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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I'll never told you a production of iHeartRadio, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another classic around our watch. Thing that we did

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Speaker 1: around the Last of Us was that twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember. It was a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: So don't ask me questions about days. I'm still.

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Speaker 1: It was really fun. Samantha, you were so kind and

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Speaker 1: hosting it at your place, and we did themed meals.

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Speaker 1: This second episode that we're doing right now that we

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Speaker 1: like in season one every episode was like, here's your

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Speaker 1: emotional heartbreaker, here's your like So it was very alternate,

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Speaker 1: But yes, Last of His Day is coming up, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I've got all my clothes laid out, all of

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Speaker 1: my Last of Us.

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Speaker 2: Clothes, low key cosplay.

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Speaker 1: My low key cosplay. I'm ready to go, So please

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Speaker 1: enjoy this classic episode.

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stefan

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Speaker 3: Never Told You, a production of iHeartRadio, and welcome to

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Speaker 3: our very special unsponsored by HBO.

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Speaker 1: Max mini series. Yes, I'm outraged. I'm outraged by the whole.

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Speaker 2: You know, like I said before, we'll make it our own.

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Speaker 1: Then it's true. It's true you share. You were very

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Speaker 1: supportive in this, and I love you for it. Thank

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Speaker 2: I gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So this is our episode two of our nine

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Speaker 1: part episode on the Last of Us show, which is

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Speaker 1: on HBO Max. So Samantha and I are planning on

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Speaker 1: watching most, if not all of them together and then

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Speaker 1: recording our reactions recapped thoughts about the episode that just aired.

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Speaker 1: There are nine episodes, so right now we're on episode two,

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Speaker 1: which is called Infected, so there will be spoilers for

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Speaker 1: the first two episodes. Samantha's gonna help me rein it in. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you've miraculously avoid spoilers for the whole game, two games right,

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Speaker 1: I'm here for it. A lot of my friends have

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Speaker 1: contacted me and said, basically like, don't talk to me

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Speaker 2: So you do. But if you don't understand right, like

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Speaker 2: you've never seen it, you're not going to really put

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, That's what several of my friends have said,

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Speaker 1: including Christina, who is going on this journey with us.

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Speaker 1: Producer Christina who is watching along and somehow didn't take

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Speaker 1: also thanks to super producer Christina, because for these nine

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Speaker 1: weeks that this is airing, we're going to replace my

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours, which come out every other week, with these,

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. So it's a little bit more work for Christina.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you very much. We will go

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Speaker 1: after this is over, we'll be going back to our

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Speaker 2: Program May, but there's something else we're going to jump

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Speaker 2: into We love change and we love trying anything new

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Speaker 1: We do And if you know listening to this, you

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Speaker 1: let us know. We are on TikTok now And one

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Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but do you do

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Speaker 2: and you were like so tired but over excited. That

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a like Hawaiian style retro surf shirt.

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Speaker 1: I usually wearing a dragon con and people recognize it.

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Speaker 2: It's your low key cosplay.

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Speaker 1: I yes, as you said, and I think you're correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm going to be talking about Oh, we're

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. You're gonna So we

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Speaker 2: this episode was huge. Annie has a lot of predictions.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to give those predictions because most likely

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Speaker 2: a quick recap before we begin. We see that Ellie, Joel,

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Speaker 2: a whole theme throughout as well. So I feel like

432
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: it was really on point in getting her established as

433
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: this I want to be tough, but I'm very curious

434
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: and I'm still a.

435
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: Child right right, because she's never been outside, like she

436
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: said that in the first episode, and it almost like

437
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: gave them away because she's never been outside the Quarantine

438
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: Zone the QZ, and so like the scenery resolved. Yes,

439
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: as you said spot on in the game, but her

440
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of in wonderment of these buildings that have collapsed

441
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: in like seeing this in this light.

442
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 2: And y'all when that scenery popped up, Annie and then

443
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: the prints went, oh my god, Like that was the

444
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: reaction of the scenery because it was so on point

445
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: and it was so grand and it's filming and the

446
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: way they filmed it. But like, yes, the reaction was.

447
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: Yes. So many people texted me about the museum because

448
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: they were like, this is exactly Oh my god, I'm

449
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: getting like chills. Yes, I know. Also, I'm not going

450
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: to say much more about this, but Ellie's knife is important.

451
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: That probably doesn't surprise you, but her doing the little

452
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: tricks with her knife.

453
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes. Yeah, remember, yeah.

454
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: A little little peak I kent. Yes, I didn't think

455
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: it was interesting when they go through the hotel and

456
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: all those discordant notes happened on piano when Joel and

457
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: Ellie are trying to like connect her communicate, because I

458
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: feel like they are He's starting to see the world

459
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: through her eyes a little bit, because she has a

460
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: couple of moments where he's just taken it back by

461
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: her view of like when she's like, oh, look at this,

462
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: you can't deny this view, and he's kind of like

463
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: what because he.

