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Speaker 1: episode of Nightcap. I'm your co host UNC Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 1: He's the other half co host Chad o Chosenko Johnson,
Speaker 1: and we're back again to talk Thursday Night football. But
Speaker 1: Eagles take down a Viking thirty. The Eagles move to
Speaker 1: two and oh the Vikings go to zero and two.
Speaker 1: Take it away, Oh, Jo, what was your biggest takeaway
Speaker 1: from the game?
Speaker 2: The biggest takeaway from the game was obviously it started
Speaker 2: off really slow.
Speaker 3: It started very slow, very methodical.
Speaker 2: It was somewhat boring almost and really didn't really pick
Speaker 2: up for me and make and get me excited until
Speaker 2: after halftime. Take away the most. The Vikings gotta get going.
Speaker 2: The Vikings have to find a way to get going.
Speaker 2: They got to find a way to establish the run
Speaker 2: they got. They they already got away to get justin
Speaker 2: Jefferson going moving them around, put them in different positions
Speaker 2: to make the plays. They got to find a way
Speaker 2: to get the running game going and find a way
Speaker 2: to get a lead. They not playing They're not playing
Speaker 2: well at all.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Oh Joe. Running is about is
Speaker 1: a mentality. You can't say if you run the ball twice,
Speaker 1: if we don't get in the yards, you can't say
Speaker 1: the hell with the run and just start pulling it
Speaker 1: all over the yard. And that's seemingly what Minnesota's done.
Speaker 1: But they got to take care of the football. That's
Speaker 1: seven turnovers in two games. In both games, they've had
Speaker 1: at least three turnovers in the first half. That's two
Speaker 1: and they should have had the lead at the half.
Speaker 1: If Jefferson doesn't muff the football out of the end zone.
Speaker 1: They going into the half with the lead.
Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous rule too. That's that's a ridiculous rule.
Speaker 2: They need they need they need the Competition Committee in
Speaker 2: the offseason.
Speaker 3: They need to go they need to go out and
Speaker 3: get rid of that rule. This ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Okay, what would you have the rule be? They get
Speaker 1: the ball back at the two yard line.
Speaker 2: Exactly where he loses the ball. He gets it back
Speaker 2: right there. Just the touchback and turning the ball. That's
Speaker 2: to come on, man, come on now.
Speaker 1: That is ay, that's a very very harsh penalty for that.
Speaker 3: Most definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean I have anybody, I don't know, if there's
Speaker 1: a player that's lost it's close. But Kirk Cousins. You
Speaker 1: look at his numbers, he's thirty one or forty three,
Speaker 1: three sixty four four touchdowns. He has these these these
Speaker 1: empty calorie games that if you didn't watch the game
Speaker 1: and you just watched and you just look at the stats, you.
Speaker 3: Think he went crazy.
Speaker 1: Yes, but he he didn't play bad. But early when
Speaker 1: they needed him to make a few plays, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He had a bed costly turnover that led to seven points.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa that wait, wait, what's turnover? Not not the
Speaker 3: strip side, that's the left tackle fall. That's the left
Speaker 3: tackle fault.
Speaker 2: And then the commentator saying, oh, the left tackle dealing
Speaker 2: with an injury.
Speaker 3: Well, if you're didn't dealing with an.
Speaker 1: Injury and go get the game.
Speaker 3: Hey, he's suppoted to be out there because you just
Speaker 3: you cost of your team.
Speaker 1: Okay, but here's the thing, this is what this is
Speaker 1: what uh Mike Shannaher used to always tell us I coached.
Speaker 1: He says, Look, don't exacerbate the situation. Okay, the left
Speaker 1: tackle got whipped. Hold on to the ball just because
Speaker 1: he got will.
Speaker 3: That's the blind side. Now, that's the blind side. Kirk
Speaker 3: can't even Kirk can't even see buddy coming.
Speaker 1: Now, I understand that, but sometimes you gotta be up.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to hold onto the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand it's the blind side, But don't make a
Speaker 1: situation worse. He gets beat and then you turn the
Speaker 1: ball over the Vikings defense, that's terrible. Why you let Okay,
Speaker 1: we get the ball back. All we got to do
Speaker 1: is stop promote, Joe. We stopping were gonna get the
Speaker 1: ball back. Oh he d let's go, d let's go,
Speaker 1: and they run the ball down your throats.
Speaker 3: Listen. The most embarrassing thing for any NFL team to
Speaker 3: the all through is to run the ball up and
Speaker 3: down the field and push your push you around, and
Speaker 3: push you around.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Deandres Swift and that almost the Lade
Speaker 2: did for the Eagles to night.
Speaker 3: It was ridiculous. Swift finished with.
Speaker 1: What five carries? They had forty eight rushers for two
Speaker 1: fifty nine five point four carry uh three touchdown. You
Speaker 1: know what's so embarrassing about the run game is because
Speaker 1: you're moving a man against his will. Let that stick
Speaker 1: in for people at home. You're moving the man against
Speaker 1: his will. He said, I'm saying you're finn move from this.
Speaker 1: At first he said no, I ain't. And I say that,
Speaker 1: you say you can here and Lane Johnson and Chelsea
Speaker 1: donned those getting Landon and Dixon, They got him up
Speaker 1: out of there.
Speaker 3: Why not make the adjustments? Why not make the adjustments defensively?
Speaker 2: If the running game for the Eagles is doing extremely well,
Speaker 2: Brian Flores, why not putting nine in the box.
Speaker 3: Why not take Harrison Harrison, bring him that and bring
Speaker 3: him down? They had.
Speaker 1: They needed to bring John Randall back, restless Little Dorman,
Speaker 1: they needed Chris Millar, they needed the Purple People eaters,
Speaker 1: they needed all of them to stop. You know, okay,
Speaker 1: we getting what we call a four minute offense because
Speaker 1: we don't want to give you the ball back. So
Speaker 1: basically we got a lot of too tight end. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna try to run the football. You know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We know you know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: And you still can't still can't stop it.
Speaker 1: That's unacceptable, that's unacceptable.
Speaker 3: That's three myself, not in a whole. Now you're owing two.
Speaker 1: You're owing two. So that's the thing about being over
Speaker 1: because you gotta you can think about it now just
Speaker 1: to get the five hundred, you got to go to
Speaker 1: an oh a quarter of seasons go. Yeah, you put
Speaker 1: yourself behind the eight ball so much when you start
Speaker 1: the season like they started. But what do you expect.
