WEBVTT - Nightcap - NFL Week 2 TNF Reaction

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<v Speaker 1>Sportsbook with Cold Shannon is yours. Hello, Welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Nightcap. I'm your co host UNC Shannon Sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>He's the other half co host Chad o Chosenko Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're back again to talk Thursday Night football. But

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles take down a Viking thirty. The Eagles move to

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<v Speaker 1>two and oh the Vikings go to zero and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it away, Oh, Jo, what was your biggest takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>from the game?

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest takeaway from the game was obviously it started

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<v Speaker 2>off really slow.

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<v Speaker 3>It started very slow, very methodical.

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<v Speaker 2>It was somewhat boring almost and really didn't really pick

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<v Speaker 2>up for me and make and get me excited until

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<v Speaker 2>after halftime. Take away the most. The Vikings gotta get going.

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<v Speaker 2>The Vikings have to find a way to get going.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to find a way to establish the run

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<v Speaker 2>they got. They they already got away to get justin

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson going moving them around, put them in different positions

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<v Speaker 2>to make the plays. They got to find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to get the running game going and find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to get a lead. They not playing They're not playing

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<v Speaker 2>well at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing, Oh Joe. Running is about is

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<v Speaker 1>a mentality. You can't say if you run the ball twice,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't get in the yards, you can't say

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<v Speaker 1>the hell with the run and just start pulling it

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<v Speaker 1>all over the yard. And that's seemingly what Minnesota's done.

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<v Speaker 1>But they got to take care of the football. That's

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<v Speaker 1>seven turnovers in two games. In both games, they've had

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<v Speaker 1>at least three turnovers in the first half. That's two

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<v Speaker 1>and they should have had the lead at the half.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jefferson doesn't muff the football out of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>They going into the half with the lead.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a ridiculous rule too. That's that's a ridiculous rule.

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<v Speaker 2>They need they need they need the Competition Committee in

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<v Speaker 2>the offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to go they need to go out and

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of that rule. This ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what would you have the rule be? They get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball back at the two yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly where he loses the ball. He gets it back

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<v Speaker 2>right there. Just the touchback and turning the ball. That's

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<v Speaker 2>to come on, man, come on now.

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<v Speaker 1>That is ay, that's a very very harsh penalty for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Most definitely, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have anybody, I don't know, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a player that's lost it's close. But Kirk Cousins. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at his numbers, he's thirty one or forty three,

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<v Speaker 1>three sixty four four touchdowns. He has these these these

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<v Speaker 1>empty calorie games that if you didn't watch the game

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<v Speaker 1>and you just watched and you just look at the stats, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think he went crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but he he didn't play bad. But early when

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<v Speaker 1>they needed him to make a few plays, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a bed costly turnover that led to seven points.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa, whoa that wait, wait, what's turnover? Not not the

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<v Speaker 3>strip side, that's the left tackle fall. That's the left

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<v Speaker 3>tackle fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the commentator saying, oh, the left tackle dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with an injury.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you're didn't dealing with an.

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<v Speaker 1>Injury and go get the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, he's suppoted to be out there because you just

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<v Speaker 3>you cost of your team.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but here's the thing, this is what this is

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<v Speaker 1>what uh Mike Shannaher used to always tell us I coached.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Look, don't exacerbate the situation. Okay, the left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle got whipped. Hold on to the ball just because

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<v Speaker 1>he got will.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the blind side. Now, that's the blind side. Kirk

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<v Speaker 3>can't even Kirk can't even see buddy coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I understand that, but sometimes you gotta be up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just got to hold onto the ball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it's the blind side, But don't make a

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<v Speaker 1>situation worse. He gets beat and then you turn the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over the Vikings defense, that's terrible. Why you let Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we get the ball back. All we got to do

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<v Speaker 1>is stop promote, Joe. We stopping were gonna get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball back. Oh he d let's go, d let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>and they run the ball down your throats.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen. The most embarrassing thing for any NFL team to

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<v Speaker 3>the all through is to run the ball up and

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<v Speaker 3>down the field and push your push you around, and

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<v Speaker 3>push you around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what Deandres Swift and that almost the Lade

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<v Speaker 2>did for the Eagles to night.

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<v Speaker 3>It was ridiculous. Swift finished with.

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<v Speaker 1>What five carries? They had forty eight rushers for two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine five point four carry uh three touchdown. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what's so embarrassing about the run game is because

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<v Speaker 1>you're moving a man against his will. Let that stick

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<v Speaker 1>in for people at home. You're moving the man against

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<v Speaker 1>his will. He said, I'm saying you're finn move from this.

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<v Speaker 1>At first he said no, I ain't. And I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you say you can here and Lane Johnson and Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>donned those getting Landon and Dixon, They got him up

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<v Speaker 1>out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not make the adjustments? Why not make the adjustments defensively?

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<v Speaker 2>If the running game for the Eagles is doing extremely well,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Flores, why not putting nine in the box.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not take Harrison Harrison, bring him that and bring

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<v Speaker 3>him down? They had.

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<v Speaker 1>They needed to bring John Randall back, restless Little Dorman,

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<v Speaker 1>they needed Chris Millar, they needed the Purple People eaters,

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<v Speaker 1>they needed all of them to stop. You know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we getting what we call a four minute offense because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to give you the ball back. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically we got a lot of too tight end. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna try to run the football. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. We know you know what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>And you still can't still can't stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unacceptable, that's unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 3>That's three myself, not in a whole. Now you're owing two.

