1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It was a weekend of shootings. Oh well, the big 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: one of course, Saturday afternoon in Buffalo, New York, when 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old wearing body armor live streaming with 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: a helmet camera opened fire in a grocery score store 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: called Tops Friendly Market in a predominantly black neighborhood of Buffalo, 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: New York. Aaron Koturski, ABC News is in Buffalo with 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: more on the story. That what we know today, Aaron, 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: what's the latest. Well, I'm looking at the market now. 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: It's it's still a crime scene. FBI technicians and their 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: blue booties have been going in and out all day 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: trying to process what authorities say. Guys. Is a pretty 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: grim scene, as you might imagine, with ten people dead. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Three of them were shot in the parking lot here, 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: and then the shooter moved inside shot two more before 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: he was confronted with a security guard who opened fire 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: on him, but to no avail because he was wearing 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: body armor, shot a security guard and then continued the 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: rampage inside while people were running through the deli to 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: get out. Another guy hid in a freezer to try 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: and avoid the gunfire. Just harrowing, harrowing stuff. And now 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: you know, the familiar sidewalk vigils have cropped up, and 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: remarkably a number of nonprofits have been out here all 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: day through the rain giving out food to the community 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: because until this market opened there was not a grocery 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: store in this in this part of town, so it 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: was a real food desert, and with the clothes continues 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: to be so the nonprofit groups were stepping in. But 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: we've learned an awful lot today about this attack and 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: the alleged shooter, Peyton Gendron, eighteen years old from three 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: hours away near Binghamton, New York, who planned this for 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: at least two months. And uh, what's the evidence of 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: the plan? Did he talk public? But he did? Yeah, 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: it's all online and not all of its public. Some 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: of it is in um uh discord is is one 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: platform where where you know, there have to be certain 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's limited to certain users, I mean a 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: lot of them. But but but it is limited. But 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: a lot of this was publicly available to anybody who 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: really wanted to look, and those who wanted to look 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: will mainly be abowed white supremacist. But that he was 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: allegedly communicating, you know, you hear the usual cries from 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: politicians and people in the media, we've got to do 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: something to stop, you know, these racist attacks, the shootings, 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: and in this case, and just correct me if I'm wrong. 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: This guy made some kind of threat to his school 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: not too long ago, and he went underwent a mental 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: evaluation and he showed up at school one day wearing 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: a complete hazmat suit, and online he was talking about 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: some kind of racial violence. Now with those four big 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: clues and everybody vowing to fight as anybody suggested, truly 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: acting on all that evidence that was already out there, 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, in a way it was acted. On last June, 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: he was assigned a paper for his high school about 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: his plans for after graduation, and in that paper he 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: wrote murder suicide. That earned a visit from the New 56 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: York State Police. The police held him for a day 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: and a half for a mental health evaluation, and then 58 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: he was released. That the threat we're told was was vague, 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't specific, and it was general enough that you know, 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: there was nothing more that law enforcement could really do. 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I know. It's just it's funny how many of these 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: shootings start out start out that way, and then the 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: experts at the end and say well, you know, there's 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: nothing we could do. It was vague. It was like, 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: well then what can you do? I mean, it is 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: a glaring sign. Normal people don't write that stuff. So 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: if you want to fight, you know, the racist shootings, 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: you got to take a step. The first time or 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: the second, third, fourth time, it's clear that the guy 70 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: is unhinged. And if you don't, and this is where 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: you're going to get Yeah, and you know, New York 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: does have a red flag law where if law enforcement 73 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: or the school or relatives had applied to a court 74 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: flagged it to a court, the court could have made 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: a determination that this guy was a danger to himself 76 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: for others and prevented him from buying firearms or seized 77 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: ones that he had. And instead that didn't happen, so 78 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: without any criminal charges that resulted from this earlier incident, 79 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: months later, he's able to go into a gun shop 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: and legally purchase the semi automatic rifle that was allegedly 81 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: used in the shooting here. And we don't know how 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: many people saw this hundred and eighty page document where 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: he lays out what he wants to do. It doesn't 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: seem like that many actually viewed it, because it's just 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: it's not on mainstream sites. There were posts on more 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: mainstream sites, but again we don't know that whether law 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: enforcement is monitoring all these sites or whether they should. 