464
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't her he said, he's weird.

465
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but it's like they're trying to find

466
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: some common ground and connect but it's not there yet. Yes,

467
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: which brings us to Tests.

468
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 2: Oh Tess tests ri ip or one out for her.

469
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. They did change her story quite

470
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: a bit. And it's funny because I've heard, you know,

471
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: gamers is going to be gamers and they're like to

472
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: be mad about things, but people were kind of mad

473
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: about it. I thought it was pretty good. I like,

474
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I always liked about Tests. Unfortunately that with so many

475
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: characters in the in these games, you don't know them

476
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: for very long or you don't get to know them

477
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: in depth, and it doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean they

478
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: die or anything. It's just kind of the nature of

479
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: the game. But I always loved about her that she

480
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: was she was like Joel, but as you said in

481
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: the last one, she's much more kind of like even killed,

482
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: cool headed, responsible, And so when this thing happens with Ellie,

483
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: she is the one in the game and in the

484
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: show who's like, Okay, we've made this decision and kind

485
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: of makes an effort to maybe not bond with Ellie

486
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: but like get to know Ellie, like talks to her,

487
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: answers her questions in a way that Joel does not.

488
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: Joel's very like.

489
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: Right, right, and she and she talks about the whole

490
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: mall scene and she's a man, you got some balls

491
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: on you, like that's what she says to Ellie, which

492
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: Ellie text is a compliment obviously, yes, But that level

493
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: of non fear of Ellie, which is obviously changing as

494
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: she is growing and seeing more and more tests, admires

495
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: and obviously sees that as a strength for her, but

496
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: also sees her as a child China needing to protect her,

497
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: right Yeah.

498
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: And she is very protective of her. She also has

499
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: that scene where she's like, I'm going to talk to

500
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: you like an adult, but is protective and I think

501
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: pretty quickly has a respect for her, like a they bond.

502
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: They do bond, and Ellie really respected tests and tests

503
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: dying does not leave her quickly, which is one of

504
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: the things I do love about the game is like

505
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: those things linger, uh, you can see the trauma throughout.

506
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: That is also a theme as a reminder.

507
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: One of the things I do enjoy about Test's character

508
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: as well is that she when she realizes she's going

509
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: to die, she's the one that's like, this could be real,

510
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Like this Ellie could be the cure, she could be

511
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: the vaccine. We've done some terrible things. This might be

512
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: like a way for redemption or something. But she uses

513
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: like whereas I think Joel would very much be like,

514
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: well it's over, I give up, she was like, no,

515
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: we have to see this through. We have to see

516
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: this through, and kind of offering that leadership and using

517
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: that like still having hope, even though from what we've

518
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: seen of her largely she's kind of like, yeah, we're people, Joel,

519
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: We're not good people, right.

520
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: She does say set things right, right.

521
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: She does. She is more in the scene versus what

522
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: happens in the game. She is more like the lines

523
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: safe who you can save that's unique to the show.

524
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: She's much more like, you know, we got to see

525
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: this as far as it can go. If you care

526
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: about me at all, you will do this for me,

527
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: this last thing. And she does have like some of

528
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: my favorite lines that they kept in there. I like

529
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: how she reveals the bite and says oops. Right. This

530
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: also was very much change how she died versus in

531
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: the game versus the show. It was pretty changed, and

532
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: this was one of the things where we saw, like

533
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: the kiss, the very disturbing kiss. That was one of

534
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: the big things they changed was how it spreads and

535
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: how they communicate. So as you said, like in the game,

536
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about like tendrils. Sometimes the

537
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: they're called runners, the regular zombies will swarm, but that's

538
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: more because if they hear sound, they will come. This

539
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: brings us to the clickers. Of the clickers are so

540
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: terrifying in the game.

541
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: There was audible screaming.

542
00:30:52,160 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I screamed aloud the audience. I screwed aloud twice. It

543
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: was so well done. But it's so scary. But one

544
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: of the most diabolical things about this game is when

545
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: you first meet a clicker number one. They're not easy

546
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: to kill, and they can hear you, like if you

547
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: step on glass, if you move too quickly, they can

548
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: hear you. But runners and so called regular zombies can

549
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: see you. So you've got a problem because one group

550
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: can see you but can't hear too well. And the

551
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: other ones can hear everything you do but can't see you.

552
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: It's strategy, you're gonna be smart, true. But they were

553
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: very well done. The sound was excellent, so one point

554
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: scary scary.

555
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: Very m it was scary, like it made me jump.

556
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: I didn't scream, but it made me jump for sure.

557
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And the costuming was great.

558
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: The movements of the actors were right there with the

559
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: movements of the game as well, like the hiding and

560
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: the ducking and the crawling and the rolling right. Yes,

561
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: it was as in the game when people play. M h.

562
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: This is also why I can't play games. I don't

563
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: know how to do all that, Like what are these buttons?

