Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where
Speaker 1: we never like to be reminded of Super Bowl forty six,
Speaker 1: but we are today. I'm here in the Chris Wesleyan
Speaker 1: podcast studio with my friend friend Patrick Claybond and yes
Speaker 1: joining us, I believe from NFL Films, wearing the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl forty six hating it the man Brian baldingder.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Greg, Patrick, I'm doing great, putting week
Speaker 2: eleven to bed and starting to look ahead to here
Speaker 2: like you guys, to week twelve, and it's almost it's
Speaker 2: almost hard to bleed. But we're just about in the
Speaker 2: stretch run right now. So anyways, I'll be a good
Speaker 2: shape here, guys.
Speaker 3: Going to be with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you do, check us out, you know
Speaker 1: on the on the YouTube or on the NFL channel streaming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bald he's wearing that Super Bowl forty six hat. And
Speaker 1: I have what I think is a lukewarm take, but
Speaker 1: it tends to get pushed back from Patriots fans. I
Speaker 1: think that is the worst loss in Patriots history. Number One,
Speaker 1: that Giants team was not very good super Bowl forty six.
Speaker 4: That was the second time round. Number two, at that point.
Speaker 1: It was the second time they had lost to the Giants,
Speaker 1: and at that point they had had a lot of
Speaker 1: really good Patriots teams. I know, no one's crying for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but it had been seven or eight years
Speaker 1: since and they had come up short in the end.
Speaker 1: So I was there in the stadium, and I believe
Speaker 1: that was actually the worst loss in Patriots history.
Speaker 2: Well, Bill Belichick is one floor below me right now, Greg,
Speaker 2: I can knock on his door.
Speaker 3: Just see what he thinks about I would knocking his door,
Speaker 3: see what he thinks.
Speaker 2: He seemed pretty jovial the other day with Eli and
Speaker 2: Peyton on the Mamanni Cash though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And that's a lot. Baldy walked into work today rocking
Speaker 5: that Super Bowl forty six, So he could go right
Speaker 5: to Bill Belichick's face and say, look at this hat.
Speaker 5: Stick it Bill.
Speaker 4: That would be Greig. That would be an interesting question
Speaker 4: for him.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if I was the coach of the team
Speaker 1: like him, maybe losing the undefeated season would stick in
Speaker 1: your craw a little more.
Speaker 4: All Right, this is the previous show, four week twelve.
Speaker 1: As always, we go from the smallest to the biggest
Speaker 1: spread each and every week.
Speaker 5: And we start with a huge matchup greg in the
Speaker 5: NFC West, and guess what it's not Niners Rams Baldy,
Speaker 5: it's the division leading Arizona Cardinals and the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals at one point favorite. We get to Adam
Speaker 5: me and Mark Sanchez and Christina pink there with this
Speaker 5: one in Seattle. The Seahawks ranked in the thirties Baldy
Speaker 5: in rushing efficiency defense play action defense and the Cardinals
Speaker 5: top ten in both metrics. But Mike McDonald's defense looked
Speaker 5: much better against the forty nine ers a week ago.
Speaker 5: How do you see this going?
Speaker 3: Well, they made a big change at linebackers. Patrick.
Speaker 2: You know when they started the season they were starting
Speaker 2: in Terrell Dotson and Drome Bakers. They're out. The rookie
Speaker 2: Charise Knight is in there from UTEP and he made it.
Speaker 2: He seemed to make a big difference. I think that
Speaker 2: middle layer right now, between Knight to rees Night, the
Speaker 2: rookie Devin Witherston, they look much better in the passing.
Speaker 3: Game that they had.
Speaker 2: They were very good against Christian McCaffrey in the run
Speaker 2: last week. They really shut him down a number of plays.
Speaker 2: They didn't give up any explosive plays. He seemed like
Speaker 2: to're playing a lot better then you know. Just watching
Speaker 2: Gino go eighty yards in eighty seconds to win that game.
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigmo was huge. I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: have a big role. They look, they look if they're
Speaker 2: gonna make any kind of a run this really tightly
Speaker 2: bunched up NFC West.
Speaker 3: Now's the time to do it. Now's the time to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Winning on the road in San Francisco is always always nice,
Speaker 2: But Arizona is a well coached peskey bunch. They take
Speaker 2: care of the football, they run the football well. They're
Speaker 2: gonna get a good test from this Arizona Cardinal team
Speaker 2: coming off of bye week right now, and a team
Speaker 2: I think that could be better the second half, guys,
Speaker 2: because I don't think they've really utilized Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 2: well enough. That's one of his six touchdown catches right there.
Speaker 2: But I think if he really comes on in the
Speaker 2: second half the way we've seen Lad mcconki and some
Speaker 2: of these rookie receivers, I think they could have a
Speaker 2: lot more points, a lot more explosion left in and
Speaker 2: offensively right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love everything you said about the changes that
Speaker 1: the Seahawks mad. It's a really interesting time for these
Speaker 1: two teams to play. I don't think you can overstay
Speaker 1: how important a win that was for Seattle. San Francisco
Speaker 1: has owned them. Seattle was already zero and two in
Speaker 1: the division. They were going to get buried in this
Speaker 1: division early. Now they have a chance. They're at home.
Speaker 1: Arizona's coming off the buy and yes, does this Seahawks
Speaker 1: change that they made during the bye week, you get
Speaker 1: Ernest Jones in that trade. I actually thought they played
Speaker 1: very well defensively against the Rams before the buye as well.
Speaker 1: They end up losing that game in overtime. Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: does Matthew Stafford things. But if they are a little
Speaker 1: more cohesive and Mike McDonald, really he is the Shanahan
Speaker 1: Tree Killer, and he just came off two pretty good
Speaker 1: games where now he's got another challenge of a very
Speaker 1: good run game. And we'll see if they're run defenses
Speaker 1: as well. And they played a lot more man coverage
Speaker 1: last week. I think that plays to the strengths of
Speaker 1: their team with Riek Willen and Devon Wetherspoon and then
Speaker 1: on offense, there was a lot of changes to Patrick,
Speaker 1: like Gino was under center a lot more. And I
Speaker 1: do think the mismatch here for the Seahawks is is
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba and DK. He makes such a big
Speaker 1: difference against these cornerbacks, I know, Starling Thomas and Max Meltin,
Speaker 1: like they've they've played well this year.
Speaker 4: But I got to think that those are good matchups.
Speaker 1: Though for him, you got to think, like you're play
Speaker 1: our players are better than your players.
Speaker 5: What do you think, Baldy, Yeah, but I mean.
Speaker 2: You look at Williams and Melton right now and Starling Thomas,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Picky Gain Okay, game here recently they've played really well.
Speaker 2: They've defended the pass, they're not afraid to play man coverage.
Speaker 2: They've got a blitz to get pressure. But they also, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Nick Raylis is their defensive coordinator. I mean
Speaker 2: I knew Nick when he was like a kid, you know,
Speaker 2: just to get into a public you know, he's liked
Speaker 2: all of thirty or thirty one. But his ability to
Speaker 2: pull the perfect overload blitz at the right time, it's
Speaker 2: kind of uncanny. He's done it to brock Birdy. He
Speaker 2: did it in the last game. He kind of times
Speaker 2: this stuff up pretty good, and they generally get home
Speaker 2: and effect the play. So I don't know, they just
Speaker 2: looked well coached. You know, we always say this is
Speaker 2: a cliche, but it's but it's true. Like more games
Speaker 2: are lost than one, and I feel like the Cardinals
Speaker 2: don't lose games because they beat themselves.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that we're maybe in hindsight we
Speaker 5: come back a few years. I call this defense the
Speaker 5: search bar because I'm always having to actually google who
Speaker 5: the particular players are. But perhaps in a few years
Speaker 5: we look back, Baldy and say, you know, this was
Speaker 5: a bunch of dudes. They came out there and played
Speaker 5: and executed well despite the fact that they really haven't
Speaker 5: been able to generate pressure of the season. The only
Speaker 5: team in the NFL without one defender that has twenty
Speaker 5: pressures because that's they have so many guys contribute to that.
Speaker 5: And Greg, you mentioned Gino going under center more, perhaps
Speaker 5: to protect him, or it also helped that Bosa was
Speaker 5: out in that final drive of the game where they
Speaker 5: breezed down the field. But if you can't get pressure
Speaker 5: on Geno Smith, the Seahawks are gonna score points. That's
Speaker 5: just something that always happens. And so it's an intriguing
Speaker 5: matchup between two teams that I really almost feel the
Speaker 5: same about. And they're playing in this division at this
Speaker 5: point in the year. It's I can't wait.
Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray's under center a lot more too that.
Speaker 1: The moment where I just thought this Cardinals team is different.
Speaker 1: There's just something about them is when the Jets defender
Speaker 1: absolutely blasted Kyler Murray and the helmet flew off. I
Speaker 1: think it was Quincy Williams, okay, and then Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: just started laughing. He's like a crazy man. He just
Speaker 1: started laughing. And you know what he did. He completed right,
Speaker 1: and he had a blue like immediately after.
Speaker 5: He had a beautiful third day.
Speaker 1: I think it was to McBride and to coverage and
Speaker 1: then he hit that dime to Harrison for the touchdown
Speaker 1: right afterwards, and I'm saying, oh, this team is different.
Speaker 4: They're laughing.
Speaker 5: They're laughing.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you can't talk about the Cardinals and
Speaker 2: not really brag about James Connor and Budda Baker. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're the team leaders of the whole team, but they
Speaker 2: show up every week, you know, and so I give
Speaker 2: him a ton of crap. Buddha's like, I mean, here
Speaker 2: you go, James Connor right now, I mean that looked
Speaker 2: like the Jets defense, right I mean, you gotta laugh.
Speaker 2: But now, I mean, mister James Connor, he's been going
Speaker 2: to two years in a row now, and you know,
Speaker 2: and then you know they're starting to work Trey Benson
Speaker 2: in there. But what we're not talking about is Paris
Speaker 2: Johnson and Evan Brown and fro Holt and you know,
Speaker 2: Kristen Cologne up front right now, like they're doing a
Speaker 2: really good job. The tight ends, Elijah Higgins, they fit
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 3: Run game really well. McBride is a.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he doesn't have a touchdown catch, guys,
Speaker 2: but he's I mean, he's got everything but a touchdown catch.
Speaker 2: He's a legitimate star tight end in his business right now.
