1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: This is definitely my jam. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun here today and I'm 3 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: joined now by Olivia la Push again, the CEO of 4 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: sl be a major oil services company, but so much 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: more than that new energy technology, digital AI, you name it, 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: they do it. Olivia, Thank you for joining me, Thank 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: you for following me. I want to start with the 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: economic data we got today. IM services in the US, 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: it was okay, it was going to be a little 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: bit soft on the headline. What's your read on the 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: global economy and the US economy. 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: I think the Global academy, considering the them of conflict 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 3: and Lahina is actually doing okay. And I think that 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 3: when he turned it into demand for energy, I think 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: the demon of energy is still going the all in 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: part cular liquid demand I think has been tracking very 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: well to the GDP golf for the last four years, 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: and I believe this is still happening. So the US economy, 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: I believe that there was a lot of fear of recession, 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: a lot of fear of uh misssoft lending. I believe 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: that what we see today happening, and many indicators in 22 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: the US proved that this economy has a lot of 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: residence and we Sataly have a nice soft lending that 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: will keep the economy growing and success all right. 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: So maybe a pretty solid economy like steady as she goes. 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: Steady as she goes has been m and A in 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: the oil space here in the US. Does M and 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: A here for oil guys mean less business for you 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: or less pricing power going forward? 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: No, I think it is not a surprise that this 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: industry is consolidating. I think the consideration brings scale, efficiency 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: and access to tier one resources that are in scars access. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: So I believe that for us, the bigger and Better 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: as we call it, we're doing typically better with a 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: larger customer that have a larger portfolio of our courage 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: and solution we can provide. So typically we provide more 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: recovery or personal performance and doing this transition more digital services. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 3: As company wants to synergy once we extract the effect 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: of scale, and wants to prove that they can gain 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: efficiency by using the best technology they have. Both companies 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: are using, so we try to be successful with our technology. 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: And for us it's so globally positive. 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: So one plus one does a NICO less than two. 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: One plus one equals it. 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: Will it will it will on occasion, okay, because there 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: will be conserliation of activity that will high grade the 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: buffolio high grade roso set. But as an intensity of 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: technology and what is left, the intensity of technology amission 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: is going higher and we typically are doing well and 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: we anticipate to do well and to perform in the US. 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: So based on that, I know that shale is like 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: an infantasmal part maybe of your business, but I do 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: want to get your take on you. I'm going to 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: see another surprise performance from US shale production this year 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: like we did last year. 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: I think we'll I'll be surprised that we have a 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: repeat to the same scale. However, I think we should 58 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: not discover that the progress we are seeing in efficiency 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: in performance of technology, and we're part of it. We 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: provide performance breakthrough to our customers on well construction and 61 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: other aspects and customer benefits and drink faster, driad better walls, 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: and complete and lift their old pollution in a better way. Now, 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: there are temical limits to this, the geology that are constrained, 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: and hence the trend that we are seeing in M 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: and A that is trying to make the best out 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: of the existing rousso set and combined. But first it's 67 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: not as small. I think the North Summercassi rovers on 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: twenty percent of our total business. We still have a 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: very large fit for basing presence in the US and 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: we are very successful with our technology. 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: In the US did But compared to your offshore I 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: mean your real client in the offshore. 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Landscape, what is your competence. 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: In the offshore recovery that we've see in like how 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: long is your visibility and that sustainability. 