? 364 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: For You's all gut field stuff. I've got no real feel. 365 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm looking from the side in and 366 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: these guys are still sitting out there, there's some teams. 367 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 5: If I'm smart and I know the relationship between Kyle 368 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: Schwarber and JT, which is strong, you imagine couldn't getting 369 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: that tandem. The thing for the Phillies is this, I'd 370 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: love to have them in Philadelphia, both of them. 371 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: I love both players. They would be tremendous. But you 372 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: know they will be running. 373 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 5: It back if they bring them both back, That's exactly 374 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 5: what they're going to be doing, and they won't be 375 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: able to do much more. So maybe it's not the 376 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 5: worst thing in the world not to have both those 377 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: guys that maybe it gives them an opportunity to change 378 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: things up and mix things up. 379 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: I love Schwarber. 380 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 5: I think he's one of the most important pieces in 381 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 5: the free agent market for so many deep reasons. 382 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: Same thing with JT. 383 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: But if they sign both those guys, that's gonna lock 384 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 5: them down to not. 385 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: Be able to do a whole lot other than that. 386 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: And that's where the difficulty comes for me. For me 387 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: coming from the outside in right. 388 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: That's where you gotta find a catcher, and you got 389 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: to find into power back. 390 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: Is going to cost a lot because it's like going 391 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: to be like an Alonso type or something like that. 392 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 5: But then you give yourself a chance to get an 393 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: Alonzo anabus ship or something like that, and then maybe 394 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 5: you go with the marshawn I don't know. I mean, 395 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 5: if it does make allow you to mix some things up, 396 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: and do you do it with some of the best, 397 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: most important players or do you try to do it 398 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: somewhere else. 399 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: They're sort of locked into some of the other guys. 400 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: And they're not going to be moving them, so that 401 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: would be a major major shake up. 402 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: If you shift, would be it would be a hell 403 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: of a winter meetings. Something like that would be a 404 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: great winter meetings. 405 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 5: I mean, it'd be something to talk about and sometimes 406 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: changes good boys. 407 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: It hasn't worked so far. 408 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: That's what I would also say. 409 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: We all know Terry frank ConA really well he and 410 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: you know Rob Thompson is a great players manager as well. 411 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: Terry a great players Terry would be a drawing card. 412 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: Drawing card. Sure, those two types of personality. 413 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: So Alex Cora for that matter. Yeah, So what else? 414 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Well, he loves Schwarm he of course, I mean who 415 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: does he love schwar. 416 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: Who would not? Who would not? 417 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 5: And we both both guys are quality you, I mean, 418 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 5: I love them both. 419 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: But you never know what's gonna happen. It's free agency. 420 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Crap happens. 421 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I was told not to ask to use 422 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: the S word, so crap happens. 423 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Who told you that. 424 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: My mom his mom? 425 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 5: My mom got on my ass? 426 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: I can say S. 427 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: I can't. 428 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: Apparently, there you go, so so so so pass So 429 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: Jeff Passing, going back to Jeff pass and I think 430 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: it was over a week ago now he said that 431 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: JT is not going to ask require more than a 432 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: two year deal from anybody. 433 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: That's that's a that's a bunch of bs. I think. 434 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: I think if he's getting all this interest three, I mean, 435 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: do we would you guys be surprised if he doesn't 436 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: sign a three year deal or do you guys. 437 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Got pushed for three? 438 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, right right. I mean, I'm. 439 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: Sticking at my guds. 440 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: I'm saying JT's back on a three year deal and 441 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: Schwarber's back on a five year deal. 442 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fast. 443 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 5: Phillis won't be able to do anything else to have 444 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: both those guys back at boardon pieces. 