1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet and welcome to the No Dunk's Podcast, 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Monday, December fifteenth, twenty twenty five. 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skiff here in the new and improved Classic 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Factory and alongside me, as always. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Task Mellis podcast listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot boy, Trey Kirby, 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: a oh and overyonder making the magic happen. 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is here, we are. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: It's a cold day in Atlanta, but it's hot in 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: here with these new lights. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Yes, JD, you've done it, my man. Well, Tony and 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: Kyle came in and did it. 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Ah, Tony and Kyle shout out to them all right, 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Tony and Kyle. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: A lot more room in here too, airy. 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: This is step one. Things are still still in the works, 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: as JD said, yes today, Okay, we still have bells 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: and whistles to go. 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: Okay, actually no whistles here. 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Excellent comforting. It's comfort, it feels cozy and it does. 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: It really does. 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: It's lit very nicely, so if you like it, hit 23 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: the like button. Subscribe podcast listeners. Just here's your imagination 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: right now. How well lit we are give us a 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: five star rating and review for that. On today's show, 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: it's a Monday staple. We'll make our way through some 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: NBA weekend winners and losers, but. 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: We got to start by respecting the Cup. 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Saturday night, two semi finals games, let's talk about them. 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: We'll look forward to the final there on Tuesday night. 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: We got to start with Wee Minyama returning from a 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: twelve game absence with twenty two points nine boards given 33 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: the Spurs a huge boost and okay, see just their 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: second loss of the season. Spurs get the victory one eleven, 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: one oh nine. On Saturday night, they are on their 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: way to the NBA Cup Final. Great game besides the ending, 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: which was a glorified free throw shooting contest, but a 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: great game otherwise. 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: And Wemby was the star of this game. 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: It's like the next rivalry in the NBA is born. 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: It feels like, potentially, yeah, it has to be, because 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: this is Wemby growing. It was so fun to watch 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: him out there, not only diving on the floor and 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: cheering for his freaking team. That was fun, but also 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: just the types of shots he was getting. I love 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: the way the thunder you know, they're always gonna play defense, 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: and they're always gonna keep going the way they're guarding 48 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: him almost vertically, I thought, because you have to guard 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: him vertically the way they were just slashing at the ball, 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: especially Caruse, So they just know how to do that, 51 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: even though we didn't know Wemby was going to play, 52 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: and when becomes off the bench for the first time 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: in his career, so they're gonna get used to that. 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: I know. Thunder fans are super concerned. 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: What the heck? This is our second loss. 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: This is like their first loss of the season because 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: that other one was on a back to back and 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: we had a huge Drew Holiday night against the Thunder. 59 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: That won't happen again. This is just a new phase. 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: It really is to watch Wemby, the shots obviously on 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: home grin on the baseline, the up and down nature 62 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: of the Spurs just getting up there. This is it. 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: It's boor. It feels like this is step one. 64 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: But we got two more Spurs Thunder games over the 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: next ten days. Yeah, they played twice more coming up here, 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: one of them being on Christmas. 67 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Family gather around. We're watching the next great rivalry in 68 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: the NBA. Sit down and watch this. We're not watching football, 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: We're not opening presence. We're watching Chet versus Wemby. That 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: was awesome. Man, that was the best Cup game there 71 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: ever has been. 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: I even went back and looked at some of the 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: other elimination games just to make sure, because as soon 75 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: as they happen, you forget about them. Yeah, this one, 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: you're not going to forget about Wemby pulling a Willis 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: Reid coming back from injury. It was so weird the 78 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: way it went down in the first half, playing three 79 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: minutes in the first quarter, Like he came out instantly, 80 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: started dominating, mostly by hitting the offensive glass, and you're like, wow, 81 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: this is exciting. A team might be able to beat 82 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: the thunder someday. And he was gone after three minutes, 83 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: came back for another three minutes in the second quarter, 84 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: and it's just like, if he can be on the court, 85 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: it feels like the Spurs have a chance. And he 86 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: actually had to play in the fourth quarter and it 87 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: was awesome. Wendy couldn't dribble thunder wear all over him 88 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: anytime he put the ball on the floor. They put 89 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: a little guy on him to bump him, get physical. 90 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: And then swarmed him anytime he started to approach the rim. 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: But he could do everything else, So I thought that 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: was super smart. Go into the glass. He does have 93 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: a size advantage over literally everybody yea in the NBA. 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: So hit the glass and then if you can't dribble, 95 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: just shoot over the top. You're still the tallest guy there. 96 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: Hit that one on Caruso where Caruso like knocks it 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: out of his hands, somehow regains it, fades away, knocks 98 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: it down. That was so cool. You love to see 99 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: Wemby just talk and trash the entire time. Case and 100 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Wallace fouls and he flexes on him. Yeah, make Case 101 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: and Wallace laugh. He's like, hey, a foul, just a foul. 102 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: Points at Caruso after that shot, and then when Chet 103 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: misses the free throw at the end, yelling and screaming 104 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: for a Cup semi finals game. No, this guy was 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: fired up. He cares about winning the Thunder cared about 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: winning this game too. Very memorable. This one is unforgettable. 107 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. And again when he's on the bench, 108 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: he's jumping up and down for his teammates. He's not 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: just a guy who's gonna sit and save his energy 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: for the floor. He's just super excited. He's into it. 111 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: He'll read a book pregame and then he'll come out 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: when he's needed on the floor. He's a special guy 113 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: and he's starting this new era of the Spurs. And 114 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: I know we're kind of like jumping into this and 115 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: maybe sounds like we're making more out of it than 116 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: it is, but it's not. This is the Spurs born here. 117 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Well, some people are thinking the San Antonio Spurs saved 118 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: the twenty five to twenty six regular season because they 119 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: beat them. I think there might be some truth to it. 120 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's just like thunder rolling over 121 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: everybody here. Maybe everyone's like, ah, they're gonna probably win 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: the Cup, maybe they're gonna defend their title. But now, yeah, 123 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna see you in a couple more games, like 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I said, coming up here. But they can be beat 125 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: it generally, he's gonna have to take like Wemby being 126 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: out there because they weren't good money wasn't. But other 127 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: guys contributed for the Spurs too. Got a bunch of 128 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: guys hit threes again, obviously showed their athleticism, their speed. 129 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Like you said, sound games from Fox and Castle and 130 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So yeah, and there is some you know, 131 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: hate for each other. It feels like at least from 132 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Wemby to Chet not on a fan of his. 133 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: Uh. And that's great. We want that as basketball fans. 134 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, if the Thunder hit the open shots early 135 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: in this game. They missed a lot of open threes. 136 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 2: They were the fifth highest three point percentage team coming 137 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: into this game, and there are some stinky shots that 138 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: they missed. They may have been different than but Wenby 139 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: just changes everything. He really does. He's a plus twenty 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: in those six minutes in the first half. They were there. 141 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: This was a one point game in the end, and 142 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: Okay se could have played a lot better. They weren't 143 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: ready for the Wemby experience. They just weren't. Nobody was. 144 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean, on Friday here we talked about what okay 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: See can get to this season. They can get to 146 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: seventy four to seventy five, and we pointed out the 147 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: two games the Christmas Eve Eve and then Christmas that 148 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: Spurs could knock them off one of those times because 149 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: Wenby would be back. We didn't know, We couldn't see 150 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: what Wenby could become here this earth. But to combine 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: him with Devin Vissel splashing those three Stefan castle with 152 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: that spin finish, and then when he saw a post 153 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: game he even ooh, oh wow, that's me. How good 154 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: he looked doing that. He even had a look away 155 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: on the inbound pass for the Wemby dunk. He game 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: to the inbound pass the blob and then he just 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: looked out to the side like, wow, that was pretty cool. 158 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: So I think a lot of things went wrong for 159 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: the thunder of me. Jalen Williams is sixteen shots to 160 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: get seventeen points like this felt like his worst regular 161 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: season game of his career, felt like it felt like 162 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: he could he could have been way more efficient anyways, 163 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: efficiency wise, Shay struggled when Wemby was on the floor, 164 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: those miss threes. I think there's the way they guard Wenby. 165 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: I think it will be interesting these next two games. 166 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: I know, I love the slashes that he said they 167 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: guard him vertically, But is it just gonna be Chet 168 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: one on one? I think so. I think they're going to. 169 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: Try that Chat on Wemby. I think so Chat never 170 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: guards Wemby. 171 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: I know, I think they have to see that just 172 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: to see what he can become instead of just the 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: guy because he's gonna he's too smart. He's gonna shoot 174 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: over those guys. I mean, they're gonna slash. You're gonna 175 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: get a Caruso, You're gonna get You're gonna get a 176 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: little case in Wallstreet Jalen Williams mostly, but I think 177 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: you have to gart him one on one to see, 178 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: just to see because this is again, this is just 179 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: to try it out here in the regular season and 180 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: this is a new era here. 181 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: Well maybe see. Uh. Yeah, the ending, like I said, 182 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: took forever. It was ridiculous. It's just stupid. It's we've 183 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: done this every year. Last nine seconds there were three 184 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: timeouts and five take fouls. On Basketball Reference, you know 185 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: they do the play by play each individual thing. Yeah, 186 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: gets the line forty line items in nine seconds. 187 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, stupid. 188 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. The game, it really it did. 189 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: The final twenty seconds of the basketball game took like 190 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: thirteen minutes. Yeah, and there was a lot of intentional 191 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, fouling and obviously spurs fouling when they're up 192 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: three and people are debating like should we get rid 193 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: of that tweak that rule where maybe it's just one 194 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: shot and you keep the ball, like, uh, maybe you 195 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: can just decline it like football, right, you know, you 196 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: don't have to actually take the penalty if you don't 197 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: want to. So there's a lot of options you could do, 198 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and the NBA should because this ruins what was a 199 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: very entertaining, great game, and it makes the ending, which 200 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: should be the best part, the absolute worst part. And 201 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: nobody's saying like, oh, what are you doing, Spurs, you 202 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: ruined it. No, these are the rules, so they're smart 203 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: to do it and elect to play that game. But 204 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: we could change that as a league and probably should, 205 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: in addition to all the timeouts and all of the 206 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: reviews and all this. 207 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: Stuff, reduce it all. Yeah, it used to be a 208 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: debate like should a team foul up three? And now 209 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: it's not even a debate. Everybody knew back then it 210 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: was the smart thing to do, but some coaches wanted 211 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: to play it old school, let's get our defense out there. No, 212 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: you follow up three, but unfortunately it means you follow 213 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: up three every single time. It was so annoying. Just 214 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. This was maybe the game of the year. 215 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: It's one of the five best games on the short list, 216 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: and I'll probably eventually forget about the ending being brutal 217 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: because the first forty seven minutes were so awesome, but 218 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: that last minute it's just so annoying. But with regards 219 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: to Jalen Williams, with regards to Shay, I give a 220 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: lot of credit to the Spurs from making it tough 221 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: on them. I thought they'd defended Sga about as well 222 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: as you can. They forced him out of the mid range, 223 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: Castle was all over him. He was being just as 224 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 3: physical on defense as the Thunder are physically on defense, 225 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: and you can get away with it when you got 226 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: wemby hanging out behind to like encourage it. They were 227 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: doubling getting the ball out of his hands, and then 228 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: Jalen Williams just couldn't make him pay for getting the 229 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: ball out of Shay's hands. You know, he's coming back 230 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: from injury, he's kind of getting his rhythm back, so 231 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: I think he can be better going forward. You know, 232 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: this loss doesn't really change my opinion that the Thunder 233 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: are clearly the Naborites at all. They still should challenge 234 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: for seventy wins, but I think this does mess with 235 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: their pace, taking them from like a seventy eight win 236 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: pace to US seventy four wins stink now, but it 237 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: was interesting to see the Thunder really having to work 238 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: on offense and having it not work all that well. 239 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: You can't really replicate Wemby, but you can replicate being physical, 240 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: you can replicate going to the offensive glass, you can 241 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: replicate being the bigger team. These are the only ways 242 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: you can beat the Thunder. The Spurs did have the 243 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: perfect mix on Saturday Night. Not every team is gonna 244 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: have that. You gotta do it four times in a 245 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: playoff series, but at least there's a little bit of 246 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: a recipe out there. Yeah. 247 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out if the Spurs and 248 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Wemby really are the kryptonite to the Thunder or is 249 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: it just Vegas because. 