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Speaker 3: Net Work at work. Good afternoon, everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is tesling figure Out no straight Shot No Chase

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Speaker 2: live on Twitter Audio. If you can do me a favor,

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure the volume you can hear

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Speaker 2: me well. Can somebody put a one hundred of thumbs up,

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Speaker 2: So just waiting to get some love from you guys

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Speaker 2: in the building. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: I see you.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to mar Sattles in the building, Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. We won't belong. This will be so that

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Speaker 2: you can catch again on Straight Shot No Chaser, the

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Speaker 2: podcast that is on the Black Effect podcast network. I

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Speaker 2: but I wanted to go over what I talked about

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Speaker 2: today on Fox Business Barney and Company. I was asked,

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Speaker 2: losing black votes, and to talk about reparations. And I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just attached they just attached the title and

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Speaker 2: say whatever. I think they said political analysts last night.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: But you could be right, you could be right wrong.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not a democratic strategist. I'm a political analyst.

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Speaker 2: I think they said that today, but sometimes at the

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Speaker 2: lower third. So when I'm on TV, I don't see

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Speaker 2: what they what they have on the lower third, I

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Speaker 2: don't even see the person I'm talking to.

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Speaker 3: So I now I'll go back and listen. But I

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Speaker 3: got interview.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, let me pull it up now, because

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Speaker 2: when I heard it said political analysts.

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Speaker 3: Now you might have saw at the bottom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at the bottom, at the bottom, okay, last night,

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Speaker 4: now from last night, because yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: So let's pull it up because we want to make

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Speaker 3: sure that we're being at Okay.

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Speaker 4: Okay, please do because that's what brought me over here

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Speaker 4: to ask you.

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Speaker 2: But guess what though, but even if what but let

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Speaker 2: me ask you this, even if if it's if I

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Speaker 2: was a Democrats, who was you coming up here to?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm just scared. Oh no.

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Speaker 4: All I was going to ask you was about Biden?

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Speaker 4: How you feel about Biden?

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Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna get in trouble or something,

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Speaker 3: So let's play it.

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Speaker 4: It's just I just like I said, I don't know you.

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Speaker 4: When I saw it, I was like, yeah, I really

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Speaker 4: don't know her. I didn't know she was a Democrat strategist.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so and I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It says where So the headline says, where is Bernie sad?

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Speaker 3: So let me give y'all media game. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: this is what I normally charged for.

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Speaker 2: The headline says, where's Bernie Sander's been the last three years?

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Speaker 3: Damn strategy.

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Speaker 2: So that's what the media likes to play that like

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Speaker 2: the pick and choose what they put on the headline,

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Speaker 2: which I have no control over. Just like when I

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Speaker 2: was telling Nahim, I was like, I don't have control

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Speaker 2: over like what they say at the end of the beginning,

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Speaker 2: but let me play live what he actually said when

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Speaker 2: I was actually on the air.

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Speaker 3: So let me play this right quick.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and check the lower thirty two if you don't mind, right.

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Speaker 1: Sure, so listen Democrats strategy.

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Speaker 3: Oh we did say democrats strategists? Yeah, yeah, sure did it.

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Speaker 3: I'm political analysts.

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Speaker 2: Fox likes to position, to show opposite side one or

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Speaker 2: the other, and so they tend to do that. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why because I'm not. I'm very clear that

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Speaker 2: I am in the I do lean more left, and

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Speaker 2: I am a strategist. I have Teslum figure Communications group,

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Speaker 2: so I do I do strategy and I've done strategy

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Speaker 2: for plenty of Democrats, so and I can see why

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Speaker 2: they would say that because I was actually Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 2: Racial Justice Director as well in twenty sixteen. So it's

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Speaker 2: not far fetch if they want to say democratic strategist.

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Speaker 2: But that's not how I introduced myself. And I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you brought it up so I could clear it up,

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Speaker 2: because I didn't even notice that he said that, especially

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Speaker 2: on that particular hit. Let's play it. On that particular hit,

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Speaker 2: I basically called out Bernie Sanders for fumbling the bag

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Speaker 2: or fumbling his people and letting all his people down.

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Speaker 2: So if they want to call it a Democrat strategist,

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Speaker 2: I guess I guess that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that's that's the only thing I had for you,

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Speaker 4: and shout out to you, says, but yeah, I'll start

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Speaker 4: following you more.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen to this part right quick. Let's listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Since we got you up.

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Speaker 1: You're saying Joe Biden hasn't been that progressive.

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Speaker 3: Dating on that.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, BERNIEY Sander, there's just to even be more clear,

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Speaker 2: he said that Joe Biden was going to be one

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Speaker 2: of the most progressive presidents of our time, and so

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Speaker 2: we're still waiting on that. So again, just to be

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Speaker 2: honest about it, a lot of people are disappointed in

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Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, Joe Biden hasn't been that progressive. Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden spent more money that any president ever opened up

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Speaker 1: the border.

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Speaker 2: No, not according to not according well, not according well

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Speaker 2: according to a conservative. Of course, of course, a conservatives

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Speaker 2: say that he would be a socialist. But according to

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Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders meter with his benchmark on what progression, on

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Speaker 2: what the progressive is, he has not been.

