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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, October fifteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number sixty four. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are live from the s w DC Mortgage Studios
Speaker 1: at the Star and it is a Tuesday, so we're
Speaker 1: going big picture today. I've got a ton of questions
Speaker 1: for these guys. We're going to hit a lot of
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Speaker 1: give you guys a big picture look at this team
Speaker 1: coming off another loss now at three and three, facing
Speaker 1: a probably the biggest division threat that they have this week,
Speaker 1: and then heading into a buy so very very very
Speaker 1: very critical game. We'll get into a little bit more
Speaker 1: about that game tomorrow and Thursday, but sup, big picture today,
Speaker 1: how's everybody feeling good? Feel good? Thanks us. Let's jump
Speaker 1: right in. I have probably about I don't know about
Speaker 1: seven or eight questions here, and they're gonna be on
Speaker 1: a range of different topics. Obviously a lot of them
Speaker 1: have to do with problems, because right now, when you
Speaker 1: go three and three and you've lost the last three
Speaker 1: in a row, there are lots of problems. So let's
Speaker 1: start first with this question. What has been the biggest
Speaker 1: or the bigger offensive problem wide receivers not getting open
Speaker 1: or dropping the ball, or offensive line not blocking well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say offensive line not blocking well
Speaker 1: because you know, and there's reasons for that. We know
Speaker 1: that you don't have to sit there and you know,
Speaker 1: talk about that. But yeah, I would say the offensive
Speaker 1: line has been a struggle whether or not there were
Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy or the guys that are healthy
Speaker 1: are not black and well, I would say that, and
Speaker 1: I think that stems too. If you can't create the
Speaker 1: gaps for Elliott or even Polar whoever is in, then
Speaker 1: you start going to the receivers. I mean, that's obviously
Speaker 1: it's a problem in and of itself since they can't catch.
Speaker 1: But I'd agree, I think the offensive line has not
Speaker 1: been what it needs to be. And we've talked for
Speaker 1: how many weeks about the drop off between your starting
Speaker 1: tackles who are out Tyren Smith and Lyle Collins with
Speaker 1: Brandon Iden cam Fleming. However, that can't just be an
Speaker 1: excuse every team. You have to have depth and you
Speaker 1: have to learn to adjust, and something's not working to
Speaker 1: Nick's point, and I think Derek brought it up yesterday.
Speaker 1: And obviously the problem with the tackles being healthy, but
Speaker 1: you know, the interior hasn't played well. Connor Williams has
Speaker 1: had his growing pains throughout the season. Travis, Frederick and Martin.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets game is a second game this
Speaker 1: season where they didn't seem like they played a very
Speaker 1: good game, the Saints game being the other one. I mean,
Speaker 1: we all know Zach is dealing with with a back
Speaker 1: injury of his own, but yeah, to quote de Marcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: nobody cares. But yeah, they haven't. They haven't played up
Speaker 1: to that standard they think they probably they did for
Speaker 1: those first three games, which you know, look at the
Speaker 1: competition and that might help explain it. At this point,
Speaker 1: based upon what you've seen, you've seen, would you move
Speaker 1: forward with putting Xavier Suafilo in in place of Connor Williams. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that you were not on the
Speaker 1: show last week or two weeks ago when I said that,
Speaker 1: So I missed a show. Yeah, I think so I'm
Speaker 1: part of a show. Yeah, Nick did say that. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've said that a lot. So when you're
Speaker 1: all in on that, I'm all in. I'm all in
Speaker 1: because I just feel like he is a stronger player
Speaker 1: physically stronger to do that. And last time they put
Speaker 1: him in against the Eagles, I mean he kind of
Speaker 1: handled Fletcher Cox as well as you can. So I
Speaker 1: think that, Uh, I think it would be good, especially
Speaker 1: with the situations that they have on the outside and
Speaker 1: all that. I think he's he's a he's a good
Speaker 1: veteran player, and I think this is it would be needed.
Speaker 1: Just trying to go off of previous years when things
Speaker 1: weren't going well, I think they would they were going
Speaker 1: to do that and do it during the bye week.
Speaker 1: If Connor Williams struggles again, in this game, and he
Speaker 1: might with Fletcher Cox being on that defense. Would you do?
Speaker 1: That's what they did, right, That's what they did. So
Speaker 1: they did last year redskin game. He was not good
Speaker 1: Connor Williams and bye week, yeah, well they they they
Speaker 1: fired Paul Alexander and kind of switched things up. And
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that Connor didn't get benched.
Speaker 1: He got hurt, right, but and they just didn't get
Speaker 1: his job back. They've made personnel moves during the bye
Speaker 1: week like that before. What I mean, you can go
Speaker 1: all the way back to fifteen when they benched Brandon
Speaker 1: Whedon for Castle et C. What would I do? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not an offensive line expert by any means.
Speaker 1: I that it feels convenient to be like, well that's
Speaker 1: that's the problem, and that'll that'll fix it, and don't
Speaker 1: give me probably just I'm not pouring everything to corner.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of problems on this team, in particularly
Speaker 1: the offensive line. But my point though is, I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm asking you is is his play if you
Speaker 1: just take his play by itself, knowing that you have
Speaker 1: another guy like Xaviers to a fellow who you've seen
Speaker 1: play and you feel like he's a pretty good player.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's an upgrade in moving Xavier into
Speaker 1: the starting lineup over Connor? I know, we I mean,
Speaker 1: he did play well against the Eagles, but he played
Speaker 1: several games last year and they weren't all beautiful. Like
Speaker 1: you know, if if he was like this pro bowler
Speaker 1: sitting back there, maybe I'd feel differently. But no, I
Speaker 1: think I'm I'll roll forward with it and hopefully you
Speaker 1: get tiring back for this game or you certainly expect
Speaker 1: you would get him back after the bye week. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel super strongly about that. Ny.