Speaker 5: And you mentioned James Carves forced to mistackle on thirty
Speaker 5: seven percent of his touches this season even when they
Speaker 5: don't block it up, fifth highest rate among running backs
Speaker 5: with over fifty touches. Let's leave that game, go to
Speaker 5: another big game in the NFC, also featuring a team
Speaker 5: from the Division. In fact, the team the Seahawks beat
Speaker 5: last week greg the San Francisco forty nine Ers two
Speaker 5: and a half point underdogs at the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 5: with Kevin Burkhardt a couple of dudes named Tom and
Speaker 5: Aaron Andrews on that call as we get a chance
Speaker 5: to see how San Francisco bounces back, green Bay survives
Speaker 5: what would have been a loss in the first one
Speaker 5: a while to the Chicago Bears. How do you see it? Plan?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. This is the toughest game of
Speaker 1: the week to me. You can see that with the number.
Speaker 1: When the home team is favored by two and a half.
Speaker 1: It's just holding up your heads because both these teams
Speaker 1: they're very similar to me in that we know they
Speaker 1: have the pieces to be good. We know that they're
Speaker 1: well coached, and yet I'm not totally convin what's happening
Speaker 1: on the field for them. I'll ask you, Baldy, because
Speaker 1: it's been something I've been thinking about, like, are the
Speaker 1: Packers good? They have an excellent offense in a mediocre defense,
Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of a similar formula. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if the offense is as good as it
Speaker 1: was previously. Do you think the Packers are are a
Speaker 1: good team.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think they've the changes they made,
Speaker 2: Jeff Hefley coming in there running the defense. They've you know,
Speaker 2: they've got nineteen takeaways. There's something they wanted to do.
Speaker 2: They wanted to play more man coverage. They do see vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams had his best game in a month last
Speaker 2: week against him. You know, they had a field goal
Speaker 2: block to lose the game, which is unfortunate for Chicago.
Speaker 2: I think offensively they they can be very good. I
Speaker 2: mean they were good replacing Jordan Love with Malik Willis.
Speaker 2: They seem to work around whatever weaknesses they have pretty well.
Speaker 2: By Couch, the coaches good, But I wouldn't say they're
Speaker 2: a great team. I mean San Francisco, though, isn't either.
Speaker 2: And you could see without Kittle and without Boast in
Speaker 2: the lineup, they were a very average team. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if McCaffrey is McCaffrey yet because he doesn't
Speaker 2: look like him. I think Jordan Mason looks and his
Speaker 2: two carries looked a lot better. It's just very limited
Speaker 2: sample size. Maybe they want McCaffrey to be ready if
Speaker 2: they get to the postseason, but they can't get explosive
Speaker 2: plays right now in their offense, and that's something Kyle
Speaker 2: Shanahan has always prided himself in to be able to
Speaker 2: get the ball down the field in big chunks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and unfortunate that they're having to do this again
Speaker 5: without Brandon Ay. And you look back to the trade
Speaker 5: saga and the potential of him leaving and the draft
Speaker 5: Ricky Piersoll, you kind of see, even though Ricky Piersoll
Speaker 5: got in the end zone, this offense really needs BA
Speaker 5: to be in there to be successful. And so we'll
Speaker 5: see how they utilize Deebo and CMC in this game
Speaker 5: against Green Bay where the Packers are kind of making
Speaker 5: me think of last year's Packers where they really didn't
Speaker 5: get hot and start playing good football until later on
Speaker 5: in the season. And it's tough to kind of turn
Speaker 5: it on to get to that spot and kind of
Speaker 5: expect that. And so we're I think we're gonna learn
Speaker 5: a lot about both of these teams. But I'm wondering
Speaker 5: how Jeff Hafley approaches Brock Party because in that playoff game,
Speaker 5: they played zone ninety percent of the time against Brock Party,
Speaker 5: and we know how it turned out ultimately at the end,
Speaker 5: but Brock dealing with the shoulder injury this week, where
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan kind of mumming and tamping that down. We
Speaker 5: talked to Tom Pellisero on Fantasy Love this week, saying
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily that big of a deal. I think
Speaker 5: it might be a big deal with the way that
Speaker 5: everything is kind of hanging on by a thread in
Speaker 5: Santa Clara right now. They need everybody that can be
Speaker 5: one hundred percent to be.
Speaker 1: D Yeah, and I think these two quarterbacks remind me
Speaker 1: more of each other than you would think, because I
Speaker 1: think brocks highs this year and even in that game
Speaker 1: last week against Yeah, they're so high, but he's a
Speaker 1: little streakier than maybe his reputation would be. And Jordan
Speaker 1: Love is like that too. He Jordan Love played it awesome
Speaker 1: last week. And yeah, I think the Packers have a
Speaker 1: few more answers right now. And third down, like for
Speaker 1: the forty nine, you know where it's going. It's going
Speaker 1: to Jennings, Like Deebo is a great player and yet
Speaker 1: it's diminishing returns using him as a runner. I hear
Speaker 1: you on CMC Baldy because he had a higher workload
Speaker 1: in that game in terms of snaps in any game
Speaker 1: all last season but one, and I'm thinking you Jordan
Speaker 1: Mason a little more. I do think this is a
Speaker 1: better matchup for them because Jayer Alexander is out of practice.
Speaker 1: He's really important for the Packers. We'll see if he plays.
Speaker 1: And Kenny Clark in this pass rush really hasn't gotten going.
Speaker 1: So if you give Brock Purty time and Kyle Shanans
Speaker 1: some time, they'll be able to scheme some things up.
Speaker 5: I would think, well, I would you know.
Speaker 2: I'm nick Bosa goes out of the game last week
Speaker 2: early in the third quarter.
Speaker 3: The injury looks serious to me. I don't know what
Speaker 3: a status is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not practicing early in the week, I don't
Speaker 1: think yeah, no, but.
Speaker 3: He I mean he was.
Speaker 2: They said it was a bleak muscle, but I saw
Speaker 2: him hopping on one leg off the field, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a bleak or not. But when
Speaker 2: he's done in the lineup, there's nobody that scares you,
Speaker 2: including Leonard Floyd.
Speaker 3: There's nobody in the pass rush that scares you.
Speaker 2: And so unless they blitz and they're not a good
Speaker 2: blitzing team. They have a hard time pressuring the quarterback
Speaker 2: and Gino had plenty of time to make decisions. They
Speaker 2: didn't rush him particularly well, and so I don't know,
Speaker 2: they look very vulnerable defensively to me right now.
Speaker 1: Just off Bald these like vibes in tone. Now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking I'm leaning Packers because the one thing the Packers
Speaker 1: do have, I would say I'm confused about this team.
Speaker 1: Like whatever the Bengals don't have, the Packers do, Like
Speaker 1: they are winning all these games. I know you can
Speaker 1: say a field goal blocks lucky or whatever, but they
Speaker 1: are finding a way to win these games where they're
Speaker 1: not at their best, and that is a skill.
Speaker 5: Well, I think two things specifically player wise, right you
Speaker 5: have a tackle breaking runner in Josh Jacobs on offense
Speaker 5: and a playmaking safety on defense. And Xavier McKinney. And
Speaker 5: again I'm going to echo your point. The way Baldi's
Speaker 5: talking about this non boat or hurt Bosa forty nine
Speaker 5: Ers defense, I'm picturing Josh Jacobs, you know, getting the edges.
Speaker 5: The Packers have been one of the teams fortunate enough
Speaker 5: to be able to start the same five up front
Speaker 5: for most of the season. I think Josh Jacobs might
Speaker 5: go big in this.
Speaker 4: One that I love like see.
Speaker 1: At first I thought there was this wasn't a good week,
Speaker 1: not a lot of games between teams with the winning record.
Speaker 1: But these NFC West teams are all intriguing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they've all almost got winning records. Still a
Speaker 5: little Sunday Night football, Yeah, let's do it. In fact,
Speaker 5: let's do it across the street at Sofi Stadium. With
Speaker 5: two prime time games this week at SOFI, the Philadelphia
Speaker 5: Eagles two and a half point favorites Baldy against Cooper
Speaker 5: Cup Pooka Nakua and the Los Angeles Rams with over
Speaker 5: under of forty nine. Of course, it's Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 5: Mike Torico, Chris Collinsworth and Melissa Stark on the call.
Speaker 5: A fan base that's upset Baldy about one of the
Speaker 5: better teams in the NFC going up against the Rams scene.
Speaker 5: He's just trying to hang on in this division. Nick
Speaker 5: Sirianni have a happy exit from so Far on Sunday Night.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're playing great football right now. You know,
Speaker 2: we've won six in a row. The defense is, you know,
Speaker 2: ranked number one in the league. Not the fewest points,
Speaker 2: but ranked number one. The rookies have been fantastic for
Speaker 2: him in the secondary.
Speaker 3: But I would say, you know, this team is all
Speaker 3: built on Saquon and Lane.
Speaker 2: Johnson told me a couple of weeks ago that basically
Speaker 2: our offense is just built around running and hitting people,
Speaker 2: just running and hitting, and they do that long enough
Speaker 2: you get these breakaway way runs. They've had ten days
Speaker 2: since they've played the Commanders to get ready for this game,
Speaker 2: and so they've had plenty of rest. They're pretty healthy
Speaker 2: right now as a group. Everybody is out there that
Speaker 2: needs to be out there, including Malatta and AJ Brown
Speaker 2: and some other guys that have been banged up. But
Speaker 2: I thought early in the year that Saquon would lead
Speaker 2: this league in rushing. I still think he's gonna win
Speaker 2: the rushing title totally yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 3: He's just that good right now, and they're that good upfront.
Speaker 3: The Rams.
Speaker 2: Last week they made a subtle change. They put the
Speaker 2: rookie bow Limmer in at center. Yeah, Kyron Williams got
Speaker 2: his best game in a month. He got off, so
Speaker 2: did Blake Korum, and then at the end of the
Speaker 2: day Stafford. You know, wasn't sacked, was barely touched. They
Speaker 2: really played well up front, and when you look at
Speaker 2: the run that they made a year ago around starting
Speaker 2: around this time, it started with the offensive line really
Speaker 2: coming together Avila.
Speaker 3: You know, bow Limmer Dotson.
Speaker 2: Like they they played well last week, they got to
Speaker 2: play great this week because if you give Stafford time
Speaker 2: with his receivers, I don't care who's covering, like he's
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna find those guys right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is such a good matchup because you can
Speaker 1: look at the Rams record and see five and five,
Speaker 1: but they're four and one in their last five games.
