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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: day M paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and

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Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject

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Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi, I'm Sanders Champlain. For almost twenty

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Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the

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Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss

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Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved ones have

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Speaker 1: survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shade

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. When we come into life, we hear

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Speaker 1: that we're a soul inhabiting a human body. Well, where

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Speaker 1: is the soul? Have you ever wondered that? We've heard

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Speaker 1: that we all have an aura, this energy force field

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Speaker 1: that surrounds us. We've heard terms like the secret, the

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Speaker 1: law of attraction, and ask and it is given. Mike

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Speaker 1: Dooley says, our thoughts become things, so choose the good ones,

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Speaker 1: and we hear our words create our worlds. Today you'll

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Speaker 1: hear from Howard Martin, who is a real passion that

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Speaker 1: we use the power of our soul and he's the

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Speaker 1: president of Heart Math and the author of Heart Intelligence,

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Speaker 1: connecting with the intuitive guidance of the heart. Hello, Howard,

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to be with you. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me on your program, for the great introduction,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to our conversation. Hope everybody who's

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Speaker 1: taking their time and giving their ten get something out

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Speaker 1: of what we talk about and they can help to

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Speaker 1: make a meaningful difference in their lives. Well, you've already

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Speaker 1: made a meaningful difference in my life without even knowing it.

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Speaker 1: About a month ago, I watched that Ted X talk

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Speaker 1: and I just rewatched it again before you and I

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Speaker 1: of a slump and I was imagining my heart what

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Speaker 1: it was probably not doing, and took some time to

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Speaker 1: sit in gratitude and love. And so you've got me

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Speaker 1: finely tuned right now with my heart for a good interview. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really inspired and for me personally, this is just

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Speaker 1: the conversation and the things I like to delve in.

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Speaker 1: So absolutely couldn't be happier that we get to talk today.

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Speaker 1: So let's jump right in. Let's how does this story begin.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit too, Just who you

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Speaker 1: are and your background and how in the world did

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Speaker 1: you find out something like heart math well young man

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Speaker 1: early twenties rock musician, drummer at that time in the

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Speaker 1: there was, you know, sort of an interest in spiritual

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Speaker 1: things that was sort of circulating through that world. At times.

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Speaker 1: Through that process, I met another young man named Doc

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Speaker 1: Chouldrey who was quite interesting to me. He certainly wasn't

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Speaker 1: certainly had any intelligeness and awareness It was different and

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Speaker 1: more embracing than mine. We became friends. Over time, I proceed,

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Speaker 1: you know, my own personal growth and the ways that

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Speaker 1: recognized that something had to change in my life. I

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Speaker 1: something else you need to do with your life. And

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Speaker 1: so every time I made that change, I spent many years,

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Speaker 1: about eight I think it was, you know, living in obscurity,

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Speaker 1: with doc and with others. Focus my total attention really

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Speaker 1: And so that type of work led to a place

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Speaker 1: that most of us finally did to when we go

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Speaker 1: that deep into something and it's to our own hearts.

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Speaker 1: In those days, we didn't have an ambition to be

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Speaker 1: In time though, that just began to magnetize and draw

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Speaker 1: of accelerated change. And step by step we built it.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's been through an awful lot. We're thirty

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Speaker 1: been accomplish the Heart Man. We have a huge footprint

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Speaker 1: in the world today. We've redefined, I think, in many

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Speaker 1: and we continue to grow. There's no ceiling to this.

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Speaker 1: The adventure continues. The excitement of this adventure continues to

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Speaker 1: did an interview, having this conversation with you, and you know,

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Speaker 1: an opportunity like right now, in this moment here today,

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Speaker 1: that they have this chance to share my heart with

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Speaker 1: you and with everybody who's listening. I don't take that

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Speaker 1: and so how does this happen? How this happened to me?

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Speaker 1: I just have to say it gets back, simplistically stated

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Speaker 1: to a statement we've all heard all of our lives,

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Speaker 1: just to listen to and throughly follow our hearts, and

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Speaker 1: that's basically all I've ever done. Well, I'm glad you have.

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Speaker 1: I have a different journey, but also listening to my

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Speaker 1: heart and it's amazing the people that get attracted to me,

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Speaker 1: the opportunities I've had, and it's all based on service.