Speaker 1: That was kind of my thought. I was when I
Speaker 1: if you get tiring back. Is this as much of
Speaker 1: a discussion as people are thinking about, right? Are we
Speaker 1: just more focusing You're seeing Connor Williams and you're expecting
Speaker 1: him to step up more since Tyring is out? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I guess maybe, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's obviously Suaphilo is practicing, and but maybe you do
Speaker 1: try more in the you know, those those first team reps.
Speaker 1: I just think that when what you saw from you know,
Speaker 1: the third and short fourth you know, fourth and short.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that that he gives you a
Speaker 1: little bit more, He gives you a lot more strength
Speaker 1: at there because I remember Connor was a tackle that's
Speaker 1: moved to guard. I don't think that Suphilo has ever
Speaker 1: been anything more than an interior player. So um. I
Speaker 1: know it wasn't perfect last year, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he just happened to be in the starting lineup for
Speaker 1: that last you know run of seven out of eight games,
Speaker 1: and you know, Cooper was probably the bigger reason for
Speaker 1: the offensive turnaround, but I think he helped. I do.
Speaker 1: I do think he helped in there. And I get it.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's you're you're just picking on one
Speaker 1: guy to be like, well, you're the problem, you know,
Speaker 1: But but when you look at across the board guys
Speaker 1: that aren't playing well, and then who's behind him, drop
Speaker 1: off between Dak and Cooper. I'm not a rush I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that's the problem, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: drop offs between the backup and that I think that's
Speaker 1: the closest one on the entire team because Suaphilo, you know,
Speaker 1: basically didn't give him his job back last year. Son
Speaker 1: Connor Sufilo, I think is the closest backup to the
Speaker 1: starter on any spot on the team. From that standpoint,
Speaker 1: is it fair to at least ask the question about
Speaker 1: the center and whether your backup can give you maybe
Speaker 1: more than what you're getting from Travis Rage I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Joli. Yeah, it's fair. That's that's that's fair. But um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, like Dave said, I'm not an offensive
Speaker 1: line expert on that one. Well, that is I think
Speaker 1: that's in terms of in terms of like watching I mean,
Speaker 1: we have access to NFL Game Pass. You can go
Speaker 1: watch the All twenty two and get an idea of
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's very hard to evaluate that if
Speaker 1: you haven't played it or coached it or you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, broad Us has a lot of leeway to
Speaker 1: speak on that with not just his scouting experience but
Speaker 1: his spirits playing offensive line, you can do your best like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know he got beat or but you don't know
Speaker 1: the protections, you don't know what each guy's a simon
Speaker 1: is And I just I mean Connor and I said
Speaker 1: it at the top of the show. I don't think
Speaker 1: Zach and Travis played very well in that game, but
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not ready to say like that, is
Speaker 1: this just like blinking red light about why they're losing
Speaker 1: these games and they've got to do something drastic. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just not all the way there. I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'd rather they just stop trying to run into unfavorable looks,
Speaker 1: like how about they do that instead. I don't think
Speaker 1: we realized to have the importance of the Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: injury in that game. I mean, yeah, they lost the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think they lose the game if Cooper is
Speaker 1: not hurt, and I don't think it's really that close. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then let's I just think Amari Cooper being out for
Speaker 1: that particular game I think was a fourteen to seventeen
Speaker 1: point difference, that they probably win the game by two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I believe that. Okay, so let's take this. This is
Speaker 1: your next question. You set this up perfectly. Which player
Speaker 1: is more critical to the Cowboys offensive success? Mary Cooper
Speaker 1: or Tyron Smith. Honestly, the answer has been Tyron for years,
Speaker 1: and I feel stupid saying it's probably a Mari Cooper,
Speaker 1: but I think it probably is because who backed him.
Speaker 1: Up eleven. I mean you wind up trying to make
Speaker 1: it work with Michael Gallup, Cedric Wilson and Tavon Austin.
Speaker 1: I mean Tavon Austin was playing outside for a pretty
Speaker 1: big chunk of that game, and we saw the difference there.
Speaker 1: He can make some plays if he gets lined up right,
Speaker 1: and that's that's That's not really a knock on him.
Speaker 1: He's not really that type of guy. He's an inside
Speaker 1: guy that those guys make mistakes when they're out there
Speaker 1: that they're not lining up on the right spot cost
Speaker 1: them a big play in the game. I think when
Speaker 1: you're talking about drop offs between the starter and the backup,
Speaker 1: I think Amari Cooper to Cedric Wilson is a bigger
Speaker 1: drop off than Tyron Smith to Cam Fleming. As weird
Speaker 1: as that sounds, I'll go to my grave and it's
Speaker 1: just like, the offensive tackle play is not why they
Speaker 1: lost the Packers or the Jets. I'm not saying those
Speaker 1: guys played great. I mean, you know that there was
Speaker 1: a big dispute on Talking Cowboys yesterday about Dak getting
Speaker 1: hit like Dak took a lot of those shots, extending
Speaker 1: plays outside of the pocket, like It's not like he
Speaker 1: just had two, in particular two of the biggest hit
Speaker 1: tablet outside the pocket. Yeah, it's not like he had
Speaker 1: no time to throw and there were just got I mean,
Speaker 1: go watch at lant At twenty seventeen if you want
Speaker 1: to see what that looks like. I don't think this
Speaker 1: was that well. And again, sorry, but he saw the
Speaker 1: Jets do it all day, like, get the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hand faster, help your tackles. I don't like,
Speaker 1: you know, the old do what we do thing like.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys could be better at adjusting their
Speaker 1: play calls to suit who's on the field for them.
