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Speaker 1: Hey, Latino USA listener, Here's a podcast from our archives

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Speaker 1: from Futro Media and PRX. It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria

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Speaker 1: no Josa and today pump up the Jam. So, my

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Speaker 1: dear listener, if you're on Instagram like me and I'm

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Speaker 1: on it a lot, you know that there are lots

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Speaker 1: of accounts that focus on like food, or the arts,

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Speaker 1: or fashion, just about anything. Juida Lupe Rosalis runs two

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Speaker 1: Instagram accounts that have garnered a lot of attention and

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Speaker 1: that I personally have fallen in love with ever since

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Speaker 1: I discovered them. Terrana s and Rucas and Matt Points

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Speaker 1: focus on the fashion, the music, the entire vibe of

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties and nineties in Los Angeles. Both of

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Speaker 1: these accounts pay a lot of attention to the so

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Speaker 1: called party cruise of the time, groups of young people

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Speaker 1: who attended house parties together, sometimes even sharing a uniform.

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Speaker 1: While Lupe herself was part of those crews during her teens,

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Speaker 1: and she asks her followers to send in photographs of

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Speaker 1: themselves or of friends or loved ones from that time

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Speaker 1: in order to create a sort of living archive of

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Speaker 1: that moment. I sat down with Wadalupe and her collaborator

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Speaker 1: Eddie Druvalcava, who photographed the parties as a teenager, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about why party crews and their history mean

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Speaker 1: so much to them. Today we bring you that conversation.

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Speaker 1: I started off by asking why the Lupe a simple question,

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Speaker 1: what is a party grew?

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Speaker 2: It was a combination of boys and girls, and we

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Speaker 2: organized parties that were happening all over lay in backyards

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Speaker 2: and then also wear house parties. The party crew was

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Speaker 2: created by mostly teenagers from like thirteen fourteen through twenty

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Speaker 2: years old. You know, we were listening to like house

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Speaker 2: music and new wave and pretty much anything that we

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Speaker 2: could dance to. A lot of people saw that subculture

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Speaker 2: as almost like an alternative to gangs because people who

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Speaker 2: were creating these these party crews were people who were

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Speaker 2: almost looking for another way of identifying because let's say

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Speaker 2: their cousins or their brothers or sisters were in gangs.

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Speaker 1: What you were trying to do to not get into

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Speaker 1: a gang was you guys basically created your own kind

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Speaker 1: of gang, which was a crew, and it was about partying.

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Speaker 1: How did you create a party crew and what did

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Speaker 1: you guys do?

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Speaker 2: I think that there are many ways of getting into

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Speaker 2: a crew, but the most common way was someone would

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Speaker 2: initiate it or invite you to be in a cruise.

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Speaker 2: So how it happened for me was I was really

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Speaker 2: good friends with my friend Meadows. I think once we

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Speaker 2: were in high school. She asked me, Hey, does your

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Speaker 2: to her, you know, I said, yeah, sure, my mom

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Speaker 2: lets me go out. And then she was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and pick you up on Friday and

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Speaker 3: To a party.

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Speaker 2: And I remember she picked me up that Friday and

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Speaker 2: I opened the door and there are like twelve people

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Speaker 2: house music and they're all like yelling assignation. And I

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Speaker 2: remember being like, this is where I want to be,

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Speaker 1: So, Eddie, you photographed these parties and you went to them,

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Speaker 1: so I'm wondering if you can take me back to

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Speaker 1: those party crew days.

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Speaker 4: The parties would be on Fridays and Saturdays, and there

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Speaker 4: were at least three parties each night, and when that

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Speaker 4: first party would get broken up by the police, we'd

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Speaker 4: follow each other to the second party, and then the

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Speaker 4: party would get breaken up and by the end of

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Speaker 4: and it was about the hundred people. And then when

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Speaker 4: And then when that got broken up, we'd cruised down

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Speaker 4: with your boulevard, the traditional cruising spotting it was, and

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Speaker 4: thenless night I after that got done, I get back

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Speaker 1: All right, your favorite all time party cruise song would be, well,

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Speaker 1: you got a choice one, Oh my uncle, and.

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Speaker 3: What about that song?

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Speaker 1: What about that song?

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Speaker 4: It was like the song that got me excited and

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Speaker 4: dance with the girls up there. It was just something

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Speaker 4: about it that or James Brown is Dead is another

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Speaker 2: J Brown.

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Speaker 4: I've always been a little bit of a dancer myself,

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Speaker 4: so it made me want to dance. And that is

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Speaker 4: the pinnacle of that time in my life.

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Speaker 1: And whether look at what's your favorite old time big

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Speaker 2: Would say that the anthem from that time was follow Me.

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Speaker 2: That was a very very powerful song at that time.

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Speaker 2: We also have to remind ourselves that these parties were

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Speaker 2: happening in the midst of so much corruption, so much violence,

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Speaker 2: and that song pretty much highlights that we.

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Speaker 3: Must stop buying to achieve.

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Speaker 4: That was todd Anna Country, We shall all be.

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Speaker 2: This was around the Alley riots when that song came out.

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Speaker 3: Today, Mayor Tom Braddy urged everyone in Los Angeles to

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Speaker 3: remain home, to stay off the streets. It's a song

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Speaker 3: about peace and unity.

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Speaker 1: The La County Sheriff's dang unit a Rush, a seventeen

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Speaker 2: Pro plagued rapper and actor Tupac Shakur, is dead at

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Speaker 2: the age of twenty five, just about a week after

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Speaker 2: sustaining four bullet wounds last Saturday.