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Speaker 1: And so you're very like minded in that way. But

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Speaker 1: is pumping in our chest. But when we think about love,

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Speaker 1: we always think about our hearts. When we think about

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Speaker 1: following our heart, we're talking about following our maybe our soul,

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Speaker 1: our soul's purpose. When you just think about heart math,

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Speaker 1: but it's so so much more. Can you talk about

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Speaker 1: the things that the heart does and really what heart

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Speaker 1: to the field of information called consciousness that we used

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Speaker 1: fact that we took a scientific approach to some of it.

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Speaker 1: Most everything we do is underpen with scientific research. We

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Speaker 1: of information that we're producing from our own hearts. Fields

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Speaker 1: and the information in that field is directly related to

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Speaker 1: those kind of feelings, it produces a very incoherent signal

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Speaker 1: beyond is connected in ways of which we are just

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Speaker 1: beginning to understand. The major energetic contributor from us the

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Speaker 1: have a responsibility of what we are feeding this collective field,

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Speaker 1: post assessments with them using a very sophisticated, scientifically validated

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Speaker 1: psychometric survey, and they were in different parts of the world.

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Speaker 1: were in different business sectors. You know, they weren't all

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Speaker 1: those results, it was really an eye opener for me

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Speaker 1: as well, because you know, these changes were huge, and

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Speaker 1: I began to review things from that type of scientific

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Speaker 1: lens was that, you know, a little hard goes a

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Speaker 1: long way. We only have like a day or two

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Speaker 1: to train these people. They learn some basic techniques and boom,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these big changes happen into large

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Speaker 1: populations of people in different parts of the world doing

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Speaker 1: different things. That said to me what I just said,

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Speaker 1: a little hard goes a long way with people these days,

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Speaker 1: and so it doesn't take as much as you might

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Speaker 1: think to change the direction of a life. And I

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Speaker 1: think one way or the other because I know people

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Speaker 1: that are very negative and oh, first of all, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel good to be around them. But I do

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Speaker 1: believe there's a correlation between our thinking, our emotions, and

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Speaker 1: our health. So you mean you need to speak a

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Speaker 1: little bit about that, because I think this could improve

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Speaker 1: people's health absolutely. First of all, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: applaud to you for the type of work you've done

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Speaker 1: and the amount of it you've done. You've certainly been

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Speaker 1: a secret and a person who's been looking to improve

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Speaker 1: yourself and only that and then to give back to

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Speaker 1: others like few things like your your show. So I

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Speaker 1: want to thank you for that. Um, And yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, here's the deal. You know, we all live

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Speaker 1: in this vast field of information called consciousness that's feeding

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Speaker 1: back to us not what we think in our minds,

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Speaker 1: but we truly feel in our hearts. And it's through

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Speaker 1: that relationship hard to feel that we are co creating

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Speaker 1: a lot of our own reality. We're drawing from this

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Speaker 1: field what ends up being our reality, and that reality

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Speaker 1: is that it can be everything right on down to

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Speaker 1: our physical health. I mean, science now knows we first

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Speaker 1: stare a heart. Man. They didn't know this, but today

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Speaker 1: they know the direct relationship between emotions and physical health.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the most important way in which we

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Speaker 1: stay healthy or the ways in which we get sick.

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Speaker 1: If we want to run this type of toxic emotions

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Speaker 1: through our system all the time, the anger of the upset,

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Speaker 1: the sadness, the downness, all those kind of feelings, we

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Speaker 1: have a right to do that. It's not about suppressing emotions.

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Speaker 1: But there's a consequence to that. It begins to feedback

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Speaker 1: on the body. It accelerates aging, It releases hormage into

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Speaker 1: our system that we don't want an over amount of. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It begins to create nervous system chaos. Lots of things

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Speaker 1: happen when those types of negative emotions are there and

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Speaker 1: they sustain themselves. They're they're all the time, Howard. We

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Speaker 1: have to take a quick break and when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out more. You're listening to Shades of the

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Speaker 1: Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,

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Speaker 1: and ideas. It can also expose them to risk. Teach

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Speaker 1: to the Heart Radio and Coast to Coast dam paranormal podcast.

