1 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: So I have something up my sleeve tonight for you guys. 2 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: This has been a really great podcast experience overall, and 3 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: it's been amazing to connect with new people. And something 4 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: crazy happened this weekend. I'm just going to tell you 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: something crazy happened this weekend. And my fiance and I 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: were in the car and he had an idea and 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: he said to me, I have a terrible idea. You're 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: going to hate it. And he told me the idea 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know why. I will figure out later why, 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: but I just said, let's go, and it escalated into 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: a full scale production. It started with like a see 12 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: it of an idea two o'clock fifty two hours ago, 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and here we are, for the first time ever, I 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: am having a housewife on my podcast tonight, all of 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: my podcasts. I've never had somebody on all of my 16 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: podcasts in one night. This is an extravaganza explosion. So 17 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: drum roll, please welcome Jill Zarn. 18 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Wow, thank you for having me. 19 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: I almost just start crying because I just it all 20 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: just like it's been a thing, honestly thirteen years, thirteen years, 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: and this weekend was something else. Just this like it's 22 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: just been manic and thinking about this and now we're 23 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: doing it. So we're gonna like slowly go through it. 24 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: So first of all, Ali's here, Gary's here, Jill is 25 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: here with I mean, they're here with Jill, and thank 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: you for being here. You are all hearing. We've had 27 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: some small talk and like just wardrobe changes and stuff, 28 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: because within four minutes Joe was in my bedroom changing 29 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: into another outfit. So we haven't spoken, but we I've 30 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: seen her nude, so that's good. Look good that you 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: looked at Yes, you look amazing. 32 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Talk about that. 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: So but first, thank thank you for doing this, for 34 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: trusting me. And let's we're going to get into all 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: of it. So we're going through. We're mentioning it all. 36 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: We both need to get a hobby, and we are 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: mentioning it all. So this is Bethany and Jill reunited 38 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty ten Barack Obama was president, 39 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: and I remembered. 40 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: How crazy is that? 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: How crazy is that? 42 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: And I remembered the you and I were together at 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: Sylvia's Harlem when he won the election and Harlem went crazy. 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: And I have pictures of us there. I should do. 45 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: I'll give him to post. 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: Give him to me. Okay, all right, So Friday, I 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: just want to set you up because I still Jill 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: doesn't know the story. 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: She just came. 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: We have not spoken at all since she got this. 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: Deliberately don't let you knew. 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: We were speaking like without speaking, like your mind what 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: you I wasn't calling you, and I first thought like 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: should I call her because it seems insulting, But like 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: I just stayed quiet and you stayed quiet, and we'll 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: hear my comment. 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: I talked about that in the pre interview in the 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: other room. I actually mentioned something a little bit something 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: about me. 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: We were like quietly dancing and like without any you 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like we weren't talking. 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: No, but there's a history there that you don't know about, 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: like for me, Oh okay, we'll. 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Get into it. Okay, Well, we'll get there. If you 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: want take notes, if there's something you might miss. You 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like is that a real pen? 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: It feels like not a real pen? Okay, okay, So 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: it's like there's something you want to say, just write 69 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: it down. 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: We'll get there. 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: There's no this is oh hi, everyone, this is live 72 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: and unedited Okay, So there's a history with live and 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: being edited and you're not wanting someone to like mince 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: your words or mix things together, which can happen on 75 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: reality TV. So I've also never done a live and unedited. 76 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: I've never had a housewife. I've never had someone be 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: on all the podcasts. I've never had someone too much. 78 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: What do you mean? But I'm confused, and maybe I'm 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: the only one confused when you say all the podcasts 80 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: and so I. 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Have I have a Housewives University where I talk to 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the person if we get to it, about their business 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: and like give them a grade. You're here, So I'll 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: be like on Zaren Fabrics, I think it was this, 85 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: like it's Housewives University. Is that a separate podcast only 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: it's all on the same feed and it's all part 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: of my podcast, But it's like marketed is like a 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: different in a different way. 89 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Yes, So I want to definitely 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: be in that school with Allison. 91 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Allison could be in that school. So and 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Re rants we can just talk about the state of 93 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: what we think the Housewives and how it's changed. Rewives 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the new show and then 95 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: this is you know, but it's gonna be available. This 96 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: is just me and this is our reunion. So that's 97 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: like how I just but I've never had someone to 98 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: my house before to do the podcast. I've never done this, 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: so I've never had guest. So there's a lot of 100 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: first tonight and I've never done a live and unedited 101 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: a podcast. But we're all going with God and trusting it. 102 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: So Friday, Paul and I were doing a lobster roll, 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: a lobster salad crawl for YouTube. So we went to 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: like five places, and you know, Paul's very level and 105 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm very like activated, and I don't need more activation 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: and I don't need more projects and more work, and 107 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: you know, when we're together, it's kind of we want 108 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: to try to like be calm and brings on here 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: this weekend. So it's just gonna be like a relaxing weekend, 110 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: jump in the ocean, lay around, watch TV like nothing 111 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: of the weekend, maybe go out to one meal. So Friday, 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: and Paul's the one who had the idea to do 113 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: rewives to begin with. He kept not the name and 114 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: not the concept that it is now, but he kept saying, 115 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: you gotta do it. You gotta do a podcast about 116 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: everyone's doing that. And it took me six months to decide. 117 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: So Paul was saying to me in the car, he said, 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I have a He said to me at two o'clock 119 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: on Friday, I have a terrible idea. And he hasn't 120 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: two o'clock Friday day, Monday. It's Monday. 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: So when did you call me? Saturday? 122 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: Amy from my heart called you Friday. And we were 123 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: supposed to do this Sunday yesterday, but there was a 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: torrential storm that blew my house up like it was 125 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: really so Friday, Paul said, let's I have a terrible idea. 126 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna hate it. And he doesn't know much about you. 127 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: He only knows what I've told him. He's never seen 128 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: one half of an episode. And I said what he said? 129 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: He said, he's here, but he said, you should rewatch 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: the new show with Jill Zarin and wow, and people 131 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: have asked a million things for me to do. He 132 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: looked at me in the car, were sitting in the 133 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: car and the King Colin parking lot, and I looked 134 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: at him and. 135 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: I said, let's fucking go. 136 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: And I said, and we have a YouTube series that 137 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: we produced that we literally pay to do. It's a 138 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: joke or like paint. It's like the movie. The producers like, 139 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: we're paying for this fluff. Yes, and and we're and 140 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: and we have the muppets that they're all here that 141 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: shoot it and we go and do these crawls and 142 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: these things that it has definitely not been monetized. 143 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: That Bethany Frankel just admitted she's got actually like a boss. 144 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: There's somebody in Who's the boss? No, No, like Paul 145 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: like not in. I was like, what I mean, is 146 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: someone you actually respect and listen to? That's what I mean. 147 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Not I mean like you like. 148 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: Paul thought this, and I agreed, and Paul thought that 149 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: I've never heard well I haven't seen him in a 150 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: long time, but there's never been someone that I knew 151 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: in your life that you will like, would respect enough. 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: And I respect him and he compliments me, and we're 153 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: good at very different things. And it was a new 154 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: for me. It was a superb idea and it then 155 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: escalated into a snowball of us shooting it for YouTube 156 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: so I won't be able to see everything. I knew 157 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: that we would have to give it to them. And 158 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: there are questions about is this authentic? Am I really 159 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: doing this because of me? Am I only doing like 160 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: because of the show? Am I only doing it because 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: of that show? We can get into all of that, 162 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: mention it all, but and there is some part of 163 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: that because otherwise, why are there camry our cameras here 164 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: and why and why are we doing it for my podcast? 165 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: We could do it in the backyard. So it's a 166 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: whole mixed bag, and we're going to get into all 167 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: of it. And we are both here to be open books. 168 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: You agreed to be honest, honest, so that's setting you 169 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: up to get here to my house, and I want 170 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: to know you're going to be one hundred. 171 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: Percent honest, honest. 172 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So what was going through your mind when you 173 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: got the phone call to do this? Uh? 174 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: I was surprised, but I wasn't going to be impulsive, 175 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: maybe because I'm medicated now and I wasn't thirteen years 176 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: ago in a good way because I I have you know, 177 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: not OCD. I was gonna say, oh, I don't have OCD, 178 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: I have anxiety. I definitely had an anxiety disorder when 179 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: you knew me for sure, I mean you could tell 180 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: just the way I couldn't and manic. 181 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Also you get manic too, what. 182 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: It was, but you see, how have you been with 183 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: me now for two hours? Have you seen that? 184 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: Yes, like there's little spurts of it. But I'm more 185 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: like that than you. I always was like that, So 186 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: the two of us together. 187 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: Was like but not now now I can actually balance 188 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: that interesting, Yes, at least I think I can. 189 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm delusion on myself. 190 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: So you look great, and Jill showed up in a 191 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: sweatsuit because I'm wearing a dress that's thirty dollars from Express, 192 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: and neither of us did our hair and makeup. I 193 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: thought you would show up in full glam and like. 194 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: No, I had my makeup done but light, oh okay. 195 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: Not like and then and then you didn't like your 196 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: outfit because you were wearing something you would probably wearing, 197 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: like a very a private plane, because it was. 198 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: A right no no, But I thought we were sitting 199 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: here doing this, only I didn't realize that they were 200 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: other things. And so when we were taking photos, because 201 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: I didn't think it through. Honestly, I didn't as much 202 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: because you've been in it for forty eight hours, fifty 203 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: two hours thinking, thinking, thinking, I've been just thinking to myself, 204 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: go with the flow, just be there, be present, that's 205 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: all I'm I. 206 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: Didn't want that was intentional. And also I wasn't gonna 207 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: put on a ball gown at my house because that's 208 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: everything I don't like about housewives now. And I also 209 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: wasn't going to ambush you with interesting word in full 210 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: hair makeup and look like, oh hi, you know it's. 211 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: Just not But I also should know that you'll always 212 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: look beautiful because you are beautiful, and you wore a 213 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: pretty dress. Whether it's thirty dollars or three thousand dollars 214 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You look beautiful. So I felt a little underdressed, underdressed, 215 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: especially since we're putting out a nice photo. I wanted 216 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: to look pretty and it was so nice and opened 217 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: your closet. No, of course I wanted to like level it. 218 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: The last thing I want is you distracted about your outfit. 219 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So okay, So you agree 220 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: to do that, and I knew, wait, let me ask 221 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: the question. So you asked me what I thought of 222 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: when you call exactly? So one of the things that 223 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: went through my mind fast, and this is what I 224 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: did write it down. 225 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: Was you had a talk show years ago. We were 226 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: in a different place. 227 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: It was still not right after what happened, but within 228 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: five something years or whatever, and I got a call 229 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: from one of your producers to do your show, and 230 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: I was excited about it. But I said to me, 231 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: you know what, I really want to hear from Bethany, 232 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: because at that point I hadn't spoken to you for 233 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: one time, not even it was before Bobby passed, so 234 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: I had not seen. 235 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: You for a big, long run. It's been now. Really, 236 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: I say that this is now. 237 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: I don't feel like that any Like I saw you 238 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: on a plane and it was comfortable. 239 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: But this is the first time we've been alone since 240 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: twenty ten. We were at Bobby's funeral. Yes, we were like, 241 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: it's only shatter, this is like real talk, you know, 242 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: it's different. 243 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, was still not alone because it's still them full 244 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: of people. 245 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: But fair But that's fair, right, Like if you and 246 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: I were Candy Kitchen without a camera or mic that 247 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: and no phones. 248 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. 249 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: The last time I felt like I was alone with 250 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: you was when you came to my house when Bobby died. 251 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: When you came to my apartment, Brinn and Ali right exact. 252 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: I still felt like you and I were alone in 253 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: my own head. Anyway, it doesn't matter. 254 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: That's a distraction, so no, that should be changed on 255 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: the post. 256 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: So anyway, So no. 257 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: So the first thing that I thought of was that 258 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: somebody called me on your behalf and I said, if 259 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: Bethany calls me, then I'll do it. 260 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: And he never called me back. 261 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: Interesting, So that went through my head and I said, yeah, 262 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: it's timing two days time. Yes, So I went through 263 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: my head, is okay? Do I said to myself, do 264 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 3: I say to that person if Bethany called, I repeat that? 265 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: And I said, no, why set myself up to fail. 266 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: There's a reason why she didn't call. But she called 267 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: that she. 268 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: Wanted me to come on. So she was giving me 269 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: an olive branch. 270 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: And that's okay, And that's something maybe wouldn't it been 271 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: okay ten years ago. I think I'm in a different 272 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm more mature, I'm not jaded. I there's nothing for 273 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: me to win or lose. It's just a. 274 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Different Nobody has anything you want, I say, Paul, is 275 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: no one has anything right. 276 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: That I can't get myself. If I want it, and 277 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: I don't do anything I don't want to do like 278 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: you do. I'm at a point in my life age, money, success, 279 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: I don't do anything I want to do anyway. 280 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: I was open. 281 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: To it, but I said, but instead of being impulsive 282 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: saying yes or no, I say, can I call you back? 283 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: I want to talk to Ali because now that I 284 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: have a thirty year old daughter instead of a thirteen 285 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: year old daughter, I used to be her boss. Now 286 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: she's my boss, right, But she's always been the one 287 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: to look at things from a different point of view. 288 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: And her first reaction was, of course you should do it. 289 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: And she knows me, and we saw I saw her 290 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: with Brannet's surflage and absolutely absolutely, but. 291 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: She said, of course you should do it, and that's it. 292 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: That's all it took. 293 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't even entire when Paul said it. I 294 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: just was instantly thought. I just thought it was a 295 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: good idea. And also, you have a husband, you have 296 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: a thirty year old daughter. I can't even believe you 297 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: just said that sentence, like, I have a fiance, I 298 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: have a daughter. That's you told me that. 299 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: Alerson was thirteen when we became close friends. Not when 300 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: we met, because we probably met when you she was 301 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: ten or something. But when we became close friends, Ali 302 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: was thirteen. It was after her Bot mits for though, 303 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: because that wasn't on the show, so she was between 304 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: thirteen and fourteen. 305 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: So how do you recall us meeting? I My first 306 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: recollection is you coming up to me in a movie 307 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: theater after I'd been on The Apprentice and you were 308 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: with a friend. 309 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: That's what I remember, okay, But then you told me 310 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: that we met at Nobu with Elise Slaine. 311 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: That was later. We all went together after that movie theater. 312 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: Then we all had dinner at Nobu with Elise Slain. 313 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Housewives inside, which is also weird because she came on 314 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: the show not because of you, right, no, no, and 315 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: not because of me. Oh right, interesting and shewife she 316 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: was a housewife. And then I don't know, I've never 317 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I've written it in books, but we were never speaking. 318 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've heard what I wrote about the 319 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: day that I was in the outfit at Polo when 320 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: I got cast on the show. So let me tell 321 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you my election, he said. She said. My recollection is 322 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: I was in the Hampton's in my little white juicy 323 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: terry cloth romper and I was in a relationship and 324 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: I was hawking my Bethany bakes cookies and I was 325 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: running from Super Saturday coming over to Polo. I don't 326 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: know how I got in because I don't know anybody then. 327 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: And that was a big deal back then. Now, tool, 328 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: you couldn't pay me to go because we're older and wiser. 329 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: But they gave me a bracelet like to get and 330 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: I guess you could get a gift back exactly. 331 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: That was a big deal. 332 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: And you came in and I later and you came 333 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: in and you saw me, and you said, literally, it 334 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: was just foreshadowing to my cocktail. You said, where'd you 335 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: get that? Where'd you get the VIP bracelet? You skinny bitch? Okay, 336 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: you said where'd you get the vipace? And I was like, 337 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I really don't know if I remember, 338 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: and I remember Lance Bass was there that day and 339 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: there was a tent and then you said, like, we're 340 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: doing a reality show that about moms who can't get 341 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: their kids into private school or something like that. And 342 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you said, and the producers are here, and Bobby's here, 343 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: and we want you to meet them, and I was like, 344 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't even I'm not even in a very serious relationship, 345 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be on a show about women getting 346 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: their kids into private school like And then you said 347 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: it because you have always these big ideas. And then 348 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't you like, set it and forget it. And 349 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: then Bobby brought Kira Brings over to me and we 350 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: all had a conversation about it, and I. 351 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: Don't remember the beginning everything you said. I don't remember 352 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: any of it. The only thing I remember is Bobby 353 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: saying to me beth Andy would be great on the show. 354 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, but she's not married. 355 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: She's it's like it's for moms, and he goes like 356 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. And then I went for the hard 357 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: cell with you. I was literally selling you doing the 358 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: show right then and there, saying it do You said 359 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: to me, I don't have I'm not married, you know, 360 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter. You want to be married, you 361 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: want to have kids like that. I want to remember 362 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: you said, but I said that right. 363 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: Also, it's more crazy because you brought a producer. I 364 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: did rolls Royce Tipolo because Bravo was going to shut 365 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: the show down. They didn't want they wanted a fifth wife. 366 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: They didn't want you guys were ready filming, but they 367 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: were like, we need a fifth wife. They weren't filming already. 368 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: You were ready filming. You did before me. There was 369 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: like they had to cut me back in at the 370 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: tennis match and put me in it because I was 371 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: there like a month later. They'd been filming, but it 372 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a real show and they spent no money. 373 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: So I'll fix that one. So we filmed the Fourth 374 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: of July party. I know you were there. I had 375 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: a Fourth of July party and. 376 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I was at the first party. You had a first party, 377 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: and you guys, you're right. 378 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: I had a first that was thought of July where 379 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: we were dancing in the house at night, and Ramona 380 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: was like, I was later, came in the. 381 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: Kitchen with your aunt or sister someone a friend and 382 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: we were talking later. It doesn't that's the man. I 383 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: just know that Bravo wanted the fifth wife, but they 384 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: wanted a wife who was a wealthier looked wealthier. 385 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: And I remember talking to Andy and convincing him and 386 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: you know what's so funny, and it kind of bothered 387 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: me a little bit. 388 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Later on you know later later on. 389 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: Somebody once asked Andy in an interview, which housewife calls 390 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: you the most? And by the way, this wasn't like 391 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: after I was on the show. This was many, many 392 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: years later, after he's had many many other shows, many 393 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: many other wives. Like I'm a housewife number six. That's 394 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: what I call myself, because they were five Orange County 395 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: and then I was like, number six, okay, and you 396 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: can literally number them all. 397 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: You were probably number seven. 398 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. That's fine, right. 399 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: So I would say this one hundred housewives already, and. 400 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Someone said to him one hundred and eighty I think 401 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: or something. 402 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: So someone said to Andy, asked Andy, who who calls 403 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: you the who's called you the most in whatever? And 404 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: he said, Jill's Aaron. And I'm thinking to myself, first 405 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: of all, that cannot possibly be true. I was on 406 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: the show for four years. There's been a thousand housewived. 407 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: It might have been at that time, at that moment, 408 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: but at that time, that's what I'm saying. 409 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: But there was so many. 410 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: And then the other thing what I said to myself, 411 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 3: and yeah, you know why I was calling you so 412 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: much because I was trying to get Bethany on the 413 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: fucking show. 414 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Oh that's back. Oh that was a long time. 415 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: Do you remember how many calls I'm like trying to 416 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: sell you and I'm trying to sell this one. Yes, 417 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: I was on the phone with him and lean on 418 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: my own self. 419 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: But you didn't want. You wanted the show to happen 420 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: so badly because they were not they were not sure 421 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: they were going to continue. And you took a producer 422 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: in the rolls Ars and you go, let's go to 423 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Polo and the Hamptons. We'll find a housewife. 424 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: No, that's what she said. Well this is what happened. 425 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: Well this one, Bravo wanted to get another housewife, and 426 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: they wanted They sent Cure to the Hamptons to do it. Okay, 427 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: they put her in a motel out in Montalk because 428 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: on a map, you know where I lived, and Water 429 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: was very close to Montalk. It's like an hour and 430 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: a half in traffic. So I said to her, listen, 431 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: don't tell Bravo stay in my house. 432 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: I have. 433 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: Staying in her house because I was being nice. Bravo 434 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: never knew that I put her in my house because 435 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: they wouldn't like it, or in your trunk exactly. No, 436 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: So I said to her, well, I'll introduce you to everybody. 437 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: Let's go, and I took her to Paulo, I took 438 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: her wherever I could to find people. I networked the 439 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: whole post. I know, obviously, but that's how she got 440 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: to my head. 441 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: Money, get me a housewife, have to get the plane 442 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: to take Ali. Yeah, so that is why. So it 443 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: is Jill and Bobby why I was on the house 444 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: if that is the true story. And Kira Brings deserves 445 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: a shout out because she I didn't want to do 446 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: the show. How about I said no. Oh, that's why 447 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: there was another couple of weeks or months because I 448 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: said no right after she came and shot me. And 449 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: then I said no because I was in a relationship 450 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: with the guy. Didn't want to be were worried about him, Yes, 451 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: he was whatever, And so I said no, And you 452 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: guys kept shooting, and I was I keep forgetting. I 453 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: was intrigued by it, so I kept thinking about it. 454 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not selling you to do it. It's gonna 455 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: be good for your brand. It's going to be good 456 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: for you. And I'm telling Andy you got it. Have 457 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: Bethany it doesn't matter that she was on the Apprentice. 458 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: That's you know, it doesn't matter. It's a different network, 459 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: it's a different day, and she's so funny. 460 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: There's only one b Well, I appreciate it. 461 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 3: No, And by the way, since then, there's never been 462 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: anyone who that kind of sense of humor. Oky, Okay, 463 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: So I want this is why you'd be really honest. 464 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: So knowing that you were very largely responsible for me 465 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: being on the show, I mean beyond like I'm saying, 466 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: very largely because Bobby and Kira were also part of it, 467 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: you know, like absolutely very largely your your little pod 468 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: plus Kira was entirely responsible for me being on the show. 469 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: Did you later resent my success and like what I 470 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: made out of it? 471 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: Did you feel okay? 472 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: Not only did I not resent your success, what I 473 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: resented was that you didn't want to share anything with me. 474 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: I was happy for you. 475 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: But do you know this one thing I remember that 476 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to say hold on too, because I 477 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: don't hold onto, but I'll tell you it's something I remember. 478 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: I want to see if you remember this. I remember 479 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: when you were starting out, and you know, I'm obsessed 480 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: with private plans. I don't have to tell you that. 481 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: I know. 482 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: I was just talking about the big PP on the show. 483 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: Right. 484 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: You said to me that if I do two million dollars, 485 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: If I make two million dollars, I'm going to take 486 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: you on a private plane. And I remembered it, and 487 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: I was like, is she going to remember? 488 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, now I'm going to do it because I didn't 489 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: have two million dollars when we were still friends. 490 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: No, that is true. No, No, but I'm saying, I 491 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: wonder if she'll remember that it. 492 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: No, but I remember we were talking in Darren Fabrics 493 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: about the PP and the private plane and. 494 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: All that obsessed obsessed. 495 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: Well that's that's honest, and that's honest. Especially you did. 496 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: You've done things that I've wanted to do. Like right 497 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: after we, you know, had our fight and you had 498 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 3: your own show, you did you took an r V trip. 499 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Do you remember that on your show? 500 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 501 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: On the bus you did this RV? Yeah, al, the 502 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: tour bus. 503 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: Is that my dream? My dream is an RV. So 504 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, she's like living my dream. 505 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: But we weren't friends then. 506 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 3: No, But you know what I I I felt so 507 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: bad that I missed your wedding, like I never thought 508 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: that I wouldn't be there for your wedding, Like, no matter. 509 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: What, I always was so happy for you. 510 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: And I know I think it was hard for you 511 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: to believe that someone could really be happy for you. 512 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: And act believe it. I believe. What I believe is 513 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: I believe that I validate and acknowledge gatekeeping certain things. 514 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: You made it very challenging to share certain things because 515 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: if I told you, if I told you, if you 516 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: said to me, what's that and I said, schlepimental sent 517 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: it to me, you'd call them in five minutes and 518 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: they might not have wanted me to like you, you 519 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: were grabby. I'm gonna be honest. 520 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: I want you to be honest. 521 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: You were very grabby and like you, I did a show, 522 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: and let's not be like, I don't know, it's okay 523 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: because these are things. I'm glad I was hosting it 524 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: and I was the first one to ever do that. 525 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: And they were like Joe's Aaron wasn't very happy about this. 526 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: She was like, why not you said that? 527 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: And never I don't know who said that, But I mean, 528 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: I I'll own my ship and I do own my 529 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: all my shit I never happened. I never there was 530 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: never a show. First of all, I don't remember what 531 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: the show was, but I remember you did say it 532 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: on like the Today Show. Is something about that that 533 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: there was that you had heard that I told somebody 534 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: that I don't want you to have something that it 535 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: should have been me. Never happens. Well, let's scar to 536 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: you it is. 537 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: But let's just the fact that you that if there 538 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: are two housewives over on whatever show right now and 539 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: they're best friends, they leave the show, their friendship changes. 540 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: It's just a very top sick environment that you are 541 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: the first person I said think that ever said that word. 542 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: But like, friendships are real, but it's terrible for a relationship. 543 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: It's terrible for a friendship and all, it's terrible for 544 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: a marriage. But also like you're a thoroughbred horse and 545 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: you come out of that fucking gate and it's it's 546 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: a zero sum game. It's someone's winning and someone's losing. 547 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: If you are looking amazing, someone else in that fucking 548 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: scene is looking like shit. You don't know that until 549 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: watching the show. My point is everybody on that's having 550 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: these different experiences, especially in the beginning. It's like the 551 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: fucking running of the bulls. So whatever I'm getting everybody's 552 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: worried about. 553 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: Get you were. 554 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Panicked going into one season. I don't have a thing. 555 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: What's my thing to close? 556 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: Closed? 557 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: No, meant like a thing. You were felt like the 558 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: race had started. I understand this by the way I 559 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: would feel the same way the race had started. I 560 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: knew what I wanted to do. I knew what I 561 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: wanted my business to be. And at that point in 562 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: that show, you were aware because you were watching what 563 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: was happening. You were aware that, like you wanted to 564 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: be monetizing it too. In some way. I don't mean 565 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: this is. 566 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: Jealous, for sure. I mean I could, I could write 567 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: a book about fomo. No, totally have fomo. But this 568 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: is the difference, okay. 569 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: No, I mean you wanted to utilize the experience because 570 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: the clock had started. We were an entrepreneur, absolutely saying, 571 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: and you couldn't find the thing, and I needed help 572 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: figuring out what that thing was. It took me like 573 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: ten years, but it's just not easy in the moment 574 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: someone has a gun to your head to say what 575 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: the thing is. 576 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: Carol Rads, your thing really started after we were friends. 577 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Nobody evolved. I was a chef, cook in your kitchen, 578 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: and then the low calorie thing, and I was It's just. 579 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: There's no question, and I there's no question that I wanted. 580 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 3: I like to learn from other people and I do 581 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: get fomo. But the one thing about the show, I 582 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: never wanted my own show. I loved being an ensemble. 583 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: And I think that you might have thought that I 584 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: wanted like my own thing, and I was jealous that 585 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 3: you got your own show. 586 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: I was never just I. 587 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: You never wanted to the powers that be in a 588 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: way that was problematic, and it might have been about 589 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: something else, and I don't want to do that, he said, 590 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: she's because I just like you. 591 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: Though, unless it comes from me, from in life, unless 592 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: you hear it from the horse's mouth. And I think 593 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: you know now with life experience, it's not always well, 594 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 595 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess because I'm thinking of it. We 596 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: have to mention it all because the real breakdown happened, 597 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: and often this happens on housewives, and I haven't said 598 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: this has happened with Carroll and myself. The real breakdown. Now, 599 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: keep in mind, audience that you're this is not now 600 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: when people can go to literally Housewives University and study 601 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: everything to wear and to do and become a professional 602 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: housewife by the time they get on This is years. 603 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: We were in a brand new thing, doing a brand 604 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: new eye. You were making the rule book. I I 605 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: don't know what you made. I made. I think we 606 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: made hundred and fifty dollars. I was the first contract. Yep, okay. 607 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: For the first season, I was wearing my me down 608 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: turquoise used Ralph Laurence sweater in my living room, doing 609 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: my own makeup. It was not what it is today. 610 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: So we all weren't a new thing and it exploded, 611 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: and Ramona knew it was gonna get Remember I did too. 612 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: I remember, I did not. 613 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: I didn't even know what we did that New York 614 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: Times I think was The York magazine. We did some 615 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: photo shoot and I just remember Harper's Bizarre. Harper's Bizarre 616 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: was the biggest one. You were freaking That was season two. 617 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: Oh okay, no, But there was a point I don't 618 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: know before we got on TV. I just remember looking 619 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 3: at all of us saying, you know this is going 620 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: to be this is going to be big. 621 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be really big. And 622 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be twenty years big, No 623 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: going to be fair, Ramona. Not only did she call 624 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: the ratings, but the way there was something else. I 625 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: just lost my thoughts. But it was she thought the 626 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: ratings were gonna be huge, but there was something else 627 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: about you didn't think it was. Okay, I'll get there. 628 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: I have a question. 629 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: I don't mean to be out of order, but you 630 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: brought up you brought up Carol's name. Do you think 631 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: that Carol would do you think you could do this 632 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: with Carol based on your friendship with her? 633 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to do I mean, respectfully, I don't. 634 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this with Carol. It's just different. 635 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: There's not it's not it didn't go as deep, Okay, 636 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: I was just it was just and it got dirty 637 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: or oddly. So it's it's not. 638 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm just curious because you brought her name up. That's right. 639 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: No, I brought her name up because what I was 640 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: trying to say to the audience is that, like, you 641 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: get into this thing, you don't know what it is. 642 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: You're experiencing fame for the first time. Oh, I said 643 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: to somebody, this could be a cultural phenomenon. Claire Mercury, 644 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: who was Billy Joel's publicism, she said, it's not stop. 645 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: It's not going to be a cultural phenomenon anymore than 646 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: the guy from the liquor company that I said skinny 647 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: Girl could be a fuck you brand. He's like, shut up, 648 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. But it became 649 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: a cultural phenomenon. But we were in the beginning of it. 650 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: And oh, Ramona was right about New York did. She 651 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have good messaging, as Paul often says, I don't, 652 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: but she said that New York really put the house 653 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: was on the map, not Orange County was first. But 654 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: we were in im Media City, the show was being 655 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: filmed in the. 656 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: Press was on us. 657 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: We got the Harpers bizarre, I know it was different. 658 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: So she but no, shame on them. I mean they 659 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: they broke you know, they they started. 660 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: It, no question. I'm just saying she stumbled on our words. 661 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: But because you don't need to and not everything needs 662 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: to do else. 663 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 3: I remember from that first season this. I told this 664 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: to Gary today. Do you remember Linda Stossi from the 665 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: New York Post. She used to write their reviews. Okay, 666 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: so when the first the show first came out, and 667 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: the ratings came out, and people writing reviews. I opened 668 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: up because I used to read that every day, and 669 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: I'd opened it up and it had four things right, 670 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: and I was so excited. And I remember calling someone 671 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: up saying, oh my god, we got four stars on 672 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: page on, you know, in the New York Post. And 673 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: they looked like, Jill, she's not four stars, it's four 674 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: garbage can she trashed. 675 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: You couldn't even have more. 676 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: So there's four stars and then there's one garbage can. 677 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: I'll pay one thousand dollars for Jill to say garbage. 678 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: We had four Paul's laughing, like Paul's faces read. Paul 679 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: and Garrett are sitting next to each other, like I 680 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: need a picture of that. Okay, that's beyond They're They're 681 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: sitting next to another, laughing. 682 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: Cover the belly, Honey, cover the belly. 683 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: Okay, Paul. If I ever said that's to Paul, he 684 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: would be in a therapist's office for ten years. 685 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: He just SATs kidding me. 686 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so so no. But what I was gonna say 687 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: to you was the off season. It happened with Carol too. 688 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: The off season is when your mind gets crazy, you're 689 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: still living in all the garbage that lived in the 690 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: last season. You're ready to go the next season. And 691 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Bobby had had a health scare. Sorry Gary talking about Bobby. 692 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: It's just nory. 693 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: Gary talks about it more than Bobby because we He 694 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: has utmost respect for Bobby's am right, and I compare 695 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: him all the time. 696 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: So Bobby had had a health scare, but it felt 697 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: like it was all being teed up for next season, 698 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: and I respect that as much as I respect today. 699 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: I was teeing everything up for this. I didn't like 700 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: talk to you that much before. I wanted it to 701 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: be here. And when you're doing this sport, your mind 702 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: gets fucked, no more no less than Kyle and Mauricio 703 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: getting the cameras up the Sandovals. Your mind gets fucked 704 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: and you don't know the difference between what you should 705 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: be doing private life. 706 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: I always had a problem with that betening what was 707 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: real what was fake? When we had that thing with 708 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: was what. 709 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Was real, what was content? I don't mean fake y. 710 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: So when I went to Ramona's house, and I call 711 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: it being ambushed because I had no clue. 712 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: First of all, I didn't know your father was sick. 713 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know any of that because you know, there 714 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: was no social media then, so it wasn't like I 715 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: could open up a book and you know, And of 716 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: course I know what Bethany is because she tells everybody. 717 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: That's also that part, isn't it to be on. I'm 718 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: gonna be as honest as I can possibly be in 719 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the same way that you used the Bobby card a 720 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: little bit. That was a card my father's sick. Like 721 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: I didn't really like my father. 722 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. 723 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: But the whole group, that's what happens on the housewise, 724 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: what happens on that father just died, And so I'm like, 725 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: of course it's a thing, your fucking killer be killed. 726 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I didn't say, but I mean 727 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: by that I wanted to have a real That's not 728 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: entirely true. My father dying was a thing in my 729 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: life because it was a complicated relationship. It wasn't like 730 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: I was having a Mardi Gras party. It was upsetting, 731 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: But certainly I know the fact that you came over 732 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: and we weren't in a good place. It's it's it's like, 733 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: it's it's layering it on and I you let you 734 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: used the she didn't visit Bobby, and like then I 735 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: was like having to calculate the flowers I sent and 736 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: all that shit. That's the fucking house. 737 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: Wise because you know why bethaned it because I couldn't 738 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: tell the real truth, the real truth of why I 739 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: was mad at you, because they were the reason I 740 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: was mad at you, because you know, I know you 741 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: said get a hobby or whatever. The reason I was 742 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: mad at you is because I was hurt, and maybe 743 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: I didn't, you know, I didn't express it. 744 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: I didn't. I was hurt that I was losing you 745 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: and I was being left out of everything. 746 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: And I know you say it in it's a different way, 747 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: but like I remember when you went on vacation, you 748 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: got invited for a free trip, and I wanted not 749 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: for the free trip. 750 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to like be with you, you know what 751 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean. 752 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: And then I was on your bed and I was broke, 753 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: and you did take me into your home. 754 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: And I never counted that. 755 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: I never did. 756 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I never cared about that Bobby fed me or whatever, 757 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: but I never said that just you know, I never 758 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: said I don't even care. It was true, I had 759 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: no plan. I don't know, but I never said it. 760 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't that's not something. 761 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: What I cared about is that I felt I lost you, 762 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: and I couldn't really say that I was hurt by 763 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: things that you had said, like there was there was 764 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: something you were on the Today Show. 765 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. 766 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: And I interviewed you, and maybe you were mad at 767 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: me at the time, and they said, well, how did 768 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: you get on the show, And you said a producer 769 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: found me, And that was like a dagger to No. 770 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: That was the crux because I read about that in 771 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: New York Magazine. That's when you were like, okay, all 772 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: bets are off, and you mentioned it in New York Magazine, 773 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: and I had said it many places, and to this day, 774 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: I've said it in my book that you brought me 775 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: on the show, and. 776 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: I know you have. 777 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: But that day, no, I believe that you felt left out. 778 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: I believe that you were. I don't like the word jealous, 779 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: let's use a better word. I believe you were slightly 780 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: envious and confused by all that was. 781 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to come along with me, and I believe 782 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't envy that I wanted it. I wanted to 783 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: do it with you, not like being your partner. 784 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I remember you. 785 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: Said to me, I wanted to do a talk show. 786 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: I said, well, I would never want to do a 787 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: talk show talk show with you, but I would love 788 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: to be a guest on once a week. 789 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? 790 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Like that, I don't want to be remembered. To my 791 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: mind is going, I don't want to be equal. I 792 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: just like wanted to be part of I know you 793 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: wanted us to go and be Lucian Ethel the whole way, 794 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: and I think I wanted to be a solo. Yes, yeah, 795 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: and that's the crux. Say no, but that was the crux, right, 796 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: and you also wanted the credit of that you got 797 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: me on and like you didn't get it there and 798 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: it just knocked it and then and then your face 799 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: my opinion as a person that I said, Paul Paul's 800 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: our camera guy was saying before, like what is this 801 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: in sports? 802 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: Who is this? 803 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: And like meaning if I'm I'm if, I'm if I'm 804 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: Todd Michael Jordan, if she Sky Pippen, And then he's like, 805 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: is she a Hall of Fame player? I'm like she 806 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: would have been in the Hall of fame. I think 807 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: she fumbled the ball. She would have been, she is 808 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player. But I think she fumbled 809 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: the ball because you would have been and you wouldn't 810 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: have maybe wanted the whole go the whole way and 811 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: your life became better. But I'm saying you, I think wanted. 812 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: There was a moment, right. 813 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: You know you are an excellent you are an excellent housewife. 814 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: But I'm saying to you your fatal error was having 815 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: all It's like a it's like a wave cresting through 816 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: the off season. That's when the fucking mind goes crazy. 817 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: And you came in hot at that fashion show, not 818 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: talking to me all summer about you weren't there for Bobby, 819 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: and you saved it and you brought it in, but 820 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: I would it. But you know what would have resolved 821 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: this show. 822 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Let me say the biggest different of all where everything 823 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: would have changed had you done season four and not 824 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: gone on your own. 825 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: We would have made. 826 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: Up interesting the show. 827 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: That's why all the other shows, but. 828 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: It would have been We would have but it would 829 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: have gotten dirty, and it would have been for the 830 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: show because it's not your mind, because you can't be. 831 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: Real unless That's where I got fumed up because when 832 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: I went to Ramona's that day and got ambushed. The 833 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: reason why, and that was one like when people say, 834 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: what would you do differently? Okay, Well number one is 835 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: I would not I would have made up with you 836 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: on that sofa, but I wanted to make up with that. 837 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have made up with me for real, you 838 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: really felt the way you felt based on it. 839 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: I did know everything I did was real, right, but 840 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that now that I know better. Right 841 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: as a housewife, I would never have let that opportunity 842 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: to go. But I also didn't know that there's no okay, 843 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: your father passing away, you getting pregnant, and there was 844 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: one other thing that happened, was it moving or whatever. 845 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: It's like I could never come back out of that, 846 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: like I. 847 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Can never like you can't get in. I couldn't get it. 848 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: As much as you want us to do things together 849 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: now you're an outside, not just that. 850 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: And then when I went I remember when I found 851 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: out you were engaged. We were at a party like 852 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 3: a club or something. I remember too, and I wanted 853 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: I didn't know I was waiting for Bobby because I 854 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: was like again, but the ambush. Jill doesn't do well 855 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: with surprises. That's what made me a great housewife because 856 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: anytime you surprised me, I couldn't handle it. 857 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we were in a sport also, and you 858 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: had dropped the boat. No, I didn't. What do you 859 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: mean I knew, but I didn't know. 860 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: I'm saying I know, I knew, an I was just 861 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: waiting for Bobby to go over to congratulate you. But 862 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: again it was too late, Like if I had done 863 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: it ten minutes earlier, I would have been and then 864 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: the next day I'm sending you flowers, I'm doing everything. 865 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: It was too late. But also, let's be honest too, 866 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: Bravo was telling you, Bravo knew this was a bad idea, 867 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: and Bravo was saying, you need to make up with her. 868 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: This isn't gonna be good, bra But I tried to 869 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: explaining to people have the sausage ie, like this is 870 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: fucked up. This is why this is this White people. 871 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: By the way, that's not true. You know Andy says 872 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 3: that I told you to make up with Bethany. 873 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: That's not true. 874 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: Well, Andy told me to marry Jason. Here we go, No, no, 875 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: by the way, no, but that's not true. 876 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: I don't remember him ever saying to me until it 877 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: was too late, like November. We started filming, by the way, 878 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: like in August September, and we finished at the end 879 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: of December, So mid November he said to me how 880 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: to make up with Bethany. It was already too late. 881 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: It was after the same time. 882 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: Just said no. But I think that no. I also 883 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: think you were coming into the next season and you 884 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: had no You were coming into the fashion show season 885 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: with all this bubbling up about New York Magazine, and 886 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: I didn't give you the credit, and you walked in. 887 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: You came in hot, and they probably were like, just 888 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: like me and Carol, this should get resolved before the season. 889 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: They probably didn't want you to come in. They wanted 890 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Lucy and Ethel. 891 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: I think who they didn't. 892 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: But anyway, the point is is that I definitely made mistakes, 893 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: and I wanted to be there for you when you, 894 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: you know, got pregnant and all that stuff, and you 895 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: just want to let me in like that was it? 896 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: Why didn't you want to let me back in? 897 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: Every time I every time I did something it became public. 898 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: I sent a freaking gift basket for Bobby. It became public. 899 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: Everything that happened you then would later leak if you 900 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: didn't get the result you wanted, like if the next 901 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: week we weren't friends or made a sound. I don't 902 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: remind I know that, I know. I'm listening. 903 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm not arguing. 904 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: It's fine. It's not hostile. You're not arguing. It's just 905 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: arguing with you. But here's like, let's set the scene. 906 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: Something happens, we see each other. There's a little olive branch. 907 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: You said to me, I'm sorry that Dennis passed away, 908 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: or congratulations on your baby. We start talking. Then I 909 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: just kind of like, either blow you off or don't 910 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: go to your gift bag party or something I don't 911 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: want to do. And then it becomes you get a 912 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: little hurt. 913 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: You go. 914 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: People get hurt, and they go and they retaliate and 915 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: not intentionally, but someone asks you a question and you're 916 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: always honest, You're unfiltered, so you tell them and then 917 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking I gotta live the gift basket that 918 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: I sent to Bobby and the thing I just didn't want. 919 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: You know, Listen, this whole day is curated today here 920 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: and it's orchestrated. But I'm not into like you tomorrow, 921 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: and I know you wouldn't. There's no question. I am 922 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: totally trust you. I know your revolt. I think we've changed. 923 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: I know what we talked about on the plane, but 924 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: back then it felt like everything was a little bit 925 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: of converse, you know what. 926 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: I was a different person ten years ago. 927 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do. 928 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 3: That's why we're here now, absolutely, And I want you 929 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 3: to know, like even the last couple when you came 930 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 3: to my apartment with Bobby, you know, when Bobby died 931 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: and I said I'm not going to say anything to anyone. 932 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: I never did, and like that would have been something that, 933 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: of course, you know, to tell someone. I never told anybody, 934 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 3: only when it came out. 935 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: But there were a couple of things that you would 936 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: say later. When it came out. You were like, I 937 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: think she maybe just want no no. But that was 938 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: after it came out on the show. I was so devastated. 939 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: I had no idea that you were going, and I 940 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: remember that I was going. You were wearing this gorgeous 941 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: silver jacket, so I remember to the funeral. No, no, 942 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: you came to my apartments to pace with Britain. Okay, 943 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: I said to you, I'm not going to tell anybody 944 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: you were here like this means so much to me, 945 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: and my sister was there and now it was there. 946 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: And by the way you can hear I'm telling my flaws. 947 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it meant a lot to me too, 948 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: and I love Allan. We always had a close relationship, 949 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: and I wanted her to see Britain. I was so 950 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: excited when she started the Serfflage and I wanted to 951 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: be there and we can we're going to go through 952 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: that hole how that happened. But I wanted to be there, 953 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: And but that doesn't mean that tomorrow I want to 954 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: get married, like I'm a Paul and I were at 955 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: a story. 956 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: No, we didn't know. What I'm saying is that I 957 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 3: was shocked that it was on the show. I had 958 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 3: no idea that you were leaving me to go film, 959 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: that you were at my house. Oh god, I'm in 960 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 3: the fucking sewer. I had, Oh. 961 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well but you can't, so you can't can't. 962 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: But what do you mean, But I've been off the 963 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: show for years. I had no idea. 964 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, you just didn't know. 965 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: I didn't know you were filming that just filmed the funeral. 966 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. 967 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: Hold on a minute. 968 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: Can we talk about this? Yes, because I back up. 969 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: With them and give them in small bites there and 970 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: she knows, hold on small bites. Small Bikey Cohen texts me, 971 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: calls me. I'm in a nail salon in Aspen, says, 972 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: Bobby passed away. I loved Bobby. That is a side like, 973 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: not a side thing. 974 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: No, I believe it. 975 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: I know you did. 976 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: I quote him all the time, but Bobby one more. 977 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: That's it he was. 978 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: I loved Bobby, and he's here is a gentle soul. 979 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: Just be just be. 980 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. This is a sign 981 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: behind me. Just piece just Bobby. So Andy says to 982 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: me something about it, and I don't And and again 983 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: this is me being a thousand percent. 984 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: I know when I heard you want to show kind 985 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 3: of punt the ball to him when this came up, mh, Well, 986 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: because you aren't gonna lie, and you just said listen 987 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: and you answered the question Andy. 988 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh, because he was trying to make it like the show, 989 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: but I think he was making it like I knew 990 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: what was going on. No, but you were you did. 991 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: I think that we First of all, Bobby liked the show. 992 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: It was part of our experience. It's good content. It 993 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with you being a good 994 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: person loving you. 995 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: Wanted a film too. No, okay, let me tell you 996 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: what happened. Okay, Okay. 997 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: Someone who worked for me, I'm not gonna mention his name, 998 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: Andy tells me she Jill. 999 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: Says Bobby would have loved when he was hold On, 1000 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: let's get real. Andy said to me that when Bobby 1001 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: was in the cat in the in the in the hospital, 1002 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: or when he was sick, that you said to him, 1003 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: he would love to you to cover this or to 1004 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: see this or something like that he loved the show 1005 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: and that you wanted there to be cover ridge of 1006 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: like not meeting him being very sick but him Yeah, okay. 1007 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 2: And he tells me something that's right to do, something 1008 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: that is true. 1009 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: Okay. He said that it was an overall thing. 1010 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, that you but me. I'm gonna just tell 1011 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: you this, okay, but then you know this is the truth. 1012 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: Hold on. But then he said in the thing, I'm 1013 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: just telling you what he said. 1014 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: Then you can go. 1015 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: You and he said Jill said, you can bring the 1016 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: ca you could bring the cameras to the funeral. That's 1017 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: what he said to me. 1018 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 2: Not you said, okay, if that was true? 1019 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 1020 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 3: Would they need a release from me to forget my 1021 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: voice on camera? 1022 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: No? I know I have heard you say this. 1023 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: Would they need a release from me? 1024 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: Yes? 1025 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, do they have one? 1026 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I will tell you they do not 1027 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: because Barry Bernstein also says the same story. 1028 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 3: Andy and I had dinner with Barry. Barry, and you 1029 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 3: know what Barry said to me. I know the truth. 1030 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: When I asked her, I said, you know, they don't 1031 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 3: have a release on me. She goes, I know, I said, 1032 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: so why did they do it? You know what she 1033 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: said to me. They counted on you not suing. I 1034 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: believe you, but I so. I I tell you there's 1035 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: no release, then you have to know I didn't know. 1036 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 3: If I'm telling you there's no release, I don't have 1037 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: to know. But if you tell me that you didn't know, 1038 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: I'm gonna believe you. I don't care about it release, 1039 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: but I don't want you to know because I'm Allison. 1040 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: We don't need Allison. 1041 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 2: I love you. 1042 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: She wasn't even going to be down here like no, 1043 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: but she was at. 1044 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: The I don't need it. When I saw you, I 1045 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: saw you walking out of the funeral, in the funeral, 1046 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 3: in the procession. When I was walking out after we 1047 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: had the funeral, and I was oh, and I saw you. 1048 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 2: I died. 1049 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 1: I had no idea you were this Christ. That's brutal 1050 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: for me. 1051 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: Hold on, let me tell you what happened. Because I 1052 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: saw you, my heart dropped. I couldn't believe you were there. 1053 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: And you looked drop dead with this black hat and 1054 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: this black suit like and I was so happy, and 1055 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: I said, oh my god, I didn't know you were 1056 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 3: an aspen. 1057 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: I knew nothing right you were there, and I was 1058 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: so happy. Okay. 1059 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 3: Then I come downstairs and someone who works me, I 1060 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 3: say who or actually he didn't work for me then, 1061 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 3: but he was a friend, says to me, Beth, and 1062 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 3: he wants to talk to you before she leaves, and 1063 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 3: he grabs me and I walk over. 1064 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: Who does this? Somebody that works with the crew, someone. 1065 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: A friend of mine, he used to work for me. 1066 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. I okay, I'm telling you the truth, 1067 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 3: and I've got okay. Okay, So my sister was with me. 1068 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: Psychic Jen Jen was there. Ali was with me, and 1069 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 3: he was with me, and he says, Bethany wants to 1070 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: talk to you before she leaves. And I was so 1071 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: happy that you were there, and I came over. Now 1072 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 3: I did see cameras. I right there was TMZ. I 1073 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: had no I no, I didn't. 1074 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 2: Know who the cameras were. Oh, I wasn't on a mic. 1075 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: You want a mic? I didn't know that. 1076 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: Fascinating. 1077 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 3: So when we hugged and all that, and I'm wearing 1078 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 3: bug glasses. You have to know I'm a little vain. 1079 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 3: If I knew I was being filmed, I wouldn't have 1080 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: looked like that. I still would have had mad. 1081 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: So I literally I need a minute. I had need 1082 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: a minute. You need to know. 1083 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 1084 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: Okay, I literally, if if I believe you and I 1085 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: hand to hand to God, should Bobby give me a second? 1086 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: Because I first didn't want anything to do, and then 1087 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do with it, and then yes, 1088 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: I thought, she wants them there, and I know you 1089 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: and I thought and by the way, you weren't upset 1090 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: that it not. I didn't sue them because I wasn't 1091 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: the way they handled it. I'm going to get to 1092 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: how I really feel about that, and it's going to 1093 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: be fairly explosive and it's going to be a fairly 1094 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: big statement in a second, because I got to process that, 1095 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: because if I were home, I'd be like on a 1096 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: couch thinking I was I had no idea, because I 1097 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: what you're saying is I fucking ambushed a funeral for 1098 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: reality television. 1099 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 3: Sorry, that's what Ramona was saying. Is now, of course 1100 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: I had no idea the cameras were going to be there. 1101 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 3: Forget the other. Okay, I'm just saying. 1102 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: That nobody knew. 1103 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 3: I didn't know, right, Okay, sod By the way, you 1104 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: know when I found out when it aired, when the 1105 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 3: commercial started in January, and I saw myself and you 1106 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: on every single fucking commercial, but the entire season was 1107 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 3: me and you make. 1108 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 2: It enough, And I have no idea. 1109 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: It's disgusted. I love you. I don't need al. I 1110 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: love you. Stop. You need to know there hand to go. 1111 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: Stop with Ali. You're alone and with me, and that's it. 1112 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 1113 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: So because you I'm gonna lose my train of thought. 1114 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: So so that's disgusting. It was disgusting Okay, that's disgusting. 1115 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: That's literally the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. Now, 1116 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: just know that I don't know if I would have 1117 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: gone to the funeral if we weren't shooting it. I 1118 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I don't know what I was going 1119 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: to do enough, only because it was a spectacle and 1120 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: it would have been a thing and fair enough. I remember, 1121 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember. No, I'm saying it's the same thing 1122 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: we're saying this whole time. I don't know what not real, Okay, 1123 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: so I'm saying the truth. I don't know. But once 1124 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: it got going, I knew that it would be like 1125 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: so compelling in an amazing interesting moment. And again like 1126 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: seeing Allie, it was totally real when I saw you. 1127 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I loved Bobby and it was real. I 1128 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Just like I don't know that I wouldn't 1129 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: go to someone else's like me going to a funeral 1130 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,959 Speaker 1: that would have become a circus because I'm going there 1131 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily what I do. I would have gone to 1132 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: the Shiva, no question. 1133 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 3: I believe you when you think I would have thought, 1134 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 3: because I was okay with it. Had I known about it, 1135 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: I might have been okay, exactly, you might have done it, 1136 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 3: but they had no idea. And that's why there's no 1137 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: wa because nobody ever called me after. I didn't know 1138 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 3: about it till it aired, and Barras they counted on 1139 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 3: me not suing because that I'm, you know, as they say, 1140 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 3: thirsty to come back and this and that, which wasn't true. 1141 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 3: But I don't want to bite the hand that fed me. 1142 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 3: Brabo was good to me. I felt that they handled 1143 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 3: it respectfully. The fact that I didn't know or didn't 1144 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 3: know the audience saw something that was a beautiful moment. 1145 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: I was definitely taking advantage of, you know how, But 1146 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: because that's an ambush on me. If I show up 1147 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: to a funeral in a black hat and glasses and 1148 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: a dress and get out of the car and you say, 1149 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing here? How that would 1150 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: be like they that would be like the worst thing 1151 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: that like it's it's just a it's just a disaster. 1152 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 3: The whole thing is disgusting. 1153 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: And that could have gone that way because I didn't know, 1154 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: and I could have been disgusting and it's embarrassing. And 1155 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: it's why when I got together with Paul and he 1156 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: could see with a clear mind. He was like, what 1157 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing here? And the sewer and 1158 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: it's it's really disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. That's disgusting. And 1159 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: I apologized because it was a spectacle in a circus 1160 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: and yes you know, and yes there's the lines are blurred, 1161 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: But like, I want to. 1162 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 3: Back to why. So now you came to the Shiva 1163 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 3: call right not knowing that the funeral was filmed. 1164 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking you wanted us at the funeral. Now 1165 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: you're making a big deal that I was filming after 1166 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: the Shiva exactly who cause. 1167 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: I had no idea you filmed the thing. 1168 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 3: So now I'm like, wow, this is off the record, right, 1169 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 3: like we're going to keep this quiet. And you didn't 1170 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 3: say anything otherwise. And then when I saw the show, 1171 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 3: you were wearing the same silver jacket and I'm like, 1172 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 3: oh my god, she left my house and went to 1173 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 3: film after we just had this like real moment. 1174 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: So nothing's really I get where you're coming from one 1175 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent, and it was where to do and I 1176 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: but now you understand what I'm saying, why. 1177 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: And I'm happy that you know now what really happened 1178 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You don't always know. 1179 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 2: Think you know. 1180 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: I think you. I thought you wanted the funeral to 1181 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: be covered, and you did admit. 1182 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 3: That you want the funeral covered, but not without me 1183 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 3: knowing about it. 1184 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 2: Right, okay? 1185 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: But did you ask for them to caysk We asked 1186 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 3: them if there was I think the shiva. 1187 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: We wanted to have the girls come over. You're a shiver. 1188 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: The person who worked for you called them and said 1189 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: she would be open to. 1190 00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: The doing shiving. 1191 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: You know what happened. You want to know how horrible 1192 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: it is. Roddy fifty shades agree though a person saying 1193 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: you're welcome to the ship. 1194 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: The part is knowing and not knowing. I didn't know 1195 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 3: that you were there to film. I had no idea. 1196 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 3: I thought you were there for real because I didn't 1197 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 3: know the cameras were there. 1198 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: That is an ambush, right okay? Okay? 1199 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean is so crady, But let me talk about 1200 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: the shive. And this is what hurt me. 1201 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: Also is that I invited the girls over whether and 1202 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 3: they wanted to film it. I didn't care if they 1203 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 3: filmed it or not. They wanted to film it. And 1204 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 3: I said, well, you can't really film the real Shiver. 1205 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 3: That's not okay. It has to be on Friday after 1206 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 3: when they faced when they found out. Listen, when the 1207 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 3: girls found out that you filmed, because they didn't know 1208 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 3: you filmed either, by the way, miss Okay, your co 1209 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 3: stars and they told you this. They didn't know that 1210 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 3: you were bringing cameras to Bobby's funeral. 1211 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: When they found listen, who from them? 1212 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 2: Hold on? 1213 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 3: When they found out, you know what they said to Bravo, 1214 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 3: We're not going to Jills to shoot Shiv. 1215 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: And I was hurt because I'm like, and that's also 1216 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: not real. It's more bullshit. 1217 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 3: No, but it was okay when I said to Plavo, right, 1218 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 3: you're not on purpose. What I'm saying is so I 1219 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 3: wanted Bobby's funeral to be covered in some way that 1220 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 3: he passed, not the funeral. I wanted his passing to 1221 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 3: be recognized on the show, even though I was off 1222 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 3: the show and coming to pay their respects. 1223 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: That a SHIV call was the way to do it. 1224 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: Funeral life, and they told me they wouldn't do it, 1225 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 3: and they didn't tell me why. They just said that 1226 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 3: they didn't. They couldn't come on Friday period. That was 1227 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: it when it all happened and came out, and I called. 1228 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I. 1229 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 3: Would have liked the girls to come over on that 1230 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 3: Friday afternoon after real Shiv. 1231 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 2: It was a over to film. 1232 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 3: Just coming to pay their respects, to say that Bobby passed, 1233 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 3: how great he was, talk about memories, show a little 1234 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 3: bit of footage and the end. I wouldn't get paid. 1235 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 3: I didn't ask for any money ever. I just asked, 1236 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 3: wanted that covered. When they called me back, the producers said, 1237 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 3: the girls can't come. 1238 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: They're busy. 1239 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, this one can't come. Sonya can't come, Ramona 1240 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: can't come. 1241 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 1: I was hurt. 1242 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 3: It is what it is. Now fast forward I see 1243 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 3: the commercial of you and me and I'm like, what 1244 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 3: the fuck is this? 1245 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 1246 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: Then I see I call up. 1247 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 3: I don't remember the order, but somehow I got a 1248 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 3: hold of Ramona or Lawanne and they said, no, we 1249 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 3: weren't going to come because Bethany covered the funeral and 1250 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 3: we didn't know we would have. We were there, Jill, 1251 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 3: they were there, Ramona came, Lewanne came, Derenda came. They 1252 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 3: all came to the funeral. They weren't on the show 1253 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 3: at the funeral. They were mad that they didn't get 1254 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 3: recognized as showing up. 1255 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: By the way at the funeral. Okay, that's funny to 1256 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: you hearing this, No, I'm hearing this. No, it connects 1257 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: because also the girls later were making it like, oh, 1258 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: you you go to a you you you exploit the 1259 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: funeral on camera. 1260 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 3: They just were mad it wasn't there. They were mad 1261 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 3: they weren't there. So that's where they they. 1262 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 2: Punished. 1263 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to say me, And they wouldn't come 1264 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 3: respect Bobby because they were mad that you did it 1265 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 3: by yourself and didn't ask. 1266 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: But hold on, let me take them. Man. You believe 1267 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: all of this story and convoluted and confusing, and we 1268 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: don't want to get stay in the weeds too long. 1269 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: But I will say that I think it's the funniest 1270 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: that the girls got mad at me that they were 1271 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: playing a supporting role, not a leading role. That's the funeral. 1272 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 3: They wanted to be stars of the ship. Not all 1273 00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 3: of them were, by the way. 1274 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to I didn't know because they all 1275 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: stood on a big soapbox about that. I went to 1276 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: the funeral on cameras. Some of them did not all 1277 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 1: of them, so a soapbox, right, Derenda and Ramona did, yeah, exactly. Okay, 1278 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: all right, let's take a breath, just for a true seconds. Okay, okay, 1279 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: that's a lot, right, so let's take a breath. 1280 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 3: So what. 1281 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: Do you think it's like to have a friendship on 1282 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: the Housewives? 1283 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:25,439 Speaker 2: You know what? 1284 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 3: The New New Housewives aired last night, and then afterwards 1285 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 3: I watched Andy, I watch What Happens Live, and I 1286 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 3: could almost read Andy's mind. They're all together Kumbaya. And 1287 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 3: then at the very end, there was a little something 1288 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,399 Speaker 3: between two of the girls. One gave the other one 1289 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 3: a little bit of a bite and she was like pissed. 1290 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking I could read Andie's mind saying way 1291 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,479 Speaker 3: to the reunion, like you're all friends today every week? 1292 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: And you know what he said? How much do I 1293 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 3: have to pay you? I don't remember what he said, 1294 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 3: something about that. You know that promised me you're not 1295 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 3: going to call me when you don't like the edit, 1296 00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or when you don't like 1297 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 3: the way you look. And only one girl said she 1298 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't call Jennally. 1299 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this on the other show. 1300 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 3: I know but what my point? What was my point? 1301 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 3: My point is is can you be friends and be 1302 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 3: on the show. Well, we'll find out what the New 1303 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: New York Housewives. They're all best friends as of today. 1304 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 3: Let's see what happens. 1305 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: But they're not real best friends. Their best friends because 1306 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: they're on a show together. That's right. 1307 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 2: So that's what you're saying. 1308 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, no, can you sustain a friendship? 1309 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a friendship that you make on the show 1310 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 3: or a friendship that you had before. 1311 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 2: Either big difference. I think there's a difference. 1312 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: You think you can. I think it'd be hard to 1313 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: sustain any friendship on in a deep, deep way. 1314 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 3: I think if you're both willing, I think that you 1315 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 3: and I did for the first two years. I agree, 1316 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 3: and I think we could have done this. I think 1317 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 3: we could have done season three. But I think that 1318 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: a lot of things changed for you. Getting married. 1319 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: Has a Housewives friendship that has lasted from the beginning. 1320 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: This is from the other show. But I just actually 1321 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: want to know if we let me think about that 1322 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: and get back you kind of write that down. So 1323 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: let's tell the story about I have a vivid memory 1324 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: in the Hamptons of me negotiating our contracts. 1325 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 3: What was it you were a little bit wrong. Nope, 1326 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you where it was. You're ready, you're 1327 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 3: gonna do now. I'm gonna bring you back. You're ready. 1328 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 3: In front of Sex with the have a new men's 1329 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,439 Speaker 3: store on Main Street. Well, you were on the phone 1330 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 3: with Anti Cone literally negotiating for thousand dollars for the 1331 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 3: second season. 1332 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 2: Second season. 1333 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: No, we didn't get that much. A second. I'm gonna 1334 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: have been third. Yeah, you're right, because then okay. 1335 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 3: Yep, second season, and and they offered us yes, and 1336 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 3: you and I said, you said whatever you say, and 1337 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: you were right. But you I heard you talk about 1338 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 3: this recently. You were right on Bethany do it. It's 1339 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 3: up to you. But where it was. It was in 1340 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 3: front of saxon Main Street. 1341 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: I haven't had many I started in your closet. 1342 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 3: But I'm just telling you. I remember you on the phone, 1343 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: and you were so proud of yourself when we went 1344 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 3: to Main Street for lunch. 1345 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: That's hilarious because I got it done. You're saying, got 1346 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: it done right there? Got it? 1347 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 1348 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: You were so proud of yourself, and I was so 1349 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: proud of you. Okay, let's talk about the Well, first 1350 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: of all, how many true friendships have you really established 1351 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: on the housewives so you don't have to say who 1352 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,720 Speaker 1: they are? You can true friendships like lifelong, real friends 1353 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: that aren't like cluttered in some way or tainted in 1354 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: some way based on things that have happened. 1355 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I think anything, I think they're all fragile, okay, 1356 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: And I I think I've been able to sustain three 1357 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 3: or four five maybe, but at any point anything can break. 1358 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: It's not like your friends you've had for your whole 1359 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:20,959 Speaker 1: life's down. 1360 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 3: But I think any friendship is fragile, even the ones 1361 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 3: you've had your whole life. 1362 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: Interesting well especially I feel like post pandemic, it's and 1363 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: things have changed. We're all in our own minds, and 1364 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,760 Speaker 1: I just think that I think exactly. 1365 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 3: It's funny how it just happened to a friend of mine, 1366 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 3: you know, someone who's just had a really deep relationship 1367 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 3: with and it just took one bad day that they 1368 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 3: had and he went on the internet and said all 1369 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 3: these horrible things about her and like went public with it. 1370 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: It wasn't a public person and just. 1371 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 3: Really like there's no going back, Okay, So I think 1372 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 3: friendships are listen, marriages are fragile. 1373 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: Marriages are fragile, most things, most. 1374 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 3: Even parents and children that don't talk. I mean that 1375 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 3: wasn't about you. I'm thinking of someone else. Actually, yeah, 1376 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 3: I think relationships are fragile. I think the one with 1377 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 3: your child is the least fragile. I think that's the 1378 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 3: strongest bond. But it's also fragile. 1379 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's fragile too. It's scary. Let's talk 1380 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: about the Legacy negotiation, because I I have what I 1381 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: think happened. I was, I know, and I love listening 1382 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: to your show and listening to what you say, so 1383 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: I want to hear how close I am. What I 1384 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: think happened is you were an original house Wife. You 1385 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: were on for several seasons. Some people were going to 1386 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: be on Legacy that came later and haven't been on 1387 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: since the very beginning, and everyone's at different paygrids. When 1388 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: Jill and I started, it was called favored Nations and 1389 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: everybody got paid the same right, and we fucked that up. 1390 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: I fucked that up for everybody because we were We 1391 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: went on our own. You're like, I'm going with you. 1392 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: Remember the three blode they were going together. Oh yeah, 1393 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: they were going together and I was like, you're like, 1394 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm over here here. 1395 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 2: I was with you all the way right. 1396 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: So that so now there's it's a it's a Chinese 1397 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: a la carte. Men, you know what the salaries are. 1398 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: It's all over the place. Everybody gets different. So you 1399 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: were walking into what I perceive as a new show 1400 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,399 Speaker 1: with a collection of people that are casting a great show. 1401 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: You wanted to be paid what everybody else wanted to 1402 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: be paid, and they so you didn't want to come 1403 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: in where you were because that was a long time 1404 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 1: ago before people started getting real money, and they wanted 1405 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to be thinking that they weren't on a 1406 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: show that just got canceled and that they were still 1407 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: riding with the next season of the show and be 1408 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: where they were. And I think that everybody fucked it 1409 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: up because they should have met in the middle. So 1410 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: they should have come to the middle and you, you 1411 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: would have gotten probably more than you were even asking for. 1412 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 1: I think that they should have come down and you 1413 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,479 Speaker 1: should have all met in the middle. And I think 1414 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: that's why it got fucked up, because you were blamed 1415 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: for it. But I don't think it was really you. 1416 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 3: And you know what's so funny, it was my career. 1417 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 3: I was, well, not really, but like it's always it's 1418 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 3: very hypocritical, you know, the networks they are because you 1419 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 3: know they say that you know, you can't talk to 1420 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 3: the press, but then they do. You know, like who knew? 1421 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 3: Who blamed me for the negotiations breaking down? I think 1422 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 3: that come from didn't come from me? 1423 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: What really happened that? 1424 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 3: Who cares? Who know? But it does because then if 1425 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 3: I was like, if I talk to you about it 1426 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 3: right now, no no, But then if I told you 1427 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 3: about it now, it's like, oh, she's talking about it, Well, 1428 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 3: where did it start? They started talking about it? Not me? 1429 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: No, but it could have been one of the girls 1430 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: that said you messed it up. I think it was 1431 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: one of the girls. Who care? 1432 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 2: That's me? 1433 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't But it doesn't matter. Well, first of all, 1434 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 3: you know what was in my head. I'll tell you 1435 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: something when I saw you and we talked about me 1436 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 3: coming back on the show. 1437 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: And remember what you said? What did I say? What 1438 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: are you thinking? 1439 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: Don't do it? 1440 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 3: Of course? 1441 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 2: Would you say, do you remember what you said to me? 1442 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 2: I remember what you said to me. 1443 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't need it. I don't know. 1444 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 3: Tell me, don't do it. You don't need it. What 1445 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 3: do you need it for. It's not good for you. 1446 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: It's not but you. It's like it's like that crack 1447 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: that's bad for you, but you like want to look. 1448 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 3: But you know that's funny because there was one a 1449 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 3: housewife from another show called me thirsty, and that stuck 1450 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 3: with me in the sense of like, first of all, 1451 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 3: being thirsty in this certain way is not a bad thing, 1452 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 3: but the way, by the way, the way it was said, 1453 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: it was meant to be flattering. No, And it's like, 1454 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm the least thirsty. 1455 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: I know. 1456 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 3: I've got to have had this reputation, like I want 1457 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 3: to get back on the show. I want to get 1458 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 3: back on the show. Does anybody know me? Like if 1459 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 3: you ask my family, they'll tell you. It's like when 1460 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 3: I I I know, I don't do things for money. 1461 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 3: I do things first because I want to do it. 1462 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 3: Then it's money, right, But when I did the Housewives, 1463 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 3: I always said, and maybe it was a mistake that 1464 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 3: I didn't do it for the money, because clearly I didn't. Right, 1465 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 3: it was day one and we made no money. I 1466 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 3: did it because I wanted to do it. 1467 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: And you liked a little the fun. I did it 1468 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 1: because I wanted to do it. 1469 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 3: I wanted to get famous. I wanted to promote my brand. 1470 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to have a memory on footage of Bobby 1471 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 3: and look like he's gone now, but I still have 1472 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 3: him forever. 1473 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of it when in 1474 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: your marriage, you've been married to you and. 1475 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 3: I had the best time for the first two years exactly. 1476 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean we were loosey ethol. We had the best time, right. 1477 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 3: But now it's a different day, you know, And if 1478 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back on TV or do anything, 1479 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 3: it's not because I'm going to have fun, because clearly 1480 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: I have some issues with some of the housewives going 1481 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 3: into it. So it's got to be because I'm going 1482 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 3: to make money. You talk about precedence. So I had 1483 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 3: just on Ultimate Girl's Trip, and they paid me a 1484 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 3: certain amount per episode. 1485 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 2: I was being offered less than half for per episode. 1486 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: But that's different because it's a week to get a bang, 1487 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: and that's a little different. 1488 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 3: I'll just say, well, just to the money was if 1489 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 3: you everything's always episodic, you know, with these networks, it is. 1490 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: But they're they're cramming one week. 1491 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 3: No, no, this is not about the legacy week. This 1492 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 3: is what we're talking about back in January. 1493 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: Say we're going to do it. 1494 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: You can't compare the per episode to what you're getting 1495 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,439 Speaker 1: because they're getting a bigger bang for that one week. 1496 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: That's that's like explosive. It's a one week. It's not 1497 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: that I'm saying, we're not talking about that show. There's 1498 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: two legacies too. No, No, I know, I'm saying. 1499 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 3: Oh you mean, okay, you can't go by that as 1500 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 3: the precedent per episode necessarily. So then if we go 1501 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 3: back to even season four of what I made right, 1502 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 3: which I can still less than what I got back 1503 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 3: then twenty years ago. This is what I'm saying. Okay, 1504 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 3: this is what I'll said. So you if they wanted 1505 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 3: me on the show, the offer would have been right, 1506 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 3: and I believe that they never I believe that they. 1507 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 2: Didn't want absolutely not. 1508 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh so you didn't regret not doing it? 1509 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, okay, good. 1510 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 2: Why would I regret it? 1511 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: Because I thought maybe you overplayed your hand. 1512 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 3: No, I know you said that now, because I could 1513 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 3: have had any time called them up and said I'll 1514 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 3: take it. 1515 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, until. 1516 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: That, I didn't know that. 1517 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no no, So let's and I was. 1518 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 3: All I wanted was them to ask me back, and 1519 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 3: they did. 1520 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, and you have that. Did you feel that 1521 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: it was punitive that you didn't go on this recent. 1522 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 3: Yes, it's one hundred percent punitive. And the funny thing 1523 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 3: is is all I said was? And all I said 1524 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 3: was And first of all, I kept my mouth shut 1525 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 3: because I just kept my mouth shut. You know, everybody 1526 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 3: was talking about it. I was being blamed for it, 1527 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 3: and I didn't say a one fucking word. 1528 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: Good for you. 1529 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, until. 1530 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 3: It was already over and they canceled the show and 1531 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 3: they weren't doing it, and I was told to just 1532 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 3: stand by and wait and they were going to work 1533 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 3: on the offer, and they never did. And all I 1534 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 3: said publicly was I think it should be. Like I 1535 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 3: had told Luanne privately when we had dinner, I said, 1536 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 3: why don't they just do this as Ultimate Girl's Trip. 1537 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, it should be. 1538 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 3: We all have different lives, we're all in different places, 1539 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 3: we all live in different cities. 1540 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: It's not realistic for us to be that was your idea. 1541 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was my idea, and then she took it 1542 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 3: to Andy because Andy told me Luanne told her him 1543 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 3: that idea. 1544 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who took credit. That's irrelevant. The point 1545 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 2: is no. 1546 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: But that hurtsal. You weren't invited o idea. 1547 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Listen. 1548 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I wouldn't do it. That happened on The Handmaid's Tale, 1549 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: by the way, Serena had the idea for the fertility 1550 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: thing and they didn't include her, and I don't like it. Wait. Wait, 1551 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: I watched The Handmaids at the end when Serena wanted 1552 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: to do the fertility clinic in Gilead and they went 1553 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: over and they stole her idea and they did it 1554 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: without her. 1555 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Watch it, okay, we watch. 1556 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 3: So I was so when they came out and said 1557 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 3: that they were going to do Ultimate Girl's Trip legacy. 1558 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 3: I thought that was a great idea. But I have 1559 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 3: had and you know, I know you're friends with one 1560 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 3: of the girls. I'm not even going to mention her name, 1561 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 3: and I've had issues with her and it just wasn't 1562 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 3: worth it to me to It's okay for you to 1563 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 3: have disagreements and arguments with people, and you know, be 1564 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 3: able to clean it up. But I didn't feel that 1565 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 3: I could clean it up and I had too much 1566 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 3: to risk, I had too. 1567 01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: Much to create. So you do you feel that the 1568 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 1: arguments have changed significantly since when we were on the 1569 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: level of arguments and the way that people argue is 1570 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: different than when we were on. 1571 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think that jealousy comes into it. I think 1572 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 3: that some girls are in better places than others, and 1573 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 3: I think that people will just say and do anything 1574 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 3: to take someone else down because the jealousy. 1575 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: And also you're on those trips where everybody's been fired, 1576 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: so they have to claw their way back in that one. 1577 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 3: Yes, well, yes it could be. All I know is that. 1578 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 3: And my family really thought I was going to do 1579 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 3: legacy by the way. Everybody said You're going to do it, 1580 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 3: and I said, no, I'm not. 1581 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: You know, I don't. 1582 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. It's not good for me. 1583 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 3: I felt that on the place, smoking. 1584 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Overall as an energy, and this is I'm like in 1585 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: my mind thinking does she change, and like she kind 1586 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 1: of wants to do it because she misses the light 1587 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: a little and she wants the little hit. Yeah she's right, 1588 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,439 Speaker 1: but she wants to hit. She's like enticed by it's 1589 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's respectful. It's like an X that she 1590 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: like is like curious about, but like she doesn't really 1591 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: know if she wants to go back to that toxic relationship. 1592 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 2: It's not good for me. 1593 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 3: It's like, you want to go back to smoking, but 1594 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 3: you know you're gonna die exactly. 1595 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna die. I feel like it's like 1596 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: it's not about the money. 1597 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 3: No, But know what I'm saying is like, if you 1598 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 3: made me an offer that I can't refuse, Sure, I 1599 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 3: could be bought. I mean I could to a certain extent, 1600 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 3: so right now, but if I lose my whole brand, 1601 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 3: I lose it all. 1602 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: No, but do you still have a little bit of 1603 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: the curiosity and you like and you watch it? 1604 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm totally over it. 1605 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 3: Like you don't. I'll tell you why. I'm gonna tell 1606 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 3: you why. I just filmed a show called Goat on Amazon. 1607 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 2: Do you know that? 1608 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't mean anything. No, No, it's called Goat. 1609 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 3: It's called Greatest of All by the way, it's funny. 1610 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 3: It's the acronym's greatest of All Time reality star, which 1611 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 3: doesn't exist. So it's like a comedy and Daniel Tosh 1612 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 3: is the host who's this hysterical comedian, and there's fourteen 1613 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 3: reality stars. It's kind of like Big Brother. We all 1614 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 3: sleep in one house, so you're getting your those curious projects. 1615 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 3: The best time of my life. I met all the 1616 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 3: I was the oldest by far. They were like all 1617 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 3: my kids. I'm trying to help everybody, you know me. 1618 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm cooking every meal. I had the 1619 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 3: best time and the most. The biggest thing is I 1620 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 3: wanted to play the games. I don't know if you've 1621 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 3: ever watched Big Brother, but they have all these games, 1622 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 3: and I love games, and I love word games, and 1623 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 3: I play wordle every day. 1624 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 2: I love that stuff. 1625 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like aging out of it, Like at some 1626 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 3: point I can I play tennis. 1627 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: They played pickaball. This was like an opportunity for lifetime 1628 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 2: for me. 1629 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,479 Speaker 1: So and I had the best time. All the little 1630 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: things together that there is fun as doing it. You 1631 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: don't care if it's out. You just want to be 1632 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: in the action a little. 1633 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I The Housewives for me has come and passed. 1634 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 3: I loved I loved it when I did it. I'm 1635 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 3: happy for the new cast and in the biggest and 1636 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 3: best way. 1637 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I had it all. 1638 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean I had it, and I'm like aged out, 1639 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 3: you know, And now there's a new crop. It's a 1640 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 3: good thing, not a bad thing. It just keeps the 1641 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 3: show going on longer. I don't know why they're trying 1642 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 3: to pit the old against the new. I think it's 1643 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 3: not good, but we're going to get into that. I know, 1644 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 3: I know, I know, But anyway, I'm happy. I did 1645 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 3: feel fomo about the one week legacy, the legacy on it, 1646 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 3: because I felt that I gave the idea, at least 1647 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 3: I told everybody in the audience. I told people, well, 1648 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 3: it should be Favored Nations and it should be just 1649 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 3: a week and we should just have a good time, 1650 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 3: and it is what it is. And then they did 1651 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 3: it and didn't invite me, and I definitely know it 1652 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 3: was for spite because because I said no, they were 1653 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 3: mad at me. 1654 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 2: And it's okay. 1655 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 3: I do believe that if they wanted me to do 1656 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 3: the show, the offer would have been there, and maybe 1657 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 3: I would have done it because I would have felt 1658 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 3: like they really wanted me. But when they gave me 1659 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 3: that terrible offer and I found it insulted, and they 1660 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 3: offered Kelly. First of all, they said that it was 1661 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 3: based on how many years you were on the show. 1662 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 3: And then I found out Kelly was offered more than me. 1663 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 3: Now she was on a year less than me, So 1664 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 3: how is that possible. 1665 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: That's how you get into cattiness. That's what happens then. 1666 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 3: And then also that's the other thing. If everybody's making 1667 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 3: different money, you have a different level of importance, feeling, 1668 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 3: and like, I shouldn't feel less than anybody else. 1669 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 2: I helped start the show. 1670 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: You didn't feel valued, You felt right, and I don't. 1671 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 3: Need to do it for them. You know what I 1672 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 3: did say to someone to in the press, I said, 1673 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 3: how about this, if you pay every if everyone takes 1674 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 3: a dollar, I'll take a dollar. 1675 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 2: To do it. 1676 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: You just wanted to feel respected. 1677 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be unequal playing field because I 1678 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 3: am equal. And by the way, just because I haven't 1679 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 3: done Housewives for as many seasons doesn't mean I haven't 1680 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 3: done other television shows of the projects and made more 1681 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 3: money than all of them put together. 1682 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: So but it's irrelevantly, it's irrelevant. That's really funny. It's 1683 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: not your training for the Olympics. You ran one mile 1684 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 1: than twenty. It's like you're the housewives. 1685 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter whether I did for now seasons, 1686 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 3: I've done other things, same thing for you. By the 1687 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 3: way you left and did this and did that when 1688 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 3: you came back, did they count that you weren't a housewives? 1689 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 3: The fact that you had a talk show and everything 1690 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 3: else doesn't count. 1691 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: So that's now it is. 1692 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 3: But I have hold absolutely no resentment at all. I'm 1693 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 3: in a good place until today. Probably with the no 1694 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 3: I'm kidding, I don't know they're going to be leave 1695 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 3: a mark. 1696 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 2: But no, it's not okay. 1697 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 3: Because I've said that. I said it when I just 1698 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 3: did got when I got into it with Derinda. She 1699 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 3: came after me when we were filming Ultimate Girl's Trip, 1700 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 3: how I you know, brought cameras to the funeral and 1701 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. Came after me, and I literally 1702 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 3: got off from the table and said, I'm not coming 1703 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 3: back until someone tells me. 1704 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. I don't think anyone believed you, 1705 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: and I think they'll believe you after today. So it's 1706 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: probably good for you if you cared about anyone believing you. 1707 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 1: Don't I do care because you know why everybody said 1708 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that I used Bobby. 1709 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 3: You know that I used his death to promote myself, 1710 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 3: which is couldn't be complete opposite, Bethany. 1711 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 1: You're allowed to want to memorialize it in the way 1712 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: they want it. Fine, Okay. I also think that people 1713 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: who didn't believe it, and I think they'll believe it. 1714 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: I really believe do you believe it? Don't matter if 1715 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: you believe it. I don't care about everyone else. I believe. 1716 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking at you. 1717 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: I believe the story. I really believe the story. I 1718 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: really do. I want to get into Gary a little bit, 1719 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 1: but we're gonna. I want to know how we are 1720 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: in time. How how much time do you think we 1721 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: really have? So so we should go to an hour. 1722 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 2: It's nine o'clock. 1723 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Go to an hour. Okay, so we need fifteen more minutes. 1724 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: This is the fifty used the bat. Gary has to 1725 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: use the bathroom. I know this is live and Ana. 1726 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: We will not listen. The bathroom's here, but you want 1727 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: to go, it's right here. You'll be pining the bush out. 1728 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: Go in the bushes, Gary, go on the bushes to them. Wait, 1729 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: you're not paying in the bushes. We're on live and 1730 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: we're live and okay go on. Yes, by the way, 1731 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: do you know I can I tell people this what 1732 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: talk about Garret for two minutes because I know you 1733 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 1: want to get it out? No? 1734 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 3: No, I told Gary what you did, and now I 1735 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 3: do What did I do? Do you remember a story 1736 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 3: You told me that when you would go to the casino, 1737 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 3: you wanted to go so bad that you would literally 1738 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 3: like peeing a cup in the car. 1739 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: No, that was in the car. Oh yeah, hold out, 1740 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I do that with Gary. All right, talk Gary, audience. Listen. 1741 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 1: We have to stop sooner. I have to hold on. 1742 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: I just wanna make sure to miss anything. I know 1743 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: that your business. We'll talk about your business in house 1744 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: West University. We're gonna promote your business completely. It's all 1745 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you know about that respect you you present wanted I 1746 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: do this. The poster or the strike, we did that. 1747 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 1: What is take of the new show? We're doing that later. 1748 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: We're doing that later. We're doing that later. Rose and Thorne? 1749 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Who cares Rushmore blah blah blah. What did your parents 1750 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 1: say for what which about doing today? Yes, listen, Gloria 1751 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: is as and as my sister would saying. My sister 1752 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: is the grud told her in the family for me, 1753 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: and I am for her. But Lisa is kept texting 1754 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: me today how to go, how to go? And I 1755 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: said it didn't happen yet. 1756 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 2: I think they not. I don't want to say nervous. 1757 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: But what's the word cautiously optimistic? 1758 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,719 Speaker 2: Cautiously optimistic is a great. 1759 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,520 Speaker 1: Word, Okay, cautiously optimistic? 1760 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 2: Do can we tell people like that? 1761 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 3: You can actually, at some point in life resolva relationship. 1762 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I think that I want to get to me, that 1763 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 1: we're going to get into where do we go from? 1764 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna I just wanted to make sure there wasn't 1765 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: something that I really wanted to ask, you know, because 1766 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: I gave it a lot. I wanted to ask about Gary. 1767 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about you were talking earlier about 1768 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 1: the other non Ezembic who cares, No one cares. Let's 1769 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: just talk about us so we can do that later. 1770 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 2: Okay. 1771 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,600 Speaker 1: So one of my if I had a trepidation and 1772 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 1: after the plane, but this is all the reason. There's 1773 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 1: a lot going through my mind while we're talking, as 1774 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there is for you. It was a trepidation 1775 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: that like now, because we did that, we have to 1776 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 1: be best friends and I to go to the gift 1777 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: bag party and I have to be like where and 1778 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I and I but I but I, but I feel 1779 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: differently than I'm not saying I want to go to 1780 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: the gift bag party. I don't want to go to 1781 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: the gift bag party. 1782 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 2: But I don't take a person. Yeah, but I don't 1783 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 2: take that person. 1784 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like because last time we were on 1785 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 1: the plane and then you're like, if you want to 1786 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: do this, and here's my party July twenty first, and. 1787 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 2: I think, oh, yeah, I think it was too much. 1788 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 1: It's just I watch so so how I feel that 1789 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: was the trepidation. But through today, I just do feel 1790 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: a different energy. I first of all, really just thank 1791 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 1: you for like for trusting me. And I wanted before 1792 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: saying that. I'm assuming that you came and it could 1793 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 1: have been partial trust, partial curiosity, partial that this is 1794 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: going to be good for you. It's going to get 1795 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 1: a lot of publicity for both of us. This is 1796 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,679 Speaker 1: equally I'm. 1797 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 2: Not being everything you're saying. 1798 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's good for let's not be We're 1799 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 1: not both everything you said is true. 1800 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So do you trust do you trust me? 1801 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 2: Always trusted you. 1802 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 1: I said to Paul, I think she trust me, and 1803 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 1: do you believe me? 1804 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 3: Trusted you then, trusted trust you now and do you 1805 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 3: believe me one hundred believe you? 1806 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 1: And you fully put yourselves in my hand, myself and 1807 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: my hands to say, without one question you just. 1808 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 3: I didn't question you. I didn't ask to talk to you. 1809 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 3: I didn't say she has to call and invite me herself. 1810 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 3: I did nothing that maybe I would have said fifteen 1811 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 3: years ago and in the and. 1812 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm saying this for myself too. We can sometimes 1813 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: be I madeenance and in the past people have said 1814 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: you wanted this, you wanted that we have right. You 1815 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: were the reputation that Jill has with the people that 1816 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: booked this, were like, she, Why I have the reputation 1817 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: that you have today with the people that booked this 1818 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: is that you were an absolute pleasure. You were so 1819 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: excited you didn't tell anybody you were happy, and like 1820 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to rise to the occasion too. I wanted 1821 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 1: you to feel like a guest. I wanted you to 1822 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:39,799 Speaker 1: feel important. 1823 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 3: By the way, thank you for the beautiful flowers. Thank 1824 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,440 Speaker 3: you you were gorgeous. 1825 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: So I wanted you to feel safe and good and 1826 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: I want to resume a relationship like I want. I'm glad. 1827 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 2: I'm glad. 1828 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy seeing Paul City next to Gary, like I 1829 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,839 Speaker 1: you know, I will say that there was a relative 1830 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,879 Speaker 1: of my father's the other day that wanted to like connect, 1831 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 1: and they will bring up the temple and and like 1832 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: I get overwhelmed. I am an caged animal that has 1833 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 1: come from a very abusive life. So like I don't 1834 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 1: I want We're gonna be texting each other, but I 1835 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: don't want to like be in the housewives world. I 1836 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: don't want to know, Like I want to like go 1837 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: easy easy, go, like baby steps. But this is I 1838 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: say to Chris that you have walls. Yeah, I have 1839 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 1: a lot of walls and a lot of like I 1840 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: have a hard exterior. But this is totally genuine as 1841 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: evolve and I want it like I want. 1842 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to push it, and I think I 1843 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 3: did push in the past. I'm not going to push you. 1844 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Right, but I'm not fragile. And it's not like it's 1845 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 1: not we're on equal playing field. It's not like you're 1846 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 1: pushing me. I'm not gonna push it. Like this is 1847 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,520 Speaker 1: like a very nice. I'm excited. 1848 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 2: I smother. I definitely smothered. 1849 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 1: You do you want to want to make it right 1850 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: and fix it in two days with a bow and 1851 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 1: wrap it up run away? 1852 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 3: Because I have anxiety. You see that all comes from 1853 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 3: being anxious. Right, So now that I recognize it, I 1854 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 3: can I never put a word on it. 1855 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,919 Speaker 1: And you know what, high five because I'm so excited. 1856 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: We did We didn't go to a suit, we didn't 1857 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: go to a conference room. We didn't wait for someone 1858 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 1: to beg us with scraps to do this. We did 1859 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: it for nothing, you know, and for nothing and we're 1860 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 1: here talking on our terms. Yes, And like I said, 1861 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I if I called me and said we'll give you 1862 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars for this, it would I wouldn't 1863 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: be the same, like I called them. And we the 1864 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: YouTube series. We haven't made a diamond. We will eventually 1865 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: we make. It's doing very well. No, I mean it's 1866 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,720 Speaker 1: doing very well. But I'm saying I'm being transparent, like 1867 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,720 Speaker 1: it would cost a million dollars to get me to 1868 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,719 Speaker 1: do what I've done from Friday to today. 1869 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 2: And you can see. 1870 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 3: It like it's been by the way, like when I 1871 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 3: got here I mean there was like a gifting suite. 1872 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm not a get what's the wrong? 1873 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 3: A green room, a green room with food and every 1874 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 3: It made me feel like so welcome. I didn't at first. 1875 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 3: I was like when he says that, well, you're gonna 1876 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 3: go in this house, I'm like, oh am, I not 1877 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,679 Speaker 3: good enough to go in the main house. I thought 1878 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,480 Speaker 3: I was coming in your kitchen to do a podcast. 1879 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: I know that's amazing. Well, how so what do you think. 1880 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Did you feel ambush? Do you feel good? 1881 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, I feel so good. 1882 01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 3: I feel like you really really put a lot of 1883 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 3: detail in it, attention into this and love into this. 1884 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, there was absolutely more than I expected. Well, no, 1885 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: there was a lot of conversation because a we were 1886 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: I was like, and Paul was very respectful. He's like, 1887 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: does she know she's coming to film? I'm like no. 1888 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 1: And Chris Chris who's here, was like, she'll She'll be 1889 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 1: totally down for it. And if you were filming, I 1890 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 1: didn't know because we said video and audio. We said 1891 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 1: video YouTube, right, but no, it feels like you're on 1892 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: a television show here. Well, because it's good quality YouTube exactly, 1893 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 1: So I'm saying exactly but I wanted to do that professionally. 1894 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't do anything halfway news, Paul, We're doing it, 1895 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 1: We're doing it. So it kept leg So then I 1896 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, my assistant's going to meet you at 1897 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: the car, and you're gonna take her. Because I've been 1898 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: on talk shows, I've been on talk show where the 1899 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: person doesn't even come say hello. I wouldn't have come 1900 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: to say hello to you if I didn't know it 1901 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: was the right thing to do, because I wanted to 1902 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: do this all fresh. I know that I wanted you. 1903 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: That's question the process, right. I wanted you to come in. 1904 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 1: I wanted you to be greeted. I wanted the food. 1905 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 1: We've obsessed with the food for two days. I've been 1906 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: talking about the food and the fucking sandwiches and the 1907 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: lobster rolls. I've been obsessing for two days. I renovated 1908 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 1: my bar to be a living space. Gorgeous. 1909 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 3: Don't change it bad. 1910 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: It has been a lunatic running around this house like 1911 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 1: a crazy person for three days. So and you're still engaged. 1912 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 1: Oh no, you you don't know which. We went to ocean, Tim. 1913 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: We had to take dives in the ocean right before 1914 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: the monsoonn you found He's amazing. That's like, what makes 1915 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 1: me happy is that you found you. That's say thank 1916 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 1: you to Paul. Without Paul, this would never have happened. Now, 1917 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Pas would never have happened, by. 1918 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 3: The way, everybody, he's even better in person. He's good 1919 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 3: looking on you on Instagram, but he's better in person. 1920 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Right. 1921 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 3: Well. 1922 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 1: He is self deprecating because he thinks he is a 1923 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 1: big nose weirdo. 1924 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 2: That's what he says. 1925 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 1: And he's hot and handsome, and he's his mother. I 1926 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,640 Speaker 1: know his mother's amazing. Love you love his family, You 1927 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: love his father, Yes, his father's nice. 1928 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 2: Family. 1929 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Have your family now, Yeah, they're amazing. You would love 1930 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 1: his mother because she's so elegant and nice. But his 1931 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 1: father is like a male broad like his father's like 1932 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: his father is abroad. So we're gonna get into all 1933 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 1: the housewise and talk about your business, and we'll get 1934 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: Gary because we got to talk about Gary. I love Gary. 1935 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I liked Gary on the plane because Paul doesn't like 1936 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people like he. He likes people be like. 1937 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 3: He likes who he likes. 1938 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: And I said, you like people who are authentic to 1939 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: who they are, and like this guy is funny, self deprecating, 1940 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: but I could tell he's authentic, like he's you know, 1941 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 1: imperfect and not everything's gonna be perfect, but like Paul 1942 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: likes authentic, so I was like, you're gonna like him. 1943 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 1: I just have this feeling it behind it. So anyway, 1944 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: so I want to I'm glad you found your person. 1945 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: We are both different places. Ali is thirty Gary and 1946 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: you were married. 1947 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,719 Speaker 3: I think that makes it different for a lot of people. 1948 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,799 Speaker 3: You know, Ramona's got someone now and she said. 1949 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. We can't wait to we'll talk 1950 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: about that later. 1951 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 2: Oh that's just a different person. 1952 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I'm happy for her. 1953 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,799 Speaker 2: And that was the difference. 1954 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,679 Speaker 1: And when I heard about hell yeah, I was happy 1955 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: for her too. My first instinct was being happy for 1956 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 1: he and I've met the guy in my past, and 1957 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, yeah, I seem like I'm so happy 1958 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: fun I'm happy for her. 1959 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 2: But that changes the women. 1960 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 3: When the women are happy in their own life, they 1961 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,799 Speaker 3: don't have to be so bitter and angry about everything. 1962 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 3: That's fair, it's totally but but they don't need You 1963 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 3: don't need a person. 1964 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: You don't need a person. You just need to be 1965 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: settled and happy. 1966 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 3: You don't need a person. But if you want a 1967 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 3: person and don't have that, that's what makes you bitter 1968 01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 3: and angry. 1969 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: That's fair. But Boss, he's here, Cookie and Ginger have 1970 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:09,560 Speaker 1: passed away. Gary's here, Bobby has passed, Bobby and Dennis 1971 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 1: have have. 1972 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 3: Have left us. 1973 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 2: Dennis might still be here. 1974 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: Dennis might still be here through Gary because they look 1975 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot by Bobby. 1976 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 2: Bobby Garry used to work in the same building that 1977 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 2: Tennis lives. 1978 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 1: I know they left a lot of extreme tan is 1979 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 1: in the Blue Wood and Paul is here. It's a 1980 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: lot of changes. It's many years later, so I'm really happy. 1981 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 1: I want to took you and hi guys much