Speaker 1: Do you expect to play in the NFL turn the
Speaker 1: ball over six times in two games before the half
Speaker 1: and win and they ain't had an opportunity to win.
Speaker 2: Listen, there are very few teams in the NFL back
Speaker 2: in turn the boat ball over and still come back
Speaker 2: and actually win a game. You can't turn the ball
Speaker 2: over and expect to win unless your offense is an
Speaker 2: extreme juggernaut and it ain't too many off of the
Speaker 2: team that's out there like that, especially when you turn
Speaker 2: them all over and the other team gets points off
Speaker 2: those turnoffs.
Speaker 1: Well, first and second of all, you can't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over like that if you're d fit crap. You
Speaker 1: give up two hundred and sixty yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: You can't stop them because they're scoring on their possessions.
Speaker 1: You turn it over. Put them on a short field
Speaker 1: if you can't when you kicked. You can't stop them
Speaker 1: when you kick the ball off and they got to
Speaker 1: go seventy five yards for a touchdown, How the hell
Speaker 1: you expect to stop them if you turn it over
Speaker 1: there on, we got to go twenty yards, right.
Speaker 2: You got to make your job easy as possible. You
Speaker 2: got to make your job easy as possible. They're not
Speaker 2: they're not doing that. They're not doing that at all.
Speaker 1: So if you're the head coach of the Vikings, what's
Speaker 1: your speech? What's your speech at the in the locker room.
Speaker 2: We put ourselves in the whole, gentlemen, we put ourselves
Speaker 2: in the hole, and we gotta find a way to
Speaker 2: dig it out.
Speaker 3: It's obviously a start with practice defense. You got to
Speaker 3: learn how to You got to learn how to tackle them.
Speaker 2: And then obviously I don't want I don't want to
Speaker 2: single anybody out, and I can't just put it all
Speaker 2: on floor.
Speaker 3: Florees is a defensive coordinator. He called in the defensive plays,
Speaker 3: but red regardless of what the exit and O is
Speaker 3: it called. The players got to excu you got the execue.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't put it on the coach. If this is
Speaker 3: what he wants to run, we need to be able.
Speaker 3: We need to be able to stop and run whatever
Speaker 3: he's calling to the best of our ability.
Speaker 2: If you know the run is coming, you got to tackle,
Speaker 2: You got to wrap up. Ain't no reason. Deandresis forty
Speaker 2: running six yards of carry and this mad Madden? That
Speaker 2: this on Madden. You run for six yards of carry?
Speaker 1: They run and dive. Oh your hair is the thing
Speaker 1: when you look at it like this, what ski what
Speaker 1: I call they running the football? I know they're gonna run.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna run. Everybody in the stadium knows
Speaker 1: they're gonna run the football. What the hell can I call?
Speaker 1: Get up your block, defeat the man, get it on
Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah yeah, I mean it's not like the past. Okay,
Speaker 1: they man, You see what they doing. They get into
Speaker 1: the bunch formation. They're doing a lot of motion. We
Speaker 1: can if the past game, I get it. But when
Speaker 1: you run all they did, we just turn around and
Speaker 1: had deandrece with the ball.
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing pretty, nothing pretty. There was nothing pretty, nothing exotic.
Speaker 2: Hand the ball off. They tried to get aj Aj.
Speaker 3: Brown the ball.
Speaker 2: They wasn't able to get him going. Obviously, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have games like that.
Speaker 1: We talked about that. We're gonna talk. There was a
Speaker 1: heated discussion between aj and Jalen Hurst on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Take it that cause you've been in those situations your receiver.
Speaker 1: You want the ball, and you want the ball early
Speaker 1: because you want to be a part of the game.
Speaker 1: If you give Ojo the ball early, you'll have him late. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the frustration started the bill because I got two three catches.
Speaker 3: Listen, not only that, do you have two or three catches?
Speaker 2: But Devontae Smith is on the other side going off,
Speaker 2: He go and slap you know what, off and so
Speaker 2: A J. Brown is in here, I'm getting a slant
Speaker 2: or I'm catching a hitch, or I'm in the slot
Speaker 2: and I'm running a little stick route and I look up,
Speaker 2: I got three for I got three for thirty and
Speaker 2: Davonte Smith got.
Speaker 3: Four for one hundred and fifty. Hey that ain't that?
Speaker 1: Don't got four for thirty one? Tube?
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, don't that don't sit right with me? That
Speaker 3: don't sit right with me?
Speaker 2: And at times I understand how I understand how Aja feels.
Speaker 2: I understand, but it's gonna be games like that. Every
Speaker 2: game you ain't gonna go off. Every game is gonna
Speaker 2: be like now, what's gonna happen. What's probably gonna happen
Speaker 2: next time is when they come out, when they come
Speaker 2: out next week and they play guess who the first
Speaker 2: Guess who?
Speaker 3: The first three players might go to just to get
Speaker 3: him going, just to keep him happy.
Speaker 1: Right that he has to take that as a sign
Speaker 1: of respect. Yeah, they fear him and they respect him
Speaker 1: more than they do Divante currently. So they're gonna spend
Speaker 1: the coverage towards him.
Speaker 3: But one, one thing, one thing, this is what I hate.
Speaker 3: I hate for offen of the coordinators to do this.
Speaker 2: Obviously, off of the coordinators, they have a scheme, They
Speaker 2: have a scheme and the way they do things.
Speaker 3: I hate when.
Speaker 2: Off of the coordinators allow defensive teams to dictate what
Speaker 2: we as Eagles want to do.
Speaker 3: I hate that Justin Jefferson had eleven for one fifty
Speaker 3: nine a night.
Speaker 2: The creativity from the office of the coordinator to move
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson around to make sure to make sure he
Speaker 2: was part of that offense was emactly even though they lost.
Speaker 3: They can do the same thing with aj Brown. There
Speaker 3: has to be some creativity outside of the scheme.
Speaker 1: But Ojo, when you run for two, you not finnh
Speaker 1: throw for three hundred and run for two sixty this
Speaker 1: late college.
Speaker 3: I mean, it can happen if you want to if
Speaker 3: you want to do that, it can happen.
Speaker 1: I bet you there hadn't been more than I bet
Speaker 1: you there hadn't been in one hundred and five year history.
Speaker 1: There haven't been a two hundred yard rush game and
Speaker 1: a three hundred yard pass give. I bet it hadn't
Speaker 1: happened more than ten times in the history. Do you
Speaker 1: understand what you said?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I care.
Speaker 1: Do you think about how many carries you have to
Speaker 1: get to get the two hundred.
Speaker 3: Again, this is college.
Speaker 1: To get twenty yards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Swift had what one seventy five a night on twenty.
Speaker 1: Eight they had two hundred and sixty two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty nine yards on forty eight carries. The average you
Speaker 1: only get about somewhere between sixty two and sixty eight plays, right,
Speaker 1: So they had forty eight rush a temps and they
Speaker 1: had twenty three pass attempts, so they had seventy one.
Speaker 1: What're you gonna do with that? Hey, when you running
Speaker 1: the ball, think about it. Ojo, will you turn around
Speaker 1: and had the ball? The guy I used to turn around?
Speaker 1: I used to tell the defense, if y'all stop TV,
Speaker 1: we'll throw the ball. But y'all now stopping it, we not.
Speaker 3: Gonna throw it to the ball.
Speaker 2: But you know again, but this is what I don't like,
Speaker 2: and this this is something that receivers have to deal with.
Speaker 2: If you're running the ball really well, don't abandon us.
Speaker 2: Don't abandon me out there.
Speaker 3: Allow me to still feel part of the game plan
Speaker 3: and a part of one of the reasons why we won.
Speaker 2: And that was probably part of the frustration that AJ
Speaker 2: Brown was feeling. I guarantee you, but again what I
Speaker 2: don't like? Okay, we're running the ball really well, were
Speaker 2: playing really well. Obviously the Vikings made a late comeback
Speaker 2: toward the third and four.
Speaker 3: I call it garbage time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he'll be calories, move him.
Speaker 3: Move him around, put him in positions to make plays.
Speaker 3: Do that. You're saying what they do with Justin Jefferson?
Speaker 1: I know Seed, you know what I'm hearing you say.
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard no receiver. I ain't never heard
Speaker 1: no a receiver. When they throwing the ball, you got
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty TJ had one hundred A man
Speaker 1: get that ball to Corey. Let Corey feel some love.
Speaker 1: Why y'all want to whoa woa, whoa whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 1: You ever said that? Have you ever said actually when
Speaker 1: you had that too, when you had that two hundred
Speaker 1: yard day, you had them back to back? How many
Speaker 1: times did you go to the sideline un tell the
Speaker 1: office the coordinated Let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Let me give you that, let me give you let
Speaker 2: me give you a better understanding on why I was
Speaker 2: able to get that you under yard day or TV
Speaker 2: was able to have that one fifty yard day. Back
Speaker 2: in our day when we played, we was in the
Speaker 2: past happy offense. We played in the running area. Are
Speaker 2: you forgetting remember the era.
Speaker 3: I played in Jamal Lewis, Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon.
Speaker 2: We ran the ball first and how were we able
Speaker 2: to at those yards? Because I was established the run,
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I was established well before you.
Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa whoa. No, you wasn't when you came in
Speaker 3: the league ninety I came in the league in ninety three.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about, man?
Speaker 1: You ain't came in no league in no ninety three.
Speaker 1: You came to the NFL in ninety three.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm.
Speaker 1: Stop it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I was born in sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Don't do me like whatver whatever. But anyway, as I
Speaker 1: was saying, you ever go to the offensive court, you
Speaker 1: ever go to an offensive court and say, you know what, man, man,
Speaker 1: y'all make sure y'all get somebody running backs of love
Speaker 1: right then? No wide receiverever.
Speaker 3: This is but I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But this is what you don't understand is the fact
Speaker 2: that we established the running.
Speaker 3: Game to open us up. It wasn't. Now it's the
Speaker 3: opposite way.
Speaker 1: Now, how do you get damaged running game? How your
Speaker 1: quarterback through for four hundred yards and you established a run?
Speaker 1: When where? How?
Speaker 2: Because they had to drop they had to drop a
Speaker 2: man in the back, because Rudy Johnson was going crazy,
Speaker 2: Cedric Benson was going crazy. Oh, Corey Diller was going crazy.
Speaker 2: Drop that man in the box. We're gonna kill you
Speaker 2: on the outside. Matter of fact, even if you did
Speaker 2: double team us, we're still gonna get busy.
Speaker 1: So what so, how would you how would you grade
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in this game? What? What grade would you
Speaker 1: give Hurts?
Speaker 3: I give Jen Hursts a B. I give a B
Speaker 3: a BA and that that's a good beat. They could
Speaker 3: they could have put they could have put the game
Speaker 3: away a little bit more, a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad. That bad. That was a bad interception.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it was going with the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't either, But I give him a beat. I
Speaker 3: give him.
Speaker 2: You're gonna make mistakes. You're gonna make mistakes. You know,
Speaker 2: as long as it wasn't, it's still costly because something
Speaker 2: like that can hurt you in the long run.
Speaker 3: Down the road.
Speaker 1: Right, let's let's jump here. I'm actually in Colorado nine
Speaker 1: in Denver, and we're going up the boulder obviously to
Speaker 1: talk to coach Prime and this team to have a
Speaker 1: big game tomorrow against n State rival Colorado State and
Speaker 1: J jay norval Uh. He said, I took my I
Speaker 1: took my hat off, and I took my glasses off.
Speaker 1: I said, when you when I talked the grown ups,
Speaker 1: I take my hat and my glasses off. That's what
Speaker 1: my mother taught me. Why is he worried about what
Speaker 1: another man's doing on his team?
Speaker 2: What does that have to do with the game they
Speaker 2: got to play? What does that have to do with
Speaker 2: the game they have to play coming up?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Why why would you give Dion his players that coaching.
Speaker 2: Staff bulletin board material and make things personal. You just
Speaker 2: saw what happened to Matt rule when they did it
Speaker 2: last week, and here you go again with the same
Speaker 2: riga moreau. As my grandma used to say. So now
Speaker 2: you've got to go out there and back that up, right?
Speaker 2: Why not why not praise Dion? Why do not I say,
Speaker 2: you know what what he's been able to do and
Speaker 2: come in and change his program in such a short
Speaker 2: amount of time.
Speaker 3: That is amazing. What he's been able to do is
Speaker 3: been awesome.
Speaker 2: It's been great. Dion has been Dion since day one.
Speaker 2: Have we not watched him in the NFL? Have we
Speaker 2: not watched him as a coach? Nothing about Dion has change.
Speaker 2: That is what I love about the most. He has
Speaker 2: remained his true, authentic self, not conforming to how I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe coaches in.
Speaker 2: College have some type of pack where we're all gonna
Speaker 2: conduct ourselves and act the same.
Speaker 3: Well and never know what to him?
