WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Time For LB Change?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Tuesday, October fifteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode

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<v Speaker 1>number sixty four. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We are live from the s w DC Mortgage Studios

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star and it is a Tuesday, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going big picture today. I've got a ton of questions

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<v Speaker 1>for these guys. We're going to hit a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different topics and hopefully we'll get to some questions from

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. You can call us the numbers eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight five five to two nine seven. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also hit us on Twitter at Derek Eagleton. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>your questions that way. And again, we just want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you guys a big picture look at this team

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<v Speaker 1>coming off another loss now at three and three, facing

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<v Speaker 1>a probably the biggest division threat that they have this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then heading into a buy so very very very

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<v Speaker 1>very critical game. We'll get into a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about that game tomorrow and Thursday, but sup, big picture today,

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<v Speaker 1>how's everybody feeling good? Feel good? Thanks us. Let's jump

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<v Speaker 1>right in. I have probably about I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>seven or eight questions here, and they're gonna be on

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<v Speaker 1>a range of different topics. Obviously a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with problems, because right now, when you

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<v Speaker 1>go three and three and you've lost the last three

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, there are lots of problems. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first with this question. What has been the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>or the bigger offensive problem wide receivers not getting open

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<v Speaker 1>or dropping the ball, or offensive line not blocking well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would say offensive line not blocking well

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, and there's reasons for that. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to sit there and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. But yeah, I would say the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line has been a struggle whether or not there were

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent healthy or the guys that are healthy

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<v Speaker 1>are not black and well, I would say that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that stems too. If you can't create the

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<v Speaker 1>gaps for Elliott or even Polar whoever is in, then

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<v Speaker 1>you start going to the receivers. I mean, that's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's a problem in and of itself since they can't catch.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd agree, I think the offensive line has not

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<v Speaker 1>been what it needs to be. And we've talked for

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<v Speaker 1>how many weeks about the drop off between your starting

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<v Speaker 1>tackles who are out Tyren Smith and Lyle Collins with

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Iden cam Fleming. However, that can't just be an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse every team. You have to have depth and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn to adjust, and something's not working to

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<v Speaker 1>Nick's point, and I think Derek brought it up yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously the problem with the tackles being healthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the interior hasn't played well. Connor Williams has

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<v Speaker 1>had his growing pains throughout the season. Travis, Frederick and Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Jets game is a second game this

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<v Speaker 1>season where they didn't seem like they played a very

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<v Speaker 1>good game, the Saints game being the other one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know Zach is dealing with with a back

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<v Speaker 1>injury of his own, but yeah, to quote de Marcus Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody cares. But yeah, they haven't. They haven't played up

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<v Speaker 1>to that standard they think they probably they did for

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<v Speaker 1>those first three games, which you know, look at the

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<v Speaker 1>competition and that might help explain it. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon what you've seen, you've seen, would you move

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<v Speaker 1>forward with putting Xavier Suafilo in in place of Connor Williams. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that you were not on the

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<v Speaker 1>show last week or two weeks ago when I said that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I missed a show. Yeah, I think so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>part of a show. Yeah, Nick did say that. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've said that a lot. So when you're

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<v Speaker 1>all in on that, I'm all in. I'm all in

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<v Speaker 1>because I just feel like he is a stronger player

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<v Speaker 1>physically stronger to do that. And last time they put

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<v Speaker 1>him in against the Eagles, I mean he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>handled Fletcher Cox as well as you can. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, Uh, I think it would be good, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with the situations that they have on the outside and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. I think he's he's a he's a good

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<v Speaker 1>veteran player, and I think this is it would be needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to go off of previous years when things

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<v Speaker 1>weren't going well, I think they would they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and do it during the bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>If Connor Williams struggles again, in this game, and he

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<v Speaker 1>might with Fletcher Cox being on that defense. Would you do?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they did, right, That's what they did. So

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<v Speaker 1>they did last year redskin game. He was not good

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams and bye week, yeah, well they they they

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<v Speaker 1>fired Paul Alexander and kind of switched things up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know that Connor didn't get benched.

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<v Speaker 1>He got hurt, right, but and they just didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>his job back. They've made personnel moves during the bye

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<v Speaker 1>week like that before. What I mean, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to fifteen when they benched Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Whedon for Castle et C. What would I do? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm not an offensive line expert by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>I that it feels convenient to be like, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem, and that'll that'll fix it, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>give me probably just I'm not pouring everything to corner.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of problems on this team, in particularly

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. But my point though is, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm asking you is is his play if you

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<v Speaker 1>just take his play by itself, knowing that you have

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<v Speaker 1>another guy like Xaviers to a fellow who you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>play and you feel like he's a pretty good player.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's an upgrade in moving Xavier into

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<v Speaker 1>the starting lineup over Connor? I know, we I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he did play well against the Eagles, but he played

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<v Speaker 1>several games last year and they weren't all beautiful. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if he was like this pro bowler

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<v Speaker 1>sitting back there, maybe I'd feel differently. But no, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm I'll roll forward with it and hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>get tiring back for this game or you certainly expect

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<v Speaker 1>you would get him back after the bye week. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't feel super strongly about that. Ny.

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<v Speaker 1>That was kind of my thought. I was when I

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<v Speaker 1>if you get tiring back. Is this as much of

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion as people are thinking about, right? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>just more focusing You're seeing Connor Williams and you're expecting

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<v Speaker 1>him to step up more since Tyring is out? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know. I guess maybe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's obviously Suaphilo is practicing, and but maybe you do

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<v Speaker 1>try more in the you know, those those first team reps.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that when what you saw from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the third and short fourth you know, fourth and short.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like that that he gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, He gives you a lot more strength

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<v Speaker 1>at there because I remember Connor was a tackle that's

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<v Speaker 1>moved to guard. I don't think that Suphilo has ever

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<v Speaker 1>been anything more than an interior player. So um. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't perfect last year, but I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just happened to be in the starting lineup for

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<v Speaker 1>that last you know run of seven out of eight games,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Cooper was probably the bigger reason for

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive turnaround, but I think he helped. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think he helped in there. And I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's you're you're just picking on one

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<v Speaker 1>guy to be like, well, you're the problem, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But but when you look at across the board guys

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't playing well, and then who's behind him, drop

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<v Speaker 1>off between Dak and Cooper. I'm not a rush I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that that's the problem, but I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>drop offs between the backup and that I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the closest one on the entire team because Suaphilo, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basically didn't give him his job back last year. Son

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Sufilo, I think is the closest backup to the

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<v Speaker 1>starter on any spot on the team. From that standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>is it fair to at least ask the question about

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<v Speaker 1>the center and whether your backup can give you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more than what you're getting from Travis Rage I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Joli. Yeah, it's fair. That's that's that's fair. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, like Dave said, I'm not an offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line expert on that one. Well, that is I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's in terms of in terms of like watching I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we have access to NFL Game Pass. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>watch the All twenty two and get an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. It's very hard to evaluate that if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't played it or coached it or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, broad Us has a lot of leeway to

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<v Speaker 1>speak on that with not just his scouting experience but

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<v Speaker 1>his spirits playing offensive line, you can do your best like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he got beat or but you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the protections, you don't know what each guy's a simon

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<v Speaker 1>is And I just I mean Connor and I said

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<v Speaker 1>it at the top of the show. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Zach and Travis played very well in that game, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm not ready to say like that, is

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<v Speaker 1>this just like blinking red light about why they're losing

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<v Speaker 1>these games and they've got to do something drastic. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm just not all the way there. I think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather they just stop trying to run into unfavorable looks,

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<v Speaker 1>like how about they do that instead. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we realized to have the importance of the Amari Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>injury in that game. I mean, yeah, they lost the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they lose the game if Cooper is

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<v Speaker 1>not hurt, and I don't think it's really that close. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then let's I just think Amari Cooper being out for

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<v Speaker 1>that particular game I think was a fourteen to seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>point difference, that they probably win the game by two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that. Okay, so let's take this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your next question. You set this up perfectly. Which player

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<v Speaker 1>is more critical to the Cowboys offensive success? Mary Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>or Tyron Smith. Honestly, the answer has been Tyron for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel stupid saying it's probably a Mari Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it probably is because who backed him.

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<v Speaker 1>Up eleven. I mean you wind up trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>it work with Michael Gallup, Cedric Wilson and Tavon Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Tavon Austin was playing outside for a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big chunk of that game, and we saw the difference there.

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<v Speaker 1>He can make some plays if he gets lined up right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's That's not really a knock on him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not really that type of guy. He's an inside

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<v Speaker 1>guy that those guys make mistakes when they're out there

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not lining up on the right spot cost

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<v Speaker 1>them a big play in the game. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about drop offs between the starter and the backup,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Amari Cooper to Cedric Wilson is a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>drop off than Tyron Smith to Cam Fleming. As weird

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<v Speaker 1>as that sounds, I'll go to my grave and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, the offensive tackle play is not why they

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<v Speaker 1>lost the Packers or the Jets. I'm not saying those

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<v Speaker 1>guys played great. I mean, you know that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a big dispute on Talking Cowboys yesterday about Dak getting

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<v Speaker 1>hit like Dak took a lot of those shots, extending

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<v Speaker 1>plays outside of the pocket, like It's not like he

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<v Speaker 1>just had two, in particular two of the biggest hit

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<v Speaker 1>tablet outside the pocket. Yeah, it's not like he had

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<v Speaker 1>no time to throw and there were just got I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>go watch at lant At twenty seventeen if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see what that looks like. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>was that well. And again, sorry, but he saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets do it all day, like, get the ball out

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<v Speaker 1>of his hand faster, help your tackles. I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the old do what we do thing like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys could be better at adjusting their

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<v Speaker 1>play calls to suit who's on the field for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think drop off in the passing game is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty severe without Amari Cooper and especially I mean Michael Gallop.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I gotta give Amber credit. She called

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<v Speaker 1>out the receivers last week. I didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>justified based on what we had seen to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was an ironic twist of faith that the

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<v Speaker 1>first time Gallup was called upon to be more without

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper in there, he wasn't up to it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>only kind of highlighted the problem. So if you told

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<v Speaker 1>me I could have one of the two for this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd rather have Cooper than tying me too, Yeah, adn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, And I think we've seen that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>last year without Cooper and you get so excited and

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<v Speaker 1>we see such great things from Gallop and he even

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<v Speaker 1>said he's like, it's on me. He's in locker room

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday he goes, I had three passes I should have

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<v Speaker 1>had and I don't know what you do differently. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have an answer in terms of how you

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<v Speaker 1>execute better. But there is a big drop off and

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<v Speaker 1>he's the guy and he did not perform, and Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson did not set up the way he need to.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw some good plays from Tavon, but there just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough. And if you know, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the injuries, I think that if if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to tell me, you know, make a bet on

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<v Speaker 1>which player is going to be able to play in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, I would say Tyrant Smith over Amari Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't look like Amara he's gonna play. And I'm basing

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<v Speaker 1>that off of the fact that he had no shot

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<v Speaker 1>of coming back in that game, Like he wasn't trying,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't he was just sitting there. I know he

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<v Speaker 1>was in a lot of pain, but he was just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there. It wasn't close to coming back. I just

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time thinking then he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be back for this game. Yeah with the

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<v Speaker 1>bye week sitting there and doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel good about it on Tuesday. But real quick

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<v Speaker 1>about that, we've seen this free years one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bye weeks there. It's so much easier to just rest

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<v Speaker 1>the guy one more game and knowing that that's there

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<v Speaker 1>and they cannot do that. They if these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>healthy to play, they got to play. It's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>game of the year. I will say this, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of their problems offensively originate on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of the things we've seen, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in the last three games, have been issues at start

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<v Speaker 1>at the offensive line. Other guys have their hand in,

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<v Speaker 1>and but I think it starts with the offensive on

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is and goes to what you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>saying here. Last year, the Cowboys were not doing very

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<v Speaker 1>well until they got Amari Cooper and then everything changed. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have Amari Cooper in this offense, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going back to that this wide receiver by committee that's

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<v Speaker 1>proven not to work with the current set of players.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think it's there yet. They looked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better in this game against the Jets than they

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<v Speaker 1>did during those lean games before a Cooper got there.

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<v Speaker 1>I differ. I disagree with that. I think I think offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the first set, like they were they were

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard time getting any kind of rhythm going.

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<v Speaker 1>It was because they didn't have reliable catches like there

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<v Speaker 1>were there were opportunities there, but they didn't have anybody

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<v Speaker 1>stepping up to make the player. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>they obviously didn't play well, but like it's a testament

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<v Speaker 1>to how atrocious they were against Carolina in Seattle early

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<v Speaker 1>last season. Like that looked better than what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eight. And I think both those teams probably

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess, are a little bit better or a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better last year than what the Jets are

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Why would deposit And I mean, based on

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen, I don't expect the Cowboys to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of it, based on what we've seen in the

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<v Speaker 1>last three weeks, But the Eagles might have the worst

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<v Speaker 1>secondary in the league, and we can get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see if they can. If the Cowboys can't take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of that, let's take our first break. We come back.

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back in. We got some questions. We got

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<v Speaker 1>some other teams to get to before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. Yeah, well that's I know. I'm just saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said that, I was like, Oh, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>one more problem. That's just lingering out there. That'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem we deal with later. Um. All right, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back. Another question for you guys. This next

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<v Speaker 1>question is what is the what has been the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>defensive problem for this team? Pass rush coverage or run defense, Collie.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that that there's been a seven second pause

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<v Speaker 1>tells you that everyone love thinking, Yeah, it's all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they all kind of got to pick one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna say tackling, because if you have

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<v Speaker 1>to fix one, if you have to fix, pick fix one.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one do you think gives you the better chance

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the others? Pass rush? Pass rush to me

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<v Speaker 1>gives you you can I mean, if you get after

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<v Speaker 1>his ass back there, then you can do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Your coverage looks a lot even more than

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<v Speaker 1>run defense has their coverage with the exception of this

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<v Speaker 1>past game, like in the other five, was their coverage awful?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the last two. I would say in

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<v Speaker 1>the last two they've probably had some issues in coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean green Bay they scored a lot of points

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<v Speaker 1>in and some of that. I mean, they You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get just destroyed. I've just seen some and

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers finished with two thirty eight and needed three or

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<v Speaker 1>four really Rogers esque throws to make it happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said it. I said it after that game. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's gonna happen when you play him asked

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<v Speaker 1>the fricking pack the Lions about that. I mean, did

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<v Speaker 1>you see him last night? Yeah. One of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why I probably have a weird opinion about the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>with regards to the Packards game is because they're pack

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<v Speaker 1>They're tackling. Was also a part of the problem, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think I'm kind of equating that just

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<v Speaker 1>to the secondary in general. But you're right, from a

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<v Speaker 1>PAS defense standpoint, that wasn't the issue of that game

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<v Speaker 1>the first part. Cheeto Cheeto had a rough first half

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<v Speaker 1>against DeVante Parker against the Dolphin, But in general, it

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<v Speaker 1>has not been a week to week thing where I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this this still hasn't played up. I don't think Kedo

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<v Speaker 1>has played up to expectations as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody Robert Quinn is the only guy who's maybe Malik

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<v Speaker 1>Collins who's fitting that bill. I don't think the run

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<v Speaker 1>defense has been to the point where it's the biggest problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the page of the Packers, they got after him, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones, you know, But I still think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that had to do with with how they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to to, you know, try to get Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the Packers have a great offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>and they caught him and they gassed him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and with with a big lead like that, they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep running the ball. But I think for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, going up against Kamara, going up against

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<v Speaker 1>Levon Bell, I think the run defense has been okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not I think the biggest problem is the past rush.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just not getting there the past rush. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the run defense has been that good. All things

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<v Speaker 1>across that are all all that good. Say Quan did

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<v Speaker 1>his thing, They were really good against Kamara. Say Quan

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<v Speaker 1>did his thing. The jet well what no, they I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what they haven't been that the pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the guy that sits here every week and defends

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<v Speaker 1>to Marcus Lawrence, and I don't think he deserves as

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<v Speaker 1>much criticism as he's gotten. But man, all through training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about Lawrence, you're talking about Quinn, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Malik, and you know, we went on and on

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<v Speaker 1>about how, you know, the guys that they cut off

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<v Speaker 1>of this defensive line, we're going to be better than

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<v Speaker 1>the guys playing on a lot of other teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't looked that way. I was singing that same thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've been sitting here saying Quinn, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need all this criticism. He's being double teamed. But

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, I mean Lawrence, Lawrence, yeah, sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so but at this point, we're six games in.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to find a way to start adjusting to

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<v Speaker 1>that and finding a way to get things done. They've

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<v Speaker 1>missed a healthy Tyrone Crawford. I mean he isn't he's

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy, but they they've missed that, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that him out there, he's one of those players.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the fans don't really you know, think

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<v Speaker 1>he's all that good. But but the fact he is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's maybe his contracts really you know, it

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>used to be a really big contract. Now it's probably yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even that crazy anymore. But but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that that he provides past rush and run stopping ability

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<v Speaker 1>from the defensive end position is is I think in

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<v Speaker 1>an underrated part of his game. It really is. And

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<v Speaker 1>him not being healthy for these last you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just missed some games and then he's been back for

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<v Speaker 1>two and hasn't really been very impactful. Um. I'm telling you, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you talked about calls that were missed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that I talked to him yesterday. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest calls that that that ref's missed in that

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<v Speaker 1>game was the fact that he got punched in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the head on a third down um or

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>from the goal line. That would have been that would

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<v Speaker 1>have really been a big play in the game. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's funny that guy must have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen that video. And that's been because I mean, punching

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<v Speaker 1>Tyron Crawford in the head like that, it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>the smart move, but whatever worked out worked out for

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<v Speaker 1>him for that time. He I mean right in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of everybody. I mean, I saw it. I said

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<v Speaker 1>it to you and and I saw it on the replay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, yeah, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>which I guess the way you worded the question doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>afford me to give this answer. But even having just

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<v Speaker 1>said what I said about the pass rush, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could pick anything to be disappointed about in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of preseason expectations, and right now, it's probably the play

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<v Speaker 1>of Layton vander esh and Jaalin Smith. Well, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to that. I got a question for on that.

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind a question for you on that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to this next question. Though this may take

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the show, so feel free to go

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you want on this so far, How

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<v Speaker 1>does Kellen Moore's offense compare to Scott len hands better, worse?

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<v Speaker 1>The same which game we're talking about, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the season as all of all of them pull it

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<v Speaker 1>all together, It's still better. It's still better at number

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<v Speaker 1>one in the league going into this game. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it still probably is because again, like they had, they

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<v Speaker 1>put up four hundred yards of offense in this game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's And that's kind that goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>my point is like throw on the tape of the

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<v Speaker 1>first Seattle game last year or the season opener against

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Carolina if you need a refresher of just how bad

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it was, Because I promise now. But MARII Cooper. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like the thing about it is is we talked about

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.959
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper being so much, you know, helping this offense

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I mean, I think you have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the last eight games for Scott Lanahan in the

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<v Speaker 1>first you know, let's say eight games, when when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets eight games and then and then kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, I think it's closer to the same. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this offense better though, I think just because

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a better quarterback than he had

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>last year. I mean just I think Dak is just

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<v Speaker 1>improving to the point I think he's better. I think

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this he's getting a little bit more production out of

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end spot this year because Witten, you know,

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Witten's not what he was, but he's still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still out there, he's still making some plays. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just think they're they're a little bit better. But

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone numbers what what? What is the red

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>zone they it's been cut in half since the losing

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>streaks started, Like they were insane in the red zone

0:23:54.880 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's honestly, which good question. I'm still I'm still

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>annoyed by the whole well, Garrett's telling Kellen Moore what

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<v Speaker 1>to do thing, and we kind of talked about that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's no way to know that, but and it

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<v Speaker 1>cropped up after the Saints game. It sort of it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really talked about last week or the Packers week

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<v Speaker 1>because the game got out of hand. But like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, how different has it looked to you in

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<v Speaker 1>these let's just say Jets and Saints, Like, how different

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>has it looked to you from what they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, Because like all the fun stuff we saw

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>in the first three weeks has felt lacking. And I

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.479
<v Speaker 1>wonder if I wonder if some of that is because

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 1>the games got away from them. I wonder if some

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<v Speaker 1>of that is against lesser opponents, maybe they feel freer

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<v Speaker 1>to try different things than against really good teams that

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like, hey, every possession matters, so we gotta

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>be more conservative. I don't know what it is, but

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you're right, it feels to me, at least, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the way that they call the first three games

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<v Speaker 1>it's different than the way they call it the last three.

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<v Speaker 1>I want I want to point this out too. I

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<v Speaker 1>hear this a lot about well you know, the score,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, was kind of they were behind the eight

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<v Speaker 1>ball there, the game got away from them. Whatever, you know,

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>they're getting down seventeen. He had to change. Just remember

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that one of the reasons why the game got away

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>from him any team is because of the offense. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think we forget that a lot. It's like, well,

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they got down by seventeen. They got down to seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't do anything in the first quarter or

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>for you know, so the Packer game got away from

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>them because they couldn't do anything. They were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I understand why things changed, but the first

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<v Speaker 1>part of the game and some of the Jets Cowboys,

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>they're the reason why the game is getting away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you in general principle. I think in

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>this game it was a bit different because the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>they made before the game, particularly with the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>position and who was active and inactive. That became apparent

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>very quickly because Amari goes out quick. And now, as

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they talked about after the game, now they're running twelve

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 1>personnel a lot more than they probably would have gone

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>into that game expecting they would, and that does change

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>things when you now have two tight ends on the

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>field as opposed to three wide receivers. That drastically changes

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna do with your offense. So I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you generally, Yes, that's the case. But I think

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it changed so much with Mari going out this game.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it really left him in a really bad situation.

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>For the record, Jason Garrett said yesterday that they really

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't anticipating that that was something that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to deal with, Like they you know,

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they didn't put him somebody's injury. Yeah, Mars. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put Devin Smith down thinking that a Mark Cooper might

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<v Speaker 1>only get a handful of plays. And if they, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have suspect they would have known that it would

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<v Speaker 1>have because completely different. But they didn't, Right, Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's sorry, That's that's a good point. I mean,

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they ran a crazy amount of twelve personnel, but I

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:43.959
<v Speaker 1>mean Marie Cooper, no, Marie Cooper seventeen runs on first

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<v Speaker 1>down out of twenty four opportunities. Yeah, bothers me. That's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna take our final break, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come back, and I'm gonna ask this question to our panel.

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<v Speaker 1>Should Sean Lee or Joe Thomas be starting over Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and or Layton vander Esch. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>At the start, we're doing a big picture Tuesday. We

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<v Speaker 1>got lots of questions flowing at These guys are giving

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<v Speaker 1>me some good answers. Here, I got one that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really start the pot a little bit. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the linebacker position. Should Sean Lee or Joe thom Must

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<v Speaker 1>be starting over Jalen Smith and or Layton Vandersche. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with you, Danny. What do your opinions are? I

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<v Speaker 1>think at this point I would start Lee. I would

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<v Speaker 1>I think we haven't seen any one. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>key part. Yeah, that sounds good. Now now one let's

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<v Speaker 1>go well he was starting over Laton at the beginning

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of last year. Anyway, Yeah, I just okay, you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't seen enough of them and your best linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>when they're on the field, shn Lee? Okay, whose second