88 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: And again they've described the slippery slope of policing speech, 89 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: but the plans were all there, and in fact, in 90 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: that one hundred eighty page document, he talks about surveilling 91 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: the store, going into the store. We've learned he was 92 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: here in March, here in Buffalo case in the place, 93 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: understanding the movements of the security guard. So this had 94 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: been in his head for a couple of months, and 95 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: it seems like he was radicalized, we've learned today during 96 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: the pandemic, you know, this period of isolation and increasingly 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: seems to have spent an inordinate amount of time on 98 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: the internet, consuming all of this white supremacist rhetoric and 99 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, and increasingly the posts gradually become more violent. 100 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: And of course the other question and Aaron to live 101 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: with his parents and what did they know? Yeah, and 102 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: that's where we've been trying to get answers, and it's 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: just not clear. We know the authorities have spoken to 104 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: the parents, they have not been charged, and authorities have 105 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: not commented on whether they, you know, should be or 106 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: could be. It's just not clear. But they obviously knew 107 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: about the June incident um and you know what their 108 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: relationship is like or what the circumstances are in that 109 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: family just haven't been made clear. And apparently he wanted 110 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: to go on in the attack other places in the neighborhood. 111 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: This was part of the one hundred eighty page document 112 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: and police revealed the to us this morning after he 113 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: made excuse me, and he made it through the the 114 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: market here. His plan was to drive out of the 115 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: parking lot and continue down Jefferson Avenue where I'm standing, 116 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: and along the way he had a shotgun in the car, 117 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: and police said that the intention was to take the 118 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: shotgun and fire at any black person that he saw 119 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: along his way. And he had another store in mind 120 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that he had previously checked out where he thought he 121 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: could kill even more black people. All right, ered, we 122 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: appreciate your report. Thank you very much. Good to hear you, fellas. 123 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Thanks all right, all right. Aaron Katurski in Buffalo, New York, 124 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: where a man killed ten people inside a supermarket on 125 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, but you see, everybody says, we've got to 126 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: do something, We've got to do something. They actually had 127 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: this guy undergone a mental health evaluation. Who was the 128 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: person or the group of professionals that did the evaluation, 129 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: and they decided after a day and a half. He was, Okay, 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I just what I'm saying you. There are ways to 131 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: see this coming. Clearly, you know, a ten year old 132 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: could see this coming. And when you actually have the 133 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: guy in the office and he's got public threats and 134 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: he's wearing a hazmat suit and he's wrote down he 135 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: wants his goals were murder suicide? What else do you need? 136 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: If you don't do something for this guy, then who 137 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: are you going to do it for? Or is it 138 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: just really cheap and easy to go online or go 139 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: on TV and say we must do what we can. Well, yeah, 140 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: so you don't have to change the laws, then that 141 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: you should then change somebody for longer periods before they've 142 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: carried out an act, then change the laws. But it 143 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: seems to me a guy who's promising a murder suicide 144 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: and it shows up wearing a hazmat suit, making a threat, 145 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: writing and send everything's online, that's that's that's your evidence. 146 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: You're not going to get better evidence than that there 147 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: just right there. So you got to design some kind 148 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: of procedure to address that evidence. Because it's the same 149 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: arc of the story every time, and everybody preens and 150 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: virtue signals after it happened. We've got to do. Well, 151 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: here's what you've got to do. Here's your evidence that 152 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: takes some action. Put this guy in a mental hospital 153 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: for a good long time. I don't know what else 154 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: to say, Otherwise you're just gonna keep getting these things. 155 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: That's why I asked about the parents. My point is 156 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: always the same. We need family members and people closer 157 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: to the person that wants to kill people to turn 158 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: them in. Who who saw this document? I was Aaron said, 159 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe nobody. It was found, you know after the shooting eight. 160 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: But if anybody saw that and didn't learn anybody, oh 161 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: they ought to be charged too. Okay, But when he 162 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: was given the mental health evaluation, isn't that the time 163 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: to go and do an internet search and look at 164 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: all the white supremacist sites he's connected to, all these 165 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: weird bulletin boards that he's communicating on and posting all 166 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: a year ago May not have been as radicalized as 167 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: he was the last few months. But go find that out, 168 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Go find that line. I'm leading a story now that 169 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: apparently just a few months. For the last few months, 170 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: he's been online spouting in chat rooms about his racist plotting. 171 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: But you could find out. I bet he started reading 172 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: this stuff. Oh, I know, you could find see if 173 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: you wanted to really do work. But they don't do work. 174 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: And the mental health professionals who let the guy out 175 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: of the office, all right, it's all okay by me. Well, yeah, 176 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: they made that one, didn't they. Yeah, don't they always though, 177 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: don't we talk to him? It's just a frustrated kid. 178 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: It's all right, isn't at local police? You know, they've 179 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: gone and interviewed him. An FBI agent had done a 180 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: preliminary investigation. It's always the same preamble, they always miss, 181 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: I suggest, and then or do you want us to 182 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: do when we come back. Not only did he surveil 183 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: the area looking for the particular grocery store he was 184 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: going to attack, he was there the day before and 185 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: a bizarre encounter that several people told news reporters about. 186 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Is all coming up next? All right? Coming up? After 187 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: two thirty. Well, fill you in on the other shooting, 188 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: although they were several over the weekend, but the one 189 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: here locally in Orange County at a church. They held 190 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the news conference just a couple of hours ago to 191 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: give an update on the person involved in that shooting, 192 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: which left one dead and five people critically or wounded. 193 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to that after the news At two thirty. 194 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: The day before, this eighteen year old in New York 195 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: State by the name of Peyton Gendren killed ten people 196 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: inside that supermarket in Buffalo, New York. The store manager 197 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: says she kicked him out of the grocery store. She 198 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: described how he had been panhandling outside the store on Friday, 199 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: wearing the same camouflage outfit he wore when he opened 200 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: fire the next day. When he came inside a few 201 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: hours later, he continued to badge your customers. She asked 202 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: him to leave, and he did so without incident. She said, 203 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to stand outside. She saw him 204 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: again the very next day when he was wearing the 205 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: same camouflage outbit, but this time she noticed the weapon. 206 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: There's another person that said that he had an encounter 207 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: with Gendren. He apparently asked him about his T shirt. 208 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: This is Grady Lewis, a fifty year old who is 209 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: a shopper at the store. He had a ninety minute 210 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: conversation with them. You imagine he saw him wearing a 211 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: T shirt which said genius. So he just started talking 212 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: to him for an hour and a half. Some people 213 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: enjoy that. You know, the line I always make is 214 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: when the Jehovah's witnessed knock on the doors and people 215 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: run away, there's other people open the door and they 216 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: want to get involved in one of these philosophical religious discussions, 217 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: they just do the next thing, you know, you're in. 218 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: You're in the church. He told the journal that they 219 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: talked about a bunch of things this is the Wall 220 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Street Journal, including critical race theory and Gendren's somewhat unusual 221 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: wish to build a time machine. He said. The gender 222 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: in avoided eye contact and kept looking at his phone. 