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Speaker 1: Sportsbook with Cold Shannon is yours. Hello, Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: episode of Nightcap. I'm your co host UNC Shannon Sharp,

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Speaker 1: He's the other half co host Chad o Chosenko Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and we're back again to talk Thursday Night football. But

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Speaker 1: Eagles take down a Viking thirty. The Eagles move to

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Speaker 1: two and oh the Vikings go to zero and two.

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Speaker 1: Take it away, Oh, Jo, what was your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: from the game?

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Speaker 2: The biggest takeaway from the game was obviously it started

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Speaker 2: off really slow.

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Speaker 3: It started very slow, very methodical.

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Speaker 2: It was somewhat boring almost and really didn't really pick

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Speaker 2: up for me and make and get me excited until

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Speaker 2: after halftime. Take away the most. The Vikings gotta get going.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings have to find a way to get going.

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Speaker 2: They got to find a way to establish the run

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Speaker 2: they got. They they already got away to get justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson going moving them around, put them in different positions

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Speaker 2: to make the plays. They got to find a way

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Speaker 2: to get the running game going and find a way

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Speaker 2: to get a lead. They not playing They're not playing

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Speaker 2: well at all.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Oh Joe. Running is about is

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Speaker 1: a mentality. You can't say if you run the ball twice,

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Speaker 1: if we don't get in the yards, you can't say

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Speaker 1: the hell with the run and just start pulling it

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Speaker 1: all over the yard. And that's seemingly what Minnesota's done.

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Speaker 1: But they got to take care of the football. That's

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Speaker 1: seven turnovers in two games. In both games, they've had

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Speaker 1: at least three turnovers in the first half. That's two

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Speaker 1: and they should have had the lead at the half.

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Speaker 1: If Jefferson doesn't muff the football out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: They going into the half with the lead.

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Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous rule too. That's that's a ridiculous rule.

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Speaker 2: They need they need they need the Competition Committee in

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Speaker 2: the offseason.

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Speaker 3: They need to go they need to go out and

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Speaker 3: get rid of that rule. This ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what would you have the rule be? They get

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Speaker 1: the ball back at the two yard line.

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Speaker 2: Exactly where he loses the ball. He gets it back

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Speaker 2: right there. Just the touchback and turning the ball. That's

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Speaker 2: to come on, man, come on now.

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Speaker 1: That is ay, that's a very very harsh penalty for that.

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Speaker 3: Most definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have anybody, I don't know, if there's

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Speaker 1: a player that's lost it's close. But Kirk Cousins. You

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Speaker 1: look at his numbers, he's thirty one or forty three,

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Speaker 1: three sixty four four touchdowns. He has these these these

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Speaker 1: empty calorie games that if you didn't watch the game

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Speaker 1: and you just watched and you just look at the stats, you.

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Speaker 3: Think he went crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but he he didn't play bad. But early when

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Speaker 1: they needed him to make a few plays, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He had a bed costly turnover that led to seven points.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa that wait, wait, what's turnover? Not not the

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Speaker 3: strip side, that's the left tackle fall. That's the left

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Speaker 2: And then the commentator saying, oh, the left tackle dealing

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're didn't dealing with an.

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Speaker 1: Injury and go get the game.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he's suppoted to be out there because you just

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Speaker 3: you cost of your team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but here's the thing, this is what this is

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Speaker 1: what uh Mike Shannaher used to always tell us I coached.

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Speaker 1: He says, Look, don't exacerbate the situation. Okay, the left

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Speaker 3: That's the blind side. Now, that's the blind side. Kirk

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Speaker 3: can't even Kirk can't even see buddy coming.

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Speaker 1: Now, I understand that, but sometimes you gotta be up.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to hold onto the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand it's the blind side, But don't make a

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Speaker 1: ball over the Vikings defense, that's terrible. Why you let Okay,

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Speaker 1: we get the ball back. All we got to do

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Speaker 1: is stop promote, Joe. We stopping were gonna get the

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Speaker 1: and they run the ball down your throats.

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Speaker 3: Listen. The most embarrassing thing for any NFL team to

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what Deandres Swift and that almost the Lade

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Speaker 2: did for the Eagles to night.

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Speaker 3: It was ridiculous. Swift finished with.

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Speaker 1: What five carries? They had forty eight rushers for two

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Speaker 1: fifty nine five point four carry uh three touchdown. You

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Speaker 1: you're moving a man against his will. Let that stick

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Speaker 1: in for people at home. You're moving the man against

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Speaker 1: his will. He said, I'm saying you're finn move from this.

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Speaker 1: At first he said no, I ain't. And I say that,

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Speaker 1: you say you can here and Lane Johnson and Chelsea

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Speaker 3: Why not make the adjustments? Why not make the adjustments defensively?

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Speaker 2: If the running game for the Eagles is doing extremely well,

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Speaker 2: Brian Flores, why not putting nine in the box.

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Speaker 3: Why not take Harrison Harrison, bring him that and bring

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Speaker 3: him down? They had.

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Speaker 1: They needed to bring John Randall back, restless Little Dorman,

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Speaker 1: they needed Chris Millar, they needed the Purple People eaters,

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Speaker 1: they needed all of them to stop. You know, okay,

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Speaker 1: we getting what we call a four minute offense because

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Speaker 1: basically we got a lot of too tight end. We're

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Speaker 1: just gonna try to run the football. You know what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We know you know what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: And you still can't still can't stop it.