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<v Speaker 1>You're owing two. So that's the thing about being over

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<v Speaker 1>because you gotta you can think about it now just

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<v Speaker 1>to get the five hundred, you got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>an oh a quarter of seasons go. Yeah, you put

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<v Speaker 1>yourself behind the eight ball so much when you start

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<v Speaker 1>the season like they started. But what do you expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you expect to play in the NFL turn the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over six times in two games before the half

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<v Speaker 1>and win and they ain't had an opportunity to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, there are very few teams in the NFL back

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<v Speaker 2>in turn the boat ball over and still come back

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<v Speaker 2>and actually win a game. You can't turn the ball

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<v Speaker 2>over and expect to win unless your offense is an

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<v Speaker 2>extreme juggernaut and it ain't too many off of the

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<v Speaker 2>team that's out there like that, especially when you turn

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<v Speaker 2>them all over and the other team gets points off

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<v Speaker 2>those turnoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first and second of all, you can't turn the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over like that if you're d fit crap. You

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<v Speaker 1>give up two hundred and sixty yards on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't stop them because they're scoring on their possessions.

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<v Speaker 1>You turn it over. Put them on a short field

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't when you kicked. You can't stop them

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<v Speaker 1>when you kick the ball off and they got to

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<v Speaker 1>go seventy five yards for a touchdown, How the hell

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<v Speaker 1>you expect to stop them if you turn it over

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<v Speaker 1>there on, we got to go twenty yards, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to make your job easy as possible. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to make your job easy as possible. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>they're not doing that. They're not doing that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're the head coach of the Vikings, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your speech? What's your speech at the in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>We put ourselves in the whole, gentlemen, we put ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>in the hole, and we gotta find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>dig it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's obviously a start with practice defense. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to You got to learn how to tackle them.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously I don't want I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>single anybody out, and I can't just put it all

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<v Speaker 2>on floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Florees is a defensive coordinator. He called in the defensive plays,

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<v Speaker 3>but red regardless of what the exit and O is

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<v Speaker 3>it called. The players got to excu you got the execue.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't put it on the coach. If this is

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<v Speaker 3>what he wants to run, we need to be able.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to be able to stop and run whatever

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<v Speaker 3>he's calling to the best of our ability.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know the run is coming, you got to tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>You got to wrap up. Ain't no reason. Deandresis forty

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<v Speaker 2>running six yards of carry and this mad Madden? That

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<v Speaker 2>this on Madden. You run for six yards of carry?

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<v Speaker 1>They run and dive. Oh your hair is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at it like this, what ski what

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<v Speaker 1>I call they running the football? I know they're gonna run.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're gonna run. Everybody in the stadium knows

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna run the football. What the hell can I call?

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<v Speaker 1>Get up your block, defeat the man, get it on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Yeah yeah, I mean it's not like the past. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they man, You see what they doing. They get into

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<v Speaker 1>the bunch formation. They're doing a lot of motion. We

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<v Speaker 1>can if the past game, I get it. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you run all they did, we just turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>had deandrece with the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing nothing pretty, nothing pretty. There was nothing pretty, nothing exotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Hand the ball off. They tried to get aj Aj.

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<v Speaker 3>Brown the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>They wasn't able to get him going. Obviously, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have games like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that. We're gonna talk. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>heated discussion between aj and Jalen Hurst on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it that cause you've been in those situations your receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>You want the ball, and you want the ball early

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to be a part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>If you give Ojo the ball early, you'll have him late. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the frustration started the bill because I got two three catches.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, not only that, do you have two or three catches?

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<v Speaker 2>But Devontae Smith is on the other side going off,

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<v Speaker 2>He go and slap you know what, off and so

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<v Speaker 2>A J. Brown is in here, I'm getting a slant

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm catching a hitch, or I'm in the slot

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm running a little stick route and I look up,

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<v Speaker 2>I got three for I got three for thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>Davonte Smith got.

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<v Speaker 3>Four for one hundred and fifty. Hey that ain't that?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't got four for thirty one? Tube?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, don't that don't sit right with me? That

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<v Speaker 3>don't sit right with me?

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<v Speaker 2>And at times I understand how I understand how Aja feels.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, but it's gonna be games like that. Every

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<v Speaker 2>game you ain't gonna go off. Every game is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like now, what's gonna happen. What's probably gonna happen

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<v Speaker 2>next time is when they come out, when they come

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<v Speaker 2>out next week and they play guess who the first

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<v Speaker 2>Guess who?

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<v Speaker 3>The first three players might go to just to get

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<v Speaker 3>him going, just to keep him happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that he has to take that as a sign

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<v Speaker 1>of respect. Yeah, they fear him and they respect him

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<v Speaker 1>more than they do Divante currently. So they're gonna spend

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<v Speaker 1>the coverage towards him.

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<v Speaker 3>But one, one thing, one thing, this is what I hate.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate for offen of the coordinators to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, off of the coordinators, they have a scheme, They

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<v Speaker 2>have a scheme and the way they do things.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate when.

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<v Speaker 2>Off of the coordinators allow defensive teams to dictate what

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<v Speaker 2>we as Eagles want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate that Justin Jefferson had eleven for one fifty

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<v Speaker 3>nine a night.

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<v Speaker 2>The creativity from the office of the coordinator to move

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Jefferson around to make sure to make sure he

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<v Speaker 2>was part of that offense was emactly even though they lost.

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<v Speaker 3>They can do the same thing with aj Brown. There

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<v Speaker 3>has to be some creativity outside of the scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ojo, when you run for two, you not finnh

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<v Speaker 1>throw for three hundred and run for two sixty this

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<v Speaker 1>late college.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it can happen if you want to if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to do that, it can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you there hadn't been more than I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you there hadn't been in one hundred and five year history.

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<v Speaker 1>There haven't been a two hundred yard rush game and

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<v Speaker 1>a three hundred yard pass give. I bet it hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>happened more than ten times in the history. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you said?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I care.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think about how many carries you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get to get the two hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, this is college.

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<v Speaker 1>To get twenty yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Swift had what one seventy five a night on twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight they had two hundred and sixty two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine yards on forty eight carries. The average you

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<v Speaker 1>only get about somewhere between sixty two and sixty eight plays, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they had forty eight rush a temps and they

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty three pass attempts, so they had seventy one.

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<v Speaker 1>What're you gonna do with that? Hey, when you running

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, think about it. Ojo, will you turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and had the ball? The guy I used to turn around?

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<v Speaker 1>I used to tell the defense, if y'all stop TV,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll throw the ball. But y'all now stopping it, we not.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna throw it to the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know again, but this is what I don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>and this this is something that receivers have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're running the ball really well, don't abandon us.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't abandon me out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Allow me to still feel part of the game plan

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<v Speaker 3>and a part of one of the reasons why we won.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was probably part of the frustration that AJ

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<v Speaker 2>Brown was feeling. I guarantee you, but again what I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like? Okay, we're running the ball really well, were

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<v Speaker 2>playing really well. Obviously the Vikings made a late comeback

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<v Speaker 2>toward the third and four.

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<v Speaker 3>I call it garbage time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he'll be calories, move him.

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<v Speaker 3>Move him around, put him in positions to make plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that. You're saying what they do with Justin Jefferson?

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<v Speaker 1>I know Seed, you know what I'm hearing you say.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't never heard no receiver. I ain't never heard

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<v Speaker 1>no a receiver. When they throwing the ball, you got

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty TJ had one hundred A man

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<v Speaker 1>get that ball to Corey. Let Corey feel some love.

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<v Speaker 1>Why y'all want to whoa woa, whoa whoa, whoa whoa?

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<v Speaker 1>You ever said that? Have you ever said actually when

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<v Speaker 1>you had that too, when you had that two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard day, you had them back to back? How many

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<v Speaker 1>times did you go to the sideline un tell the

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<v Speaker 1>office the coordinated Let's let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give you that, let me give you let

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<v Speaker 2>me give you a better understanding on why I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to get that you under yard day or TV

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<v Speaker 2>was able to have that one fifty yard day. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in our day when we played, we was in the

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<v Speaker 2>past happy offense. We played in the running area. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you forgetting remember the era.

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<v Speaker 3>I played in Jamal Lewis, Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon.

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<v Speaker 2>We ran the ball first and how were we able

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<v Speaker 2>to at those yards? Because I was established the run,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was established well before you.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa, whoa whoa. No, you wasn't when you came in

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<v Speaker 3>the league ninety I came in the league in ninety three.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about, man?

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't came in no league in no ninety three.

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<v Speaker 1>You came to the NFL in ninety three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I was born in sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do me like whatver whatever. But anyway, as I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, you ever go to the offensive court, you

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<v Speaker 1>ever go to an offensive court and say, you know what, man, man,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all make sure y'all get somebody running backs of love

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<v Speaker 1>right then? No wide receiverever.

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<v Speaker 3>This is but I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is what you don't understand is the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we established the running.

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<v Speaker 3>Game to open us up. It wasn't. Now it's the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how do you get damaged running game? How your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback through for four hundred yards and you established a run?

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<v Speaker 1>When where? How?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they had to drop they had to drop a

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<v Speaker 2>man in the back, because Rudy Johnson was going crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>Cedric Benson was going crazy. Oh, Corey Diller was going crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop that man in the box. We're gonna kill you

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside. Matter of fact, even if you did

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<v Speaker 2>double team us, we're still gonna get busy.

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<v Speaker 1>So what so, how would you how would you grade

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts in this game? What? What grade would you

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<v Speaker 1>give Hurts?

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<v Speaker 3>I give Jen Hursts a B. I give a B

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<v Speaker 3>a BA and that that's a good beat. They could

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<v Speaker 3>they could have put they could have put the game

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<v Speaker 3>away a little bit more, a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was bad. That bad. That was a bad interception.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where it was going with the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either, But I give him a beat. I

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<v Speaker 3>give him.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna make mistakes. You're gonna make mistakes. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as it wasn't, it's still costly because something

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<v Speaker 2>like that can hurt you in the long run.

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<v Speaker 3>Down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, let's let's jump here. I'm actually in Colorado nine

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver, and we're going up the boulder obviously to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to coach Prime and this team to have a

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<v Speaker 1>big game tomorrow against n State rival Colorado State and

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<v Speaker 1>J jay norval Uh. He said, I took my I

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<v Speaker 1>took my hat off, and I took my glasses off.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, when you when I talked the grown ups,

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<v Speaker 1>I take my hat and my glasses off. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>my mother taught me. Why is he worried about what

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<v Speaker 1>another man's doing on his team?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that have to do with the game they

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<v Speaker 2>got to play? What does that have to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the game they have to play coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Why why would you give Dion his players that coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Staff bulletin board material and make things personal. You just

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<v Speaker 2>saw what happened to Matt rule when they did it

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<v Speaker 2>last week, and here you go again with the same

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<v Speaker 2>riga moreau. As my grandma used to say. So now

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to go out there and back that up, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not why not praise Dion? Why do not I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what what he's been able to do and

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<v Speaker 2>come in and change his program in such a short

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time.

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<v Speaker 3>That is amazing. What he's been able to do is

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<v Speaker 3>been awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been great. Dion has been Dion since day one.

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<v Speaker 2>Have we not watched him in the NFL? Have we

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<v Speaker 2>not watched him as a coach? Nothing about Dion has change.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I love about the most. He has

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<v Speaker 2>remained his true, authentic self, not conforming to how I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe coaches in.

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<v Speaker 2>College have some type of pack where we're all gonna

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<v Speaker 2>conduct ourselves and act the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and never know what to him?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it is, Ojo. I believe there are coaches

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes that are envious and jealous of coach

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<v Speaker 1>Saban or envious and jealous of Dabble or Kirby Smart,

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<v Speaker 1>but they never verbalize it. You never hear them say

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<v Speaker 1>these things publicly. There's a lot of envy, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of jealousy with coach Prime and the way he does

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's unconventional, because of what he says, the

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<v Speaker 1>way he talks, the way he conducts himself. But it

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<v Speaker 1>works for his team. The way coach saving practices at

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama might not work for Dabble at Clemsond, or it

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<v Speaker 1>might not work for somewhere, so for someone somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>But why are you concerned? What is him taking his

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<v Speaker 1>hat off? What is him taking his glasses off? What

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<v Speaker 1>does that got to do with you? I have and

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<v Speaker 1>raising his team and trying to rape bring bring in

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<v Speaker 1>boys and when they lead their men. Let him do

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<v Speaker 1>it his way, You do it your way. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of envy and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>jealousy and a lot of resentment publicly for coach Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>But why please help me, help me understand why it

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be. It shouldn't be as a coach, as a

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<v Speaker 3>coach black coach?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that and understanding how difficult it is for black

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<v Speaker 2>coaches to get jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Get powered five jobs, absolute yes, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Being in positions of power to lead men. But to

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<v Speaker 2>come back and say, oh, when I do interviews, I

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<v Speaker 2>take off my glasses in my hat because.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your interview. You should do however you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>What what did we talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if he have a cover and a

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<v Speaker 1>straw hat on them. The way you conduct your business

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<v Speaker 1>where you get interviews, the way you coach your team,

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't got nothing to do with how I do business.

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<v Speaker 1>Over here. I don't concern myself with you, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know how it is. We concern ourselves, were always concerning

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves with things that don't concern us.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I always learn is every

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<v Speaker 2>time you focus on somebody else's plate, every time you

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<v Speaker 2>focus on somebody's plate, somebody eating off of yours, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna see the results of what happened when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't lock it on your own plate. When they play

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<v Speaker 2>against them, buffs made it personal.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was coached prying with knowing, knowing prime the

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<v Speaker 1>way I do, I try to hang one hundred on them,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can't, you can't. You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that. Coaches have a coaches have a pack,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a certain line that you don't cross, like

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<v Speaker 2>fail crossing, don't keep scoring, you don't keep I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it worked like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I ate, you know, the I'm crossing the roof because

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<v Speaker 1>he because here's the thing, there was no need for

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<v Speaker 1>him to take a shot at time. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>need for him to take a shot at time, none.

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<v Speaker 3>No purpose, maybe did no purpose for his team for

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<v Speaker 3>the sake of his team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm trying to score one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Get get fired up, Okay, I think, yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 3>do it on purpose. Yeah, I got you, I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't talked to you Monday night. Aaron Rodgers goes

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<v Speaker 1>down four plays into his jet tenure, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>has been said. You know, the turf, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and what have you. When you when he first

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<v Speaker 1>went down, what were your initial thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what it was based on his mannerisms, his

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<v Speaker 2>body language. And then when you get and tackle the

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<v Speaker 2>first time your foot went in the ground, Let your

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<v Speaker 2>body go, Let your body go, limp, just fall, just relaxing.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you fight that?

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<v Speaker 2>You turn around and turn around again and still fighting

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<v Speaker 2>as if you try to get up out of there

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<v Speaker 2>for what you got?

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<v Speaker 3>All that pressure pulling you down. And as soon as that,

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<v Speaker 3>soon as the inflection, it's still popping. It got somebody

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<v Speaker 3>to get weighed.

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<v Speaker 2>Let your body go and go limp man, Aaron, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been playing football for nineteen years, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Previously.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe it was a play before, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>two plays prior. He was able to spin out of

0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that the same way God came off edge. He's fun

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. This time, it didn't work. You know,

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 2>he got you just fall down, let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>But you live to play another play oh Jo. But

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you know on a three step drop, you know bot

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.399
<v Speaker 1>tackles are trying to get the guy hands down because

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball is gonna come out quick. You know, you

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 1>cannot whatever side you pick on the three step drop,

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you gotta stay that side you can't get. Because he

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<v Speaker 1>started to come back and then try to go backside,

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you can you can't. You can't do that. So once

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<v Speaker 1>he went right and they're covered more the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad. I feel bad for him for the simple

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there was so much anticipation he had seen

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to have found new life. He wanted to be somewhere.

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.119
<v Speaker 1>And I tell people this all the time. My grandma

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>used to always say, the loneliest place in the world

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:16.919
<v Speaker 1>is to be somewhere you're not wanted. He knew that

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't wanted in Green Bay, and so now he

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>had found the home. They had welcomed him with open arms.

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.200
<v Speaker 1>He had the kind of cachet that he's always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay. They had given him that in New

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<v Speaker 1>York and then four plays in it's over. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hard injury to overcome too, Ojo, especially at.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine thirty nine four.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're right he about to be party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, but listen that that injury with technology

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 2>would rehab and the things that they can do now

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<v Speaker 2>these days.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be back in six months.

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.440
<v Speaker 2>And based on his Instagram post, he's letting the city

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<v Speaker 2>of New York and the New York Jets know that

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<v Speaker 2>he will be back next year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not even I'm not fred I'm not even

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<v Speaker 3>a friend. You know why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I believe in Zach Wilson. I believe, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like Zach Wilson. I love Zach Wilson. I love him

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<v Speaker 2>to death. And matter of fact, you do, you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You know why Aaron Rodgers in New York? Tell me

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 2>why Aaron Rodgers was in New York?

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Can I can I say some police? Can I say something?

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Please?

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Zach Wilson.

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Let Zack Wilson had expectations come out of b YU right, as.

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<v Speaker 3>Did the New York Jets. As did the New York Jets.

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Things didn't go the way he would want to. They didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how tough it is to go from b

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>YU and dealing with the New York Media.

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Of all outlet. You got to deal with the pressure.

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>One thing my grandma always said, you surround yourself by

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<v Speaker 2>certain individuals.

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 3>At some point you become one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>How long how long has Zach Wilson been around Aaron Rodgers?

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<v Speaker 3>How many months? About O T A so you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been he's been riding for a little bit. I

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>think enough is rubbed off on Zach Wilson, on Zack

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Wilson on how how to prepare, how to prepare, how

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<v Speaker 2>to play the game at quarterback, how to be a

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<v Speaker 2>better leader, just little nuances that we the public, the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Fans don't know about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's gonna be a much better quarterback than

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<v Speaker 2>he was before because of him being by Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, tell you I know so, and

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 3>you gonna see it when they play.

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Dallas bro bro Last year they were wearing the backup.

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 1>You remember what happened in Philly. They started They built

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>a monument to Nick Foles. Carson Winz was the starter.

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>He had to see on his jersey. They built a montage,

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they built a shrine. They was wearing the backup quarterbacks Jersey. Oh, Joe,

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you trying to tell me all of a sudden, they

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>believe in you.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, sometimes all the tape, sometimes all the take is

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 2>surrounding yourself for the right person. I'm telling you, you

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<v Speaker 2>think you think Zach don't feel bad about how things

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>went last year. His expectations are higher than all of ours.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>He wanted to come in and be the best he can.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>It didn't happen, But I guarantee you. I guarantee you,

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Wilson, prove everybody wrong. I guarantee you that, and

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>start with the Cowboys on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>I would ask you this, do you think the expect

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>expectations for the Jets were hired last year or this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 2>They were hired this year obviously because Aaron Rodgerson and

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>they got a number they got, They got a top

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<v Speaker 2>five defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Now think about what you just said. Do you do

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know the number one cause of a relationship ending

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>if uncommunicated expectations. He wants to go somewhere, But she

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell you uncommunicating. She has expectations, but she didn't

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>communicate with that way that he wanted to do this.

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>You didn't know, she didn't communicate that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, but you didn't tell her. Okay, now we

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>got expectations. That's been communicated, right, How do you think

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have that pressure the first time? The first

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>time he go out there and he have one of

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>them Joe Joe Burrow. And I'm not saying I'm saying,

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 1>have one of those Joe Burrow games. We throw for

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty two yards and the defense balling out and they

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>lose seven to three.

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Then he just throw a interception the other night and

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 2>he came right back and did what. He threw an interception,

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and he came right back and did what he answered.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you yes, sir? That met you? I just one

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of them. One thing? How many times you thank the

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the opposing team. Because Joshalla was the best

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>player on the Jets, he happen to play for Buffalo.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Listen, we can't Okay, We're gonna we can't. Josh Allen

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 2>lost the game. Is that that's what we're gonna use. That's

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 2>that's a part of football. That's a part of football.

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>We can we can go through. We can go through

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>every game on the on the one o'clock slate. This

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<v Speaker 2>this coming Sunday and we can find well, you know

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 2>why they lost. They lost because of so and so

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>did it. That's a part of the game. That's a

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 2>part of the game.

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>The differences between Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in a paper.

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 3>They throw interceptions.

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>You expected to win. Now you've got Zach Wilson. You

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>hope to win well if the defense, if the defense

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>plays lights out, if we don't turn the ball over

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and an eagle land on the flag pole at twelve

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>ten pm, we got a great chance to win it.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>There is no expect there's no I expect to win.

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>There's all hope to win.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Listen, like Chetick Danny Tanna said, I wish a motherfucker

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what a quarterback. A quarterback is only good

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>as his supporting cast. You got Lizard, you got Cobb,

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.479
<v Speaker 2>you got probably top five right now in the league

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>of young receivers up and coming.

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 3>And Garrett Wilson you got a top five DP, you

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 3>got a top five defense.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 2>All Zach Wilson has to do is facilitate and don't

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 2>make mistakes.

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>If he could do that, I hope you're right, because

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of hope and anticipation and expectations. Man,

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>do you know what what disappoints the person the most

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>is when you have expectations. I met the woman of

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>my dreams and she not what I thought she was.

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, I had expectations. I saw us with a

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>piget fence and two point five kids and two cards expected. Yes,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>two and a half kids.

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, that's.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>What I would expecting. I got these expectations and she

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't what I thought she was.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Do you know how bad that hurt?

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, we both before you got married, we both

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>been in situation. You didn't care what she did, and

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>she didn't care what you did. And when she found

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, you didn't give a d. But when you

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>loved that person, you invest the time, you invested energy,

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and she did what she did. It hurt. So now

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>there's the expectation and we talk, it's gonna hurt.

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. Oh, And you took me back. You took

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>me back.