250 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: They lose Vegas too. 251 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's two years in a row where they've 252 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: come up short here when we get to the to 253 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: the semifinals in the finals last year. 254 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, can't wait for these two games. 255 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: Coming up and the last year for the semifinals to 256 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: be in Vegas. It'll be in the home court of 257 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: every single team next year. 258 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: And they're also I saw Bontemps reporting that they're talking 259 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: about the league is discussing whether even the final is 260 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: going to be in Vegas at this point, but I 261 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: think next year yeah it will. But moving forward, maybe 262 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: you know the crowds, What did you think of the 263 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: crowds overall, especially with the first game it's like two 264 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: thirty local time there for Nick's magic. 265 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, the OKAC crowd did not compare to Oka see 266 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: the arena and I know you can just say, of course, 267 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: but it didn't even didn't even feel buzzy the same way. 268 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: You know, it didn't feel loud at all. 269 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: Well, there were more well there were also more Spurs 270 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: fans for the Spurs. 271 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, yeah, And so you know, Thunder, they're like, well, okay, 272 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: this is weird. 273 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: We're the higher seed. 274 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: We've won more games in the knockout stage to get 275 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: this obviously seeding, and it's like we're at a deficit here, 276 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: but on this neutral site with more Spurs fans and attendance. 277 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, making the right move at least for the 278 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: semifinals to be in your own barn and then maybe 279 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: keep it neutral. Yeah maybe it's maybe I don't know, 280 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: maybe it goes other places. Whatever you could do that 281 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: anything else from that one. 282 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: Stefan Castle is really good. 283 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Now. 284 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: He's just really taken a leap and I think one 285 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: of the biggest improvements he's made is finishing inside because 286 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: he's a great downhill driver. Dwayne Wade was talking all 287 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: night about playing off two feet. That's a Dwayne Wade 288 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: move right there. He had the three six where he 289 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: tried to draw like a hard and rip through fiul 290 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: didn't work, such a spun and hit a layup that 291 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: was so cool. He had that like he was driving 292 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: from the right to the left, finishes on the left 293 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: side with a righty scoop that was a swish. Probably 294 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: didn't mean for that to happen, but he was playing 295 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: through contact the entire night. It is because he can 296 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: go off two feet. He's an explosive athlete. He's gone 297 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 3: from like sixty five percent at the rim, which is 298 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: a good number, to like seventy five percent at the rim, 299 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: which is an incredible number. And that has just opened 300 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: everything up for him. And he's gotten so much smarter 301 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: about the way he play makes and this kind of 302 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: stuff as well. He is really like not a great 303 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: rookie class. Last year he kind of felt to me 304 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: a little bit like a default Rookie of the Year, 305 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: but seeing the way he's played in his second season, 306 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: it makes me feel like he earned it more his 307 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: rookie year. Like I'm like, oh, actually he's good. He's 308 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: actually really good. He's not just the best of an 309 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: okay flash, He's got some John Wall to his game. 310 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 311 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: The way he manipulates things and is able to be 312 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: the fastest guy out there sometimes but also change his 313 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: speeds and stuff very good. 314 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like he has improved. That's why these 315 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: Spurs are for real. Even as ready as people will 316 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: be for Wemby and they're gonna get physical with him, 317 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna throw that little body at him. They're here, man, 318 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: the Spurs are here. And yeah, those two days Christmas 319 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: Eve and Christmas. I like calling it ev I know, 320 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: because they don't have to. You don't have to say 321 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: it two days before back to back. 322 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: I'm just twenty third. Is the Festivus? 323 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 324 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, the Festus. Yeah, Wemby in a festival, Uh, 325 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: that'll be fun. There's no doubt they're gonna try and 326 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: pull Wemby out as much as possible because Wemby was 327 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: in there, and that's why the Spurs were getting so aggressive, 328 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: and that's why Shay had the most Turnoverseas had this 329 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: season with those five turnovers, and their three point shots 330 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: were not as good as they could be. And they're 331 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: gonna focus on that. They're gonna focus on guarding him 332 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: even more. They're gonna focus on getting in the paint. 333 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: The only one points in the paint by four they 334 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: usually destroy because of Wemby obviously, and they won't miss 335 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: layups like that. Caruso missing that literally, that the bunniest 336 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: of bunnies with one thirty. Lad, that's what he's thinking about. 337 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: He did the I guess that the Harrison Bards impression. 338 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: He put the hands on his head. Harrison Barnes listening 339 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: to Vanessa Carlton. 340 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: I think it was Bembo in the end. 341 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: Either way, somebody had their hands on their head and 342 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Crusoe was so upset. I couldn't see if that was 343 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: a foul on Crusoe on the lay end at the 344 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: layer end end he missed the one at one thirty, 345 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: but then the end end, I don't know. I wouldn't 346 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: call that a foul. 347 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: No, no, Also, especially considering who it is. That's complaining 348 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: about it. You get away with a lot. 349 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: That's fair. 350 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: You guys play very physical, you set the tone. The 351 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: thing is the Spurs matched to you in this game. 352 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: That's right, That's what it is. And that made for 353 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: a very entertaining game. But yeah, no, I'm sorry. I 354 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: don't think you have much case there on that last one. 355 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Nobody's given a cruise of the benefit of the doubt. 356 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: But he had a sick dunk as well. 357 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, ham. 358 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was I was. 359 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: Feeling like, stand bang gunny man. I just love that. 360 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: I think the sport of basketball be played at a 361 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: high level. Stampre Gundy was hilarious. 362 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: Man. 363 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: He was like in podcast mode. I felt like he 364 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: would just chime in to say the most obvious things 365 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: as a kept going back to that. Well it hit 366 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: once and then the other times. I was like, okay, Stan, yeah, 367 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: we also like basketball, we do, indeed. 368 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: And that was the Spurs first game. Correct me if 369 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm wrong with their four main main guys right in Wemby, Fox, Harper, 370 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: and Castle all playing I think so yeah, so that's fun. 371 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 372 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: And then the Lama Kelvin Johnson's lama maybe maybe more 373 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: than one lama at this point with the money that 374 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: they could make here after it's all said and done. 375 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: Even now, it's like they get what two hundred thousand? Yeah, 376 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's made enough off of 377 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: this cup to get a lama, regardless of win or not. 378 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Can you can you clarify they do get like the 379 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: additional money, right, It's not like you win the cup 380 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: and you get the five hundred thousand dollars. You also 381 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: are getting the other monetary values advancing, right, So like 382 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: in the end, my point is you're making over seven 383 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars for a cup win. 384 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm asking. I'm like, which guy see it? 385 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: Because you because you're saying you see money. They get 386 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: money for losing in the quarterfly, So I'm saying, fifty 387 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: k Do do you get that in addition each level, 388 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: each stage? 389 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 3: I legit don't know, And I was debating Chrisha about it. 390 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know. I would think it's 391 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: like who wants to be a millionaire? You gotta okay, 392 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: keep getting. 393 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: To the list. I think so okay. Speaking of money, 394 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: I mentioned on Friday the Spurs were at a great 395 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: line to win the Southwest Division plus two eighty. They're 396 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: now down to plus one ninety. Still a decent time 397 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: for them to pass the Houston Rockets. Still a decent 398 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: time to get in. Get all the Southwest salads you 399 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: can get our man, Kelvin Johnson gets a lama, but 400 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: you can get all the Southwest tastiness from wherever you 401 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: get your Southwest salads. Okay, do you have. 402 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: A favorite Southwest salad? The bagged bag bag Southwest salad 403 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: is pretty good. Hey man, throw some fish stick in 404 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: an air fiar and you got yourself a fish taco. 405 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: Just saying, wow, that's a nice little tip there. 406 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, jb Oliver, fish taco underrated. You're You're right. 407 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: I've never made myself a fish taco, so I might 408 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: have to try this. Yeah, he was good, quick meal. 409 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: The Chick fil A Southwest respectable also respect Yeah, we'll. 410 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: Respect that as well. First game we had Jalen Brunson 411 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: scoring a season. I have forty points to lead the 412 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: Knicks past the magic one thirty two one twenty. That 413 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: puts New York through to the NBA Cup Finals. So 414 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: they will take on the Spurs. Nicks have won five 415 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: in a row and nine of their last ten. Trey 416 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Where do you want to start with this one? 417 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: Is it? Is it Brunson going for a forty brigger 418 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: there in Vegas? Yeah? He was pretty sweet. Yeah, a 419 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: season high forty. I think for Brunson had the nice 420 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: crossover on Anthony Black where he sat him down on 421 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 3: the floor and had a conversation with him and then 422 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: knocked down a three pointer. I thought that was big. 423 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 3: I thought Karl Anthony Towns had a big and one 424 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: drive started fluxingly crazy put the Knicks up six with 425 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: three thirty left. But this was a fun game and 426 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: to me kind of felt a little bit potential Conference 427 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: finals preview between the Knicks and the Magic. I think 428 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: the Knicks are kind of by far the best team 429 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference right now, and I've got the 430 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: Magic right in the second tier. It's like them and 431 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: the Pistons. You put the Pistons ahead. I believe they've 432 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: been better so far this season. And the Jalen Suggs 433 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: thing is a little concerning the way he had such 434 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: a big first half. He looked kind of unstoppable. It 435 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: looked like the Knicks didn't have anybody quick enough to 436 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: keep up with him keep him from getting where he 437 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: wanted to go. But then for whatever reason, tweaked something 438 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: in his hip and wasn't able to finish the game. 439 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 3: I thought it was a little scary when they interviewed 440 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: him at halftime and they're like, are you feeling okay, 441 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 3: You're feeling good, and he's like, yeah, I feel good, 442 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: and then they like pull out the shot and he's 443 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: just like covered in bandages, like bandages from his nipples 444 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: to his knees. I was like, oh, and then he 445 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: got hurt even more in the second half. The Magic 446 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: just had not been able to catch a break between 447 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: last season's couple of oblique injuries and a knee injury 448 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: to Sugs And you got Polo going out with injury 449 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 3: right when he comes back a game and a half later, 450 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: Franz goes out. Now it looks like they might be 451 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: missing Suggs for a little bit of time here. But 452 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: if the Magic were able to get some semblance of 453 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: health going into the playoffs, they are a good team. 454 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: Desmond Bain has really found his spot there in Orlando, 455 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: and it felt to me like these teams would probably 456 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: get in a fight if they get into a playoffs 457 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: series against each other, a couple of ornery moments. 