223 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Danny Act actually asked Lewis, who is a black man? 224 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: Are you going to be here tomorrow? That's that's kind 225 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: of creepy. Yeah, that's when he came and shot up 226 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: the place. Well, you know, this guy's eighteen, so he's 227 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: born around two thousand and four. Right, can you imagine 228 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: how many diversity and inclusion and equity classes he went 229 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: through in high school? We didn't work. Yeah, that's my 230 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: whole point. There's always going to be these guys, and 231 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: everybody spends a lot of time on well, if we 232 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: just indoctrinate people to understand diversity, equity and inclusion, you know, 233 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: if we just fight against this kind of thing, it's like, well, no, 234 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: not as long as the internet's around, that's going to 235 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: be available forever, forever. There's no way to get that off. Also, 236 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: you know the guns, Well, the guns are going to 237 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: be around forever, all right, So there's two things you're 238 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: not going to fix. You're not going to fix the 239 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: supply of wacko philosophies, right. You're also not going to 240 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: ever get rid of the supply of guns. So you 241 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: have to focus on the mental stability of individuals who 242 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: get attracted to guns and crazy ideologies. And that's why 243 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I was harping on. Okay, he showed enough signs that 244 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: they send him into a mental health evaluation. That's your 245 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: shot there. If you don't do that, a certain percentage 246 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: of the time, the guy is going to go and 247 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: do a mass shooting. That's just the way it works. 248 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: But everybody is blowing a lot of hot air about 249 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: the same old, same old, same old that we've heard 250 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: a million times. It doesn't stop these guys. They don't care. 251 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: They don't care what they have whatever, anger, evil, mental instability, 252 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: it's a big stew in their heads. They have an 253 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: obsession of compulsion. They can't stop thinking about it. They 254 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: even do rehearsals, they even show up in case out 255 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: the store, They even pretend they're a homeless person for 256 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: a day just to get the vibe right. So this guy, 257 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: you had the one chance. Those people who let him go, 258 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: they should be investigated, They should be publicized in question. 259 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: If what that kid was showing that led to the 260 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: evaluation didn't get him committed, then you will never stop 261 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: these things. But you know, I guess there's a lot 262 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: of money for your nonprofit to constantly raise issues and 263 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: make demands. You have to execute when you have the chance. 264 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: You have to actually do something to the kid. And 265 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: nobody did. Yeah, including the parents. But you know, I've 266 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: given up on parents. These guys always had parents. Most 267 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: of them had their heads up their asses. He was 268 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: seventeen at the time of that evaluation. I wonder if 269 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: being an underaged youth worked in his favor, because he 270 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: bought this R fifteen style rifle at a store in Endicott, 271 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: New York too. I remember Endicott, New York. Is there? 272 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: This wasn't far from Binghamton. Yeah. Robert Donald, the owner 273 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: of the store, said that he doesn't remember selling the 274 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: rifle to the kid, but he said that he passed 275 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: an instant background check. How come with what happened just 276 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, a year earlier, he wasn't at least blocked 277 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: from buying a weapon. Okay, at least all right, that's 278 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: the big question you go for mental health evaluation, especially 279 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: when you've put down murder, suicide is your life goal? 280 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: That they have read flag laws in New York. It 281 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: should have been flagged, and if the parents are clueless, 282 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: then then the school should have done it. The psychiatric evaluators. 283 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: The psychiatric evaluators gave him clearance. Why would you give 284 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Aaron said? Aaron said, nobody. Nobody made a move to 285 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: block him from something like that, from buying a gun. Nobody. Well, 286 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: whoever's involved in this kid's toy story, all these dead 287 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: brained I don't know if these were government workers, social workers, 288 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: psychiatric professionals, mental health. We was keep hearing. You know, 289 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: we need more mental health professionals. Actually, we need ones 290 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: who do their jobs properly. That when you get a 291 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: lunatic in, you say, hey, we got a lunatic in. 292 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Let's lock him up. And if and if the laws 293 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: don't work, or the age he doesn't qualified because he's 294 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: seventeen not eighteen, all that nonsense changed the laws, change 295 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: them immediately. Okay, this this doesn't work, and spare me 296 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: only your hot gas about we must fight. You're not fighting. 