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Speaker 1: That's unacceptable, that's unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: That's three myself, not in a whole. Now you're owing two.

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Speaker 1: You're owing two. So that's the thing about being over

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Speaker 1: because you gotta you can think about it now just

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Speaker 1: an oh a quarter of seasons go. Yeah, you put

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Speaker 1: yourself behind the eight ball so much when you start

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Speaker 1: the season like they started. But what do you expect.

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Speaker 1: Do you expect to play in the NFL turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over six times in two games before the half

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Speaker 1: and win and they ain't had an opportunity to win.

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Speaker 2: Listen, there are very few teams in the NFL back

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Speaker 2: in turn the boat ball over and still come back

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Speaker 2: and actually win a game. You can't turn the ball

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Speaker 2: over and expect to win unless your offense is an

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Speaker 2: extreme juggernaut and it ain't too many off of the

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Speaker 2: team that's out there like that, especially when you turn

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Speaker 2: them all over and the other team gets points off

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Speaker 2: those turnoffs.

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Speaker 1: Well, first and second of all, you can't turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over like that if you're d fit crap. You

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Speaker 1: give up two hundred and sixty yards on the ground.

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Speaker 1: You can't stop them because they're scoring on their possessions.

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Speaker 1: You turn it over. Put them on a short field

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Speaker 1: if you can't when you kicked. You can't stop them

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Speaker 1: when you kick the ball off and they got to

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Speaker 1: go seventy five yards for a touchdown, How the hell

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Speaker 1: you expect to stop them if you turn it over

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Speaker 1: there on, we got to go twenty yards, right.

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Speaker 2: You got to make your job easy as possible. You

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Speaker 2: got to make your job easy as possible. They're not

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Speaker 2: they're not doing that. They're not doing that at all.

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Speaker 1: So if you're the head coach of the Vikings, what's

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Speaker 1: your speech? What's your speech at the in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: We put ourselves in the whole, gentlemen, we put ourselves

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Speaker 2: in the hole, and we gotta find a way to

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Speaker 2: dig it out.

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Speaker 3: It's obviously a start with practice defense. You got to

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Speaker 3: learn how to You got to learn how to tackle them.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously I don't want I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Florees is a defensive coordinator. He called in the defensive plays,

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Speaker 3: but red regardless of what the exit and O is

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Speaker 3: it called. The players got to excu you got the execue.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't put it on the coach. If this is

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Speaker 3: what he wants to run, we need to be able.

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Speaker 3: We need to be able to stop and run whatever

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Speaker 3: he's calling to the best of our ability.

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Speaker 2: If you know the run is coming, you got to tackle,

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Speaker 2: You got to wrap up. Ain't no reason. Deandresis forty

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Speaker 2: running six yards of carry and this mad Madden? That

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Speaker 2: this on Madden. You run for six yards of carry?

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Speaker 1: They run and dive. Oh your hair is the thing

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Speaker 1: when you look at it like this, what ski what

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Speaker 1: I call they running the football? I know they're gonna run.

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Speaker 1: You know they're gonna run. Everybody in the stadium knows

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run the football. What the hell can I call?

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Speaker 1: Get up your block, defeat the man, get it on

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Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah yeah, I mean it's not like the past. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they man, You see what they doing. They get into

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Speaker 1: the bunch formation. They're doing a lot of motion. We

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Speaker 1: can if the past game, I get it. But when

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Speaker 2: Nothing nothing pretty, nothing pretty. There was nothing pretty, nothing exotic.

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Speaker 2: Hand the ball off. They tried to get aj Aj.

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Speaker 3: Brown the ball.

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Speaker 2: They wasn't able to get him going. Obviously, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have games like that.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that. We're gonna talk. There was a

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Speaker 1: heated discussion between aj and Jalen Hurst on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Take it that cause you've been in those situations your receiver.

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Speaker 1: You want the ball, and you want the ball early

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Speaker 1: because you want to be a part of the game.

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Speaker 1: If you give Ojo the ball early, you'll have him late. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the frustration started the bill because I got two three catches.

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Speaker 3: Listen, not only that, do you have two or three catches?

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Speaker 2: But Devontae Smith is on the other side going off,

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Speaker 2: He go and slap you know what, off and so

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Speaker 2: A J. Brown is in here, I'm getting a slant

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Speaker 2: or I'm catching a hitch, or I'm in the slot

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Speaker 2: and I'm running a little stick route and I look up,

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Speaker 2: I got three for I got three for thirty and

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Speaker 2: Davonte Smith got.

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Speaker 3: Four for one hundred and fifty. Hey that ain't that?

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Speaker 1: Don't got four for thirty one? Tube?

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, don't that don't sit right with me? That

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Speaker 2: And at times I understand how I understand how Aja feels.

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Speaker 2: I understand, but it's gonna be games like that. Every

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Speaker 2: be like now, what's gonna happen. What's probably gonna happen

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Speaker 1: Right that he has to take that as a sign

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Speaker 3: But one, one thing, one thing, this is what I hate.