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>i'd want? Fifty five? I think it's Layton. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Layton's at some moments when it wasn't isn't great,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he's had more good moments than Jaylen

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<v Speaker 1>Ass personally. See this is where the whole You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they love to tell you the NFL's like a meritocracy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not always true true, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. Is Jason Garrett really gonna risk whatever comes

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<v Speaker 1>with benching a defensive captain who's, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the de facto leaders of the Hot Boys and is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one of the public faces of this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really buy it. I will say this though,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they play those guys, they don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>have to bench him. They can just start and they

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<v Speaker 1>can keep the starters the way they are and they

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<v Speaker 1>just start playing and they can do They've well, they've

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<v Speaker 1>already done it like we I mean, you know, Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten taken out for series throughout play accounts like

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<v Speaker 1>how many plays they're each getting. I can pull up

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the packet. I haven't looked at it. If Smith Smith

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<v Speaker 1>got benched, it would set the NFL record for fewest

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<v Speaker 1>days between press conference and demoded. That's another thing too,

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<v Speaker 1>the league. Yeah, don't you think, no doubt it would

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely be It would be headline news. But I'm right now,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>when you're on a three game skid. I think you're

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>way more concerned about getting wins than all the extra

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff around it, in my opinion. Yeah, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a player that's not getting that is

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>playing well, okay, and a player that's not playing as well,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that all things are fair game. Okay. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing. Ezekiel Elliott great running back, right, What if

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you put him at wide receiver? Would he be great? No,

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>he's not. He's a running back, So quit trying to

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>make Jalen Smith a defensive tackle and rush him against

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<v Speaker 1>the guard. That's not what he does. He's a linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to he's he needs those big boys up

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<v Speaker 1>front so he can run around. He's not one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think he needs to be playing on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line and trying to rush and all that stuff.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, put him in position where he can do

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<v Speaker 1>he can sort of rush off the edge a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's got two saxes, you're right, I mean one

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of them. Um. I'm not saying he wasn't a big play,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>but I mean Carrie Hyder had Bridgewater out and he

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of cleaned it up. But but him against the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles. I don't like that play at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like I don't like those little guys up there

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<v Speaker 1>because because that's not where mismatches are. You know, I

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>mean you don't. You don't. You can run a forty

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<v Speaker 1>yard dash and you can beat a guard all day,

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>but when you're right there in space, they get their

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>hands on him, they can't do anything. But I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a place to be successful. I'd be more in favor.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess of more rotation and put Shawn Lee in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's yeah, Jalen is playing eighty six percent of

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the snaps right now. Layton's at ninety, Shawn Lee's at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, Joe Thomas is at twenty one. Yeah, I'm

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>up in that on Sean quite a bit. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Sean played even a little but well, so they played

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two defensive snaps against the Jets. Sean played thirty seven,

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>so he's up closer to fifty fifty percent. Jalen played

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>forty nine, which I can't do that math in my

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>head because I'm dumb, But forty nine out of sixty

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>two here I have a cvity that's boom. Look at

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy nine that's gonna say it close to eighty. But anyway,

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>we go, oh, oh are you? I mean, first, I

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of I kind of feel the same way, honestly,

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and maybe maybe I'm just I don't know, maybe I'm

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>being an apologist, like i'd honestly, I'd rather just let

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>him play through it, like you know baseball. You think

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to play through it? Yes, I do. There,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean what you're saying. Jerry Jones's thing is always

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like if you've seen a guy do it once,

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you know he can do it. But I mean, okay,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>get how to play football. You guys have watched him play.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>You can say that about showing no and that's true.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with giving him more snaps.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I wouldn't quote. They used to say this

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>all the time about linebackers. You have three to play

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>two spots. Maybe it's you know, four to have two

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>spots now, But but maybe that's what they need to do.

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>They don't just need to like call press conference and

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>just bench the guys, but just rotating defensively do it.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I paid twenty one million a year for DeMarcus you know, Lawrence,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and he rotates with Kerry Hyders no matter the down

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like down distanced. That's what they need to do. That's

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that is like you're not gonna bench anybody because of

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>all the ramifications and and you know, keeping team morale,

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>but you rotate them more if you want to. And yeah,

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Shaun Lee is a great player. He's played like he's deserving.

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with that, but like I'm

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>not benching people. And on top of that, like I

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know, they're they're good players. And when a you know,

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Mike Trout doesn't have slumps because he's incredible, but like

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>if he did baseball, you just keep You're just like

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>just keep getting up there and you'll work through it.

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's what's important mentally. Yeah, yeah, And I

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>agree with you generally, and I actually think that applies

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>a little more for Layton in my opinion. But I'll

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you, guys, what have you seen from Jalen Because

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I know Nick, you and I have talked about in

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the press box. Sarah plays he just doesn't look right,

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and he looks like he's lumbering out there. That way,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>he agree with you, he is lumbering out there, and

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>so my question becomes, is that just my mind planing

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>tricks on me, or is this a situation where they're

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>legitimately like, that's who he is and that's who he's

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. And because of that, it's not it's not

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that he's getting worse or getting better. It's just that

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that's who he is. There's certain things he is limited

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.479
<v Speaker 1>in what he can do, and he wasn't that guy

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>last year unless in which you know, and Nick has

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>made this point before, like he looks rough in the

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 1>open field trying to tackle like wide receivers, but again,

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>he's a linebacker most linebackers. It's even it's even moving

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>in space, Like you get him down field where he's

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>having to chase a running back and he's having to

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>do it laterally. He doesn't look right. He doesn't look fluid.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's the part I'm more concerned about. He's made

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>some freaky plays moving laterally in the past, like again

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the Deshaun Watson one and the album Kmara one from

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 1>last year come to mind. Have you have you seen

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>those this year? Um? I would bet I know. Layton

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>made one on Kimara this year that was really impressive.

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Nothing springs to my mind. But I would bet there's

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>more there if I went back and looked at it,

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>not not that it's can you give me a study place? Yeah, Look,

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>eleven tackles in a row three straight games. I mean

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a good number right there, you know eleven. Uh,

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>he had three last week though, and and that that's concerning,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and he knows he had a bad game, that that

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was a bad game for him. Yeah, yeah, I absolutely,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine putting Sean on the field more. But like, yeah,

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it doesn't need to be this big ceremonial process

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>of like benching somebody. Yeah, we don't. We don't sit

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>there and call out you know. Well sort of, I

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>guess the Marcus Lawrence, you know, I mean for how

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>they rotate those guys. But um, you know, it's just

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just interesting because you don't want to put money involved,

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>but but it is sort of you know. And and

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>they they made the decision to make this guy way

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>more paid than any of these other defensive ends. But

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>yet Rod Marinelli still plays them the same way, you know,

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>And you would like to think that the guy making

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty one million the year over the guy making six

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand shouldn't be rotating, you know, snaps like that.

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, real quick, we're gonna get a phone call.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>We got a call from Rob Out in Las Vegas.

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Rob what up? Hey, guys, just looking at the offense

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>real quick. I think a couple of things. One. I

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>think Zeek now has turned into a grinder and not

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a home run hitter, and I think that affects this team.

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they're missing Beasley. I think Colb is not

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>as good as Beasley for what they want to move

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to change. Beasley's got better hands, and I just think

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>he's better at that. I think I think whiteness. I

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>think they would have been better which are and he

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>could stretch the field, especially the middle. I like Witt

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and the old Man, but he's just too slow and defensively.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Nick's been talking about this for years. The reason why

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I felt you need some big sack lineman is to

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>protect your sports car linebackers. Jaylen Smith and Van the

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>rest are not trucks. They have sports cars. They run sideline.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>The sideline teams now realize we'll just run out of them,

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think they've ever recovered from getting run

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>over against the rams and the playoffs. They look like

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>boxers who took up beatings and they don't want the contact.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>The one thing about Sean Lee, I know he gets hurt,

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>but he will attack the whole and he will come

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>up and hit him. So will Joe Thomas. Uh, they're

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>not going to bench these guys. You know that you're

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>not gonna bench a guy just hate Jaalen Smith and

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Van der esh is their their future? They just won't.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>But I agree, I would like to see Sean Lee

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>on the field more, but this team doesn't really do that.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>And let's and for one more thing, Xavier Woods and

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Malie Collins. We fall into the trap every preseason. We

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>fall in love with training camp guys we hit, they

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>look so good, and we just have to realize that

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 1>that's stake football. You know, that's that's not real football.

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>We've seen it for years. And these guys get on

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the field and they're just guys that they're nothing special,

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's just hurt this team. All right, Thanks

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>for the call, O. The scary part about that call

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is that I'm I'm not sure he's wrong about anything.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 1>That's what's scary. I'm not sure I'm not. I don't

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>know about that. I don't like calling MALIEK. Collins just

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a guy, I think, but MALIEK. Collins, which we I

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>talked about this a week or two ago, is like

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>at training camp, what do you see, Like you see

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the ability to rush the passer, and he is good

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>at that. He's been good at it this year in

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, fake football, though, Well it is, and you

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>don't see the run defense aspect of it. You don't

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>see that, and they haven't been good at that. And

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Rod Marinelli values these undersized defensive tackles who

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>can get up field. It hasn't looked great against the run.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a very good point when it

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>comes to why Layton and Jalen might not be playing better.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It would be great if the defensive tackle they drafted

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was good enough to get a game. Jersey. I don't

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>think that makes Tristan Hill a bust, but it's certainly

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>disappointing that a guy you drafted in the top sixty

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't good enough to be playing like it. Is absolutely disappointed.

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And then you take that part and then you go

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>with the party. He said about Xavier Woods kind of

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>being a guy, and then you realize that they took

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill over a guy Juan Thornhill, who's playing really

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>well for the Chiefs right now, getting interceptions and making

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>some plays. And then you couple that with the fact

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that Xavier Woods is just kind of just playing okay,

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and you have to go no farther than this last

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>week to see what a great safety can do to

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>change games. And the Cowboys don't have a plus safety

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>right now that I at any level even close to that.

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>That guy reminded me of I hate saying this because

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy's Hall of Famer, but he reminded me of

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Troy Polam because every time I watched the Steelers play,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>if it was a blitz, he was there right there

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>or right on the last scrimage. But then when it

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>was a deep ball, he was back there like everywhere.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>He just guessed right, and an instincts allow you to

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. And I thought Jamal Adams was everywhere in

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 1>that game. I told you trade for him. The other

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 1>part I don't necessarily agree with from now, we would

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>before the game, so you don't take the light. The

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>other part of the uncle I don't necessarily agree with

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>was the Beasley and Cobb. Yeah, by having Cobb, I

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>think Cobb is much better for yards after catch. I

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>think still stronger would disagree. Really, Beasley is a better player,

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't be a better player for what you're

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>trying to do with with Cooper and Gallop now able

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to kind of stretch a little bit more than than

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you ever had, and they're versatile. I think the move

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the chains guy is better. Yeah, Cobb can stretch it, okay,

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>but when when? But there were a lot of games.

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of games over his career I'm

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about Cole, a lot of games where he didn't

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>show up, couldn't get open. So you tell me, yeah,

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a move the chains guy, but he's not always

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>getting open. He's not and making play. So I still don't.

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I still believe that they are about the same player

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 1>from the standpoint of them being able to get open

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball. I do think the Cobb adds an

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>additional dimension that Beasley doesn't necessarily add from the standpoint

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of being able to get down field and if he

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>needs to playing outside a little bit by being at

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>route runner inside, and I think that then playing with

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper and Gallup and the fact that they are

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>better route runners than anyone the Cowboys have ever had.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>We know, Terrence Williams and Dez We're not the best

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>at route running. So I think you've got two legitimate

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 1>outside threats at receiver that can do everything. I think

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Beasley I mean, but that again, the money wasn't just

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>about to say change it up. Now, Let's ask that

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>question for one year five million and then he I mean,

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Beasley was making seven in or eight and it's on

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a malt I mean, yea, yeah, I wasn't the same

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>from their standpoint. It's on which cop. First of all,

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Cop wasn't healthy, Cob has had drops and him and

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Dak haven't been able to get on the same page.

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>But like more than anything, like just Callen Moore Scotland,

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and like why why can't the Cowboys get more than

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>like two wide receivers in Jason Witten involved in their offense?

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Like why does that seem like such a cool Tavon

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Austin and Cedric Wilson did it out of necessity, but

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard is just collecting dust somewhere on the sideline.

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Tavon's an afterthought until somebody gets hurt. Jarwin. Haven't really

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>seen him utilized much outside of going down the seam

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>where it works, by the way, and it's like it's

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like they don't know how to manufacture touches for anybody

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>other than the obvious three. So Cobb's role has been

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>disappointing to that point. I don't know how much I

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 1>put on put that on Cobb schemes some stuff up

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.240
<v Speaker 1>for him. Yeah, let me say this too, about Whitten

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and Jarwin, I don't know if I mean, yes, one's

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>way more athletic than the other, I get that, but

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know right now about the blocking, you know,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>as far as being on the field as much. I'm

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 1>not saying Witten has been the best at blocking, and

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, he's had some penalties and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that too, But I don't think Jarwin's, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>great blocker either. So I don't know. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>said Jarwin needs to play over Witten, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what happens there. I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we need to ask that question. It's no, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jimmy m has been a terrible blocker his entire career,

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<v Speaker 1>and and he's he's way on. He's not what he

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<v Speaker 1>used to be. I get that. But you can figure

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<v Speaker 1>out ways to use guy's skill sets to their advantages.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't ask a bad blocker to block. Send him

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<v Speaker 1>down the seam where he'll catch it twenty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>downfield and set you up on the goal line linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>or safety with him. So he still has some value, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he still helps. It's it's like it's very paint by

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<v Speaker 1>numbers to me where there It's like, we have this

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<v Speaker 1>situation where we will use this guy and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>very by numbers. I like how you put it feels

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<v Speaker 1>very black and white and and and boring and and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else to say. Average three and

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<v Speaker 1>three three three and three. All right, guys, appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>join us. We're back tomorrow. We're gonna get heavy into

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Eagles. We'll talk about the Philly offense tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>then the defense on Thursday. Hopefully get you guys ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this game. Lets you know what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Danny Serek, I'm

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