Speaker 1: That's that's about the level they're playing at it And
Speaker 1: it was fascinating because you mentioned they put Limmer in
Speaker 1: at center and they have played good games with him,
Speaker 1: et cetera lately when he's been out there. That that
Speaker 1: means the Jodah Jackson signing, they're almost taking an l
Speaker 1: on that right now. They gave him thirty four million
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed he is right now going to be coming
Speaker 1: off the bench just as a sixth offensive lineman. But
Speaker 1: that shows they believe in the group that they have,
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't working out. I think it's such
Speaker 1: an interesting battle of the trenches because, yeah, the offensive
Speaker 1: line for LA's gotten better. Defensive line for Philly has
Speaker 1: also been getting better, but that defense might be a
Speaker 1: little more back to front, where it's the secondary helping
Speaker 1: out the guys up front. But then you flip it around,
Speaker 1: Patrick and I think of these pass rushers for the Rams,
Speaker 1: these young pass rushers who we have been talking about
Speaker 1: and love, What a test for them to have to
Speaker 1: face in run defense, these road graders that the Eagles have,
Speaker 1: and to try to get to Jalen Hurts when he
Speaker 1: does drop back to pass like this is a big
Speaker 1: time test for these young players for the Rams.
Speaker 5: It's a defense that the team that's got five wins,
Speaker 5: and those those five wins this season, they have a
Speaker 5: pressure rate of forty five percent or higher. It's the
Speaker 5: largest number of games of that particular stat category in
Speaker 5: the entire NFL, and if I'm not mistaken, it is
Speaker 5: all five of those wins. As a much credit as
Speaker 5: we want to give Matthew Stafford. And when these two
Speaker 5: receivers are there, Brayden Fisk and Jared verse Young, this
Speaker 5: defensive line is played incredible, but on the other side,
Speaker 5: Landed Dickerson, Jordan Mailatta, Lane Johnson, who's allowed just fifteen
Speaker 5: pressures in two sacks the entire seasons. It feels hard
Speaker 5: you're considering all that, the way that the Eagles are playing,
Speaker 5: the matchup with the offensive line of the defensive line,
Speaker 5: it's hard to go away from Philly. It's going to
Speaker 5: be hard.
Speaker 1: I think they could put it off, but I like
Speaker 1: the extra rest, Baldy. I want to ask you about
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. I don't know what to think about Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts this season using the eye test, So I want
Speaker 1: you know better.
Speaker 5: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, he played I don't know two
Speaker 2: or three games, well three games. Two games for sure
Speaker 2: are probably three without Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddar and aj Brown.
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know they had their backups in
Speaker 2: and there playing. That's one thing the offense has adjusted
Speaker 2: as the season. They're playing a lot more play action players.
Speaker 2: During the buy we talked to Nick going, look, we
Speaker 2: can't have the quarterback holding the ball five seconds like
Speaker 2: he's got right to the offensive line. And so they
Speaker 2: did adjust it a little bit more right there, play
Speaker 2: action Jaalen's doing a little bit better of getting the
Speaker 2: ball out quicker. But you know, he's cut way down
Speaker 2: on the turnovers in the six game win streak. He's
Speaker 2: not turning it over. He's taking care of the football better,
Speaker 2: and so I think he's playing a lot better football.
Speaker 2: And you have to account for him as a runner
Speaker 2: in any situation, whether it's the tush push, whether it's
Speaker 2: a scramble, whether it's a design run.
Speaker 3: He's an excellent runner. And he's healthy right now.
Speaker 2: So a couple of these years he hadn't really been
Speaker 2: healthy this time of the year, and so you have
Speaker 2: to account for him, and he's difficult.
Speaker 3: He's a real good compliment.
Speaker 2: To Saquan right now, and he loves to throw the
Speaker 2: deep ball to AJ Brown. That's his big play guy,
Speaker 2: and so he trusts him to go get it. So
Speaker 2: I think he's playing really well and he's a perfect
Speaker 2: guy in the style of offense a Kellibar's running.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really well said, especially saying he's
Speaker 1: a compliment, and that's sort of how this offense has evolved.
Speaker 4: And that's where I've settled in too, is that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes he holds onto the ball a little bit,
Speaker 1: but He's a big play maker. They get a lot
Speaker 1: of big plays. They're set up by the run. His
Speaker 1: running is helped. And so I'm forecasting where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be when we talk QB Island in a week and
Speaker 1: a half with Jalen Hurts, because he deserves, I think,
Speaker 1: to be on QB Island. And Yeah, you got two
Speaker 1: of the most valuable wide receivers in football in this game.
Speaker 1: You can see the ab test when AJ Brown is
Speaker 1: not on the field, different Eagles team, when Pukinaku is
Speaker 1: not on the field, Different Rams team.
Speaker 5: They're about as good as it gets. Yeah, and glad
Speaker 5: that all four of these guys are able to play
Speaker 5: in this game and we get a chance to see
Speaker 5: it on Sunday Night Football at so far A Stadium
Speaker 5: is going to be a fantastic event and experience, I
Speaker 5: think for all, because you know, we've got some prom
Speaker 5: tim games up here in the next couple of weeks
Speaker 5: that aren't going to be as fun as the ones
Speaker 5: we get on Sunday and Monday.
Speaker 1: I know they didn't they didn't flex out the Browns
Speaker 1: Broncos I was really surprised about that.
Speaker 5: They're leaving that one in there. Anyways, it's one of
Speaker 5: those duovers that we'd like to add on. Where a
Speaker 5: note before we move on, the Eagles have gone under
Speaker 5: center way more. They went from eight point seven percent
Speaker 5: under center in weeks one through four since the bye
Speaker 5: twenty one percent of the time Jalen Hurts lining up
Speaker 5: under center. Probably a lot to do with Saquon being
Speaker 5: the guy on that offense and Jalen Hurts kind of
Speaker 5: taking a step back to becoming the compliment to their
Speaker 5: all star.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you might have.
Speaker 2: That numb December, Pat, but the Eagles have run the
Speaker 2: ball ninety eight more times than they've thrown it. Think
Speaker 2: it's a huge disparity the most of the NFL. I
Speaker 2: think they're right around fifty six or fifty seven percent
Speaker 2: run first. And you look at the teams that are
Speaker 2: winning Buffalo, you look at Detroit, you look at some
Speaker 2: of these teams Washington that are winning. They're running it
Speaker 2: more than they're throwing it. The trend is strong, but
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is at the very top of that list.
Speaker 1: This might be the like the most Brian Baldinger Eagles
Speaker 1: team we've seen in a long time, since since Jerome
Speaker 1: Brown was out there.
Speaker 4: Wreaking havoc in the backfield.
Speaker 2: All right, I have to listen to some of the
Speaker 2: offense linemen gripe bat me on Mondays when they don't
Speaker 2: run it.
Speaker 3: Enough, So I have to listen to some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that's awesome.
Speaker 5: All Right, we'll go from that prime time game to another.
Speaker 5: It's time for the game of the week for someoning
Speaker 5: about DraftKings sportsbook. The Baltimore Ravens a two and a
Speaker 5: half point favorite at SOFI Stadium on Monday Night Football
Speaker 5: against the Chargers with an over under of fifty. Joe
Speaker 5: Bucktoyite and and Lisa Salters on the call, Greg, we
Speaker 5: saw a score fest against the Chargers last time out.
Speaker 5: In comes a hurt Baltimore Ravens defense. They couldn't stop
Speaker 5: anybody when they're healthy. Are there eighty points scored in
Speaker 5: this football?
Speaker 1: Patrick? Not happy with this defense? You like they're coming
Speaker 1: off one of their better games of the year. At
Speaker 1: least I've been saying all year when this Ravens team
Speaker 1: loses that, great teams respond, and I expect them to respond,
Speaker 1: and they have they after that Raiders lost. I guess
Speaker 1: they didn't in weeks one and two, but they bounce
Speaker 1: back in the last two games after a loss, and
Speaker 1: I think they will here as well. I just want
Speaker 1: to know, can the Chargers and their pressure group, and
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack wasn't out there last week, he would help
Speaker 1: a lot if he returns. Joey Bosa looked better. He
Speaker 1: played a lot more last week, so that helped him
Speaker 1: out a lot. Can they consistently get pressure? Can they
Speaker 1: be as disciplined as the last two teams that have
Speaker 1: faced the Ravens, Because if they can, and they've been
Speaker 1: quite good at getting pressure, then I do think they
Speaker 1: have a chance in this game to hold that Ravens
Speaker 1: offense down.
Speaker 3: Well, it's really amazing what the charge are doing. And
Speaker 3: they're starting two rookie corners, two fifth round picks on
Speaker 3: the corners corners, one of them slot one outside cam
Speaker 3: Hart and Kristen Folds the other corner. They filled up
Speaker 3: and they played great against Joe Burrow in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: Now Joe had some unbelievable plays too him to tie
Speaker 3: it up. But you know, Daylon Henley is a guy
Speaker 3: that I don't know. People talk about him out there enough.
Speaker 3: I don't nationally don't, but he's he's a phenomenon. He
Speaker 3: never comes off the field and he wears number zero
Speaker 3: for the Chargers second year player, Like he kind of
Speaker 3: does everything for him, including blitz and so when they
Speaker 3: want to get pressure, extra pressure, they will blitz him.
Speaker 3: They will bring Derwin James off the edge.
Speaker 2: They'll do what they have to do because they feel
Speaker 2: like they're tackling much better in the secondary and they're
Speaker 2: holding up in man coverage much better than they were
Speaker 2: at any point under Brandon Staley.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is why you got to listen to NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: Even going back to trading camp, I was at Chargers camp.
Speaker 1: I asked our guy, Matt mney Smith, like, who's the
Speaker 1: Chargers player standing out that they look and his name
Speaker 1: was Dayon Henley.
Speaker 4: That this guy they really think is going to be
Speaker 4: the dude. I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1: Because they drafted someone they brought in free agent. But
Speaker 1: he was right on it in early August. That's that's
Speaker 1: why you got to listen to Patrick.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, yeah, of course, of course listening to NFL Daily.
Speaker 5: Glad to be a part of this franchise.
Speaker 2: I think he leads everybody in the Charges by like
Speaker 2: over forty tackles in total tackles so far this year.
Speaker 5: And this is a game for him to have another
Speaker 5: big performance in prime time, going up against this Ravens
Speaker 5: offense that has accumulated five hundred and ninety eight yards
Speaker 5: before contact on outside runs this season. As they kind
Speaker 5: of got the O line situation figured out early, we're
Speaker 5: waiting for him to get the defensive situation figured out.
Speaker 5: Greg Where Justin Herbert when he is not pressured, averages
Speaker 5: three point two more yards per attempt when you don't
Speaker 5: get pressure on Justin Herbert, and this team has struggled
Speaker 5: to generate pressure. I think back to the Broncos game
Speaker 5: where Bo Nicks was back there forever in the first half,
Speaker 5: and now we see Herbo with Quentin Johnston really coming on. Baldy.