297 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: You're not doing anything after the fact. You give an 298 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: incendiary speech to raise money for your organization. That's what 299 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: you do. There are thousands of Peyton Gendron's. Oh yeah, 300 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: we're lucky that a lot of them do not carry 301 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: out their violent threats. But you're right. When we have 302 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: strong signs that one of them wants to this day 303 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: hazmat suit day, that would have been time, you know, 304 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: put him in a net and drag him away, lock 305 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: him up. Okay, he's shown up to school in a 306 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: hazmat suit. Murder suicide is his life goal. Then you 307 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: go on the internet then you find out he's on 308 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: the four chan or eight chan or discord or whatever 309 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: these these these message boards are, and you start reading 310 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: his stuff. And then you read his stuff and say, Okay, 311 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: clearly he's he's he's about to blow. All right, from 312 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old opening fire in Buffalo, New York. 313 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Why we moved to an Asian man that did the 314 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: same thing sixty eight years old in Orange County with 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: you in this church shooting in Laguna Woods. Next. All right, 316 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: it's posted to the web page kf I am six 317 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: forty dot com. You go to the John and Kent 318 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: page and there is the June seventh primary voter guide. 319 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: It's not elaborate, but I should look that up. It's not. Yeah, 320 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: there are people that think, I believe because it is 321 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: a long ballot. It's a lot of statewide offices. And 322 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: they got assembly members, and you've got state senators running, 323 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: and then he got congressman, and then of course you've 324 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: got judges. Well, we don't weigh in on judges. We 325 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: can't do that. You all live in different places. See 326 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: you're laughing at its brevity. Vote. I'll vote for him, 327 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: I'll vote for her. I'll vote for him. I agree. There, Okay, yeah, 328 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: there's we've got We've got four picks. There's something important ones. 329 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: That's all that matters. Okay. I'm just giving people a 330 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 1: warning because I cannot tell you how many people are 331 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: asking for this voter guide. And I suspect what they're 332 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: worried about is the judges. You yeah, I know, but 333 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: the judges actually in the grand scheme of things, don't 334 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: matter very much. They do occasionally, but occasionally. But here here, 335 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: it's the people who set policy. You're right, The attorney general, 336 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: you're right, the sheriff, governor, attorney general, mayor, sheriff. There 337 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: you go. You you picked those four people, and they win. 338 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Life's going to be different in California. Life will be better. 339 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: Don't don't get bogged down in the minutia details. Just 340 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: vote for those four exactly. You could leave the rest 341 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: of them blank for all I care. Yes, that's a 342 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: good point. All right, coming up after three o'clock, speaking 343 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: of the race, the vote. We're gonna get Rick Caruso soon, 344 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: we think. But next best thing is coming on John 345 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: Joe Buscaino. That's right. You just dropped out to endorse 346 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: Rick in days joining Carusoe's forces. So if you heard 347 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Joe was on our show many times. I know he's 348 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: on Conway many times. If you like what you heard, 349 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: he's now emerged with Caruso and he's boosting Caruso's campaign 350 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: to get him to be there. So that's that's a 351 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, So Joe will talk about it and 352 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: he'll talk about why he believes his basic stance on 353 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: the issues coincides with Rick Caruso after the News at 354 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: three o'clock. The shooting story from yesterday was local, so 355 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: it's gotten a lot of attention despite the fact that 356 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: fortunately not a lot of carnage. We have one person 357 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: dead and several wounded at a church in Laguna Woods. 358 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: This one was also motivated by hatred, but this would 359 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: be a different kind of racial religious angle. It was 360 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: apparently a Chinese man who was angered by the Taiwanese community, 361 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: so he went to this church in Orange County and 362 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: he opened fire. And it's a really bizarre story because 363 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: he presented himself there and apparently he was talking to congregants. 364 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: This is the Geneva Presbyterian Church. The people in attendance 365 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: yesterday where members of the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Club, which 366 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: has been holding services at this church for about ten years. 