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Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi, I'm Sanders Champlain. For almost twenty
Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the
Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss
Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved ones have
Speaker 1: survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shade
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. When we come into life, we hear
Speaker 1: that we're a soul inhabiting a human body. Well, where
Speaker 1: is the soul? Have you ever wondered that? We've heard
Speaker 1: that we all have an aura, this energy force field
Speaker 1: that surrounds us. We've heard terms like the secret, the
Speaker 1: law of attraction, and ask and it is given. Mike
Speaker 1: Dooley says, our thoughts become things, so choose the good ones,
Speaker 1: and we hear our words create our worlds. Today you'll
Speaker 1: hear from Howard Martin, who is a real passion that
Speaker 1: we use the power of our soul and he's the
Speaker 1: president of Heart Math and the author of Heart Intelligence,
Speaker 1: connecting with the intuitive guidance of the heart. Hello, Howard,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to be with you. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me on your program, for the great introduction,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to our conversation. Hope everybody who's
Speaker 1: taking their time and giving their ten get something out
Speaker 1: of what we talk about and they can help to
Speaker 1: make a meaningful difference in their lives. Well, you've already
Speaker 1: made a meaningful difference in my life without even knowing it.
Speaker 1: About a month ago, I watched that Ted X talk
Speaker 1: and I just rewatched it again before you and I
Speaker 1: are speaking now. And I was in a little bit
Speaker 1: of a slump and I was imagining my heart what
Speaker 1: it was probably not doing, and took some time to
Speaker 1: sit in gratitude and love. And so you've got me
Speaker 1: finely tuned right now with my heart for a good interview. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really inspired and for me personally, this is just
Speaker 1: the conversation and the things I like to delve in.
Speaker 1: So absolutely couldn't be happier that we get to talk today.
Speaker 1: So let's jump right in. Let's how does this story begin.
Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit too, Just who you
Speaker 1: are and your background and how in the world did
Speaker 1: you find out something like heart math well young man
Speaker 1: early twenties rock musician, drummer at that time in the
Speaker 1: music business, in the midst of the decadence and all that,
Speaker 1: there was, you know, sort of an interest in spiritual
Speaker 1: things that was sort of circulating through that world. At times.
Speaker 1: Through that process, I met another young man named Doc
Speaker 1: Chouldrey who was quite interesting to me. He certainly wasn't
Speaker 1: but a little bit older than I was, but he
Speaker 1: certainly had any intelligeness and awareness It was different and
Speaker 1: more embracing than mine. We became friends. Over time, I proceed,
Speaker 1: you know, my own personal growth and the ways that
Speaker 1: I could, and it got to a place where I
Speaker 1: recognized that something had to change in my life. I
Speaker 1: could no longer walk into worlds that the music business
Speaker 1: was what it was, and the excitement, the glamour. The
Speaker 1: stimulation was, you know, something that was hard to shake,
Speaker 1: but a deeper part of myself was saying that there's
Speaker 1: something else you need to do with your life. And
Speaker 1: so every time I made that change, I spent many years,
Speaker 1: about eight I think it was, you know, living in obscurity,
Speaker 1: working ordinary jobs, doing the best I could to have
Speaker 1: a place to live in, something to drive, and working
Speaker 1: with doc and with others. Focus my total attention really
Speaker 1: on how am I going to change, how am I
Speaker 1: gonna grow? What's gonna happen to my awareness? How can
Speaker 1: I be a better person? All those type of things.
Speaker 1: And so that type of work led to a place
Speaker 1: that most of us finally did to when we go
Speaker 1: that deep into something and it's to our own hearts.
Speaker 1: In those days, we didn't have an ambition to be
Speaker 1: an organization or be authors and anything like we are today.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just people just kind of find a
Speaker 1: deeper connection to uh, this part of ourselves that have
Speaker 1: been talked about for thousands of years. It's called harm
Speaker 1: In time though, that just began to magnetize and draw
Speaker 1: it to us, and we ended up in relationships with
Speaker 1: other people we recognize it at a certain place. We
Speaker 1: had something that we could try to share. We started
Speaker 1: what's called heart Math in northern California. We were in
Speaker 1: the South before that. We partner with some people in
Speaker 1: northern California. We started with no real definitive business plan.
Speaker 1: We certainly didn't start with a lot of money. We
Speaker 1: started with a belief. We start with commitment. We started
Speaker 1: with a caring commitment to want to benefit the lives
Speaker 1: of others in some way, especially during these these times
Speaker 1: of accelerated change. And step by step we built it.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's been through an awful lot. We're thirty
Speaker 1: years deep into this now. I'm very proud of what's
Speaker 1: been accomplish the Heart Man. We have a huge footprint
Speaker 1: in the world today. We've redefined, I think, in many
Speaker 1: ways what heart really is. We have touched the lives
Speaker 1: in meaningful ways of millions of people, many millions of people,
Speaker 1: and we continue to grow. There's no ceiling to this.
Speaker 1: The adventure continues. The excitement of this adventure continues to
Speaker 1: build each and every day. So I sit here now
Speaker 1: and any television studio in San Francisco where I just
Speaker 1: did an interview, having this conversation with you, and you know,
Speaker 1: I can't appreciate enough what has happened in my life
Speaker 1: and the gifts that life has given me to have
Speaker 1: an opportunity like right now, in this moment here today,
Speaker 1: that they have this chance to share my heart with
Speaker 1: you and with everybody who's listening. I don't take that
Speaker 1: for granted. And when I look back at it all
Speaker 1: and so how does this happen? How this happened to me?
Speaker 1: I just have to say it gets back, simplistically stated
Speaker 1: to a statement we've all heard all of our lives,
Speaker 1: just to listen to and throughly follow our hearts, and
Speaker 1: that's basically all I've ever done. Well, I'm glad you have.
Speaker 1: I have a different journey, but also listening to my
Speaker 1: heart and it's amazing the people that get attracted to me,
Speaker 1: the opportunities I've had, and it's all based on service.
Speaker 1: And so you're very like minded in that way. But
Speaker 1: I want to ask you when you know when you
Speaker 1: first you think of the heart, it's the thing that
Speaker 1: is pumping in our chest. But when we think about love,
Speaker 1: we always think about our hearts. When we think about
Speaker 1: following our heart, we're talking about following our maybe our soul,
Speaker 1: our soul's purpose. When you just think about heart math,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking about the thing that's pumping blood,
Speaker 1: but it's so so much more. Can you talk about
Speaker 1: the things that the heart does and really what heart
Speaker 1: math is. It was surprising to me how many things
Speaker 1: are heart does. Yeah, and there's different dimensions to heart, Sander.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have the physical heart, and we've done
Speaker 1: a lot of research on understanding it and what it's doing.