Speaker 1: You know what it is, Ojo. I believe there are coaches
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that are envious and jealous of coach
Speaker 1: Saban or envious and jealous of Dabble or Kirby Smart,
Speaker 1: but they never verbalize it. You never hear them say
Speaker 1: these things publicly. There's a lot of envy, a lot
Speaker 1: of jealousy with coach Prime and the way he does
Speaker 1: it because it's unconventional, because of what he says, the
Speaker 1: way he talks, the way he conducts himself. But it
Speaker 1: works for his team. The way coach saving practices at
Speaker 1: Alabama might not work for Dabble at Clemsond, or it
Speaker 1: might not work for somewhere, so for someone somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But why are you concerned? What is him taking his
Speaker 1: hat off? What is him taking his glasses off? What
Speaker 1: does that got to do with you? I have and
Speaker 1: raising his team and trying to rape bring bring in
Speaker 1: boys and when they lead their men. Let him do
Speaker 1: it his way, You do it your way. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of envy and a lot of
Speaker 1: jealousy and a lot of resentment publicly for coach Brian.
Speaker 3: But why please help me, help me understand why it
Speaker 3: shouldn't be. It shouldn't be as a coach, as a
Speaker 3: coach black coach?
Speaker 2: Is that and understanding how difficult it is for black
Speaker 2: coaches to get jobs.
Speaker 1: Get powered five jobs, absolute yes, and.
Speaker 2: Being in positions of power to lead men. But to
Speaker 2: come back and say, oh, when I do interviews, I
Speaker 2: take off my glasses in my hat because.
Speaker 1: That's your interview. You should do however you want to.
Speaker 3: What what did we talk about?
Speaker 1: I don't care if he have a cover and a
Speaker 1: straw hat on them. The way you conduct your business
Speaker 1: where you get interviews, the way you coach your team,
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with how I do business.
Speaker 1: Over here. I don't concern myself with you, but you
Speaker 1: know how it is. We concern ourselves, were always concerning
Speaker 1: ourselves with things that don't concern us.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I always learn is every
Speaker 2: time you focus on somebody else's plate, every time you
Speaker 2: focus on somebody's plate, somebody eating off of yours, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna see the results of what happened when you
Speaker 2: don't lock it on your own plate. When they play
Speaker 2: against them, buffs made it personal.
Speaker 1: If I was coached prying with knowing, knowing prime the
Speaker 1: way I do, I try to hang one hundred on them,
Speaker 1: I would, I would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can't, you can't. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. Coaches have a coaches have a pack,
Speaker 2: and there's a certain line that you don't cross, like
Speaker 2: fail crossing, don't keep scoring, you don't keep I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think it worked like that.
Speaker 1: I ate, you know, the I'm crossing the roof because
Speaker 1: he because here's the thing, there was no need for
Speaker 1: him to take a shot at time. There was no
Speaker 1: need for him to take a shot at time, none.
Speaker 3: No purpose, maybe did no purpose for his team for
Speaker 3: the sake of his team.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to score one hundred.
Speaker 3: Get get fired up, Okay, I think, yeah, I would
Speaker 3: do it on purpose. Yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: I hadn't talked to you Monday night. Aaron Rodgers goes
Speaker 1: down four plays into his jet tenure, and a lot
Speaker 1: has been said. You know, the turf, and and and
Speaker 1: and and what have you. When you when he first
Speaker 1: went down, what were your initial thoughts?
Speaker 2: I knew what it was based on his mannerisms, his
Speaker 2: body language. And then when you get and tackle the
Speaker 2: first time your foot went in the ground, Let your
Speaker 2: body go, Let your body go, limp, just fall, just relaxing.
Speaker 3: Why you fight that?
Speaker 2: You turn around and turn around again and still fighting
Speaker 2: as if you try to get up out of there
Speaker 2: for what you got?
Speaker 3: All that pressure pulling you down. And as soon as that,
Speaker 3: soon as the inflection, it's still popping. It got somebody
Speaker 3: to get weighed.
Speaker 2: Let your body go and go limp man, Aaron, you've
Speaker 2: been playing football for nineteen years, you know.
Speaker 3: Previously.
Speaker 2: I think maybe it was a play before, or maybe
Speaker 2: two plays prior. He was able to spin out of
Speaker 2: that the same way God came off edge. He's fun
Speaker 2: out of it. This time, it didn't work. You know,
Speaker 2: he got you just fall down, let it go.
Speaker 1: But you live to play another play oh Jo. But
Speaker 1: you know on a three step drop, you know bot
Speaker 1: tackles are trying to get the guy hands down because
Speaker 1: the ball is gonna come out quick. You know, you
Speaker 1: cannot whatever side you pick on the three step drop,
Speaker 1: you gotta stay that side you can't get. Because he
Speaker 1: started to come back and then try to go backside,
Speaker 1: you can you can't. You can't do that. So once
Speaker 1: he went right and they're covered more the way, I
Speaker 1: feel bad. I feel bad for him for the simple
Speaker 1: fact that there was so much anticipation he had seen
Speaker 1: to have found new life. He wanted to be somewhere.
Speaker 1: And I tell people this all the time. My grandma
Speaker 1: used to always say, the loneliest place in the world
Speaker 1: is to be somewhere you're not wanted. He knew that
Speaker 1: he wasn't wanted in Green Bay, and so now he
Speaker 1: had found the home. They had welcomed him with open arms.
Speaker 1: He had the kind of cachet that he's always wanted
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. They had given him that in New
Speaker 1: York and then four plays in it's over. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's a hard injury to overcome too, Ojo, especially at.
Speaker 3: Nine thirty nine four.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right he about to be party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but listen that that injury with technology
Speaker 2: would rehab and the things that they can do now
Speaker 2: these days.
Speaker 3: He'll be back in six months.
Speaker 2: And based on his Instagram post, he's letting the city
Speaker 2: of New York and the New York Jets know that
Speaker 2: he will be back next year.
Speaker 3: But I'm not even I'm not fred I'm not even
Speaker 3: a friend. You know why?
Speaker 2: Because I believe in Zach Wilson. I believe, and I
Speaker 2: like Zach Wilson. I love Zach Wilson. I love him
Speaker 2: to death. And matter of fact, you do, you do?
Speaker 2: You know why Aaron Rodgers in New York? Tell me
Speaker 2: why Aaron Rodgers was in New York?
Speaker 3: Can I can I say some police? Can I say something?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: Let Zack Wilson had expectations come out of b YU right, as.
Speaker 3: Did the New York Jets. As did the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: Things didn't go the way he would want to. They didn't.
Speaker 2: You know how tough it is to go from b
Speaker 2: YU and dealing with the New York Media.
Speaker 3: Of all outlet. You got to deal with the pressure.
Speaker 2: One thing my grandma always said, you surround yourself by
Speaker 2: certain individuals.
Speaker 3: At some point you become one of them.
Speaker 2: How long how long has Zach Wilson been around Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3: How many months? About O T A so you're talking
Speaker 3: about Okay, so.
Speaker 2: He's been he's been riding for a little bit. I
Speaker 2: think enough is rubbed off on Zach Wilson, on Zack
Speaker 2: Wilson on how how to prepare, how to prepare, how
Speaker 2: to play the game at quarterback, how to be a
Speaker 2: better leader, just little nuances that we the public, the outside.
Speaker 3: Fans don't know about.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's gonna be a much better quarterback than
Speaker 2: he was before because of him being by Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, tell you I know so, and
Speaker 3: you gonna see it when they play.
Speaker 1: Dallas bro bro Last year they were wearing the backup.
Speaker 1: You remember what happened in Philly. They started They built
Speaker 1: a monument to Nick Foles. Carson Winz was the starter.
Speaker 1: He had to see on his jersey. They built a montage,
Speaker 1: they built a shrine. They was wearing the backup quarterbacks Jersey. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: you trying to tell me all of a sudden, they
Speaker 1: believe in you.
Speaker 2: Listen, sometimes all the tape, sometimes all the take is
Speaker 2: surrounding yourself for the right person. I'm telling you, you
Speaker 2: think you think Zach don't feel bad about how things
Speaker 2: went last year. His expectations are higher than all of ours.
Speaker 2: He wanted to come in and be the best he can.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen, But I guarantee you. I guarantee you,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, prove everybody wrong. I guarantee you that, and
Speaker 2: start with the Cowboys on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I would ask you this, do you think the expect
Speaker 1: expectations for the Jets were hired last year or this year?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: They were hired this year obviously because Aaron Rodgerson and
Speaker 2: they got a number they got, They got a top
Speaker 2: five defense.
Speaker 1: Now think about what you just said. Do you do
Speaker 1: you know the number one cause of a relationship ending
Speaker 1: if uncommunicated expectations. He wants to go somewhere, But she
Speaker 1: didn't tell you uncommunicating. She has expectations, but she didn't
Speaker 1: communicate with that way that he wanted to do this.
Speaker 1: You didn't know, she didn't communicate that you wanted to
Speaker 1: do this, but you didn't tell her. Okay, now we
Speaker 1: got expectations. That's been communicated, right, How do you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that pressure the first time? The first
Speaker 1: time he go out there and he have one of
Speaker 1: them Joe Joe Burrow. And I'm not saying I'm saying,
Speaker 1: have one of those Joe Burrow games. We throw for
Speaker 1: eighty two yards and the defense balling out and they
Speaker 1: lose seven to three.
Speaker 2: Then he just throw a interception the other night and
Speaker 2: he came right back and did what. He threw an interception,
Speaker 2: and he came right back and did what he answered.
Speaker 1: Are you yes, sir? That met you? I just one
Speaker 1: of them. One thing? How many times you thank the
Speaker 1: quarterback for the opposing team. Because Joshalla was the best
Speaker 1: player on the Jets, he happen to play for Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Listen, we can't Okay, We're gonna we can't. Josh Allen
Speaker 2: lost the game. Is that that's what we're gonna use. That's
Speaker 2: that's a part of football. That's a part of football.
Speaker 2: We can we can go through. We can go through
Speaker 2: every game on the on the one o'clock slate. This
Speaker 2: this coming Sunday and we can find well, you know
Speaker 2: why they lost. They lost because of so and so
Speaker 2: did it. That's a part of the game. That's a
Speaker 2: part of the game.
Speaker 1: The differences between Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady
Speaker 1: in a paper.
Speaker 3: They throw interceptions.
Speaker 1: You expected to win. Now you've got Zach Wilson. You
Speaker 1: hope to win well if the defense, if the defense
Speaker 1: plays lights out, if we don't turn the ball over
Speaker 1: and an eagle land on the flag pole at twelve
Speaker 1: ten pm, we got a great chance to win it.
Speaker 1: There is no expect there's no I expect to win.
Speaker 1: There's all hope to win.
Speaker 2: Listen, like Chetick Danny Tanna said, I wish a motherfucker
Speaker 2: you know what a quarterback. A quarterback is only good
Speaker 2: as his supporting cast. You got Lizard, you got Cobb,
Speaker 2: you got probably top five right now in the league
Speaker 2: of young receivers up and coming.
Speaker 3: And Garrett Wilson you got a top five DP, you
Speaker 3: got a top five defense.
Speaker 2: All Zach Wilson has to do is facilitate and don't
Speaker 2: make mistakes.
Speaker 1: If he could do that, I hope you're right, because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of hope and anticipation and expectations. Man,
Speaker 1: do you know what what disappoints the person the most
Speaker 1: is when you have expectations. I met the woman of
Speaker 1: my dreams and she not what I thought she was.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I had expectations. I saw us with a
Speaker 1: piget fence and two point five kids and two cards expected. Yes,
Speaker 1: two and a half kids.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, that's.
Speaker 1: What I would expecting. I got these expectations and she
Speaker 1: wasn't what I thought she was.
Speaker 3: Do you know how bad that hurt?
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we both before you got married, we both
Speaker 1: been in situation. You didn't care what she did, and
Speaker 1: she didn't care what you did. And when she found
Speaker 1: somebody else, you didn't give a d. But when you
Speaker 1: loved that person, you invest the time, you invested energy,
Speaker 1: and she did what she did. It hurt. So now
Speaker 1: there's the expectation and we talk, it's gonna hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Oh, And you took me back. You took
Speaker 3: me back.
Speaker 1: I want to I didn't want to go there, but
Speaker 1: I want you to understand what I got you to
Speaker 1: a person's emotions, right.
Speaker 2: I got you and listen. Zach Wilson understands what's at
Speaker 2: the helm. He understands that he has a city. He
Speaker 2: has a city riding what I'm riding with him. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure how the city feels about it. But listen,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's after him right now.
Speaker 3: With all that he needs to support. That's it, Shannon.
Speaker 3: You're not giving Zach Wilson your support. I'm telling you his.
Speaker 2: Job is gonna be a little bit easier because of
Speaker 2: a supporting cast, and he gonna be all right because
Speaker 2: that damn defense.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. They the real deal, the real deal.
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead had three interceptions. He had a two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars incentive clause in his contract. If
Speaker 1: he gets three interceptions, he gets a quarter of a meal.
Speaker 1: He's already done that the first game. Do you have
Speaker 1: a story where you have had incentives in your contract
Speaker 1: that you reached It were like, ooh, your boy just
Speaker 1: got fifty, your boy just got a hundred, or with
Speaker 1: the incentives in your contract that you like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I missed out on this money.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I had incentives in my contract. I know
Speaker 2: I did, obviously, because all contracts are incentive based at
Speaker 2: some point somewhere in the in the in the in
Speaker 2: the fine print. But I don't have a story. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna see him make one up either. But I
Speaker 2: know I did. I can't remember off the top of
Speaker 2: my head. You got to bring that question to me
Speaker 2: next time. You got to bring that question to me,
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna go do my homework.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do my homework because I know I
Speaker 3: had some some.
Speaker 1: Some after well. I think see I was a self
Speaker 1: around draft pick, so absolutely I had incentives in my contract.
Speaker 1: I had incentives if I got if I got a
Speaker 1: thousand yards, I got one hundred thousand dollars. That was
Speaker 1: a night. That's one hundred thousand dollars back then was
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean it still has a
Speaker 1: lot of money, but it was really a lot considering
Speaker 1: I was only making three hundred thousand, so hell, that
Speaker 1: was about to be a third of my So I
Speaker 1: needed one hundred and twenty one yards to get a thousand.
Speaker 1: Oh cho I had five catches for a buck sixteen
Speaker 1: to two touchdowns at the half and didn't catch another pass.
Speaker 3: They did that on purpose.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they did.
Speaker 3: Know they did that on purpose.
Speaker 2: Because I've heard the stories of running backs needing a
Speaker 2: certain number of carries, needing a certain number of yards
Speaker 2: towards the end of the season so they can hit
Speaker 2: it in the centive. Oh and the team decided to
Speaker 2: make a business decision. Yeah, I've heard the horror story.
Speaker 2: It's happened many a time.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: One of the incentives I can think about it had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with playtime. Just all I can remember
Speaker 2: off the top of my head was the all season program.
Speaker 2: The all season program.
Speaker 3: You know you ain't go to that. Hell now, austinon program.
Speaker 2: You know you get you get three in the fifty
Speaker 2: grand to attend aston program?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get ninety percent. And that's only what I
Speaker 3: can remember.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure I had something for touchdowns and catches
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I took incentive out of my contract after that
Speaker 1: point because somebody else could control it. Because the way
Speaker 1: I look at it, I feel I was the best
Speaker 1: at my position. Shouldn't I go to the Pro Bowl? Right?
Speaker 1: I don't need to be a center, should not be
Speaker 1: All Pro, should not lead the team, and catching, should
Speaker 1: not lead the team. And touchdowns I'm that dude, right right,
Speaker 1: I don't need you to incentiviize that I am. I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm who I said I was. See.
Speaker 3: I know they do play games with it though.
Speaker 2: They play games with Oh, they play games, especially when
Speaker 2: it's time to hit those incentives. Man, they they keep
Speaker 2: track of all that stuff, especially if you're running back.
Speaker 2: If you're running back, they're gonna they're gonna play with you.
Speaker 2: They gonna play with you everything.
Speaker 1: But you try to do you lobby You should be a
Speaker 1: lobbyist in DC, because boy, you lobbying hard for the
Speaker 1: running back to get their paper.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they need to, they need to. I'm not sure. Listen,
Speaker 3: the league.
Speaker 2: I understand the league is in a place now where
Speaker 2: they don't value the running back position as much as
Speaker 2: they should. But again, at some point they're they're running
Speaker 2: backs out there that are special.
Speaker 3: If you special, if you special, Sa Kwan, Alvima Kamara,
Speaker 3: CMC Derrick Henry Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I saw what I saw from DeAndre shift
Speaker 2: Knight where they ain't even use him in the past
Speaker 2: game Swift the lineup in the slots, slip Swift the
Speaker 2: lineup like Le'Veon Bell Shulde with the Steelers way out
Speaker 2: there running slants and stuff like that. They should be
Speaker 2: hitting double figures, ten, fifteen, twenty million deal contracts. Those
Speaker 2: are the type of money they should be getting when
Speaker 2: you're special.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Just the way I
Speaker 1: look at it, I don't care if you don't give
Speaker 1: me but ten dollars, but I want all my teen
Speaker 1: because I don't like that. Because here's the thing I
Speaker 1: don't like it. Now if I if I I don't perform,
Speaker 1: you released me and say you're making a business decision.
Speaker 1: I signed a contract. I performed the contract. I say
Speaker 1: I want to raise you've been with I signed the contract.
Speaker 1: What so do you think about Dad Bryant when they
Speaker 1: have they released dead? Dad had two years left. So
Speaker 1: it's like the only business that matter. And that's why
Speaker 1: I tell guys, man, don't y'all give them no discount,
Speaker 1: because not one time have you heard the NFL give
Speaker 1: these networks a discount from broadcasting live events. But they
Speaker 1: you they want a millionaire to give a billionaire a discount.
Speaker 3: Right, oh home hometown discount?
Speaker 1: Where they do that at You ain't from my hometown.
Speaker 1: I don't know not one owner from Glennville, and ain't
Speaker 1: none of them got no last name, Porter or shark
Speaker 1: r related. Man.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's a tough business.
Speaker 2: I think as fans, fans sometimes they get upset at
Speaker 2: the players for fighting for their money and the fact
Speaker 2: that the fact that we have to fight for fight,
Speaker 2: that we have to fight by money.
Speaker 3: I think you are you surprised?
Speaker 1: Are you surprised? How the how the billionaires have convinced
Speaker 1: the fans that they that the fans have more in
Speaker 1: car coming with billionaires than they do the players with
Speaker 1: your millionaires. Because here's the thing, this is what the
Speaker 1: owners know. This was a little bit before your time,
Speaker 1: but I remember it because I'm older. I'm a lot
Speaker 1: older than you. In eighty two and eighty seven, they
Speaker 1: struck and they put and I won't I won't be
Speaker 1: disrespectful to the players because some of the players ended
Speaker 1: up making rosters, but the replacement players and guess what happened.
Speaker 1: The fans showed up like they was like they was
Speaker 1: John Elway and Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. So they
Speaker 1: miss a b right and the owner says, oh so redly,
Speaker 1: So we ain't gonna do nothing. We ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: your own game he contracts, we're not gonna give you
Speaker 1: on the last time heal's benefits because we can put
Speaker 1: somebody out there and replace you guys, and the product
Speaker 1: goes on. And guess what these broadcasters and they're gonna average,
Speaker 1: they're gonna put They're gonna put it on because people
Speaker 1: love live events. Fans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wouldn't work today.
Speaker 1: Yes, it wouldn't work today, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: Why the product on the field right now?
Speaker 2: If you take let's say all fifteen sixteen hundred players
Speaker 2: say you know what, Okay, we ain't playing, and the
Speaker 2: owner said, okay, we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Get people to replace y'all. The product on the field
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be the same.
Speaker 1: It won't be saying. But guess what. The fans gonna
Speaker 1: still show up because they love football. They struck in
Speaker 1: eighty seven, they struckted eighty two, and guess what happened
Speaker 1: a lot of those players. I ain't gonna name the names,
Speaker 1: but you go back and look it up. I want
Speaker 1: you to do your homework and look it up and
Speaker 1: look at those big names that cross that picket line,
Speaker 1: and guess what happens. So if you get four or
Speaker 1: five six of those big name guys crossing what the
Speaker 1: guy that with in the fifth round of the sixth
Speaker 1: round or an undrafted free agent if you got guy
Speaker 1: that got MVP. The dp O wives come across the
Speaker 1: pigure line. What you think they gonna do? Oyo? They
Speaker 1: coming to right because them owners know see the banks say, okay, Jerry, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to push that thirty million dollar loan payment down.
Speaker 1: I got, I want to push you till next year.
Speaker 1: Go tell your bank you better give them their money
Speaker 1: or you better get up out that house in three months.
Speaker 1: And the private school that you sending your kids to,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be a public school until you
Speaker 1: make them payments.
Speaker 3: Right right, right right, And the owners know that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a dirty game, man, it is. It's a dirty
Speaker 3: game when you when you go beneath the surface and
Speaker 3: you start peeling back them layers. It's that dirty game.
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, that's why I tell the guys, don't
Speaker 1: mess your money up. You gonna this thing. You're gonna
Speaker 1: wake up one morning and it's gonna be over.
Speaker 3: It's a racket.
Speaker 1: I got every dime that Denver and the Raven was
Speaker 1: supposed to give me. They took not one dime for
Speaker 1: me for mentional meeting, being late, doing nothing. I will
Speaker 1: get all my I will every die that I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to get.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I got a question. You talk about every diamond.
Speaker 2: I'm getting off the subject of we're talking football, we're
Speaker 2: talking sports for this stuff.
Speaker 1: We talk anything, we won't just our show.
Speaker 3: Listen, I've seen you, I've seen you. Find you flying private?
Speaker 3: You know how much it costs a fly private man?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know, I know how hard you work. I know
Speaker 3: how hard. But come on, let me fly with me somewhere.
Speaker 3: Let me fly with me on spirit real quick eighteen E.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. O yo, I'm sure. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: there have been some people that passed in your family.
Speaker 1: You're going to you know, homegoing.
Speaker 3: Services Mama and grandma? Yeah, yeah, was.
Speaker 1: There a breaks truck in any part of that procession? Now?
Speaker 1: Were there a U haul in any of that procession?
Speaker 1: So she ain't nobody took nothing with them. M Now
Speaker 1: you leave everything what you think your kid is gonna
Speaker 1: do you think your kids gonna be as frugal and
Speaker 1: it's frifty and as miserly as you now you made
Speaker 1: up you made all that money. Now you that you
Speaker 1: I would hope so because Hope see that you you
Speaker 1: see what you said?
Speaker 3: You hope you said. Listen, let me tell you that's
Speaker 3: a few.
Speaker 1: That's a female's name I don't know nothing about than Hope.
Speaker 1: I went to school with a girl named Hope Perkins.
Speaker 2: Listen, Shannon, what percentage of us go broke two years
Speaker 2: after we finished planning?
Speaker 1: What percentage that's? That's if you, oh, probably like eighty
Speaker 1: seven percent.
Speaker 3: If I'm not eighty seven percent of us go broke
Speaker 3: after we're done playing.
Speaker 1: Yes, but see that's when you got you got three
Speaker 1: houses full cars, and you got both people on college funds.
Speaker 1: That's not your key. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. But even still, I
Speaker 2: got four eleven kids. I'm still doing well, very well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, very very very well, twelve eleven kids removed
Speaker 2: from the game of football.
Speaker 1: You know what I eat. I eat a certain way,
Speaker 1: but I treat myself occasionally. I'll eat some cookies, I
Speaker 1: have some chicken, I have a burger. So if I
Speaker 1: want to work as hard as I've been working, say
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go. I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: able to make the game on time, right, I promised time.
Speaker 1: When I came out here and interviewed him in December,
Speaker 1: I say, I'll be here for your first game, Yes,
Speaker 1: sir see. I don't make promises, because promises are like
Speaker 1: pot crust thing and easily broken. I make commitments. I
Speaker 1: committed to that man that I was gonna come see
Speaker 1: his first own game. Right, I'm coming. I'm coming.
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be in your personal business.
Speaker 2: I just in case, in case for me, if I
Speaker 2: want to say, I want to dibble in mustache and
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, take the kids somewhere, ravaget,
Speaker 2: you know, we go on vacation or something.
Speaker 3: What what what's that gonna run me by? How much?
Speaker 3: What's that gonna run?
Speaker 1: It all depends. It all depends on how big the
Speaker 1: jet is and how far you going.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see, I need a big one because.
Speaker 1: You know, right, so you want you want a G
Speaker 1: you want a G five, G six. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about fifteen twenty thousand hour whoa.
Speaker 2: Whoa whoaa rewind fifteen to twenty thousand an hour hour?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh nah, man, shit oh my bad, bad, No man,
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty thousand an hour.
Speaker 3: So if I got out of l A and l
Speaker 3: A is that's a father five, I say forty. I
Speaker 3: gotta pay fifty.
Speaker 1: Grand more than that, yeah, more than that problem.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come stop playing man, listen, listen. I fly.
Speaker 3: I have to do. I have to work.
Speaker 2: I have to work and fly and travel. Every Monday,
Speaker 2: I gotta go to Jersey. Right, you gotta go to Jersey.
Speaker 2: Quit right down the street.
Speaker 3: Two hour, will fly.
Speaker 2: I get Spirit Airlines ticket eighty dollars round trip. I
Speaker 2: get from point A to point B just as fast,
Speaker 2: just as quick as you.