445 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: I love them both, but. 446 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: The Phillies won't do much other than that because they can't. 447 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: Well unless unless they trade a an Alix. They couldn't 448 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: trade them last year. But unless they trade an Alec Bohm's. 449 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 5: Gonna make Marsh shot all those other guys because they're 450 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 5: not treating the other guys with the big. 451 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: Contracts, right Son seven and a half. You know, you 452 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: try to clear some payroll that way, Maybe then you 453 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: get a little bit of wiggle room where Dave can 454 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: go to John and say, you know, you're kicking an 455 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: extra ten We've cleared seventeen and a half, you kick 456 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: an extra. Maybe I'm just just mentioning it. You can 457 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: have to eat Casiance's deal obviously if you want to 458 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 3: get rid of him. One other thing I wanted to 459 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: mention before we wrap this up. There was another report 460 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: last week right before the holidays. GP Morosi at MLB 461 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: Network said, the Phillies have been inquiring about Kettle Marte. 462 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 3: They inquire about everybody, of course, anybody that actually has 463 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: some semblance of being a solid contributor. But we also 464 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: talked about him a lot in October on our Top 465 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: twenty Trade Target show. If they've even missed that one, 466 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: you want to go back and check that out, go 467 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: do it. But you know, the Diamondbacks are supposedly actively 468 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: listening on Kettle Marty. My understanding is that they would 469 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: this is not a surprise, is that they would have 470 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: to be kind of blown away to trade Marte. And 471 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: they're also looking for young, controllable starting pitching. So if 472 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: that's the case, doesn't seem like there's a heck of 473 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: a great match between the Phillies and the Diamondbacks for 474 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: Marte unless you're going to trade Andrew Painter, you know, 475 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: because gage Wood isn't going to get it done right. 476 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 5: I mean, you know who they're not and they're not 477 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: trading Christopher Sanchez. 478 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: They're not. They're not trading Hazus Lozardo. You know Taywan Walker. 479 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: You know Tywan Walker going back to Arizona won't get 480 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: that done. So you know he's so he's gonna start. 481 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 5: With Painter, and it's gonna have to be Painter and 482 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: Miller probably to get him right. 483 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. 484 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so, for a lot of reasons. 485 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: For a lot of. 486 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: Reasons ain't happening. 487 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: This whole, this whole checked in stuff is so funny. 488 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 4: I guarantee you they've checked in on twenty five free agents, 489 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: of course, and twenty trade candidates. 490 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: They've checked in with all twenty nine other teams. I 491 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: mean they have. 492 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 4: That's your job as a GM four assistant GMS. You 493 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: check in with agents, console, you check in with teams. 494 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: What are you thinking they've checked in? You better checking. 495 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: If I'm the owner and you ain't checking in, I'm 496 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: getting rid of you. 497 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: You're not doing your job. 498 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: Rubin. Was there ever a time during your GM run 499 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: where there was an elite player rumored to be available 500 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: in a trade or an elite player available in free 501 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: agency where you're like, you know what, I'm not even 502 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: gonna call anybody to ask about this guy was. 503 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 5: Ever no, never, never, every guy, every single guy in 504 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: one shape, way, shape or form, if he had some 505 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: semblance of helping. 506 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: Us, you checked in. Even if he was a no, 507 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 2: you're not going to get him. 508 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: Even if you know you got an All Star in 509 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: a certain position, you still talk to people and you 510 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: have conversations and uh. 511 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: And that's sort of the job of the GM, every 512 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: single one. 513 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 5: Like if if you're a if you're a large market 514 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: team and you have a payroll it's over whatever, one 515 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty or two hundred million or now it's 516 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 5: three hundred million, you check in on everybody period. 517 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: Exactly how you do it. 518 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: So keep that in mind everybody as the off season progresses. 519 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: And that's that's just a frustrating part as a as 520 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: a reporter. You know, you just somebody will say that 521 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: they've kicked the tires on somebody and you like, you know, 522 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: then people are asking you to what's going on with this? 523 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: It's like, well, have the are the Orioles interested in 524 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: KYLEE Schwarber? I mean, have they have they contacted Casey 525 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: close about Kyleeg Swarber Probably is probably not exactly exactly right. 526 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean we're not doing his job properly correct. 527 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: We've heard the pirates interested on Kyle Schwarber, the Orioles, 528 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: the meg Everybody's everybody would love Kyleg Swaarber. 529 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: Like I could see a lot of people going crazy 530 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: off this podcast. Former Phillies GM says for work and 531 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: real modo to Cincinnati. 