367 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: This man who opened fire comes from Las Vegas. David 368 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: went Way Chow is his name, and talk about out 369 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: of the profile sixty eight. Also Asian. There have been 370 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot of Asian mass shooters because only think I 371 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: remember the Virginia tech shooter. That's the one I was 372 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: thinking of him. Yeah, this guy is stilling because, as 373 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, China and Taiwan have a very long running 374 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: dispute over whether Taiwan is part of China or its 375 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: own independent country. And China is always making noises that 376 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: they are going to do an invasion the way Russia 377 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: invaded Ukraine, and for about the same reason. You're supposed 378 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: to be part of us. You have no business being independent. 379 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: And China actually punishes companies and media outlets in other countries. 380 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: For example, if if a media company does business in 381 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: China but they do some kind of presentation and Taiwan 382 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: is indicated on a map as being its own country, 383 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: the Chinese cut off relations. They don't want I don't 384 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: want to hear about it. You can't heard about NBA players. 385 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: They don't even want to touch that's like the third rail. 386 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: Don't say anything supportive of Taiwan, or that's right, we'll 387 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: be out of business with the with the Chinese, that's 388 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: a big market for the NBA. If you if if 389 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: if a player says free Taiwan on Twitter, then the 390 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: whole NBA TV contract is Uh somebody did. I think 391 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: it was an executive with one of the teams and 392 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: pointed he have to backpedal. I think Daryl Morey from 393 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets that's who. Okay, I think he was 394 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: the one who made some comment I remember, But anyway, Yeah, 395 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: they cut off. They cut off transmission of the NBA 396 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: games on TV in China. And that's a huge market 397 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: for the NBA. And you know, the NBA, like Lebron James, 398 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: are all big bag of hypocrites. It's it's safe to 399 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: rail about US politics and culture issues. But we'll let 400 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: the Chinese torture the wee gars, use slave labor, use 401 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: children as slave labor, threatened Taiwan. That's all right. We 402 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: got a big, big TV contract here. Huh's money. That's 403 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: like the story I saw the other day that the 404 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: NBA's announced it's going to do preseason games in the 405 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: United Arab Membrates where it's not a good place to 406 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: be a gay person. No, but does that matter to 407 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: them now? I think there's the woe crab with all 408 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: their commercials and all of their talk of being inclusive. Yeah, no, 409 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: that they'll boycott of state if you don't pass a 410 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: transgender bathroom law. But they could throw gay people off 411 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: roofs in some of these Middle Eastern countries. But it's like, 412 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a new market for US TV contract. Yeah, 413 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: nothing stands in the way of expanding the product. So 414 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: sick of these people, just so fed up and sick 415 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: with them. So Choo apparently goes to this church in 416 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: Orange County because he's not happy with the Taiwan these people, 417 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I guess we don't know exactly 418 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: did he research this and picked out this service at 419 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: this church yesterday and drives from Vegas to Laguna Woods. 420 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: He even talks to people, but eventually he secured church 421 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: stores with chains and he tried to disable locks with superglue. 422 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: He tried to nail at least one door shut, and 423 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: then as the congregants were sort of gathering for photos 424 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: there apparently was a former pastor who came back for 425 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: a visit. Choo opens fire. Unfortunately, there is a man 426 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: by the name of John Cheng from Laguna, Niguel who 427 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: tackles him but is killed. He's only fifty two. I 428 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: think he was there with his mother. But this gave 429 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: the other congregants and by the way, they're not young. 430 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: You look at the ages of some of the people 431 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: or seventies eighties, was seeing somebody in their nineties I 432 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: think who was injured. They were able to disarm him 433 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: and then they they hog tied him with the electrical 434 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: courts until the police could come, so he was disabled. 435 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those deals to where he 436 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: may have been trying to reload, but they stopped the 437 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: attack from being worse because I think there was thirty 438 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: to forty people there. But this is another person that 439 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: planned this out. Why you know, he didn't find a 440 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: closer tier enough congregation he could attack. But I you know, 441 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: it's terrible he would attack anybody. But I'm just saying, uh, yeah, 442 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: it's it's the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church and they were 443 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: having services at the Geneva Presbyterian Church like the Taiwanese 444 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: group as their service at ten am, the Geneva group 445 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: as a separate ceremony at ten thirty. Right, So I 446 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: guess they were renting space out for their for their 447 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: religious ceremony and they're having a luncheon for the pastor. 