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: As we keep referring to this circle as a character 77 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: sics of breadth, residence, and duration. I think the offshore 78 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: attributes that plays the most is duration. We believe that 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: by definition of show is long cycle far too in 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: deeper environment. Secondly, there has been a resurgence of some 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: exploration off show, not only in an existing basin in 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: infrastructure led exploration as we call it, but also into 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: new frontier. So this is adding a pipe pane of 84 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: FID that will prolong the cycle beyond what we can 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 3: see today. So today, if you look at the numbers, 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: we anticipate that the global of show we'll see about 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: one hundred billions as of FIDER each twenty four and 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: twenty five, the next this year and next year as 89 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: the size of FID that are in the pipeline in 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: shallow or deeper environment, and this we believe will be 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: extended beyond because there is a wide, a large activity 92 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: on explosion and appraisal in some province in the new province, 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: like Namibia, like Surinam, like the equator margin Brazil. 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Can you say extended like twenty eighty eight twenty. 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: Much later into in this decade that we couldn't haven't 96 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: see betted maybe two or three years ago. 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: Of course, if idea is final investment decision, where people 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: start to really like companies really put money into work. 99 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: One company or country that's putting less money to work 100 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: maybe sari Ramco, Saudi Arabia and sariy Ramco. We're not 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: going to develop thirty million barrels of oil a day. 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: You shrug because it wasn't a big deal, right, But 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: when you look at your share price, the stock fell 104 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: seven percent and it hasn't truly recovered since that day. 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: What are people getting wrong about the scenario? 106 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: I think we have been very clear on the market 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: on the consequence of this decision, the cost count decision 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: for US is in material you know but don't show 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: to continue to grow in Middle Set that is at 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: the record high level of investment, combined with the oil 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: capesty expansion in Saudi but of a country ue Kuwait 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: and development of Iraq or Libya further expansion. Secondly, in 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: the entire Middle East region, gas is becoming a cdical 114 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: strategic priority and both conventional gas like Kata is developing 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: for energy export or unconventional and connotional gas for local 116 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: consumption or for replacements of oil production. 117 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: If somebody a renco those state is conservative, like does 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: it start to buy it in like twenty twenty five, 119 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: No, I don't think they're conservative. I was there for 121 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: a week three weeks ago and the activity is as 122 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: high as we has ever been and I've ever seen 123 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: in the Middle East and part clarin in Saudi, It's 124 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: stretch is very very strong. It's a record high land activity, 125 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: record high of show activity. This extension that was supposed 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: to happen is at the moment suspended delayed, could come 127 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: back as it could provide another one million bile addition 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: from offshore. We happen to be very well exposed and 129 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: very long on shore exposure. Because of our INTECRATD contract, 130 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: we happen to be also extremely well exposed to gas 131 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: in Saudi. So first is minimum or immatenal impact for 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: this year for sure and for the forcible future. We 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: see growth this year, they see deficant growth in all 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: or almost all the country Middle Easts. We want to 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: supped this activity momentum to continue into next year. And 136 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: this change of two projects that have been postponed, that 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: has been canceled, that do not opos on more than 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: one percent of the total extreme spent per year is 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: not changing. Our strategy is not changing. The game is 140 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: not changing. What is the largest and biggest investment cycle Middle. 141 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: East and that is very good perspective to keep in 142 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: that when we hear these headlines that they cross. So 143 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: just to wrap up, speaking of stud Arabia, we just 144 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: saw OPEC plus continue the extension of their cards. Is 145 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: eighty a floor top like, how do you see the 146 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: oil market? 147 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: Where's the band? 148 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: The band has been I think OPEK has been willing 149 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: to set the flow up eighty or more. The old 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: prices have stayed between seventy five and eighty five. Wonticipate 151 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: to this market to stay to stay stretch because OPEK 152 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: will continue to use OPEC plus continue to use their 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: opportunity to adjust to the market to the market demand 154 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: supply equation. As you can see the maturity of the 155 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: US market starting to go towards production plateau, we create 156 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: more pull on international liquid demands. Gas activity internationally continue 157 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: to expand due to gas security. So this combination will 158 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: continue to push and support activity outlook and I'm not 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: willing to predict, will not predict all price, but we 160 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: believe that the balance of a back plus the continued 161 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: to pull on international supply that will stretch the existing 162 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: resource basins internationally will continue to support very healthy all 163 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: prize going forward. 164 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: So arrange a healthy range. All right, Livia, thanks a lot. 165 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time to say level push, CEO 166 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 2: of SLB