Speaker 1: Beyond this blood pumping capacity. Certainly there's the emotional heart,
Speaker 1: which you alluded to, all these magnificent, beautiful emotional textures
Speaker 1: that are associated with the concept of heart. And then
Speaker 1: there's a spiritual heart. In this connection that we have
Speaker 1: is something larger than ourselves, is to the bigger us,
Speaker 1: to the field of information called consciousness that we used
Speaker 1: to co create reality. All that happens through the heart
Speaker 1: as well. So at heart math we look at all
Speaker 1: of those angles on heart. I think that what has
Speaker 1: helped us to have influenced in the world is the
Speaker 1: fact that we took a scientific approach to some of it.
Speaker 1: Most everything we do is underpen with scientific research. We
Speaker 1: have a system, its tools as techniques. It's innovative technology,
Speaker 1: and the science underpends it all. So what science did
Speaker 1: for us is that helped to build a bridge between
Speaker 1: the metaphorical understanding of heart or the the understanding of
Speaker 1: heart that was associated with let's say, the spiritual concepts
Speaker 1: and bring all that down to a context where people
Speaker 1: could understand it in a different way and then apply
Speaker 1: the basic qualities of heart in their daily lives. We
Speaker 1: wanted to take it from what we call a sky
Speaker 1: down the street so that it could be applicable to
Speaker 1: making a difference in the quality of life that people
Speaker 1: are experiencing. So that's what we've done. So the system
Speaker 1: is the ployed through the world, the training programs, we
Speaker 1: certified coaches, we certified trainers, We deliver all kinds of
Speaker 1: programs their salves. I do get an opportunity to be
Speaker 1: a spokesperson and to speak a lot of places, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's basically what we do. And again, the sciences the bridge.
Speaker 1: The science has allowed us to take these understandings of
Speaker 1: heart into very very mainstream segments of society, places where
Speaker 1: you would not suspect that something like heart math would be.
Speaker 1: Like all four branches of the US military, police forces, fire, apartments, universities,
Speaker 1: all kinds of places that have heart math embedded in
Speaker 1: what they do and or have taken a lot of
Speaker 1: heart man training. So again, the science was helpful because
Speaker 1: people know kind of about heart, but they sort of
Speaker 1: write it off as a metaphor. But we were able
Speaker 1: to take it down to something and made it more tangible.
Speaker 1: I love the tangibility of it because in the past
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, our thoughts really impact how we feel,
Speaker 1: and our feelings are sending something out in the world.
Speaker 1: But can you explain a little bit about is it
Speaker 1: the electromagnetic waves that get sent out from our heart
Speaker 1: something like that? Yeah? Sure, I mean the heart is
Speaker 1: communicating and sending information through the brain and the rest
Speaker 1: of the body and beyond. It does in a bunch
Speaker 1: of ways. It has a very complex nervous system information,
Speaker 1: It has blood pressure wave changes, It releases hormones into
Speaker 1: the body that regenerate us a lot of ways, and
Speaker 1: heart is actually talking. One of the coolest ways those
Speaker 1: an electromagnetic field produced by the heart. This magnetic field
Speaker 1: rome it's every single sell in our own bodies, but
Speaker 1: it also has enough power in it that it creates
Speaker 1: a field that extends beyond our skin out into space,
Speaker 1: and that field can be measured with very conservative research
Speaker 1: equipment and traditional type research equipment about three to four
Speaker 1: feet outside of the body, and researchers believe that that's
Speaker 1: just the beginning of where this steel really goes. That
Speaker 1: we're looking at it the just one lens of research
Speaker 1: technology or scientific technology, but that we have this field
Speaker 1: of information that we're producing from our own hearts. Fields
Speaker 1: have information in them, and the heart steel does as well,
Speaker 1: and the information in that field is directly related to
Speaker 1: what we are experiencing emotionally. For example, if we are upset, angry, irritated, frustrated,
Speaker 1: those kind of feelings, it produces a very incoherent signal
Speaker 1: in that heart field, and we are broadcasting that. Conversely,
Speaker 1: you start feeling emotional qualities that have been associated with
Speaker 1: like more care, more compassion, lectra kindness to people, certainly
Speaker 1: less judgment and in prince. The field differently in prints
Speaker 1: with different information, and we are in fact broadcasting that
Speaker 1: information as well. So it becomes a matter of understanding
Speaker 1: that we are energetic beings and that we are communicating
Speaker 1: in unseen ways, and that there's a connection energetically between
Speaker 1: all living systems. Every living system on our planet and
Speaker 1: beyond is connected in ways of which we are just
Speaker 1: beginning to understand. The major energetic contributor from us the
Speaker 1: human being is actually the heart. So it's through the
Speaker 1: heart that we make these type of connections that allow
Speaker 1: us to experience the sense of that we're not alone,
Speaker 1: that we're all in this together, and that we all
Speaker 1: have a responsibility of what we are feeding this collective field,
Speaker 1: what we are doing through our own thoughts and emotions
Speaker 1: in particular to influence the world and others in a
Speaker 1: way that would be certainly more uplifting and beneficial. I
Speaker 1: saw on your ted X talk that you had a person,
Speaker 1: a gal sit with you on the stage and you
Speaker 1: connected some kind of a little monitor her ear. Can
Speaker 1: you explain what you did, because I love the science
Speaker 1: behind this is takes it out of just good feelings.
Speaker 1: Are good for you because you can actually see on
Speaker 1: the court the results. Well, when we were doing our
Speaker 1: scientific research, we wanted to understand how we can measure
Speaker 1: this quality of communication that was going on between the
Speaker 1: physical heart, the brain, and the rest of the body.
Speaker 1: And what we discovered there was a there was a
Speaker 1: scientific discipline called heart rate variability analysis. And what that means, Sandra,
Speaker 1: is you're measuring the time between horm beats, the varying
Speaker 1: in the speed in which the heart is beating. So
Speaker 1: it's different than measuring just heart rate like a fitness
Speaker 1: monitor measures. Howard, we have to take a quick break.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain
Speaker 1: and we're with Howard Martin from Heart Math. Now, how
Speaker 1: are you were just talking about the variability analysis? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Variability analysis? What that means, Sandra, is
Speaker 1: you're measuring the time between horn beats, the varying in
Speaker 1: the speed in which the heart is beating. So it's
Speaker 1: different than measuring just heart rate like a fitness monitor measures.
Speaker 1: You're really measuring a rhythmic pattern produced by the speeding
Speaker 1: up and slowing down of the heart. Now, what we
Speaker 1: discovered is that there were many things that influenced that
Speaker 1: heart rate variability movement does speech, does light and sound
Speaker 1: even do But what researchers have missed as the fact
Speaker 1: that emotions also do They affected that heart rate variability pattern. Now,
Speaker 1: when we are in a very positive emotional state, those
Speaker 1: heart rhythm has become very ordered and it puts us
Speaker 1: in a state called coherence. So I'm gonna slow this
Speaker 1: tentis a little bit so everyone listening can follow. We
Speaker 1: were wanting to measure quality of communication between hard and brain.
Speaker 1: We found that heart rate variability analysis was a way
Speaker 1: to do that. Then we found that when those heart
Speaker 1: rhythms were an optimal state, it was a state called coherence.
Speaker 1: In the coherence state, all the body systems are synchronized
Speaker 1: to the rhythmic beating pattern of the heart, means of respiration, digestion,
Speaker 1: immune system response, hormonal releases, brain function, all that stuff
Speaker 1: syncs up and boom, there we are in this high
Speaker 1: performance state. That state is triggered by the experience of
Speaker 1: a regenerative, uplifting emotion. So when we're more caring, for example,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be more naturally coherent. When I am appreciating
Speaker 1: someone rather than judging them, I'm gonna be more naturally coherent.
Speaker 1: And so what you were seeing in the ted X
Speaker 1: talk was technology that measures that that anybody can get
Speaker 1: anybody can own. The most popular version of it's called
Speaker 1: the Inner Balanced Trainer, and it's an app that you
Speaker 1: can get for any phone downloaded from your favorite app store.
Speaker 1: You purchase the sensor from from heart math or from
Speaker 1: the distributor somewhere that connects to your ear. It communicates
Speaker 1: your heart rhythm patterns to the app, and then the
Speaker 1: app has a patent algorithm and it that scores those
Speaker 1: heart rhythms for how coherent they are. So what the
Speaker 1: technology is used for us to train ourselves to become
Speaker 1: more coherent, the trainer selves to be more connective with
Speaker 1: the hearts and diligence. And so it's really useful in
Speaker 1: many many applications, everything from people who are in their
Speaker 1: meditations and spiritual practices right on down to high performance athletes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you use our technology as a way of
Speaker 1: gaining extra benefit from whatever endeavors that they're they're making.
Speaker 1: It's really funny because just before I called you, I
Speaker 1: was playing the game with the Clock, and I was
Speaker 1: on the heart math website ordering one of those. But
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating because in the ted X talk
Speaker 1: you can actually see this young woman just the results
Speaker 1: on the monitor. And I'm sure she was nervous sitting
Speaker 1: in a crowd of however many hundreds of people, and
Speaker 1: you can see all these jagged lines and and you
Speaker 1: can get it. You know, it's nerve racking. Probably she
Speaker 1: didn't know what she was in for. But then you
Speaker 1: actually had her breathe through her heart and maybe could
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. But then you all
Speaker 1: of a sudden started seeing these smooth lines and the
Speaker 1: smooth patterns. And I know firsthand just from living life
Speaker 1: that if I can put myself in a place of love, gratitude, appreciation,
Speaker 1: life goes better. However, to actually see what the heart
Speaker 1: is doing is absolutely incredible. You know. What I had
Speaker 1: to do was a simple heart mat technique called quick coherence,
Speaker 1: and there are three steps to it. The first is
Speaker 1: to focus your attention right in the area in the
Speaker 1: center of your chest, in the area of the heart.
Speaker 1: Then you do something called heart focused breathing, which means
Speaker 1: that you breathe naturally normally in a comfortable rhythm, but
Speaker 1: maybe deeper than you normally would. And as you breathe,
Speaker 1: you imagine as if the breath is flowing in and
Speaker 1: out right through the center of your chest, the area
Speaker 1: of the heart. Then why you got a heart focused
Speaker 1: breathing going on? Then you make a sincere attempt to
Speaker 1: activate a regenerative, uplifting emotion. You can recall a feeling
Speaker 1: if when you just really felt good inside, or you
Speaker 1: can remember maybe being in a special place or whether
Speaker 1: a special person, or playing with your pet or your
Speaker 1: child or your grandchild, and you evoke this feeling and
Speaker 1: when you do this sweet steps together. What happens is
Speaker 1: instantaneously your heart rhythms change. And it's just demonstrated with
Speaker 1: the girl on stage just she was in an incoherent
Speaker 1: state up on the stage in front of hundreds of people,
Speaker 1: a little nervous. I took her through the technique that
Speaker 1: she shifted from an incoherent heart rhythm to a highly
Speaker 1: coherent heart rhythm in the moment. Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: important is that we can learn to do this and
Speaker 1: it's not that hard, and it's a useful skill going
Speaker 1: through all that we're all going through in today's world,
Speaker 1: everything moving quick, stressful, opportunity showing up one after another.
Speaker 1: How do we make the shift? How do we maintaining
Speaker 1: a certain inter inter balance, How do we maintain our
Speaker 1: own dignity and poise in the midst of all this
Speaker 1: stuff that we're going for it? Well, we can learn
Speaker 1: to do that through techniques like the heart math technique
Speaker 1: I'm sure others as well, and the technology measures showing
Speaker 1: you that you in fact did it. And so those
Speaker 1: combinations of technology and technique, uh put together, you know,
Speaker 1: in an easy to understand, in practical way, I think
Speaker 1: it provides a useful education and experience for people as
Speaker 1: we all are going through this grand adventure called it
Speaker 1: is quite an adventure? How are Years ago? I took
Speaker 1: a course on dowsing, and I thought I was going
Speaker 1: to be dowsing under ground wells and water and things
Speaker 1: like that, not realizing what I signed up for was
Speaker 1: to be learning that our body can pick up things energetically.
Speaker 1: So it was really interesting. But one of the things
Speaker 1: we did with our dowsing rods has held the intention
Speaker 1: to pick up. It sounds similar to what we're talking
Speaker 1: about right now, but the like electromagnetic energy coming from
Speaker 1: a human body. And we each had a partner, and
Speaker 1: the person doing the dowsing would ask the partner, okay,
Speaker 1: think of a like a sad time in your life,
Speaker 1: and then holding these dowsing rods out, we'd realized that
Speaker 1: it was only maybe a foot away from the body
Speaker 1: when these rods would open up, and then opposite we
Speaker 1: would say, think of the best time you had in
Speaker 1: your life, something you're very grateful for. Having this person
Speaker 1: really start feeling his feelings, and we'd walk closer to
Speaker 1: the person and that was actually several feet away from
Speaker 1: the body, and all of a sudden these rods would
Speaker 1: open up. So I had the instincts that then you know,
Speaker 1: what we think about how we feel really is producing
Speaker 1: some kind of energy. And so to be able to
Speaker 1: see it on the court with your team's heart math,
Speaker 1: it's just to me, it's it's all tapping into the
Speaker 1: same power. Yeah, I kind of feeling it was a
Speaker 1: hard magnetic field. It was creating these changes. And so
Speaker 1: that's a very measurable field. It's not woo woo at
Speaker 1: all talking about it. Our our or sudden energy just
Speaker 1: beused measure with something called magnet trometers, which are traditional
Speaker 1: scientific research equipment used to measure magnetic fields. And so
Speaker 1: that's where the information came from. About the three feet
Speaker 1: outside of the body. My belief as it goes a
Speaker 1: lot further than that. If you were using something you
Speaker 1: can measure further than instead of a magnet trauma, this
Speaker 1: feel could be infinite in a certain way. That that
Speaker 1: that that feel, the changes in the feel relative to that.
Speaker 1: As the teacher was what was he asking people to do.
Speaker 1: He's asking the shift emotional state, and as emotional state shifted,
Speaker 1: there's a different imprint in that field. The dowsing rods
Speaker 1: and the sensitivity of the dows or it could possibly
Speaker 1: be picking up on that my guests, and it's only
Speaker 1: a guess, it would be that the heart steal was
Speaker 1: probably the primary communicator in that process. Pretty great. One
Speaker 1: more thing I have done myself has done things from
Speaker 1: time to time like how to Gratitude practice twenty eight days,
Speaker 1: putting in a lot of gratitude in my life, a
Speaker 1: lot of love and appreciation, keeping a notebook, and good
Speaker 1: things started happening in my life. So while it is
Speaker 1: subjective to myself these things and it can only be
Speaker 1: my personal experience, like I really know the power of that.
Speaker 1: But also I've looked on your heart math website and
Speaker 1: using the heart math training system and technology, I just
Speaker 1: want to read to some of the differences it's made.
Speaker 1: Improvement in the ability to focus, improvement in sleep, thirty
Speaker 1: eight percent, improvement in calmness, percent drop in anxiety, drop
Speaker 1: in fatigue, fifty six percent drop in depression. That's massive results,
Speaker 1: it was, and it blew my mind too. That's a large,
Speaker 1: large group of people. Was like thousands of people were
Speaker 1: in those study and there were companies that's where we
Speaker 1: were doing those measurements. Based upon people in larger organizations
Speaker 1: that were taking heart math training. We did pre in
Speaker 1: post assessments with them using a very sophisticated, scientifically validated
Speaker 1: psychometric survey, and they were in different parts of the world.
Speaker 1: Most were in the United States or Europe, but they
Speaker 1: were in different business sectors. You know, they weren't all
Speaker 1: on the same type of company. And when I saw
Speaker 1: those results, it was really an eye opener for me
Speaker 1: as well, because you know, these changes were huge, and
Speaker 1: I guess in an essence feeling that I had when
Speaker 1: I began to review things from that type of scientific
Speaker 1: lens was that, you know, a little hard goes a
Speaker 1: long way. We only have like a day or two
Speaker 1: to train these people. They learn some basic techniques and boom,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these big changes happen into large
Speaker 1: populations of people in different parts of the world doing
Speaker 1: different things. That said to me what I just said,
Speaker 1: a little hard goes a long way with people these days,
Speaker 1: and so it doesn't take as much as you might
Speaker 1: think to change the direction of a life. And I
Speaker 1: think one way or the other because I know people
Speaker 1: that are very negative and oh, first of all, it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good to be around them. But I do
Speaker 1: believe there's a correlation between our thinking, our emotions, and
Speaker 1: our health. So you mean you need to speak a
Speaker 1: little bit about that, because I think this could improve
Speaker 1: people's health absolutely. First of all, I don't want to
Speaker 1: applaud to you for the type of work you've done
Speaker 1: and the amount of it you've done. You've certainly been
Speaker 1: a secret and a person who's been looking to improve
Speaker 1: yourself and only that and then to give back to
Speaker 1: others like few things like your your show. So I
Speaker 1: want to thank you for that. Um, And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, here's the deal. You know, we all live
Speaker 1: in this vast field of information called consciousness that's feeding
Speaker 1: back to us not what we think in our minds,
Speaker 1: but we truly feel in our hearts. And it's through
Speaker 1: that relationship hard to feel that we are co creating
Speaker 1: a lot of our own reality. We're drawing from this
Speaker 1: field what ends up being our reality, and that reality
Speaker 1: is that it can be everything right on down to
Speaker 1: our physical health. I mean, science now knows we first
Speaker 1: stare a heart. Man. They didn't know this, but today
Speaker 1: they know the direct relationship between emotions and physical health.
Speaker 1: I think it's the most important way in which we
Speaker 1: stay healthy or the ways in which we get sick.
Speaker 1: If we want to run this type of toxic emotions
Speaker 1: through our system all the time, the anger of the upset,
Speaker 1: the sadness, the downness, all those kind of feelings, we
Speaker 1: have a right to do that. It's not about suppressing emotions.
Speaker 1: But there's a consequence to that. It begins to feedback
Speaker 1: on the body. It accelerates aging, It releases hormage into
Speaker 1: our system that we don't want an over amount of. Uh.
Speaker 1: It begins to create nervous system chaos. Lots of things
Speaker 1: happen when those types of negative emotions are there and
Speaker 1: they sustain themselves. They're they're all the time, Howard. We
Speaker 1: have to take a quick break and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll find out more. You're listening to Shades of the
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Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and just
Speaker 1: to get the records straight here, I do not make
Speaker 1: a percentage or a commission for anybody on my show.
Speaker 1: I just believe in products such as these that can
Speaker 1: help all of us move from a negative mindset to
Speaker 1: a pose of So Howard, we're just talking about the
Speaker 1: impact negativity has. I don't see it as healthy at all,
Speaker 1: and I've see the direct correlation also when we do
Speaker 1: make these shifts, when we we find ways in which
Speaker 1: we can become let's say, more naturally appreciative us gratitude.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the gratitude work that you did.
Speaker 1: It sets up a different magnetic drawal from consciousness and
Speaker 1: we become co creators in a different way. And then
Speaker 1: life begins to shape itself around what we're putting into
Speaker 1: the field. But out more care, put out more compassion,
Speaker 1: especially especially compassion right now, More gratitude, more appreciation, more kindness.
Speaker 1: Those are not just soft, squishy emotions associated with the
Speaker 1: Valentine's version of heart. There are powerful energetic frequencies that
Speaker 1: we use proactively if we choose to to create a
Speaker 1: very different experience of life. Yeah, and I'm also thinking too,
Speaker 1: there's got to be some connection to heart math, to
Speaker 1: tapping into our own wisdom, our own problem solving, our
Speaker 1: own answers, our own perception. Mm hmm, Yeah, there absolutely is.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a download from spirit into humanness when
Speaker 1: we're more connected to our heart. Intuition is sort of
Speaker 1: the taxi from from that higher part of who we
Speaker 1: are down to how we perceives something. Intuition us or
Speaker 1: the conduits it brings that information in. And yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a definite spiritual uplift and unfoldment and access to the
Speaker 1: higher form of ourselves greater awareness when we're more connected
Speaker 1: to the heart. To me, that's the that's one of
Speaker 1: the biggest benefits our approach and my personal approaches. I
Speaker 1: don't try to skip steps always. It can sound really
Speaker 1: cool to understand what's happening at a higher dimensional level,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna understand what's happening beyond the physical. Those
Speaker 1: are all interesting things to pursue and understand. But the
Speaker 1: step that can't be skipped as we've got to manage
Speaker 1: day to day light in a different way. We can
Speaker 1: just allow rogue emotions to rule us. We can't just
Speaker 1: you know, put off dealing with some of the things
Speaker 1: that we know we need to do that we just
Speaker 1: haven't bothered to take on. That's for me, at least,
Speaker 1: a fundamental truth is I have to put emphasis there
Speaker 1: and try to do everything I can to overcome on
Speaker 1: blocks and the things that get in my way become
Speaker 1: the best Howard Martin and I can be every day.
Speaker 1: And when I do that with consistency, then the other
Speaker 1: stuff starts to happen naturally. But if I was to pursue,
Speaker 1: like I don't really want to understand, you know, the
Speaker 1: bigger picture from some higher dimensional level, and I didn't
Speaker 1: pay attention to what was happening around me and how
Speaker 1: I was thinking and feeling and especially how I was
Speaker 1: treating other people, that other stuff would just be a
Speaker 1: chase from me. It would be elusive. So the scept
Speaker 1: that that most people don't really want to dig in
Speaker 1: on uh is really going to hit and dealing with
Speaker 1: some of the emotional stuff that they know they should
Speaker 1: be dealing with and I know that sounds kind of harsh,
Speaker 1: but I think that very often that part gets put
Speaker 1: off a lot in the pursuit of something that appears
Speaker 1: to be more important or larger. I agree. Just in
Speaker 1: the past two months, Howard, I had made myself a list,
Speaker 1: and it was more like unfinished business, things that aren't
Speaker 1: working in my life, things I knew I needed to address.
Speaker 1: But I have felt happier, I have felt more at peace.
Speaker 1: And I think this is kind of talking about the
Speaker 1: same thing, looking at those things that have been causing
Speaker 1: me stress and anxiety in life. So the more I
Speaker 1: can kind of put those things in the past and
Speaker 1: have them dealt with, there is more room for this
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So I think we're talking about the
Speaker 1: same thing here. I think let me just say this, Sandra,
Speaker 1: all of either listening to this program right now, just
Speaker 1: pay attention to what Sander just said. Forget me. If
Speaker 1: you do that. If you do that, you're gonna come
Speaker 1: out way ahead and have you know that the intention
Speaker 1: and the courage and you know, the openness to take
Speaker 1: a look at what's left to be done, uh, and
Speaker 1: then to take some steps to go ahead and taking
Speaker 1: care of that. That's the big accelerator that is the
Speaker 1: huge growth opportunity that we all have, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to go on forever. Life can begin to change,
Speaker 1: and it's not an enless process of always having something
Speaker 1: and always cleaning something out. There is a place that
Speaker 1: we get to where the yeah stuff shows up, but
Speaker 1: some of the heavy lifting can get out of the way.
Speaker 1: And for many of us, I think people that have
Speaker 1: an interest in the type of things that we're discussing today,
Speaker 1: we don't even realize how much heavy lifting has already
Speaker 1: been done, and we keep trying to find all this
Speaker 1: stuff is wrong instead of being able to go ahead
Speaker 1: and accept how many things that are going on for
Speaker 1: us and how much we've accomplished that have been good.
Speaker 1: But when things show up, it's always good to do
Speaker 1: that inventory. Like Sander talked about the step back and
Speaker 1: go yeah, I've done a lot of work on myself,
Speaker 1: but it's not time to be complacent. Right now, I
Speaker 1: can go ahead and appreciate all that I've done, and
Speaker 1: I can acknowledge and recognize that a lot of the
Speaker 1: big stuff is already taken care of. Now where can
Speaker 1: I find teen things? Where can I make the changes?
Speaker 1: I mean you can. You can paint your room at
Speaker 1: your house and look really good, but it doesn't really
Speaker 1: look complete till you do the trim. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: trim takes time, right the part you gotta get down there,
Speaker 1: and it's got you gotta be more careful not to
Speaker 1: get the paint on the wall or on the carpet
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But you know, when the trim
Speaker 1: filing gets on in the room just sparkles and comes
Speaker 1: to life. And so for some of us, I think
Speaker 1: today it's just a matter of let's take care of
Speaker 1: the trim right now, and boy, will we accelerate into
Speaker 1: something magnificent and new, beyond what we actually can realize,
Speaker 1: beyond what we can where our projections about what that
Speaker 1: could be will be. And that's I think, the hope
Speaker 1: and promise for an exciting new future for everybody. I
Speaker 1: really enjoy this conversation and I hope with our you
Speaker 1: who's listening right now, maybe it's not this conversation, maybe
Speaker 1: it's about something else, but if there's something that resonates
Speaker 1: with you, follow it, follow your passions. You know, we're
Speaker 1: all here on earth for different reasons, but to have
Speaker 1: a toolbox that we get to choose a positive emotion
Speaker 1: and put it into our life and actually feel better,
Speaker 1: have better results and things. It's like, that's what we
Speaker 1: want to do. Give you the tools, give you the toolbox.