448 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: He was coming back after being a way left and 449 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: turned for a visit. So church luncheons you do get 450 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: an older crowd. And oh yeah, one of the past 451 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: has hit the shooter with the chair too. That was helpful. Yeah, 452 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: so the I mean, really that's all you all you 453 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: can do? You get if somebody's got a I mean, 454 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: you could end up dead like the guy who tackled 455 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: the shooter, right, or you're you get lucky hit him 456 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: with a chair and he goes down and you don't 457 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: get shot. But Joe had driven there on Saturday. He's 458 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: a US citizen who immigrated from China. He was a 459 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: security guard in the Vegas area again sixty eight years old. 460 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: They found notes written in Mandarin in his card that's 461 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: showed hatred of the Taiwanese people. But like I said, 462 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: we're not exactly clear why he chose Laguna Woods. Taiwanese 463 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: Presbyterian con it's all the same disease. The eighteen year 464 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: old in Buffalo, he's stealing about black people. This guy 465 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: is stealing about Taiwanese people, and they're you know, they're 466 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: stewing and stewing, and they're isolated. They probably spent a 467 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: lot of time online. They start obsessing over whatever their 468 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: issue is, and pretty soon they I got to do something, 469 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: and it's like I can get a gun and I'll 470 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: just shoot everybody up. We'll have more on the Buffalo 471 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: shooting later in the show, like I had mentioned as 472 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: a new story about how this guy apparently was in 473 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: chat rooms talking about his racist motives and his plans. 474 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: We got more coming up. Joe Puskayano, the city councilman 475 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: who dropped out of the Bayer's race but is now 476 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: endorsing Rick Caruso, will join us at three oh five. 477 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: I was saddened to learn that his parents were civil 478 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: engineers for the New York Department of Transportation. That was 479 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: my father's job for years. Huh, I heared him, Yeah, 480 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: you're probably just a couple of ticks away. Well, that's 481 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: like the Michigan school shooter, right. They gave him a 482 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: gun too. The fifteen year old. Remember that story. I 483 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: mean that area that's not far from where we worked. No, 484 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Bighamton was what an hour or so, the same culture right, 485 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Canton Elmira. We worked in the Northern Tier of Pennsylvania. 486 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: That area is known as the Southern Tier of New York. 487 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: It was basically the same cultural market. So you know, 488 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: you remember those people you were saying, what would zee outdoors? 489 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: People who like to hunt and shoots? What are you 490 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: talking about? People like to shoot? The father could have 491 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: just gotten it for him to hunt game. Right, give 492 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: your psycho son a gun for his birthday. Yeah, and 493 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: it was fifteen birthday, okay, because the mental health evaluation 494 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: was when he was seventeen, right, this was before that gun. 495 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: When he's sixteen. Mental health evaluation at seventeen, match shooter 496 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: at eighteen. But they're saying that sometime when he was sixteen, 497 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: when the pandemic began, that's when he got radical eyes 498 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: reading stuff online that turned him on. Yeah, that's what 499 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: you may have. That's what shutting down the schools does. 500 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: That's that's right, that's right, that's what happens when you 501 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: turned to zoom. That's right, not zoom, but in this case, 502 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: just people looking up their own educational materials. I mean 503 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I I've looked on some of those websites like eight 504 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: chan and four chan. Holy crap, it's scary. Oh and 505 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of these people and it stopped. 506 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: They right, It's like ha. You know, after about like 507 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: two minutes, you just feel really dirty and you have 508 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: to get off and you hope you're not you're not 509 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: getting dracked, I know. And people think that we're radical 510 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: or however they're like, oh my god, if you believe 511 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: that those guys are saying, well, you want to go 512 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: look at that. If you go look at those guys, 513 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: those are professionals there. It's the evil Channel personified. I 514 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: jove Pus Guayano, the La City council member. We'll be 515 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: on after the news at three o'clock and he's joined 516 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: up at the Cruso campaign for mayor. He dropped out 517 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: of the race last week. We have an opportunity to 518 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: talk to him about his support for Caruso. Maybe we'll 519 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: get his viewpoint on some of his opponents, like Karen Bass. 520 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that after the news at three o'clock. 