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Speaker 1: The initiative, which would deny schooling and other social services

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Speaker 2: That song to dance to in the midst of the

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Speaker 2: chaos that's going on. It's very very powerful.

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Speaker 1: A lot of young people just don't know what was

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Speaker 1: being worn. And that's a big part of your Instagram site.

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Speaker 1: Vetrana Sendruquez is that you are just actually captured. And

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Speaker 1: of course while you guys are talking, I'm looking through

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Speaker 1: the instagram and I'm just like, these are so cool,

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Speaker 1: But can you describe what were the women wearing?

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Speaker 2: You know, there's something I noticed through the work. It's

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Speaker 2: also that a lot of people that don't understand that

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Speaker 2: is that just because we were brown within eyebrows and

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Speaker 2: red lipstick doesn't mean that we were in a gang.

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Speaker 3: You know, that was the style back in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: So the women that were part of the party scene,

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Speaker 2: you know that the party crew subculture, we had different styles.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of women would wear baggy pants

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Speaker 2: hair was really like, you know, like with that moose

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was so much going on.

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Speaker 1: There was so much going on in this style, right exactly,

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Speaker 3: In this style.

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Speaker 4: In my senior year at Rollseawa High, school in Boy Heights.

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Speaker 4: The crews changed their look to something like James Dean,

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Speaker 4: and that's where you had the East Deally rebels were born.

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Speaker 1: Out of that, and the rebel spirit soars in this

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Speaker 1: group who called themselves the Wanderers.

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Speaker 2: They reached farms.

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Speaker 4: And names like Elvis Presley.

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Speaker 3: He inspired us, you know, the inspired us to put

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Speaker 3: you know, the Greece and.

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Speaker 4: K admire Marlon Brenda all about rebels. That was like

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Speaker 4: the look and everybody had the little pompador and their

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Speaker 4: to look kind of like the Outsiders.

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Speaker 2: And fil mighty James Dean.

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Speaker 4: Everybody liked them as a rebel and on the fifties

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we.

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Speaker 4: Kind of take it down now.

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Speaker 1: And what do you think it is about these particular photographs,

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Speaker 1: the ones that you choose, the ones that you curate,

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Speaker 1: that makes people feel so connected.

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Speaker 2: I think that even if it's someone sitting in the

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Speaker 2: like it marks a moment in time. People will recognize

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Speaker 2: the building, people will recognize the streets, people will recognize

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Speaker 2: what the person is wearing. Or I used to drink

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Speaker 2: that beer that doesn't exist anymore, you know, like ziemas

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Speaker 2: were so popular back in the day. Those don't really

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're you know, like there's all these drinks.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I haven't heard of

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'm blown away at this that I was

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Speaker 4: pictures of his like lost time almost this is proof

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about the photograph. So when you

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Speaker 1: were taking those photographs during the parties, were you thinking, look,

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Speaker 1: this is just fun for the moment and who knows?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was no Instagram. I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: There was no Twitter, there was no Facebook. You know,

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Speaker 1: we weren't all obsessed with photographing ourselves and each other.

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Speaker 1: So was it just like, oh, I'll just take some

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Speaker 1: now you get to look at it and it's like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you were really documenting a moment in history.

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Speaker 4: It was for fun. It was for fun and a

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Speaker 4: of them. And I think it was more about like

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Speaker 4: I'm getting cool points here, I'm getting published in this

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Speaker 4: parties for free, because they wanted to come out in

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Speaker 4: the magazine. And this style that was being published in

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Speaker 4: this magazine, which wasn't a brand or a branch of

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Speaker 4: Lowrider Magazine. It was being distributed all over southern California.

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Speaker 4: And so this style of people in this culture, you know,

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Speaker 4: you get rebels out in Orange County and like, how

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Speaker 4: did that happen? Is because they were following the trend

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Speaker 4: that we were setting in Bogaheit's East LA. So it

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Speaker 1: A favorite photograph of yours do you have? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got so many, but is there one in particular?

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Speaker 4: I have a throwback picture from nineteen ninety one with

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Speaker 4: my neighbor and our homies from the neighborhood. It's five

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Speaker 4: of us. We're on the stairway of Evergreen Cemetery Chapel.

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Speaker 4: And we did the update to that photo just six

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Speaker 4: months ago and now there's just two of us left.

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Speaker 4: These young men to my left died within two years

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Speaker 4: that were shot and killed. And then a gentleman to

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Speaker 4: he came out about three years ago, but he died

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Speaker 4: from hepatitis that was from using dirty needles for heroin

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Speaker 4: use in jail. So me and my neighbor Eric are

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Speaker 4: the last two left from that photo. There's so much

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Speaker 4: loss from that time frame where we were partying, and

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Speaker 4: there's this thing to call the Decade of Death from

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Speaker 4: eighty eight to ninety eight. That was over nearly a

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Speaker 4: thousand ganglated murders in La County alone for ten years.

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Speaker 4: So it was something that we experienced in the backyard

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Speaker 4: art and kind of what helped to stop that backyard

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Speaker 4: party sy because it just became a gang more for

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Speaker 1: Buadelupe, your Instagram account vitran as irukas when you started

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Speaker 1: this in twenty fifteen, was it just like, Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think I'll just post a couple of photographs and

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Speaker 3: I knew that I was hungry.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your work, Wade Lupin, for

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Speaker 1: your work, Eddie, and thank you so much for creating

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