Speaker 1: But I think drop off in the passing game is
Speaker 1: pretty severe without Amari Cooper and especially I mean Michael Gallop.
Speaker 1: And you know, I gotta give Amber credit. She called
Speaker 1: out the receivers last week. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: justified based on what we had seen to that point,
Speaker 1: but it was an ironic twist of faith that the
Speaker 1: first time Gallup was called upon to be more without
Speaker 1: Cooper in there, he wasn't up to it, and that
Speaker 1: only kind of highlighted the problem. So if you told
Speaker 1: me I could have one of the two for this game.
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather have Cooper than tying me too, Yeah, adn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, And I think we've seen that, I mean,
Speaker 1: last year without Cooper and you get so excited and
Speaker 1: we see such great things from Gallop and he even
Speaker 1: said he's like, it's on me. He's in locker room
Speaker 1: yesterday he goes, I had three passes I should have
Speaker 1: had and I don't know what you do differently. He
Speaker 1: didn't really have an answer in terms of how you
Speaker 1: execute better. But there is a big drop off and
Speaker 1: he's the guy and he did not perform, and Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson did not set up the way he need to.
Speaker 1: We saw some good plays from Tavon, but there just
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. And if you know, if we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the injuries, I think that if if you
Speaker 1: had to tell me, you know, make a bet on
Speaker 1: which player is going to be able to play in
Speaker 1: the game, I would say Tyrant Smith over Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: Doesn't look like Amara he's gonna play. And I'm basing
Speaker 1: that off of the fact that he had no shot
Speaker 1: of coming back in that game, Like he wasn't trying,
Speaker 1: he wasn't he was just sitting there. I know he
Speaker 1: was in a lot of pain, but he was just
Speaker 1: sitting there. It wasn't close to coming back. I just
Speaker 1: have a hard time thinking then he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to be back for this game. Yeah with the
Speaker 1: bye week sitting there and doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't. I
Speaker 1: don't feel good about it on Tuesday. But real quick
Speaker 1: about that, we've seen this free years one of the
Speaker 1: bye weeks there. It's so much easier to just rest
Speaker 1: the guy one more game and knowing that that's there
Speaker 1: and they cannot do that. They if these guys are
Speaker 1: healthy to play, they got to play. It's the biggest
Speaker 1: game of the year. I will say this, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of their problems offensively originate on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the things we've seen, particularly
Speaker 1: in the last three games, have been issues at start
Speaker 1: at the offensive line. Other guys have their hand in,
Speaker 1: and but I think it starts with the offensive on
Speaker 1: The problem is and goes to what you guys are
Speaker 1: saying here. Last year, the Cowboys were not doing very
Speaker 1: well until they got Amari Cooper and then everything changed. Essentially,
Speaker 1: if you don't have Amari Cooper in this offense, you're
Speaker 1: going back to that this wide receiver by committee that's
Speaker 1: proven not to work with the current set of players.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's there yet. They looked a
Speaker 1: lot better in this game against the Jets than they
Speaker 1: did during those lean games before a Cooper got there.
Speaker 1: I differ. I disagree with that. I think I think offensively,
Speaker 1: particularly in the first set, like they were they were
Speaker 1: having a hard time getting any kind of rhythm going.
Speaker 1: It was because they didn't have reliable catches like there
Speaker 1: were there were opportunities there, but they didn't have anybody
Speaker 1: stepping up to make the player. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: they obviously didn't play well, but like it's a testament
Speaker 1: to how atrocious they were against Carolina in Seattle early
Speaker 1: last season. Like that looked better than what we saw
Speaker 1: in twenty eight. And I think both those teams probably
Speaker 1: I would guess, are a little bit better or a
Speaker 1: little bit better last year than what the Jets are
Speaker 1: this year. Why would deposit And I mean, based on
Speaker 1: what we've seen, I don't expect the Cowboys to take
Speaker 1: advantage of it, based on what we've seen in the
Speaker 1: last three weeks, But the Eagles might have the worst
Speaker 1: secondary in the league, and we can get into that.
Speaker 1: I'll see if they can. If the Cowboys can't take
Speaker 1: advantage of that, let's take our first break. We come back.
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Speaker 1: let's get back in. We got some questions. We got
Speaker 1: some other teams to get to before we get to
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, well that's I know. I'm just saying like,
Speaker 1: as you said that, I was like, Oh, that's just
Speaker 1: one more problem. That's just lingering out there. That'll be
Speaker 1: a problem we deal with later. Um. All right, so
Speaker 1: let's go back. Another question for you guys. This next
Speaker 1: question is what is the what has been the bigger
Speaker 1: defensive problem for this team? Pass rush coverage or run defense, Collie.
Speaker 1: The fact that that there's been a seven second pause
Speaker 1: tells you that everyone love thinking, Yeah, it's all of them,
Speaker 1: and then they all kind of got to pick one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say tackling, because if you have
Speaker 1: to fix one, if you have to fix, pick fix one.
Speaker 1: Which one do you think gives you the better chance
Speaker 1: to fix the others? Pass rush? Pass rush to me
Speaker 1: gives you you can I mean, if you get after
Speaker 1: his ass back there, then you can do a lot
Speaker 1: of things. Your coverage looks a lot even more than
Speaker 1: run defense has their coverage with the exception of this
Speaker 1: past game, like in the other five, was their coverage awful?
Speaker 1: I would say the last two. I would say in
Speaker 1: the last two they've probably had some issues in coverage.
