1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: And welcome into this week's ozone podcast. And this is 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: a familiar guest who we've talked to already as a rookie, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: which is unusual, but I get the idea of the 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars cornerback nickelback guy, Jarian Jones is a little bit 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: of an unusual guy for a rookie. First of all, 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this during the season, and we 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: talked a little bit on the walk up here the 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: difference between Jarian Jones in April and we talked and 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: now it strikes me that you're learning the league and 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: learning it fast. 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I think from for my time being here, 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: I definitely I've gotten more comfortable than was obviously when 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: I first got here, you know, but I just think 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: everybody did a good job. But you know, not trying 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: to change me, you know, just kind of letting me 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: be who I am. You know, obviously you know what 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like sometimes going in situations, it's sometimes you 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: got a critique, you know what I'm saying, the way 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: you do things, go about things, you know what I'm saying. 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: But I think you know what I'm saying, Everyone here 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: did a good job and embrace me, and you know 22 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, just letting me be. 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Me strikes me and rep you apologize. Even even talking 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: to you at first, even going through training camp, Uh, 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: you never seem to lack confidence. Were you hiding it well? 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Or were you always confident coming through a meeting? I 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: guess were you portraying yourself confident when you weren't or 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: were you always confident through the process. 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: No, I've always like I've always you know what I'm saying, 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: I've always been kind. Yeah, I've always been confident, you 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Uh, Like I always believe, like 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: you know I'm saying, ain't nobody come and save you? 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You got dig yourself about it. 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: Whatever, So it's always been like I always felt like 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: it was me versus like the world. You know what 37 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying, And I'm perfectly fine with going against anybody 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: or about anything that I believe in, you know what 39 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So like, it's always just been like, you 40 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I always got me. I need 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: nobody else to have me. 42 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: How is your Uh? 43 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: Overall, we'll get to the sack in a minute, because 44 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: the sack, that's a big deal for a corner. But overall, 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: how would you that's your season? Where are you at 46 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: in terms of where you want to be right now? 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of I got a 48 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: lot of things that I can you know what I'm saying. Obviously, 49 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: hone in on and come into your two better. But 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: that and that's also me being my biggest critic, you 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Me always being the hardest on myself, 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: you know. But I definitely feel like having a good 53 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: rookie years that My rookiear has been pretty good. You know, 54 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot, I've been putting a lot of 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 2: different situations within the games, you know. So, I mean, 56 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, I definite feel like I'm 57 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: having a good rookie year, you know. So I just 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: want to keep building on it, building on it, you 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Try to come back whenever the 60 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: season does and and make my sophomore year one of 61 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: the best of it. 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: This will be a topic I'm sure for you next 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: year too. But they always talk about the games slowing 64 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: down in your second year. Can you see how that 65 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: will be meaning starting to slow down now, But can 66 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: you see how much better you might be second year 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: just based on what you've learned right now? 68 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: You know? 69 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Definitely, I definitely could see it because in my rookie year, 70 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: through the weeks, like when we won two week two three, 71 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: it slowed down. Like I look back and I watched 72 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: like during about week I watched some games from like 73 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: week three, week four, and then I went and watched 74 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: some games from like we eight, nine, ten, and it 75 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: was just like, oh, I see the difference in how 76 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: I played, what I've learned, and how much it slowed down. 77 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: Now I know you just got out of open locker room. 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: So he talked a little bit about it. But walk 79 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: me through the sack. How many sacks have you had 80 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: in your overall career? 81 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: First of all, was that one of. 82 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: The first NAH When I was in college, I think 83 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: I had three or four sacks. I definitely was getting 84 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: to the coreer. I blitzed a lot more like when 85 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: I was in college. But it's my first one in 86 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: the league, and I think coach Coach had been trying 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: to get me going like blitzing. 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. A lot more and. 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: It's just the call just never lyned up, which looked 90 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: that we had got for me to be the one 91 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: in the blitz, you know what I'm saying. So we 92 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: just finally got the look and then line up perfect 93 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: with me being in the blitz. 94 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: And uh that was my first one of the games. 95 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: So I was like, and I had and I had 96 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: just got the PBu so I was like, and we 97 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: needed like a big play, right, So when I got 98 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: in the blitz, I was like, Off, I'm gonna get there. 99 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Now I take me through the move. I heard 100 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: you say in the locker room. You don't have that 101 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: many moves. 102 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't. 103 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: I ain't got I ain't got that many moves. But 104 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: like I know, like once I'm going, Like I'm a big, 105 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: like reactionary guy, so like when I get there, I 106 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: know exactly what I'm gonna do. You know, you have 107 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: a move in your head or whatever, but like all 108 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: they go out the window, like when it's bullets flying, 109 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like I just running. 110 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: That was that was my reaction, Like I send him 111 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: throw the arm out, and my reaction was to get 112 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: under it. 113 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Now, a game like that as a rookie. I've seen 114 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: a lot of veterans not have games like that. You 115 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: have two PPUs in the fourth quarter, you have a sack, 116 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: You've been gaining confidence. But what can a game like 117 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: that where you sort of make key plays key players 118 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: the game? What does that do in terms of telling you, Hey, 119 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I belong here, I can do this, and I can 120 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: keep doing it. 121 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: I've always felt like I belonged like I definitely always 122 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: felt like I belonged to But that. 123 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: Game, like within itself just kind of. 124 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Unless you know, like okay, like you definitely can like 125 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: are going to be one of those one definitely because 126 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm not really into it. I'm not in this to 127 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: kind of be like I don't want to be the 128 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: highest paid this. I'm not in it to be you 129 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not in it to 130 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: be uh like the like any of the small stuff, 131 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: like I want to be the best, like to do 132 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: it like I want to be. Like my goal was 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: never to get to the NFL, Like I knew that 134 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: was going to happen, like once I you know what 135 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying, I supposed to do Like as long as 136 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: I did, I was supposed to do. I was gonna 137 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: get to lead. My goal is like to be the best. 138 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: I want to be the best at not just nickel corner. 139 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Say that I want to be the best like dB 140 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: period like I want. I don't want to be claimed 141 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: as a he's a nickel like I want to be. 142 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: He is an asset like wherever he is on the defense, 143 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: we have to look for him to be above that. Yes, 144 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: that's what I want to be. 145 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: So my question, man, I make any sense in that regard, 146 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: But do you see yourself as a nickel or an 147 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: outside or is it more what you just told me 148 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: that I guess you see yourself as being able to 149 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: play no matter where they ask you to play. 150 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see myself as a piece, like I am 151 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: a piece of the defense. Like when they create the 152 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: X factors for man in mind should be like it 153 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: should just say different, right, like I could do anything. 154 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: That's those are the type of things I work. 155 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: I work on everything like I want to be the 156 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: best at everything. 157 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: Coaches players tell me over the years that nickel is 158 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: one of the more misunderstood positions outside because it really 159 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: is something getting there. Everybody considers outside corner like the 160 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: plays right, But Nickel has to be aware, has to 161 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: be a football player, meaning you have to know what's 162 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: going on in front of you, behind you, you have 163 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: to be aware of what's going on in the field. 164 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: It strikes me from watching you play that that's what 165 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: makes you very comfortable at Nickel, is that you're a 166 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: football player meaning awareness. You see guys who are athletes, 167 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: guys who are football players. Do you agree with that assessment? 168 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my best asset is just like instincts 169 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: and just playing fast. I think in Nickel, Okay, your 170 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: Nickel has to be you're one of your best cover guys, 171 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: has to be one of your best tackles. He has 172 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: to be one of your smartest guys in the defense. 173 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: He has no defense inside and that right, So I 174 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: think your Nickel blitz he has to be one like 175 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: your nickel is basically every position that you have on 176 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: defense in one person. That's basically what it is. You 177 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I think me being a 178 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: Nigglas just lets me put all of my talents like 179 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: on display, Like I was, I can go play corner, 180 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: like sure, I would love to go play corner, like 181 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: that's cool, But like I also want to go back 182 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: and play Nickel too, you know what I'm saying, Because 183 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: at Corner it's just like, are they gonna throw it 184 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: out there? They may throw it out there, they may 185 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: not throw it out there, or whatever it may be. 186 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: You might you might go ten players and not be 187 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: involved at all. But at Nickel, out of those ten plays, 188 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: six of them am involved in. 189 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. On the fourth that I'm not, 190 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: they ran the ball oppositways to the boundary or something 191 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: like that. 192 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: You can get bored on the outside. 193 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could definitely get bored on the outside. You 194 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: could go You literally can go first quart. 195 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: Second quarter, third quarter, not one ball through at you, 196 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: and get one ball through at you, and that's your 197 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: game right there, right don't I can't play like that? 198 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, even at three and ten. And I didn't mean 199 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: to bring up the record, but just thinking, I'm sitting 200 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: here talking to you, watching you play. You're really embracing this, 201 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: aren't you. You You're having fun with it no matter what's 202 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: going on elsewhere. 203 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: Am I reading that right? 204 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm definitely. 205 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm enjoying the process of what's going on. You know, 206 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: like we may be three and ten as a team 207 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: or whatever. But the challenge in the journey of trying 208 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: to turn it around and bring it back, that's what 209 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying because, you know what I'm saying, it's gonna 210 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: be hard. Like I get frustrated to days, you know 211 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, obvious to be three and ten, Like 212 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: we lose, and nobody likes to lose, you know what 213 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying, So I get frustrated. But like the challenge 214 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: of trying to turn it around. I think, like that's like, 215 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: that's what's kind of you know what I'm saying. 216 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: And it's been a month, so I hate to bring 217 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: it up. But the way you handle the Saquon play 218 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: was so impressive to me because as a young kid 219 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: coming into the league, he turns in this great play. 220 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's seen it. It's gonna be a highlight, and your. 221 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: Approach with is, hey, the guys, he's great. 222 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna do that to anybody. You just didn't let 223 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: it bother you, and you just kind of said, that's 224 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in this league. There was a maturity 225 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: about the way you handled it, and I guess you 226 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: just handled it. 227 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: Because you're the way you are. But I guess talking 228 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: through how you approach that. 229 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't. 230 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: A big deal for it. 231 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't really feel no way about it because 232 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm in the NFL and I feel like he's the league. 233 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm the league, you know what I'm saying. 234 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: So he made a play. 235 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: Hey, there's a reason he's here, and there's a reason 236 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: he is exactly who he is, you know. 237 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. 238 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: But there's a reason I'm exactly who I am. So 239 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: I can't let myself down about you know what I'm saying. 240 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: What he just did. He's who he is. 241 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: So in turn, I'm gonna come back and make my 242 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: play because I am who I am. So that's how 243 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: I thought about it. I mean, he just made a 244 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: play close to him, great play. I'm gonna make my players. 245 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: And it's kind of how you have to be here 246 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: to play defense in this league, right. 247 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: Especially dB, especially dB, you know, like the like it's 248 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: the offensive league, you know what I'm saying these days. 249 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: So I mean, to play dB, especially, you got to 250 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: have like short memory like you got. 251 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: He made a catchpoon next place it got to be 252 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: is what it is gotcha. 253 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: Now. 254 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: The final thing I bring up the fight, and the 255 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: reason I bring it up is it struck me that again, 256 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: you're the kind of guy who is not going to 257 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: stand on the sidelines in that situation. Uh, You're gonna 258 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: be involved with it. You're gonna be about your team. 259 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: And that's really I mean you obviously weren't the only 260 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: one to come off the bench, but it's just kind 261 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: of who you are, right. 262 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm definitely like a pro my guys 263 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: type of guy. You get what I'm saying, Like, I'm 264 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: always for my guys. You know what I'm saying. So 265 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, I stand by this. It's like 266 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm always for you. I'm always like once we got 267 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: that bond or connection like my teammates, like, I'm. 268 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: Always for you and I'm always be for you. 269 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: The only thing that could ever message I'm not listen 270 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: to nobody else want to come to my guys or 271 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: nobody outside. I don't listen to none of that. But 272 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: the only thing that can mess with me and your 273 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: bond is for you to do something green. 274 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: Right. 275 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: And when I say green is just y'all, no green. 276 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: Mean I'm fifty eight. 277 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Green, It's just kind of like like Green is just 278 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: kind of like when you do something kind of like 279 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: against what me and you got going on, you know 280 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like Green is like. 281 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta use it, you gotta green. Yeah. 282 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: But like I'm like a pro my guy type of 283 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: like type of persons, like once once I got bunds, 284 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: like we really locked in for. 285 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned it earlier, and it struck me. You want 286 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: to be around and part of the reason this thing 287 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: turns around, don't you. 288 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: That's something you're thinking about for sure. 289 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: Talk me through that. How much does that mean to you? 290 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: I mean a lot. 291 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: When I was at I went through something similar at 292 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: Florida State. When I was at Fort State. When I 293 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: first got to four State, we weren't really too high, you 294 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Everybody said what they had to say. 295 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: Everybody switched on this change on us, you know what 296 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But we just kept turning and kept turning 297 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: and kept going, you know what I'm saying. Then we 298 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: turned it around, you know. 299 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. 300 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: So like I really know what it felt like, you 301 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, to be from like from the bottom, 302 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: Like I'm from Mississippi, so like I don't know if 303 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: you ever been in Mississippi but a couple times. Yeah, 304 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: So you know, like I'm really from the dirty you 305 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So like I really know what 306 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: being down and I really mean you know what I'm saying, 307 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: We got something you. 308 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: Like the process of being the guy who posed up. 309 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Like we got something here, 310 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like, regardless of what 311 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: anybody got to say, or what anybody saying on whatever, 312 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: whatever it got to be. 313 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, I know what we 314 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: could be. You know what I'm saying. We know what 315 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: we could be. You know what I'm saying. 316 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: And it's on us to turn around, like it's gonna 317 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: be hard, Like life is hard, you know what I'm saying, 318 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: Just choose your hard. 319 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'd rather dis hard than 320 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 321 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: Something else is like I'm this is where I'm at. 322 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: I am with my feet off and I'm ready. 323 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I want to do somebody or you're getting the idea 324 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: that you know, fans the right me, they're starting to 325 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: connect with you a little bit. 326 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: You like. 327 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: You're trying to become a popular guy with the fans 328 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: and and sort of a symbol of what it might be. 329 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Are you sensing that at all? 330 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: Do you like that I don't have a social media 331 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: like I only have Instagram, Like I don't have foot 332 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: like that, you know what I'm saying, So I wouldn't know, 333 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying about that, But like if 334 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: they if the fans were rocking with me or were 335 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: weren't rock you can't let that be Like that won't 336 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: really like, yeah, that won't really affect me. But if 337 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: they are, Like you know what I'm saying, I love 338 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: the jazz duval, Like you know what I'm saying, where 339 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: you want to be, This is where I wanted to be, 340 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: Like I'm pro all of that, but if they weren't, 341 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: I would still be produ pro jazz pro, you know 342 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, pro every change, Like, like my mind 343 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: is to win. 344 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: Keep knocking down them blocks. 345 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 346 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: The final thing before we close up. We call it 347 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: the O zone five. We did it before. Uh, what 348 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: was your last binge watch? 349 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: If you have a binge watch, my last Ben's watch. 350 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: I've been watching Uh, ye'all probably won't know what this is, 351 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: but it's called South Central Baddies. 352 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: Okay, what's that on? 353 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Uh? 354 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: It's on now That's TV. It's like just a bunch 355 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: of like females on there and there and a lot 356 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: of they fight like they be fighting on the but 357 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: like I watched it because like they really be standing 358 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: on the moors on their principals and like like it's 359 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: more of like a respect thing, you know what I'm saying, 360 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: Like they be fighting on that and like it's another 361 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: show on Zeus. It's called Baddi's Midwest. I've been watching 362 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: that a lot too. 363 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: It's a lot of conflict, like a lot of conflict. 364 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm into like stuff like that. 365 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your pregame song? 366 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: My pre game song right now is gonna my soul? 367 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Kind of like to go out. 368 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: Everybody like to listen like Murder, Murder, Kill Kill music 369 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: before the game. Like I ain't really like I listened 370 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: to that during the week, like on game day, like 371 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: like on game that I like to like chill, like 372 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: I like to be vibing. 373 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: So okay, that song just kind of be having me 374 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: in my mood. 375 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: I got you sack or pick, oh pick. 376 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Every time at the DV. I'm gonna stay sack because 377 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: not many dvs getting sack. 378 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: Getting that all okay? Uh. 379 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: Sport other than football that you could have been good at. 380 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: I think I would have been a mean outfielder in baseball. 381 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: Okay, now you played some right, Nah. 382 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: Growing up, I ain't really play no. 383 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: Sports other than football and football. I tried to play basketball, 384 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: but it conflicted with football, so I was. 385 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: Like not playing basketball. 386 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: And like when I was super super super young, probably 387 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: like eight nine, I probably tried to go out and 388 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: play like T ball or something like that. I got 389 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: hitting the nose or the baseball. I was like, yeah, 390 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: it's over. 391 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: Your best football moment. 392 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: My best football moment from twenty three fourth State when 393 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: we won the AC championship. 394 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: So Joan, I knew I'd enjoy this. I think fans 395 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: are enjoying the chance to get to know you this year. 396 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Look forward to working with your future and thank you 397 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: for joining those on podcast as well. 398 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, appreciation, Thank you