458 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: Yep, it was awesome just to watch Bronson period. He 459 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: just had the off balance, on balance, off balance, the 460 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: shots making to go up against Suggs, which is great 461 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: to see for Jalen Suggs. In that first half, he 462 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: was fricking awesome. I thought Paul Buncaro was really really 463 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: good adapting to his role here as they moved it 464 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: fast enough. I know he kind of got into his 465 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: dribble mode a little bit and he missed every single 466 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: three he took. But I thought the recipe is there 467 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: for a really good Magic team without Franz to be 468 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: able to hang blow for blow with Jaylen Brunson, who's 469 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: going to get MVP votes, and everybody else following in 470 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: order perfectly behind him on that next team. It's so perfect. 471 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had Kat going for twenty nine on a 472 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: really good shooting night, nine of eleven, hit a couple 473 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: three zero turnovers. 474 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: You love to see too. 475 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Og with twenty four eight to thirteen, he hit a 476 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: bunch of threes, he added six boards, Bridges chipped in 477 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: with sixteen and efficient shooting in obviously heavy minutes and 478 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: then Josh Hart too, I mean obviously fills the box score. 479 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I thought that too. 480 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: It was like everybody playing their role absolutely perfect, and 481 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: there's a magic team that is good on defense and 482 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: they got Embarre, I mean, the Nick shot sixty one percent, 483 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: like they were efficient, held the edge in points in 484 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: the paint, committed very few turnovers. They're just like this 485 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: is like, I'm with you that maybe the Magic get there. 486 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: But my takeaway was like, oh, yeah, the Knicks are 487 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: clearly the better team here in the Eastern Conference, and 488 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: a part of it, yes, injuries coming into play, but 489 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: they're just a step ahead here of where Orlando wants 490 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: to get to and will be an absolutely bummer of 491 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: a season if they don't make the conference finals at 492 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: the very least for the Knicks. 493 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: Oh we're talking, yeah, I mean, it's a disappointing season 494 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: if they don't make the finals. They filed the coach 495 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: that took him to the conference finals for the first 496 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: time twenty five years. 497 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, And here we are at this point 498 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: with the Milwaukee Bucks stinking it up, and we'll talk 499 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: about them later and whether or not the Knicks have 500 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: to go get him, and whether he gives up on 501 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: his team after seeing what they did against the Brooklyn 502 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: that's yesterday. I know I. 503 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Losing hope in the Milwaukee Bucks Wow, and the chances 504 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: of keeping you honest. 505 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: We'll talk, we'll talk. I didn't say that. I did 506 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: not say that. We'll talk about it later, whether or 507 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: not it's up to him. It's up to him if 508 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: it's now or at the end of the season. Is 509 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: the perfect time when the Knicks don't win a championship 510 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: and he can say, all right, I'm the guy to 511 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: get you over the top. But they look, yeah, they 512 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: look absolutely spectacular like they should get there. They're doing 513 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: it without the Deuce off the bench, without Duce McBride. 514 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: Tyler Kollik has been great for them. I know everybody 515 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: calling him Steve Nash, not every body, but he's number thirteen. 516 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: He's a white guy. His hair is flowing like he's 517 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: Steve Nash. 518 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: The most disrespectful thing I've ever. 519 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: Heard to Steve Nash. 520 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it just hey. But he's not even close. 521 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: He's on Nash is on the Amazon broadcast. It's easy 522 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: to just compare the two white guys. But he's not 523 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: obviously not not even close to the player. 524 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 3: Well, I'm Ernie Johnson. Then hey, Forrestculla gave a shot 525 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: in the arm. He did, he did. He's actually a 526 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: good player. 527 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Ye got to steal. 528 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: Steve Nash could never oh you know, gotta steal and 529 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: he dished it for a layup right underneath. But I 530 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: actually think he's a decent backup point guard. Like Bride 531 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: is out, they can sub him in and not take 532 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: a massive step backwards. 533 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. There's no doubt. And the Magic 534 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: got some some of those shots off the bench too. 535 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: When you see a Jet Howard jump in there and 536 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: shots they felt like they were deep, And that's surprising 537 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: with Franz out that they responded so freaking well. 538 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: So Nick Spurs Tuesday night in Vegas for the Cup title. 539 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: It's either like a coronation of sorts. I guess here 540 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: for Wenby like to get his first real trophy or 541 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: really the first trophy for Knicks basketball men's basketball at 542 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: least in like fifty years fifty plus. Yeah, where are 543 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: you leaning in Tuesday Night's game here, Spurs or Knicks 544 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: taking this. 545 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: I'm leaning to the Knicks. I think veteran teams win 546 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: the Cup. Okay, veteran than the Spurs are, but I'm 547 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: just excited I see Wemby in a winner take all game. Yep, 548 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: of course it's happening in the United States. He can't 549 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: beat the United State, but maybe he can beat the 550 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: United States too. 551 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, for some reason with the Knicks too. Yeah, because 552 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: they look like they have been themselves now for a 553 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: few weeks and Spurs are still feeling it out a 554 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: little bit. I wouldn't be surprised. 555 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine the line will be all that 556 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: big in this one. It's currently two and a half 557 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: for New York. Yeah, okay, that sounds right. 558 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean how many more minutes does Wemby 559 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: get on Tuesday? Is it gonna be in the same ballpark? 560 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: Try and obviously reduce those still keep them limited. 561 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: That's a key part. I mean, he's out there. 562 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: If you tell me right now, Wemby's gonna play. Oh no, no, 563 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna be unleashed. He's gonna play forty minutes. And 564 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I like the Spurs chances, but I 565 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: can't imagine they're doing that. I got to play the 566 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: long game and hopefully it's another competitive game that doesn't 567 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: end a bunch of free throws all this time. 568 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: That'd fun, That would be fun. 569 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh you guys who go on Nick's all 570 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: go spurs just for fun. One part move o. There 571 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: are things that I liked from our Saturday Night Cup festival. 572 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: The gold looks better this year. Last year they had 573 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: a pale gold. Yes, look like a well hydrated yearine. 574 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: This looks good. It looks like a championship gold. Yes, 575 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: looks way way better. I did like Iron Eagle on 576 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: this broadcast. This was during the next game. He got 577 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: a promo to read about something with the rapper NOAs 578 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: and called him and Dwayne Wade was not having it. 579 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: You could tell Eagle was a little embarrassed. It's like 580 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: he probably practiced it like ten times. That's what he's like. 581 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: He's practice all those pronunciations for the players, and then 582 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: they slipped up problem with nas in it, and it 583 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: just comes out nas, man, this is not the Fast 584 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: and Furious Universe. 585 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's spelled the na s And once you 586 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: get a piece of paper in front of you may 587 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: say nos. 588 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: He performed, but they kept promoting that yeah, and then yeah, 589 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: Finally he did perform. I couldn't tell if it was 590 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: live or not. I imagined it wasn't, but it was dark, 591 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: so it was a little perplexing. 592 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 593 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: He played some new songs. He's got a new album. 594 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I will be missing that. Well, 595 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm telling you he does no offense to my friend 596 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: at NAS. 597 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: I will listen. I will listen if it's out. I haven't, 598 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: but I. 599 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: Think it just came. 600 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: I assume it probably comes out when he performs. 601 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, rappers over forty, it's not gone. That happened for me. 602 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: The Clips album also, didn't listen to it. It was good, 603 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: it was rap. 604 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: Is a young man's game, of course it is. Yeah, 605 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: then these are old guys. 606 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all hanging on. 607 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: No, podcasting is an old man's game. 608 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: That's true. It's not wrapping. 609 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: Everybody who's in their prime is old in the podcasting world. 610 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 3: And speaking of prime, the other thing, I think it's true. 611 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. It's every NBA player is 612 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: retired from their primary. 613 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah question, yeah, but do they have good pods? 614 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 3: Well, they had no pods. Yeah, you know, like the 615 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: figurehead of the podcasting industry is oldate fifties. Yeah, you 616 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: got to be old to be a podcaster, is what 617 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Uh, hey we're old. A younger end up 618 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: podcasting here. I'm just saying it's it's an old man's 619 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: game compared to rapping. Yeah, you don't have in comparison 620 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: when you're a rapper. Bill Simmons fifty six. Yeah, to 621 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: look it up old. But like the other thing I 622 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: was going to say, did you guys watch any Prime Vision? No, 623 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: the secondary broadcast the Amazon Prime was doing. Basically they 624 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: make it into two K. It's a different camera angles, 625 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: a lot of like the baseline overhead, and then it 626 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: switches as they switch half quarts. It puts like the 627 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: little circles that spin around when the guys have the 628 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 3: ball when they shoot it. Sometimes I have the arc. 629 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: It was awesome. 630 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Oh it was actually great good. Yeah, it was really 631 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: really good. Those usually don't do much for me. I 632 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: gotta say when you were selling it like it was 633 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: like two ks, like not interested. 634 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: But I kind of actually think the two K camera 635 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: angle is better than the standard NBA broadcast angle. You 636 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: can actually see where guys are on the floor, and 637 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: like the way they exploit space and get into different 638 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: kind of cracks and the crazy finishes they do. We're 639 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: just so used to seeing at the sideline angle that 640 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: it throws you off. 641 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: But it looks good, Okay, not to fire it up. 642 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: I didn't sure they're doing it for the final here 643 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: on Tuesdays. 644 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure. Yeah. 645 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: I saw a rail line camera, you know, the one 646 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: that sort of feels like it's on a dolly. It's 647 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: from the side but lower and kind of slides along. 648 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: That was on some sort of stream. I don't know 649 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: which one it was, but it was the NBA app. 650 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: Here's your other sideline stream. 651 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 5: You know. 652 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: That's always cool. For some time, it feels like you're 653 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 2: almost there there, Yeah, and you can you can see, 654 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: speaking of the distances or just the space in between guys. 655 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: You can see how fricking tide it is and how 656 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: hard it is to get in between those little ang. 657 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: Especially when Wemby and Chet are out there. 658 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: You have a lot of more space those guys, those 659 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: angular guys. 660 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: Anything else on the. 661 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: Cup Mitchell Robinson was supposed to see the Zach Brown band. 662 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know that's it. That's really my point. 663 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: He was that he was the Zach Brown band was 664 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: doing their thing at the Sphere. I think he was 665 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: only there for one interesting Yeah, I guess they are 666 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: a big act. 667 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Mitch's funny from the Knicks Social team asking the guys 668 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: as they were coming in there's a video where they're doing, like, 669 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: which artist would you want to see it? 670 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: The sphere? 671 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, general alive, I think. 672 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 673 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: Mckil bridges hit me with a hull of oats. 674 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 675 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I cannot expect that. I thought 676 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: it was more sort of more obvious answers for a 677 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: lot of the other guys. 678 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess he's all on oates fan. 679 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break and when we come back 680 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: we will get to other NBA weekend winners and then 681 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: some losers as well. 682 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: Every time my father in law comes over, he goes 683 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: into my gym. You know, he pretends to work out 684 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: and does the whole thing. 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We'll do one round of winners and one 721 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: round of looters. 722 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: Today. I got the Minnesota Timberwolves as a winner of 723 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: the weekend. Anthony Edwards didn't play over the weekend. He's 724 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: out with a foot injury, but two wins for the Timberwolves. 725 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: They beat the Warriors on Friday. They beat the Kings 726 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: yesterday on Sunday. I was more interested in the Warriors game, 727 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: though I part took in both. Steph Curry came back 728 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: thirty nine points for that guy. Twenty seven lead changes 729 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 3: in this game really exciting to watch. The Wolves went 730 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: on a twenty to seven run in the fourth quarter. 731 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: They built a twelve point lead. I thought part of 732 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: it was good defense from the Timberwolves, but also the 733 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: Warriors were just ice cold for a long stretch of 734 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter in Minnesota's bench pretty much was running 735 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: on every single stop. But the Warriors got hot. They 736 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: charged back thanks to Curry hitting some threes and to 737 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: Anthony Melton making plays all over the court. Yeah line, 738 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: time and time again. Warriors took the lead on a 739 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: Curry three pointer with two minutes left, but the Timberwolves 740 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: actually executed down the stretch. That is a big time 741 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: question mark for them this season. But at tended to 742 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: run to close the game out, and part of it 743 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: was Rudy Gobert just dominating inside. No Draymond for the Warriors, 744 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: and Quentin Post couldn't do anything with this guy and 745 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, Gobert had twelve points, six rebounds, went 746 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: six of six from the field. Jaden McDaniels was set 747 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: in the table for him, had a couple of really 748 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: beautiful passes to set up go Bar. Dante DiVincenzo hit 749 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: a couple of big three pointers, including a dagger with 750 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: twenty eight seconds left. Five Timberwolves finished in double digits 751 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: in this game. Randall had twenty seven, go Bar had 752 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: twenty four, Devincenzo twenty one. Nos Breed's been playing really well. 753 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: He had eighteen, and McDaniels had seventeen plus some assists. 754 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 3: Like I said, the bench was decent. Arren Shannon Junior 755 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: nine points. Rob Dillingham most impressed. I've ever been Rob 756 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: filling him. He had six points. Yeah, but he was big, 757 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 3: I thought in the fourth quarter. The biggest player of 758 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: the game to me, though, was Quentin Post had a 759 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: wide open three pointer minute and ten left from the 760 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 3: right corner. He just waited. He was this was a 761 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: task melus two open shoot rhythm man, and he catches 762 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: it and shoots it, probably knocks it down, but he stopped. 763 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: He looked, looked down. He may have even I think 764 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: he dribbled. He's forever. Yeah, yeah, man shoot it and 765 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: he bricked it. Yeah. Same recipe on Sunday though, for 766 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: the Timberwolves against the Kings. No at in this one, 767 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: but five players in double digits once again. Twenty four 768 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 3: for Randall, one for McDaniels, who has a much better 769 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 3: handle this season. Like he does behind the back moves, 770 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: he goes between his legs. He's got some craft to 771 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 3: him now. Nas had twenty, Devincenzo had eighteen, and Bones 772 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: Highland played great eighteen points and five assists. He was 773 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: making extra passes, he was rebounding, he was doing winning 774 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: play type of things. I was quite impressed with Bones 775 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: Highland as well. Zach Lavine went out with the sprained 776 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: ankle in this one. Rudy Gobert had to miss the 777 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 3: majority of the second half dude to personal reasons. Haven't 778 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 3: heard what that has to do yet. We will see. 779 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: But this was a nice weekend for the Timberwolves to 780 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: stack up a couple of wins. They've won seven of 781 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: their last dight. They have been dominating the bad teams. 782 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: But they're dominating the bad teams. That's good. I like that. 783 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: The Minnesota Timbolves are the guy that's like, I'll catch 784 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: up later. That's how it feels like in the Western Conference, 785 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: Like we got these thunder off to the hot start. 786 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: The Nuggets, the Rockets, the Spurs, the Lakers, and it's like, 787 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: what's wrong with Minnesota, But they're like, I'll catch up later, 788 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: don't worry. And I feel like they're like getting there, 789 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they obviously are not 790 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: in that lower level tier like play in almost here. 791 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: They're going to be fine, is my point. And that 792 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: was a good solid weekend with know Anthony Edwards. 793 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Western Conference standings are ridiculously tight. It feels 794 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: like the Timberwolves could jump up at some point. But 795 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: I agree I've kind of lumped Anthony Edwards into that, Hey, 796 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: he'll get it going later on in the season. That's 797 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: part of who he is, his resume, just his aura. 798 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: He's like, all right, we'll take care of this at 799 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: some point. But I thought de Vincenzo is super key 800 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: against the Golden State Warriors, and we talked about whether 801 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: a package would include him going out for a guy 802 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: like Kobe White if they need a score, a guy 803 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: who would totally replace like a Bones Island that they've 804 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: you know, experimented and tried to get him going, or 805 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: Terren Shannon, who also produced extremely well. Rudy Gobert was monstrous, 806 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: though I wonder if Draymond Green was at home watching 807 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: and just wishing that he could go bang with him. 808 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: Did he produce a podcast after that, I don't know. 809 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so, but he definitely would have talked 810 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: about how he could have banged Rudy Gobert real hard, 811 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: down low, not banged in that way, Murphy. There's banging 812 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 2: that happens on NBA floors every single night. No one 813 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: naked guy. 814 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: Wearing the number sixty nine. 815 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were impressive. Yeah, and you mentioned everybody nas 816 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 2: don't call me NAS read everybody super super good out 817 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: there for the Wolves. They needed to get it going 818 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 2: obviously without Anthony Edwards. So it's just they just need them. 819 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: They need to spark, and that's who they are at 820 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 2: the end, at the hand of every season. So you know, 821 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: it's obviously super early, but literally two through six is 822 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 2: separated by two games, so anything can happen. 823 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you think they're actually better than any 824 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: of the teams ahead of them? Ahead of them is okay? 825 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 3: See Denver, Houston, Lakers, Spurs that pretty tough to break 826 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: in that top five, and against that top five they're 827 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 3: not very good. 828 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they are better than the Lakers, who 829 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: they show they can outrun and outpace like they did 830 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I think I think they are of 831 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 2: any of those teams. I know, we we just gave 832 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: a ton of love to the but I think they 833 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 2: can hang. I would like to see a Rudy versus 834 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: Wemby run in the playhoffs, but it would be Yeah. 835 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: These these series are when the Timberwolves really really show 836 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: out to me in a series of any of these teams, 837 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: for sure. 838 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so Timberwlves big winner. Who do you have? 839 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm going with Joel Embiid. He's playing basketball more because 840 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 2: before this weekend he was required to take two days 841 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 2: off after every single game. Friday, he played awesome against 842 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 2: the Pacers. A lot of mid range, a lot of 843 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: where Wemby will operate for the next twenty years, hanging 844 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 2: out there. He went to the free throw line eighteen times. 845 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 2: Shot he played thirty two minutes, the most of his season, 846 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: and then after the game he said, you know, I 847 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: hope the plan changes for me. I hope I can 848 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 2: just sit for one night. And for the first time 849 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: it happened on Sunday he played against the Hawks just 850 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: after one night in between. Now he wasn't spectacular, but 851 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: he was twenty two and fourteen thirty minutes. He had 852 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: Paul George playing those both games. I thought he had 853 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: a really big baste against his old team, the Pacers, 854 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 2: and then he had thirty five against the Hawks. 855 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: He was on fire. Yeah, he was hitting insane shots. Yeah, 856 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: he couldn't miss there for a stretch out and shake 857 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: vat crazy though. That was lockdown. 858 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not He's not the same Paul George to 859 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: be able to get by guys the same way. Because 860 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 2: he was super popped with that last minute bucket against 861 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: the Pacers, like he felt like old Paul George. But 862 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: he's you know, he's not the same guy. But they 863 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 2: do this without Tyres Maxy, who had an illness for 864 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: both games. So that's just a big, big win. And 865 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: lost they lost against the Hawks, but it is just 866 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: overall to see those guys play two games of basketball, 867 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: it's a win. I know it ain't fun, but it is. 868 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: It is a win. And they were just they're cohesive, 869 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: and I think Nick Nurse is back in those guys. 870 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: He's back in this guy Tyres Maxy, who he talked 871 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: about after the game. He said, quote, I talked to him, 872 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: and he said he'd see me at practice Tuesday. I said, 873 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure we're practicing Tuesday, but I'll be there 874 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: me and you Man, I'll see you there. Nick. Nurse 875 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: is just funny. So they got a unit. I know 876 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: you were there on Sunday versus a Fortress. 877 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: It was a super entertaining game. I'll be honest. 878 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: I went with the lowest of expectations for us for 879 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: a Hawks Sixers game on a Sunday at six o'clock, 880 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: but it was really entertaining. 881 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: You know. 882 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: It sucked that Max he didn't play, for sure. 883 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: Crazy no call at the end of the game though, 884 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: that the Hawks got away with I believe a backcourt violation. 885 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: That's such a weird thing. 886 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: That to me is though, And if you didn't see it, 887 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: it's like they got inbound the ball and they're in 888 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: the front court and the kil Alexander Walker seems to 889 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: get the ball in the front court and then obviously 890 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: takes it into the back court and Nurse and the 891 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: Sixers are like, what the hell that's over and back? 892 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: You can't do that? And what they couldn't look at 893 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: it was that the problem too, because I don't know 894 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 3: it was. 895 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: Just it's one of these strange ones where I'm not 896 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: really even sure the rules on that, but I thought 897 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't over and back. But it's this whole thing 898 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: of like, when you have the ball, is that what 899 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: you're going to say? Sort, No, it's too subjective, is 900 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: the thing. 901 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: It's because if your momentum is taking you into the backcourt, 902 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 3: they don't call it. That seems like way too much 903 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 3: referee influence there. It should be if you catch the 904 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: ball with the foot, Yeah, front court, it's a backcourt myolimation. 905 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: It happened in the playoffs last year. Jalen Brunson I 906 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 3: think was the guy. But it's very weird because he 907 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: caught the ball in the front court. Yeah, but he 908 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: was running towards the back court, so like that counts. 909 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: It shouldn't be, Like, no, that was a weird one. 910 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 911 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 3: Dominicqu Wilkins was confused. He's like, no, that's a backcourt violation. 912 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 3: Rath Fund was like, no, it's the momentum, and. 913 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: Then Nikiel sort of almost like purposely it looked like 914 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: tries to bobble it even when he goes into the 915 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: back court to make it books like, well, I didn't 916 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: have it even though he did catch it. But anyway, 917 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: entertaining game. Paul George on fire vj edgecom I thought 918 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: was really good for stretchers. Embiid, Yeah, not his best, 919 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: but these are the type of games where he doesn't 920 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: even a good game. You look up, he's got twenty 921 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: two and fourteen. They were getting pissed off with Embiid. 