532 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: I could see this blowing up. 533 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: Roven. Oh yeah, I'm dropping the mic man. Screw it. 534 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's. 535 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Not if you can possibility, brother, No, not, I agree 536 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: with you. 537 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 4: Not out of the realm of possibility. It's just like 538 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: that's what I would do if I was if I 539 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: was Nick Krawl. But to see it's I have a 540 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: hard time seeing one of them ending up there just 541 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: because of the way they do business. I agree, they're 542 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: a good young team. They've got a great manager. 543 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: You never know, you never know, you never know. Hey, 544 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: everybody in the house, that's right, that's right. 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I got the twenty 552 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: seven A head. 553 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: You got the Austin Matthews head. 554 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: And what happened to it? 555 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 3: Do you guys have a good Thanksgiving? 556 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: Awesome you? 557 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: I had a good Thanksgiving? Yes, we were running around. 558 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 3: Best day of the year, right, I love Thanksgiving. We 559 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 3: went to Longwood Gardens the next day week. 560 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: Oh it was insane. 561 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: It was, I mean long With Gardens the best. The 562 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 3: kids love it, you know, great hit they're hot chocolate. 563 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: We get ours with Bailey's chocolate. 564 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get ours your Thanksgiving? Mine was great, beautiful, lovely. 565 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: Did you have all three girls with you? 566 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 4: We had a dose two out of three. 567 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty good ratio. 568 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 569 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: And then I had one of them made my new 570 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: favorite appetizer, which is I never had it before, and 571 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it's very Thanksgiving e but it was tasty, 572 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: whipped ricotta with like lemon and all this stuff. Put 573 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: it on a little piece of crusty bread. 574 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Did you put a dollup? I put them up ten dollars. 575 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: About side dish. What's your favorite side dish? 576 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: Todd Mine is Mine is mashed potatoes. I love mass potatoes. 577 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, a good mashed potato, real nasal. Nice. What 578 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 3: about you, guys? 579 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: You know I like a really a nice, warm dinner 580 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: roll do donkeys in the mashed potato and gravy. 581 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: That sounds like a mashed potato hoki? What about you 582 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: keep stuffing it in? 583 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 5: My daughter and my future son in law put together 584 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 5: maybe the best mac. 585 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: And cheese I've had in a long freaking time. 586 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 9: It was It had a little crust over it, and 587 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 9: it was moist underneath, and my goodness, it was strong. Now, 588 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 9: you know, obviously the stuffing, I don't call it filling, 589 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 9: call it stuffing. 590 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: Stuffing was really really good. 591 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 5: We have a variety of stuffings that's always a staple, 592 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: but the mac and cheese was special. 593 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Got to give my daughter Andrea some love and Adam. 594 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: They did have a good job with it. One of 595 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: my favorite, one of my favorite things on social media 596 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: around Thanksgiving is this mom who is just crushing her 597 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: daughter for messing up the mac and cheese recipe like 598 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: the traditional mac and cheese recipe. She's like, you do 599 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: all the dishes. 600 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: You do it. Don't. 601 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: Don't experiment on Thanksgiving. Do not experiment on Thanksgiving. You 602 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: got some damn recipe off the internet. 603 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: You ruined it. Do all the dishes. 604 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: We're going up and I'm going to bed. This mom 605 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: just read read her daughter the riot. 606 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Act o't screw up the mac and cheese. 607 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: You not screw up the mac and cheese. Now, Jim 608 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: is the appetizer supplant, your favorite traditional appetizer, which is 609 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: an appetitre za, appetizer za. 610 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 5: Oh nothing, apptiser does not eat an appetizer za before Thanksgiving? 611 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no, just in general, that's his favorite app 612 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: That's Jim's traditional appetizer. 613 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: Like sometimes I go to an Italian restaurant, I can't 614 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: decide between like entree or pizza, so I get the 615 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: pizza as an appetizer, get both. 616 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: Why not? You deserve it? 617 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: You only live once. Absolutely, Oh my gosh. All right, guys, 618 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: Well we'll be back later this week. We're gonna talk 619 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: some winter meetings, and you know, we'll see if any 620 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: any news breaks in the media. 621 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: Wait, it's going to be a bonanza, I hope. 622 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: So all right, I'll talk to you guys later alrighty, 623 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: smelly lator boys. 624 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 625 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 626 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts.