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Speaker 1: Thank you, Aaron. Steve. How are you today? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: How are you? Yeah? Doing all right? Um? Sort of

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Speaker 1: about I want to ask you just about, um, defending

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Speaker 1: they had some success on that, just like they did

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Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff. We just gotta get back

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Speaker 1: Is there anything specific, Steve, that stands out to you

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Speaker 1: That was the That was the biggest issue all day.

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Speaker 1: I guess about their attack, you know, the their offense

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Speaker 1: a lot to learn, um about this team. You know,

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Speaker 1: last week. So we'll try and do a lot of

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Speaker 1: things better this week. See you on Sunday. Be a

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Speaker 1: long week waiting for that. And then one other quick

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Speaker 1: rest of their offense. They got a good complimentary offense,

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Speaker 1: run game, pass game, inside, outside, old line skill players.

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Speaker 1: So a lot to get ready for, but looking forward

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll go to Henry McKennon, and I'll remind

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Henry, Hey, Steve, Good afternoon. I wondered, I

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Speaker 1: know last year that Adrian Phillips and Kyle Dugger did

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Speaker 1: I can. I just like to like to coach good

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Speaker 1: from from what I get from those guys. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I always try and develop relationships with different players on

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Speaker 1: the team. M guys who come back to the team,

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Speaker 1: young guys, on the team. Um, it's a fun part

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Speaker 1: about football is there's a lot of different personalities out there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just I just enjoy that when I got my

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Speaker 1: free time. Thanks Steve, I appreciate your openness today. It's awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I like talking about that more than Mike's

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Speaker 1: problem questions. Recording stopped