Speaker 1: I mean green Bay they scored a lot of points
Speaker 1: in and some of that. I mean, they You're right,
Speaker 1: they didn't get just destroyed. I've just seen some and
Speaker 1: Rogers finished with two thirty eight and needed three or
Speaker 1: four really Rogers esque throws to make it happen. You know,
Speaker 1: I said it. I said it after that game. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's gonna happen when you play him asked
Speaker 1: the fricking pack the Lions about that. I mean, did
Speaker 1: you see him last night? Yeah. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I probably have a weird opinion about the secondary
Speaker 1: with regards to the Packards game is because they're pack
Speaker 1: They're tackling. Was also a part of the problem, yes,
Speaker 1: and so I think I'm kind of equating that just
Speaker 1: to the secondary in general. But you're right, from a
Speaker 1: PAS defense standpoint, that wasn't the issue of that game
Speaker 1: the first part. Cheeto Cheeto had a rough first half
Speaker 1: against DeVante Parker against the Dolphin, But in general, it
Speaker 1: has not been a week to week thing where I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this this still hasn't played up. I don't think Kedo
Speaker 1: has played up to expectations as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: Nobody Robert Quinn is the only guy who's maybe Malik
Speaker 1: Collins who's fitting that bill. I don't think the run
Speaker 1: defense has been to the point where it's the biggest problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the page of the Packers, they got after him, Aaron
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, you know, But I still think a lot
Speaker 1: of that had to do with with how they were
Speaker 1: trying to to, you know, try to get Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and the and the Packers have a great offensive line,
Speaker 1: and they caught him and they gassed him, and you know,
Speaker 1: and with with a big lead like that, they were
Speaker 1: able to keep running the ball. But I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, going up against Kamara, going up against
Speaker 1: Levon Bell, I think the run defense has been okay,
Speaker 1: not I think the biggest problem is the past rush.
Speaker 1: They're just not getting there the past rush. I don't
Speaker 1: think the run defense has been that good. All things
Speaker 1: across that are all all that good. Say Quan did
Speaker 1: his thing, They were really good against Kamara. Say Quan
Speaker 1: did his thing. The jet well what no, they I
Speaker 1: don't know what they haven't been that the pass rush.
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that sits here every week and defends
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence, and I don't think he deserves as
Speaker 1: much criticism as he's gotten. But man, all through training camp,
Speaker 1: you're talking about Lawrence, you're talking about Quinn, you're talking
Speaker 1: about Malik, and you know, we went on and on
Speaker 1: about how, you know, the guys that they cut off
Speaker 1: of this defensive line, we're going to be better than
Speaker 1: the guys playing on a lot of other teams, and
Speaker 1: it hasn't looked that way. I was singing that same thought.
Speaker 1: I was like, I've been sitting here saying Quinn, he
Speaker 1: doesn't need all this criticism. He's being double teamed. But
Speaker 1: at some point, I mean Lawrence, Lawrence, yeah, sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so but at this point, we're six games in.
Speaker 1: You have to find a way to start adjusting to
Speaker 1: that and finding a way to get things done. They've
Speaker 1: missed a healthy Tyrone Crawford. I mean he isn't he's
Speaker 1: not healthy, but they they've missed that, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think that him out there, he's one of those players.
Speaker 1: And I know the fans don't really you know, think
Speaker 1: he's all that good. But but the fact he is,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's maybe his contracts really you know, it
Speaker 1: used to be a really big contract. Now it's probably yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not even that crazy anymore. But but the fact
Speaker 1: that that he provides past rush and run stopping ability
Speaker 1: from the defensive end position is is I think in
Speaker 1: an underrated part of his game. It really is. And
Speaker 1: him not being healthy for these last you know, you
Speaker 1: just missed some games and then he's been back for
Speaker 1: two and hasn't really been very impactful. Um. I'm telling you, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you talked about calls that were missed.
Speaker 1: I mean that I talked to him yesterday. One of
Speaker 1: the biggest calls that that that ref's missed in that
Speaker 1: game was the fact that he got punched in the
Speaker 1: back of the head on a third down um or
Speaker 1: from the goal line. That would have been that would
Speaker 1: have really been a big play in the game. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny that guy must have not
Speaker 1: seen that video. And that's been because I mean, punching
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford in the head like that, it's not really
Speaker 1: the smart move, but whatever worked out worked out for
Speaker 1: him for that time. He I mean right in the
Speaker 1: middle of everybody. I mean, I saw it. I said
Speaker 1: it to you and and I saw it on the replay.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, yeah, I will say
Speaker 1: which I guess the way you worded the question doesn't
Speaker 1: afford me to give this answer. But even having just
Speaker 1: said what I said about the pass rush, like, if
Speaker 1: you could pick anything to be disappointed about in terms
Speaker 1: of preseason expectations, and right now, it's probably the play
Speaker 1: of Layton vander esh and Jaalin Smith. Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that. I got a question for on that.
Speaker 1: I'm kind a question for you on that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to this next question. Though this may take
Speaker 1: the rest of the show, so feel free to go
Speaker 1: as long as you want on this so far, How
Speaker 1: does Kellen Moore's offense compare to Scott len hands better, worse?