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to I didn't want to go there, but

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I want you to understand what I got you to

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>a person's emotions, right.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I got you and listen. Zach Wilson understands what's at

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the helm. He understands that he has a city. He

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>has a city riding what I'm riding with him. I'm

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>not sure how the city feels about it. But listen,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Zach Wilson's after him right now.

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 3>With all that he needs to support. That's it, Shannon.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>You're not giving Zach Wilson your support. I'm telling you his.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Job is gonna be a little bit easier because of

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a supporting cast, and he gonna be all right because

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>that damn defense.

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness. They the real deal, the real deal.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Whitehead had three interceptions. He had a two hundred

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand dollars incentive clause in his contract. If

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he gets three interceptions, he gets a quarter of a meal.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>He's already done that the first game. Do you have

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a story where you have had incentives in your contract

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that you reached It were like, ooh, your boy just

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>got fifty, your boy just got a hundred, or with

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the incentives in your contract that you like, I mean,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I missed out on this money.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I had incentives in my contract. I know

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I did, obviously, because all contracts are incentive based at

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>some point somewhere in the in the in the in

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the fine print. But I don't have a story. I'm

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>not gonna see him make one up either. But I

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>know I did. I can't remember off the top of

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>my head. You got to bring that question to me

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>next time. You got to bring that question to me,

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 2>because I'm gonna go do my homework.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go do my homework because I know I

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 3>had some some.

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Some after well. I think see I was a self

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>around draft pick, so absolutely I had incentives in my contract.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I had incentives if I got if I got a

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand yards, I got one hundred thousand dollars. That was

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a night. That's one hundred thousand dollars back then was

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. I mean it still has a

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, but it was really a lot considering

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I was only making three hundred thousand, so hell, that

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>was about to be a third of my So I

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>needed one hundred and twenty one yards to get a thousand.

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh cho I had five catches for a buck sixteen

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to two touchdowns at the half and didn't catch another pass.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 3>They did that on purpose.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they did.

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Know they did that on purpose.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Because I've heard the stories of running backs needing a

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>certain number of carries, needing a certain number of yards

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>towards the end of the season so they can hit

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it in the centive. Oh and the team decided to

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>make a business decision. Yeah, I've heard the horror story.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>It's happened many a time.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>One of the incentives I can think about it had

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with playtime. Just all I can remember

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>off the top of my head was the all season program.

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 2>The all season program.

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 3>You know you ain't go to that. Hell now, austinon program.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>You know you get you get three in the fifty

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>grand to attend aston program?

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, get ninety percent. And that's only what I

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 3>can remember.

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure I had something for touchdowns and catches

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But I took incentive out of my contract after that

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>point because somebody else could control it. Because the way

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I look at it, I feel I was the best

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>at my position. Shouldn't I go to the Pro Bowl? Right?

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be a center, should not be

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>All Pro, should not lead the team, and catching, should

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>not lead the team. And touchdowns I'm that dude, right right,

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't need you to incentiviize that I am. I'm here,

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm who I said I was. See.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I know they do play games with it though.

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>They play games with Oh, they play games, especially when

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it's time to hit those incentives. Man, they they keep

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>track of all that stuff, especially if you're running back.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>If you're running back, they're gonna they're gonna play with you.

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>They gonna play with you everything.

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>But you try to do you lobby You should be a

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>lobbyist in DC, because boy, you lobbying hard for the

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>running back to get their paper.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they need to, they need to. I'm not sure. Listen,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>the league.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I understand the league is in a place now where

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>they don't value the running back position as much as

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>they should. But again, at some point they're they're running

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>backs out there that are special.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>If you special, if you special, Sa Kwan, Alvima Kamara,

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 3>CMC Derrick Henry Nick Chubb.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what I saw what I saw from DeAndre shift

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Knight where they ain't even use him in the past

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>game Swift the lineup in the slots, slip Swift the

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>lineup like Le'Veon Bell Shulde with the Steelers way out

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>there running slants and stuff like that. They should be

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>hitting double figures, ten, fifteen, twenty million deal contracts. Those

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>are the type of money they should be getting when

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you're special.

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying? Just the way I

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>look at it, I don't care if you don't give

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>me but ten dollars, but I want all my teen

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because I don't like that. Because here's the thing I

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. Now if I if I I don't perform,

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you released me and say you're making a business decision.

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I signed a contract. I performed the contract. I say

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to raise you've been with I signed the contract.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>What so do you think about Dad Bryant when they

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>have they released dead? Dad had two years left. So

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like the only business that matter. And that's why

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I tell guys, man, don't y'all give them no discount,

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>because not one time have you heard the NFL give

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>these networks a discount from broadcasting live events. But they

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you they want a millionaire to give a billionaire a discount.

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, oh home hometown discount?

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Where they do that at You ain't from my hometown.

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know not one owner from Glennville, and ain't

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>none of them got no last name, Porter or shark

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 1>r related. Man.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's it's a tough business.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I think as fans, fans sometimes they get upset at

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 2>the players for fighting for their money and the fact

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>that the fact that we have to fight for fight,

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>that we have to fight by money.

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 3>I think you are you surprised?

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised? How the how the billionaires have convinced

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the fans that they that the fans have more in

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>car coming with billionaires than they do the players with

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>your millionaires. Because here's the thing, this is what the

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 1>owners know. This was a little bit before your time,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>but I remember it because I'm older. I'm a lot

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>older than you. In eighty two and eighty seven, they

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>struck and they put and I won't I won't be

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>disrespectful to the players because some of the players ended

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>up making rosters, but the replacement players and guess what happened.

