WEBVTT - BE BE BE MY LOVE (S3, E6 "Castles in the Sand") 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.840 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello everybody, welcome 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.600 to another episode of nine O two one O m G. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.920 My favorite girls. Hi, we have Amy with us again 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.279 this week. We're so lucky. Amy. How is it that 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.640 you are this big, busy producer? I know, I love 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.240 being here. Thank you for you just always come back 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.240 for us. We love it. I'm so happy. I look 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.199 like hell today, you look great and you've got I 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.640 choose me Jents March so hello, so appropriate, Jenny. You 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.639 need to bring this back. You guys want to talk 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:48.400 about an o MG. Yeah, Brian Austin Green is having 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:53.320 another baby. Well he's not having it, but he was 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.520 having a player in it. I'm so excited for Sharna 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.840 and Brian. This is this is awesome and technically not 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.040 to bring it back to me and our connection, but 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:11.080 now we'll both have five kids. Five kids. I even 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.120 think of that. Not many people have five kids and 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.000 the two of you have five kids. It's kind of crazy. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.399 Did you what is it? Okay just admitted? How did 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.520 you feel when you heard I guess he has so 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:28.200 many kids that you're like, what's one more? Um? I 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:35.080 felt like, why didn't he tell me. Now I felt like, oh, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.600 she's so young and beautiful and wants to have a 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.560 family and that, you know, it's just a natural progression 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.480 in their relationship. I mean I haven't spent much time 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.279 with with him or him and her at all, really, 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:55.120 so I don't know them well. Interestingly, we never even 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.120 we're in the same room with him and Megan and 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.120 they were together for fift years, Like right, no, no, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.640 never have you ever met Megan like separately randomly. I 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.560 worked with Megan on a series a long time ago 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.480 before they be together. Before bag yep, I met her. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.960 I met her at some wedding. I don't I think 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.840 it might have been one's wedding. You did at I's 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:27.320 wedding to Aaron, Okay, yeah, right, but it was very brief. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:34.079 Was Brian at the wedding, Yeah, with her there? Tor 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.560 wasn't there. I was not at the wedding. No, So 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.200 you're right, you have been with Megan and Brian together. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.239 So see, I I only have one perspective, was hearing, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.000 you know, Brian's timeline of it, and in his I 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.720 never saw them together, and he always said like, oh, 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.360 you know, you guys, you're gonna spend so much time together. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.600 When we did the reboot, he was like, you know, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.839 I was like, I can't believe I've never like hung 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.480 out with Megan. He was like, you will, but now 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.600 we gotta be like, hey, we gotta hang out with Sharna. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.080 Shara's super cool. I've met her. I've heard that from everybody. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.640 She's awesome. She is really awesome. Should should I admit 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.360 in our group text? I'm going to just admit it 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.639 because I don't. At first, so basically, we knew someone 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.360 was having a baby, but we didn't know who. So 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.040 in our group has you guys? I got like a 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:27.040 little like sad you should when I thought it was 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.320 I am, oh, because you didn't know who it was. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.320 You thought you knew somebody was pregnant, but you didn't. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.120 I yes, because we're all going in the text. And 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.000 then did you guys see my text when it was Brian? 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.320 I was like, Oh, I'm weirdly relieved, Like I don't. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:49.240 You're hilarious. You're just a little too close, a little 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:56.560 so takeaway here. There's still a chance, sugarman, there's still 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.160 a chance. I got no no babies. I'm telling you. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.480 I think fans sometimes might feel that way if they're like, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.040 oh wait, like this is so bad to say. This 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.960 is I did not admit this, but like, do you 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.600 ever have a crush on someone that you're like a 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:22.200 little happy when they're divorced? Oh god, I can I 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:27.640 can't think, Like like when Brad and Angelina splitted up, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.600 I was like, Oh, maybe there's a shot for me 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:37.200 in this life. I'm not really. Oh man, look god, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.760 I'm so sorry. I apologize. I'm so sorry. While we're 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.400 talking about Brian, we should also acknowledge the fact that 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.000 last week we said that he David lost his virginity 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.240 on the show to Nikki, but that was not right. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.400 Two weeks ago, I think it was two weeks ago 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:58.280 we left it up. So basically I was holding some grudge. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.320 I was holding a little gru towards her. And it 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:07.040 wasn't Nicky. It wasn't even her, not Ariel apparently. Well 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.159 we haven't seen that episode. I'm looking forward to that, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.400 But everybody, it wasn't Nikki. She didn't do it. I 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.120 had a weird like moment when you guys were saying it, 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.840 because I was like, something's an't right, Like they're wrong, 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.000 but I don't want to correct them. How did I 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.760 mess that up? Because I am telling you guys in person, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.560 I was super threatened if data barren, like there was 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.320 something and I think, here's the thing I just remember. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.880 And she kind of confirmed this. She was very like 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.599 into rehearsing and like she and Brian was young, like sure, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.560 I'll rehearse, hot young girl. And I was just I 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.040 was like, wait, why is she want to rehearse? Nobody 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.719 rehearses on the set. I was like, oh, she must 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.320 like him. So I was really threatened. It was all 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.680 in my mind, and she was it was just for 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.839 the art, I know, for her craft. So Tori, I 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.920 know we're jumping ahead, but Ariel was played by and 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.279 she's kind of famous Carrie were is that how you 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.880 say it? You? H r E And she's very very spicy, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:12.080 she's hot. Did you have any angst when she was there? Uh? Yeah, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.440 I felt this with Dana and now I'm like getting 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:20.840 upset all over again. Yes, she was really and she 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:25.520 was like Dana. I remember, like now that I'm looking 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.440 back as an adult, like she was really nice. They're 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.359 doing her job and going through protocol, like I'm rehearsing. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.440 I'm an actress is what I do in hindsight. But 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:40.400 Cary was like, just like are hot, like smoking hot 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.360 and really cool and nice? But like knew it, you know, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:49.279 like she just mused sex. She still does, so that 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.400 was that's a whole different thing. So when we get 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.680 to that, it's gonna We're gonna. Yeah, yeah, we have 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.520 to get her on the show. Yes. Also, Jenny BETSTI 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.680 use of the of the word ever, I always like 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.400 to throw that in there. Never appropriate. Okay, so should 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.440 we jump into this episode? Let's do it. Season three, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:16.880 episode six, Castles in the Sand, aired on August. Synopsis. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.760 Summer is coming to an end when Donna and Brenda 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.320 return from Paris. Brenda's intuition is very telling in her 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.119 relationship with Dylan, and speaking of Dylan, Kelly pretends nothing 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.960 happened between these two. Brooke and Brandon yep, Brooks still here, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.960 Brandon's political differences lead to their breakup, and David finally 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:41.200 gets his first music gig. Okay, I'm excited that Brooke 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.680 and Brandon are breaking up now, Thank god. How many 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.480 episodes she was here for? Twenty episodes, like three years, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.480 three or four? Is this? It is? She gone now? 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.480 Because he broke up and that we never see her again. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:08:02.880 Nope by hopefully Okay, Brooke's simpiter Brooks terrible. Why it's 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.400 so interesting they would write her that way, Like maybe 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.520 they just like, we gotta get her out of here. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.720 We got to get her out and have everyone dislike her. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:19.240 That's one way she was going after black people, Jewish people. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.760 What else? It was very extreme too, was like what 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.320 is happening? And it's three episodes for the side of 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.440 her to come out? Right, That's why I'm like, maybe 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.400 they just felt like this is typical, you're all out 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.960 of here, so they laced it in with the with 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:42.439 the she didn't like the transience and then right, I 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.319 just literally all my notes are just iroll, iroll Brook, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.880 I roll bye Brook, Bye bye bye bye, and stop 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.840 hanging on him. I don't understand this. Was she always 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:59.600 hanging on him and they're always kissing. I feel like 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.040 she was hitting on him in real life. Is that 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.199 a weird feeling to feel that? Because I don't know, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.240 and we and we both we talked about how he 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:15.360 kissed her as Jason not Brandon. That was the only 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.120 parts redeeming about their storyline was how great. The kisses 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:24.000 were I don't know, I feel like she was hot 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:28.400 for him. I can't remember this episode out with you know, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.600 Bye Bye Perry. That's no more, no more Universal Studios 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.800 per Paris with the I can't wait to see Rick. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:43.800 I was, come on, I mean, Dylan, and then seeing 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.400 you on the plane, I don't know, just seeing you 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.600 comm sitting in that seat on an airplane, I was like, what, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:55.040 there's something wrong with this? This is not but she 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:00.079 was right. Yeah. Because of my fear, I have to 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.120 a lot of people are like, why do you want 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.000 to look out the window? But I do, like I 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.520 feel safest, So I'm always like, Dohne, please, please can 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.240 I sit in the window and you have to look 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.400 out the window because I feel some way when you're 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:12.840 in the middle and you can't see it out, You're 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.600 like you're like a cage damible. You're like, like its 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.520 your panic more. Yeah. Yeah, so you had the window 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.240 seat like Brenda technically would have been like I want 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:31.360 the window. Her personality so interesting that Dean Kine just 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.640 had that brief moment. But I feel like, you guys 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.680 tell me they did that because they're keeping him around 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.880 for more. Yeah, did they pay him a full like 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:47.800 episode salary for that one because he was the top name. Yeah, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.240 and he looks so cool when he just like picked 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:54.200 her up like she was a feather, like she wasn't 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.720 a real thing, just like a little dolly. Like he's 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:03.880 so strong. Yes, pray Superman. So it had to jump scares. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.880 Do you guys know how jump scares? It's like in 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.800 a horror movie when you're like, I had to, I wrote, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.319 So one was when you guys are on the plane, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.840 and she says so. First in her dumb dream, she's 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:20.520 like calls Rick Dylon, but then when she's awake, she says, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.439 I can't wait to see Rick. So that was like 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:27.120 I went, then, how did you go? Would you? How 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:33.079 did you do it? Then on the beach, Kelly and 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.920 Dylan are in the sleeping bags, which I was loving, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.280 and holy hell, Andrea out of nowhere, and I was 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.439 like this, Oh my god, I was not expecting. Right, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.800 She's dressed for the day and has the kids out 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.680 looking for crabs already speaking of crabs, who sleeps on 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:57.000 the beach like literally care Yeah, and you see the 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.480 crabs on the beach. Yeah, they come out, and especially 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:05.400 the little jumping flies at night, like, um, but what up, Kevin? 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:11.400 I'm just gonna call you Kevin from now on. Kevin. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.520 It was I just totally made up. You just made 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.760 that up. I think that was a great scene because 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.000 even though I've seen this episode. I've seen this episode 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.520 at least a couple of times, I still didn't remember 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.720 that Andrea just right there, and so I was I 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.520 literally wrote on my notes that even shocked me, like 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.320 because I was like, oh, oh, yeah, I didn't see 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:36.080 that coming either, and I wasn't there. Did you guys notice, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.120 like did you think of the voices sounded weird? Like 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.520 they were weirdly dubbed? Like I felt like those were 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.240 um like a d R like we did. Didn't the 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.480 voices sound weird to you now that you bring it up, 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.760 but you know you you notice that more than we do. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.720 It pulled me out so hard. I was like, wait, 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.360 why are their voices sound so weird and kind of 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.760 not exactly sinking up to their lips and definitely not 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.880 like I didn't feel like the performance in the voice 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.560 was the same as in what would have been the 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.120 moment that you know, the energy of the moment, Like 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:14.720 I felt like it was removed somehow. That makes me 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.280 ask you guys a question because when Jenny just said 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.480 that pulled me out so hard, and you've mentioned that before. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.800 For me, rarely do I get pulled out of the 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.000 episode because I'm so like in it. But because you 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.240 guys are looking at it so differently, does that happen 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.440 a lot like toward does that happen to you? Like 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.240 does that happen to you guys? Where like you're remembering 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.400 something or you're performing it in a certain way and 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.079 you're like, oh, I wish I had made a different 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.120 choice where you get out of it. Where I'm just like, 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:47.440 look line and sinker. This thing's happening. Not as much 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.360 as Jen like she see like she's great at like 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.080 picking apart like the continuity in the boom like everything 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.200 like for its memories. Yeah, I'll be like, oh, it 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.400 takes me back to that moment, like I remember that day. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.640 Oh my god, I totally forgot about that. But for 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.200 the most part, I'm truly really watching it as a 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.760 fan and I and I don't know why my brain 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.920 is doing this because usually my brain likes to interject 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.840 and be like you're terrible, like that was horrible and 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.520 but I'm not. I'm like just watching like Donnan enjoying her. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:22.760 That's so good. I like hearing that. I'm like fifty, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.880 I'm watching it, and it's it's a bonus for me 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.360 that I don't remember it at all because and I 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.080 am watching it like I'm not in it, like I've 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.920 never I've never been there before. Uh so, But yeah, 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.600 I do get pulled out by like the little technicality sometimes, 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.520 which happens to me in all shows, in all movies, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.960 and it's pretty annoying. But the thing is about your 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.840 memory is you might not remember things, but once you 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.400 watch it, you'll totally remember, even more than me, Like 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.800 you'll be like, oh my god, that day this was happening. Sometimes, Yeah, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:12.480 I'm safely. So I have another question on that same topic. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.800 If you are watching it now and you guys are 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.200 so much younger, do you think it's easier to watch 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.400 yourselves now that it would have been like if you 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.040 watched it maybe a year after, because you know, when 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:33.720 you're less critical of your look, maybe for sure thousand percent, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.040 Like even ten years ago, I would look at and 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.880 be like and now I'm just like CUTI but tuti 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.720 I know, such a deep appreciation for whoever that is 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:51.160 on that show. That girl. Yeah, those girls are adorable 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.280 and magical. I don't think I know you guys have 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.480 talked about this because it's season three and everyone's sort 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.440 of hitting their moment. You guys all look good. I 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:04.880 do think everyone looks at their best right now. Yeah, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.160 give us a couple of seasons. Chick starts to get 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:15.400 crazy with the haircuts and the colors and the eyebrows. Yeah, 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.800 we peaks here, I think so, So should we get 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.080 into the meat, because I really really really want to 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.520 know from both of you. Okay, if you were writing 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.560 it or living it, what would you have done? Should 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:34.400 Kelly tell Brenda what happened? What would you all have 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.920 done as Jenny and Tory in that same situation? And 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.720 is there something you wish the writers would have had 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.400 Kelly do? I don't know. I just was watching it 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.520 feeling like so uncomfortable all the time, and like I 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.840 feel icky, like she's lying to her and she's being 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.960 like isolating herself, like and she's says like to Brenda, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.840 oh yeah, I can keep a secret. Like it's just 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.200 so uncomfortable. Do you feel like you cut her? A 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.679 break though, because of her age, she's a teen girl 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.280 doing the best. She probably doesn't know how to how 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.560 to handle it the right way, so she's just trying 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.800 to go with the way it was when Brenda left. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.879 I don't think there's a world where she would have 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.760 just been like, Hi, Brenda, welcome back. By the way, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.280 while you were gone, I cheated with Dylan, okay, Like 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.359 that would have to be such an evolved teenager, Like 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:34.400 I don't even think girls nowadays, like as evolved as 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.240 they are, would be able to handle all of that. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.840 That's a lot and would would he have been on 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.840 the same page because in this episode, I was like, Dylan, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.879 you are he It bothered me. No, it bothered me 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.960 so much the way he was like all just pretending 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:54.760 like it didn't happen. And the only time that you 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.360 could see that he was torn or conflicted with it 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.240 was when he was, you know, gazing at like off 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.720 in the corner, soul king like it just did not 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.840 feel good at all. So I looked at it a 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.040 little differently and that I see what you're saying. But 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.439 I also think that Dylan, okay, So I asked myself, like, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.960 why isn't Dylan discussing with Kelly breaking up with Brenda. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.760 But he has that line and I'm trying to find 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.199 the exact line where he says, I'm doing it because 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.600 this is what you asked me to do, essentially. So 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.400 I do feel like he sort of said to Kelly, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.280 I'm not addressing this or doing it because you sort 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.320 of told me not to. You told me you don't 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.000 want to be with me. So in that opening beach scene, 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.240 if things had gone differently, do you think he would 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.360 have maybe been open to the possibility of like, Hey, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.199 I'm just gonna be up brend and tell Brenda. Because 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.679 he's still being Dylan, like even in that scene, like 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.560 he's over it, like he's moved on completely. He's not 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:56.240 conflicted at all. That's the way it bothered me. Even 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.040 though I'm like totally team Kelly. I just felt like 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.879 he had a real meaningful relationship with Brenda. He was 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.000 in love with her, and like, how does it just go? 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.320 I know, we have the whole thing, like they played 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.520 house for like a moment and it was like really 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.960 screwed things up. But how do you just fought a 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.000 love with someone that fast? I don't know. I think 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.359 that this this love triangle. While I'm watching it, it 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.280 was I'm seeing, like this is what has gotten me 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.359 so screwed up with like men and trusting men, and 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.080 like this was because I was young when we were 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:36.840 filming this, and those were very like formative years and 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:42.280 especially like in relationships, like speaking about relationships like this 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:46.400 was hard for me to work through as an adult, 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.920 even like in therapy, like just because it just sent 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.679 me Jenny, like the person inside that was playing these scenes, 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:59.000 all these messages of