Speaker 5: People kind of overrated those drops and his rookie season
Speaker 5: turns out, if you can get open, still a valuable
Speaker 5: skill set, and he's been able to do that. So
Speaker 5: it's hard to picture anything other than just a whole
Speaker 5: bunch of points here in this game, just from both teams.
Speaker 5: I love a score fest. I would prefer to not
Speaker 5: have the stress, yeah, but score fest why not?
Speaker 1: Baldi Patrick is a closet no longer in the closet.
Speaker 1: So what do you think, how do you think his
Speaker 1: defense the secondary holds up here?
Speaker 2: I announced that game in Pittsburgh last week with the Ravens.
Speaker 2: You know, they you know, Derrick Henry got it knocked
Speaker 2: out of his hands by Nick Herbig on the second
Speaker 2: play the game that led to points.
Speaker 3: You know, they Peyton Wilson, the rookie.
Speaker 2: Ripped the ball, you know, right out of Justice Hills
Speaker 2: hands on a wheel route. You know, they got three
Speaker 2: takeaways which really really helped the Steelers in their offense
Speaker 2: and the points. Justin Tucker, I'm not sure what to
Speaker 2: think like because he's missing extra points and field goals
Speaker 2: regularly right now. But the thing that's bizarre to me
Speaker 2: about this team is if they're behind or if they
Speaker 2: want to throw it, they take Derrick Henry off the field.
Speaker 2: And there's long stretches of games again, games against Cincinnati
Speaker 2: this year where they had to win late or in overtime,
Speaker 2: or even last week where Henry's not on the field.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I mean, Justice Hills, Fine, he's a good player,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't scare you.
Speaker 3: Maybe Keaton Mitchell, well, he didn't get much play.
Speaker 2: Last week, but I thought they got good pressure, you know,
Speaker 2: on Lamar last week enough where it really affected the
Speaker 2: way that he played. And so I think that's the key,
Speaker 2: when you can pressure Lamar and make him try to
Speaker 2: be Houdini back there regularly. When you take the threat
Speaker 2: of Derrick Henry and the big runs away, they seem
Speaker 2: to looked a little bit more pedestrian than what the statistics.
Speaker 3: Say right now.
Speaker 5: That's a great point.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just think there's too many penalties from
Speaker 1: this team Baltimore on both sides of the ball. They're
Speaker 1: leading the league, just just a little sloppy. See if
Speaker 1: they can get it going. One mismatch in this game,
Speaker 1: I think is when the Chargers run the ball. They
Speaker 1: just haven't been consistent in terms of their success rate,
Speaker 1: consistently being able to run. Ravens have been able to
Speaker 1: stop it. So I think it's gonna have to be
Speaker 1: all Herbo, and he's shown that he can do it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be going up against Trey White, who's had
Speaker 1: some good snaps for the Ravens last week.
Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: Before we move on, I do want to play this
Speaker 1: clip of Jim Harbaugh in the locker room after last
Speaker 1: week's game, and if there was any doubt about how
Speaker 1: much this team is buying in, you can forget about
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 3: This could be one of the best high fives ever
Speaker 3: give each other.
Speaker 4: Derwick Jamis is so intensive.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to like they're just like, that's
Speaker 1: the good stuff, right, Baldi.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, you know obviously JK Dobbins, you know,
Speaker 2: finish that game off eighteen seconds ago with that touchdown run,
Speaker 2: and you know there'd be a lot of coaches like
Speaker 2: maybe that one in Chicago that says, all right, we
Speaker 2: got the ball to the twenty six yard line, let's
Speaker 2: just kick the field goal. And he runs another play
Speaker 2: and JK takes it to the house and game over
Speaker 2: Chicago does and they just kick a field goal with
Speaker 2: thirty seconds ago and they get it blocked. Like there's
Speaker 2: just something about the way that hardball just has their
Speaker 2: pulse and knows when they're not a big, crazy fourth down,
Speaker 2: go four team, they're not like that.
Speaker 3: They take the points that are there.
Speaker 2: They kick field goals, all that stuff, But there is
Speaker 2: like an attack mentality that he still does. You're seeing
Speaker 2: the ball to Will Disley last week. I never thought
Speaker 2: Will Disley could run a seam route. I never seen
Speaker 2: him run. They hit him on two of them last week,
Speaker 2: you know, and all of a sudden, the ball's going
Speaker 2: down the field. And I thought, you know, as much
Speaker 2: as I want to see the Chargers win and pulling
Speaker 2: for hardball and it's good for La La sports all that,
Speaker 2: I thought, like, they're not going to be This is
Speaker 2: a showtime city. You got to put some points on
Speaker 2: the board. You gotta be fun. And they're starting to
Speaker 2: look a little bit more like showtime right now the
Speaker 2: way they played that game last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the crowd was jamming some of the videos
Speaker 1: that came from that. That was probably the best moment
Speaker 1: of in Chargers so Fi Freeze fiftory. I think was
Speaker 1: that JK. Dobbins touchdown because they went absolutely crazy.
Speaker 5: So I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that the atmosphere there, it has really taken hold.
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Speaker 1: we go from the smallest spreads the biggest thread. Doesn't
Speaker 1: always mean the best games are up top, but it
Speaker 1: worked out that way this week.
Speaker 4: So we got the good.
Speaker 1: Stuff with bald Because this NFC North game, to me,
Speaker 1: is a.
Speaker 4: Lot more intriguing than than it was a week ago.
Speaker 4: It's not paper much more.
Speaker 5: And in fact, if that kick, the circumstances changed with
Speaker 5: that kick, it gets a little more interesting. It's the
Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings three and a half point favorites. Baldy at
Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears, who suffered the heartbreaking loss. They get
Speaker 5: a chance to face their old friend Aaron Jones once again.
Speaker 5: Kevin Coogler, Darryl Johnston and Laura Oakman on the call
Speaker 5: over under his thirty nine. Not a lot of points
Speaker 5: expected in this one. We saw Sam Donald play well
Speaker 5: against the defense that started the season. Well, the Bears
Speaker 5: started the season. Well, what's Sam look like this?
Speaker 2: Tom Baldy, Well, I think he's playing just fine, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a lot of targets to throw too.
Speaker 2: They've replaced the left tackle, which looked like it was
Speaker 2: going to be a difficult loss.
Speaker 3: They made a good trade to get Cam Robinson in there.
Speaker 3: That helped.
Speaker 2: He's not Darrisol, but he's a lot better than their
Speaker 2: backup they had, So they've got good bounce. They're well coached.
Speaker 2: They do a lot of creative things in the passing
Speaker 2: game to help Sam out, whether it's putting Justin Jefferson
Speaker 2: in the backfield, I mean, there's a.
Speaker 3: Million different things they do.
Speaker 2: And Aaron Jones has been fantastic for them, as good
Speaker 2: as Josh Jacobs has been for Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones has been that guy.
Speaker 2: He doesn't miss a hole, his vision is unreal, and
Speaker 2: he's just a great receiver. So they got everything rolling
Speaker 2: right now. Offensively, I think they've got what it takes.
Speaker 2: And then defensively, you know, they take the ball away.
Speaker 2: I think they've got sixteen interceptions right now. They give
Speaker 2: the offense a lot of extract bats, So I think
Speaker 2: they played pretty good, complimentary football up in Minnesota right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really interested to see how Brian Flores
Speaker 1: has sort of backed off all the Blitzeres the last
Speaker 1: three weeks that maybe it was matchup related. He just
Speaker 1: wanted to confuse like a Will Levis, let's say, with
Speaker 1: just guys in coverage. But they went from being at
Speaker 1: the top of the league in terms of their blitz
Speaker 1: rate to the last three weeks about average being about thirteen.
Speaker 1: And they've now installed so many different crazy things in
Speaker 1: this Florists defense over the last year and a half
Speaker 1: that I feel like with this veteran crew and when
Speaker 1: Cashman's out there, they're doing all these disguised pressures and look,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a football coach, but I can see
Speaker 1: that they're throwing a lot at these opposing quarterbacks. They
Speaker 1: now have such a menu of different options that they
Speaker 1: can go to and these veteran players who can execute
Speaker 1: it at a high level that you don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen week to week. And spinning that to
Speaker 1: this week's game, I thought Caleb Williams was fantastic in
Speaker 1: that game a week goo easily his best game to me,
Speaker 1: even better than the one in London because of the
Speaker 1: types of places he had to make. And I'm really
Speaker 1: curious how Flores decides to attack him because his legs
Speaker 1: obviously were a big part of their offense early, and
Speaker 1: I would think that'd be maybe job one is trying
Speaker 1: to prevent that from happening.
Speaker 5: Well, he also got the ball out quicker. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: dropped his time to throw almost a half a second
Speaker 5: from two point nine seconds to start the season to
Speaker 5: in week eleven against Green Bay two point four to
Speaker 5: two seconds. Making decisions to get the ball out of
Speaker 5: his hands. Now, another thing that that did, it really
Speaker 5: decreased the air yards per attempt to DJ Moore, who
Speaker 5: was mainly doing his work on screen games in the outside.
Speaker 5: So it kind of takes the downfield threat away from DJ,
Speaker 5: but it gets some catchable balls, something that he struggled
Speaker 5: to get during that bad stretch for the Bears offense
Speaker 5: where it's we don't necessarily we're trying to figure out
Speaker 5: what this Bears team and offense is going to look like.
Speaker 5: It's kind of changed week to week, and so now
Speaker 5: we get two weeks in a row of an offensive
Speaker 5: coordinator where some positive things to believe with it. They
Speaker 5: always they almost came away with the win against the
Speaker 5: Green Bay Packers. So I'm excited to see just what
Speaker 5: version of the Chicago Bears, we get Baldy well, I.
Speaker 2: Mean to Greg's point here, Patrick, you know, they lost
Speaker 2: to Detroit and the Rams back to back weeks, and
Speaker 2: they gave up basically thirty points a game, and all
Speaker 2: that blitzing cost him, you know, when they played real
Speaker 2: varying quarterbacks right now in Stafford and Golf, and so
Speaker 2: he backed off I think because of that and said
Speaker 2: we can still win playing more traditional style.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna throw a lot of junk at
Speaker 2: Caleb because the offense line in front of him is
Speaker 2: very good, and so you know, whether it's attacking Matt
Speaker 2: pryor or attacking you know, Darnelle right or whoever. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think there's some matchups that they know they can win,
Speaker 2: so they might they might do a little bit more
Speaker 2: than what they have done this week to see how
Speaker 2: Kalbe handles it. Like, I know Caleb played better last week,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Like I'm not a big fan
Speaker 2: of the quarterback. Running nine times, he gained seventy yards.