521 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: If it's not Bass against Caruso in November. I'd be 522 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: really really shocked because, as we talked, the mustache and 523 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Mike Fura and Kevin Leone don't belong in the race. Yeah, 524 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any big support there. Those guys 525 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: are over. This happened on Thursday, made the news on Friday. 526 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: We weren't here Friday. It's worth talking about the La 527 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: County District Attorney George Gascone has lifted in order that 528 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: he put into place the day he took office that 529 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: forbade prosecutors from asking for cash bail for defendants quote 530 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: charged with non violent crimes. He's got this Chief Deputy 531 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: DA by the name of Sharon Woo who put out 532 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: the memo and unbelievable the wordage. We remained committed to 533 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: the rapid development of a well funded, robust pre trial 534 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: services program that balances the rights of the accused while 535 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: protecting public safety. And this is the way she wrote this. 536 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: Despite the significant efforts by community justice partners, fail's that name? 537 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: What is that? A comprehensive pretrial services program has not 538 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: been fully realized. After listening to the community, victims and 539 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: members of this office, I've decided to allow limited exceptions 540 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: to the pre trial release policy while such a program 541 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: is finalized. Now you scroll down further in the story 542 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: in the Daily News and you get what this is 543 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: really all about. From Eric Sadal, He's been in our 544 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: show many times, vice president of the Association of Deputy Das. 545 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: He said it took eighteen months of smashing grab robberies 546 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: and revolving door reoffenders for George Gascon to admit what 547 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: it took Angeline knows about eighteen minutes to know in 548 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: their gut his bail policy didn't work and it made 549 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: all of us unsafe. His stubborn refusal to course correct 550 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: is the failure of competency the rest of his statement. 551 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: Thanks to him, many arrestees were put back on the streets, 552 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: someone on to reoffend. Even kill Gascon knew it was 553 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: a failure, but he refused to acknowledge it or face 554 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: the numbers. Now he's worried about another set of numbers, 555 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: poles and signatures in support of his recall. This change 556 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: isn't about keeping him safe, it's about keeping his job. 557 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: That was well said by Ric Spell. It's perfect, it's 558 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: exactly right, It's exactly what it was a failure. Also, 559 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little bothered by the word limited that was 560 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: used in the memo. Yeah right, I've decided through outlimited exceptions. 561 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Well what's the limit? Is this an example of trying 562 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: to get a cheap headline from the idiot newspapers? Oh 563 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: look at that gas going reverses course, It's like, well 564 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: how much did he reverse? Course? What's the percentage of 565 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: arrestees who are going to be held on bail now? 566 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Is that it's a well funded, robust pre trial services program. 567 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: That's what they call a pre trial services program, criminals 568 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: awaiting their day. In course, the bad guys services, they're 569 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: the guys who are who are hurting us and stealing 570 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: from us. Well, we talked about this. It was an 571 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: LAPD official, I forget his name. He did a quick 572 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: news conference about the seventeen gangs that were responsible for 573 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the street robberies, and he was mentioning 574 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: a few names of guys that they've been arrested like 575 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: four times in three months. Because I guess when you 576 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: steal somebody's watch but it's not considered violence, then you 577 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: don't have to have bail. In a lot of cases 578 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: that there's no bail. They have this in New York. Dad, 579 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: one guy who got arrested four times in one day, 580 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: one day because you're there's no bail, so you don't 581 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: even have the inconvenience of maybe spending the night in jail, 582 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: and then because it's a misdemeanor, there's no jail, so 583 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: why not steal all you can just do it in 584 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, nine hundred and fifty dollars increments because bail, 585 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: according to Gascon like everything else that they talk about, 586 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: is racist. Sure, it comes down too hard on persons 587 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: of color who can't afford the bail and have to 588 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: stay in jail while others are released. 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