564
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. The scene where like Joel is like

565
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: trying to like hold his flashlight in between his like

566
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: his chin and his shoulder and he's trying to get

567
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the AMMO and the gun and the camera moves and

568
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: the clickers right next to him. So good, because it's true,

569
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: if you could be quiet, they could be right there.

570
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: You just have to hope they don't accidentally turn your

571
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: way anyway. But yeah, I people were very excited about

572
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: it and looking forward to it. If you've played the

573
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: game and that was one of the that's one of

574
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: the fun things. It's like, if you haven't played it,

575
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: you don't know. They're called clickers, and I thought they

576
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: did such a good job of when you see Joel

577
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: and Tessa's fear about, oh, there might be clickers in

578
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: this building spot on spot on. I also loved Ellie's

579
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of joking line where she's like, so there aren't

580
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: herege zombies that throws four packets at you, and Tessa's like, god,

581
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: I hope not, and then she says, and there aren't

582
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: ones that have their heads split open and can hear

583
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: like bats. And they go both go like woa, yes, okay.

584
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: So in the final wrap up of this, I did

585
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: want to read we got some We've gotten some messages

586
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: about this, so thank you, you love it, and I want

587
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: to read this one from Steph who wrote, greetings from

588
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Edmonton or as you know it, post Apocalypse of Boston.

589
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: I just watched episode two of the Last of Us,

590
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: which was partly filmed in Edmonton. I never expected the

591
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: city to be so recognizable. The first outdoor and scene

592
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: was shot in front of my current workplace. My building

593
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: is hidden by a pile of rubble I remember watching

594
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: them film it last year, and they eventually walked past

595
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: my old building on the way to the State House

596
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: aka Alberta Legislature. If you're wondering, the short way between

597
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: these buildings would take about ten minutes to walk. My

598
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: partner and I got such a kick pointing out local

599
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: landmarks as we watched it. If you are ever in town,

600
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: the Legislature is worth a visit. It is on the

601
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: bank of a river surrounded by a park. It's actually

602
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: beautiful when it's not covered in zombies. That's great, I

603
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah.

604
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've had a lot of stuff filmed in Atlanta,

605
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: and one of the fun things is to see if

606
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: you recognize and know exactly where they're located. I'm like, oh,

607
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: that's that rich and that's that lane. Yep, it is

608
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: really so I can only imagine. Yes, yes, it did

609
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: look beautiful minus the zombies. Yeah, the view was lovely.

610
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: There were so many scenes that I of course was like,

611
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: there it is it's not.

612
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, So here's my non spoiler things to

613
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: look forward to. One would be the Bloater Bloaters.

614
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: And if you watch the after scene with all of

615
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: the directors, you may have actually understand what we're talking about.

616
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: To my dude, Uh, now there is we're gonna get.

617
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I think we're going to be introduced to some queer

618
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: storylines in the next one. I think the next one

619
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: is going to be amazing. And I also think it's

620
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest departure from the game actual gameplay, right,

621
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: because that story does exist, but it's easily.

622
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: You have to do the you have to do the extras.

623
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: I know during your playthrough with my partner, you made

624
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: him go through all that extra I did. Yeah, go

625
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: to this building and go to that building and turn

626
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: that note over. And by the way, in the game,

627
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: there's an O to Supernatural Weird.

628
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: There is, Yes, there is. But yeah, I'm, as I

629
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: told you, kind of like perhaps very very nerdedly. It's like,

630
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch something that I've loved and

631
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: to see it adapted so well and to have these

632
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: kind of new things in it where I'm like, oh,

633
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm really loving, like I said, these cold opens, I'm

634
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: loving the changes that they did. But the acting is amazing,

635
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: the scenery is amazing, the clickers so good, so good, yeah,

636
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: so good. Yes, So I can't I can't emphasize this enough.

637
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: We are not sponsored by that, just to clarify once again, but.

638
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that we don't love it, and it

639
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean we'll ever stop talking about it, because Annie

640
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: will never stop. You can't make that.

641
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't stop. I have so many thoughts

642
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: and I think the next ones. I'm so excited.

643
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, So get that popcorn ready.

644
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Yes, thanks for sharing this with me, Samantha, and love

645
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: it you listeners as well. As I said, I hope.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of people have written in, including Steph who said

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Speaker 1: I've never played the game, but I enjoyed listening to

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Speaker 1: you talk about it, and I'm enjoying the show, so

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Speaker 1: I hope that even if you're not super into it,

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Speaker 1: you can enjoy this a little bit. But yes, we

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Speaker 1: will see you next time. As I said, we'll get

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Speaker 1: back to regularly scheduled programming March mid March after the finale. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: but in the meantime, you can email us at Stuffy

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at momsa podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps a video of this very episode at stuff I've

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Speaker 1: never told you. Thank you to Joey for helping us

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Speaker 1: with that amazing and thanks as always to our super

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