Speaker 2: A lot of them were scrambles. I understand a couple
Speaker 2: of design read option runs. Okay, to get yourself you know,
Speaker 2: you know, five or six yards on first down or
Speaker 2: get a convert a third down.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of runs.
Speaker 2: Where I mean, he's taken off at the first sign
Speaker 2: that there's some pressure and I think that's too soon still,
Speaker 2: so we'll see how patient he is because this is
Speaker 2: not the team you want to do.
Speaker 4: That too, No, and that'll be tricky. And they've been
Speaker 4: getting pressure without blitzing.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is Jonathan Grenard and Van Ginkle like
Speaker 1: those are good players. It's a good test for Darnald too.
Speaker 1: I'm really fascinated by this game. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: it because Darnald's coming off a really great game against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: But the running game hasn't been as consistent for the
Speaker 1: Vikings lately. Maybe it was matchup base. We'll see, but
Speaker 1: this is a team the Bears, that you want to
Speaker 1: run the ball against it. They're a tough secondary to
Speaker 1: throw consistently against it. And man, the Vikings have they've
Speaker 1: just been about perfect beating everyone they should. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the two losses like that was a road game in LA.
Speaker 1: Those are two tough games that they lost, but all
Speaker 1: the teams that they should beat they have, which is
Speaker 1: really impressive.
Speaker 5: They are at eight and two.
Speaker 1: Also impressive Baldy's arms right there, he's showing them off
Speaker 1: the biceps. He's still getting the pumpin when he's not
Speaker 1: by the pool or grinding Hape. We appreciate Shabaldi, Thank
Speaker 1: you for for joining us, Thanks.
Speaker 2: For having Patrick. Good seeing my buddies up there in LA.
Speaker 3: Keep it down.
Speaker 2: I hope to get out there one of these days,
Speaker 2: maybe going to playoffs or whatever. So call me anytime,
Speaker 2: Happy to join you, guys.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Love breaking the stuff down.
Speaker 1: I love having you. Appreciate Shabaldi And yes, okay, let
Speaker 1: us know back in La we'll be holding it down
Speaker 1: here in the Chris Westling podcast here. So we still
Speaker 1: got a bunch of games to go here, Patrick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to a.
Speaker 5: Team that blew out the Atlanta Falcons a week ago. Now,
Speaker 5: Bo Nicks and the Denver Broncos go on the road
Speaker 5: where they are five and a half point favorites against
Speaker 5: the Las Vegas Raiders and brock Bauers. Kevin Harlan aka God,
Speaker 5: Trent Green and Melanie Collins on this game, looking forward
Speaker 5: to will it be a game for them? Greg? Because
Speaker 5: other than brock Bauers, what are we excited about in
Speaker 5: Las Vegas right now. Nothing.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I used to kind of think when you see this
Speaker 1: on shows, right get you get towards the end of
Speaker 1: the year, it's a bad team. You just start skipping
Speaker 1: those teams, or it's just people that don't know what
Speaker 1: to say, and I'm like, well, that's lazy. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta there's always things to find that are interesting.
Speaker 1: There's little angles to talk about. But this Raiders is
Speaker 1: tough for me. Beyond Bowers, who's awesome, it's tough.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about this team anymore.
Speaker 1: To me, it's just more of a test of how
Speaker 1: much is Sean Payton cooking can they can they be
Speaker 1: a team that does what they did last week, which
Speaker 1: is not just win the games you're supposed to win,
Speaker 1: and they're they've gotten quite good at that, but cover
Speaker 1: five and a half points on the road in the division.
Speaker 1: Because that's a different sort of team that to me
Speaker 1: is a playoff team. I don't know if they win
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs, but if you're the type of
Speaker 1: team that you're that reliable with a rookie quarterback on
Speaker 1: a week to week basis to take care of what
Speaker 1: you need to because your line play is so good
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. I just give Payton
Speaker 1: all the credit in the world because he is creating
Speaker 1: some open receivers for Nicks. I want to give Nicks credit.
Speaker 1: He's got three or four throws each game that he
Speaker 1: was not making early in the season. But also, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give him that much credit for the
Speaker 1: two touchdowns where he just throws a smoke route, like
Speaker 1: one of them's on third and goal at the fourteen,
Speaker 1: the type of throw that's like, why are you throwing that?
Speaker 1: It's a give up play, And like Mims is just
Speaker 1: walking into the end zone.
Speaker 4: And there was another one like that. Like two things
Speaker 4: can be true.
Speaker 1: Peyton can be absolutely in his bag and Knicks can
Speaker 1: be doing what he needs to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, both things can be true. And that's why I
Speaker 5: feel comfortable with the five and a half points, because
Speaker 5: I think Denver does win the game, and we have
Speaker 5: seen it late in several games this season, Sean Payton
Speaker 5: will run it up and I'm not sure not being.
Speaker 1: Critical on all, they're just now he hears about stats,
Speaker 1: and I like that he cares about the numbers.
Speaker 5: But hey, something interesting about the Raiders. I just pulled
Speaker 5: up spot wreck. Jack Jones is gonna ben understated free
Speaker 5: agent in twenty twenty six. Maybe there's that cold. We
Speaker 5: could keep our eye on Max Crosby, who has been
Speaker 5: not not the typical Max Crosby type season, but he
Speaker 5: does lead the team in pressure sixteen quick pressures, which
Speaker 5: is very important, very valuable, which is pressures under two
Speaker 5: and a half seconds. Other than that, we've got Gardner
Speaker 5: Minshew starting another game. We've discussed Brock Bauers, who had
Speaker 5: a rookie record with thirteen catches and would have been
Speaker 5: noticed more in the fantasy community if Taysom Hill didn't
Speaker 5: go nuclear.
Speaker 1: Notice by me in my fantasy community, I beat the
Speaker 1: number one team in my league with Rock.
Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations to Brock Owers for powering Greg to the
Speaker 5: win there. But then on top of that, Bence Joseph's
Speaker 5: defense playing very very well at issue and again we
Speaker 5: have to asterisk the Kirk Cousins performances where I don't
Speaker 5: really know what was going on with the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 5: offense this past week. Tough to evaluate whether that was
Speaker 5: mostly Broncos or mostly.
Speaker 1: I get Broncos credit because we haven't really seen that
Speaker 1: consistently out of Kirk. I give it to the offense too, actually,
Speaker 1: because it's complimentary. I don't think Kirk played bad the
Speaker 1: first half of that game. There were just weren't many drives,
Speaker 1: and they settled for a couple of field goals and
Speaker 1: one ended in a funky way with the penalty, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly you're down twenty one to six and these
Speaker 1: pass rushers are are just getting after you. I think
Speaker 1: the last thing I'll say on this game is just
Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton and this team kind of had
Speaker 1: a statement of intent. They haven't given out many new,
Speaker 1: big contracts to hold over players since he got there.
Speaker 5: It's a bunch of new guys.
Speaker 1: They gave a big contract right before the season to
Speaker 1: the man with the belly, Quinn Minors, not a nationally
Speaker 1: known name, but just kind of a lunch pale, really
Speaker 1: strong guard, and that actually, I think was a little
Speaker 1: bit of a statement of intent of like, this is
Speaker 1: where we're going to try to be good, and they
Speaker 1: really have been.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember it because I was in Denver for
Speaker 5: training camp and it was before there's a Tan deal,
Speaker 5: and I asked Patrick because like, hey, how much do
Speaker 5: you think about this is I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, okay, And then a few
Speaker 5: weeks later, Yeah, big money are going to number two
Speaker 5: as well. So congratulations to a team that we think
Speaker 5: is playoff bound in the in for Broncos, well maybe not.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Spoiler alert, we'll see I do. Oh, well,
Speaker 5: there we go. We both think the Broncos are going
Speaker 5: to the PA.
Speaker 1: That's which is bad news for the Bengals. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the team that they need to fall off.
Speaker 5: Let's go to a team that is not going to
Speaker 5: the playoffs in fact, might be making more changes. As
Speaker 5: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers get Mike Evans back. They are
Speaker 5: six point favorites against Tommy DeVito and the New York Giants.
Speaker 5: Andrew Catalan, Tiki Barber, Jason mccordy and aj Ross on
Speaker 5: the call. The over under is forty one and a
Speaker 5: half points. Greg I was thinking for the past few
Speaker 5: weeks that this would be Drew Locke. There's questions about
Speaker 5: whether or not Drew Lock's contract plays into the decision,
Speaker 5: as well as Danny dimes.
Speaker 4: No, I don't buy that, not at all. I don't
Speaker 4: not even.
Speaker 5: All Vito all the time.
Speaker 1: No question that the Giants are not starting Tommy DeVito, Okay,
Speaker 1: because Drew Lock has like five hundred thousand dollars in incentives.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you looked at those incentives,
Speaker 1: the incentives are based on Drew Lock being great. He's
Speaker 1: not like he wasn't even gonna hit those and said,
Speaker 1: I don't buy that for a second. I truly believe
Speaker 1: Dr Brian Dable does not like Drew Lock like he
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't like a few people, this is, this is,
Speaker 1: and he likes Timmy DeVito. Yeah, so I truly believe
Speaker 1: he does not like how Drew Block Drew Locke plays football,
Speaker 1: maybe even personally with some of the ways that they've
Speaker 1: I've just been noticing some of the little things they say.
Speaker 5: I just something's going on there. It's weird. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: it's it's been it's been a couple of years, and
Speaker 5: they do it. Uh, start de Vito at home against
Speaker 5: a Bucks team that has been fighting, Greg scrapping and
Speaker 5: calling since Chris Godwin and Mike Evans go down, and
Speaker 5: that loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Mike Evans practicing this week,
Speaker 5: the big piece of the offense literally and figuratively comes back.
Speaker 5: MVP Baker back right with Mike Evans back.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go that far, but it's funny since
Speaker 1: I gave you the most grief about talking to him
Speaker 1: about the m v P. I actually think on balance
Speaker 1: he's played better more consistently. You know who he is
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. The numbers are great.
Speaker 1: There was that game against the forty nine ers before
Speaker 1: Thereby where at a certain point it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the ball's coming out too quick, like he was barely
Speaker 1: holding it. It was like a touch pass. He was
Speaker 1: getting the snap and immediately it's just like it was
Speaker 1: like a push pass. And it was like, it's hard
Speaker 1: to build an offense that way, like it's all running
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends because they're wide receivers. Just aren't
Speaker 1: those dudes. But now you get that dude back. And
Speaker 1: I mentioned Puka and aj Brown, the difference between when
Speaker 1: they're on the field and not. I don't think Mike
Speaker 1: Evans is at that level anymore. I think that's fair
Speaker 1: to say, but he's close and for this team. He's
Speaker 1: so important and what a great week. My most lukewarm take,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's that how to take is
Speaker 1: that the Bucks are still going to win this division.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a medium take. I'm gonna put it out
Speaker 1: there on Blue Sky and see what people think.
Speaker 5: It was much warmer before the Falcons went and got.
Speaker 1: Dominant, right, But that's what I was expecting to start happening,
Speaker 1: Not dominant, but just them to come back to earth.
Speaker 5: One thing that's really come back to earth is the
Speaker 5: opportunity for Malik Neighbors. Since week five, Darius Slayton's actually
Speaker 5: the leading receiver on this team. Is that probably also
Speaker 5: Advito's spot. Do we go to Tommy Cutlets because Dimes
Speaker 5: was not feeding Malik. That's an interesting theory.
Speaker 1: I just got to imagine it's something to do with
Speaker 1: the defenses and how they're coming after Neighbors, although they
Speaker 1: managed to get it to him earlier. I mean, Dimes
Speaker 1: wasn't hitting balls down the field. I don't know if Dafedo, well.
Speaker 5: Both of them on the Flicker.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know if Davido will I know Dexter
Speaker 1: Lawrence said that's my best friend on the team. He's
Speaker 1: also the best quarterback on the team. They came in
Speaker 1: together in that draft class that Dave Gettleman, you know,
Speaker 1: probably set the franchise back a little with that pick
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones and yet got it all pro with
Speaker 1: pick number seventeen. So that's you know, batt in five hundred.
Speaker 1: That's not that bad for for drafting. I really want
Speaker 1: to see them take advantage now that Evans is on
Speaker 1: the field of how good these running backs are playing.
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by Bucky Irving and Rassadwahy. It is
Speaker 1: a really nice combination. They're complementary. Sad White is so
Speaker 1: good on passing downs, really good pass blocker. Irving makes
Speaker 1: people miss These are the bizarro Bucks. It's all about
Speaker 1: the running backs again, and I hope that their defense
Speaker 1: comes out of the by with some solutions because they
Speaker 1: just it just wasn't the Bucks defense were used to seeing.
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield was not the Antoine Winfield we're used to see.
Speaker 1: He he I don't think has been healthy this year,
Speaker 1: so hopefully the week off helps him, and I think
Speaker 1: it was a hamstring injury that he was playing through.
Speaker 5: It. It's an interesting bind that when it comes in
Speaker 5: where you at least coming into the game, you see
Speaker 5: the game script. If it's a passing game script, then
Speaker 5: you know Rashad White. If it's a rushing game script,
Speaker 5: you know Bucky Irving. But do you want to tip
Speaker 5: the plays by having them back there and doing that?
Speaker 5: And how did they approach that? Not as much we
Speaker 5: think of a problem.
Speaker 1: I'm go make a run Bucks, I'm on with six points, Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm gonna I'll take the Giants covering that
Speaker 1: six on game debut, and I'm on a heater right
Speaker 1: now on game debuts.
Speaker 5: So watch out.
Speaker 1: But I still would take the Bucks to win this
Speaker 1: game and start beating the poor sisters of the NFL.
Speaker 4: You got the Panthers, you got the Raiders next, Like,
Speaker 4: let's stack some wins.
Speaker 5: But Cutlets does not have the Giants in that category.
Speaker 5: Greg Rosenhall a believer. Maybe I can talk Greg into
Speaker 5: picking the Giants. No chance. Speaking of teams that Greg
Speaker 5: loves the New England Patriots at the Miami Dolphins, who
Speaker 5: are a seven and a half point favorite. Spirodinis, Adam
Speaker 5: Marchiletta and our friend a Dita Kikabwala on the call
Speaker 5: the Dolphins defense playing spectacularly greg in these past few weeks.
Speaker 5: To go with a complimentary performance, but by their offense
Speaker 5: where two in company taking care of the ball? John
Speaker 5: who Smith really getting involved? Is Drake May enough to
Speaker 5: beat the Dolphins?
Speaker 1: Probably not, because I think Miami just has better personnel
Speaker 1: and better coaching overall. He went back and forth Jordan
Speaker 1: Rodrigue and I about Alex Van Pelt on the last
Speaker 1: show and at you know what, they have made more sense.
Speaker 1: They've looked like an NFL offense, and maybe give him
Speaker 1: some grace to that. It took a little while to
Speaker 1: get it going. You got the new quarterback. But I
Speaker 1: think it's mostly Drake May making them look better. But
Speaker 1: it has been better. They're finding ways to get to
Speaker 1: Mario Douglas and Kendrick Bourne open, and those are your
Speaker 1: two best players. Kendrick Bourne makes a huge difference on
Speaker 1: this offense. He didn't play a snap. No one cares
Speaker 1: about the Patriots, but he didn't play a snap two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and like no one talked about it. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it was like a team discipline move, and yet
Speaker 1: there was like no reporting on it whatsoever. Anyways, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Dolphins defense is playing that well.
Speaker 1: I don't think they played well last week. Actually, you
Speaker 1: give up four straight drives of like fourteen plays to
Speaker 1: the Raiders and give up a lot of points for drive.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they played that well. They're a very
Speaker 1: unpredictable group. Jalen Ramsey is playing great. Their linebackers kind
Speaker 1: of like the Seahawks. They figured it out. They're different
Speaker 1: with Seler in cam in there together. Top Robinson's playing better.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking myself into it, but I do not
Speaker 1: think that was a good performance against Gardner Minshew. How
Speaker 1: do you let brock Bauers just be open? He's the
Speaker 1: only guy.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe Jacobe Myers is just too much of a factor.
Speaker 5: They get him back. I do want to shout out
Speaker 5: seventeen year veteran Kalaiis Campbell, top eleven in pressure rate
Speaker 5: among defensive tackles this season, still doing it, playing at
Speaker 5: a very high level. I'm glad that both Steve and
Speaker 5: Jordan were able to tag team you to get you
Speaker 5: off of this Alex Van Pelt mission of justice where
Speaker 5: you were bemoaning it and now here we are a
Speaker 5: week later.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't feel that much differently. Their offensive lines
Speaker 1: still trash. I'm just saying it looks more like an
Speaker 1: NFL offense. It makes a little more sense me. By
Speaker 1: the way, we asked Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator of
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, on this very program, NFL Daily, about
Speaker 1: Kalays Campbell. He had some great stuff and that's going
Speaker 1: to be part of the Thursday night I'm looking recap show,
Speaker 1: so check listen for that. This was the game Christian
Speaker 1: Gonzalez's rookie year, which made me and plenty of film
Speaker 1: watchers believe that this young man could be a really
Speaker 1: special pro because he played man to man on Tyreek
Speaker 1: for most of that game, and you just don't see
Speaker 1: that Tyreek got one on him, but for the most
Speaker 1: part he really battled. So I'm really looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: They didn't use Gonzales that way against pokin Akua last
Speaker 1: week and everyone got all up in arms about it,
Speaker 1: so we'll see if that's what they do this week.
Speaker 1: That would be really fun because he's been a little
Speaker 1: under the radar, but I still have all my Christian
Speaker 1: Gonzales stock. I think he's been fantastic this year. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the Pro Bowl this year, he will
Speaker 1: in future years, and I think he could make it
Speaker 1: this year, that's how good he's been.
Speaker 5: The foundational pieces. Greg loves some Christian Gonzales, Drake May.
Speaker 5: We'll see how things go for those England patriots looking forward.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Alexy and Pale, I'm glad you brought this up.
Speaker 1: Okay, get him, I'm not getting him, Oh okay. There
Speaker 1: was a story by Albert Breer, our old coworker, that
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft was calling around asking like who would be
Speaker 1: the right offensive mind to pair with Drake May. And
Speaker 1: this really got under Drodmeo's skin to the point where
Speaker 1: he addressed it publicly, I believe multiple times and once
Speaker 1: I think, even unprompted about just these reports are totally
Speaker 1: this is bogus. And I believe in my guy and
Speaker 1: Van Pell, and he's been really pumping up Van Pelt
Speaker 1: that he should get a lot of the credit, and
Speaker 1: we love Van Pell. And it felt a little bit
Speaker 1: like a DOFT protest. Too much situation, but just interesting
Speaker 1: that maybe me and Robert Craft are on the same
Speaker 1: page here. He might be looking around to see or
Speaker 1: just calls folks. Has it got out there? I know
Speaker 1: how the game is played. I mean, it's interesting that
Speaker 1: that is just out there. Let's take a quick break,
Speaker 1: because we got more games to get to a fun game.
Speaker 1: I said, all the good games were up top, but
Speaker 1: a fun game coming up the Lions and the Colts.
Speaker 1: Back after after this, back on NFL Daily, I feel
Speaker 1: bad because I think I took this game in terms
Speaker 1: of our assignments on Sunday, hoping that Colts Lions.
Speaker 5: It's fun. It's a fun game, A fun game with
Speaker 5: a couple of teams. The Detroit Lions seven and a
Speaker 5: half point favorites against Anthony Richardson, coming off a win
Speaker 5: against the Jets that I loved and hated because of
Speaker 5: a dumb pick that I made fifty and a half
Speaker 5: the over under Kenny Albert, Jonathan Bilba, and Meghan A.
Speaker 5: Leeviy get to watch Greg. This Detroit Lions offense that,
Speaker 5: aside from that random night Sunday night in Houston, has
Speaker 5: been on fire for a month plus. A'mon Ross Saint
Speaker 5: Brown looking to extend his touchdown streak to nine games.
Speaker 5: He's already got a franchise. Wow, this what do Anthony
Speaker 5: rig So? Then the Colts and the Colts defense and
Speaker 5: Gus Bradley, How can they contend with this juggernaut right now?
Speaker 4: Greg, I don't think they can.
Speaker 1: Defensively, We're at the point where you see seven and
Speaker 1: a half for the Lions on the road against a
Speaker 1: competitive team, like an average team is what I would
Speaker 1: call the Colts, and you think, like that's probably not enough,
Speaker 1: like cause just on that side of the ball, it's
Speaker 1: always it's always a mismatch. DVA numbers go back to
Speaker 1: the eighties or to I think the late seventies now,
Speaker 1: and that's like a total efficiency metric that I really
Speaker 1: love that evalue its play by play. It takes opponents
Speaker 1: into account. Through ten weeks of the season, they're third
Speaker 1: all time. The two teams ahead of them were the
Speaker 1: seven Patriots and the ninety three Washington team, which are
Speaker 1: two of the greatest teams of all time, or was
Speaker 1: it the ninety one team in Washington? Like, there's no
Speaker 1: chance the Colts have enough answers defensively. Now the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball is more interesting, and the Colts
Speaker 1: defense I think has played better. But let's not get
Speaker 1: carried away, like the Jets put up twenty seven points
Speaker 1: in the end against them. This Colts defense to me
Speaker 1: is hoping to be average and like the Lions, they
Speaker 1: just It's the most consistent thing in the world. By
Speaker 1: the way, is if you own Jamiir Gibbs and David
Speaker 1: Montgomery and fantasy like my son does he drafting them both,
Speaker 1: like literally every single week they come through.
Speaker 4: Every single week they come through.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the highest rush success rate on design runs this season,
Speaker 5: where they only get contacted behind the line of scrimmage
Speaker 5: thirty five percent of the time. It's and with both
Speaker 5: David Montgomery and Jamior Gibbs, who can make you miss
Speaker 5: in the open field in two different ways. I think
Speaker 5: people kind of conceptualize Jamiir Gibbs as the home run hitter,
Speaker 5: but when David Montgomery's breaking tackles like he is, I mean,
Speaker 5: you get explosive plays off of that as well. That
Speaker 5: combined with golf and i'man Ross Saint Brown JMO comes
Speaker 5: back from the suspension, he scores the long time great.
Speaker 5: It's there's so much to deal with. Not to mention
Speaker 5: Sam Laporta, I guess I am mentioning here Tim Patrick
Speaker 5: flashing across the screen as well.
Speaker 1: Like they're indoors. I always like them a little better indoors.
Speaker 1: When I like any offense better indoors than they will
Speaker 1: be indoors, maybe they'll maybe they'll open up the roupe
Speaker 1: at Lucasfield. The other side of the ball is more interestingly,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Jonathan Taylor needing to get going,
Speaker 1: because actual he actually really didn't against these was kind
Speaker 1: of concerning. Clearly, Sheen Steiken went into that game saying,
Speaker 1: we're gonna win by running the ball. The very first
Speaker 1: play of the game was a quarterback power run to
Speaker 1: the outfit outside.
Speaker 4: Didn't really work.
Speaker 1: To be honest, Anthony Richardson's runs didn't really work no
Speaker 1: other than the goal line runs. So that worries me
Speaker 1: because I think matchup wise, I think I'd much rather
Speaker 1: be a team that is passed first against the Lions.
Speaker 1: They're very good stopping the run. They're pretty tough up front.
Speaker 1: I think the best way to beat the Lions is
Speaker 1: a true drop back passer that can really sling it.
Speaker 1: And that's as good as Richardson was, and he hits
Speaker 1: them very difficult throws last week.
Speaker 5: That's a tough ask. Yeah, uh, throws with a high
Speaker 5: degree of difficulty. I think the completion percentage over expected
Speaker 5: in the positive side for Anthony Richardson. And I think
Speaker 5: this game at the very least changes, uh, the perception
Speaker 5: of Anthony Richardson where he had those those bad games
Speaker 5: against good defenses. And then Joe Flacco comes in and
Speaker 5: of course that whole charade happens, but he gets his
Speaker 5: job back, and here.
Speaker 1: Is that Claybohn victory lap on poor Joe. It's unseemly frankly,
Speaker 1: you know it's not.
Speaker 5: It's not on Joe Flacco. This is not nothing personal against.
Speaker 5: I'm just evaluating the things that I see, much as
Speaker 5: the way that you feel.
Speaker 1: About I love I love I love seeing Patrick like
Speaker 1: subtly spike the football.
Speaker 4: You're just so professional about it that.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that I will literally spike of football.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm glad he's playing. Glad he's back playing.
Speaker 5: He gets a chance to develop and be I think
Speaker 5: the player that that he can be. And when it
Speaker 5: doesn't work against the Detroit Lions, people aren't gonna say, oh,
Speaker 5: he's you know, he's not viable. It's like, oh, well,
Speaker 5: he's playing against a good football team. The other team's
Speaker 5: going up and down the field at will we just
Speaker 5: need to give him some time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Lions rush defense is fourth in success rate over
Speaker 1: the last month. They've got playmaking safeties who love to
Speaker 1: come down, especially Brian branch in the in the box.
Speaker 1: So I do think this is a tough matchup, like
Speaker 1: like I said, because of just the way that I
Speaker 1: think you need to be able to beat the Lions.
Speaker 1: And I do not think this will be the fourth
Speaker 1: game that the Lions win by more than thirty five points.
Speaker 4: I think it'll be much more competitive.
Speaker 1: But I do worry that Anthony Richardson, just because of
Speaker 1: the game script, will take a step back, and I
Speaker 1: would take the Lions, you know, winning by fifteen points
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 5: A fantasy note for folks out there with six teams
Speaker 5: on a buy this week, if you would like to
Speaker 5: to lean hard on hoping for some Alec Pierce garbage
Speaker 5: tom points, I think this might be a good week
Speaker 5: to do that if he is available in league. Let's
Speaker 5: go to another team in the AFC South, the Houston
Speaker 5: Texans at home against the Tennessee Titans, a divisional matchup.
Speaker 5: They are eight and a half point favorites greg where
Speaker 5: they haven't really had those dominant wins that came late
Speaker 5: against the Dallas Cowboys. Going up against Will Levison Company
Speaker 5: over under forty two. Tom McCarthy, J Feeley, Ross Tucker
Speaker 5: and Amanda Ballyonis on the call. Does C. J. Stroud
Speaker 5: get things going back better in the second game with Nico.
Speaker 1: Collins better because I like the matchup because I think
Speaker 1: there's some familiarity that could go both ways, certainly, but
Speaker 1: they did sweep the Titans last year. One was in overtime,
Speaker 1: it was close. I think through you know, you'll be
Speaker 1: able to get some open receivers against Tennessee's that's how
Speaker 1: you beat him. But I think it's still a dangerous
Speaker 1: game for the Texans because I really doubt Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: is gonna get going in this game the title. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing that Titans really do well. They totally
Speaker 1: shut down Minnesota last week on the ground, and so
Speaker 1: you make Seach Stroud one dimensional, and I think he's
Speaker 1: better because of the matchup. But man, I just don't
Speaker 1: think the Texans not to give away our Man Versus
Speaker 1: Machine show on Friday, but man eight and a half points,
Speaker 1: the Texans to me are just not a team that
Speaker 1: should be that favored in a division matchup over anyone.
Speaker 1: I do think the Titans have played a little better
Speaker 1: with Will Levis at quarterback the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Hasn't totally showed up on the scoreboard, I know, but
Speaker 1: eye tests wise, I do think they're a better team
Speaker 1: with him at quarterback. And I think it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a dangerous game. So I am forecasting a
Speaker 1: little of what you can look forward to on that
Speaker 1: show on Friday, which, by the way, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just keep honking about it.
Speaker 5: Do it.
Speaker 1: The two of us are fifteen and three combined of
Speaker 1: them last three weeks.
Speaker 5: That's pretty good. Yeah, better than better than pretty good.
Speaker 5: I do want to speaking of streaks in terms of
Speaker 5: making picks, would you be willing to survive on the
Speaker 5: Houston Tech.
Speaker 4: Oh, I kind of forgot about survivor.
Speaker 5: We don't have Steve wa so I guess you could
Speaker 5: put an asterisk on here.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go look at the teams that we've
Speaker 1: taken so far. I'm going to say no, because my
Speaker 1: vibes are that the Titans keep this game close.
Speaker 5: I think it's a dangerous game.
Speaker 1: I do not want to do the survivor, and I
Speaker 1: do see our next game I think is one that
Speaker 1: I feel even better about. And Eric, our producer, will
Speaker 1: check to make sure we haven't taken that team.
Speaker 5: If it is closer. The Texans interior offensive line giving
Speaker 5: up the third most pressures in the league this season,
Speaker 5: one hundred and twelve. They have to deal with Jeffrey
Speaker 5: Simmons coming in this week, and you mentioned Will Levis
Speaker 5: playing a little bit better. The penalties took off a
Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley, yes touchdown. Ever since Calvin Ridley went on
Speaker 5: a profanity lace tirade, more targets going in this direction.
Speaker 5: It's good. Things have worked out. And even if plays
Speaker 5: get called back, the vibes from initially going in the
Speaker 5: end zone, Yeah that's going they'll count well. He seems
Speaker 5: like a vibes guy. He has five hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: yards this season. Do you know that no one else
Speaker 5: has even half that on the Titans this season? Can
Speaker 5: you guess who their second leading receiver is?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: Nwy it is now? Yes, because he had ninety eight
Speaker 1: last week. Now he's up to like two twenty something.
Speaker 5: Does Nukes still on there?
Speaker 4: Nuke's like, yeah, he's one ninety two it's ugly.
Speaker 1: Lewis though surprisingly not in the top ten in the
Speaker 1: league and turnover worthy play percentage. It just was the
Speaker 1: interceptions that he had. He actually doesn't have that many
Speaker 1: interceptions either. He looks very mechanical to me. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be it. I don't think that's controversial.
Speaker 1: Like when he's like going through his reads, you can
Speaker 1: almost hear the coaching. It's like one to two to three.
Speaker 1: And he's taking a ton of sacks the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, I think in an effort to not make mistakes.
Speaker 1: And I think that's positive because when he's thrown it,
Speaker 1: he's thrown it pretty well. So what I think he
Speaker 1: is gonna be is an NFL quarterback that has a
Speaker 1: long career as a backup in maybe a frisky bridge
Speaker 1: type of guy. That's where I see him as. But
Speaker 1: I think that's an upgrade from Mason Rudolph at least.
Speaker 1: And it's division game. I just think their offensive line
Speaker 1: gets so confused too, like they never know who to block,
Speaker 1: and it's bad.
Speaker 5: He's gonna have to make the mistakes, Like you don't
Speaker 5: have a quarterback that is a Will Levis that that
Speaker 5: makes plays like you're gonna have to take some risks.
Speaker 5: We don't want to see safety Will Levis. We want
Speaker 5: to see the guy that you know gets people fired
Speaker 5: up and maybe he's gonna make pushes and fan bases
Speaker 5: to try to take somebody's job. Here, I have some
Speaker 5: breaking news for you.
Speaker 1: Eric has let us know the Texans, the Commanders, and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have all been taken already this season for
Speaker 1: our survivors. So we're gonna have to We're go back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back. Let's wrap the show with that.
Speaker 1: So we'll think about it in between. Yeah, raps for
Speaker 1: all you with our with our final pick, let's go
Speaker 1: to Let's go to the NFCS game.
Speaker 5: Why not? Yeah, let's do it. Greg. It's a revenge
Speaker 5: opportunity for Dan Quinn, whose defense has had twenty five
Speaker 5: sacks since Week four, playing against Cooper Rush, who threw
Speaker 5: them all fifty five times for some reason. On Monday
Speaker 5: Night Football, the Washington Commanders eighteen and a half point favorite.