Speaker 1: The same which game we're talking about, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the season as all of all of them pull it
Speaker 1: all together, It's still better. It's still better at number
Speaker 1: one in the league going into this game. I mean
Speaker 1: it still probably is because again, like they had, they
Speaker 1: put up four hundred yards of offense in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's And that's kind that goes back to
Speaker 1: my point is like throw on the tape of the
Speaker 1: first Seattle game last year or the season opener against
Speaker 1: Carolina if you need a refresher of just how bad
Speaker 1: it was, Because I promise now. But MARII Cooper. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the thing about it is is we talked about
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper being so much, you know, helping this offense
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, I think you have to look
Speaker 1: at the last eight games for Scott Lanahan in the
Speaker 1: first you know, let's say eight games, when when he
Speaker 1: gets eight games and then and then kind of look
Speaker 1: at it, I think it's closer to the same. I like,
Speaker 1: I like this offense better though, I think just because
Speaker 1: I think he's got a better quarterback than he had
Speaker 1: last year. I mean just I think Dak is just
Speaker 1: improving to the point I think he's better. I think
Speaker 1: this he's getting a little bit more production out of
Speaker 1: the tight end spot this year because Witten, you know,
Speaker 1: Witten's not what he was, but he's still you know,
Speaker 1: he's still out there, he's still making some plays. And
Speaker 1: I just think they're they're a little bit better. But
Speaker 1: the red zone numbers what what? What is the red
Speaker 1: zone they it's been cut in half since the losing
Speaker 1: streaks started, Like they were insane in the red zone
Speaker 1: and it's honestly, which good question. I'm still I'm still
Speaker 1: annoyed by the whole well, Garrett's telling Kellen Moore what
Speaker 1: to do thing, and we kind of talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 1: There's there's no way to know that, but and it
Speaker 1: cropped up after the Saints game. It sort of it
Speaker 1: wasn't really talked about last week or the Packers week
Speaker 1: because the game got out of hand. But like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, how different has it looked to you in
Speaker 1: these let's just say Jets and Saints, Like, how different
Speaker 1: has it looked to you from what they were trying
Speaker 1: to do, Because like all the fun stuff we saw
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks has felt lacking. And I
Speaker 1: wonder if I wonder if some of that is because
Speaker 1: the games got away from them. I wonder if some
Speaker 1: of that is against lesser opponents, maybe they feel freer
Speaker 1: to try different things than against really good teams that
Speaker 1: they feel like, hey, every possession matters, so we gotta
Speaker 1: be more conservative. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: you're right, it feels to me, at least, it feels
Speaker 1: like the way that they call the first three games
Speaker 1: it's different than the way they call it the last three.
Speaker 1: I want I want to point this out too. I
Speaker 1: hear this a lot about well you know, the score,
Speaker 1: you know, was kind of they were behind the eight
Speaker 1: ball there, the game got away from them. Whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: they're getting down seventeen. He had to change. Just remember
Speaker 1: that one of the reasons why the game got away
Speaker 1: from him any team is because of the offense. You know,
Speaker 1: like I think we forget that a lot. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: they got down by seventeen. They got down to seventeen
Speaker 1: because he didn't do anything in the first quarter or
Speaker 1: for you know, so the Packer game got away from
Speaker 1: them because they couldn't do anything. They were you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand why things changed, but the first
Speaker 1: part of the game and some of the Jets Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they're the reason why the game is getting away from them.
Speaker 1: I agree with you in general principle. I think in
Speaker 1: this game it was a bit different because the decisions
Speaker 1: they made before the game, particularly with the wide receiver
Speaker 1: position and who was active and inactive. That became apparent
Speaker 1: very quickly because Amari goes out quick. And now, as
Speaker 1: they talked about after the game, now they're running twelve
Speaker 1: personnel a lot more than they probably would have gone
Speaker 1: into that game expecting they would, and that does change
Speaker 1: things when you now have two tight ends on the
Speaker 1: field as opposed to three wide receivers. That drastically changes
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with your offense. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you generally, Yes, that's the case. But I think
Speaker 1: it changed so much with Mari going out this game.
Speaker 1: I think it really left him in a really bad situation.
Speaker 1: For the record, Jason Garrett said yesterday that they really
Speaker 1: they weren't anticipating that that was something that they were
Speaker 1: going to have to deal with, Like they you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't put him somebody's injury. Yeah, Mars. They didn't
Speaker 1: put Devin Smith down thinking that a Mark Cooper might
Speaker 1: only get a handful of plays. And if they, I
Speaker 1: would have suspect they would have known that it would
Speaker 1: have because completely different. But they didn't, Right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that that's sorry, That's that's a good point. I mean,
Speaker 1: they ran a crazy amount of twelve personnel, but I
Speaker 1: mean Marie Cooper, no, Marie Cooper seventeen runs on first
Speaker 1: down out of twenty four opportunities. Yeah, bothers me. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our final break, We're gonna
Speaker 1: come back, and I'm gonna ask this question to our panel.
Speaker 1: Should Sean Lee or Joe Thomas be starting over Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith and or Layton vander Esch. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 1: At the start, we're doing a big picture Tuesday. We
Speaker 1: got lots of questions flowing at These guys are giving
Speaker 1: me some good answers. Here, I got one that's gonna
Speaker 1: really start the pot a little bit. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Should Sean Lee or Joe thom Must
Speaker 1: be starting over Jalen Smith and or Layton Vandersche. Let's
Speaker 1: start with you, Danny. What do your opinions are? I
Speaker 1: think at this point I would start Lee. I would
Speaker 1: I think we haven't seen any one. That is the
Speaker 1: key part. Yeah, that sounds good. Now now one let's
Speaker 1: go well he was starting over Laton at the beginning
Speaker 1: of last year. Anyway, Yeah, I just okay, you haven't
Speaker 1: You haven't seen enough of them and your best linebacker
Speaker 1: when they're on the field, shn Lee? Okay, whose second
Speaker 1: i'd want? Fifty five? I think it's Layton. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Layton's at some moments when it wasn't isn't great,
Speaker 1: But I think he's had more good moments than Jaylen
Speaker 1: Ass personally. See this is where the whole You know,
Speaker 1: they love to tell you the NFL's like a meritocracy,
Speaker 1: but it's not always true true, and you know that's
Speaker 1: not true. Is Jason Garrett really gonna risk whatever comes
Speaker 1: with benching a defensive captain who's, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the de facto leaders of the Hot Boys and is
Speaker 1: kind of one of the public faces of this defense.