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>The fans showed up like they was like they was

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>John Elway and Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. So they

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>miss a b right and the owner says, oh so redly,

0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>So we ain't gonna do nothing. We ain't gonna get

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>your own game he contracts, we're not gonna give you

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>on the last time heal's benefits because we can put

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody out there and replace you guys, and the product

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>goes on. And guess what these broadcasters and they're gonna average,

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna put They're gonna put it on because people

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>love live events. Fans.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that wouldn't work today.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it wouldn't work today, Oh Joe.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Why the product on the field right now?

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 2>If you take let's say all fifteen sixteen hundred players

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>say you know what, Okay, we ain't playing, and the

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>owner said, okay, we're gonna.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Get people to replace y'all. The product on the field

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna be the same.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>It won't be saying. But guess what. The fans gonna

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>still show up because they love football. They struck in

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, they struckted eighty two, and guess what happened

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those players. I ain't gonna name the names,

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 1>but you go back and look it up. I want

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you to do your homework and look it up and

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>look at those big names that cross that picket line,

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and guess what happens. So if you get four or

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>five six of those big name guys crossing what the

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>guy that with in the fifth round of the sixth

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>round or an undrafted free agent if you got guy

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that got MVP. The dp O wives come across the

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>pigure line. What you think they gonna do? Oyo? They

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:17.919
<v Speaker 1>coming to right because them owners know see the banks say, okay, Jerry, hey,

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to push that thirty million dollar loan payment down.

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I got, I want to push you till next year.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Go tell your bank you better give them their money

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>or you better get up out that house in three months.

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And the private school that you sending your kids to,

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to be a public school until you

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>make them payments.

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Right right, right right, And the owners know that. Yeah,

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 3>it's a dirty game, man, it is. It's a dirty

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 3>game when you when you go beneath the surface and

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 3>you start peeling back them layers. It's that dirty game.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>But oh Joe, that's why I tell the guys, don't

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.919
<v Speaker 1>mess your money up. You gonna this thing. You're gonna

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>wake up one morning and it's gonna be over.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 3>It's a racket.

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I got every dime that Denver and the Raven was

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to give me. They took not one dime for

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>me for mentional meeting, being late, doing nothing. I will

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>get all my I will every die that I'm supposed

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to get.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, I got a question. You talk about every diamond.

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting off the subject of we're talking football, we're

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>talking sports for this stuff.

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>We talk anything, we won't just our show.

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Listen, I've seen you, I've seen you. Find you flying private?

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 3>You know how much it costs a fly private man?

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you know? Yeah?

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know how hard you work. I know

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 3>how hard. But come on, let me fly with me somewhere.

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Let me fly with me on spirit real quick eighteen E.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a question. O yo, I'm sure. Unfortunately,

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>there have been some people that passed in your family.

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>You're going to you know, homegoing.

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Services Mama and grandma? Yeah, yeah, was.

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>There a breaks truck in any part of that procession? Now?

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Were there a U haul in any of that procession?

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 1>So she ain't nobody took nothing with them. M Now

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you leave everything what you think your kid is gonna

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>do you think your kids gonna be as frugal and

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 1>it's frifty and as miserly as you now you made

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>up you made all that money. Now you that you

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I would hope so because Hope see that you you

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>see what you said?

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 3>You hope you said. Listen, let me tell you that's

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 3>a few.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>That's a female's name I don't know nothing about than Hope.

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I went to school with a girl named Hope Perkins.

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Listen, Shannon, what percentage of us go broke two years

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:43.720
<v Speaker 2>after we finished planning?

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>What percentage that's? That's if you, oh, probably like eighty

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>seven percent.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 3>If I'm not eighty seven percent of us go broke

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:51.240
<v Speaker 3>after we're done playing.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but see that's when you got you got three

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>houses full cars, and you got both people on college funds.

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>That's not your key. You know what I'm talking about.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're talking about. But even still, I

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 2>got four eleven kids. I'm still doing well, very well. Yeah,

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 2>for sure, very very very well, twelve eleven kids removed

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 2>from the game of football.

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I eat. I eat a certain way,

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>but I treat myself occasionally. I'll eat some cookies, I

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>have some chicken, I have a burger. So if I

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>want to work as hard as I've been working, say

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm gonna go. I wasn't gonna be

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 1>able to make the game on time, right, I promised time.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>When I came out here and interviewed him in December,

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I say, I'll be here for your first game, Yes,

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>sir see. I don't make promises, because promises are like

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>pot crust thing and easily broken. I make commitments. I

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>committed to that man that I was gonna come see

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>his first own game. Right, I'm coming. I'm coming.

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to be in your personal business.

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I just in case, in case for me, if I

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>want to say, I want to dibble in mustache and

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to, you know, take the kids somewhere, ravaget,

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, we go on vacation or something.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 3>What what what's that gonna run me by? How much?

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 3>What's that gonna run?

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>It all depends. It all depends on how big the

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>jet is and how far you going.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's see, I need a big one because.

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, right, so you want you want a G

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 1>you want a G five, G six. So you're talking

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen twenty thousand hour whoa.

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Whoa whoaa rewind fifteen to twenty thousand an hour hour?

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh nah, man, shit oh my bad, bad, No man,

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:50.919
<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty thousand an hour.

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 3>So if I got out of l A and l

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 3>A is that's a father five, I say forty. I

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 3>gotta pay fifty.

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Grand more than that, yeah, more than that problem.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, come stop playing man, listen, listen. I fly.

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 3>I have to do. I have to work.

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I have to work and fly and travel. Every Monday,

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I gotta go to Jersey. Right, you gotta go to Jersey.

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Quit right down the street.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Two hour, will fly.

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>I get Spirit Airlines ticket eighty dollars round trip. I

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>get from point A to point B just as fast,

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>just as quick as you.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 3>You and you you in Colord.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know what I need?

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 3>It is you get that get the extra role, You

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 3>get the.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You ain't had no baying. You saw your boy laying

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>down eating breakfast and breakfast and at thirty thousand.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Hey, but listen, listen. Let me tell you what I

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 3>can do.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I can stop at the drive through and get breakfast

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 2>before I get on that flight. No, and sleep at

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand, oh Joe, sleep.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm not I'm not wasteful. I'm not wasting I'm

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>not waitful with my money. O yo Okay, I got

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I got two repaired hips. I got two artificial hips. Wait,

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>artificial eye suck. Yeah, I got my heal both my

0:42:58.840 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>heills replaced.

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Wait one question, one question? Both your hip replaced. I

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>messed up. Did you eat health? Did you eat healthy

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 3>while you was playing?

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Man? Did? We're not doing.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm just I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just asking

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 3>when you when when you was in the NFL, did

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 3>you eat healthy while you were playing? I'm just asking

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 3>a question.

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, okay, all right, all right.

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it had anything to do with your

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 3>h replacements. I'm just asking if you ate healthy or not.

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 3>But okay, go ahead.

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so what you're what you're trying to say,

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to get?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just trying to say. I was just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say. I played. I played for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I played.

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<v Speaker 1>You did you didn't play long with me? You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play long with me?

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<v Speaker 3>I played long. I played.

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<v Speaker 2>I played twelve. I played twelve twelve, I played twelve

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<v Speaker 2>with no injuries, not one. Well I'm messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>My pinky. Look at my pinky. I can't even I

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<v Speaker 3>can't look I play.

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<v Speaker 1>I got fourteen for a team.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, you ain't playing the trenches like

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<v Speaker 3>I did, though.

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<v Speaker 1>You better stop. I was a tighty year you you

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<v Speaker 1>ever been on one special team?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>I played special teams until my fourth year of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>A gunner, So was I? And I was an L

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<v Speaker 1>three on the kickoff kick return. I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>punt punt return.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I was a kicker. I was a backup kicker.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're saying, you ain't only you ain't the only

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<v Speaker 2>special team dude, like I do it all?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you see what? Did you see what

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<v Speaker 1>that pointer did in Buffalo? Did you see what he did? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say you will you say you was

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<v Speaker 1>a kicker. I don't play that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, chens don't do that. Don't do that because I

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<v Speaker 2>played safety. I played safety in high school. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that, my goodness, don't everybody played. Everybody with

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<v Speaker 1>played both sides of the football.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a funny thing some a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. This is something a lot of people don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to share the story. Obviously, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to Oregon State. I played with TEJ who's Mazzada as

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<v Speaker 2>a receiver my quarterback? When Jonathan Smith, who now is

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach of Oregon State. The funny thing is

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<v Speaker 2>I was supposed to be a defensive back going into

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<v Speaker 2>the draft, I was supposed to be a defensive back.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Oregon State play DV. Listen to me,

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<v Speaker 2>let me finish.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll lie for you before I lie to you. But

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<v Speaker 2>I get drafted by the Bengals. I tell mister Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Brown, I really don't want to play receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>I want.

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<v Speaker 2>My dream is to always be an NFL DV because

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be like Prime. I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>like Prime. But the DV room was too crowded. The

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<v Speaker 2>DV room was too crowded, and they moved me to receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Oh Joe, you won't hit nobody. You won't.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't. They said the same thing about Prime.

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<v Speaker 2>They said the same thing about Prime, and he gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hit nobody, He's gonna hear.

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<v Speaker 3>But one thing about it, why I locked down one

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<v Speaker 3>side of the field. Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Why does everybody when they talk about they go to

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<v Speaker 1>the highest man. I was like Prime, or I was

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<v Speaker 1>like Lebron or I was like King Griffy. Why y'all

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<v Speaker 1>just can't go to a marginal player.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm not nothing about me marginal, nothing about me, marginal,

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<v Speaker 3>only margin. I know it's butter. I ain't the one

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not the two. I'm just telling you. Look

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<v Speaker 3>at my check my check my resume, check my status.

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<v Speaker 3>In high school, I had, I had, I had. I

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<v Speaker 3>had twenty two picks one year. Nobody ever done that

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<v Speaker 3>before in South Florida, Dade County. Legend. Man, I'm from

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<v Speaker 3>literally city.

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<v Speaker 1>You had twenty two Fantasy picks. That's what you had.

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<v Speaker 1>Never that, Never that, Oh Joe, you play? You were

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver? You were? I had it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a defensive back at first. I was forced

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<v Speaker 2>to move to wide receivers. What I'm trying to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you I was a better.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive What forced you to move there is because you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't hit anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that is not what It was the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the DV room with the Bengals it was too crowded.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you didn't play dB at Oregon State.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes I did. I played both waves. I w was

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter? What did you talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>I was Dion, I did all that, man, I wint that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah Warwick. No, you were saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond who he man Hey at Liberty City listen, Liberty

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<v Speaker 3>City Optimists. I play both ways. I play receiver, I

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<v Speaker 3>play dB. I played quarterback and I play center.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it all, lead it genlemen, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in to another episode of nightcap Unk. Shannon Sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>He's Chad Ocho Cinko Johnson. Tune in again. We'll check

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<v Speaker 1>you out Sunday night and Monday. Monday we got a

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<v Speaker 1>double head of oho. But Sunday night we're back in

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<v Speaker 1>action again. Thank you. We're out.

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<v Speaker 3>Call me if you need me.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't call him if you need a dB, because he

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<v Speaker 1>can do you no good