Speaker 5: Joe Davis, g Rag and Pam Oliver on the call, Greg,
Speaker 5: we saw Dallas kind of have a similar situation where
Speaker 5: they weren't able to run the ball, had to throw
Speaker 5: the ball a ton against Houston without Will Anderson Junior
Speaker 5: if he was playing, which he's back. As we look
Speaker 5: back to that last game, congratulations of the Texan. Good
Speaker 5: him back, But it could have been even worse, Greg,
Speaker 5: so much worse.
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why I don't really believe
Speaker 1: in the Texans that much right now. They just haven't
Speaker 1: shown it. The Commanders really haven't either. They haven't been
Speaker 1: at the level I think of concern of the Texans
Speaker 1: offense throughout the courts of the season. But the numbers
Speaker 1: are the numbers last two weeks under six yards per
Speaker 1: attempt for Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's far from where he was.
Speaker 1: He's taken six sacks over those two games, hadn't been
Speaker 1: taking a lot of sacks and provided next to no
Speaker 1: rushing value. People want to make it like it's the ribs.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time with that because just speculating
Speaker 1: about injuries is difficult, and the the first two games
Speaker 1: after that injury he played really well. So maybe it is.
Speaker 1: Maybe it isn't. I just think that's irrelevant to me
Speaker 1: right now. He's just not quite as accurate. The decision
Speaker 1: making hasn't been as comfortable. He's certainly not running well,
Speaker 1: but the run game overall hasn't been nearly as good
Speaker 1: in terms of Eckeler and Brian Robinson consistently getting five
Speaker 1: or six yards. So I do like that they have
Speaker 1: a little extra rest here. I think that makes a difference.
Speaker 1: And I do thank the schedule gods for serving up
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team at the perfect time, because I think
Speaker 1: this they need to get right game Washington, and not
Speaker 1: just they let's win the game, but let's feel good
Speaker 1: about like a twenty eight thirty two point offensive performance
Speaker 1: where we get the Cliff Kingsbury falling off a cliff
Speaker 1: people off our backs and just feel better about this season.
Speaker 5: And I do believe they'll be able to do that.
Speaker 5: I I didn't want to be greg I'm I think
Speaker 5: I'm one of those Cliff Kingsbury offense falling off the
Speaker 5: ledge at the end of the season. I might be
Speaker 5: too type people. Terry McLaurin, perhaps get Nuke Hopkins on
Speaker 5: the phone and see how to work this out. Maybe
Speaker 5: Nuke has some hindsight that he could turn into Terry's
Speaker 5: foresight because he's aligned as the left outside receiver on
Speaker 5: seventy five point eight percent of his snaps this season.
Speaker 5: Isolated on twenty six and a half percent of those snaps,
Speaker 5: we saw Quinnon Mitchell, who's over on that side all
Speaker 5: the time, the Washington commanders.
Speaker 4: Just with the safety too. It's not like it's just
Speaker 4: him just.
Speaker 5: Accepted that this was the matchup that we're gonna give
Speaker 5: Terry and I went and if you if you have
Speaker 5: NFL Pro I think you should if you're listening to
Speaker 5: our show, go use it because you can go to
Speaker 5: the film room and look at a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: different scenarios. Terry mcclarin has been in motion five times
Speaker 5: this season.
Speaker 1: Greg, that's concerning five and just thinking about this matchup too,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess maybe it's Trevon Diggs. I actually
Speaker 1: do think the Cowboys defense has been more competitive.
Speaker 5: It helps when you.
Speaker 1: Add Mike Goes back, but I just overall they've been
Speaker 1: more headed over the last couple of weeks, and they've
Speaker 1: just they hold on and they hold on until their
Speaker 1: offense just makes it impossible in their their doors get
Speaker 1: kicked in at the very end. But I think they've
Speaker 1: been more competitive. So this to me is a stay away.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to watch it. Well, I just mean,
Speaker 1: like they're such big favorites and everything I've been saying
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are. They're the worst team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I stand by that they would be number thirty
Speaker 1: two for me. But I just want to go watch
Speaker 1: this game and I hope Washington's offense shows up.
Speaker 5: That's all. Well, it's the Cowboys, so you're gonna have
Speaker 5: a chance to watch it.
Speaker 1: No, I got the power of the Cowboys that they
Speaker 1: get g Reg in this game.
Speaker 5: Give me a break free money check and shout out
Speaker 5: to g Rec who isn't isn't pouting as it, just
Speaker 5: taking his operation work and putting in great work, good
Speaker 5: stuff on film. You'll be back on that squad any moment,
Speaker 5: g Reg. Let's go to our final game, Greg before
Speaker 5: we make our Survivor pick. It's not eligible for Survivor pick.
Speaker 5: Fun fact about this game. There's been a TikTok trend
Speaker 5: for weeks citing that the Kansas City Chiefs would fall
Speaker 5: in their first game to Bryce Young in the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5: Has been a fun meme. It did not happen because
Speaker 5: the Bills went head took care of business. Kansas City
Speaker 5: ten and a half point favorites at Carolina coming off
Speaker 5: of the buy with the over under a forty three
Speaker 5: iron eagle against. Shout out to my man who pointed
Speaker 5: out that I'm saying Big Bird's name wrong. It is,
Speaker 5: in fact iron I didn't know. I don't know why.
Speaker 5: I guess it's Rapaport's fault. Charles Davis and Evan Roshburn
Speaker 5: on the call. Jonathan Brooks may play in this game.
Speaker 5: That's fine, cause Carolina do this. Greg Does the Chiefs
Speaker 5: lose two in a row?
Speaker 4: Can Panthers win three in a row? I want to
Speaker 4: watch it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is the Bryce with Canals thing a thing? Because I've
Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen consistency. Now you're coming off of
Speaker 1: bye against a much tougher opponent than who they face
Speaker 1: so far, and that's that's what real quarterback growth is
Speaker 1: doing it on a week to week consistent base. And
Speaker 1: so I am intrigued to watch that. When the Panthers
Speaker 1: have the.
Speaker 5: Ball, and again this Chiefs defense doing things that we
Speaker 5: haven't seen them do. And all credit going to Buffalo
Speaker 5: for making the plays that they did, but that was
Speaker 5: just a rough performance by Spags squad on the road
Speaker 5: and here's a really let's be honest, an overmatched Panthers
Speaker 5: offense are going up against this group where.
Speaker 1: Good line coming off of bye? Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not good do it? I mean, I'm not on TikTok.
Speaker 1: I'm too old for that.
Speaker 5: I'll post some of those. They're fun.
Speaker 1: Actually, I do think this is a big game for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Oh, just for how I feel about them? Like,
Speaker 1: how does it?
Speaker 5: I said?
Speaker 1: Great teams respond to losses, right, they respond, They come
Speaker 1: back the next week or the next game. If it's
Speaker 1: an NBA team, just a little more. It's just human nature,
Speaker 1: Like can we get a blowout? Can we get the
Speaker 1: Chiefs like with a great offensive performance I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about the defense, Like can we get d Hop
Speaker 1: with like eight for one twenty? Can Patrick Mahomes have
Speaker 1: a good fantasy day for once? Ken Zavi are worthy?
Speaker 1: Like not make a big time mistake just for one game,
Speaker 1: look like the twenty like twenty one Chiefs or the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Chiefs, whatever, just do it for one game
Speaker 1: in Carolina. I don't think that's too much to ask.
Speaker 1: Do it do it for Greg?
Speaker 5: He needs to see these things to believe even Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I thought he was really improving this season, but he
Speaker 1: really did not have a great game against the Broncos.
Speaker 4: I thought he played well.
Speaker 5: Enough against the Bills.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be smirch him or anything, but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is a wow game. Give me that, because
Speaker 1: I know obviously they're capable of it and we'll probably
Speaker 1: see it eventually, But just give it to me at
Speaker 1: ten am and Bank of America Stadium. That's when I
Speaker 1: want it. When it's Charles Davis and not Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: that's what I want it.
Speaker 5: Show it to us, all right, Kansas City, and now
Speaker 5: we need to show you greck. We need to get
Speaker 5: all the way back, open up our first page and
Speaker 5: try to keep the survivor streak going e because, uh,
Speaker 5: we've been on We've been on a hot one. Okay.
Speaker 1: Do we believe in bow Nicks and the Broncos enough
Speaker 1: on the road in the division. The Buccaneers I believe
Speaker 1: are an option.
Speaker 5: But you love Cutlets, You're you're I do tell me, guy,
Speaker 5: I do not. I'm gonna run the tape back.
Speaker 1: Are the Dolphins available too? I'm sure we haven't taken
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They have the Patriots. Okay, all three of
Speaker 1: those are available and being told Buccaneers, Dolphins.
Speaker 5: The Bucks on the road. The other two are division games.
Speaker 1: You want to go Bucks, Let's do it. Now, let's
Speaker 1: do it. I think that's what I feel best about too.
Speaker 5: But you talked me into the cutlass I was gonna take.
Speaker 5: I was gonna take the Broncos.
Speaker 4: Okay, should we do it? Do we believe that much?
Speaker 5: What do you guys think back there? Nicks phone Knicks
Speaker 5: thumbs up. Okay, we both leave on this show, Greg
Speaker 5: something about it doesn't feel right. Uh oh oh no,
Speaker 5: we'll blame Steve for not being here, Broncos fans if
Speaker 5: you lose this game, all that honkin that you've been
Speaker 5: doing in my mentions all season long.
Speaker 1: And then I send out like one video that was
Speaker 1: positive and they were like, oh, Greg finally said something
Speaker 1: positive for the first time since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4: Well, they're finally giving me something positive.
Speaker 5: Bo Nicks was.
Speaker 1: The first AFC Offensive Player of the Week for Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5: Since Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 4: I don't know Trevor sime in, trev we were.
Speaker 5: All team Trev a million years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick and I when we bonded over being on
Speaker 1: Team Trev in the newsroom in twenty sixteen. That's when
Speaker 1: it last happened. Come through for US Broncos in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Fun show. We'll be back on Thursday night and like
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, we have the Anthony Weaver interviews. It's
Speaker 1: going to be part of that episode. But we will
Speaker 1: be recapping Steelers Browns, Steelers have a bad record on
Speaker 1: Thursday nights.
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin on the road in the division, like it's.
Speaker 4: It's a thing. I think it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: Bo Wolf from p h l Y will be joining
Speaker 1: me and uh yeah when when we got Baldy.
Speaker 5: And he's not even by the pool.
Speaker 4: You know, football is back. See it Thursday