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Speaker 3: He is not Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 2: This is why the Bernie Sammers movement, this is why

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Speaker 2: the progressive movement backed away from Bernie Sanders when he

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Speaker 2: endorsed Joe Biden, because Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are

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Speaker 2: not the same on the left.

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Speaker 3: And so, and Joe Biden said at the gate he

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Speaker 3: was a moderate, he was.

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Speaker 2: Never going to be a soliate, and then I think

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Speaker 2: I went, but yeah, I also talked about Ernie Sanders,

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Speaker 2: how he's sold these people down the river, and so

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Speaker 2: I talked about that as well. So, yeah, thank you

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Speaker 2: for bringing that to my attention. It doesn't change, you know,

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Speaker 2: my position. But yeah, Fox will do that. They will

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Speaker 2: say Democrat strategists because I guess that's just what they

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Speaker 2: feel they need to have to be able to show

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Speaker 2: the other side. But for clarity for anybody in the room,

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Speaker 2: I do lean more left. I do the policies that

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Speaker 2: I support are more than left and on the right.

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Speaker 2: I don't walk around saying, hey, I'm a Democrat. I

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Speaker 2: am the state that I'm registered in. I'm a non

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Speaker 2: party affiliate, meaning I just go and I can vote

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Speaker 2: in any primere whether it be Republican or Democrat. But

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Speaker 2: if I wanted to say I was a Democrat strategist

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Speaker 2: effective today and the rest of my life, then I

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Speaker 2: absolutely can say it.

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Speaker 3: And it ain't nothing.

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Speaker 2: Nobody can do about it because the results are what

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Speaker 2: they are.

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Speaker 4: All right, shout out to you, and you know I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: No problem, honey, all right, any other questions, anybody else

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Speaker 2: got any other questions, because you know, y'all do say

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Speaker 2: that a lot. And I'm not saying that, brother saying it,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I know on this Twitter space, I

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Speaker 2: told you, I told you she was a Democrat, and

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Speaker 2: so if I was, what so if I find if you.

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Speaker 3: Find out I'm a crib for a power rule, like.

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Speaker 2: What's the next step, what's gonna happen after that? You're

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Speaker 2: gonna get p or what like? The clear the policies

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Speaker 2: that I find with that I support, as far as

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Speaker 2: racial justice is concerned, as far as the on the

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Speaker 2: judicial level is concerned, as social policies are concerned, they

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Speaker 2: are on the left.

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Speaker 3: Let's put that on the table.

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Speaker 2: If I was voting selfishly for myself and only concerned

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Speaker 2: with myself, then it probably will be for lower taxes,

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Speaker 2: which is more of the side of things, not conservative,

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Speaker 2: but the Republican side of things. Am my pro choice,

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Speaker 2: Yes I am, and it ain't fucking to do about it.

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Speaker 2: Do I think that everybody should have an abortion as

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Speaker 2: a way of birth control?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Do I think the least of these, the poor and

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Speaker 2: the middle class, are best served more than likely on

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Speaker 2: the left side.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Do I think a lot of the programs on

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Speaker 3: the left side cripple people? Yes?

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Speaker 2: If I vote want my own persons, would I probably

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Speaker 2: benefit more from voting as a Republican because I know

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Speaker 2: how to go get the guy in a for profit organization.

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Speaker 2: Yet all of those those things can be true. I

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Speaker 2: represent one or the other? Do I am I surrogant

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Speaker 2: for one of the other. No, the man that I

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Speaker 2: worked for, Bernie Sanders, I call that that whole movement

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Speaker 2: being racist as hell. So you're you'll never catch me

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Speaker 2: in a gotcha. I'm not saying that's what that brother did,

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Speaker 2: but I'm saying if I was, like, y'all can't make

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Speaker 2: me pick from Piru or Rolling Sixties, Like I know

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Speaker 2: what gang banging is for real life. So I did

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Speaker 2: not hear them say that, but if they did say that,

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Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with it. It's nothing that I need

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Speaker 2: to edit and go back. I damn show anty Republican strategists,

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Speaker 2: cause I don't work with Republicans. So that's that. What's

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Speaker 2: the next question, Elder Mac. You know, because y'all love thinking,

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Speaker 2: y'all called some nine saying that is what their brother did.

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Speaker 2: But that's typically what y'all do. Oh, I didn't know you,

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Speaker 2: and if I was, what it was, So what's happening?

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Speaker 2: What's happening, y'ah?

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Speaker 3: Something else?

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Speaker 2: So I have worked on over fifty campaigns on the local,

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Speaker 2: the state, and the federal level, and all of them

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Speaker 2: have been Democrat campaigns, except judicial judge campaigns because those

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Speaker 2: don't run a partisan or a lot of the city

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Speaker 2: commissioner campaigns because they're nonpartisan.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I am.

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Speaker 2: A strategist. I have over twenty years in the game.

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Speaker 2: I trained people. Many of you have come to my

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Speaker 2: training for the non non partisan training. But yeah, all

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Speaker 2: of my clients, with the exception of a few, have

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Speaker 2: been Democrats.

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Speaker 3: That's that.

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Speaker 2: So I guess I can we go ahead and say

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Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat strategist. I flipped Michigan for Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I was the only black person on the ground, So

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Speaker 2: that ain't strategy. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: So that's that.

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