Speaker 1: We are human beings, and as perfect as I may sound, Howard,
Speaker 1: I am far from it. You know. I deal with
Speaker 1: my own battles every day. But just getting I think
Speaker 1: it's the nature of the beast. By being humans that
Speaker 1: we have we can have negative thought patterns and who knows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think, well, it's just a tricky I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to look at these things and that same
Speaker 1: as bad. Um, we've gotta say, okay, that is part
Speaker 1: of being human and it's sort of acknowledge but then
Speaker 1: move on. You don't have to accept it is a totality,
Speaker 1: but acknowledging it's important and not trying to be perfect.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got my my challenges as well as
Speaker 1: um saying. I mean, we all live in on the
Speaker 1: same planet right now. We're human beings. It's not easy
Speaker 1: being human. It really isn't is. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: complexity in the word we're trying to pull off here,
Speaker 1: especially during this year of super accelerated transformation. It's not
Speaker 1: easy to do. So one of the things that I'm
Speaker 1: often encourage people to give this a shot, and I
Speaker 1: certainly try to use it myself, is it please please,
Speaker 1: please have a compassion for yourself. Give yourself the gift
Speaker 1: with a heart trying to give you, which is to
Speaker 1: be compassionate for yourself. There'll be times when we don't
Speaker 1: feel like we've done right, when we do feel like
Speaker 1: we haven't done enough for we've made big mistakes, or
Speaker 1: we've really gone backwards, or we're really never going to
Speaker 1: get it, or we're just not good enough. Those feelings
Speaker 1: are part of that humanness. But when you found yourself there,
Speaker 1: I encourage you to just go right straight back to
Speaker 1: your own best friend, which is your heart, and have
Speaker 1: a little conversation and say, you know what, it's okay.
Speaker 1: You know I do it myself. It's okay, a little dude.
Speaker 1: You know you're doing the best you can as a
Speaker 1: moment is a day. Don't worry about it. Just keep
Speaker 1: moving forward and give yourself that gift to compassion that
Speaker 1: you're okay, that you know it isn't an easy time,
Speaker 1: and that you know things move forward, things move on,
Speaker 1: and don't overdwell on what you think you haven't done
Speaker 1: or what you can't do. And that's part of the progression,
Speaker 1: the trick of the mind just to want to suck
Speaker 1: you back in and say, oh no, but you can't
Speaker 1: do that. That would be so you don't deserve that.
Speaker 1: You know you are not good enough, or yeah, that
Speaker 1: is a big mistake, and boy, you're gonna pay for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all the mind stuff, right, and
Speaker 1: the heart's going. How about talking to me from a
Speaker 1: minute and getting the second opinion and it will have
Speaker 1: a different view of what that's all about. That's why,
Speaker 1: Howard I think, Oh, I'm interrupting you. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: finishing well. Just the fact and not that people have
Speaker 1: to buy the device for heart math. But I know
Speaker 1: for myself, living in my own skin, I don't always
Speaker 1: catch myself when my mind takes off a negative thought patterns.
Speaker 1: But if I had that little thing that plugs into
Speaker 1: my iPhone handy, I could just pop it on my
Speaker 1: ear lobe and say where am I at right now
Speaker 1: in my heart and that would be something that could
Speaker 1: bring me back into the Yeah, it's useful to Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're right, you don't have to have it. Great
Speaker 1: analogy or MASS founder Doctority was just talking to me
Speaker 1: one day through this one analogy which I still remember
Speaker 1: and love, and he said, yeah, you don't have to
Speaker 1: have technology to pursue your heart. Work is certainly not necessary.
Speaker 1: And he qualified that about three different ways, and then
Speaker 1: he said, but you know, you don't really have to
Speaker 1: have a GPS in your car to get around either.
Speaker 1: We never had them for a long time. We would
Speaker 1: figuring it out a different way using maps and polluting
Speaker 1: into the service station and all that. He said, but
Speaker 1: sure it's nice to having on one, isn't it. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. And so the same thing, You don't have
Speaker 1: to have technology or anything like that to pursue your heart.
Speaker 1: And we've all pursued our hearts for a long time
Speaker 1: of that need that, but now that there is technology
Speaker 1: that can assist us, it's gold to have it. M H.
Speaker 1: And I am of the belief the more positively feel,
Speaker 1: the more good things happen, and just based on my
Speaker 1: own life, so yeah, why not. Can you talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the books. Yeah, we've the Heart Mass
Speaker 1: published a bunch of books I co author to I
Speaker 1: called my first one with Doc Shouldery. It was a
Speaker 1: book called The Heart Mass Solution. And what people say
Speaker 1: about that book, you know what sometimes people say when
Speaker 1: they're introduced to me on a program like yours or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's become the definitive work on the intelligence of the
Speaker 1: heart of true classic kind of thing. It sold a
Speaker 1: lot of books, and it's been around a long time.
Speaker 1: It's you know, most books have a pretty short shelf
Speaker 1: life of a few years. But Harper Collins, who published
Speaker 1: this book, is still publishing it today. And it was
Speaker 1: the first release. I wrote a second book with Doc
Speaker 1: Shouldery and with two other Hart Math founding people, called
Speaker 1: Hard Intelligence Relationships two thousand and sixteen. It went to
Speaker 1: number one on Amazon in three different categories for a
Speaker 1: day or two. So it got off to a really
Speaker 1: good start. And so it's a you know, it's a
Speaker 1: book about the intelligence of the heart and about the
Speaker 1: science behind it, and about some of the things that
Speaker 1: have been accomplished the people, you know, making some changes
Speaker 1: to access more of their hearts intelligence. And so the
Speaker 1: books are good books. Today, I think um play a
Speaker 1: different role than they used to. Many people like audio
Speaker 1: books better. Heart Heart Mass Solution was just released in
Speaker 1: an audio book. You know after this many years and
Speaker 1: certainly you know reading things electronically, etcetera is the way
Speaker 1: people do it. It's time for our last break, and
Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll find out a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlaine. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra champlain and you can
Speaker 1: find out more about Howard at heartmath dot com. Now, Howard,
Speaker 1: we were talking earlier about healing the moment. What is that?
Speaker 1: How do you change that moment right now? How do
Speaker 1: you make that shift inside from the stress and the
Speaker 1: anxiety and the frustration into a more peaceful, calm place
Speaker 1: that's healing the moment. As we heal the moments they
Speaker 1: strained together, and as they strained together, what happens is
Speaker 1: while we whether we realize it or not, we're really
Speaker 1: rewriting what's going to happen in the future. It goes
Speaker 1: back to an earlier part of our conversation about how
Speaker 1: we are actually co creating reality and so happens moment
Speaker 1: to moment Here on the moment, each and every moment
Speaker 1: of every day, is best we can allowing for a humanness,
Speaker 1: allowing for the challenges that life presents. Between coming back
Speaker 1: to the hearts. Great. Lining back to the heart and
Speaker 1: doing that with consistency is like writing a niche story
Speaker 1: of our life, a feature story, and that feature eventually
Speaker 1: comes into manifest station into the moment. But we're rewriting
Speaker 1: that feature and say that requires a little structure. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you to remember, well, I wasn't alive
Speaker 1: when the people of the Earth believed that the Earth
Speaker 1: was flat, but eventually mankind got that the planet is around.
Speaker 1: When the day comes that people believe, embrace and that
Speaker 1: tipping point has occurred, that people understand heart math and
Speaker 1: the difference that our emotions play and what our heart
Speaker 1: does in this electromagnetic field and coherence. When the day
Speaker 1: that tipping point happens, what do you visualize could happen.
Speaker 1: It's happening already. It's not gonna it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: in a big bang. It takes time to integrate. What's
Speaker 1: happening is we're going through a dimensional shifting consciousness. We're
Speaker 1: moving from a third dimensional based consciousness into not just
Speaker 1: the fourth dimension, but the higher fourth dimension. That's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest is probably the biggest shift ever in
Speaker 1: the history of humanity. It is a dimension and a
Speaker 1: half shift, and it's happening in a relatively short amount
Speaker 1: of time. But it's not gonna be like all of
Speaker 1: a sudden one today, this big blast of energy hits
Speaker 1: and we all wake up and everything's cool. It doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way. It has to be stepped in. It
Speaker 1: has to be brought in, then grounded, and then more
Speaker 1: brought in, more integrated and grounded, and it's stepping stones
Speaker 1: this way up. It's happening fast right now. It's actually
Speaker 1: happening as fast as we can handle it. The world
Speaker 1: is going through a lot of change. You see the
Speaker 1: chaos happening in the world. At chaos, there's no accident.
Speaker 1: You know. The world is changing and shifting and is
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope on every single aspect. There is a
Speaker 1: human kind in society and the systems that we've used
Speaker 1: to guide it, and so that's happening pretty quick, and
Speaker 1: the chaos is about all we can in or right now.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna happening. It is happening, and it's a
Speaker 1: matter of you know, I think we are still controlling
Speaker 1: your time some on how long it takes before that
Speaker 1: baseline shift is really solid. What we have control over
Speaker 1: is whether we can make that a faster or slower process.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, we have some influence over how gentle
Speaker 1: and kind it can be, and that's where they're putting
Speaker 1: the heart outs the most important. The world's gonna rock
Speaker 1: and roll some for a while, but we can make
Speaker 1: it as kind of general process as we him. And
Speaker 1: there's so many things that could have been worse that weren't.
Speaker 1: If we go back and begin to look at it,
Speaker 1: we can see that there's a lot of progression going on,
Speaker 1: a lot of facilitation, a lot of growth that's happening.
Speaker 1: Humanity is responding well to the changes. Despite all the
Speaker 1: craziness and aberrant behavior that we see, we're really headed
Speaker 1: in the right direction. One of the keys to it, though,
Speaker 1: is to be patient, to recognize you gotta let it unfold.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep putting your best foot forward and of
Speaker 1: the world, making the contributions you can make to the
Speaker 1: lives of others, and then let things happen. And it's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen overnight, but in our lifetimes we will
Speaker 1: see some significant changes. Uh. They give us, I think
Speaker 1: verifications that guess what the shift's happening. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking about a rose. You can't force it to come
Speaker 1: out of the ground, and you can't force the bud
Speaker 1: to open. It takes time, no matter how much you
Speaker 1: water and how much sunlight, it takes time. I know
Speaker 1: it is now. I'm working on that my whole life. Remember,
Speaker 1: I'm always wanting to be a little bit ahead of
Speaker 1: where things are. I tend to live in the fissure
Speaker 1: and not in the past or the moment. And one
Speaker 1: time again Doc Shorty was breaking me down a little bit,
Speaker 1: me some pictures on me. He said, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: do you like those racehorses and they are in that
Speaker 1: thing before they open the gate, and they're just bucking
Speaker 1: around in that thing. You know, just can't wait to
Speaker 1: blast out of the gate. He said, you're like that,
Speaker 1: he said, but you do worse. He said, You're like
Speaker 1: a racehorse that realized as he can't bug to so
Speaker 1: he gets on his knees and try has to crawl
Speaker 1: underneath the thing. That is so funny. But have you
Speaker 1: ever found have you ever found? Howard? No matter how
Speaker 1: fast we wanted to be, or if we think we
Speaker 1: should be somewhere else by now, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: maybe you sit next to somebody on the airplane and
Speaker 1: you think, you know what, I was meant to be
Speaker 1: here to have that conversation, and you realize you need
Speaker 1: to be exactly right. And I learned this over time,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we all do. Um. It just takes
Speaker 1: a little practice, that's all. But yeah, you're right. It's
Speaker 1: just we recognize that there's a flow to light and
Speaker 1: when we accept that flow, then you know, we begin
Speaker 1: to see the magic at all. It's our resistances to
Speaker 1: it when he things to be different than they are
Speaker 1: that often create you know, the choppiness and the flow
Speaker 1: that leads to a lack of real fulfillment. I thought
Speaker 1: of something else too, while we're talking about all this.