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Speaker 2: Off of the coordinators allow defensive teams to dictate what

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Speaker 3: I hate that Justin Jefferson had eleven for one fifty

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Speaker 2: The creativity from the office of the coordinator to move

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Speaker 1: But Ojo, when you run for two, you not finnh

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Speaker 1: throw for three hundred and run for two sixty this

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Speaker 3: I mean, it can happen if you want to if

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Speaker 1: I bet you there hadn't been more than I bet

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Speaker 1: There haven't been a two hundred yard rush game and

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I care.

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Speaker 1: Do you think about how many carries you have to

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Speaker 3: Again, this is college.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Swift had what one seventy five a night on twenty.

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Speaker 1: What're you gonna do with that? Hey, when you running

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Speaker 3: Gonna throw it to the ball.

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Speaker 2: But you know again, but this is what I don't like,

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Speaker 2: Don't abandon me out there.

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Speaker 3: Allow me to still feel part of the game plan

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Speaker 2: And that was probably part of the frustration that AJ

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Speaker 3: I call it garbage time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he'll be calories, move him.

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Speaker 3: Move him around, put him in positions to make plays.

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Speaker 3: Do that. You're saying what they do with Justin Jefferson?

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Speaker 1: I know Seed, you know what I'm hearing you say.

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Speaker 1: I ain't never heard no receiver. I ain't never heard

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Speaker 1: get that ball to Corey. Let Corey feel some love.

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Speaker 1: Why y'all want to whoa woa, whoa whoa, whoa whoa?

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Speaker 1: You ever said that? Have you ever said actually when

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Speaker 1: you had that too, when you had that two hundred

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you that, let me give you let

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Speaker 2: in our day when we played, we was in the

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Speaker 2: you forgetting remember the era.

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Speaker 3: I played in Jamal Lewis, Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon.

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Speaker 2: We ran the ball first and how were we able

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I was established well before you.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa whoa. No, you wasn't when you came in

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about, man?

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Speaker 1: You ain't came in no league in no ninety three.

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Speaker 1: You came to the NFL in ninety three.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Stop it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I was born in sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: Don't do me like whatver whatever. But anyway, as I

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Speaker 3: This is but I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: But this is what you don't understand is the fact

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Speaker 3: Game to open us up. It wasn't. Now it's the

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Speaker 1: Now, how do you get damaged running game? How your

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Speaker 1: When where? How?

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Speaker 2: Because they had to drop they had to drop a

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Speaker 2: Cedric Benson was going crazy. Oh, Corey Diller was going crazy.

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Speaker 2: Drop that man in the box. We're gonna kill you

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Speaker 1: So what so, how would you how would you grade

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad. That bad. That was a bad interception.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, But I give him a beat. I

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Speaker 2: You're gonna make mistakes. You're gonna make mistakes. You know,

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Speaker 3: Down the road.

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Speaker 1: Right, let's let's jump here. I'm actually in Colorado nine

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Speaker 1: I said, when you when I talked the grown ups,

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Speaker 2: What does that have to do with the game they

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Why why would you give Dion his players that coaching.

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Speaker 2: Staff bulletin board material and make things personal. You just

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Speaker 2: Why not why not praise Dion? Why do not I say,

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Speaker 3: That is amazing. What he's been able to do is

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Speaker 2: It's been great. Dion has been Dion since day one.

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Speaker 2: Have we not watched him in the NFL? Have we

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Speaker 2: That is what I love about the most. He has

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Speaker 3: Well and never know what to him?

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Speaker 1: You know what it is, Ojo. I believe there are coaches

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Speaker 1: Alabama might not work for Dabble at Clemsond, or it

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Speaker 1: But why are you concerned? What is him taking his

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Speaker 3: But why please help me, help me understand why it

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Speaker 2: Is that and understanding how difficult it is for black

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Speaker 1: Get powered five jobs, absolute yes, and.

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Speaker 2: Being in positions of power to lead men. But to

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Speaker 1: That's your interview. You should do however you want to.

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Speaker 3: What what did we talk about?

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he have a cover and a

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Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with how I do business.

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Speaker 1: Over here. I don't concern myself with you, but you

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I always learn is every

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Speaker 1: If I was coached prying with knowing, knowing prime the

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Speaker 1: I would, I would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can't, you can't. You can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that. Coaches have a coaches have a pack,

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Speaker 1: him to take a shot at time. There was no

442
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 1: need for him to take a shot at time, none.

443
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 3: No purpose, maybe did no purpose for his team for

444
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: the sake of his team.

445
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to score one hundred.

446
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: Get get fired up, Okay, I think, yeah, I would

447
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 3: do it on purpose. Yeah, I got you, I got you.

448
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: I hadn't talked to you Monday night. Aaron Rodgers goes

449
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: down four plays into his jet tenure, and a lot

450
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: has been said. You know, the turf, and and and

451
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: and and what have you. When you when he first

452
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: went down, what were your initial thoughts?

453
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: I knew what it was based on his mannerisms, his

454
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: body language. And then when you get and tackle the

455
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 2: first time your foot went in the ground, Let your

456
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: body go, Let your body go, limp, just fall, just relaxing.

457
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: Why you fight that?

458
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: You turn around and turn around again and still fighting

459
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: as if you try to get up out of there

460
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 2: for what you got?

461
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: All that pressure pulling you down. And as soon as that,

462
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 3: soon as the inflection, it's still popping. It got somebody

463
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 3: to get weighed.

464
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 2: Let your body go and go limp man, Aaron, you've

465
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: been playing football for nineteen years, you know.

466
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 3: Previously.