like, you know, it's never what 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.600 it seems and people will always lie, and so I 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.920 stand that. I wrote down so you know, Dylan shows 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.680 up over at the party, which that was like amazingly 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:17.600 awesomely awkward the whole situation there, And I even wrote 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:23.560 does he love Brenda? Because it's like I'm confused. It 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:28.560 was like who does he love? He was so convincing 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.239 and cute with Brenda, but I was so certain that 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.640 he really wants to be with Kelly. He does, he's 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.880 like over Brenda, but like he never explained why he's 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.600 over Brenda. I mean, I understand he met someone else 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.760 and it was a whirlwind and he's like whoa this 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.399 this is my soul mate, But like, where's that person? 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.440 Like this girl fell in love with you, she lost 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:55.600 her virginity to you. This was like a huge milestone relationship, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.399 like what did you like about her? What you what 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.440 did you love about her? Like we'll never know. Yeah, 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.720 And I just I felt like if I could have 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.880 been the writer, I would have wanted Kelly to be 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.399 a lot stronger in like that was her decision, like 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.800 you said, Dylan said, you know you wanted this. This 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.639 is what I'm trying to do, what you said we 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.280 should do. But I felt like she wasn't even like 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.280 she didn't show conviction. So I felt like she was 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:30.400 so strong. I don't know. I just felt like I guess, 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.879 I guess, just feel her feelings, and it felt she 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.760 was so it was just so acting for her, like 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.800 she was so hurt. I mean because me watching like 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.879 having Kelly watched Brenda and Dylan like canoodling and playing 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.800 in the sand, it was like heartbreaking for it was 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.639 the whole thing was painful. And then the line that 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:55.840 I found was I think you say she she I 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.440 can't remember exactly, but remember she comes to you and says, 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.280 like he's being too nice to me, I think there 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.800 was someone else. So then you have that conversation with 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.800 Dylan and he says you because you you said I 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.560 knew it, and he says something like you didn't predict it, 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.880 you made it happen. And I took that. I think 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.760 that's the right line. I hope I'm not screwing this up, 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.240 but that's where I took it. Like it's almost like 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:20.320 she's manifesting this by not letting Dylan break up with Brenda, 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.359 by saying no, no, no, that she's manifesting her own 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.200 not getting to be with him. Am I making sense? 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.520 Let's conte for him to say put that on her? Yeah, 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:36.760 but this is what you wanted. Yeah. I was astounded 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.800 by how complicated this is. Like again, I know I've 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.960 said it before, but like, these are college kids. To me, 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.560 this is such complicated relationship stuff that I'm like, I 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.320 was in college when I was watching it. So I 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.919 think that's why I related. I was not dealing with 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:55.800 this in high school. These are not kids. Yeah, there's 0:22:55.800 --> 0:23:00.200 no goofiness about them. There's no like, I'm sure when 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.200 we see them playing like tug of war and playing 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.280 games with each other and like having those moments of 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:09.760 like fun and carefree teenage stuff because it's everything else 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.760 is so heavy and like there's so much emotional weight 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.239 to everything, Like I like those moments that breaks it up. 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.200 You know what I did missing was when I miss 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.960 seeing when David and Donna reunited after you being gone, 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.119 like you, we didn't get to see that moment. I 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.320 wonder if we shot that and then didn't make it 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.480 into the cut. That seems odd not adorable. Kiss on 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.760 your head though I thought the way they are every 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.640 girl wants to be kissed on her head, but they're 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:45.639 much more team but going yeah, true, yeah we do 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.960 have that. But going back to Jen's point of how 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.320 this shaped like her outlook on life and relationships, like 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.960 keep in mind, like once we started doing this show, 0:23:55.080 --> 0:24:01.440 our youth really was over, so like this is all 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.399 we knew. So I agree with you, Jen, Like it 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.800 got super confusing and all of a sudden, like we're 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:11.800 talking differently than you know. I mean, I know you 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.360 were acting out of high school before me, but like 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.520 right before that, I was right in high school dealing 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.200 with this stuff and it wasn't dealt with like this, 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.280 And all of a sudden, like you're just like an adult. 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.600 And it's like, okay, so yeah, Jenny and Tory, like 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:30.240 we quickly had to grow up to adjust to playing 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:36.840 these characters because this is our lives now. Wow, so 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.600 we missed. We missed like that chunk of youth. It 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.520 was just like, okay, bye. I mean I'm seeing like 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.760