Speaker 1: I don't really buy it. I will say this though,
Speaker 1: the way that they play those guys, they don't necessarily
Speaker 1: have to bench him. They can just start and they
Speaker 1: can keep the starters the way they are and they
Speaker 1: just start playing and they can do They've well, they've
Speaker 1: already done it like we I mean, you know, Jalen
Speaker 1: has gotten taken out for series throughout play accounts like
Speaker 1: how many plays they're each getting. I can pull up
Speaker 1: the packet. I haven't looked at it. If Smith Smith
Speaker 1: got benched, it would set the NFL record for fewest
Speaker 1: days between press conference and demoded. That's another thing too,
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, don't you think, no doubt it would
Speaker 1: definitely be It would be headline news. But I'm right now,
Speaker 1: when you're on a three game skid. I think you're
Speaker 1: way more concerned about getting wins than all the extra
Speaker 1: stuff around it, in my opinion. Yeah, and if you
Speaker 1: feel like there's a player that's not getting that is
Speaker 1: playing well, okay, and a player that's not playing as well,
Speaker 1: I think that all things are fair game. Okay. Here's
Speaker 1: another thing. Ezekiel Elliott great running back, right, What if
Speaker 1: you put him at wide receiver? Would he be great? No,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's a running back, So quit trying to
Speaker 1: make Jalen Smith a defensive tackle and rush him against
Speaker 1: the guard. That's not what he does. He's a linebacker
Speaker 1: that needs to he's he needs those big boys up
Speaker 1: front so he can run around. He's not one of them.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he needs to be playing on
Speaker 1: the defensive line and trying to rush and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, put him in position where he can do
Speaker 1: he can sort of rush off the edge a little bit.
Speaker 1: But it's got two saxes, you're right, I mean one
Speaker 1: of them. Um. I'm not saying he wasn't a big play,
Speaker 1: but I mean Carrie Hyder had Bridgewater out and he
Speaker 1: kind of cleaned it up. But but him against the
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. I don't like that play at all. I
Speaker 1: don't like I don't like those little guys up there
Speaker 1: because because that's not where mismatches are. You know, I
Speaker 1: mean you don't. You don't. You can run a forty
Speaker 1: yard dash and you can beat a guard all day,
Speaker 1: but when you're right there in space, they get their
Speaker 1: hands on him, they can't do anything. But I'm in
Speaker 1: a place to be successful. I'd be more in favor.
Speaker 1: I guess of more rotation and put Shawn Lee in there,
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, Jalen is playing eighty six percent of
Speaker 1: the snaps right now. Layton's at ninety, Shawn Lee's at
Speaker 1: thirty five, Joe Thomas is at twenty one. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: up in that on Sean quite a bit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Sean played even a little but well, so they played
Speaker 1: sixty two defensive snaps against the Jets. Sean played thirty seven,
Speaker 1: so he's up closer to fifty fifty percent. Jalen played
Speaker 1: forty nine, which I can't do that math in my
Speaker 1: head because I'm dumb, But forty nine out of sixty
Speaker 1: two here I have a cvity that's boom. Look at
Speaker 1: seventy nine that's gonna say it close to eighty. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we go, oh, oh are you? I mean, first, I
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of feel the same way, honestly,
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe I'm just I don't know, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: being an apologist, like i'd honestly, I'd rather just let
Speaker 1: him play through it, like you know baseball. You think
Speaker 1: they're going to play through it? Yes, I do. There,
Speaker 1: I mean what you're saying. Jerry Jones's thing is always
Speaker 1: it's like if you've seen a guy do it once,
Speaker 1: you know he can do it. But I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: get how to play football. You guys have watched him play.
Speaker 1: You can say that about showing no and that's true.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with giving him more snaps.
Speaker 1: I'm just I wouldn't quote. They used to say this
Speaker 1: all the time about linebackers. You have three to play
Speaker 1: two spots. Maybe it's you know, four to have two
Speaker 1: spots now, But but maybe that's what they need to do.
Speaker 1: They don't just need to like call press conference and
Speaker 1: just bench the guys, but just rotating defensively do it.
Speaker 1: I paid twenty one million a year for DeMarcus you know, Lawrence,
Speaker 1: and he rotates with Kerry Hyders no matter the down
Speaker 1: like down distanced. That's what they need to do. That's
Speaker 1: that is like you're not gonna bench anybody because of
Speaker 1: all the ramifications and and you know, keeping team morale,
Speaker 1: but you rotate them more if you want to. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee is a great player. He's played like he's deserving.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that, but like I'm
Speaker 1: not benching people. And on top of that, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, they're they're good players. And when a you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Trout doesn't have slumps because he's incredible, but like
Speaker 1: if he did baseball, you just keep You're just like
Speaker 1: just keep getting up there and you'll work through it.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what's important mentally. Yeah, yeah, And I
Speaker 1: agree with you generally, and I actually think that applies
Speaker 1: a little more for Layton in my opinion. But I'll
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, what have you seen from Jalen Because
Speaker 1: I know Nick, you and I have talked about in
Speaker 1: the press box. Sarah plays he just doesn't look right,
Speaker 1: and he looks like he's lumbering out there. That way,
Speaker 1: he agree with you, he is lumbering out there, and
Speaker 1: so my question becomes, is that just my mind planing
Speaker 1: tricks on me, or is this a situation where they're
Speaker 1: legitimately like, that's who he is and that's who he's
Speaker 1: gonna be. And because of that, it's not it's not
Speaker 1: that he's getting worse or getting better. It's just that
Speaker 1: that's who he is. There's certain things he is limited
Speaker 1: in what he can do, and he wasn't that guy
Speaker 1: last year unless in which you know, and Nick has
Speaker 1: made this point before, like he looks rough in the
Speaker 1: open field trying to tackle like wide receivers, but again,
Speaker 1: he's a linebacker most linebackers. It's even it's even moving
Speaker 1: in space, Like you get him down field where he's
Speaker 1: having to chase a running back and he's having to
Speaker 1: do it laterally. He doesn't look right. He doesn't look fluid.
Speaker 1: And that's the part I'm more concerned about. He's made
Speaker 1: some freaky plays moving laterally in the past, like again
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson one and the album Kmara one from
Speaker 1: last year come to mind. Have you have you seen
Speaker 1: those this year? Um? I would bet I know. Layton
Speaker 1: made one on Kimara this year that was really impressive.
Speaker 1: Nothing springs to my mind. But I would bet there's
Speaker 1: more there if I went back and looked at it,
Speaker 1: not not that it's can you give me a study place? Yeah, Look,
Speaker 1: eleven tackles in a row three straight games. I mean
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good number right there, you know eleven. Uh,
Speaker 1: he had three last week though, and and that that's concerning,
Speaker 1: and he knows he had a bad game, that that
Speaker 1: was a bad game for him. Yeah, yeah, I absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm fine putting Sean on the field more. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it doesn't need to be this big ceremonial process
Speaker 1: of like benching somebody. Yeah, we don't. We don't sit
Speaker 1: there and call out you know. Well sort of, I
Speaker 1: guess the Marcus Lawrence, you know, I mean for how
Speaker 1: they rotate those guys. But um, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just interesting because you don't want to put money involved,
Speaker 1: but but it is sort of you know. And and
Speaker 1: they they made the decision to make this guy way
Speaker 1: more paid than any of these other defensive ends. But
Speaker 1: yet Rod Marinelli still plays them the same way, you know,
Speaker 1: And you would like to think that the guy making
Speaker 1: twenty one million the year over the guy making six
Speaker 1: hundred thousand shouldn't be rotating, you know, snaps like that.
Speaker 1: All right, real quick, we're gonna get a phone call.
Speaker 1: We got a call from Rob Out in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Rob what up? Hey, guys, just looking at the offense
Speaker 1: real quick. I think a couple of things. One. I
Speaker 1: think Zeek now has turned into a grinder and not
Speaker 1: a home run hitter, and I think that affects this team.
Speaker 1: I think they're missing Beasley. I think Colb is not
Speaker 1: as good as Beasley for what they want to move
Speaker 1: to change. Beasley's got better hands, and I just think
Speaker 1: he's better at that. I think I think whiteness. I
Speaker 1: think they would have been better which are and he
Speaker 1: could stretch the field, especially the middle. I like Witt
Speaker 1: and the old Man, but he's just too slow and defensively.
Speaker 1: Nick's been talking about this for years. The reason why
Speaker 1: I felt you need some big sack lineman is to
Speaker 1: protect your sports car linebackers. Jaylen Smith and Van the
Speaker 1: rest are not trucks. They have sports cars. They run sideline.
Speaker 1: The sideline teams now realize we'll just run out of them,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they've ever recovered from getting run
Speaker 1: over against the rams and the playoffs. They look like
Speaker 1: boxers who took up beatings and they don't want the contact.
Speaker 1: The one thing about Sean Lee, I know he gets hurt,
Speaker 1: but he will attack the whole and he will come
Speaker 1: up and hit him. So will Joe Thomas. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: not going to bench these guys. You know that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna bench a guy just hate Jaalen Smith and
Speaker 1: Van der esh is their their future? They just won't.
Speaker 1: But I agree, I would like to see Sean Lee
Speaker 1: on the field more, but this team doesn't really do that.
Speaker 1: And let's and for one more thing, Xavier Woods and
Speaker 1: Malie Collins. We fall into the trap every preseason. We
Speaker 1: fall in love with training camp guys we hit, they
Speaker 1: look so good, and we just have to realize that
Speaker 1: that's stake football. You know, that's that's not real football.
Speaker 1: We've seen it for years. And these guys get on
Speaker 1: the field and they're just guys that they're nothing special,
Speaker 1: and that's that's just hurt this team. All right, Thanks
Speaker 1: for the call, O. The scary part about that call
Speaker 1: is that I'm I'm not sure he's wrong about anything.
Speaker 1: That's what's scary. I'm not sure I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. I don't like calling MALIEK. Collins just
Speaker 1: a guy, I think, but MALIEK. Collins, which we I
Speaker 1: talked about this a week or two ago, is like
Speaker 1: at training camp, what do you see, Like you see
Speaker 1: the ability to rush the passer, and he is good
Speaker 1: at that. He's been good at it this year in
Speaker 1: my opinion, fake football, though, Well it is, and you
Speaker 1: don't see the run defense aspect of it. You don't
Speaker 1: see that, and they haven't been good at that. And
Speaker 1: you know, Rod Marinelli values these undersized defensive tackles who
Speaker 1: can get up field. It hasn't looked great against the run.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a very good point when it
Speaker 1: comes to why Layton and Jalen might not be playing better.