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Speaker 1: to Coast am dot com for more information. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and just

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Speaker 1: to get the records straight here, I do not make

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Speaker 1: a percentage or a commission for anybody on my show.

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Speaker 1: I just believe in products such as these that can

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Speaker 1: help all of us move from a negative mindset to

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Speaker 1: a pose of So Howard, we're just talking about the

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Speaker 1: impact negativity has. I don't see it as healthy at all,

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Speaker 1: and I've see the direct correlation also when we do

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Speaker 1: make these shifts, when we we find ways in which

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Speaker 1: we can become let's say, more naturally appreciative us gratitude.

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the gratitude work that you did.

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Speaker 1: It sets up a different magnetic drawal from consciousness and

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Speaker 1: we become co creators in a different way. And then

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Speaker 1: life begins to shape itself around what we're putting into

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Speaker 1: the field. But out more care, put out more compassion,

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Speaker 1: especially especially compassion right now, More gratitude, more appreciation, more kindness.

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Speaker 1: Those are not just soft, squishy emotions associated with the

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Speaker 1: Valentine's version of heart. There are powerful energetic frequencies that

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Speaker 1: we use proactively if we choose to to create a

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Speaker 1: very different experience of life. Yeah, and I'm also thinking too,

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Speaker 1: there's got to be some connection to heart math, to

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Speaker 1: tapping into our own wisdom, our own problem solving, our

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Speaker 1: own answers, our own perception. Mm hmm, Yeah, there absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a download from spirit into humanness when

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Speaker 1: we're more connected to our heart. Intuition is sort of

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Speaker 1: the taxi from from that higher part of who we

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Speaker 1: are down to how we perceives something. Intuition us or

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Speaker 1: the conduits it brings that information in. And yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a definite spiritual uplift and unfoldment and access to the

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Speaker 1: higher form of ourselves greater awareness when we're more connected

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Speaker 1: to the heart. To me, that's the that's one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest benefits our approach and my personal approaches. I

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Speaker 1: don't try to skip steps always. It can sound really

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Speaker 1: cool to understand what's happening at a higher dimensional level,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna understand what's happening beyond the physical. Those

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Speaker 1: are all interesting things to pursue and understand. But the

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Speaker 1: step that can't be skipped as we've got to manage

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Speaker 1: day to day light in a different way. We can

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Speaker 1: just allow rogue emotions to rule us. We can't just

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Speaker 1: haven't bothered to take on. That's for me, at least,

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Speaker 1: a fundamental truth is I have to put emphasis there

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Speaker 1: and try to do everything I can to overcome on

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Speaker 1: blocks and the things that get in my way become

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Speaker 1: the best Howard Martin and I can be every day.

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Speaker 1: And when I do that with consistency, then the other

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Speaker 1: stuff starts to happen naturally. But if I was to pursue,

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Speaker 1: like I don't really want to understand, you know, the

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Speaker 1: pay attention to what was happening around me and how

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Speaker 1: I was thinking and feeling and especially how I was

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Speaker 1: treating other people, that other stuff would just be a

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Speaker 1: chase from me. It would be elusive. So the scept

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Speaker 1: that that most people don't really want to dig in

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Speaker 1: on uh is really going to hit and dealing with

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Speaker 1: some of the emotional stuff that they know they should

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Speaker 1: be dealing with and I know that sounds kind of harsh,

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Speaker 1: but I think that very often that part gets put

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Speaker 1: off a lot in the pursuit of something that appears

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Speaker 1: to be more important or larger. I agree. Just in

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Speaker 1: the past two months, Howard, I had made myself a list,

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Speaker 1: and it was more like unfinished business, things that aren't

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Speaker 1: working in my life, things I knew I needed to address.