922 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: They'll throw in his elbows, poor a coongu one in 923 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: the face. Jill Johnson's like, that's a second time you've 924 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: done that. Man, It's not throwing your elbows like crazy. 925 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: I think he did get a flagman for that in 926 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: the end after they looked at it. 927 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: But and B likes doing that. I get it. Hey, 928 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: it was just good to see him on the floor. 929 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 2: But he doesn't have the lift. We all know that. 930 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 2: Ian Jay Huff on Friday with the Indiana Pacers blocked 931 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: him twice. He just blocked his jump shot, so he's like, 932 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: I know you're not going buy me, man, I can 933 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 2: block your shot. So he is not the same guy. 934 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 2: But as you said, as long as there's a guy 935 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 2: to catch the ball at the elbow, it just helps 936 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: Tyres Maxey because he can't make shots, and he splashed 937 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 2: a couple of threes, so he looked his best. Whether 938 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: or not that holds on, you know, we had the debate, 939 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 2: is Joel and Be going to play more games from 940 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: this point on? Or will Lebron James playing more games 941 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 2: from this point on? Good sign and beat his playing 942 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 2: basketball and PG, you know, also playing basketball together. 943 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was fitting. On the very same 944 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: weekend that Wake Up dead Man dropped on Netflix, both 945 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,959 Speaker 3: Embid and Paul George played two straight games these dead 946 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 3: Men woke up. Zero dunks between these guys so far 947 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: this season. Wow, kind of amazing. That's amazing. 948 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, Embiid, you canna have a dunk? He can't get 949 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 4: he can't really jump. Yeah, so the jumper is on, 950 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 4: like that's when. That's why he had a good game. 951 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 4: His jumper was on. His free throws were on. 952 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 3: We say jumper, by the way, he doesn't jump exactly. 953 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 3: The bigger concern for Embiid is he can't move onto 954 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 3: the defensive end, so when the ball is really moving, 955 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: he can kind of get lost out there. You see 956 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 3: the same thing. I think with Paul George playing against 957 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 3: the Hawks, he was on fire. He banked in a 958 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: three pointer at one point. He was hitting some tough 959 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: shots and when it came down to can you beat 960 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 3: this guy off the dribble, he couldn't beat that guy 961 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 3: off the dribble. But in a weekend where they didn't 962 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: have Maxi, they needed anybody to be scoring, and both 963 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 3: these guys were able to fill it up. But it 964 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 3: just seems to be like more of a high risk, 965 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 3: high reward with these guys. If they're hitting, they're gonna 966 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 3: play well because they can get to their jumpers because 967 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 3: of the size advantage they have over whoever they're going 968 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 3: to be playing. But the explosiveness it ain't there. But 969 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: you're happy to see him playing like that's the big thing. 970 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 3: They're signed for years after this, so they're out on 971 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 3: the court. 972 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say I was shocked by how many tyres 973 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: Maxi jerseys I was seeing out at the Fortress. 974 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was noticing it. I was like, wow, there's 975 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 3: a lot of Maxi jerseys here. 976 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: I didn't know he was that popular in terms of 977 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: people rock in the Jersey. So that was cool, but 978 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately didn't get to see him no, so it as 979 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: a bummer. My weekend winner goes to the kids are 980 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: all right. And I am not talking about the twenty 981 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: ten OSCAR nominated film with Anette Benning, Julianne Moore, and 982 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo. Of course, No, though a good movie, I agree. 983 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the twenty twenty five draft class rookies. 984 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: A lot of them on Sunday had really good performances. 985 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: Start with Kanka Nipple. Yeah, himself a weekend man. He 986 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: scored twenty nine points, had four boards, three assists in 987 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: forty four minutes during Sunday's win over the Cavaliers one nineteen, 988 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: one to eleven. Great game from him. He had Lonzo 989 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: Ball dropping his head and shaking his head like multiple 990 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: times after he scored. Obviously, I don't know what to 991 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: do with this kid. He's getting to his spot or 992 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: blowing by me. And that was Canipple's second straight strong performance, 993 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: after he scored a season high thirty three in a 994 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: loss to Chicago on Friday night. So over the weekend, 995 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: Canipple averaged thirty one points per game and six assists, 996 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: and he hasn't missed a free throw since like Thanksgiving, 997 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 1: the three balls falling. 998 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 3: God, he's good. We've talked about him already he's legit. 999 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 3: I think he's their best player. 1000 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 2: I agree, I think he is. 1001 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Brandon had a huge shot he did against 1002 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 3: the Cavaliers, but he was like, what, twenty eight points 1003 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 3: on twenty three shots. He goes through some real cold 1004 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 3: stretches where it looks like he can't generate a good 1005 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 3: look and just has to kind of get lucky. I mean, 1006 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 3: he said Paul George is his favorite player of all time, 1007 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 3: and he plays exactly like Paul George. But Canipple, he 1008 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 3: just does everything. Yep, yep. So he was. 1009 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: He was awesome, so good. Jeremiah Fear another rookie I 1010 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: thought played great on Sunday. And this kid's nineteen years 1011 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: old and he's playing point guard in the NBA. He 1012 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: was good against the Bulls. He was you know, we 1013 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: know he's shifty, strong ball handling. It's tough not to 1014 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: see like some Kyrie in him with his handle. 1015 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 3: It is tight. And he was awesome. 1016 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: He was putting everybody on skates, every white guy, at 1017 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: least Zach Collins, Kevin Herder for sure. Boozellis got a 1018 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: taste of it. He's fast. Those are bigger guys too, 1019 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: so that's a tough guard for him once he got 1020 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: matched up onto them or they got matched up onto him. 1021 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: But eighteen points in the fourth quarter, excuse me, scored 1022 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: assistant on eighteen points in the fourth quarter for Jeremiah Fears. 1023 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: Homecoming game for Jeremiah. Yeah right, and he destroyed. Yeah. 1024 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 3: He had the family in attendance there, so it's nice. 1025 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 3: So he was good. And then already talked about VJ. Edgecomb. 1026 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: I thought he was carried the Sixers for stretches in 1027 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: that game on Sunday versus the Hawks, he had twenty 1028 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: six points. And then Atlanta's own Newell. He played well 1029 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: for the Hawks on Sunday. Now he doesn't play as 1030 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 1: much as these other guys on top. Talking about really 1031 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: good energy boost for Quinn Snyder off the bench, he 1032 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: had nine to four and two. Again limited minutes, but 1033 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: if you're watching Hawks games, he's playing here a little 1034 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: bit more. He's actually now getting some shifts. Over the 1035 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: last four or five games, he's averaging like fifteen or 1036 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: sixteen minutes per game, and he's chipping in like ten 1037 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: points per game. 1038 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 3: The guy's got some hops. 1039 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 1: To him and he's just all energy, hitting the odd 1040 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: three and he's just getting a little opportunity. So just 1041 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: a little love for him because he didn't see much 1042 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: from him early in the season. 1043 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 3: It wasn't playing a lot. 1044 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels like the same vibes as Colin Murray 1045 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: Boyles can do for the Raptors in that same light. Yeah, 1046 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: watching Derek Queen as well, just to give him love. 1047 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: Just he's through that lle oop to Trey Murphy for 1048 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: that reverse elliop Now it's back to back games. He 1049 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 2: finds Trey Murphy on these baseline cuts and they're pretty stuff. 1050 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: So Zion Wimson coming off the bench, Yeah for the 1051 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: Peals in that gameck bench boy. 1052 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 3: Yes he was Gonpool coming off the bench obviously, but yeah, yeah. 1053 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,479 Speaker 1: Some Pelicans have five wins this season. They swept the Bulls. Yep, 1054 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: two against the Bulls. It's one more winner to NBC. 1055 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: Do you guys see this? They're dropping the coast to 1056 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: coast format for the final NBA telecast of the month here, okay, 1057 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: because you know they were doing like the whole East coast, 1058 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: West Coast is on Peacock or NBC and then flipped 1059 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 1: when you got over to the West coast. They announced 1060 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: Saturday that it's switching to standard double headers for AT 1061 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: to start at eight o'clock and ten thirty pm Eastern 1062 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: because they were starting these l late games at like 1063 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock to eleven. 1064 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1065 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's just for the remaining of the month, 1066 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: we get true double headers on NBC starting a little 1067 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: bit earlier. Like I said, now, the reason I saw 1068 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: Sports Media Watch said it's unlikely they're going to switch 1069 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: away from this, like altogether, the coast to coast format, 1070 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: because they're really only doing this because the Tonight Show 1071 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: and Late Night are typically in reruns here at the 1072 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: end of the year. So they're like, I don't care, 1073 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: it's just put the games on the actual broadcast. But anyway, 1074 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: it's good things starting a little bit earlier. Eleven o'clock 1075 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: very very late for us. Yeah, it's too late, it is. 1076 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I would love to know how many people on 1077 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: the East Coast were watching games. I want to see 1078 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 2: the ratings, and I guess that was a part of it. 1079 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: They'll try it out here, they'll test it out. Maybe 1080 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: it'll do better. All right, let's do a round of 1081 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: NBA weekend losersk. 1082 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 3: Riddle me this, Okay, which is worse losing to the 1083 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 3: Nets by forty five, trailing by thirty to the Nets 1084 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 3: after three quarters, giving the Nets their first thirty point 1085 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 3: lead of the season, or scoring zero points in the 1086 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 3: last seven minutes of a basketball game. WHOA, those are 1087 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 3: tough actually options, but they're all bad. 1088 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: I go one or three? Actually, I guess I just 1089 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: go one to keep it simple. 1090 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 3: Just losing losing forty five to the Nets. The Bucks 1091 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 3: did all of these things. Of course, the Brooklyn Nets 1092 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 3: currently ranked twenty fifth in offense. They had nine players 1093 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 3: in double digits yesterday against Milwaukee nineteen threes, which led 1094 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 3: to a lot of blowbys on the closeouts. It's like 1095 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 3: the Nets were hitting them so then the Bucks finally 1096 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 3: started challenging on them, and then it was an easy 1097 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: runway to the rim. Thirty three assists on forty five 1098 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 3: makes for Brooklyn. I think they must have back cut 1099 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 3: the Bucks one hundred times and this game. This is 1100 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: one of the worst losses of the season. I thought 1101 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 3: the Bucks losing to the Nets, how badly they did, 1102 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 3: Like you lost to the Wizards not too long ago, 1103 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: you lost by one, right, it happens, bad loss. Losing 1104 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 3: by forty five, this was just disgusting. I went back 1105 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 3: and watched the entire fourth quarter today. Saw Cole Anthony 1106 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 3: throw an alley loop that just hit glass. Saw Jericho 1107 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 3: Simms try and take a guy off the dribble from 1108 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 3: the top of the key, and somehow he threw the 1109 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 3: goal the ball between the defender's legs and the defender 1110 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 3: was standing at the free throw line, so he threw 1111 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 3: the ball like ten feet ahead of him trying to 1112 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 3: dribble on a dribble drive wasn't a turn over, the 1113 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 3: off of went off of a nets leg. It was really, 1114 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: really bad. This also comes on the heels of a 1115 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 3: Chris Haynes report that Yannis's next team he wants son, 1116 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 3: he wants a big market, and he wants to compete 1117 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 3: for a championship. These are three things that are not 1118 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 3: happening in Milwaukee. So I thought, bad weekend for the Bucks, 1119 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 3: and it looked like maybe they were going to have 1120 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 3: a little bit of a spark here because they beat 1121 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 3: the Celtics on Thursday. Looked pretty good doing it. You know, 1122 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 3: Kuzmo was incredible in that game, and then in this one, 1123 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 3: it was just like Gary Trent Junior, can you save us? 1124 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 3: Gary can't save you? This was this was bad? And 1125 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 3: how does tas Malus feel about the Milwaukee. 1126 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 2: I just want to know which Chris Haynes report I 1127 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 2: missed because there was another one that he said. Y 1128 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 2: just he's he's keeping it internal. Right. It feels like 1129 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: the reports changed depending on what's going on with the Bucks. Literally, 1130 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: like when you win the one, Yeah, the one part 1131 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 2: of this one. I think it was in between the 1132 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 2: Boston win and it was he's keeping it internal. Now 1133 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: he's he's got his outlook on what's going on. But 1134 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: it feels like it changes. Yeah, so even me. 1135 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, keeping what is he keeping it? Turtle? You can't 1136 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 3: make a trade request? That fine? 1137 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, to go from as we were saying after 1138 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 2: the the whole thing happened, and then Doc Rivers and 1139 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: everybody were saying, we got four days off, we're gonna 1140 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: have a couple of good practices. We're going to see 1141 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 2: how it goes. Then they go beat the Boston Celtics 1142 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 2: and then they come out like this. That's why I'm 1143 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 2: if I'm looking at Yannis's situation, I see this. If 1144 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 2: you know, losing by ten or twelve to Brooklyn would 1145 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 2: be despicable, but at least it'd be like, Okay, we 1146 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: got hope once I come back. This is this is 1147 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 2: entirely different. This was an effort thing. This was just 1148 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: the bench of the of the Brooklyn Nets coming out 1149 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: and destroying the Bucks really really badly. So that's just 1150 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 2: like a up and down locker room. We ain't cutting 1151 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: it here. So yeah, I think that amplifies Jannis's desire 1152 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: to leave at some point. 1153 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: And this is the unofficial start to trade season here 1154 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: December fifteenth. There's like eighty plus more guys that can 1155 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: now actually be traded, so it's you know, basically ninety 1156 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 1: percent of the league at this point could be traded. 1157 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, those those. 1158 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: Trade rooms are only going to get louder here, you 1159 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: would think from from the Bucks or Giannis and all that. 1160 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: Unless he just comes out and says, no, I am 1161 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: not asking for a trade this season. 1162 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 3: Don't worry. 1163 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to come back and we'll make it work 1164 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: and then we just do this all over again in 1165 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: the summer. But yeah, I don't. I mean, he's not 1166 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: looking at this team. It can't be going. If the 1167 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: whole thing is just to win another title and that 1168 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: is priority number one, it's not going to be here. 1169 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: I just don't think it is. And I know they 1170 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: got the one pick that you say they could dangle 1171 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: out there, there's gonna be no real difference maker in 1172 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: my mind that will get them up into the championship 1173 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: contender status with just that pick and a guy or 1174 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 1: two there. 1175 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 2: So it sure seems like he wants the Knicks. The 1176 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: question is what the Knicks? Do you want to join 1177 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 2: them now if that's possible, or in the offseason after 1178 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 2: two things happened. One you gave it one more shot 1179 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 2: with your team because you said preseason, I'm doing this, 1180 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 2: I'm loyal to this team. I'm staying here for one 1181 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: more year. I will not demand a request during the season. 1182 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 2: And then the second thing is do you join the 1183 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 2: next team that didn't win to help them be that boost? 1184 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 3: Or is that what the next win he's going to 1185 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 3: join them, and like Kevin's. 1186 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: Go to join another team, he's going to join another Yeah, 1187 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: well that's why he's opening it up. Two of the 1188 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: three things everybody wants when they get traded, that's right, 1189 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: a chance to win a title. I wanted you say, 1190 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: chance to win a title, big market, big market, and 1191 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 1: some sunshine, some beautiful nice weather. 1192 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, man, we'll see. Unfortunately it's cold in 1193 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 3: Atlanta right now. Can't come here. 1194 00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you say the next part of it too, Like, 1195 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: let's be honest, like, would the Knicks right now want 1196 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: to actually like trade for you, honest like this very minute, 1197 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: and obviously would be breaking up your team, to be 1198 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: completely changing your team because some key pieces have to 1199 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: go out. But they're good and they're looking at the 1200 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: landscape going we could get to the finals, and I'm 1201 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: with you, it's almost like they're looking at like, now, 1202 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: let's just play this year out, see how we do 1203 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: make the finals, maybe not whatever, and then we'll try 1204 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: and trade for you once that makes the most sense. 1205 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 2: And how does Brunson and Yannis play together? I think 1206 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 2: that's an interesting thing because just the Brunson, I know, 1207 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: he's giving up the ball more this season, he's handling 1208 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: it less, he's got more catch and shoots, and that's 1209 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: why the Knicks are up in drives and passes and 1210 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 2: catch and shoots overall. But it is a little bit 1211 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 2: more like Dame and Giannis playing together. Now. He would 1212 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 2: give that a shot, of course, and I'm sure Brunson 1213 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 2: would give that a shot, and Brunson is on a 1214 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 2: whole other level than Dame was when Giannis played with him. Yeah, 1215 00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 2: but that that cohesiveness is is an interesting part of it. 1216 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 2: But I guess that's the team he wants to play for. 1217 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's how much does he put his thumb on 1218 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: the scale here, Yannis of like, you could trade me 1219 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: to better teams to get you a better package back 1220 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: you being the Bucks. But him saying to that team 1221 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: the trades from him like, I ain't gonna be here 1222 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: all that long, so be careful if he really wants 1223 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: to get to medicine square in the next one. 1224 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 2: Still, I still believe in the loyalists that Yannis is 1225 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: to the Bucks and he says to Horst, you gotta 1226 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 2: pick you do that. I'm giving you one more shot, 1227 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 2: which is yeah, I hear what you're saying, and that 1228 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 2: they're still going to be a level below Nick even 1229 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 2: Magic probably. 1230 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 3: Pistons. 1231 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, here we are, here, we are. We 1232 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 2: got two more months to talk about it. 1233 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 3: That's right. Who do you have for a loser of 1234 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 3: the weekend tests? 1235 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a bit of a geek, and I 1236 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 2: call this the Cleveland half a Leear's here in the 1237 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: document because it feels like they are half of what 1238 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 2: they were last year. It does not feel like they 1239 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 2: are themselves. It's so strange. They had five days off 1240 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 2: before their game against the Washington Wizards on Friday, the 1241 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 2: Washington Wizards, and I was watching that game as the 1242 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 2: Wizards got up seventeen, and I thought, WHOA, this game 1243 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 2: is over and this Cleveland Cavaliers team just literally isn't cohesive. 1244 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: They're just not together. Who are they? And we can 1245 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: say there's injuries, yeah, yeah, at whatever. They got down 1246 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 2: seventeen to the Washington Wizards, and they needed twenty four 1247 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 2: from Donovan Mitchell in the fourth to get them to ot. 1248 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 2: Bob Carrington was frickin' awesome for the Washington Wizards. So 1249 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 2: the Cavs got themselves there and they won it, and 1250 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: a win is a win yet whatever, but they didn't 1251 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 2: feel right. They just did not feel right. Evan Mobley 1252 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 2: was literally like missing shots inside. He looked like he 1253 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 2: threw up an airball. It just didn't even those numbers 1254 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: are there. He just doesn't look like who he was. 1255 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 2: And then he goes down with an injury. He's got 1256 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 2: a cash strain he's out two to four weeks. So 1257 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 2: then they play Charlotte on Sunday. Play that tape back. 1258 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 2: Same thing happened down seventeen again, Jared Allen back after 1259 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: a couple weeks off. He got outplayed by Ryan Calkbrenner. 1260 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know I would say Ryan Calkbrenner this many 1261 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 2: times this season, but that guy's outplaying Jared Allen. I 1262 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: thought in this game, despite Miles bridge Is shooting seven 1263 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,959 Speaker 2: for nineteen and Brandon Miller shooting eight for twenty three, 1264 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 2: the Charlotte Hornets won this frickin' game after a miracle 1265 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 2: sort of play that Lonzo Ball got it to Jayalen 1266 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 2: Tyson underneath, and then Brandon Miller hit a three right 1267 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 2: in the face of Darius Garland. That was a great 1268 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 2: little Garland trying to get a little push off thing. Yeah, 1269 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 2: it was a flop. You can't call that. So Brandon 1270 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 2: Miller three. And then they scored zero points in OT 1271 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: against the Charlotte Hornets, So that's why they lose. So 1272 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 2: this team doesn't look like who they were. I know 1273 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: you said it a couple of weeks ago. Seats and 1274 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 2: now I do think injuries do play a part. I 1275 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 2: do think Max Shrew's not playing as their sort of 1276 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 2: connector has been important just to be there to connect 1277 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 2: their back court in the front court. And I know 1278 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 2: Darius Garland has been out and he's hobbling around on 1279 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 2: that toe injury, and Sam Merril has a hand injury, 1280 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: and now Mobley is out, and I just don't see 1281 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 2: what happens in the near future. Again, I think Strews 1282 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 2: has to come in and just take DeAndre Hunter's job 1283 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 2: in the starting lineup. Kenny africans and believes in DeAndre Hunter. 1284 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't get it at all. 1285 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 2: He's turning into that Hawks player pre coming off the 1286 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 2: bench for last season where he was awesome and that's 1287 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 2: why the Cavs winn and got him. But yeah, there 1288 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 2: is some sort of gap in who they are together, 1289 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 2: Like Donovan Mitchell's an All Star, you could literally have 1290 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 2: some MVP votes for him, but they're just not together. 1291 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 2: And watching Darius Garland run into Jared Allen on that 1292 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 2: pick that was like the Cavs season in one play, 1293 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 2: like yeah, we can score, we can do good things, 1294 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 2: but we can't get it. And so this is a weird, 1295 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: weird time for them. If everybody comes back, sure they 1296 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 2: could change, but it's hard to see that right now. 1297 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 3: You have thoughts on the Calves here too. Yeah, they're toasts. 1298 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 3: Time to blow it up, like it's time to split 1299 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 3: up Garland and Mitchell. I think first and foremost, I 1300 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 3: think their problems are pretty easy to diagnose. The injuries 1301 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 3: are definitely a concern. Garland is like hobbling around out there. 1302 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 3: People are asking him about his tone. He won't even 1303 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 3: talk about it, so you know it's bothering him and 1304 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 3: it's clearly affecting him mobily. Now out with a calf strain, 1305 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 3: is that right? Like you're saying no struse yet this season. 1306 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 3: I guess he just got his walking boot off, so 1307 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 3: probably still a little time till he comes back. Jared 1308 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 3: Allen's been banged up. All of their role guys have 1309 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 3: been banged up. They've had more injuries this season than 1310 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 3: they had last season. That's hurting them. But the main 1311 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 3: problem with the Calves is that they are soft on 1312 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 3: the defensive end. They don't bring a lot of like 1313 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 3: physicality on that side, a lot of intensity, and on 1314 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 3: the offensive side, they're a jump shooting team that can't 1315 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,439 Speaker 3: shoot their first and three point attempts this season third 1316 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 3: and three point rate. That's basically the same as last year. 1317 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 3: Last year they were fourth and three point percentage. This 1318 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 3: year they're twenty eighth and three point percentage. They have 1319 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 3: no fallback. It's Donovan Mitchell, please save us. Sometimes he can, 1320 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 3: sometimes he can't. But you saw it there in overtime 1321 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 3: over ten from the field, Calves getting booed at home 1322 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 3: and postgame. Both Mitchell and Garland are like, yeah, we 1323 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 3: should be getting booed. We're not giving the fans anything 1324 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 3: to cheer for. So they gave it a good run. 1325 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 3: You know, they had the best record in the league 1326 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 3: last year, in the Eastern Conference at least, but they've 1327 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 3: melted down in the playoffs two times, partially because of injuries, 1328 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 3: but partially because sometimes the lights are too bright, like 1329 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 3: this key light right here, Sometimes the lights are too right. 1330 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 3: And I think that we have just seen the Calves 1331 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 3: reach their logical end here. Kept it together, kept the consistency, 1332 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 3: kept the chemistry, the continuity, all these different sea words, 1333 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 3: but it just doesn't cut it for the Cleveland Cavaliers. 1334 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, a team has never needed a guy more like 1335 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: a Josh art or even a jail and sub or 1336 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: a careuse. So like those type of guys everybody knows 1337 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Like the guys that actually bring 1338 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: that energy, a little bit of an attitude, can maybe 1339 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 1: hit a shot to the cats need that. They need that, 1340 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: and that to me, if they make a trade here 1341 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: and if it's splitting up either one of their bigs 1342 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: or one of their guards, make sure that type of 1343 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: guy's coming back in the mix, because man, they could 1344 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: use it. I was ready to give them a loser 1345 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 1: of the weekend after the win on Friday night. Yeah, 1346 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: because it took forty eight from Donovan Mitchell and we 1347 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: keep talking about it's like he has to save them. 1348 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: That's not a recipe for playoff success. I mean we've 1349 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: seen this time and time again with Donovan Mitchell. Give 1350 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: him some help and yeah, it's not good. They're fifteen 1351 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: and twelve, I think now down pretty low in the 1352 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference standings. 1353 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 3: Still a ton of time left to get back up. 1354 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 1: But I think they right now as we get into 1355 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: trade season, they have to be looking at move to 1356 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: shake it up and just switch it up and give 1357 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 1: themselves like just new life here, I think, and. 1358 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 3: I think they're a second Apron team, isn't that right? Well, 1359 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 3: it makes things pretty complicated. And they traded a ton 1360 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 3: of stuff to get Donovan Mitchell in the first place, 1361 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 3: and then to bring in DeAndre Hunter, they traded in 1362 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 3: even more stuff, So a lot of it is going 1363 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 3: to have to be internal. But man, they just need 1364 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 3: like any dickhead, they need somebody. It's just a jerk. 1365 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 3: They're saying it here in the stream. Team they need 1366 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 3: like literally a Dylan Brooks like character, somebody who wants 1367 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 3: to fight somebody every single night. 1368 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, And last year they were able to 1369 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 2: do that with the backcourt of Mitchell and Garland and 1370 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 2: then Alan and Mobley in the front court with literally 1371 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 2: as Max Strus was the guy who was a big 1372 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 2: part of that. Is it just the end of the 1373 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell era here in Cleveland, like it was the 1374 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 2: end of the Donovan Mitchell era in Utah? Like he 1375 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 2: has been there now this is season number four for him? 1376 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 2: Is it just him not being able to lead? See? 1377 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 2: I don't buy that, because I feel like he is 1378 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 2: trying to do his thing, But as far as everybody 1379 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 2: else goes, they are not there. And that's why internally, 1380 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 2: it has to comment from somebody who just comes out 1381 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 2: plays harder because they don't have the ability to trade 1382 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 2: for a lot of guys. It could be Max Shrews. Again. 1383 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 2: I know he's not the incredible defender that you might 1384 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 2: think of, but he's better than DeAndre Hunter, who's literally 1385 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 2: lacking and literally can't shoot the ball. And I don't 1386 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 2: know why right now. Surprise, surprise, Well, he's been on 1387 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 2: a cold streak, yeah, this whole season. Really, he's got 1388 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 2: to come off the bench. We've seen his his recipe 1389 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Hawks. This is what he needs to be. 1390 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 2: He needs to come off the bench and be that 1391 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 2: primary guy, and that's why they need to yank him. 1392 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson really believes in him and calls it upon 1393 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 2: himself to get DeAndre Hunter different types of looks. But 1394 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I just don't get it really. 1395 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 2: And Max Shrew's yeah, the off season surgery. I don't 1396 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 2: know if he's coming back anytime soon. He's got that 1397 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: old Jones fracture in his left foot. It seems like 1398 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 2: it's taking a while. And also, you know, you can 1399 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 2: keep on looking. But guys like Jalen Tyson those guys 1400 01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 2: fight harder out there, so it ain't happening right now. 1401 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to give a mini loser of the weekend 1402 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: to every Golden State Warriors player not named Steph Curry 1403 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: over the weekend, Like you already alluded to it when 1404 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: you were talking about the Wolves game, But Steph did 1405 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: return from injury over the weekend. He had thirty nine 1406 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: on Friday night they lost, followed up with forty eight 1407 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday night in Portland they lost. 1408 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 3: So Steph hit like thirty shots this weekend. 1409 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: And eighteen of them were threes and the team is 1410 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: going oh to two over the weekend. Wasn't a lot 1411 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: of help on the defensive end or from other guys. 1412 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Draymond Green I thought was brutal in the second half 1413 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: versus the Blazers on Sunday. Yeah, pretty good first half, 1414 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: but oh my god, turnover city with this guy against 1415 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the Blazers. And Jimmy Butler has done one of his classics, 1416 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: sort of December disappearing acts here. It's like he is 1417 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: he sort of don't even notice that he's out there 1418 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: at times, and that's not good for a guy that 1419 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: gets paid what he gets paid. So just disappointing that 1420 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: you get two huge monster Steph performances and they both 1421 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: come in losses. 1422 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 3: Gotta win one of those two. They're under five hundred 1423 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 3: right now, and I think a big part of it 1424 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 3: is Draymond has taken a step back, like he still 1425 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 3: can bring it defensively, but they are accommodating him on 1426 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 3: the offensive end, and at times it feels like he's 1427 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 3: a bit of an anchor for Steph Curry. And then 1428 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 3: Jimmy just is coasting right now. I think he was 1429 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 3: like nine for twenty two over the weekend, thirty one 1430 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 3: points total. Like this is when you need Jimmy Butler. 1431 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 3: When things are going poorly for your team. You need 1432 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 3: somebody besides Steph to kind of do anything out there 1433 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 3: and take offense at the way you're playing. 1434 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but my loser the weekend is going to go 1435 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: to the Lakers Suns officiating, and I'd love to get yours. 1436 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Let me just set the scene here. Phoenix was down 1437 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: twenty with like under eight minutes to go in the 1438 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: game last night, but then suddenly Claude their way back, 1439 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: took the lead one fourteen, one thirteen with about twelve 1440 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 1: seconds to go with Dylan Brooks hitting a three pointer 1441 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: over Lebron. Lebron made contact with Dylan Brooks game the 1442 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: old love love tap to the chest, probably clipped him 1443 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: on the side. There are the legs too. You won't 1444 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 1: believe this. That pissed Dylan Brooks off. And on the 1445 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: way back down the floor, you know he's drawn with Lebron. 1446 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Bumps Lebron. Okay, we got a replay review this. They 1447 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 1: look at it and they decide which took forever by 1448 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the way, Oh my god, they decided. Okay, Brooks, that's 1449 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: a that's a second tech. That's a technical foul. That's 1450 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: your second tech of the game because he got into 1451 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: it earlier and that was an ejection. But nothing actually 1452 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: on the call of the Lebron part of it all. 1453 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 1: That's why Dylan Brooks was pretty pissed. We'll start there. 1454 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Did you think it warranted a foul call on Lebron? 1455 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. He tried, No, he tried. Dylan Brooks tried 1456 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 2: to draw a foul by kicking out left. What's happening 1457 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: too much in the NBA. It is an issue with 1458 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 2: guys shooting three point shots, putting their feet down and 1459 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 2: at the same time I know the front office or 1460 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 2: the the NBA is saying, we need to take care 1461 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 2: of these players and not have this the zone where 1462 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 2: they can't land. I get it, but it's it's gone 1463 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 2: too far. 1464 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 3: And so what about the tap? The tap? 1465 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 2: It's just a tap, Okay, I was okay with it. 1466 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 3: Give him a tap on. 1467 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 1: The chest, that's what he did. You can see it 1468 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: from the other angle. You have to see the other camrangle. 1469 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 2: See that one. 1470 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 3: I thought it was a foul. Yeah, I mean, Lebron 1471 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 3: definitely tries to like duck out of the way. They 1472 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 3: try to avoid Dylan Brooks, but he gets them in 1473 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 3: the ribs. 1474 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: More importantly, that tech gave the Lakers a free throw attempt. 1475 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: Lebron takes it. Lebron is shooting like sixty. 1476 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 3: I know it's Lebron. He's scored more points than anyone 1477 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 3: in history. He misses it, Okay, ball, don't lie. I guess. 1478 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: On the next play, Lebron gets fouled on a three 1479 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: point attempt by Devin Booker with about four seconds to go. 1480 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 3: Let's call it that. 1481 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: Now, this one where he does the reach in and 1482 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Lebron's going up. What do you think of this one? 1483 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 2: Absolutely not a foul. I think it's going too far. 1484 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 2: It's going too far with how they're calling and trying 1485 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 2: to protect three point shots. I think it's gonna be 1486 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: a point of emphasis for all officials to scale it 1487 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 2: back a little bit. We saw it in the NBA 1488 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,719 Speaker 2: Cup where Shay was kicking his legs out as well. 1489 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 2: It's like he would have fell down anyways. It doesn't 1490 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 2: matter if somebody sort of touched him. It's just gone 1491 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 2: too far. The pendulum has to swing back a little bit. 1492 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 3: If it wasn't a foul on Lebron, it shouldn't have 1493 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 3: been a foul on Booker. There were two similar I mean, 1494 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 3: I think Booker said he fouled them, but like I said, 1495 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 3: I thought Lebron fouled Red Brooks as well. So to 1496 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 3: see those two calls go back to back like that 1497 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 3: was a little ridiculous. The grift is in for the Lakers, 1498 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 3: but Lebron was feeling guilty. He only went to a 1499 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 3: four of the one. Well, that's right, that's right. 1500 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Lebron didn't miss his first free so you're like, oh 1501 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: my god, here we go again. Made the final two 1502 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: and gave the Lakers the one to fifteen fourteen lead, 1503 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: and then there was a play at the end Grayson 1504 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: Allen sort of tried to step through and there's contact 1505 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: and all that. I didn't really have a problem with 1506 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,600 Speaker 1: that one whistle being sort of swallowed. Lebron sort of 1507 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: got a piece of it anyway. 1508 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 3: Weird ending. 1509 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Tyler ford Man not my favorite official head crew chief. 1510 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,720 Speaker 1: He's like he's more interested in reviewing plays than he 1511 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: is like actually getting the play call right because there's 1512 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of going over there. And the Lakers ended 1513 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: up shooting forty three free throws to Phoenix's twenty five. 1514 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: And the Lakers shoot a lot of free throws. They 1515 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: don't average forty three if that's like twenty plus more 1516 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 1: than their average, So it was a lot of free 1517 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: throws in this game. They don't like each other, these 1518 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: two teams too. Yeah, part of that's the Dylan Brooks 1519 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Lebron of at all. But not a great job here 1520 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 1: by theficiating Crow. I thought, well, I think Lebron could 1521 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 1: have even been ejected earlier. There was a skirmish between 1522 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: Lebron and Dylan Brooks where what it's like, Brooks maybe 1523 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 1: blocks Lebron shot the balls floating. 1524 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 3: In the air and he just smacks it. It hits Lebron. 1525 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Lebron is fired up. You don't see Lebron getting that 1526 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 3: bad all that often, but he was quite angry. And 1527 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 3: Tyler Ford and whoever this other referee was, I don't 1528 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: even remember which guy that was, both come over and 1529 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 3: like are trying to split him up, and Lebron is 1530 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,759 Speaker 3: pushing the referee out of the way. That's an injection 1531 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,679 Speaker 3: for every other player in the league. Basically, Yes, Yeah, 1532 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 3: they're kind of like Lebron a you're Lebron b you 1533 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,839 Speaker 3: never really get this mad. We're gonna let it slide. 1534 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 3: And then when you let it slide, things like this 1535 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 3: happen when it comes down to the important parts of 1536 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 3: the game. 1537 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the referee, I'm sure saying, I understand it's 1538 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 2: still in Brooks. He's annoying, don't get him that. Yeah, 1539 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 2: that rivalry is hilarious. The Phoenix Suns are super fun. 1540 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 2: They seem like this underdog team that can come back 1541 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter at all times. And they did 1542 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 2: it again and La was fighting too that twenty four 1543 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,759 Speaker 2: offensive rebounds in this game, just going to get extra possession. 1544 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Shout out to Jared Vanderbilt. He's back in the rotation. 1545 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 2: Lebron had a chase down block. It was it was 1546 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 2: pretty fun. 1547 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Smart took a weird shot near the end and 1548 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 1: nearly cost them the game. 1549 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,639 Speaker 3: The Lakers did this thing. 1550 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 1: They got up big at the end, like in the fourth, 1551 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: and then they like they went to like preventative offense 1552 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 1: way too early and it started biting them in the ass. 1553 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,480 Speaker 3: But then the one time they should have just slowed. 1554 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Down held on the pull because Smart like decided to 1555 01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 1: try like a like finger roll like floater on a 1556 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 1: fast break situation, which basically the shot clock in the 1557 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 1: game clock was almost identical, like he really should have 1558 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: held onto it got blocked, and that's you know, allowed 1559 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 1: the Suns to even get that shot and get us 1560 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 1: into the replay reviews and all that chaotic ending. 1561 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Man Marcus Smart got the start and this one, and 1562 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 3: he almost completely gave it away at the end because 1563 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 3: the Lakers were up twenty. He had a wide open 1564 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 3: fast break. Donkey just threw the ball over his head 1565 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 3: to whoever was traded. 1566 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what a dumb play, like instant twelve Ozero 1567 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 5: run for the Sun basically after that, and then of course, 1568 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 5: the finger roll shot would literally just dribble the ball. 1569 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,680 Speaker 3: Get filed, pushoot a free throw. Yeah. 1570 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 2: Weird. 1571 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: Uh well, bye lit bye of the night. Actually today 1572 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: it's called Ho Boy of the Night. Hell well yeah, 1573 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: because we have a sponsor today Andrew ho two six 1574 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 1: nine six Andrew in the in the stream team live 1575 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: on YouTube before the show went live, He's like, I 1576 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: would love to sponsor whoa boy? But can we please 1577 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: call it ho boy for my last name? 1578 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 3: There? We absolutely can. Steph Curry is your a Hoe 1579 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 3: of the night. 1580 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Poured in a game high forty eight points in a 1581 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: losing effort, twelve three pointers made, sixteen to twenty six 1582 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: from the field, team high three steals in thirty five minutes. 1583 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 3: There. This is by way of statitudes, Curry set an 1584 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 3: NBA record for most three pointers made in a loss 1585 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 3: with twelve. New record. 1586 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Great previous mark of eleven triples in defeat had been 1587 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 1: achieved six times. 1588 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 3: Curry had four of those. 1589 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so in a lot of games where Curry hits 1590 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,839 Speaker 1: a lot of threes and they do lose, but twelve 1591 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 1: never got into that mark in a loss. 1592 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1593 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 3: The stattitudes for that one pick up toy. Yeah, oh boy, 1594 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:45,839 Speaker 3: thank you Andrew. 1595 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get a oh boy, we should get a 1596 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 2: sandwich for that a po boy. Yeah. I don't know 1597 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 2: now I'm just rhyming things. Yeah, but why not? Why not? 1598 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Thank you? 1599 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 3: Want Drew Darius Garland Toeboy of the night. What about 1600 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 3: our friend Vernon the Mowboy. 1601 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 2: Of the night? 1602 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 3: Sure? 1603 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 2: Sure that dope boy. It's maybe a chubby guy or 1604 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,719 Speaker 2: maybe if it's a pizza sponsored how about crow Boy. 1605 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 3: Of the night? 1606 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: Crow? 1607 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1608 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Maybe like a hawk, like a bird? Uh is a 1609 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: bird player? 1610 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 3: Crow Boy of the night. Let's go to pick up 1611 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 3: where we're going. 1612 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't know why I went to the Clippers game 1613 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 2: hosting the Memphis Grizzlies. It's an odd pick because we 1614 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 2: got Houston Denver tonight. 1615 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you picked up? 1616 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure Celtics even Yeah, yeah, I wanted 1617 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 2: to go west, but I'm surprised I didn't go with Denver. 1618 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 2: Houston Denver. Maybe it wasn't on the board when I 1619 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 2: looked at it, but yeah, that then night schedule is Detroit, Boston, Toronto, Miami, Dallas, Utah, Houston, 1620 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 2: Denver and then the final one Memphis Clippers. The line 1621 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 2: has grown. When we did it yesterday, it was three 1622 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 2: and a half. Clippers were favored by it's now four 1623 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 2: and a half. 1624 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 3: Money interesting because I mean, James Harden is playing. I 1625 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,440 Speaker 3: know he was questionable. 1626 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 2: I think it's Josh sitting. I don't know. I don't 1627 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 2: know why the line has grown, but Trey and I 1628 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: feel comfortable taking the Memphis Grizzlies with those three and 1629 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 2: a half points skeets. You got the Clippers. I think 1630 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,639 Speaker 2: Clippers are going to do it. Oh oh, you're shaking 1631 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 2: your head already. 1632 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean no, I don't think the Clippers are gonna 1633 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 1: do it. I can't pick a game right right now. 1634 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:23,800 Speaker 1: It was five in a row. I was four and 1635 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 1: one to start this month. I had a great record 1636 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: overall on the season. I was feeling good. And here's 1637 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: now a five game slide, and I got the fucking 1638 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 1: Clippers now, and I hate the Clippers. And they got 1639 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 1: a win by four two, so they'll probably win by 1640 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,759 Speaker 1: three tonight. I'm calling it now, calling it now. Clippers 1641 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: win by two or three points tonight. 1642 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 3: Take the money line. Lock that in, locked out. Take 1643 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 3: the money line. That's right. 1644 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, things are going well for the Clippers. Lawrence Frank 1645 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 2: is meeting with season ticket holders. If I'm not mistaken today, 1646 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 2: he's having a meeting Monday, December fifteenth. Check in four 1647 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 2: fifteen to five fifteen location Court B. You can meet 1648 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 2: and talk with Lawrence Frank. I mean he's he's putting 1649 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 2: it on the table. He's not just saying I'm not highing. 1650 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 2: I ain't hiding for you fans. So maybe they win, 1651 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 2: but it is them coming back to Los Angeles after 1652 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 2: a long road trip. If I'm not missing that's true. 1653 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 3: They were not. They beat the Hawks. 1654 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: That was the only game they won on the road, 1655 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: I think here in Atlanta. Otherwise, that was the James 1656 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: Harden Magic City game. We talked about it. They say, 1657 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, get out of here. They went on one 1658 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 1: game and then they've lost. They I mean, they played 1659 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,640 Speaker 1: good teams, I think, but still. 1660 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 2: Okay, they were one and four on the trip. But 1661 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 2: this is their first game back. Yeah, they lost to Houston, Minnesota, 1662 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 2: Memphis and the Heat. 1663 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 3: Oh okay, revenge game here. 1664 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: But Piston Celtics on Peacock and Rockets Nuggets on Peacock. 1665 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 1: Those are two really good games. Raptors, Heat, MAVs, Jazz 1666 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 1: are the other ones in addition to Grizzlies Clippers. 1667 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 3: We'll be here to talk. 1668 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 1: About them tomorrow, but we will not be alone because 1669 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 1: this is fun. Former NBA All Star Michael Red is 1670 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: joining Tomorrow's No Dunks. We're going to get him on 1671 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,600 Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on the NBA Cup, thoughts on 1672 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 1: the early season, a whole bunch of stuff were gonna get. 1673 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 1: If you got a question from Michael Redd, let us know. 1674 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,719 Speaker 1: Drop it in the YouTube comments. 1675 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 2: Do it. 1676 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,640 Speaker 3: I said before, it's a great follow on x or 1677 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 3: on the social media. It's doing something. He's doing some 1678 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 3: YouTube work as well. Get his insight into the game. 1679 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: So get your questions in from Michael Redd, who will 1680 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 1: be joining us tomorrow on Tuesdays No Dunks. 1681 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 3: Should be cool. What perfect timing for him because when 1682 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 3: he played for the Bucks, they wore those Christmas jerseys. 1683 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,679 Speaker 3: That's right, so matches the studio very well. 1684 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, absolutely, And his name is Michael 1685 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 1: Red too, Yeah, Red and Green. 1686 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,919 Speaker 3: It was the colors of Christmas. 1687 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 1: So looking forward to that. But we'll that's tomorrow at 1688 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 1: tenne em Eastern. Hope to see a live here on 1689 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 1: YouTube till Dan Clipper bros. 1690 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1691 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 3: love you guys awesome. 1692 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 1: Before we go, I just remembered Andrew Hoe, in his 1693 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 1: sponsorship of WOA Boy, said, what do you think of 1694 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 1: John Cena's final match? 1695 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh, let's end the show with our thoughts on John 1696 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 2: Cen this match. We got an extra twenty minutes there. 1697 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 2: It's up to you. 1698 01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 4: You. 1699 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 2: I think you're the only. 1700 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 3: Watch it next morning. 1701 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it live because I respect the cup. Well, 1702 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 1: it's funny, he tapped out to Gunther. So a guy's 1703 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 1: whole career built on never giving up. Literally his one 1704 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: of his slogans, never give up. 1705 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 3: He gave up. He tapped, and he looked like he smiled. 1706 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 3: I mean, so Gunther won. 1707 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Now that that that, you know itself, isn't crazy because 1708 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in retirement they do they put 1709 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 1: a guy over by going out with a loss, right, So. 1710 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 3: That part's not crazy, but maybe a little shocking that 1711 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 3: he just tapped. He was he was in a sleeper 1712 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 3: hole for a long time. 1713 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like he was sleeping right. 1714 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: They did the arm thing, yeah, and the arms came up, 1715 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: stayed up, and then you thought he was gonna go 1716 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: Super Sena. 1717 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 3: He's like, oh, here we go. But then he didn't 1718 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 3: put him back on, and then he just smiled. You 1719 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 3: could see like John Zie and smiling. And then everybody 1720 01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 3: came down to the ring. 1721 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 1: They gave him I guess it was Cody Roads and 1722 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 1: see him gave Sena their titles just to hold up 1723 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 1: and walk around with. Then he took off I was 1724 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna say wrestling boots. But their shoes they're like, look 1725 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 1: like AESYX or not even like sketchers or something. 1726 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what he wears. He hasn't Jordan's anymore. 1727 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. They're like they look like 1728 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: no name shoes. Maybe I don't know, maybe they're from 1729 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: Legal or something. And then he just leaves them in 1730 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the in the ring and salutes everybody on his way. 1731 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Was he wearing jorts? 1732 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, somebody yell, this is very funny. He 1733 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: takes off his shoes and you literally could hear somebody 1734 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 1: in the crowd. 1735 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 3: Say leave your jorts in the ring. 1736 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 1: You could hear it perfect The person yelled yelled at 1737 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: the perfect. 1738 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,440 Speaker 3: Time where it just was silent, but he didn't georts remained. 1739 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 2: That would make. 1740 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 3: It was so funny. Hey, man, Sena sucks, Sina sucks. 1741 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,200 Speaker 3: I hate you. I'm glad he's preaching to the choir. 1742 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 3: Get out of here. 1743 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 2: You know. 1744 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 3: People came back around on him as his career came 1745 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,960 Speaker 3: to a club, but the longest time the chants were 1746 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 3: Seena sucks, and they were right well, and then but 1747 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,680 Speaker 3: then it became Sena rocks, Sna sucks. That was part 1748 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 3: of the fun. 1749 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: So you will not have John Scene on your Mount 1750 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: rushmore of all time wrestlers. I think he may be 1751 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: there quite honestly, but not anywhere close to mine. 1752 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 3: You're not even allowed in our national park. Okay, you 1753 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 3: got macho man on yours. Who who are the other? 1754 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too current. Who's my other thing? The rock 1755 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 2: is on there? 1756 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Were you? You're not an attitude. 1757 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 2: There a guy? 1758 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1759 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was. There was a gap that No, 1760 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 2: the w C a w gu. 1761 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 3: I mean, were you a Hogan guy? No? One wants 1762 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,679 Speaker 3: to be a Hogan guy now, but we're when you're 1763 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 3: a kid. Yeah. 1764 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 2: It was a respect from distance, not really. I'm I 1765 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 2: love him. Yeah, I did have two of his wrestlers, 1766 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 2: wrestlers something like his figure model wrestlers. That's that's rare 1767 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 2: back then, that too. 1768 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 3: Did you like Razor Ramone? Guy? 1769 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean I'm going deep. No, I loved. I like, 1770 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,639 Speaker 2: I don't know who my third and fourth. I really 1771 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 2: gotta put some thought into this Tomorrow. Tomorrow you can 1772 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,879 Speaker 2: tell us if it's If it's not Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, 1773 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,360 Speaker 2: it's one of his fingers on the mat Rushmore, because 1774 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,919 Speaker 2: I lost a finger of my Ricky the Dragon Steamboat wrestler. 1775 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 2: And actually I lost drag the Hammer Valentine's underwear or 1776 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 2: whatever you call it one. 1777 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 3: Yes, trunks what they got smudged off? 1778 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gone drawzy easy. Anyways, I gotta put my 1779 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 2: boy Bobby the brain to this one and really think 1780 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 2: about it. Something's over