Speaker 1: It would be great if the defensive tackle they drafted
Speaker 1: was good enough to get a game. Jersey. I don't
Speaker 1: think that makes Tristan Hill a bust, but it's certainly
Speaker 1: disappointing that a guy you drafted in the top sixty
Speaker 1: isn't good enough to be playing like it. Is absolutely disappointed.
Speaker 1: And then you take that part and then you go
Speaker 1: with the party. He said about Xavier Woods kind of
Speaker 1: being a guy, and then you realize that they took
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill over a guy Juan Thornhill, who's playing really
Speaker 1: well for the Chiefs right now, getting interceptions and making
Speaker 1: some plays. And then you couple that with the fact
Speaker 1: that Xavier Woods is just kind of just playing okay,
Speaker 1: and you have to go no farther than this last
Speaker 1: week to see what a great safety can do to
Speaker 1: change games. And the Cowboys don't have a plus safety
Speaker 1: right now that I at any level even close to that.
Speaker 1: That guy reminded me of I hate saying this because
Speaker 1: this guy's Hall of Famer, but he reminded me of
Speaker 1: Troy Polam because every time I watched the Steelers play,
Speaker 1: if it was a blitz, he was there right there
Speaker 1: or right on the last scrimage. But then when it
Speaker 1: was a deep ball, he was back there like everywhere.
Speaker 1: He just guessed right, and an instincts allow you to
Speaker 1: do that. And I thought Jamal Adams was everywhere in
Speaker 1: that game. I told you trade for him. The other
Speaker 1: part I don't necessarily agree with from now, we would
Speaker 1: before the game, so you don't take the light. The
Speaker 1: other part of the uncle I don't necessarily agree with
Speaker 1: was the Beasley and Cobb. Yeah, by having Cobb, I
Speaker 1: think Cobb is much better for yards after catch. I
Speaker 1: think still stronger would disagree. Really, Beasley is a better player,
Speaker 1: I honestly don't be a better player for what you're
Speaker 1: trying to do with with Cooper and Gallop now able
Speaker 1: to kind of stretch a little bit more than than
Speaker 1: you ever had, and they're versatile. I think the move
Speaker 1: the chains guy is better. Yeah, Cobb can stretch it, okay,
Speaker 1: but when when? But there were a lot of games.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of games over his career I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Cole, a lot of games where he didn't
Speaker 1: show up, couldn't get open. So you tell me, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a move the chains guy, but he's not always
Speaker 1: getting open. He's not and making play. So I still don't.
Speaker 1: I still believe that they are about the same player
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of them being able to get open
Speaker 1: catch the ball. I do think the Cobb adds an
Speaker 1: additional dimension that Beasley doesn't necessarily add from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of being able to get down field and if he
Speaker 1: needs to playing outside a little bit by being at
Speaker 1: route runner inside, and I think that then playing with
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and Gallup and the fact that they are
Speaker 1: better route runners than anyone the Cowboys have ever had.
Speaker 1: We know, Terrence Williams and Dez We're not the best
Speaker 1: at route running. So I think you've got two legitimate
Speaker 1: outside threats at receiver that can do everything. I think
Speaker 1: Beasley I mean, but that again, the money wasn't just
Speaker 1: about to say change it up. Now, Let's ask that
Speaker 1: question for one year five million and then he I mean,
Speaker 1: Beasley was making seven in or eight and it's on
Speaker 1: a malt I mean, yea, yeah, I wasn't the same
Speaker 1: from their standpoint. It's on which cop. First of all,
Speaker 1: Cop wasn't healthy, Cob has had drops and him and
Speaker 1: Dak haven't been able to get on the same page.
Speaker 1: But like more than anything, like just Callen Moore Scotland,
Speaker 1: and like why why can't the Cowboys get more than
Speaker 1: like two wide receivers in Jason Witten involved in their offense?
Speaker 1: Like why does that seem like such a cool Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin and Cedric Wilson did it out of necessity, but
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is just collecting dust somewhere on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Tavon's an afterthought until somebody gets hurt. Jarwin. Haven't really
Speaker 1: seen him utilized much outside of going down the seam
Speaker 1: where it works, by the way, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: like they don't know how to manufacture touches for anybody
Speaker 1: other than the obvious three. So Cobb's role has been
Speaker 1: disappointing to that point. I don't know how much I
Speaker 1: put on put that on Cobb schemes some stuff up
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, let me say this too, about Whitten
Speaker 1: and Jarwin, I don't know if I mean, yes, one's
Speaker 1: way more athletic than the other, I get that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know right now about the blocking, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as being on the field as much. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Witten has been the best at blocking, and
Speaker 1: he you know, he's had some penalties and things like
Speaker 1: that too, But I don't think Jarwin's, you know, this
Speaker 1: great blocker either. So I don't know. If you just
Speaker 1: said Jarwin needs to play over Witten, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what happens there. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: we need to ask that question. It's no, you're right,
Speaker 1: but Jimmy m has been a terrible blocker his entire career,
Speaker 1: and and he's he's way on. He's not what he
Speaker 1: used to be. I get that. But you can figure
Speaker 1: out ways to use guy's skill sets to their advantages.
Speaker 1: And don't ask a bad blocker to block. Send him
Speaker 1: down the seam where he'll catch it twenty five yards
Speaker 1: downfield and set you up on the goal line linebacker
Speaker 1: or safety with him. So he still has some value, right,
Speaker 1: he still helps. It's it's like it's very paint by
Speaker 1: numbers to me where there It's like, we have this
Speaker 1: situation where we will use this guy and it's just
Speaker 1: very by numbers. I like how you put it feels
Speaker 1: very black and white and and and boring and and
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. Average three and
Speaker 1: three three three and three. All right, guys, appreciate you
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