467
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: I think maybe it was a play before, or maybe

468
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: two plays prior. He was able to spin out of

469
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: that the same way God came off edge. He's fun

470
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 2: out of it. This time, it didn't work. You know,

471
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: he got you just fall down, let it go.

472
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Speaker 1: But you live to play another play oh Jo. But

473
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: you know on a three step drop, you know bot

474
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: tackles are trying to get the guy hands down because

475
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: the ball is gonna come out quick. You know, you

476
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: cannot whatever side you pick on the three step drop,

477
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: you gotta stay that side you can't get. Because he

478
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: started to come back and then try to go backside,

479
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: you can you can't. You can't do that. So once

480
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: he went right and they're covered more the way, I

481
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: feel bad. I feel bad for him for the simple

482
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: fact that there was so much anticipation he had seen

483
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: to have found new life. He wanted to be somewhere.

484
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: And I tell people this all the time. My grandma

485
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: used to always say, the loneliest place in the world

486
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: is to be somewhere you're not wanted. He knew that

487
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't wanted in Green Bay, and so now he

488
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: had found the home. They had welcomed him with open arms.

489
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: He had the kind of cachet that he's always wanted

490
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. They had given him that in New

491
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: York and then four plays in it's over. That's it.

492
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: That's a hard injury to overcome too, Ojo, especially at.

493
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Speaker 3: Nine thirty nine four.

494
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right he about to be party.

495
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but listen that that injury with technology

496
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: would rehab and the things that they can do now

497
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 2: these days.

498
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: He'll be back in six months.

499
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: And based on his Instagram post, he's letting the city

500
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: of New York and the New York Jets know that

501
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: he will be back next year.

502
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 3: But I'm not even I'm not fred I'm not even

503
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 3: a friend. You know why?

504
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: Because I believe in Zach Wilson. I believe, and I

505
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: like Zach Wilson. I love Zach Wilson. I love him

506
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: to death. And matter of fact, you do, you do?

507
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: You know why Aaron Rodgers in New York? Tell me

508
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: why Aaron Rodgers was in New York?

509
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: Can I can I say some police? Can I say something?

510
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Please?

511
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson.

512
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: Let Zack Wilson had expectations come out of b YU right, as.

513
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: Did the New York Jets. As did the New York Jets.

514
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: Things didn't go the way he would want to. They didn't.

515
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: You know how tough it is to go from b

516
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: YU and dealing with the New York Media.

517
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: Of all outlet. You got to deal with the pressure.

518
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: One thing my grandma always said, you surround yourself by

519
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: certain individuals.

520
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: At some point you become one of them.

521
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: How long how long has Zach Wilson been around Aaron Rodgers?

522
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: How many months? About O T A so you're talking

523
00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: about Okay, so.

524
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 2: He's been he's been riding for a little bit. I

525
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: think enough is rubbed off on Zach Wilson, on Zack

526
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: Wilson on how how to prepare, how to prepare, how

527
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: to play the game at quarterback, how to be a

528
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: better leader, just little nuances that we the public, the outside.

529
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: Fans don't know about.

530
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's gonna be a much better quarterback than

531
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: he was before because of him being by Aaron Rodgers.

532
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: I know, I know, tell you I know so, and

533
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: you gonna see it when they play.

534
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: Dallas bro bro Last year they were wearing the backup.

535
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: You remember what happened in Philly. They started They built

536
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: a monument to Nick Foles. Carson Winz was the starter.

537
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: He had to see on his jersey. They built a montage,

538
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: they built a shrine. They was wearing the backup quarterbacks Jersey. Oh, Joe,

539
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: you trying to tell me all of a sudden, they

540
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: believe in you.

541
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: Listen, sometimes all the tape, sometimes all the take is

542
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 2: surrounding yourself for the right person. I'm telling you, you

543
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: think you think Zach don't feel bad about how things

544
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: went last year. His expectations are higher than all of ours.

545
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: He wanted to come in and be the best he can.

546
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: It didn't happen, But I guarantee you. I guarantee you,

547
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, prove everybody wrong. I guarantee you that, and

548
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: start with the Cowboys on Sunday.

549
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: I would ask you this, do you think the expect

550
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: expectations for the Jets were hired last year or this year?

551
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: Oh?

552
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: They were hired this year obviously because Aaron Rodgerson and

553
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: they got a number they got, They got a top

554
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: five defense.

555
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: Now think about what you just said. Do you do

556
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: you know the number one cause of a relationship ending

557
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: if uncommunicated expectations. He wants to go somewhere, But she

558
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: didn't tell you uncommunicating. She has expectations, but she didn't

559
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: communicate with that way that he wanted to do this.

560
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: You didn't know, she didn't communicate that you wanted to

561
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: do this, but you didn't tell her. Okay, now we

562
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: got expectations. That's been communicated, right, How do you think

563
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that pressure the first time? The first

564
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: time he go out there and he have one of

565
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: them Joe Joe Burrow. And I'm not saying I'm saying,

566
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: have one of those Joe Burrow games. We throw for

567
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: eighty two yards and the defense balling out and they

568
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: lose seven to three.

569
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: Then he just throw a interception the other night and

570
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 2: he came right back and did what. He threw an interception,

571
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: and he came right back and did what he answered.

572
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: Are you yes, sir? That met you? I just one

573
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: of them. One thing? How many times you thank the

574
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: quarterback for the opposing team. Because Joshalla was the best

575
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: player on the Jets, he happen to play for Buffalo.

576
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: Listen, we can't Okay, We're gonna we can't. Josh Allen

577
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: lost the game. Is that that's what we're gonna use. That's

578
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: that's a part of football. That's a part of football.

579
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: We can we can go through. We can go through

580
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: every game on the on the one o'clock slate. This

581
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: this coming Sunday and we can find well, you know

582
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: why they lost. They lost because of so and so

583
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: did it. That's a part of the game. That's a

584
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: part of the game.

585
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: The differences between Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady

586
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: in a paper.

587
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: They throw interceptions.

588
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: You expected to win. Now you've got Zach Wilson. You

589
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: hope to win well if the defense, if the defense

590
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: plays lights out, if we don't turn the ball over

591
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: and an eagle land on the flag pole at twelve

592
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: ten pm, we got a great chance to win it.

593
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: There is no expect there's no I expect to win.

594
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: There's all hope to win.

595
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: Listen, like Chetick Danny Tanna said, I wish a motherfucker

596
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: you know what a quarterback. A quarterback is only good

597
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: as his supporting cast. You got Lizard, you got Cobb,

598
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 2: you got probably top five right now in the league

599
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: of young receivers up and coming.

600
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: And Garrett Wilson you got a top five DP, you

601
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: got a top five defense.

602
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: All Zach Wilson has to do is facilitate and don't

603
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: make mistakes.

604
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: If he could do that, I hope you're right, because

605
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: there are a lot of hope and anticipation and expectations. Man,

606
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: do you know what what disappoints the person the most

607
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: is when you have expectations. I met the woman of

608
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: my dreams and she not what I thought she was.

609
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I had expectations. I saw us with a

610
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: piget fence and two point five kids and two cards expected. Yes,

611
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: two and a half kids.

612
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, that's.

613
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: What I would expecting. I got these expectations and she

614
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: wasn't what I thought she was.

615
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: Do you know how bad that hurt?

616
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we both before you got married, we both

617
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: been in situation. You didn't care what she did, and

618
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: she didn't care what you did. And when she found

619
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: somebody else, you didn't give a d. But when you

620
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: loved that person, you invest the time, you invested energy,

621
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: and she did what she did. It hurt. So now

622
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: there's the expectation and we talk, it's gonna hurt.

623
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Oh, And you took me back. You took

624
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: me back.

625
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: I want to I didn't want to go there, but

626
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: I want you to understand what I got you to

627
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: a person's emotions, right.

628
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: I got you and listen. Zach Wilson understands what's at

629
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: the helm. He understands that he has a city. He

630
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: has a city riding what I'm riding with him. I'm

631
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: not sure how the city feels about it. But listen,

632
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's after him right now.

633
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: With all that he needs to support. That's it, Shannon.

634
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: You're not giving Zach Wilson your support. I'm telling you his.

635
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: Job is gonna be a little bit easier because of

636
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: a supporting cast, and he gonna be all right because

637
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: that damn defense.

638
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. They the real deal, the real deal.

639
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Whitehead had three interceptions. He had a two hundred

640
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars incentive clause in his contract. If

641
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: he gets three interceptions, he gets a quarter of a meal.

642
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: He's already done that the first game. Do you have

643
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: a story where you have had incentives in your contract

644
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: that you reached It were like, ooh, your boy just

645
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: got fifty, your boy just got a hundred, or with

646
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the incentives in your contract that you like, I mean,

647
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: I missed out on this money.

648
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure I had incentives in my contract. I know

649
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: I did, obviously, because all contracts are incentive based at

650
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: some point somewhere in the in the in the in

651
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: the fine print. But I don't have a story. I'm

652
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: not gonna see him make one up either. But I

653
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: know I did. I can't remember off the top of

654
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: my head. You got to bring that question to me

655
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: next time. You got to bring that question to me,

656
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna go do my homework.

657
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do my homework because I know I

658
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: had some some.

659
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Speaker 1: Some after well. I think see I was a self

660
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: around draft pick, so absolutely I had incentives in my contract.

661
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I had incentives if I got if I got a

662
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: thousand yards, I got one hundred thousand dollars. That was

663
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: a night. That's one hundred thousand dollars back then was

664
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean it still has a

665
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: lot of money, but it was really a lot considering

666
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I was only making three hundred thousand, so hell, that

667
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: was about to be a third of my So I

668
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: needed one hundred and twenty one yards to get a thousand.

669
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh cho I had five catches for a buck sixteen

670
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: to two touchdowns at the half and didn't catch another pass.

671
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: They did that on purpose.

672
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what they did.

673
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: Know they did that on purpose.

674
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: Because I've heard the stories of running backs needing a

675
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: certain number of carries, needing a certain number of yards

676
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: towards the end of the season so they can hit

677
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: it in the centive. Oh and the team decided to

678
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: make a business decision. Yeah, I've heard the horror story.

679
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: It's happened many a time.

680
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: Now.

681
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: One of the incentives I can think about it had

682
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: nothing to do with playtime. Just all I can remember

683
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: off the top of my head was the all season program.

684
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: The all season program.

685
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: You know you ain't go to that. Hell now, austinon program.

686
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: You know you get you get three in the fifty

687
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: grand to attend aston program?

688
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get ninety percent. And that's only what I

689
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: can remember.

690
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: But I'm sure I had something for touchdowns and catches

691
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

692
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: But I took incentive out of my contract after that

693
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: point because somebody else could control it. Because the way

694
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I look at it, I feel I was the best

695
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: at my position. Shouldn't I go to the Pro Bowl? Right?

696
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't need to be a center, should not be

697
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: All Pro, should not lead the team, and catching, should

698
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: not lead the team. And touchdowns I'm that dude, right right,

699
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't need you to incentiviize that I am. I'm here,

700
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm who I said I was. See.

701
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: I know they do play games with it though.

702
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: They play games with Oh, they play games, especially when

703
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: it's time to hit those incentives. Man, they they keep

704
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: track of all that stuff, especially if you're running back.

705
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: If you're running back, they're gonna they're gonna play with you.

706
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: They gonna play with you everything.

707
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: But you try to do you lobby You should be a

708
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: lobbyist in DC, because boy, you lobbying hard for the

709
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: running back to get their paper.

710
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they need to, they need to. I'm not sure. Listen,

711
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: the league.

712
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: I understand the league is in a place now where

713
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: they don't value the running back position as much as

714
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: they should. But again, at some point they're they're running

715
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: backs out there that are special.

716
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: If you special, if you special, Sa Kwan, Alvima Kamara,

717
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: CMC Derrick Henry Nick Chubb.

718
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I saw what I saw from DeAndre shift

719
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: Knight where they ain't even use him in the past

720
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: game Swift the lineup in the slots, slip Swift the

721
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: lineup like Le'Veon Bell Shulde with the Steelers way out

722
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: there running slants and stuff like that. They should be

723
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: hitting double figures, ten, fifteen, twenty million deal contracts. Those

724
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: are the type of money they should be getting when

725
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: you're special.

726
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Just the way I

727
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: look at it, I don't care if you don't give

728
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: me but ten dollars, but I want all my teen

729
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: because I don't like that. Because here's the thing I

730
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: don't like it. Now if I if I I don't perform,

731
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: you released me and say you're making a business decision.

732
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: I signed a contract. I performed the contract. I say

733
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: I want to raise you've been with I signed the contract.

734
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: What so do you think about Dad Bryant when they

735
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: have they released dead? Dad had two years left. So

736
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: it's like the only business that matter. And that's why

737
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: I tell guys, man, don't y'all give them no discount,

738
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: because not one time have you heard the NFL give

739
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: these networks a discount from broadcasting live events. But they

740
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: you they want a millionaire to give a billionaire a discount.

741
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: Right, oh home hometown discount?

742
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: Where they do that at You ain't from my hometown.

743
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know not one owner from Glennville, and ain't

744
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: none of them got no last name, Porter or shark

745
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: r related. Man.

746
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's a tough business.

747
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: I think as fans, fans sometimes they get upset at

748
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: the players for fighting for their money and the fact

749
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: that the fact that we have to fight for fight,

750
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: that we have to fight by money.

751
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: I think you are you surprised?

752
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: Are you surprised? How the how the billionaires have convinced

753
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: the fans that they that the fans have more in

754
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: car coming with billionaires than they do the players with

755
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: your millionaires. Because here's the thing, this is what the

756
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: owners know. This was a little bit before your time,

757
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: but I remember it because I'm older. I'm a lot

758
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: older than you. In eighty two and eighty seven, they

759
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: struck and they put and I won't I won't be

760
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: disrespectful to the players because some of the players ended

761
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: up making rosters, but the replacement players and guess what happened.

762
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: The fans showed up like they was like they was

763
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: John Elway and Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. So they

764
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: miss a b right and the owner says, oh so redly,

765
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: So we ain't gonna do nothing. We ain't gonna get

766
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: your own game he contracts, we're not gonna give you

767
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: on the last time heal's benefits because we can put

768
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: somebody out there and replace you guys, and the product

769
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: goes on. And guess what these broadcasters and they're gonna average,

770
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna put They're gonna put it on because people

771
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: love live events. Fans.

772
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wouldn't work today.

773
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: Yes, it wouldn't work today, Oh Joe.

774
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: Why the product on the field right now?

775
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: If you take let's say all fifteen sixteen hundred players

776
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: say you know what, Okay, we ain't playing, and the

777
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: owner said, okay, we're gonna.

778
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: Get people to replace y'all. The product on the field

779
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be the same.

780
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: It won't be saying. But guess what. The fans gonna

781
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: still show up because they love football. They struck in

782
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: eighty seven, they struckted eighty two, and guess what happened

783
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot of those players. I ain't gonna name the names,

784
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: but you go back and look it up. I want

785
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: you to do your homework and look it up and

786
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: look at those big names that cross that picket line,

787
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: and guess what happens. So if you get four or

788
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: five six of those big name guys crossing what the

789
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: guy that with in the fifth round of the sixth

790
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: round or an undrafted free agent if you got guy

791
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: that got MVP. The dp O wives come across the

792
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: pigure line. What you think they gonna do? Oyo? They

793
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: coming to right because them owners know see the banks say, okay, Jerry, hey,

794
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: I want to push that thirty million dollar loan payment down.

795
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I got, I want to push you till next year.

796
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Go tell your bank you better give them their money

797
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: or you better get up out that house in three months.

798
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: And the private school that you sending your kids to,

799
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be a public school until you

800
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: make them payments.

801
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: Right right, right right, And the owners know that. Yeah,

802
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: it's a dirty game, man, it is. It's a dirty

803
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: game when you when you go beneath the surface and

804
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: you start peeling back them layers. It's that dirty game.

805
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, that's why I tell the guys, don't

806
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: mess your money up. You gonna this thing. You're gonna

807
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: wake up one morning and it's gonna be over.

808
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: It's a racket.

809
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: I got every dime that Denver and the Raven was

810
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: supposed to give me. They took not one dime for

811
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: me for mentional meeting, being late, doing nothing. I will

812
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: get all my I will every die that I'm supposed

813
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: to get.

814
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: I like that.

815
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I like that.

816
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: Well, I got a question. You talk about every diamond.

817
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm getting off the subject of we're talking football, we're

818
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: talking sports for this stuff.

819
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: We talk anything, we won't just our show.

820
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: Listen, I've seen you, I've seen you. Find you flying private?

821
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: You know how much it costs a fly private man?

822
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you know? Yeah?

823
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: I know, I know how hard you work. I know

824
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: how hard. But come on, let me fly with me somewhere.

825
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: Let me fly with me on spirit real quick eighteen E.

826
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. O yo, I'm sure. Unfortunately,

827
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: there have been some people that passed in your family.

828
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: You're going to you know, homegoing.

829
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Services Mama and grandma? Yeah, yeah, was.

830
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: There a breaks truck in any part of that procession? Now?

831
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: Were there a U haul in any of that procession?

832
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: So she ain't nobody took nothing with them. M Now

833
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: you leave everything what you think your kid is gonna

834
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: do you think your kids gonna be as frugal and

835
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: it's frifty and as miserly as you now you made

836
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: up you made all that money. Now you that you

837
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: I would hope so because Hope see that you you

838
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: see what you said?

839
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: You hope you said. Listen, let me tell you that's

840
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: a few.

841
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: That's a female's name I don't know nothing about than Hope.

842
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: I went to school with a girl named Hope Perkins.

843
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: Listen, Shannon, what percentage of us go broke two years

844
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: after we finished planning?

845
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: What percentage that's? That's if you, oh, probably like eighty

846
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: seven percent.

847
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: If I'm not eighty seven percent of us go broke

848
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: after we're done playing.

849
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: Yes, but see that's when you got you got three

850
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: houses full cars, and you got both people on college funds.

851
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: That's not your key. You know what I'm talking about.

852
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. But even still, I

853
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: got four eleven kids. I'm still doing well, very well. Yeah,

854
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: for sure, very very very well, twelve eleven kids removed

855
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: from the game of football.

856
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: You know what I eat. I eat a certain way,

857
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: but I treat myself occasionally. I'll eat some cookies, I

858
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: have some chicken, I have a burger. So if I

859
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: want to work as hard as I've been working, say

860
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go. I wasn't gonna be

861
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: able to make the game on time, right, I promised time.

862
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: When I came out here and interviewed him in December,

863
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: I say, I'll be here for your first game, Yes,

864
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: sir see. I don't make promises, because promises are like

865
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: pot crust thing and easily broken. I make commitments. I

866
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: committed to that man that I was gonna come see

867
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: his first own game. Right, I'm coming. I'm coming.

868
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be in your personal business.

869
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: I just in case, in case for me, if I

870
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: want to say, I want to dibble in mustache and

871
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, take the kids somewhere, ravaget,

872
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: you know, we go on vacation or something.

873
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: What what what's that gonna run me by? How much?

874
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: What's that gonna run?

875
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: It all depends. It all depends on how big the

876
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: jet is and how far you going.

877
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see, I need a big one because.

878
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, right, so you want you want a G

879
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: you want a G five, G six. So you're talking

880
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: about fifteen twenty thousand hour whoa.

881
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: Whoa whoaa rewind fifteen to twenty thousand an hour hour?

882
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

883
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh nah, man, shit oh my bad, bad, No man,

884
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty thousand an hour.

885
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: So if I got out of l A and l

886
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: A is that's a father five, I say forty. I

887
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: gotta pay fifty.

888
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: Grand more than that, yeah, more than that problem.

889
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come stop playing man, listen, listen. I fly.

890
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: I have to do. I have to work.

891
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: I have to work and fly and travel. Every Monday,

892
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: I gotta go to Jersey. Right, you gotta go to Jersey.

893
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: Quit right down the street.

894
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: Two hour, will fly.

895
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: I get Spirit Airlines ticket eighty dollars round trip. I

896
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: get from point A to point B just as fast,

897
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: just as quick as you.

898
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 3: You and you you in Colord.

899
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: But you know what I need?

900
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: It is you get that get the extra role, You

901
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: get the.

902
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: You ain't had no baying. You saw your boy laying

903
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: down eating breakfast and breakfast and at thirty thousand.

904
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: Hey, but listen, listen. Let me tell you what I

905
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: can do.

906
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: I can stop at the drive through and get breakfast

907
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: before I get on that flight. No, and sleep at

908
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: thirty thousand, oh Joe, sleep.

909
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not I'm not wasteful. I'm not wasting I'm

910
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: not waitful with my money. O yo Okay, I got

911
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I got two repaired hips. I got two artificial hips. Wait,

912
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: artificial eye suck. Yeah, I got my heal both my

913
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: heills replaced.

914
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: Wait one question, one question? Both your hip replaced. I

915
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: messed up. Did you eat health? Did you eat healthy

916
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: while you was playing?

917
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Man? Did? We're not doing.

918
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just I'm just asking. I'm just asking

919
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: when you when when you was in the NFL, did

920
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: you eat healthy while you were playing? I'm just asking

921
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: a question.

922
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, all right, all right.

923
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it had anything to do with your

924
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: h replacements. I'm just asking if you ate healthy or not.

925
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: But okay, go ahead.

926
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean, so what you're what you're trying to say,

927
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: what you're trying to get?

928
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: I was just trying to say. I was just trying

929
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: to say. I played. I played for a long time.

930
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: I played.

931
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: You did you didn't play long with me? You didn't

932
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: play long with me?

933
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: I played long. I played.

934
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: I played twelve. I played twelve twelve, I played twelve

935
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: with no injuries, not one. Well I'm messed up.

936
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: My pinky. Look at my pinky. I can't even I

937
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: can't look I play.

938
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: I got fourteen for a team.

939
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: But you know what, you ain't playing the trenches like

940
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: I did, though.

941
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: You better stop. I was a tighty year you you

942
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: ever been on one special team?

943
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: Who?

944
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: I played special teams until my fourth year of the league.

945
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: What you're talking about?

946
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: I was.

947
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: A gunner, So was I? And I was an L

948
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: three on the kickoff kick return. I was in the

949
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: punt punt return.

950
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 3: I was. I was a kicker. I was a backup kicker.

951
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: What you're saying, you ain't only you ain't the only

952
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: special team dude, like I do it all?

953
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Did you did you see what? Did you see what

954
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: that pointer did in Buffalo? Did you see what he did? Exactly?

955
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: So when you say you will you say you was

956
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: a kicker. I don't play that.

957
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: No, chens don't do that. Don't do that because I

958
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: played safety. I played safety in high school. Don't do that.

959
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Don't do that, my goodness, don't everybody played. Everybody with

960
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: played both sides of the football.

961
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: This is a funny thing some a lot of people

962
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: don't know. This is something a lot of people don't know,

963
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: and I want to share the story. Obviously, I went

964
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: to Oregon State. I played with TEJ who's Mazzada as

965
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: a receiver my quarterback? When Jonathan Smith, who now is

966
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: the head coach of Oregon State. The funny thing is

967
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be a defensive back going into

968
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: the draft, I was supposed to be a defensive back.

969
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: I went to Oregon State play DV. Listen to me,

970
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: let me finish.

971
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: Listen.

972
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: I'll lie for you before I lie to you. But

973
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I get drafted by the Bengals. I tell mister Brown,

974
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: Mister Brown, I really don't want to play receiver.

975
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: I want.

976
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: My dream is to always be an NFL DV because

977
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: I want to be like Prime. I want to be

978
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: like Prime. But the DV room was too crowded. The

979
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 2: DV room was too crowded, and they moved me to receiver.

980
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: You ain't even know.

981
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: That, Oh Joe, you won't hit nobody. You won't.

982
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: I won't. They said the same thing about Prime.

983
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: They said the same thing about Prime, and he gonna

984
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: hit nobody, He's gonna hear.

985
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: But one thing about it, why I locked down one

986
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: side of the field. Huh?

987
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: Why does everybody when they talk about they go to

988
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the highest man. I was like Prime, or I was

989
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: like Lebron or I was like King Griffy. Why y'all

990
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: just can't go to a marginal player.

991
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: Because I'm not nothing about me marginal, nothing about me, marginal,

992
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: only margin. I know it's butter. I ain't the one

993
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: and I'm not the two. I'm just telling you. Look

994
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: at my check my check my resume, check my status.

995
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: In high school, I had, I had, I had. I

996
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: had twenty two picks one year. Nobody ever done that

997
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: before in South Florida, Dade County. Legend. Man, I'm from

998
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: literally city.

999
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: You had twenty two Fantasy picks. That's what you had.

1000
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Never that, Never that, Oh Joe, you play? You were

1001
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: a wide receiver? You were? I had it.

1002
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: I was a defensive back at first. I was forced

1003
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 2: to move to wide receivers. What I'm trying to tell

1004
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: you I was a better.

1005
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: Defensive What forced you to move there is because you

1006
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't hit anybody.

1007
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: No, that is not what It was the fact that

1008
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: the DV room with the Bengals it was too crowded.

1009
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: It was you didn't play dB at Oregon State.

1010
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: Yes I did. I played both waves. I w was

1011
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter? What did you talk about?

1012
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: I was Dion, I did all that, man, I wint that.

1013
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah Warwick. No, you were saying.

1014
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: Beyond who he man Hey at Liberty City listen, Liberty

1015
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: City Optimists. I play both ways. I play receiver, I

1016
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: play dB. I played quarterback and I play center.

1017
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: I did it all, lead it genlemen, thank you for

1018
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: tuning in to another episode of nightcap Unk. Shannon Sharp,

1019
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: He's Chad Ocho Cinko Johnson. Tune in again. We'll check

1020
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: you out Sunday night and Monday. Monday we got a

1021
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: double head of oho. But Sunday night we're back in

1022
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: action again. Thank you. We're out.

1023
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: Call me if you need me.

1024
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Don't call him if you need a dB, because he

1025
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: can do you no good