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Speaker 1: But I have felt happier, I have felt more at peace.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is kind of talking about the

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Speaker 1: same thing, looking at those things that have been causing

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Speaker 1: me stress and anxiety in life. So the more I

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Speaker 1: can kind of put those things in the past and

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Speaker 1: have them dealt with, there is more room for this

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. So I think we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: same thing here. I think let me just say this, Sandra,

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Speaker 1: all of either listening to this program right now, just

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Speaker 1: pay attention to what Sander just said. Forget me. If

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Speaker 1: you do that. If you do that, you're gonna come

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Speaker 1: out way ahead and have you know that the intention

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Speaker 1: and the courage and you know, the openness to take

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Speaker 1: a look at what's left to be done, uh, and

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Speaker 1: then to take some steps to go ahead and taking

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Speaker 1: care of that. That's the big accelerator that is the

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Speaker 1: huge growth opportunity that we all have, and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to go on forever. Life can begin to change,

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Speaker 1: and it's not an enless process of always having something

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Speaker 1: and always cleaning something out. There is a place that

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Speaker 1: we get to where the yeah stuff shows up, but

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Speaker 1: some of the heavy lifting can get out of the way.

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Speaker 1: And for many of us, I think people that have

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Speaker 1: an interest in the type of things that we're discussing today,

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Speaker 1: we don't even realize how much heavy lifting has already

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Speaker 1: stuff is wrong instead of being able to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and accept how many things that are going on for

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Speaker 1: us and how much we've accomplished that have been good.

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Speaker 1: But when things show up, it's always good to do

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Speaker 1: that inventory. Like Sander talked about the step back and

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Speaker 1: go yeah, I've done a lot of work on myself,

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Speaker 1: but it's not time to be complacent. Right now, I

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Speaker 1: can go ahead and appreciate all that I've done, and

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Speaker 1: I can acknowledge and recognize that a lot of the

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Speaker 1: big stuff is already taken care of. Now where can

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Speaker 1: I find teen things? Where can I make the changes?

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Speaker 1: I mean you can. You can paint your room at

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Speaker 1: your house and look really good, but it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: look complete till you do the trim. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: trim takes time, right the part you gotta get down there,

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Speaker 1: and it's got you gotta be more careful not to

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Speaker 1: get the paint on the wall or on the carpet

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But you know, when the trim

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Speaker 1: filing gets on in the room just sparkles and comes

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Speaker 1: to life. And so for some of us, I think

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Speaker 1: today it's just a matter of let's take care of

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Speaker 1: the trim right now, and boy, will we accelerate into

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Speaker 1: something magnificent and new, beyond what we actually can realize,

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Speaker 1: beyond what we can where our projections about what that

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Speaker 1: could be will be. And that's I think, the hope

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Speaker 1: and promise for an exciting new future for everybody. I

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Speaker 1: really enjoy this conversation and I hope with our you

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Speaker 1: who's listening right now, maybe it's not this conversation, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's about something else, but if there's something that resonates

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Speaker 1: with you, follow it, follow your passions. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: all here on earth for different reasons, but to have

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Speaker 1: a toolbox that we get to choose a positive emotion

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Speaker 1: and put it into our life and actually feel better,

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Speaker 1: have better results and things. It's like, that's what we

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Speaker 1: want to do. Give you the tools, give you the toolbox.

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Speaker 1: We are human beings, and as perfect as I may sound, Howard,

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Speaker 1: I am far from it. You know. I deal with

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Speaker 1: my own battles every day. But just getting I think

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Speaker 1: it's the nature of the beast. By being humans that

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Speaker 1: we have we can have negative thought patterns and who knows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think, well, it's just a tricky I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got to look at these things and that same

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Speaker 1: as bad. Um, we've gotta say, okay, that is part

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Speaker 1: of being human and it's sort of acknowledge but then

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Speaker 1: move on. You don't have to accept it is a totality,

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Speaker 1: but acknowledging it's important and not trying to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got my my challenges as well as

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Speaker 1: um saying. I mean, we all live in on the

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Speaker 1: same planet right now. We're human beings. It's not easy

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Speaker 1: being human. It really isn't is. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: complexity in the word we're trying to pull off here,

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Speaker 1: especially during this year of super accelerated transformation. It's not

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Speaker 1: easy to do. So one of the things that I'm

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Speaker 1: often encourage people to give this a shot, and I

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Speaker 1: certainly try to use it myself, is it please please,

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Speaker 1: please have a compassion for yourself. Give yourself the gift

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Speaker 1: with a heart trying to give you, which is to

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Speaker 1: be compassionate for yourself. There'll be times when we don't

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Speaker 1: feel like we've done right, when we do feel like

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Speaker 1: we haven't done enough for we've made big mistakes, or

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Speaker 1: we've really gone backwards, or we're really never going to

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Speaker 1: get it, or we're just not good enough. Those feelings

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Speaker 1: are part of that humanness. But when you found yourself there,

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Speaker 1: I encourage you to just go right straight back to

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Speaker 1: your own best friend, which is your heart, and have

652
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Speaker 1: a little conversation and say, you know what, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: You know I do it myself. It's okay, a little dude.

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Speaker 1: You know you're doing the best you can as a

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Speaker 1: moment is a day. Don't worry about it. Just keep

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Speaker 1: moving forward and give yourself that gift to compassion that

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Speaker 1: you're okay, that you know it isn't an easy time,

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Speaker 1: and that you know things move forward, things move on,

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Speaker 1: and don't overdwell on what you think you haven't done

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00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: or what you can't do. And that's part of the progression,

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00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: the trick of the mind just to want to suck

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Speaker 1: you back in and say, oh no, but you can't

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Speaker 1: do that. That would be so you don't deserve that.

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Speaker 1: You know you are not good enough, or yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is a big mistake, and boy, you're gonna pay for that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is all the mind stuff, right, and

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Speaker 1: the heart's going. How about talking to me from a

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Speaker 1: minute and getting the second opinion and it will have

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Speaker 1: a different view of what that's all about. That's why,

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Speaker 1: Howard I think, Oh, I'm interrupting you. I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: finishing well. Just the fact and not that people have

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Speaker 1: to buy the device for heart math. But I know

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00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: for myself, living in my own skin, I don't always

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Speaker 1: catch myself when my mind takes off a negative thought patterns.

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Speaker 1: But if I had that little thing that plugs into

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Speaker 1: my iPhone handy, I could just pop it on my

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Speaker 1: ear lobe and say where am I at right now

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Speaker 1: in my heart and that would be something that could

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Speaker 1: bring me back into the Yeah, it's useful to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, you don't have to have it. Great

681
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: analogy or MASS founder Doctority was just talking to me

682
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Speaker 1: one day through this one analogy which I still remember

683
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Speaker 1: and love, and he said, yeah, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: have technology to pursue your heart. Work is certainly not necessary.

685
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Speaker 1: And he qualified that about three different ways, and then

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Speaker 1: he said, but you know, you don't really have to

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Speaker 1: have a GPS in your car to get around either.

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Speaker 1: We never had them for a long time. We would

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Speaker 1: figuring it out a different way using maps and polluting

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Speaker 1: into the service station and all that. He said, but

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Speaker 1: sure it's nice to having on one, isn't it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is. And so the same thing, You don't have

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Speaker 1: to have technology or anything like that to pursue your heart.

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Speaker 1: And we've all pursued our hearts for a long time

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Speaker 1: of that need that, but now that there is technology

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Speaker 1: that can assist us, it's gold to have it. M H.

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Speaker 1: And I am of the belief the more positively feel,

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Speaker 1: the more good things happen, and just based on my

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Speaker 1: own life, so yeah, why not. Can you talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the books. Yeah, we've the Heart Mass

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Speaker 1: published a bunch of books I co author to I

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Speaker 1: called my first one with Doc Shouldery. It was a

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Speaker 1: book called The Heart Mass Solution. And what people say

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Speaker 1: about that book, you know what sometimes people say when

705
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: they're introduced to me on a program like yours or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's become the definitive work on the intelligence of the

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Speaker 1: heart of true classic kind of thing. It sold a

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Speaker 1: lot of books, and it's been around a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, most books have a pretty short shelf

710
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Speaker 1: life of a few years. But Harper Collins, who published

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Speaker 1: this book, is still publishing it today. And it was

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Speaker 1: the first release. I wrote a second book with Doc

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Speaker 1: Shouldery and with two other Hart Math founding people, called

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Speaker 1: Hard Intelligence Relationships two thousand and sixteen. It went to

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Speaker 1: number one on Amazon in three different categories for a

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Speaker 1: day or two. So it got off to a really

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Speaker 1: good start. And so it's a you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: book about the intelligence of the heart and about the

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Speaker 1: have been accomplished the people, you know, making some changes

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Speaker 1: books are good books. Today, I think um play a

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Speaker 1: certainly you know reading things electronically, etcetera is the way

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Speaker 1: people do it. It's time for our last break, and

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlaine. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra champlain and you can

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Speaker 1: find out more about Howard at heartmath dot com. Now, Howard,

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Speaker 1: we were talking earlier about healing the moment. What is that?

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Speaker 1: How do you change that moment right now? How do

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Speaker 1: you make that shift inside from the stress and the

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Speaker 1: anxiety and the frustration into a more peaceful, calm place

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Speaker 1: that's healing the moment. As we heal the moments they

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Speaker 1: strained together, and as they strained together, what happens is

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Speaker 1: while we whether we realize it or not, we're really

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Speaker 1: rewriting what's going to happen in the future. It goes

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Speaker 1: back to an earlier part of our conversation about how

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Speaker 1: we are actually co creating reality and so happens moment

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Speaker 1: to moment Here on the moment, each and every moment

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Speaker 1: of every day, is best we can allowing for a humanness,

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Speaker 1: allowing for the challenges that life presents. Between coming back

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Speaker 1: to the hearts. Great. Lining back to the heart and

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Speaker 1: doing that with consistency is like writing a niche story

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Speaker 1: of our life, a feature story, and that feature eventually

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Speaker 1: comes into manifest station into the moment. But we're rewriting

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Speaker 1: that feature and say that requires a little structure. I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you to remember, well, I wasn't alive

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Speaker 1: when the people of the Earth believed that the Earth

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Speaker 1: was flat, but eventually mankind got that the planet is around.

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Speaker 1: When the day comes that people believe, embrace and that

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Speaker 1: tipping point has occurred, that people understand heart math and

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Speaker 1: the difference that our emotions play and what our heart

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Speaker 1: does in this electromagnetic field and coherence. When the day

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Speaker 1: that tipping point happens, what do you visualize could happen.

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Speaker 1: It's happening already. It's not gonna it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: in a big bang. It takes time to integrate. What's

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Speaker 1: happening is we're going through a dimensional shifting consciousness. We're

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Speaker 1: moving from a third dimensional based consciousness into not just

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Speaker 1: the fourth dimension, but the higher fourth dimension. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest is probably the biggest shift ever in

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Speaker 1: the history of humanity. It is a dimension and a

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Speaker 1: half shift, and it's happening in a relatively short amount

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Speaker 1: of time. But it's not gonna be like all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden one today, this big blast of energy hits

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Speaker 1: and we all wake up and everything's cool. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: work that way. It has to be stepped in. It

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Speaker 1: has to be brought in, then grounded, and then more

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Speaker 1: brought in, more integrated and grounded, and it's stepping stones

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Speaker 1: this way up. It's happening fast right now. It's actually

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Speaker 1: happening as fast as we can handle it. The world

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Speaker 1: is going through a lot of change. You see the

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Speaker 1: chaos happening in the world. At chaos, there's no accident.

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Speaker 1: You know. The world is changing and shifting and is

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Speaker 1: pushing the envelope on every single aspect. There is a

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Speaker 1: human kind in society and the systems that we've used

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Speaker 1: to guide it, and so that's happening pretty quick, and

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Speaker 1: the chaos is about all we can in or right now.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna happening. It is happening, and it's a

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Speaker 1: matter of you know, I think we are still controlling

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Speaker 1: your time some on how long it takes before that

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Speaker 1: baseline shift is really solid. What we have control over

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Speaker 1: is whether we can make that a faster or slower process.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, we have some influence over how gentle

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Speaker 1: and kind it can be, and that's where they're putting

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Speaker 1: the heart outs the most important. The world's gonna rock

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Speaker 1: and roll some for a while, but we can make

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Speaker 1: it as kind of general process as we him. And

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Speaker 1: there's so many things that could have been worse that weren't.

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Speaker 1: If we go back and begin to look at it,

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Speaker 1: we can see that there's a lot of progression going on,

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Speaker 1: a lot of facilitation, a lot of growth that's happening.