Speaker 1: You ever be around people that you know you feel
Speaker 1: the good vibes? Do you feel like you just want
Speaker 1: to hang around them, you know, but you feel it
Speaker 1: feels good. I can't help but think this is tied
Speaker 1: in to that to heart math. It's about resonance. You know,
Speaker 1: some we resonate with some people more than others. But
Speaker 1: there are people that you know, it's there's a sort
Speaker 1: of energy that they put out. It didn't even have
Speaker 1: to be a big personality or something but they put
Speaker 1: out a certain energy that gives us a feeling and
Speaker 1: you sense that, and we resonate with some people that
Speaker 1: have that more than we do others. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: people in our lives that's kind of why we like
Speaker 1: hanging out with it because they how they make us
Speaker 1: feel by just having this conversation. We can be those
Speaker 1: people by in putting breathing through our heart and bringing
Speaker 1: in the emotions of love and gratitude and appreciation. When
Speaker 1: people know us to be one of those good feeling people,
Speaker 1: they're good feeling and you know, and I think that
Speaker 1: might be an explanation why I've recently been attracting some
Speaker 1: really cool and fun and great people up to things
Speaker 1: is what I'm putting out there so we can choose
Speaker 1: to be that we can And that's the big choice
Speaker 1: that we all need to make, you know. And Uh,
Speaker 1: it isn't totally linear to where we make these speak
Speaker 1: changes and all of a sudden, life just feeds back
Speaker 1: everything perfect to us. But we have to look at
Speaker 1: it in terms of listening to use the term ratios,
Speaker 1: how much the things begin to go better than they
Speaker 1: used to, you know, Uh, often does something cool happen
Speaker 1: in our life that we were not expecting. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't work always totally linearly, because we've had our own
Speaker 1: soul working with us, and he's setting up a lot
Speaker 1: of different geometries for our own growth, and so the
Speaker 1: things wen't always just match handing up with what we
Speaker 1: I'm putting into the world. But my feeling is when
Speaker 1: we had more heart, whatever that means to whoever is
Speaker 1: listening right now, when we add more heart into whatever
Speaker 1: we do, we never lose heart. It doesn't compete with anything.
Speaker 1: We can only gain from that, So why not. That's
Speaker 1: the philosophy that I've tried to live my life with Howard.
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed this, and in the beginning I said,
Speaker 1: you know, keep your seatbelt buckled. That's how I feel.
Speaker 1: It's just really been great. Is there any questions I
Speaker 1: should have asked you that I haven't, or any closing
Speaker 1: words or anything. Well, first of all, let me just
Speaker 1: say you've been a good interview. I've really enjoyed our
Speaker 1: conversation as well. Feels very easy for me to talk
Speaker 1: with you, very natural and flowing kind of feeling in
Speaker 1: at all, and that's always enjoyable for me. So thank you.
Speaker 1: For that and for having me, you know, as a
Speaker 1: part of your program. Um in your closing comments would
Speaker 1: just be things I've already said, just a little recap.
Speaker 1: Please have compassion for yourself if you don't remember anything else,
Speaker 1: trying to trying to do a little bit more that
Speaker 1: that'll get you a long way. And you're actually serving
Speaker 1: other people when you do that. It may not seem
Speaker 1: that way, and it may seem self centered, but it's
Speaker 1: not because you're making changes in yourself that are putting
Speaker 1: out a different kind of energy that's feeding that bigger
Speaker 1: field that we all live in. And therefore you're helping
Speaker 1: others to lift their spirits by lifting yours to the
Speaker 1: power of your own self compassion. So I urge you
Speaker 1: to do that. And then basically, you know, listen to
Speaker 1: and follow your heart. You know, uh, let it be
Speaker 1: your God. Learn to trust you more. Learning it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's your own best friend. It's there to help you
Speaker 1: out and give you some insights and some perspectives to
Speaker 1: help navigate life. Um, just be counter to other human beings,
Speaker 1: a little more understanding of people, even when their behavior
Speaker 1: doesn't match what you think it should be. Try to
Speaker 1: have a little bit more latitude, a little more compassionate,
Speaker 1: little more of a neutral and less judgmental perspective on things.
Speaker 1: These simple things like that are are the keys, and
Speaker 1: they're very, very powerful. And when we do those that
Speaker 1: it will open us up to more of the stuff
Speaker 1: that's really kind of fun. It has more sizzle, like
Speaker 1: more intuitional downloads, more insights into what's happening in the
Speaker 1: bigger picture of things that's happening in other side type
Speaker 1: activities and things like that. Whatever we need to know
Speaker 1: about all that will come as we begin to manifest
Speaker 1: more of own hearts qualities. So whether you do it
Speaker 1: through heart math or whether you find it other ways
Speaker 1: to do it, all doesn't matter to me that you
Speaker 1: truly found and connect with your own horror in some way.
Speaker 1: Just please, you know, learn to accept and trust your
Speaker 1: own best friend, your heart. That's beautiful, really good. This
Speaker 1: is we an episode I listened to repeatedly, great advice, Howard.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being our guest here today.
Speaker 1: My pleasure, and I hope we have a chance to
Speaker 1: meet some time, or that we get to do this
Speaker 1: on your show again. I have a funny feeling both
Speaker 1: will occur okay, care and by everybody who's been listening,
Speaker 1: thanks and for our listeners, thank you for taking the
Speaker 1: time to listen. But I want to tell you something else.
Speaker 1: Don't go away just yet. Dr mass root Amoto. You
Speaker 1: might have heard about him with the messages in water.
Speaker 1: Really good thing to google. But there's a scientific experiment
Speaker 1: he did with the people in Japan. He had families
Speaker 1: boiled one pot of rice and split the rice into
Speaker 1: two glass jars. And in one room, place one glass
Speaker 1: jar and talk to the rice, say loving things, sing
Speaker 1: happy songs, think happy thoughts, happy positive thoughts. And in
Speaker 1: the other room, put the other jar of rice into
Speaker 1: that room negativity. And after the end of the month,
Speaker 1: he had people gather the two jars of rice. The
Speaker 1: rice that was in the negative room spoken to negatively,
Speaker 1: and negative emotions felt around that rice. The end of
Speaker 1: the month, it was black and it smelled foul. The
Speaker 1: other jar of rice was a golden color and smelled nutty.
Speaker 1: So this just goes to show that we do emit
Speaker 1: something from our souls, from our being, from our auras.
Speaker 1: You can also try that experiment with bananas. Banana in
Speaker 1: one room, banana in the other. So you my friends
Speaker 1: are much more powerful than you give yourself credit. For
Speaker 1: a reminder to go to heart math dot com. There's
Speaker 1: even a free heart math experience that you can do,
Speaker 1: and our home base is we Don't Die dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm Sandra's Champlain and I really want to thank you
Speaker 1: sincerely for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the
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