Speaker 3: You and you you in Colord.
Speaker 1: But you know what I need?
Speaker 3: It is you get that get the extra role, You
Speaker 3: get the.
Speaker 1: You ain't had no baying. You saw your boy laying
Speaker 1: down eating breakfast and breakfast and at thirty thousand.
Speaker 3: Hey, but listen, listen. Let me tell you what I
Speaker 3: can do.
Speaker 2: I can stop at the drive through and get breakfast
Speaker 2: before I get on that flight. No, and sleep at
Speaker 2: thirty thousand, oh Joe, sleep.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not I'm not wasteful. I'm not wasting I'm
Speaker 1: not waitful with my money. O yo Okay, I got
Speaker 1: I got two repaired hips. I got two artificial hips. Wait,
Speaker 1: artificial eye suck. Yeah, I got my heal both my
Speaker 1: heills replaced.
Speaker 3: Wait one question, one question? Both your hip replaced. I
Speaker 3: messed up. Did you eat health? Did you eat healthy
Speaker 3: while you was playing?
Speaker 1: Man? Did? We're not doing.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just asking
Speaker 3: when you when when you was in the NFL, did
Speaker 3: you eat healthy while you were playing? I'm just asking
Speaker 3: a question.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it had anything to do with your
Speaker 3: h replacements. I'm just asking if you ate healthy or not.
Speaker 3: But okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I mean, so what you're what you're trying to say,
Speaker 1: what you're trying to get?
Speaker 3: I was just trying to say. I was just trying
Speaker 3: to say. I played. I played for a long time.
Speaker 3: I played.
Speaker 1: You did you didn't play long with me? You didn't
Speaker 1: play long with me?
Speaker 3: I played long. I played.
Speaker 2: I played twelve. I played twelve twelve, I played twelve
Speaker 2: with no injuries, not one. Well I'm messed up.
Speaker 3: My pinky. Look at my pinky. I can't even I
Speaker 3: can't look I play.
Speaker 1: I got fourteen for a team.
Speaker 3: But you know what, you ain't playing the trenches like
Speaker 3: I did, though.
Speaker 1: You better stop. I was a tighty year you you
Speaker 1: ever been on one special team?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: I played special teams until my fourth year of the league.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: A gunner, So was I? And I was an L
Speaker 1: three on the kickoff kick return. I was in the
Speaker 1: punt punt return.
Speaker 3: I was. I was a kicker. I was a backup kicker.
Speaker 2: What you're saying, you ain't only you ain't the only
Speaker 2: special team dude, like I do it all?
Speaker 1: Did you did you see what? Did you see what
Speaker 1: that pointer did in Buffalo? Did you see what he did? Exactly?
Speaker 1: So when you say you will you say you was
Speaker 1: a kicker. I don't play that.
Speaker 2: No, chens don't do that. Don't do that because I
Speaker 2: played safety. I played safety in high school. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that, my goodness, don't everybody played. Everybody with
Speaker 1: played both sides of the football.
Speaker 2: This is a funny thing some a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't know. This is something a lot of people don't know,
Speaker 2: and I want to share the story. Obviously, I went
Speaker 2: to Oregon State. I played with TEJ who's Mazzada as
Speaker 2: a receiver my quarterback? When Jonathan Smith, who now is
Speaker 2: the head coach of Oregon State. The funny thing is
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be a defensive back going into
Speaker 2: the draft, I was supposed to be a defensive back.
Speaker 2: I went to Oregon State play DV. Listen to me,
Speaker 2: let me finish.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: I'll lie for you before I lie to you. But
Speaker 2: I get drafted by the Bengals. I tell mister Brown,
Speaker 2: Mister Brown, I really don't want to play receiver.
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: My dream is to always be an NFL DV because
Speaker 2: I want to be like Prime. I want to be
Speaker 2: like Prime. But the DV room was too crowded. The
Speaker 2: DV room was too crowded, and they moved me to receiver.
Speaker 2: You ain't even know.
Speaker 1: That, Oh Joe, you won't hit nobody. You won't.
Speaker 3: I won't. They said the same thing about Prime.
Speaker 2: They said the same thing about Prime, and he gonna
Speaker 2: hit nobody, He's gonna hear.
Speaker 3: But one thing about it, why I locked down one
Speaker 3: side of the field. Huh?
Speaker 1: Why does everybody when they talk about they go to
Speaker 1: the highest man. I was like Prime, or I was
Speaker 1: like Lebron or I was like King Griffy. Why y'all
Speaker 1: just can't go to a marginal player.
Speaker 3: Because I'm not nothing about me marginal, nothing about me, marginal,
Speaker 3: only margin. I know it's butter. I ain't the one
Speaker 3: and I'm not the two. I'm just telling you. Look
Speaker 3: at my check my check my resume, check my status.
Speaker 3: In high school, I had, I had, I had. I
Speaker 3: had twenty two picks one year. Nobody ever done that
Speaker 3: before in South Florida, Dade County. Legend. Man, I'm from
Speaker 3: literally city.
Speaker 1: You had twenty two Fantasy picks. That's what you had.
Speaker 1: Never that, Never that, Oh Joe, you play? You were
Speaker 1: a wide receiver? You were? I had it.
Speaker 2: I was a defensive back at first. I was forced
Speaker 2: to move to wide receivers. What I'm trying to tell
Speaker 2: you I was a better.
Speaker 1: Defensive What forced you to move there is because you
Speaker 1: wouldn't hit anybody.
Speaker 2: No, that is not what It was the fact that
Speaker 2: the DV room with the Bengals it was too crowded.
Speaker 1: It was you didn't play dB at Oregon State.
Speaker 3: Yes I did. I played both waves. I w was
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter? What did you talk about?
Speaker 3: I was Dion, I did all that, man, I wint that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah Warwick. No, you were saying.
Speaker 3: Beyond who he man Hey at Liberty City listen, Liberty
Speaker 3: City Optimists. I play both ways. I play receiver, I
Speaker 3: play dB. I played quarterback and I play center.
Speaker 1: I did it all, lead it genlemen, thank you for
Speaker 1: tuning in to another episode of nightcap Unk. Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 1: He's Chad Ocho Cinko Johnson. Tune in again. We'll check
Speaker 1: you out Sunday night and Monday. Monday we got a
Speaker 1: double head of oho. But Sunday night we're back in
Speaker 1: action again. Thank you. We're out.
Speaker 3: Call me if you need me.
Speaker 1: Don't call him if you need a dB, because he
Speaker 1: can do you no good