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Speaker 1: Humanity is responding well to the changes. Despite all the

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Speaker 1: craziness and aberrant behavior that we see, we're really headed

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. One of the keys to it, though,

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Speaker 1: You gotta keep putting your best foot forward and of

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Speaker 1: lives of others, and then let things happen. And it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen overnight, but in our lifetimes we will

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Speaker 1: see some significant changes. Uh. They give us, I think

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Speaker 1: verifications that guess what the shift's happening. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: water and how much sunlight, it takes time. I know

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Speaker 1: it is now. I'm working on that my whole life. Remember,

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Speaker 1: I'm always wanting to be a little bit ahead of

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Speaker 1: where things are. I tend to live in the fissure

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Speaker 1: and not in the past or the moment. And one

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Speaker 1: time again Doc Shorty was breaking me down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: do you like those racehorses and they are in that

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Speaker 1: around in that thing. You know, just can't wait to

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Speaker 1: blast out of the gate. He said, you're like that,

858
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Speaker 1: he said, but you do worse. He said, You're like

859
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: a racehorse that realized as he can't bug to so

860
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: he gets on his knees and try has to crawl

861
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: underneath the thing. That is so funny. But have you

862
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: ever found have you ever found? Howard? No matter how

863
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: fast we wanted to be, or if we think we

864
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: should be somewhere else by now, then all of a sudden,

865
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: maybe you sit next to somebody on the airplane and

866
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: you think, you know what, I was meant to be

867
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: here to have that conversation, and you realize you need

868
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: to be exactly right. And I learned this over time,

869
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we all do. Um. It just takes

870
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: a little practice, that's all. But yeah, you're right. It's

871
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: just we recognize that there's a flow to light and

872
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: when we accept that flow, then you know, we begin

873
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: to see the magic at all. It's our resistances to

874
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: it when he things to be different than they are

875
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: that often create you know, the choppiness and the flow

876
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: that leads to a lack of real fulfillment. I thought

877
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: of something else too, while we're talking about all this.

878
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: You ever be around people that you know you feel

879
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: the good vibes? Do you feel like you just want

880
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: to hang around them, you know, but you feel it

881
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: feels good. I can't help but think this is tied

882
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: in to that to heart math. It's about resonance. You know,

883
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: some we resonate with some people more than others. But

884
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: there are people that you know, it's there's a sort

885
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: of energy that they put out. It didn't even have

886
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: to be a big personality or something but they put

887
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: out a certain energy that gives us a feeling and

888
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: you sense that, and we resonate with some people that

889
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: have that more than we do others. But yeah, there's

890
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: people in our lives that's kind of why we like

891
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: hanging out with it because they how they make us

892
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: feel by just having this conversation. We can be those

893
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: people by in putting breathing through our heart and bringing

894
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: in the emotions of love and gratitude and appreciation. When

895
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: people know us to be one of those good feeling people,

896
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: they're good feeling and you know, and I think that

897
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: might be an explanation why I've recently been attracting some

898
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: really cool and fun and great people up to things

899
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: is what I'm putting out there so we can choose

900
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: to be that we can And that's the big choice

901
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: that we all need to make, you know. And Uh,

902
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: it isn't totally linear to where we make these speak

903
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: changes and all of a sudden, life just feeds back

904
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: everything perfect to us. But we have to look at

905
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: it in terms of listening to use the term ratios,

906
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: how much the things begin to go better than they

907
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: used to, you know, Uh, often does something cool happen

908
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: in our life that we were not expecting. But it

909
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: doesn't work always totally linearly, because we've had our own

910
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: soul working with us, and he's setting up a lot

911
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: of different geometries for our own growth, and so the

912
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: things wen't always just match handing up with what we

913
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm putting into the world. But my feeling is when

914
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: we had more heart, whatever that means to whoever is

915
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: listening right now, when we add more heart into whatever

916
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: we do, we never lose heart. It doesn't compete with anything.

917
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: We can only gain from that, So why not. That's

918
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: the philosophy that I've tried to live my life with Howard.

919
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed this, and in the beginning I said,

920
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, keep your seatbelt buckled. That's how I feel.

921
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: It's just really been great. Is there any questions I

922
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: should have asked you that I haven't, or any closing

923
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: words or anything. Well, first of all, let me just

924
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: say you've been a good interview. I've really enjoyed our

925
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: conversation as well. Feels very easy for me to talk

926
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: with you, very natural and flowing kind of feeling in

927
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: at all, and that's always enjoyable for me. So thank you.

928
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: For that and for having me, you know, as a

929
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: part of your program. Um in your closing comments would

930
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: just be things I've already said, just a little recap.

931
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: Please have compassion for yourself if you don't remember anything else,

932
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: trying to trying to do a little bit more that

933
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: that'll get you a long way. And you're actually serving

934
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: other people when you do that. It may not seem

935
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: that way, and it may seem self centered, but it's

936
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: not because you're making changes in yourself that are putting

937
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: out a different kind of energy that's feeding that bigger

938
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: field that we all live in. And therefore you're helping

939
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: others to lift their spirits by lifting yours to the

940
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: power of your own self compassion. So I urge you

941
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: to do that. And then basically, you know, listen to

942
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: and follow your heart. You know, uh, let it be

943
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: your God. Learn to trust you more. Learning it's you know,

944
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: it's your own best friend. It's there to help you

945
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: out and give you some insights and some perspectives to

946
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: help navigate life. Um, just be counter to other human beings,

947
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: a little more understanding of people, even when their behavior

948
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: doesn't match what you think it should be. Try to

949
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: have a little bit more latitude, a little more compassionate,

950
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: little more of a neutral and less judgmental perspective on things.

951
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: These simple things like that are are the keys, and

952
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: they're very, very powerful. And when we do those that

953
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: it will open us up to more of the stuff

954
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: that's really kind of fun. It has more sizzle, like

955
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: more intuitional downloads, more insights into what's happening in the

956
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: bigger picture of things that's happening in other side type

957
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: activities and things like that. Whatever we need to know

958
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: about all that will come as we begin to manifest

959
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: more of own hearts qualities. So whether you do it

960
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: through heart math or whether you find it other ways

961
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: to do it, all doesn't matter to me that you

962
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: truly found and connect with your own horror in some way.

963
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: Just please, you know, learn to accept and trust your

964
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: own best friend, your heart. That's beautiful, really good. This

965
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: is we an episode I listened to repeatedly, great advice, Howard.

966
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being our guest here today.

967
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: My pleasure, and I hope we have a chance to

968
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: meet some time, or that we get to do this

969
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: on your show again. I have a funny feeling both

970
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: will occur okay, care and by everybody who's been listening,

971
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: thanks and for our listeners, thank you for taking the

972
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: time to listen. But I want to tell you something else.

973
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: Don't go away just yet. Dr mass root Amoto. You

974
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: might have heard about him with the messages in water.

975
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Really good thing to google. But there's a scientific experiment

976
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: he did with the people in Japan. He had families

977
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: boiled one pot of rice and split the rice into

978
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: two glass jars. And in one room, place one glass

979
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: jar and talk to the rice, say loving things, sing

980
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: happy songs, think happy thoughts, happy positive thoughts. And in

981
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: the other room, put the other jar of rice into

982
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: that room negativity. And after the end of the month,

983
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: he had people gather the two jars of rice. The

984
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: rice that was in the negative room spoken to negatively,

985
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: and negative emotions felt around that rice. The end of

986
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: the month, it was black and it smelled foul. The

987
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: other jar of rice was a golden color and smelled nutty.

988
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: So this just goes to show that we do emit

989
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: something from our souls, from our being, from our auras.

990
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: You can also try that experiment with bananas. Banana in

991
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: one room, banana in the other. So you my friends

992
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: are much more powerful than you give yourself credit. For

993
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: a reminder to go to heart math dot com. There's

994
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: even a free heart math experience that you can do,

995
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: and our home base is we Don't Die dot com.

996
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm Sandra's Champlain and I really want to thank you

997
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: sincerely for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the

998
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal

999
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 1: podcast network. And if you like this episode of Shades

1000
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife, wait until you hear the next one.

1001
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the I Heart Radio and

1002
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network,